/vr/ - Retro Games

What would retro gaming be like if Hitler had won WW2?

Aufbauspiele

The problem with BG was less censorship and more the garbage translation. If you had a brain you pirated the original versions.

>>5227803
We simply imported from UK or Austria. I never had problems buying and playing the games that I want. When something was hard to get or the sellers/salesclerk was stubborn, you told your parents or older friends to get it for you.

was Doom even banned or was it sold only in porn stores?

>>5227825
It was never "banned", just like every other game that landed on list A of the BPjS / BPjM.
You were simply not allowed to advertise it and make it freely available to minors.

>>5227825
Indexed so the latter.
You needed swastikas or completely senseless violence to get banned.

>>5227803
>tfw you never gave a shit about BPjS censors and played whatever you wanted

My dad bought DN3D on US release and we played it cooperatively over LAN. I miss him. :/

>ads, articles and walkthroughs plastered all over the mags including front covers because it took months for games to get put on the index
>shareware versions were like on every "100 TOP GAMES ON ONE CD!" and magazine disc
>games were still freely available to buy for adults
>everyone with half a working brain and a schoolyard knew how to get the actually banned stuff

>>5227803
Too busy jerking off to hentai game classics that were freely available at your local kiosk bundled with a walkthrough mag.

>>5227904
>Uneingeschränkte
Clever of them to avoid the word uncensored

>>5227904
>not a wankthrough mag

0/6000000 try again.

>>5227908
In BSG's case it actually DID mean "unrestricted", as in no demo, shareware or one of those weird-ass versions where the game would only include half of the episodes like that one Jazz Jackrabbit Special Edition.

>>5227803
>Prolific and iconic home titles during all the 90s
>Bitches about censorship of imported crap

>>5227803
>OI YOU GOT YOUR DOOM LOISENCE M8?

>>5227832
That's so fucking stupid.

Games where you KILLED Nazis were banned too? Christ yuroland is a dystopia.

>>5227946
It's like you are stupid on purpose

>>5227956
>oh no hanz our youth are going to be radicalized by wolfenstein and we'll have another reichstag fire before you know it

God, g*rmans are pathetic. You lot sure have a fetish for arbitrary censorship.

How normal is piracy in Germany?

>>5227971
Prosecuted heavily. Funny that the government is so paranoid about people being thieves of video games when they prop up their economy by giving predatory loans to impoverished European nations. The eternal German is always waiting to ruin Europe.

>>5227964
projecting much?
I'm not loaded with white guilt nonsense and I'm also against any form of censorship. I just can't take the 9000th-Jewish-pozzed-WWII-shoot-evil-Nazi-fantasy-garbage seriously anymore. Trash like this has really no place here.

>>5227803
What could they censor in Baldur's Gate?

>>5227994
Hans is mad because he lost the war lmao

>>5227971
We never cared much, to say the least. Our machines at the Uni were in perma-upload/download use to get the newest shit 24/7.

>>5227984
Shit I don't think you can even get prosecuted for downloading vidyas in France

>>5227946
Killing Nazis or killing as Nazis, e.g. Panzer General, is fine, you just can't display prohibited symbols.

>>5227998
Not mad, but I had nothing to do with it and I don't care about all the kvetching Jews that whine on TV all the time. I want to see my country on top, like every serious nationalist would.

>>5227996
Blood and splatter.
https://www.schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=4203

>>5228006
too bad Mahmud is busy playing Carmageddon IRL and you do nothing about it lol

>>5228016
too bad skyler and tyler and jared and braxley and noah and zebulon and jayden and jaden and d'jayddh'n are busy playing Doom school maps IRL and you do nothing about it lol

>>5227964
Don't want to break it for you, but I'm Czech. Never had any censorship going, including commie period.

>>5228009
Oh, really, who cares. It adds nothing to the game.

>>5227994
>>5228006
I had you figured out wrong, you're alright.

>>5228039
From what I understand Czechoslovakia was never too hardcore on the commie dystopia thing. The Warsaw Pact had to invade to keep you guys from leaving the Eastern Bloc.

>>5227803
Whoever sits at the top of that censorship organisation has problems with:

violence against humans, so change them to robots
graphic violence like dismemberment, gibbing and in some cases even the ragdoll effects. things like this are missing in many censored versions
certain political symbols, to the point where they rewrite history, just for the sake of avoiding the Swastika

luckily I never bothered with localized trash versions

>>5227971
Everyone I ever knew that was into vidya pirated and shared games with others.

Giana Sisters on C64 was gud. Definitely better than that retarded plumber from Japan.

>only PC games mentioned
How was console gaming in Germany?

>>5228074
A dark age, full of badly converted 50Hz garbage...with stuff coming out months or even years after the US/JAP releases.

Again, importing and modding your systems was mandatory.

Luckily every game mag in the 8/16/32 bit era was full of ads from import dealers.

>>5228074
Mostly Nintendo territory with the odd Sega console owner here and there.

Germany also had its own Ted Woolsey in the form of Claude Moyse who was infamous for his rather questionable translations that included German pop culture references, inside jokes and even various plot rewrites (nothing extreme but the two phases of the final boss in Terranigma got turned into two separate entities for example called Agarack and Ragnara).

The guy was also responsible for all those fucked-up Mario comics.
He basically sent some half-assed scripts to NOJ, they tried to make heads or tails out of that nonsense and got glorious shit like this in return.

>>5228105
>Claude Moyse
Haven't heard that name in...uh...decades? Bet that weirdo is a tranny by now.

>>5227803
Pretty much the samethingjaåan has for console gaming now

>>5228114
>Bet that weirdo is a tranny by now.
What would make you think that?
He has his own publishing company now that focuses on magazines about Japanese culture aimed at girls/young women, some of which are also about BL and Yaoi.
Huh. Well, still, I don't think he's trans or anything.

>>5228161
but he's definitely a weirdo

>>5227817
Every Hollywood movie banned because JEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWSSSSSSSSS

>>5227894
Even afterwards they got creative when they wanted to mention a title put on the index.
I remember 'Resident Evil' becoming 'President Stiefel'.

>>5227817
Using advanced ancient alien ufo technology from the secret base in Antarctica we would have had the CD32 in 1955. And everyone would forced to use it to this day.
>>5228224
>movies are retro games
>putting the tard in /pol/tard

>>5228331
Meant to say hollywood movie games.

>>5227803
It started to improve in the early-mid 2000s. Also, there's Switzerland

>>5228074
Some very rough sales figures
Sega Master System - Germany: 700k, all of Europe: 7 million
NES - Germany: 1.2 million, all of Europe: 6 million
Mega Drive - Germany: 1 million, Europe: 8 million
SNES - Germany: less than 1 million (hard to find data, definitely less than NES), Europe: 8 million
Compare to home Computers
Amiga 500 - Germany: 1 million, Europe: 2.6 million
C64 - Germany: 3 million, Europe: 8-9 million

So you can see that the distribution was mostly even (except for the C64). If you went to school in a german city, you'd have at least one guy with a sega, one guy with a nintendo and one guy with a home computer among your classmates. We all played a bit of each system, taking turns visiting friends at home.

>>5228353
Despite your antijewism I'd support that

>>5227803
What versions do Austrians and Swiss get?

>>5228440
I see. Interesting that NES sold so well but SNES did not.

>>5227803
>being in Germany for studing Deutsch
>buy cod ww2 to pass time
>no nazi flag in the game
>buy red dead 2 on amazon
>delivery guy ask for my ID because the item is 18+ restricted

>>5227894
So why were they offering a sweepstakes for a trip to San Francisco anyway?

>>5227894
Was that official promo artwork for Quake? That's the goofiest looking Quakeguy I've ever seen.

>>5227803
>Baldurs Gate was censored
Literally why?

>>5228224
That's fine. I don't watch that dogshit anyway.

>>5228224
Best timeline

>>5227803
Zombies in Resident Evil had grey/green blood in the German version.

>>5228845
Pretty much all of their covers were official art.

>>5228693
What's anti-jewish about that? A tremendous amount of actors and other big names in Hollywood are Jewish.

>>5228821
Tie-in contest for the game Golden Gate Killer/SFPD Homicide.

>>5228331
Axel Stoll is that you?

>>5229194
>even back then krauts loved railroad tycoon and similar work simulations

lmao some things never change

>>5227904
it's funny how americans think they are against censorship, yet they see a nipple and they flip out. Nipples don't kill people, guns do.

>>5227803
pretty much the state of console gaming in japan now

>>5227803
>lmao what did they even play in the 90's, street cleaning simulators?
Well they certainly do that now.

>>5227803
>what did they even play
Ultima IV-VIIp2 Half-Life 1 + OpFor Turrican Deus Ex Thief 1-2 Ultima Underworld 1-2 Diablo 1-2 Dark Sun Pool of Radiance Gothic I-II Doom I System Shock 1-2 Descent 1-2 Planescape: Torment Fallout 1 Quake 1 Turok 1-2 Jedi Knight Trilogy MDK 1-2 MGS 1 + GB Mega Man 2-3 Mega Man X1-3 Duke Nukem 3D Tetris Unreal Gold-Tournament Super Metroid Contra Metal Slug Wizardry 6-8 Might and Magic IV-VI Heroes of Might and Magic II-IV Return to Castle Wolfenstein Rayman Rollercoaster Tycoon Sonic 1-3 Lufia II Myst Freespace Mechwarrior

>>5229292

>>5228224
> Implying that's bad

>>5227803
not to forget about Wolfenstein and Perfect Dark. Everyone played those games anyways, but it shattered our connection with people in charge of deciding what's good for children

In the Commandos series dead people were replaced by bags.

>>5229320
I never ever touched one of these desu. Stuff like this popped up like mushrooms after 2000. Good for everyone who gets some fun out of this, but not my idea of recreation.

>>5229279
Ja

>>5228054
Nobody was really hardcore about it, sans maybe, dunno, Pol Pot. And seriously, all things considered, Poles had it worse. So did East Germans. Censorship was a joke anyway, since all you had to do was make things fantasy or sci-fi and censors would let fly ANYTHING, as long as it was "green ones" and not "reds"

>>5227946
I mean, I wouldn't play a game where I have to shoot German soldiers, anyway.

Demons, fine. Ivans, fine. Tommies, fine. Yanks, fine.

But I ain't going to fire at German soldiers. Real or otherwise.

>>5227803
I was growing up with Doom on the Atari Jaguar and an Amiga 500+ with two big boxes full of X-Copy'd games. I sure would've liked an Arcade culture though,
then again I would've blasted too much money on those things anyway and there was the Amiga, so fuck it.

>>5227803
Why the fuck did they censor half-life?

>>5227964
lmao

>>5227971
Piracy should be normal everywhere.

>>5227803
Funny, because i
>played the hell out of all DOOMs
>played all the Half-Lifes uncensored
>played Baldur's Gate uncensored
>didn't care about muh Mortal Kombat
in germoney. You just had to not be a retard, unlike OP.

they played turrican all day and did demo scene shit.

>>5229861
90s, not 80s asshole

>>5229890
euros didn't stop playing amiga shit until the playstation came out

>>5229895
That's where you're wrong kiddo

>>5229895
also lmao @ Plebstation

>>5229901
But he's right?

>>5229901
then why do they happily shit on the snes and genesis versions of turrican and say amiga was superior? Amiga didn't get totally btfo until psx era.

>>5229908
>>5229907
No. Fuck your kiddie consoles.

>>5229915
I think your reading comprehension is lacking.

>>5229924
I think you're a huge faggot

>>5229931
If it looks like weebshit it's weebshit, you degenerate dick tucking tranny weebshit cocksucker.

>>5229931
>>5230123
Obviously meant to quote this faggot: >>5229924

>>5230125
*reply to
Fucking weebshits.

>>5229630
>I am mentally ill and cannot separate fact from fiction

>>5229630
ronny.

>>5230190
Is there a game where you can kill Ronnies?

>>5230161
You can see that just from the redditspacing

>>5230208
Show me a post from Reddit that looks like that.

>>5228105
>Claude Moyse who was infamous for his rather questionable translations that included German pop culture references
didn't he also added the "Nie ohne Kondom" in Links Awakening?

>>5229837
cause, too "brutal" and such
they removed all the gore and blood, and swapped the human enemies with robots out

>>5230249
I have flashbacks of the entire Killergame debate now.

>>5228718
Product of Austria

>>5227803
We just installed uncensor patches, you retard.

>>5230268
on the bright side we got the unforgettable Generals censorship changes. Good for a laugh while you pirate the original.

>>5227803
My favorite is "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade"
>movie is aired in the afternoon, uncut, with Nazis and swastikas in plain sight
>videogame is censored, on the index (so 18+) and was just shy of being confiscated
It's a German thing.

>>5227971
Absolutely normal. Officially of course it's illegal, but nobody cares and nobody does anything about it.

>>5229860
OP is American, thou. That makes him a retard by default.

>>5230307
Why would I pirate shit games? Fuck EA

>>5231037
It's simple...(((movies))) are considered art, games are not. That's why

>>5227803
>Drive 20min to a different country
>Buy games
>Drive home
Wew so hard

>>5231193
it's just because of a dumb court-ruling from '95 re: wolfenstein3d.
>>5232587
>20 min
germoney is not that small.

>>5227971
About as normal as eating Bratwurst and starting world wars. Since the late 80s me and my friends have always pirated fucking everything. Traded copied floppies in school, later burned CD's of PC games and PSX games. Also used computers at university and the local library to download shit with eMule and BitTorrent. Even though da gubberment was always salty as hell nobody I know gave a single fuck, ever.

>tfw in the 90s there even was a christmas themed version of XCopy

>>5227803
Those games weren't actually banned as much as you think. They were forbidden to be advertised or displayed in shops but you were allowed to sell and own them. You just had to ask in a shop if they carried imports of the game or not and show them proof that you were 18.

>>5231189
Generals was a solid game, buttmaster. It just wasn't a real C&C game.

>>5234250
Suck my ass, EA drone

>>5230161
Hey Murrica!
How was that Medal of Honor reboot in the multiplayer? I heard they are making Taliban a playable side...
>they named Taliban bitchboi "insurgents" because it'll be shocking to burgers to shoot at their own
Well, how about Six days in Fallujah? It seemed to be a pretty interesting take on the military shoo~
>outright cancelled because burger feelings
Wow, someone here sure has big broblems separating fact from fiction.

>25 years later
>Wolfenstein 3D put on the index again
>still forbidden and under confiscation
>courts consider it nazi-propaganda
https://www.foruncut.com/2018/12/wolfenstein-3d-auf-listenteil-b-folgeindiziert/ (German)

yikes.

>>5229292
it's not America who flip out, it's SJW who flip out and than the MSM act like it is the majority who flip out which makes it look like as if America flip out about nipples.

Ah, G*rmany. The country that imports subhumans by the thousands and sweeps under the rug any report of their crimes, as well as inventing stories for no other reason than to turn the public opinion against others.
Not to mention the country where Nazism and Communism were shat out for the rest of the world to deal with its stench.
Why is G*rmany a country again?

>>5230307
That's hilarious. Especially considering the state of Germany right now.

>>5236216
Enjoy getting fucked by Mexican niggers

>advergames
>TV licensed games
>that one ski jumping game
>shareware/demo CD compilations
Probably not retro but that's what i can remember at the moment

>>5237598
>>advergames
Some of that stuff was surprisingly high quality like the Kellogg's platformer from Factor 5 or Bi-Fi Roll Action in Hollywood made by The Art Department.

>>5238317
Hell, even the avertisement game for the freaking foreign office became somewhat of a cult classic.

>>5227803
>Doom
>one of the most important and iconic games
LOL how retarded do you have t be to actually believe this?

>what did they even play in the 90's
Games that were actually good

played kz manager mostly

>>5238548
edgy

Just ordered them from Austria.

>>5238348
>Doom
>not important
are you fucked in the head or just turkish?

>>5239974
>sullied gaming with FPS trash
>important

>>5241252
>thinks gaming can be sullied
>thinks FPS is a bad genre
So I guess you are both turkish and fucked in the head

>>5229354
>Nippon-Nippel
My sides

>>5241357
>Nippon-Nippel

>>5227964

better ban videogames and open our borders to pissed off muslims, yes franz this is ze best way to prevent another world war ja!

>>5227964
Your hate-boner aims at an unholy alliance of the self-proclaimed elite of liberal bourgeoisie and the few stuck up conservatives that are left here. It's mostly about control and authoritarianism, not the intention of protecting anyone from anything. It's small minded bean counters and dried-up cunts being terminally buttmad at everyone else having fun.

LAN Parties are Unesco cultural heritage.

>>5236203
Both SJWs and soccer moms hate sex, and tacitly ignore the other's hatred for it.

>>5230249
>swap all soldiers with humans
>even record new dialogue
>beep boop the freeman has eliminated many of our units beep boop

>>5242969
>soccer moms hate sex
fuck you don't ruin my fantasies