/vr/ - Retro Games

How do you guys think this looks?

wahoo!

>get a crt
>still depressed
Wtf bros

>>5219398
Is this a VGA monitor

>>5219358
A little out of focus, but not bad. What kind of tv/connection you using?

>>5219398
yeah

Anyone have any pictures of the board in a PVM that holds all the front switches like the menu and up and down arrows? I might need to order a replacement and pictures would help greatly.

>>5219529

>>5219582
That's going to vary by set.

What monitor are you working on?

>>5219582
Which model PVM?

>>5219607
>>5219613
PVM-14M2U. I think it was either the F or E board.

>>5219617
Are you replacing the board as a whole or components thereon?

>>5219629
What I assume to be the micro switches behind the face buttons on the front. Just need to know what type.

>>5219632
I don't have that model so best I can suggest is looking up the part numbers listed in the service manual.

>>5219617
H-Board

Manual shows it uses "1-570-101-41" for some and "1-570-969-11" for others.
41 is used for most of the buttons, 11 is used specifically for Up, Down, Menu, and Select.

No idea if either of these actually have said parts, but the only real hits I'm finding.

https://www.ued.net/ued/viewItemAction.do?itemCode=SNY157010141
https://www.pc21.fr/fiche/157096911-switch-key-board-i2241338.html

I'd try to take apart my 14M2MDU to get an idea of what they look like, but not only is that not terribly easy to do, but the manuals also report them as being entirely different parts.

>>5219716
Ah that's it. Really I don't need Sony brand parts just something that might be a suitable replacement. I imagine they're right angle micro switches.

Hell I might just need to get in there and spray those switches down with some cleaner.

>>5219497
The tv is from RCA's Entertainment Series. And this was with s-video.

>>5219723
A little soak in deoxit can go a long way.

They just don't trigger all the time, or?

>>5219723
alcohol solves many problems

I spent $100 buying and shipping a CRT because I live in the middle of nowhere, I never see them sitting on curbs, local thrift stores don't have any, and the closest cragslist listings are 300+ miles away.
Really like the look of this set. Here's hoping it arrives safely.

>>5219995
100 bucks? Ouch. Oh well, you will enjoy playing old games the way they were meant to be played, though.

/see crts all the time here in spring and summer

>>5219358
Nice shadow mask

>>5219995
Sexy af aesthetic. Does it have composite? If not refer to my post here >>5191683 on improving rf image quality.

Should I look for a unit with at least s-video or would I not be missing out on much with just rf and composite?

>>5219398
It looks like an emulator with filters.

>>5220128
Having recently made the jump from composite to s-video and component I can personally tell you that you'll be missing on a lot.

That being said I can play NES and SNES games just fine using composite.

>>5219995
A bit pricey but it's sexy asf so it's worth it.
I hope it reaches you well anon.

>>5219998
Yeah I'm not thrilled about spending that much but it's a deal as far as eBay CRT prices on Trinitrons go. Hopefully I end up with a good TV out of it.
>>5220048
It has composite, but thanks. I doubt i'll ever use RF for anything but it'll be good to keep that info in mind.

>>5220165
its 240p with no filters, albeit emulated

this is a 480p screenshot with a filter on

>find craigslist ad of local dude selling a bunch of old A/V and computer equipment.
>I don't particularly need anything, but he may have some hidden gems
>says it's a big lot he wants to sell at once, but there are some things that he would let go separately
>send an email asking what he has that he's willing to let go separately
>"No, we want to sell the whole lot."
>ooookay... want to get a better idea of how much stuff, so ask him for ballpark estimate for whole lot
>"Well, it's an ongoing sale of dead inventory and it's always changing, so I'd hate to give a price that ends up inaccurate because some things might be sold off"
>what the fuck, so which is it, are you selling separately or as a lot? Ask for location so I can come see what he has, which might be a total waste of my time because he expects me to buy it all and he might be talking about a literal fucking warehouse of broken shit
>"There is a fair amount of stuff"
>doesn't tell me where it actually is
What the fuck dude. I'm trying to do you a favor by paying you money for your garbage, and you're making it impossible. Craigslist was a mistake.

>>5220186
And this is 240p with no filter on

>>5220228
that's nice anon

Is $150 for a 14 inch PVM a rip off?

>>5220261
Can it take component and rgb?

>>5220265
No, composite and svideo.

>>5220261
Pricey but not a ripoff exactly. If you're dealing with online sellers that's about what you'll find them for if they only do composite and S-video. It's the going rate, if it's worth that to you then go for it. Otherwise just find a good consumer set.

>>5220273
Then yes, it's a rip-off.

Courtesy of whoever previously owned my copy of Chrono Trigger.

What you think of this found on side of road.

What's the best way to stream with a CRT capture card? What sort of equipment would you recommend? I have a consumer CRT capable of s-video.

>>5220437
>magnetbox
I think it’s back pain.

>>5220472
Was free. I got decent tiny 13 inch TV forgot brand

>>5220437
looks dirty and nothing special but I would have grabbed it.

>>5220516
>0
Yeah pretty much clean it up and see from there. 0 out of my pocket.

Someone near me is giving away a VCR as junk. It apparently still turns on but doesnt read tapes. Do you think it's still good to convert RF to composite? I guess it's free might as well find out

Shadow Mask

Got an N64 today, but because I live in Hungary it's really hard to come across decent CRT TVs since most sellers just say "Samsung CRT TV for sale", etc. Am I good to just get one of those?
I mean it would still be better than my 4K TV, right?

>>5220647
N64 is a tricky console because it can look pretty great on new sets if you opt for something like UltraHDMI, but by and large any CRT is going to do your N64 more favors than any HD set will, if you just plan on using composite

>>5220585
What set and what input are you using?

>>5220647
The best quality you can get out of an unmodded N64 is s-video. I don't know if you have SCART there, but if you do the TVs with two SCART ports should have s-video input on the second port. Though honestly composite is fine for the N64 if you don't mind the dot crawl.

Japanese setup circa 2006:

https://youtu.be/V25aEBZnYzs?t=161

>>5220846
My (now dead) LG Diamondtron running emu at 240p

>>5221007
Neat. So VGA I assume?

>>5221014
yes

>>5220439
distribution amp / switcher with two S-video outs, an S-video capture device that's known to work alright with 240p if you intend to use real consoles.

>>5219780
Pretty much. It takes a nice solid push right on the middle to get the switch to register. At least some of them.

>>5219789
Thinking more of electrical contact cleaner

CRTs are going to be more hipsterish than collecting records or drinking craft beer, but only for nerds.

Just wait for the young sheldon episode glorifying CRTs before this kicks into overdrive and scalpers start trying to profit from half broken composite/RF only sets

What's the general opinion here about using linedoublers or even something like the OSSC to play retro games on a PC CRT monitor?
I'm thinking of doing this since all of my 15khz compatible CRT have one problem or another such as no picture controls at all, a model particularly known for going up in flames suddenly, extremely worn out tube etc.

>>5222391
>scalpers start trying to profit from half broken composite/RF only sets
That's already happening though anon, check eBay.
We're not into $1000+ PVMeme status yet but I've seen one or two vintage RF only Trinitrons going for a couple of hundred.

Got a CRT recently but the image is quite blurred in normal use, and was wondering if there was some way to fix it? It blurs when actually displaying something, the image tightens up when the screen is going black, so I'm assuming it's some sort of vibration.

Are CRTs going to eventually become stupid expensive like old cars due to their inevitable rarity?
Or will some nerdy enthusiasts step up to the plate to help repair/manufacture more?

>>5222520
They will become stupid expensive unless you learn to repair them yourself.

>>5222520
>Are CRTs going to eventually become stupid expensive like old cars due to their inevitable rarity?
Hard to say really. I think the current market is fair. They've definitely risen in price substantially the past few years and that's only going to get higher even if just down to inflation alone, but it might be a while before we see another meteoric rise on consumer sets in the same way we did with PVMs.

>>5222520
bought my BVM-14F5U for 60 bucks in 2014 on ebay. theres one with a busted screen listed for 230. prices are going to go up.

>>5222391
>Just wait for the young sheldon episode glorifying CRTs
No. NO. What's frightening is how possible this is, like when they mentioned the indie comic book "Saga" on Big Bang Theory, and then suddenly, graded copies of issue 1 were going for $400+. And I was pissed because I would have sold mine then if I had known that happened, because the book went to utter shit.

>>5222520
honestly no. There's so many consumer sets out there that are high quality in the free-$20. at some point it will just be a novelty to have one. Believe me, the crt snobs on /vr/ are a minority within even the retro gaming scene. much less broader gaming.

arcade monitors have been much more sought after for many more years than consumer televisions and they cap out at about $300 for good condition and $500 if you can find a "new" one.

maybe a really desirable television would go for a few hundred in 10-15 years.

You guys just wait until the speculators get in on the CRT market. Todays prices will look pretty fair in comparison.
I've been doing my part to tip them off.

>>5223136
>I've been doing my part to tip them off.
It wouldn't matter if you weren't, eventually gonna happen anyway. Once boomer nostalgia kicks in full fucking force for all the 90s kids (I imagine most 80s boomers already have their CRTs), and once the demand is there, small businesses and general suppliers of goods are going to get wise, and it's only a snowball effect from there.
Did you know you can buy new vinyl records in major department stores these days? Give it 20 years and you might be able to buy freshly manufactured CRTs. Stranger shit has happened.

>>5223136
they're too heavy to ship. Like i said, arcade monitors are sought after and the boards can be shipped separate from the tubes and most new boards are $100-ish dollars. why there isn't more arcade crt discussion in these threads is beyond me. You can hook consoles up to them fine and there's wayy more resources on how to maintain and troubleshoot them than consumer sets.

If you really want to speculate, start grabbing late model <13" sets. Curved tube is better, rgb moddable even better. Something that can small can be shipped for ebay RETRO L@@K prices.

What side is hot/neutral? I'm confused because the fuse and stripe aren't on the same side.

>>5223154
ACN = neutral, fuse = live, someone may have put the cable in backwards, or the stripe might not be on the side you expect, check continuity to the plug.

>>5223206
Thats what i was thinking, i just wanted someone else to look at it so i didn't mess things up.

Got an N64 this week but I'm an Europoor so getting high grade CRTs and PVMs it probably impossible as most sellers just advertise their TVs as "Samsung CRT", "Sony CRT", etc.
Am I okay with getting one of those CRTs?

>>5223258
Sony is great, Toshiba is very good

>>5223269
I can only find Samsung, Thomson and LG right now on the used market :/

>>5223273
I have no real experience with those but Samsung sets seem OK from what I have seen. I can say if I were you I would keep looking for a Sony Trinitron, any later Toshiba model, any later Magnavox model, and to avoid Panasonic or Sanyo sets. Personally I've had nothing but issues out of those. Avoid flat screen CRTs. They usually have geometry problems or digital processing, neither of which you want.

>>5223258
With an N64, the lower grade the tv the better. This is not a joke, it will look like shit on a pvm.

>>5223405
Even if I want to get a PS2, Xbox and a SNES in the future?

>>5223258
>N64
It'll be shit no matter what you get thanks to Nintendo putting AA on a 240p signal.

>>5223423
Yeah, seen a video on it today and holy shit it's blurry.

>>5223421
The PS2 and Xbox through component will be fine on a modern TV. Xbox more so than PS2. SNES is begging for quality CRT.

>>5222391
Scalpers are already charging hundreds for shitty sets tho.

>>5223467
I think 5th and 6th gen systems benefit from CRTs the most actually. Anything below generally looks fine when perfectly sharp but the 3D games of the time look better with the blending that CRTs do. Makes it not so obviously aliased.

>>5223302
did jvc stop existing?

>>5223567
CRTs do not do any "blending".

>>5223656
a crt with a lower pitch and composite will

>>5223629
Nah just forgot about them. I know they're supposed to be great CRTs but I've literally never seen a JVC set in person.

How would you go about hooking these up to a 31khz capable pro monitor from a laptop running Windows 7?

>>5223837
What monitor?

>>5223837
if you mean a multiformat monitor and not a "pc monitor", you would want to transcode the signal into ypbpr most likely, that would be easiest

>>5223939
A 14L5 specifically.

>>5223963
Proper way would be one of the Extron RGB interface boxes, go VGA from PC into box, RGsB or RGBS out of box to monitor with DDSP and SERR switches turned on.

Note the standard VGA 640x480 is a bit too wide and short compared to video standard 480p, you'll likely need to set up custom resolutions.

>>5223258
I live in Germany and I see trinitron all the time on eBay. Some are even free!

Few days ago I saw one with scart composite and s-video for 20€.

Would have gotten it but it was a wide CRT.

Anyone know any good multi Scart port boxes?
My monitor is like 30 years old, I don't want to keep ripping out the SCART cable every time I want to switch between SEGA and Nintendo consoles

>>5224298
I live in Hungary and sadly people are brainlets when it comes to CRT

>>5224361
Good luck anyway, try asking around hospitals for old monitors that no-one needs, maybe you'll find something good.

We have a Sony KV-20S20 single input (composite) Trinitron in our basement. I found out you can mod televisions to install RGB.

I'm not that skilled but I'm also no stranger to a bit of soldering and I'm not (too) scared to discharge any residual charge from the tube myself. Do you all think a mid-late-nineties trinny is a common enough set that I could find a guide to hold my hand through the modding process?

>>5223421
I can't believe I have to say this, but no, if you want to uses component stuff get a good screen and use it with component. You'll see just how garbage N64 looks, but it can be charming in it's own way.

>>5224298
Wide CRT is pretty amazing for non retro or watching widescreen movies or anime on. If you have room it might be worth picking up.

>>5224632
>Do you all think a mid-late-nineties trinny is a common enough set that I could find a guide to hold my hand through the modding process?

Go look through the shmup forum and see, someone has probably already modded the model you have.

>>5224679
>If you have room
That's my main issue desu, I barely have enough room as it is.

For now my 20 inch PVM is big enough and serves my purposes, I still need to get a component switch box for it.

Thoughts on Commodore 64 monitors for /vr/ if I don't really need anything more than composite? I've heard these look great and aesthetically they're A+.

>>5224772
they're not much better than similar era/size TVs when using composite, big advantage is they have S-video (or as Commodore called it LCA) in the form of two RCAs.

>>5224784
>(or as Commodore called it LCA) in the form of two RCAs.
Can anything of note utilize it without having to resort to making your own cables?

>>5224954
2RCA to 4pin Mini-Din adapters aren't terribly difficult to get a hold of, and lets you use literally anything with a standard S-Video connector.

>>5224954
there used to be an online store or two who had it, but they're all gone I think. Custom cable it is -- it's not so hard

>>5224772
Commodore monitors are fantastic on LCA, and quite a few of them support RGB too.

Here's an Amiga 2000 running on RGB to a Commodore 1084.

>>5224969
Thanks

>>5224970
https://www.amazon.com/CGTime-S-Video-Splitter-Extension-Adapter/dp/B07K76DC61/

>>5225750
Close but no cigar, both ends are male. S-video end of cable should be female.

>>5225835
Bigot

How do I clean a filthy tube without damaging the antiglare coat like a retard, which I definitely haven't done before?

>>5225924
Spit.

>>5224349
Bandridge. Been using 2 for years and they work perfectly with no quality loss.

Anybody knows how to access service menu on one of these? Model is Trinitron kv19-XMB from early 90s, technically PAL region but accepts NTSC input, basically saved it from being smashed by niggers in the street, it was dirty and cord was cut, turns out it works perfectly and the insides are clean. Picture quality is great but using RGB SCART input picture is offset to the left and it's been killing me.

Postin some pics from this kino game on Saturn
Tv is Trinitron 2030 with scart hookup

>>5226019

>>5225850

>>5226023
Those clean scanlines make me happy

>>5226027
Good god no, memories coming back. I hated that game.

>>5226027

>>5226042
Of all the nice game on SAT you pick THIS ONE to show off your CRT, why???

>>5226057
I liked the irony

>>5226065
You sick fuck :'D

>>5226024
Exquisite taste, anon.

Picked up a Dell Ultrascan P1110 for free a while back because the screen bezel was cracked. took it apart and adjusted focus and convergence as best I could, but it's hard to get it perfect across the whole screen; it's a little worn out and was obviously abused, but it's only really apparent when you're looking at black text on a white background. I mostly just use it for watching stuff while I'm on my PC, and it looks great for that.

>>5226285
Been a while since I used a CRT for anything other than console gaming. I forgot just how much more forgiving they are to lower-quality video rips. Most of my stuff is 4:3, too, so that's works out.

Hello there!
Does anyone here have any experience hunting for CRTs in Japan? I'm kind of lost on how to start, but I think I'll have better luck than I do in the US.

Is there an easy fix for image being off center to the left when scart RGB? I paid so much money for that N64 RGB mod and now I can barely play Mario 64

>>5226348
There might be a potentiometer for it on the inside.

>>5226074
Thanks

>>5226326
I've seen a few pro monitors on Yahoo Auctions.

>>5226561
very cool picture

>>5226348
Yo dawg, how much did you pay? You can get them premodded for $150... on the high end.

Most likely they used a different version of sync than expected. Did you try hooking the 64 to different devices? Did you try another scart or even an hdretrovision cable? My bet is still them using the wrong sync. I remember a big issue with people completely cutting the composite lead out as it was interfering with some PVM/PCCRT

Also what RGB mod? The TWRGB mod is far better than the basic THS7316 mod.

>>5225835
https://www.amazon.com/S-Video-Adapter-Female-to/dp/B0002MQGJU/

>>5226561
What is this from?

>>5226884
Cotton 2 or Cotton Boomerang for the Saturn, if I had to guess.

>>5226303
>samurai pizza cats
My dude

>>5226023
>>5226027
>>5226042
The PS1 Initial D is a garbage game, the PS2 Japanese-only game was a masterpiece though.

>>5226675
Thanks Don

>>5226884
Cotton 2

>>5226935
Boomerang doesn't have the really cute and funny cutscenes, just stills featuring gags and loli nipples.

>>5227206
I just recognized the background and general palette choices from one of the Saturn games, couldn't remember which though.

I'm trying to use my Guncon 2 on PS2 through YPbPr to play the Gunbari Collection. I got the gun for almost free in a bundle years ago but neglected the splitter cable the seller had. Since I own a PVM that has outputs for the RGB/Component, I figure I can just hook up to the Y output and use it for the sync signal right? I don't have the game yet but I tested it out and it sucked the color out of the picture. I figure this has something to do with auto termination stopping since I plugged in one output but the not the rest, right? Do I need some 75 ohm terminators?

Or would it just be cheaper to get that little output extender with the composite line out?

>>5227441
>up to the Y output and use it for the sync signal right?
Yeah actually, whatever the output the sync is riding on will do the trick.
>since I plugged in one output but the not the rest, right?
yeah, the Y (green) cable contains no color information.
>Do I need some 75 ohm terminators?
Most likely not.
>Or would it just be cheaper to get that little output extender with the composite line out?
nah more expensive. the output for sync will work perfectly fine.

To be honest I prefer when scanlines are barely visible like on >20" crt with shadow mask.

>>5227482
Looks really visible even on a 15" shadowmask.

>>5227015
Unironically my favorite anime of all time.

>>5227484
I have rgb modded a cheap 19" crt and scanlines are only noticable on dimmed colors which I find great. Pic isn't the greatest quality but you get the idea.

>>5227917
thick scanlines are overrated, I prefer having grit and texture to my sprites, not chopping them up like window panes.

>>5227934
pleb

>>5227450
But its fucking up my picture. It sucks some color out and there's some waviness here and there. Would terminators be the route to fix?

>>5227934
Scanlines are not the black part.

>>5228343
pedantic fucker

is a raspberry pi good for a CRT? I don't have either but I want a new project

>>5228521
Should be fine if the emulators can be set to output 240p, don't know why they wouldn't. Wii is another option for CRT emulation.

>>5228521
I have one hooked to composite.
Works fine for me, just make sure you ge5 a proper shielded cable otherwise you'll have a lot of audio and video interference.

Is emulation on a flat crt monitor worth it? Tried with a curved one but it was too dark

>>5220195
I fucking hate this kind of people. It's like they don't want to sell their shit.

>>5227482
>>5227934
Grit an texture is a great way to describe it. I appreciate both, started chasing razor clean scanlines then messed around with an old 20” Mitsubishi and loved the gritty shadowmask. I have to sit fairly close to see the shadowmask pattern but imho it looks great for 8 - 16 bit.

If you guys had a choice ignoring price, would you HDMI mod or RGB mod a NES? Top loader or toaster?

The SNES jr is on my current work bench right now. Almost done with activating the RGB to compare to my 1chip. Just can't decide if I want to mod my top loader or toaster NES, and if I should even bother with HDMI when I have OSCC/XRGB3/XRGBmini and things like PVM/Monitors/CRTs and the like. I feel like someone here, of all places, has to have experience comparing a rgb NES to the hdmi modded one.

>>5228864
Play it over RF on a TV like this or don't bother

>>5228864
I use a wii dual modified wii to play nes and snes games. It looks good and it's a lot more versatile than a stock nes.

>>5228851
What game? Looks comfy.

>>5227917
that's just how it works. has more to do with TVL. Look at Rami's ears and see how the bright white ears have blooming, the blank line is still visible but much less so compared to neighboring colors. To me this is a defining aspect of CRT and does make me favor shadowmask over aperture grille. A lower TVL AG will still have visible blank lines but less blooming, even at smaller sizes (to an extent obviously.)

>>5228915
Real shit

>>5228956
>>5228915
This is why everyone things /vr/ is full of retards. Did you even read the persons question?

>>5229242
>This is why everyone "things" /vr/ is full of retards. Did you even read the persons question?
This is why everyone thinks /vr/ is full of retards. Did you even check your grammar before posting?

>>5228864
That's going to depend a lot more on how you'd prefer to use/play said console. HDMI has it's benefits in being able to go straight through to a display and some of the other built in enhancements, but you lose the ability to use it on any of your SD equipment. NESRGB may not have said enhancements, but doesn't really mess around with any timings and given you already have access to high quality scalers would still allow you to get a decent experience with both SD and HD displays.

For which console, that's gonna really be which ever you prefer. Aside from slightly differing installation requirements, the results you get should be entirely the same.

I personally don't really mess with upscaling and the like, so I'd likely go for the RGB mod. As for which console design, I've only ever had a front loader, but a top loader would likely look a tad nicer.

>>5229242
Those anons might b 'avin a giggle, or maybe they're being sincere. It's what keeps the chons interesting. I play snes over rf. Fite me.

>>5228969
Crue Ball for MD. The intro pixel art is the only comfy part of the game. It's not great.

>>5229242
>things
Imagine being this guy
Imagine taking 4channel seriously

>>5229256
That isn't grammar, you retard. Even more retarded that you can't extrapolate from a typo and still don't understand the question.

>>5229284
lol, no way snes goes down to RF. It can't possibly. No. *dabs* *flosses*

>>5229041
Oh I see, so that mean a higher quality tv has less bleeding between lines, right? I guess that interlaced content must look nice on these sets.

>>5228683
I mean, he's not, either. That fucking ad has been up for over 8 months. It's pretty clear he's just trying to get someone to pay him a small fortune to dispose of his electronic garbage for him, since the town dump would charge an arm and a leg, for sure.

Random blotches of color will appear on the left and right sides of my CRT at seemingly random intervals and for random durations. The left side is a blotch of white/yellow and right is purplish blue. I'll take pictures later. What does this sound like?

>>5229805
Interference maybe? Poor shielding?

>>5229805
Degaussing might fix that issue maybe.

>>5230112
Degaussing won't fix something intermittent.

Goddamn, these threads really do attract idiots who don't know shit.

>>5230147
Okay Mr cranky. Sorry someone shit in your cereal.

>>5228864
>If you guys had a choice ignoring price, would you HDMI mod or RGB mod a NES? Top loader or toaster?

Personally I RGB'ed mine because to me, CRT is essential to enjoying retro games. Figure out what display you will be playing it on and go for that.

I like the toploader since you don't have the 72 pin funkyness. That said, I also have a non modded front loader that I play on a composite only TV, so it really depends on what you want. If you want modern screen, go HDMI. If you want retro screen, I'd almost say, skip the mod and just use composite. It honestly looks fine on NES front loader.

If all you care about is playing games and having original hardware isn't important, and you are on modern screens, an AVS fits the bill nicely.

>>5228864
>If you guys had a choice ignoring price, would you HDMI mod or RGB mod a NES? Top loader or toaster?
Just play it on Composite like a normal person instead of sinking a $100 mod into a 30-year old console.

Alternatively, 60Hz mod a French NES for a pittance and enjoy your Nintendo official RGB. :^)

>>5229462
It does. Watching DVD old school anime on a PVM or BVM is utterly jaw dropping. I have the dragon box set and you can literally see the animation cells. At times it's like watching the cells move in stop motion rather than how you normally perceive a cartoon in motion. It really helped me appreciate the animation style of dragon ball z. It's a little "janky" yet it is so elegant how they pull off the effects with limited frames and budget. Don't get me wrong, it goes from jaw dropping to something that looks super low budget, but it's all amazing to witness. Hell, some scenes even put a red light under the cell to achieve the effect of glowing eyes. I never noticed this before and it's kind of a testament to the quality that was possible on crts.

>>5230147
>Degaussing won't fix something intermittent.

So since you're so good at calling out bullshit, what's wrong with anon's ( >>5229805 ) set?

>>5229805
What sort of set do you have, and where are the speakers located at on the set.

A random guess without any additional knowledge would be that the speakers are the set are likely not shielded and could be causing purity issues. The reason it may come and go is the magnets in them generating a slightly larger/stronger magnetic field depending on the audio that is being played. Said increased magnetism would be enough to throw off the landing of the beam close by.

Browsing through some local ads I found that someone is selling a Capcom impress candy cab for an insanely cheap price but it also says that the monitor won't work, I'm planning to take a look at it tomorrow, what should I look for and (if the tube is indeed busted) how much would I be looking to spend in a worst case scenario?

I'm considering getting this TV. It seems like it's a nice set in good condition from the pictures but it's about an hour away from where I live and it's 20 bucks. I also have a professional monitor that I got for free a while back but it's 14 inches while this one is 20. Should I get it?

>>5231059
yes, that's a very nice tv

I've been playing PS1 and SNES games on my ps3 through composite lately, thing is that the games look too dark, like dark colors are just black, there's no brown or grey.

Would component really make that much of a difference?

>>5231059
No just pinch your pennies and get an oled or nice plasma

>>5231208
What are you doing. PS3 doesn't do 240p. Just use a Wii and a ps2 or something

>>5231243
This

Good enough in my opinion.
It looks better irl though since my camera is absolute crap.

Thoughts on the KV-20FS100 ? Someone's Selling a locally for $20. according to the pictures it does Component in the back.

>>5231729
Looks good dude. The FS series are excellent, so any 4:3 FS CRT is going to be one of the best. Just expect some funkiness with geometry.

Where can one find a 25-pin to BNC adapter like the one in this pic?

>>5231819
Says it was made in 2003. Will I experience any lag? I've been told some of the later sets lag, but can't tell which ones do and don't. 03 was the tail end of crt right?

>>5231851
If it's standard definition, then it shouldn't lag

>>5231896
So Only CRTs with HDMI in lag then? Most of those are damn near 200lbs anyway, but I just thought I'd ask.

>>5231982
No. If it's HD at all, it will lag. I used to have an HD set that took component in at best. I got rid of it because older games didn't look better than it would on a modern TV and it lagged

>>5232063
How can you tell a CRT is "hd"? The trinitron I linked earlier for example only takes Component in at best, yet yours which has the same connectors & lags hd but that trinitron above isn't? Do I have to look for a certain model number on the back to differentiate them, or are they just marked with "HD" somewhere on the front?

>>5232068
I guess just ask them or you can test it yourself and see what happens if you feed it 480p.

I asked this a few threads ago, but I was incredibly vague and maybe with pictures I can expand on what I meant.
My audio, even when turned down very low on the slider, is BLARING loud. I have my GameCube hooked up with my Gameboy Player and was trying to play Golden Sun but the audio is so obnoxiously loud that I'm not even going to bother. It's somewhat quieter when I play my SNES for example, but not by much; still bothersome. I thought it was could be my SCART switcher (for some reason) but I've tried two different ones now and can confirm that's not the issue.

It could probably be several different issues causing this, the speakers, my hookups, the TV, or maybe even just retro consoles in general doing this but I don't know, I'd really like to fix this because I am kinda getting annoyed at this point. It seems like the sounds should be quieter and it's frustrating because I don't know what and how I can get it to be.
The cord in the picture is the one I use to hook up to the TV and for my speakers. It has a audio breakout cables so maybe that could be another possible issue (?)

Also, pls go easy on me. Kinda a dunce when it comes to this shit.

>>5232139
that volume knob on the back of the amplifier is probably just really sensitive
I built a volume knob for my consoles using a volume pot and some resistors. My stereo has x23 gain so I really needed to attenuate the signal to less than 1/10

>>5232153
Do you know of any way to fix the speaker itself so it isn't to sensitive? Definitely not crafty enough to build my own volume knob.

>>5232163
yeah just put blankets over it
seriously I didn't realise at first you only have ONE speaker. So it's just summing the L and R anyway.
Just plug the white cord into the audio in on your PVM and call it a day.

>>5232175
Nah I do have two, I just didn't take a picture of the other one.

>>5232072
>>5232068
>>5231982
>>5232063
For the FD/Wega Sonys, any set with FM, FS, or FV in the name are going to be standard definition, and have no lag.
Any with HS, HV, or XS in the name are going to be HD.
XBR is a bit of a mix. XBR200 and XBR250 are SD sets; The rest of the silvery design flat XBRs are HD.

With the exception of the 34XBR2, if it's flat and silver cased, a number above 350 is going to be HD, a number below 350 is going to be SD.

>>5232738
Hey Kya, any clue on my problem?
>>5227441
>>5228203

>>5231339

Kind of ticked off by my geometry. it looks great for 240p and pic related is the test suite in 480i outputting at 240p but jesus if i try to play something else its fucked. I booted up mario kart wii and a good chunk of the screen on the left and right was off screen. Oddly enough if i play something like melee i only lose maybe an inch on the left side of the screen.

Anyone know whats up or is this something i just sort of have to deal with

>>5233183
I'm pretty sure it's possible to adjust the underscan button so it doesn't actually underscan but instead changes the picture position or size or something. Might be worth looking into?

>>5232068

HD CRTs don't have scanlines. Games that aren't 6th gen are going to look like shit. If you look at the specs of a set and you see it does 480p, that's an HD CRT. It's the best possible option for component 480p, but that's all it does.
>>5232738
I've got an 34XBR and I'm not sure if its a geometry issue because it gets worse depending on the console, but the TV seems to struggle with nes and snes, it gets blurry depending on what's on the screen, and some parts of the screen are stretched. I believe that's because HD CRTs have one native resolution and emulate all the others, poorly. My SD CRT died and I'm having to make do with this shit for the moment. Fatal Frame 3 in 480p looks fucking amazing, though.

>>5233183
>>5233191
If you have a professional monitor, that is. I can't tell for sure.

>tfw every pawn shop in my city stopped carrying CRTs five years ago
>tfw my old CRT is in the dump along with every other in the city
Guess I'll order a tiny one off ebay.

>>5233193
i mean i did, but this is just my regular consumer tv now. its not nearly as bad with something like ps2 games.

I think something about wii games just stretches it the fuck out. Then again i am missing some a tiny bit of the top of the screen on ps2 games.

>inb4 switch wii setting to 4:3
already checked that

>>5233196
don't. I guarantee you there is a perfectly fine crt near you for sale right now. Especially if you are in a city

>>5233196
You can always go to the dump and steal it back when nobody's looking.

>>5230440
I recently watched Nadia: Secret of Blue Water on my old computer monitor >>5226285 and it looked great, but it was actually pretty distracting because of how completely aware I was of the layering of the cells, ink and paint. Gainax had some pretty fucking sloppy painters, too, since just about every episode has multiple instances of paint going outside the lines.

Why has nobody thought to import a couple hundred brand new chink crt's and sell them off?

>>5234337
They're pretty shit. A lot of the time they're using recycled tubes even when they say they're not. And the chassis are rubbish.

A used name-brand will be better.

>>5219446
same here
at least it's a low usage BVM-20F1E

>>5234779
need help >>5234773

>>5229462
>a higher quality tv has less bleeding between lines, right?
Yes but you have to keep in mind that sometimes they use this sort of blending or blooming of the colors to achieve a visual aesthetic. It's also the thing which emulation truly fails to recreate.

>>5232186
just in case you or anyone else want to diy a volume knob, it's real easy. if you get the parts from somewhere like tayda it'd be really cheap too

>>5219446
i now have 5 of them
crt addiction is growing
its bad
but it makes me happier

>>5219995
not worth it
i got 3 for free and they were probably still not worth it
but they're very good

>>5220437
>composite input in the front
nice, grab it

>>5235154
Emulation can do dithering and "composite" low quality looks for a long time now. 10+ years at the minimum. Even mediocre emulators can do this.

>>5222520
>Or will some nerdy enthusiasts step up to the plate to help repair/manufacture more?
it would cost way too much like 10k per set

>>5228864
>ignoring price
rgb top loader.

>>5231339
horrible what the fuck is this, ass-video?

>>5222537
inb4 rash of retard hipsters irradiating or electrocuting themselves by fucking with electron guns because /vr/ and /g/ told them to

>>5235417
Do you know if there's a video detailing this? I might actually be interested in making one.

>>5219995
It arrived in one piece and I'm pretty happy with it. Has a problem with the power button though. Instead of powering off it just resets the TV like 9/10 times. I can't seem to change it by pressing the button any differently. Just seems to do what it wants, and when it powers back on I manually have to crank the contrast as it resets to 0. Anybody know what this is? More likely a mechanical problem or bad capacitors? I figure getting a remote could be a good workaround.
Also how necessary is a recap? I've got some wavy geometry on the right side. It's not horrible and I can live with it but it won't kick the bucket soon because of some old 1980s caps will it?

>>5236157
actually you can just buy one, check on ebay for LC-1 Control Knob

What is the best way to go from a 5 bnc (RGBHV) to component or Svideo @ 15khz? 480i or 240p are my only options.

>>5237072
Good to know it arrived safely.
As for your issues, start by looking up a service manual for it and see what you can find out about it.
As for the caps, open it up and have a look, if they are swollen or otherwise leaking, then consider changing them, if not then best leave them alone unless you really know what your doing.

Good luck with it

>>5237164
Thanks anon. I opened it up earlier to check how bad the dust situation was and it was pretty severe. I blew a lot of cobwebs out with what little canned air I had left but since I don't want to die I didn't do much more, but it's still pretty bad in there and the board is just coated in it. I didn't notice any particular caps that looked swollen or busted bad but it was tough to tell beneath all the dust and I don't have a trained eye for it. I couldn't find a service manual, but the user manual did mention something about powering the TV on and them using the remote to handle powering on/off, like the on board control handles a main power function and the remote handles a secondary power function, so for whatever problem it's having with the power button I think ordering remote is my best bet.
Any tips for cleaning the inside of the thing without dying? Like I can't just leave it that filthy in good conscience.

>>5237207
I used a one of those long and soft makeup brushes to gently dust mine off, also a can of air.
I was worried I could damage it due to static electricity but nothing happened in my case.
Still not a perfect job but better than before.

Maybe the power button has two functions but it could be affected by all the dust, see if you can remove it and clean it up then try again.

>>5237132
What about a scart to component box?

My trinatron needs recapped and serviced... Send help

>>5237231
I did as you suggested and there's kind of an improvement. I dusted with a makeup brush and the board is looking much better. Again, didn't notice any obviously bad caps. I managed to pull the board away from the power button and dusted between the two. It seems to power off more reliably now but I have to be really quick with the button. If I press it a split second longer than necessary, it will just reset the TV. That suggests to me it's a problem with the button or the switch, which is good to know. Still have to crank contrast every time I turn it on though.
Thanks again anon.

>>5237335
you could try some deoxit on the internal part of the switch (or just wd40 it is pretty much the same thing)

>>5237335
Glad it helped.
What's the model number? I want to see if I can find something related to the contrast problem.

As for the button, I would clean the contacts and do as >>5237371 suggested if there's moving parts.

>>5237450
Model is KV-1397R
I tried googling for the problem with the contrast and didn't come up with anything, you may have better luck. The contrast setting is the only setting that doesn't use a potentiometer, it's button controlled, if that helps.
As for the power button, I would guess it's just been pushed into death or something and some sort of contact has been damaged. Will try wd-40 tomorrow.

>>5237515
Okay, I'm at work right now but I'll have a look and let you know if I find something.

>>5237287
>What about a scart to component box?
No, I don't think that would work. I am trying to go from a PC to a 240p tv. I may have to suck it up and buy either a down scaler or a video card that can output 15khz.

>>5237909
I make a VGA to YPbPr transcoder, you would still need a 15kHz source though if you want 15kHz out.

There aren't many cheapish ways to convert down to 240p.

>>5219304
>CRTfags will unironically defend HUGE black LINE through their sprites
OH NO NO NO HAHAHAH

>>5235696
RGB to VGA via an OSSC.
Figured I'd try a VGA monitor since the damn thing isn't compatible with my TV at all.

>happen upon an actual LCD EDTV at a thrift store
>30 bucks, why the hell not
480p content is surprisingly crisp on it. Call the cops I don't give a fuck

>>5237327
Sorry this board offers no help only passive aggressive faggot shit

>>5233183
Did you calibrate using the 224p grid maybe? Good to use for old games but not past 6th gen.

>>5239570
Post some pics. I'd really want to see how's the image quality on these.

>>5240031
Well none of it is technically retro and the response time is obviously atrocious considering it's like a 12 year old LCD so the ghosting is obvious as fuck when you take pictures.

>>5240031
Had to shrink this one a bit. The colors are off due to the phone getting pissy at the lighting conditions. Sitting in front of it colors look okay if a bit saturated and the blur isn't too noticeable unless the movement is really fast. Burnout 3 plays and looks fine and Soulcalibur 3 looked about as good as I remember it on my old CRT, but my PS2 component cables are cheap chinese shit and a little noisy. If anything this is making me want to hunt down some quality cables now

anything cool I could do with an apple Performa plus display? I think it's fixed at 480p through vga

Hey guys, is this scratched PVM fixable by pulling off the anti-glare coating on the tube? Is it even a good professional CRT for the price?

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/pho/d/richmond-sony-pvm-14l5-trinitron-color/6771315554.html

>>5240290
Possibly if you're lucky but that is a really good price for a 14L5. They're multi format so they can take 480p, 720p and 1080i

>>5235687
Congratulations at failing entirely to understand what the post was about.

Do any CRt tvs play vga dreamcast games at 480p?

>>5240538
Your best options for that are a VGA monitor or a Multiformat PVM

>>5240549
Fuck
Monitors are too small for multiplayer splitscreen and such

>>5240572
I guess it might be possible to get an HD CRT but I don't recommend getting those. In my experience they're kind of laggy and stuff on them doesn't really look any better than it would on a modern TV

>>5240572
presentation monitors, from 29" to 37", rare and expensive
sony PGM, from 25" to 29", rare but not in demand so you could bargain
PC monitors, up to 21/22", the easiest option
You might just wanna try on a flat panel honestly, 480p VGA tends to looks good even on flat panels.

>>5240538
There are some but they do tend to be kinda rare.

>>5238086
I made this pic and you made it look like moire shit with jaypeg and shit scaling you FAGGOT. Go back to Fagistan where there are plenty of cocks for you to suck

>>5241152
Anon don't give him attention. He's been shitposting about CRTs for a week now because one fell on his mother's head and squashed her dead.

Does any company manufacture CRTs nowadays?

>>5230515

Did you ever check out the cab?
How cheap was it?
If the monitor was completely fucked, I would've payed max $200 for it.

Candy cab parts can fetch decent prices.
As long as you know how to take it apart, it would be worth it for that alone.
And whatever you do, don't do this to cabs that are in great shape. It's very difficult to find cabs like those without some sort of flaw or damage.

>>5241691
I'm pretty sure they still sell certain professional models but they're absurdly expensive

>Find SR 3000 Remote Commander made by Sears from 1986
>It has RF and Composite! Composite in 1986!
>Has an OSD that looks sexy (maybe RGB moddable, OSD items look super crisp and good)
>Composite doesn't work

What can I do? I've tried reflowing all components on the AV board and wiggling molex connectors. Any ideas on this thing other than replacing all components on the board? The case is in rough shape, but has cool aesthetic to it and damn that osd looks good, I bet rgb would look top notch on here.

>>5242282
Figure out if there's a short somewhere on the circuit with a multi-meter. Sometimes the RCA connectors for composite can just become loose over time.

>$122.99
>For a 13 inch trinitron
>Composite only
>It's not even a PVM
Can someone explain to me what the fuck is going on here?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/173666884009/

>>5242316
0 watchers, as it should be. Also that CRT is in the 2003 movie, Elf.

>>5242345
Maybe the link didn't work, but that CRT SOLD for that price in completed listings.

>>5242347
My mistake, people are retarded.

>>5219304
this is a dumb question but what model is op's pic?

>>5240173
>>5240183

These look really good!
I tought that these LCD EDTV will look blurry af.

What's your TV breand/model? how many inches?

>>5242496
Left is technically a damaged JVC TM-H1900G, and right is technically a JVC TM-H1750CG.

>>5242305
>n the circuit with a multi-meter. Sometimes the RCA con
Thanks anon, I'll try poking it with my multimeter. The jacks were knocked loose, like the board was pushed into the case (broken old brittle plastic on the shell). I get audio so I know at least that part works. I may just try running some jumper wires to see if it's the physical connection that's bad. I didn't see any cracks or damage on the board itself but my hands were practically frozen and I wasn't really focused well. I'd really like to give this thing another lease on life, such a cool looking set. I'll post some pics once I get it back together.

>>5242621
thanks anon

Building a windows 98 /vr/ pc, im not too sure on what kind of monitor i should get for it. Best brands/models? What resolution should I go for? Most 2d games are 480p, does that mean I should 960p to avoid upscaling issues or do crts not work that way?

>>5242639
sounds like a job for a signal tracer

>>5231059
I use a JVC I'Art, I love it. Mine is a 36" monster though

>>5243332
Forgot to crop the white part

I think this is about as good as i can get the composite picture from my NES

Hey how do I take a picture of my CRT w/o it looking like shit? I heard something about having a small glow pointed at the screen but I haven't tried it yet and it doesn't sound like it'd do anything other than give me glare

>>5243542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j0IC0bu3dg
mostly just setting the shutter speed to 1/60th.

I didn't fall for the pvm meme but I do have a Mitsubishi crt with svideo and rca input and output and I connected a y splitter to use headphones on the stereo out and even turning the TV volume up all the way it is just at a reasonable volume so if I ever need to turn it up higher I can't do anything about it. Do I need an amp to get it louder?

Would y'all mind photographing your CRTs displaying this image and telling me the make and model?

>>5242845
Aside from making sure the monitor you end up with is capable of scanning that the horizontal frequency(and vertical for refresh) as well as that it has a fine enough mask/grille pitch to resolve the resolution you want, it'll display any resolution you toss at it straight up. No scaling involved; 480p will be displayed just as cleanly at 960p.

>>5244017
That's gonna depend an awful lot on people's cameras being appropriately setup to not tinge the photo.

>>5243764
The audio going to the TV, and that you're pushing off to your headphones is line level and very low power; It's not able to properly drive your headphones which is why it's so quiet and likely doesn't sound that great. You'd need a standalone headphone amp or a TV which straight up has one built in to get proper results.

>>5244023
I have many dirty tricks for getting the approximate image back. Ain't trying to do science anyway, just wanna get the general feel of something.

>>5243558
I remember ages ago watching some of this guys content and him being so terribly incorrect I just assume he is wrong about everything. Even when he is stating facts I know are true.

>>5243332
I ended up picking up that TV. It's pretty good once I adjusted the picture but it has some geometry issues that I'll need to adjust sometime

>>5242282
>>It has RF and Composite! Composite in 1986!
My 1982 Sony Videoscope KP-5040 CRT front projection set has composite and stereo, but then it cost $3200 that year (mine came with store receipt and manual) which would be near $10k now.

>>5240290
>Hey guys, is this scratched PVM fixable by pulling off the anti-glare coating on the tube? Is it even a good professional CRT for the price?
IF it has anti-glare coating, it should pull right off. I did it with my GDM. The screen will be incredibly bright however. You could replace it with some circular polarizing film.

>>5242316
>Can someone explain to me what the fuck is going on here?
People are trying to cash in on the stupidity of others. I wouldn't pay more than $15 for that tv, and that was only if I had no choice and had to buy it. It has no value to any "retro gamer", but some dipshit will buy it just for reddit points.

190lb 34in 1080 crt for sale near me, seller wants $10. Am I going to get bamboozled?

>>5242621
Converted to arcade monitors?

>>5244174
By back pain, yes.

>>5244174
I'm pretty sure the 970 doesn't have the super fine pitch display, so I wouldn't get it when there are 910/955/960's out there with better image quality

>>5242282
>Composite in 1986!
I had a 1987 Mitsubishi CS-2001R that I played basically every video game ever on, and that had composite. I think it was more common on smaller sets than it was on big floor/cabinet sets.

>>5244252
My B&O ME6000 from 1989 has RGB SCART. These were available in the US as far as I'm aware.

>>5224772
I still have my 1702, I used it during my childhood for c64, nes, snes, gamecube, etc. 2D stuff looks great on them, even on composite. Actually I've only recently find out about the s-video and made an adapter for it. They have handles on the sides and are super easy to carry around.

>>5244096
how did these types of crt projectors work without having phosphor to light up?

>>5244742
Not them, but there are no "CRT projectors" in the sense that the CRT is in the screen, but instead in the base. The screen is not a tube.

>>5244748
umm, that doesn't help me at all.

That's a front projection crt setup, I also wanna know how rear projection and normal triple crt projectors work. Can you help me out?

>>5244023
thank fuck, i hate dealing with scaling issues. anyone have any specific brands/features/etc to look out for in a pc monitor?

>>5244828
I don't think that would be an issue with a crt

>buy a Genesis SCART cable
>no sync and only red, doesn't like to stay attached to the A/V port
>buy another one
>seller sends me a Saturn SCART cable instead
>look up C vs V cables and buy what I think is the correct one
>no sync and only red, so stiff to attach that half the pins probably don't make contact
Am I missing something? Is there a recommended Genesis SCART cable?

>>5244951
>Am I missing something? Is there a recommended Genesis SCART cable?
RGC or Retro Access depending on where you are. Don't buy chink shit.

>>5245078
What about Insurrection? Much cheaper.

>>5245084
they're good too but seem to be literal communists.

>>5244176
Performing some work on them; Will have a better answer in a day or so.

>>5244754
CRT projectors and rear projection TVs just use 3 small CRT but they're pushing the brightness to the max, hence why many have burn-in.
Rear projection additionaly have a fresnel lens to limit brightness loss, at the cost of viewing angles

How's this crt? It seems to flicker but I like it more than my composite HD TV.

>>5245441
and because they push the brightness to the max they don't need a phosphor thing to shoot electrons at?

>>5245539
That has to be some generic TV that Memorex put their name on. Probably a Symphonic tv re-branded. 20 inches, right?

>>5246023
There are tubes in the chassis that emit onto the mirror at the front of the unit. The image is then reflected onto the projection screen. You can see the lenses coming from that unit's tubes pointing out the front.

>>5246076
How are the colours on a set like this? I imagine they'd suck but I'd like to be surprised. Could you take a close up of it for us?

>>5246076
what if there was no mirror at all and the just pointed at a wall like 12 feet away?

Just found a Sony Trinitron KV-M1621E and can't find anything about it online. Where would one start looking for a manual?

>>5246090
Color fidelity is highly dependent upon the set and the display screen. I'm not whoever has that integrated unit, but I have a front projection Sony G90 projector, which is the highest-end unit made. The color reproduction is quite good, but it's a much different beast from a rear-projection or integrated silver screen unit.

>>5246196
Notice the curve of the screen on top of the unit. This (>>5244096) unit's lenses are not designed to accommodate focus onto a flat surface. Front projection units have separate focus for the center and edges of the projected image.

>>5246247
>G90
Jeez-o dude, I'm jealous. How easy was it to set up and how many hours can they normally run for? Having a 90"+ CRT that can display 1080p sounds like the best thing. Can it do multisync?

>>5246380
Setup was long the first time, but after that, it's quite easy when you understand what you're doing. It helps it's a digital unit with sophisticated setup tools built in. It handles 240p to well beyond 1080p in essentially every analog signal format I'm aware of, but I have an HDMI input card for it, and use it at 1080p all the ti
e. Tube lifetime is a matter of how the set was configured before, and how hard you drive it in your setup. The tubes in mine are somewhat worn, but I'm projecting to a smaller screen, so can turn the brightness down. Working on getting some newer decent tubes for it, and anything in decent condition could theoretically get me 10-20,000+ hours, but something else is likely to go bad before then

>>5246090
>How are the colours on a set like this?
It's all a matter of doing the convergence well. That Sony videoscope I have has a built in pattern generator for this purpose. Such alignments are fiddly and take time, but that applies to the later high def CRT pjs too.

This thing is totally analog in terms of all those fine geometry and convergence adjustments, in addition to the user accessible settings for aligning the colors, which is a megaton of pots under the hood, as this guy's video shows with his: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NReTXzF41T4

>>5246051
Yeah, a friend gave it to me so I'm really just using it until I find a better brand but the thrift stores and haven't been very generous.

>>5244017
I didnt realize something as sterile as tech calibration could have pc multiculturism shoehorned into it.

>>5246485
there's more to pro calibration than making sure the sky in your bing bing wahoos is purple

what crt is this?

>>5247657
me in the chair

>>5222510
try 240p

>>5245539
looks pretty good for retro gaming

I got a PAL Trinitron that SHOULD work at 60hz even though it says 50hz on the back.

When I plug my N64 through SCART it just goes B&W.

But when I switch the SAME CABLE to my GameCube (and having it set to 60hz running GBP) it works just fine.

What am I missing?

>>5248352
followup pic

>>5247657
Toshiba 32A62
Also me on the couch

>>5248352
Just a theory but the N64 isn't hooked up for RGB internally. Could be the SCART cable you're using just isn't compatible with it.

>>5248352
Is it a GameCube RGB scart cable? Since the N64 doesn't do RGB without modding the system.

>>5248352
60hz video can use PAL colour encoding as well, or maybe it's RGB like >>5248530
said. Does the TV have a menu? Sometimes you have to choose PAL or NTSC manually.

>>5248409
you sure it isn't a 36 inch?

>>5248474
>>5248530
>>5248581
You're all right anons.

N64 can't output RGB so no color since the TV Set only does PAL and not NTSC.

The GameCube is outputting PAL60 so it works.


Fug.

I want to adjust the geometry on a JVC I'Art TV but I don't know what all the service menu options do. Does anybody know which options to go onto for geometry adjustment?

I have a Sont Trinitron 14' and a bigger and newer Philips. But the Philips looks like a turd, I can't believe how there's that much difference, it's like the RGB barely improves the image quality and some games look pretty much the same.
I had a 32' Bluesky (cheapest shittiest brand ever) some time ago, and eveything looked gorgeous.
I don't know why this is happening.

>>5224772
They’re great if you want period and system authenticity, but there’s other CRT displays with more bells and whistles at the same price point.

Noobie question here, why doesn't TVs flick like CRT monitors?

Still have the big ass CRT my parents used to have in the living room, thing weighs about the same as the moon. Problem is it fell over at one point and the frame is cracked, so I'm looking for a cheap new one.
Though I've only used CRTs for the entirety of my life, I still don't know shit about the tech.

Can /CRT/ help me out and tell me a little about what to look out for when getting a new one? Any hardware specifics it has to have to offer the best possible picture? Are small CRTs better, or can I get another big one? Curved glass or flat? Recommended brands and brands to avoid at all costs?
Only thing I ever did was to make sure it had composite-, SCART- and RF-ins. Also I'm from Germany, just in case there are any major differences to CRTs from other places.

>>5249713
Most of these questions are answered in the sticky. I'd recommend getting a Bang & Olufsen set. They have all the features you're looking for, and are much easier to find in Europe than in the states.

>>5249726
Fuck, I totally forgot to check it first. Thank you!

>>5230432
>60hz mod a french nintendo
sauce on this? never heard of this perticular mod.

anyone want to help me tune my 5041q? Bought the fucker on ebay and it has some weird greenish tint to it. Makes everything look out of wack. Aside from that the geometry looks fucking bangin! Wouldn't mind adjusting it a bit though.

already have this
https://ia600808.us.archive.org/21/items/SonyPVM5041QPVM6041QOperationInstructionsAnd6041ServiceManual/Sony%20PVM-5041Q%20PVM-6041Q%20Operation%20Instructions%20and%206041%20Service%20Manual.pdf

Just never adjusted pots or whatever the fuck you guys are going to say so I'm hoping ya'll can coach me through it.

>>5249809
adjusted a yoke*
my b

Looks like your Green Cut aka G-CUT is too high. No clue where the adjustment is though on that monitor.

>>5249938
update left the tv on for a while and powered on and off a few times and there's significant less green. Also odd note is that if i push downwards on the brightness knob it really gets rid of the green, but its a constant battle for the monitor. It flickers back and forth between the two.

Not sure what's up but i think i might just leave it be for now.

>>5219358
it looks like ass.
the greasy, fat cellulite type of ass.

Any good SCART switchers with many ports that are also affordable? Also, can I chain-link these without loss of quality?

I'm about to pick this thing up from family who I asked if they had any CRTs laying around.
Any CRT nerds know if this is a good TV?

>>5250845
Toshiba so probably very good, I'm wary of any flat screen CRT though.

>>5250849
is there any reason why flat CRTs are to be wary of?

>>5250851
Higher chance of geometry errors.

>>5250864
thank you
I'm planning on putting together a raspberry pi and using it with this thing.

Just picked up a Sony KV34HS420 in great shape for free yesterday. Thoughts? I gotta clean my shelves before I post pics.

>>5250876
Oh you poor sod, lol.
Gl tho.

>>5249938
Page 23 of that manual details it; On the B-Board. Looks like it likely uses Red as a reference, and then you adjust Green and Blue from there.

If leaving it on to warm up, that hints to aging caps being partially responsible. In turn, if applying force to different connectors/knobs affects things, that's a sign of either those knobs being gunked up or their simply being a bad connection somewhere with in that circuit; The latter of which is actually very common on the 5'' and 8'' sets.

>>5250928
If you're looking to use it for movies and the like, or 1080i and -maybe- 480p stuff, it'll be nice. It doesn't treat 240p the greatest, and has a few frames of delay depending on what signal you're feeding; 3 for 240p/480i, 2 for 480p, (presumably) 720p, and 1080i by default, and 0-1 with some tweaks but only for 1080i/540p.

>>5246453
i'd check any sort of classifieds (craigslist, kijiji) often, people usually give away trinitrons

>>5252463
My tests have shown about 1 frame of lag on average on the 240p test suite on my dreamcast. I would test the other resolutions if I could. Still, 1-2 frames is unnoticeable during actual gameplay. the dc was on composite and not vga+hdmi box

>>5252778
If that's based on the manual button pressing test, that really just comes down to your ability to predict when the bar is going to be over the center position. Your reaction and ability to adjust+predict rather than the TV's.

Dreamcast Microphone test is apparently more reliable, but is also dependent on both the audio and video chain to be perfectly synced up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--xY_NvwJ_g

>>5242316
Just get one from someone IRL. Guaranteed there is somebody RIGHT NOW in ur town who wants to ditch their old tube

Newbie question:
If I run a composite video cable through one of these RCA to RGB SCART adapters in pic related and plug that into the TV, does that actually up the video quality to RGB, or will I still have that blurry composite picture and all I did was change connectors with no difference in quality?

>>5253145
All you're doing is changing the connection type, so you'll still get the composite image.

Anyone know the name of the rack that fits 4 8041's? It doesn't line them up across but rather stacks them to make a nice square. The cage wraps all around the sides and top and bottom.

Some guy was selling it on eBay for the longest but I never jumped on it.

Anyone know what model this is?

How do I remove the blue bars so the game is in fullscreen mode?
It's a sega megadrive connected via composite to a PVM.

>>5254171
Ouch, that sure is megadrive composite alright.
You live in PAL regions right? You need to 60hz mod the console. It's pretty darn easy but you need a soldering iron.

>>5254171
That's a software bug. Nothing you can do. Knuckles in Sonic 2 corrected it.

>>5254194
I plan on doing it sooner or later.

>>5254196
Well shit, I'm all out of luck then.

I don't get it tho, every other megadrive game has the wrong aspect ratio.
I remember when I was a kid they all fit the consumer crt we had.

>>5254213
Google overscan

>>5254218
>Google overscan
My overscan is already set in such a way that the menus for all my other consoles will more or less fit, I'm just going to leave it like that for now untill I have the time to open it up and readjust the geometry pots.

Thanks for the helpful input.

>>5254213
The bars are a result of the games running higher resolution in PAL areas. As a result, the games were squished normally to accomodate the extra resolution without losing performance. Less lazy developers fixed this but mostly with the MD your best bet is the 60hz mod.

Should I have "Effect: Surround" turned on or off if I don't have actual surround speakers?

>>5254259
I didn't think the squishing effect is so severe, well anyway, one extra reason to mod it I guess.

>>5254121
It's a Panasonic bt-1390yn.
I actually have one of those.

>>5254282
Look up psychoacoustics and inter-aural differences. Pretty much, your tv uses the built in 2.1 or sometimes 2.0 speakers to push audio in a way that tricks you into a more encompassing sound in a room. It crosses over with a way of pushing audio that travels indirectly first, usually hitting walls or surroundings before you. You can probably find binaurel audio videos on youtube that with headphones sound like hundreds of points of audio, your tv virtual surround is a less good version of that. Still found on tvs to this day.

Simply put, fake surround sound that works sort of good actually.

Biggest issue is sometimes needing the volume higher which doesn't sound loud to you, but in another room will be very loud. Also accuracy of reproduction can be lowered, but with built in tv speakers, accuracy probably isn't on your mind.

>>5253294
Thanks

>>5254705
Thanks dude. I haven't tested it while it's off yet but it's actually pretty loud at the lowest volume setting while I'm in the room with the TV.

>>5254831
why did you say "thanks" to that post?

>>5255940
I think he was being snarky because nobody had an answer to his post

Scored this Viewsonic G810 for $9.00. I see it selling on eBay for $500. Is it really worth that much? I kinda wanna keep but if I can turn a profit like that...

>>5256613
Forgot pic

>>5256616
no, it is not worth that. over $60 I wouldn't even consider it

>>5255940
It was a case study

>>5231823
Buy one from wookiewin on eBay if you use SCART, Retro-Access if you use BNC.

>>5256613
No, that's just someone trying to cash in on the retro meme and sucker a low-info buyer. There's only a handful of VGA monitors that are definitely worth anywhere near that dollar figure, and $500 is currently well over their market value before shipping is factored in.

I have a JVC I'Art TV but for some reason the audio keeps cutting out briefly every once in a while. It's only for less than a second but it's annoying. I know it's not a problem with my local consoles or cables since they work when plugged into something else just fine. Anybody know what the problem could be?

Not the best photo but my phone can't do much better.

My mom is upset with me because I want to keep my CRTs around, she says I need to "throw that oversized garbage away already" and get a proper monitor and TV. I already told her about the advantages, but she always does this belittling smirk and says "yeah, whatever you say".
How can I get my mom into CRTs?

>>5257349
How many do you have and how old are you.

>>5257351
Two, one for my consoles and one for my computer. I'm in my mid 20s.

>>5257349
You can't. If you're underage as I suspect then quit complaining that the person who pays your way has rules.

As long as your mom owns the house where you store your crts, she has every right to tell you to get rid of them. Give her the respect she deserves in her own house.

If you're in your mid 20s and not in college for a Doctorate Degree, you shouldn't be living at home. Come be poor like the rest of us wage slaves. You might not have money for cool toys due to bills, but you'll have a sense of self respect and be able to have as many crts as you can fit in your house/apartment.

Genesis RGB on my PVM 14M2U

How do I take good pictures from a crt

>>5257482

>>5257482
If you're on android, swipe right, go into pro mode and adjust the iso setting and shutter speed. You'll likely want something from 15-60 to sync up with your tv. You can also use manual focus.

are console CRTs cringe?

>>5258868
What do you mean? It looks OK.

>>5242586
Had to look it up since Im home with family now. WF20L6. Symphonic is the brand. 20" which is bigger than you think given its 4:3.

>>5257358
My rents have embraced what a weird nutter I am. I've had upwards of 4 CRT's in my room at one time and roughly 8 screens total.

Now I've cooled it and only have 1 CRT and 2 flat screens. Mom still complains about the 250 pound turd in my room(not me).

Hey all - I've just picked up a couple of lil Sony 8040s and I'm wondering - is S-video or the BNC the way to go?
I'm planning on using my Dreamcast, SNES and maybe PC on it. What do y'all prefer?

>>5261275
One is a signal type, the other is a connector type which can carry many different signal types.

Clarify.

>>5261289
Maybe I've misunderstood these inputs. This is what they look like. S-Video seems to be the best choice.

>>5261328
bnc is the name of the plug. That specific plug sends the same information as the standard yellow rca plug, composite video, which sends the color, brightness, and sync signals down one wire. The s-video input is called a DIN connector, and sends the brightness and color signals down separate wires, so there is less interference between them, and you get a better image. There are a few other types of signals and connectors, so I encourage you to look them up.

>>5261336
I grabbed some S-Video cables for my favorite consoles. THanks for the tips I read up a bit.

If anyone else has input on how to scale something properly on it on a PC or Raspberry pi, let me know, I'll prob just make this a gaming machine.

Not sure if this thread is the right place to ask so feel free to redirect me in the right direction if it's not.

I want to connect my megadrive to my PVM, but the only way it seems is to buy a breakout cable with female scart and BNC connectors on end, considering I wasn't to connecting using a switchbox that means additional adapters inbetween.

My question is, how hard would it be to make my own component cable from a regular megadrive scart cable?

Any schematics I could follow? My search hasn't yield much of a result.