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5212002 No.5212002 [Reply] [Original]

X68000 fans here? show us your set-ups. best games? good doujin?

maybe FM Towns too for that matter

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5212207

i've been meaning to hook up a HXC to my x68k pro but keep not having time

>> No.5212208

Enjoy your weeb dating sims and hentai games.

>> No.5212229

ENJOY YOUR PORNO SLIDESHOWS YOU CHRONIC WANKER

>> No.5212258

>>5212002
I only know about this machine because Daru owned one.

>> No.5212334

>>5212002
The hardware is cool, but I wish they weren't so bloody expensive. I'll have to be content with emulation, or maybe something like a MiSTer if the X68000 core improves. Oh well, at least I got a PC-98 before prices on the good models shot through the roof.

>> No.5212350

>>5212208
>>5212229

We will, thank you very much

>> No.5212380

>>5212334
Which are the good models for PC-98?
Also which models should I look for on other retro Pasokons?
Are there any good english websites for fans of these systems?
I have a job so I'm not worried about the cost.

>> No.5212386

>>5212002
The first tower pc.

>> No.5212437

The must fun I have with this computer is playing random arcade adptations to find out how the MIDI soundtrack sounds.

>> No.5212593

>>5212380
>Which are the good models for PC-98?
A first- or second-gen A-Mate (PC-9821 A*) will get you the broadest overall compatibility. Some very early 8086 games might run too fast, but it's not as big a problem as it is with IBM compatibles. The third-gen A-Mate (Ap3/As3) dropped a graphics mode used by a handful of games, but it's still a decent choice, as is a 486-equipped 98Multi (Ce/Ce2/Cs2). You can still find good deals on these models occasionally, but you have to keep an eye out and be patient. Avoid later models, particularly ones with Cirrus Logic graphics chipsets. Also, watch out for bad capacitors in this era of NEC hardware, especially in the power supplies.
>Also which models should I look for on other retro Pasokons?
For X68k, an X68030 is obviously ideal if you can find/afford one. For MSX, might as well get a 2+ (practically nothing made use of the Turbo R's features, so it's not really worth bothering with). FM Towns I'm not too familiar with; are there any games that could make use of the power of a 486/Pentium?
>Are there any good english websites for fans of these systems?
Good ones? Nope. Time to learn Japanese.

>> No.5214002

the holy grail of retro gaming. Probably the only system where even if emulation was 100% cycle accurate I would still pay for real hardware.

>> No.5215216

bump

>> No.5215662

>>5212002
huge fan of the x68000. I love it so much I taught myself how to make music for it using MML and translated a bunch of programs from japanese to english (system drivers, music tools, commands etc.).

>>5212208
> knowing this little about the x68000
congratulations!

>> No.5215664

I'd kill for a case to build a real PC in

>> No.5215673

>>5215662
>denfending smutty eroges
You need to get into nofap.

>> No.5215675

Suppose I were to buy one of these things. What's the best way to avoid paying for overpriced and failure-prone floppy disk games? I know with other retro PCs, Gotek floppy emulators with custom firmware are the way to go. Is there something similar for the X68000?

>> No.5215676 [DELETED] 

>>5215673
looks like jewish tricks to me. no thanks, jew.

>> No.5215695

>>5212208
>>5212229
>>5215673
The Sharp X68000 is NOT a hardware revision of the PC98.

>> No.5215737

>>5215695
people on this board are so stupid they have no idea what they're talking about. months ago I saw a retard here write:
> neo-geo has a lot of arcade ports to it
this is the level we're working at here. a board full of low IQ simpletons that barely know how to use google.

>> No.5215741

>>5212208
Enjoy being laughed at for being underage and ignorant

>> No.5215742

>>5215695
Exactly! The X68000 was the computer for shitty generic shmups, not eroge!

>> No.5215743

>>5215695
>>5215741
>>5215742
Nice revisionism. What youtuber sent you?

>> No.5215746 [DELETED] 

It was good at arcade ports, but you don't really this ability today when you can just play them on MAME.

>> No.5215749

It was good at arcade ports, but you don't really need this ability today when you can just play them on MAME.

>> No.5215753

>>5212002
Neat, it's a JPC thread. I loves me a good round of "Suppa Kawaii Schoolgirl Panty Quest IV".

>> No.5215769

>>5215749
> it was good at arcade ports
the cps arcade board was based on the x68000. a game that worked on cps would work on an x68000 with a bit of modification. that's why this machine got near pixel perfect ports from their cps brother. not to mention a shitload of arcade games were developed using the x68000. using mame or the x68000.. not a great deal difference in a lot of instances.

>> No.5215774

>>5215743
> i got btfo and know absolutely nothing about japanese computers
color me shocked. really surprising. on /vr/ of all boards. kek.

>> No.5215782

>>5215774
Back to /reddit/ with you.

>> No.5215802

>>5215742
You mean the PCE?

>> No.5215838

>>5215782
> everyone is from reddit!
> everyone is from /pol/ !
top kek. btfo on /vr/. my fucking sides.

>> No.5215962

I understand these things weight a fucking ton (X68k), and they're getting rarer I think? How much would a working unit cost nowadays to get stateside if I had my friend ship it to me?

Probably a sour comment anyway, because I think everyone wants one of these. I think these will become rarer for JP computer fans and they'll start to become pieces in your average mancave. One thing I hate to see is some of these youtubers showing theirs off, and instead of playing interesting doujin software or something, they inevitably play Capcom ports and games they could find on pretty much any other platform.

>> No.5215980

>>5215769
>>the cps arcade board was based on the x68000.
Is there a real (i.e. Japanese) source for that? I get the impression that somebody didn't understand the difference between m68k and x68k.

>> No.5216398

>>5215802
They had pretty similar libraries when you think about it. Some arcade ports, some dating sims and RPGs, a Castlevania game, and an enormous mountain of low-effort shmups.

>> No.5216406

lol when did /vr/ become so toxic and edgy?


ontopic: used to have a X68000 but refurbishing was hell so I sold it.

still got an FM Towns UX though.

>> No.5216447

>>5216406
>lol when did /vr/ become so toxic and edgy?
It always was. This board has a huge number of shitposters actively trying to turn it into /v/.

>> No.5216463

>>5216406
/vr/ is really bad at discussing computers, especially ones Americans didn't have. That's just the way it's always been.

>> No.5217021

>>5215782
Wait, that phrase isn't filtered anymore?

>> No.5217024

>>5216463
I'm pretty sure most of the butthurt comes from Yuropeans who hate coming to grips with the fact that nearly every important development in computer gaming before about 1993 came from the US and they had nothing but shovelware made on a $30 budget.

>> No.5217039

>>5217024
It's painful to watch them unironically defending Spectrum games. The Japanese are not any better with their endless porno visual novels.

>> No.5217041

I know, right?

Text adventure: US
CRPG: US
Space shooter: US
Single screen platformer: US
Scrolling platformer: Japan
Graphical adventure: US
Flight simulator: US
Strategy/war sim: US
RTS: US
FPS: US

What exactly did Europeans even invent anyway?

>> No.5217042

>>5217024
I'm American myself, and I wish we could have decent Amiga/Atari/PC-98/X68k threads here but it just seems impossible with people like you shitposting them into oblivion.

>> No.5217048

Besides, the Amiga was designed by Americans anyway.

>> No.5217050

>>5217048
And the PC Engine ran DOS.

>> No.5217053

>>5217050
Idiot.

>> No.5217059

>>5217053
But it did you stupid zoomer, it's the reason why Rusty was ported over so easily.

>> No.5217061

So what are some good doujin games for the X68000, anyway? The only one I know is Cho Ren Sha.

>> No.5217069

>>5217059
Wanna know how I know you've never even seen a PC Engine, let alone used one?

>> No.5217072

>>5217061


several friends of me got X68ks.

there are a dozen other good shooters.


need to check the names again.

>> No.5217084

>>5217069
If I wanted porn I have the internet for that, no need to buy obsolete hardware.

>> No.5217096

A certain degree of smuggery is in order when I looked through the Lemon64 Top 100 Games list and realized that around 60 of the games were NTSC titles.

>> No.5217102

>>5217096
Fuck's sake they consider Last Ninja 2 a top 5

>> No.5217115

>>5217096
>>5217102
Cool. Bring it up in a C64 thread then.

>> No.5217117

>>5217084


lol official porn on the PCE?

you know shit boy.

>> No.5217121

>>5217117
The hardware was so garbage the only thing they could use it for was visual novels. Why read walls of text when you just wanna jack off to anime is beyond me.

>> No.5217124

>>5217115
There's none on the board at the moment.

>> No.5217127

>>5217121
Makes sense that you'd hate reading, given how you apparently can't do even the most basic of research about the PC Engine before shitposting about it.

>> No.5217130

>>5217127
I can do ad hominem too, and you are a compulsive masturbation weeabo who looks at porn as a substitute for real life connections.

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5217132

>>5216398
I love the 2151 version of Akumajō Dracula's soundtrack, and I don't even have a Sharp x68000 :p

>> No.5217135

>>5217127


maybe he looked up the PC-FX after watching some YouTube retro crap video...


that might be a understandable mistake considering his limited capabilities...

>> No.5217137

>>5217132
*ym2151 version whoops

>> No.5217139

>>5217132


used to own it - a good game but still quite expensive...

>> No.5217141

>>5212207
Old anime (styles) just looks better than new anime (styles) to me, especially in games :3

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5217147

>>5215673
No see, anon said
> knowing this little about the x68000
because he's assuming you're actually retarded enough to think that's all the x68000 was used for.

But, this is 4chan, so you're at least 50% likely to be a troll.

>> No.5217150

>>5217147


the other 50% him being an edgy teenager who watched AVGN and MetalJesus in order to get in retro...

>> No.5217162

>old and expensive Japanese home computer made even more expensive by vapid e-celebs who can't even speak a word of Japanese
Great system, but I'll just emulate it.

>> No.5217163

>>5217162
>by vapid e-celebs who can't even speak a word of Japanese


there are such YouTubers? who try to talk about the systems?

>> No.5217164

>>5217162
>home computer
Nobody had X68000s at home, dude. Not at that price tag. You generally only saw the things at universities.

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>>5217163
yes

>> No.5217179

>>5217173


ok...besides Luke.

did he manage to get back his family?

>> No.5217182

>>5217164
Universities were mostly dominated by the FM Towns as far as I'm aware. X68000s were bought more by rich enthusiasts and companies using them as graphics workstations. But yeah, calling them "home computers" isn't terribly accurate.

>> No.5217184

>>5215673
>what are arcade perfect ports of numerous CPS1 titles and the definitive R-Type port
Eat shit Nintoddler.

>> No.5217185

>>5215743
Nice projecting

>> No.5217191

>>5217184
You can just play those on MAME though.

>> No.5217192

>>5217182
might as well call the neo geo aes not a home console

>> No.5217193
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5217193

>>5217164
Looking over the list of releases (which commenters above have pointed out we’re low effort conversions due to its hardware) I’d guess it’s home users sales were less than the Neo AES. Japanese salaries were still high in the early 90’s.

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5217194

>>5217179

>> No.5217195

In either case, the MSX was just about the only home/consumer computer in Japan in the 80s. Computer hardware was horribly expensive and shoebox-sized Japanese homes didn't have a lot of space for a computer setup.

>> No.5217196

>>5217191
Then why own anything if it can just be emulated?

>> No.5217205
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5217205

>>5217196
Your asking a dangerous question young man.

>> No.5217209

>>5217205
Why spend $8,000,000 for Hagane or Shinrei Jusatsushi Taromaru when I can just play it with filters?

>> No.5217210

>>5217195
The PC-88 was the other main contender. More expensive than the MSX but still affordable enough that a lot of people had them.

>> No.5217213

>>5217194


haha Game Sack - need to check out the video.

>> No.5217215

I don't think being a premium product stops the 68k from being a home computer.
Do you guys consider the Acorn Archimedes not a home computer because nobody bought one?

>> No.5217216

>>5217184
>arcade perfect
Wrong, Final Fight doesn't have as many enemies on the X68

>> No.5217220

>>5217215
Acorn mostly sold machines to the educational market.

>> No.5217234

>>5217215
I don't think it necessarily makes sense to *classify* them as home computers, even if some home users did buy them. It was marketed (and priced) as a workstation.

>> No.5217264

>>5217150
Heh heh.

I mean, I myself used to watch AVGN, but only because he made my sides leave me. It was probably not the best thing for me to watch considering I wasn't _even_ a teen.

Although, before I watched AVGN, I had a GBA and played old abandonware DOS games and freeware games on my family's computer, and later my grandma gave me her NES and SNES, so I was already DEEP into retro games before I could even multiply and divide ^-^

>> No.5217275

>>5217264
Well that and his criticisms of the bad side of retro games _is_ genuinely funny. Still swears too much lmao (although, he _is_ called the "Angry" Video Game Nerd)

>> No.5217320

>>5217264
haha XD that's like so totally cool <(^.^<)

>> No.5217338

>>5217264
The technical aspects of the games are sometimes more fun than the games themselves.

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5217420

>>5217320
Nigga u wot

>> No.5217603

>>5217210
X1 and FM-7 as well but they didn't offer much over the PC-8801 Mk2 SR and successors.
Sharp also had the MZ-series from a different division than the X-series but that mainly fractured their own install base.

>> No.5217658

>>5217041
jetsetwillyvanias

>> No.5217663

if it wasn't a home computer who was fapping at work?

>> No.5218447

>>5217042
pc98 and x68k threads would be fine without the butthurt euros. No one gives a shit about atari.

>> No.5218468

>>5218447
EOPs are the real problem.

>> No.5218635

>>5215962
There are a lot on auction on yahoo japan, the really expensive ones are the x68030's, these are highly sought but you can buy a x68000, which plays like 99% of the games just fine. The problems are:

1º) Weight a ton and takes a lot of packaging, both things make shipping expensive.
2º)Unless you are buying a refurbished one you are going to need to recap the boards, maybe the floppy drives too, and replace the battery.

3º) Do the psu mod, japanese power supplies are notoriously unreliable so you 'll need to replace it with a normal ATX psu or a pico psu.

3º)Unless you import yours with the monitor you are going to need a multisync monitor that supports 15khz (also 24khz but only a handful of titles uses this sync so you can very much live without it) or an OSSC (don't use a frameister with this you can fry it), you can use 31khz but a lot of arcade ports are not going to work.

4º)The base models only have 1mb of RAM and came with SASI ports, these computers are cheap but you'll need to hunt for memory expansion boards (at least 6mb to be on the safe side, buy you can work with 4) and make your own adapter cable to hook up scsi sd adapter (must have, you cannot rely on the floppy drives). If you can buy a model with 2mb of ram and scsi port (expert and upwards).

>> No.5218640

>>5215980
>I get the impression that somebody didn't understand the difference between m68k and x68k.
I get the impression that you're an illiterate and fat ameritard that has no fucking idea how to use a search engine and knows absolutely fucking nothing about computers.

http://arcadehacker.blogspot.com/2015/05/capcom-cps1-part-2.html
read it, dickhead.

>> No.5218642

>>5216463
no, you're mistaken. Americans know NOTHING about any computers from Japan. That is why every time there is a thread about Japanese computers, all these retard Americans arrive with not a single clue about how they work, what they ran, what they were used for. It ends up being a retard convention because Americans are 100% illiterate and can't google or research before opening up their fat mouths or before mashing the keyboards with their obese cheeto encrusted palms.

>> No.5218643

>>5218635
Why are the 68030's expensive? I thought they broke compatibility with a lot of games.

>> No.5218649

>>5218643
>I thought they broke compatibility with a lot of games.
nope.

>> No.5218650

>>5218643

They are smaller, use the more normal 3.5" drives and is like twice as powerful as the base models.

But like I said, I've got a vanilla ace with 6mb of ram and the only games that really struggle are mahou daisakusen and illumination laser. The rest work fine

>> No.5218651

>>5218642
>>5217194

>> No.5218656

>>5218651
I can't read lips, faggot. link to video or gtfo.

>> No.5218660

>>5218656
that's not the point idiot. x68k is so mainstream that you can find plenty of generic youtubers doing videos on it now. And guess who watches those and then posts in x68k threads here?

>> No.5218662

>>5217192
They tried to sell it as a high end home computer/home arcade machi, the first models even had gradius bundled with the software.

>> No.5218826

>>5212002
what's the best model to own?

68030 is fastest but there are rumors of compatibility issues?

>> No.5218901

>>5218640
That's just the bullshit I'm talking about. Pure English fantasy, no actual sources to back it up. The images downright discredit it since the computers shown are all NEC.

>> No.5219024

>>5218650
I have an XVI which can swap between two processor speeds for maximum compatibility. Back when I was researching the system a few years ago I remember reading the 68030 made several older games run too fast, and there was only 1 or 2 that actually benefited from its extra processing power.

>> No.5219039

>>5218635
>maybe the floppy drives too
I was going to say replace them with a Gotek, but a lot of JPCs don't conform to the 34 pin standard.

>> No.5219062

>>5218642
>no, you're mistaken. Americans know NOTHING about any computers from Japan
I had a Toshiba laptop when I was a kid.

>> No.5219096

>>5219039
The real problem is that a lot of people don't conform to being able to use wires

>> No.5219106

>>5217050
you mean PC-98?

PC engine is a console dude. it's like a genesis or nes

>> No.5219173

>>5219096
Dude wut.

>> No.5219175

>>5219106
Whatever, weabo.

>> No.5219186

>>5219173
Never mind, I've gone about 16 hours without sleep.

>> No.5219226

>>5219175
Couldn’t even spell weaboo right, lol

>> No.5219235

>>5219226
Couldn’t even spell weeaboo right, lol

>> No.5219246

>>5219226
Whatever weebo.

>> No.5219290

I'd rather just emulate it if I really wanted to play old eroges that badly.

>> No.5219771

>>5219039
I've got a hxc and most of the floppy images doesn't work for that, I can boot some games but things like the master disks won't due to the hxc not supporting the weird signals without a custom board between the hxc and the computer to generate the signals .

Thank God there's an emulator working on arduinos that can emulate the whole lot, fdx86.

Also there's a guy on nffgames building a pcb that emulate the signals.

The floppy drives are the x68k Achilles heel, they are weird and scarce and the machine won't boot without one plugged so it's almost impossible to find replacements unlike with the Amiga and Atari.

I only want to be able to boot the masterdisk for recovery, that's all I need.

>> No.5219776

>>5219290
This. You can pay for a hooker for a fraction of the price you'd waste on this thing.

>> No.5219792

>>5219771
No worse really than on classic Macs which also use a nonstandard floppy type, but the Apple CFFA emulates it (for a price).

>> No.5219798

>>5219792
It's way easier to find Mac floppy drives than the variant used in the X68000 and Macs have tech documentation that doesn't require some dedicated autist to translate it from moonrunes.

>> No.5220039

>>5219771
>weird signals
It's a couple wires with very simple signaling. Unfortunately most weebs are even simpler minded.

>> No.5220201

>>5218901
> a mislabelled picture is debunking
> a picture that says nothing about systems used is debunking
> if it's not in japanese, it must be wrong
american retardation, everyone. capcom used pc98's and x68000 for development, you fucking retard. It's clear in that picture of the musician that he's using a pc9801. and yes, the cps-1 is based on the x68000. Instead of crying like a faggot for being btfo, maybe you should try and prove anon wrong? what is the cps-1 based on then? we'll wait while your genius mind gets to work. KEK. It appears the rest of the world knows what the cps system was based on except you? my sides. prove us all wrong, faggot.

>> No.5220202

>>5217050
> PC Engine ran DOS
you're more retarded that this >>5218901 complete fucking moron.

>> No.5220205

>>5218660
> x68k is so mainstream
new games made by westerners for x68k: 0
new demos made by westerners for x68k: 0
new applications made by westerners for x68k: 0
new music made by westerners for x68k: 0
oh yeah, mainstream. so mainstream.. top kek.

>> No.5220208

it's great to see americans showing the world how little they know about japanese computers as per usual. awesome work, amerilards.

>> No.5220264

>>5220201
If we're talking about Japanese systems then non-Japanese sources are worthless and that page is worthless even beyond that.
CPS is s a product of its time when many other arcade companies were also moving to 68000 based boards, several of which came out before Sharp like Sega's System 16. There's no particular reason for them to be based on anything. Capcom themselves had used the 68000 for games like Street Fighter or Top Secret.

>> No.5220314

>>5220264
> worthless beyond that
> can't find any evidence to suggest cps isn't based on x68000
> knowing this little about arcade hardware
apart from cps having a z80, the hardware is nearly identical. cps supports more sprites, but the same amount of sprites can be displayed on the x68000 using multiplexing. let us know when you find anything to suggest cps is NOT based on the x68000. we're still waiting.

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5220427

>>5220264
>any gaijin source of information is worthless
>only enlightened, 100% nippon sources are valid with me arigatou gozaimasu~

>> No.5222084

>>5220208
>it's great to see americans showing the world how little they know about japanese computers as per usual. awesome work, amerilards.

it's always konami that attracts the americans to the weeb systems. without fail it's the number 1 reason

PC Engine= Rondo of Blood
MSX= Metal Gear
X68K = Castlevania X68K

>> No.5222353

>>5218635
Thank you kind anon.

>> No.5222568

>>5218635


I used to have a Micomsoft XPC-4 for newer LCD displays.

>> No.5222575

>a thread about x68k with 132 replies
Oh yeah
>it's a 132 shitposts
Oh no

>> No.5222580

>>5222575
At least it's not 132 VN screencaps.

>> No.5222625

>>5222580
Thats would be better

>> No.5222627

>>5222575
The sad thing is there's maybe probably three people trying to talk about the computer and just one moron shitposting and samefagging non-stop.

>>5222568

XPC4 is literally the best scaler for a 68k after their own monitor.

>> No.5222632

>>5222580
>and one more shitpost
Oh boy.

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5222768

I swear to the Emperor if another one of you damned gaijins says something incorrect about the X68000 I will SLAY you

>> No.5222776

>>5217194
Why does he hand him Snatcher at the end?

>> No.5223376

Fuck people who use MIDI instead of internal

>> No.5223389

>>5222768
The X68000 was far worse than the PC98, and the lack of hentai games and over-abundance of arcade ports and strong shooters made it a terrible platform

couldn't say that with a straight face, the pc98 sucks dick

>> No.5223407

>>5222776
i guess we'll never know

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5223417

>>5223389
>not liking both

>> No.5223818

>>5217163
Game Sack has a video on the x68k with over 500,000 views

anecdotal, but at least one person on NeoGaf bought an x68k after watching this video

good people but the exposure has definitely made prices go up

>> No.5223827

>>5223818
Oh shit I wish I could see his face when highly problematic anime tiddies popped up on the screen.

>> No.5223841

>>5212208
JPCs aren't that great as far as the actual games, it's mostly weebs/hipsters who think the usual Western stuff like DOS games or C64 or Amiga is so common and been-there-done-that.

>> No.5223842

>>5223818
my god. is nothing sacred? Now I understand the appeal of shitty euro computers. They will remain pure.

>> No.5223941

>>5212002
I have one but it's getting really hard to find good games for it, even in Japan. People threw all their X68k stuff out years ago and the prices of what's left are reaching outrageous levels, even in Akiba

>> No.5224034

I feel this needs to be said.

lol EOPs, don't be one

>> No.5224071

>>5223941
Japanese are not very good at preservation of stuff compared to Westerners. They take a much more disposable view of everything.

>> No.5224085

>>5224071
then why are they still using old shit technology?

>> No.5224090

>>5224085
I wish, reality is much worse, they use overpriced
Apple products

>> No.5224091

>>5224071
Did some kid on youtube tell you that or did you pull that out of your own underage ass?

>> No.5224103

Probably doesn't help that Japan never had a solid home computer tradition and most people only ever used them at work or school.

>> No.5224126

>>5224090
That's not true at all. These people use tiny little televisions manufactured 25 years ago.

>t. been to tokyo

>> No.5224156

>>5224091
He's right, because japanese houses are TINY with very little room for storage the yerrow insects tent to throw all of their old shit away or sell online for pennies.

>> No.5224157

>>5224126
I was talking of cellphones and pcs, nips love Apple products. Also I don't think they broadcast analogue VHF TV signals anymore in Japan so you're full of shit.

>> No.5224159

>>5224157
Nah, they had shit hooked up to them, like VCR players and shit. Old video game systems. I'm basing this on my experience of the Golden Gai in Tokyo. I'm not sure if that's the totality of Japan but it certainly was the case there.

>> No.5224273

>>5224156
I was going to say you're right, but Eurocomputers like the Zedd Exx Spectrum have a huge retro/collector community and European homes aren't that spacious either.

>> No.5224276

It's less true since the 90s when automobile manufacturing is more globalized, but in the 70s-80s, Japanese cars were notorious for not having any tech or repair manuals since they usually just junked a car when it broke down and didn't bother repairing it.

>> No.5224279

>>5224276
So which is it? Do they always stick with obsolete technology or are they constantly buying newer stuff for the sake of novelty? You can't have both.

>> No.5224324

>>5217041
Another World

>> No.5224339

>>5224126
Everyone has a fucking iPhone.

>t. lived in Tokyo and now lives elsewhere in Japan

>> No.5224372

>>5224156
>ignorance and kidlogic
So do people buy the shit for pennies and then throw it away? Why can I still find immaculate CIB famicoms? Shouldn't they be be covered in garbage from the dump? Have you ever had an original thought or experience in you're life or is it 100% parroting?

>> No.5224379

>>5215675
Doesn't the X68000 use standard 5 1/4 disks? If so you could probably just build an old DOS/Win95 era PC with a 5 1/4 drive and buy some blank floppies to write disk images to.

>> No.5224383

>>5224372
If they throw shit away after using why would it be mint in box? Anyway finding consoles is easy, any retard could do it, the matter is finding games.

>> No.5224470 [DELETED] 

>>5224379
Is this the 90s? We have HxCs now, dude. Besides, any 5.25" disks you'd find would be at least 25 years old.

>> No.5224479 [DELETED] 

>>5224379
Is this the 90s? We have HxCs now, dude. Besides, any 5.25" disks you'd find would be at least 25 years old. That aside, I couldn't tell what the X68000's disk format is like or if it's something that's even readable on a PC.

>> No.5224486

>>5212002

I'm not interested in playing games on that. Like the Amiga, the system had a lot of serious applications, like graphics software and music composers, but good luck finding that stuff today complete with the documentation.

>> No.5224490

>>5224379
>>5224379
Is this the 90s? We have HxCs now, dude. Besides, any 5.25" disks you'd find would be at least 25 years old. That aside, I couldn't tell you what the X68000's disk format is like or if it's something that's even readable on a PC. The drives were not electrically compatible with the 34-pin standard, so it's not at all unlikely that the disk format is also some weird proprietary shit.

>> No.5224493

>>5224486
>thinking obsolete versions of photoshop and paintbrush is gonna magically improve your art

>> No.5224542

>>5224493
There are no versions of PS or PP on X68k, brainlet. I already have these on older X86 systems.

Also, being this buttblasted is hilarious

>> No.5224642

>>5224383
Clearly you have reading and other types of comprehension problems. So now they only throw away the games not the consoles? Keep flailing and failing fucktard.

>> No.5224678

>>5224642
No you retard, try to keep up.

>> No.5224680

>>5224542
No really, why would you use slow glitchy ass paintbrush on x68k like, ever? It's not gonna magically turn your art 90s style.

>> No.5224701

>>5224680
No need, I was a 90s artist. Actually started in '88 on the Amiga.

>> No.5224708

>>5224701
And your skills never evolved past that? Wow. You're an eternal child.

>> No.5224731

>>5224708
Of course they did. You have to constantly learn and update your skills in that field. After 20 something years I just can afford to blow 30k a year on whatever I want, so I collect old software and hardware. Boxed and complete only. I even have my two old SGI workstations from 1995 up and running again.

>> No.5224742

>>5224731
Whatever kiddo no matter how archaic and obsolete your tools are you won't ever be able to produce legit 90s art again. Your work may be considered retro throwbacks at best. Poor imitations at worse.

>> No.5224763

>>5224339
>Everyone has a fucking iPhone.
that's supposed to prove they are somehow up to date on technology? Maybe fashion.

>> No.5224768

>>5224763
didn't they still use nokia flipphones

>> No.5224819

>>5224383
In my experience the games are no more expensive than they were 4 years ago when I last looked, but even then they were pricey.

>> No.5224846

>>5224742
Why are you so mad? :) Also, I'm probably older than you.

>> No.5224863

>>5224846
>I'm probably older than you.
You should probably stop typing like a teenager then.

>> No.5224896

>>5224071
>Japanese are not very good at preservation of stuff compared to Westerners. They take a much more disposable view of everything

This is the most retarded thing i've read all day,Japan is one of the few countries that tries to preserve everything.

>> No.5225027

>>5224896


it depends on the stuff I'd say.

>> No.5225468

>>5224896
>Japan is one of the few countries that tries to preserve everything.

the Japan Game Preservation Society is literally run by a Frenchman, lol

>> No.5225492

>>5225468
The Japs have their priorities right. Nobody cares about retro stuff in Japan besides some nerds.

>> No.5225528

>>5217658
i understood that reference

but the real title would be

superwillylicker

a portmanteau of

super metroid
jetset willy
AND wall lickers

so yeh let them forever be known as

super willy lickers

>> No.5225618

>>5225468
If you are American you shouldn't talk about preservation ever

>> No.5225729

>>5225528
you're just as bad as the "scotformer" guy

>> No.5226014

People have gone so far as to do decaps of POKEY/ANTIC chips to understand how they work so they could be recreated accurately someday. Nobody in Japan to my knowledge has ever done same with JPC components.

>> No.5226086

>>5224678
>i failed
>maybe if i call someone else a retard i'll feel better about myself
lel

>> No.5226595

>>5225618
why? they're really good about preserving their body fat.

>> No.5226826

What are some resources for playing multi load games on x68k hardware without disk swapping?

>> No.5226863

>>5224768
Japanese flipphones were the smartphones before smartphones

>> No.5226887

>>5222776
A running joke in GameSack (which is what the clip comes from) is that Dave (the one without hair) keeps stealing Joe (the one with the huge mouth)'s copies of Snatcher.

>> No.5228324

>>5226826
Yes, using a sd2scsi as an internal hard disk, if your x68k is a SASI model you are limited to 1gb parititions (2 1gb partitions per disk if you use goverhd, but you'll have to edit the game's bat files to run from the second partition). If it's a SCSI mode or have a SCSI card the partitions can be bigger.

You can install the floppy games on the hd or just use one of the pre-made images from nffgames, they have almost all x68k games available,ready to use.

You are going to need a keyboard, a real one or a normal ps/2-usb with an adapter.

>> No.5228348

>>5228324
>with an adapter.

is it possible to find one or would I need to create my own? any resources would be appreciated!

>> No.5229085

>>5228348
Here:

gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x68000:don_t_have_a_keyboard

I built the gka at68 because I had the components around, only had to buy the Pic controller.

>> No.5231135

>>5212208
^This.

>> No.5231163

I've been obsessed with Bosconian port lately.
Always the original was a bit of a dud compared to classics like Galaga or Galaxian, but this has proved me wrong in a great way.