/vr/ - Retro Games

Looks kinda shit.

>>5201894
Jesus fuck, that is something the world needed far fewer of... Puzzle game reskins.

lol at leaked, the hoarder dude said for months now he would eventually release this. It's probably going to be playable in MAME 0.205 or 06. We shall see by the end of this month.

>>5201903
>reskins

How the hell is this board so fucking retarded. Does that happen to people when they play too many nintendo games?

>>5201908
Not gonna lie this is pretty boring.

>>5201908
Pretty obvious that they came up with a generic puzzle concept then slapped the sonic character on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgHo2FApgMI

>>5201906
It's playable now, just played it this afternoon

>>5201910
I watched the video and didn't even understand the gameplay. Sometimes the block disappear and sometimes they don't? Is it random?

>>5201916
You have to make a loop of pieces, took me a while to get it too.

>>5201908
What? It's the same trash as all those match 3 games on the mobile. Just because it's from the 90's doesn't mean it's good. Fucking hipster kys.

>>5201923
I saw three yellow trigger that were in a angled line.

Tfw this game finally explains where the blue sphere special stage comes from. One of the music tracks is the sonic 3 special stage theme, and you have to surround spheres to make them disappear (although it works with all colors instead of just blue)

This loop mechanic seems a little convoluted, but hard to tell without playing. Anyone have the ROM yet?

>>5201914
Why does that matter?

>>5201914
Nobody is saying the game is particularly good. It was location tested and dropped when people didn't like it. It's just an interesting bit of history.

>>5201963
One touched the bottom and one touched the side

>>5201976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVNcePe_Th4

>>5201963
the sides & bottom count as part of the closed loop.

>>5201995
Thanks a lot my man, a spot is reserved for you in Valhalla

https://youtu.be/XOvvCVcCvmw

>>5202008
Blew my mind when I heard that

>>5201894
This game has a lot of tunes from other Sega games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkNjYKengUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IQYUssLjAs

>>5202008
So is the music originally from there or the other way around?

>>5202014
This was made in 1991

>>5202014
Sonic 3's Special stage came from SegaSonic Bros it seems.

>>5202017
>>5202018
Noice, good to know something was salvaged from the project

>>5202019
Others songs from SegaSonic Bros were used in >>5202013

Plus, a Silver Hedgehog is in it, so technically this is Silver's debut.

>>5202019
The whole surrounding blue spheres concept in sonic 3 came from this

>>5202001

https://youtu.be/3Dy7VUQb780

>>5201995

Thanks anon!!

>>5202008
oh shit love this track

>>5201894
>another Puyo Puyo clone.

Fucking Sega can't get enough of these, huh?

>>5201903

It's certainly no pac attack

>>5202096
>It's certainly no pac attack

pac attack isn't pac attack either, it's cosmo gang puzzle

>>5201976
I guess I'm just a brainlet, but just from watching it seems like a good portion of loops would be formed completely by accident or last second realizations and not primarily through careful planning by the player.

>>5201908
Cry more, this game is a shit reskin no one asked for.

>bitch for hours on end about ROM hoarders
>"Oh look he ISN'T a hoarder and is releasing the ROM"
>now get seemingly angry and bitch about the ROM being released because it isn't good enough instead of being glad that it was released at all
Fucking zoomers.

>>5202220
>everything i read online is a single person
A classic

>>5202186
your mom is cosmo ganged, you puzzle

>>5202203
To be fair that's part of the appeal of these types of games. When you trigger a combo cascade in puyo by accident you can pretend that you're a fucking wizard to your buddies

>>5201894
the fuck
never fucking heard of it and i grew up with sonic

So is the rom online anywhere?

>>5202246

Your mums cunt smells like cat pee :/

>>5202293

Yes.

https://mega.nz/#!IlgD1ILK!wi1hwkLF7NcVqgW-9XptjWSJ2TCqPtLUMrbN6Cql1sg

>>5202231
But they are, though...?

>>5202287
Only found just recently, relatively.

>>5202076
> calls something a clone when it has a completely different mechanic
??

>>5202338
interesting how scrapped the idea of the trio was: Sonic, Ray and Mighty

makes me wonder what happened (they changed it to Tails and Knux)

>>5201906
Why can't all hoarders be as based as that dude?
I mean, this game is kinda shit, but it's the thought that counts.

>>5202367
Why hoard it in the first place?

>>5201914
my ears are bleeding

>>5202367
>based
didn't he have it for fucking years?

>>5202370
Because he bought it and can do what he wants with it.
>>5202381
Be thankful he shared it at all.

>>5202393
Epic falseflag, bro.

>>5202370
>>5202381
Okay, not really based, but at least he released it eventually.

>>5202397
Epic being a retard, bro. Tell me one thing I said that is in anyway incorrect. I don't know what he spent on it, but I'm sure it was at least a couple thousand.

>>5202381

>>5202406
Wow a few thousand dollars. That's like a whole paycheck. Probably a lot to an unemployed manchild like you.

>>5202409
Then why don't you buy things and dump them if it's no big deal? Because you're a larping child.

>>5202408
Based Guru

>>5202408

>>5202413
Because fatty fat fucks don't sell their precious hoarded treasure. They let it sit in their moldy, piss soaked basements for years or decades until they die or are forced to sell it by their mothers.

>>5202408
>>5202417
That man is the MVP

>>5202417
Hoarders truly are dogshit in vaguely human skin.

>>5202417
What an asshole to try to use scare tactics

>>5202408
Yeah I mean it's a piece of history and the Sonic community is crazy autistic, but still... it's just a shitty puzzle game with a Sonic skin. And the art is pretty bad, sorta DeviantART levels of bad.

Was it really worth the trouble?

>>5202447
There wouldn't have been trouble if the fat fuck had just dumped it when he first got his mustard stained hands on it.

>>5202447
It's a missing piece that was made before Sonic 2, it was very important that this was released to the public and Sonic fans in general. So yes, it was worth it.

>>5201906
>>5202367
>>5202370
>>5202393
>>5202381
>>5202397
>>5202406
>>5202421
>>5202451
Reminder that this particular hoarder still has Taito's Vertexer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-lVyYtkgRY

>>5202451
Quit being such an insufferable baby about it and contribute something if it matters so much to you.

>>5202421
shoutime has released games like this before though
i'm pretty sure he doesn't upload every game immediately because it would jeopardize the connections he has to people in the industry that allow him to acquire these games in the first place (from japanese companies who will never release them to the public)

>>5202545
then why does he announce that he has a game to the public? just release stuff anonymously

>>5202545
I'd say there's a decent chance that some of the story of another being found and threats being made are a bullshit cover story.

>>5202548
Build hype, show it to people so they can see what it's like before getting to play it. Some of this stuff gets more attention as unplayable, mysterious relics than as ROMs you can download and play at will. Like Sim City NES has a lot of hype behind it, but having seen it in person and playing it for a brief time, I highly doubt that most people are going to spend hours upon hours getting hyped over playing it once they're able to freely download it. It is awesome to have this stuff preserved and I am very grateful for everyone who contributes to game preservation, but chances are any hype around this Sonic game will be quickly forgotten and be little more than a novelty that some people will play on MAME for half an hour.

>>5202548
Because Japan is notoriously strict about leaking anything to the public without permission, because of copyrights and IPs and whatnot. If an incredibly rare game gets leaked, the anonymous developer who originally handed it off to a collector could get paranoid that the paper trail could lead back to them and their old employers could come knocking at their door with a lawsuit.

>>5202548
well, in his own words because people didn't even know about the game. he said he plans on releasing everything he has, japs are just really strict and political about this kind of shit and if he does it without people's permission he could get locked out.

>>5202591
yeah possibly, dunno

Looking at the "specially modified version" of MAME used to play this, all they did was add ssonicbr(this game) to the Sega C/C2 systems. Which means no special hardware needs to be coded to make this work, which means we will most likely see this appear in 0.205. Pic related was all the new code that was added in to make the game work. Literally hooking up inputs and dip switches, telling MAME what the roms look like, and adding the game to the database.

>>5202647
of course. MAME needs to be modified to add support for even a single game, but it has System C support already. nobody was claiming it was a huge amount of modification.

>>5202653
I'm just glad it's a standard system and not some specialty shit requiring decapping.

can anyone please upload a rebuilt mame build?

>Hoarder trying to use mafia shakedown tactics over a 27 year old puzzle game

These fucks are hilarious

>>5201897
>>5201903
>>5201942
>>5202212
>>5202220
I know what you're doing, please stop.

>>5202794
I don't know why people are crying "RESKIN" when it clearly doesn't play like any other puzzle game I've seen, has anyone actually seen the game in action or just assume it's a puyo puyo clone?

>>5202819
It's an obvious reskin because the gameplay doesn't integrate any Sonic elements whatsoever. At least Panic Bomber and Pac Attack were puzzle games that related IP franchise elements into the puzzle.

>>5202762
what hoarder?

>>5202823
reskin of what? I've never seen any other game that requires trapping spheres of one color to make them disappear (aside from sonic 3 of course, but that came later)

>>5202823
And what the fuck is it a reskin of? Look at the god damn gameplay anon. It's a queer ass puzzle game that I've never seen anything else play like

>>5202828
Reskin in the sense they picked an unrelated tetris game and slapped the sonic character and backgrounds on it. Use your brain, zoomer faggot.

Hoarder faggot has a mental breakdown: the thread.

>>5202824
ShouTime

>>5202832
It doesn't play like tetris at all

That's another game liberated. What else is still being hoarded?

>>5202851
NES Sim City

>>5202823
>the gameplay doesn't integrate any Sonic elements whatsoever.
Blue Sphere

>>5202883
You're seeing connections where there is none. Quite autistic really, as expected of Sonic fans.

>>5202883
>>5202886
They were obviously trying to make Sonic into a brand, like with that popcorn machine and the kiddie car thing. Who knows, maybe they were desperately trying to make Sonic into a general purpose character like Nintendo did with Mario.

>>5202886
Mate, Blue Sphere's music is literally in the game.
https://youtu.be/XOvvCVcCvmw?list=LLhjXeDUP_yF4e2g2fuQpM8Q
Considering that and the fact that the gimmick of the game is "Surround the Sonic's with a line of a certain color" I wouldn't be too surprised if they loosely recycled this game's gimmick as a feature for Blue Sphere.

>>5202892
It's pretty clear that's what they were doing, especially with stuff like the two part OVA.

>>5202896
Occasionally interesting but doesn't save this game from being better forgotten. Shit sucks.

>>5202904
Yeah, but you were arguing that the game has no connection to the Sonic series and is just a reskin when in fact it not only has unusual gameplay but it uses (or rather inspired) a mechanic from a Special Stage in the series.

>>5202842
> guy who's released a bunch of rare games
> hoarder

ok

>>5202910
You STILL don't understand, this is a generic puzzle they slapped sonic characters on in the lat minute. It's not a Sonic game and never will be.

>>5202914
did you work on it? if not, how do you know they didn't want to make a sonic puzzle game from the start?

>>5202918
You don't need to be a programmer to recognize shit when you see it, sweet zoomer child.

>>5202914
I've said my piece and how this game is connected to the Sonic series. You'd need to make an argument as to why it isn't (unless, say, Dr. Mario is just a generic puzzle game Nintendo slapped Mario on).
It's more of a Sonic game than Sonic Eraser and that actually got released in Japan.

>>5202923
>it's more of a sonic game than the other non-sonic game
I don't have nothing to proof, the game speaks for itself. Trash.

>>5202851
Socks the cat rocks the hill

>>5202925
So, you have no argument then.
Alright buddy.

>>5202921
it being shit doesn't mean they weren't planning on making a sonic game from the start
they put out a bunch of mediocre-to-decent sonic arcade games at this time

>>5202931
Zoomer.

>>5202913
Some posters just love shitting on people who have rare things. Don't dump it? You're a piece of shit. Dump it and share it, but not the day you get it in the mail? You're too slow and therefore a piece of shit. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, and people wonder why some of this shit gets hoarded. Create an encouraging environment for stuff to get shared as opposed to one that aggressively shits all over the people actually in a position to share things.
>>5202914
Look at all the random things they've tossed Mario and company into. Sega was trying the same thing with Sonic. It is a Sonic game, featuring Sonic and Robotnik, and officially made by Sega. It is a Sonic game. Good or bad is debatable, and just because it doesn't feel like it started as Sonic doesn't necessarily mean that it didn't begin development as a Sonic game - and even if it didn't, they obviously made it into one.

>>5202913
Evidence? He's not even the one who released this, it was someone else

>>5202940
On the plus side it's about as terrible as mainstay Sanic games. I bet all the sonic furries are creaming their baby diapers right now.

>>5202942
He's released other games.

>>5202948
It would be nice to see people actually happy about having new-old things getting released and save from time instead of people getting apparently legitimately angry about things getting dumped.

>>5202851
Vertexer

>>5202952
I've been a Sonic fan since it's very beginning, I'm ecstatic about SegaSonic Bros getting released.

>>5202926
Dumped months ago.

>>5202851
PC Cocoron (16-bit remake/quasi-sequel of Cocoron for the PC Engine)

Marble Madness (PC Engine)

>>5202958
You've eaten shit since the beginning.

there is a seething anti-sonicfag, it seems

>>5203003
I don't care what you think.

>>5203005
SoMeOnE HaS GoOd tAsTe tHaT MeAnS He mUsT Be sEeThInG

>>5201894
I don't understand this game

am I a brainlet?

>>5203052
>>5201923

>>5203052
Nah, it's somewhat unintuitive.
rather than matching spheres, you create a "circle" or other entrapment of spheres of the same color. Those spheres, and the ones surrounded by them, will disappear.
If you've played Sonic 3 & Knuckles, think of the Special Stages in that game and how turning all the outer blue spheres red turned them all the spheres in the set into rings.

>>5203058
I see

>>5201894
Where's zelda 64 leak?

>>5203013
whatever you say

>>5203065
The only thing leaking is the catheter bag of the revolting fat fuck who's hoarding it.

>>5203071
Quit mixing your fat dude fetish with your obsession with ROM hoarders. Seek help.

>>5203075
Seek the exit of moms basement.

Not being related to sonic doesn't make it a reskin. It's literally in the fucking word. This game is the first skin you idiot.

>>5202952

I patiently waited for months for this release. Super happy about it. Ignore the sad retards bitching on here.

>>5203130
Retard. Singular since it's one person.

>>5202470
Whoa, the graphics are fantastic!

>>5202896
>blue spheres
that sounds better than every other song in the game by a large margin
there's something fishy going on

>>5203258
Sonic lost weight. Unlike his fans.

>>5202940
>Damned if you do, damned if you don't
You've got the cause and effect backwards.
Hoarders decide to never dump anything they have, and faggots like you defend them because, "it's their thing they should do whatever they want with it and u cant complain!!!", so they build up a reputation of being fat fucking man-children who refuse to share anything, to the point where when they do release something, years after getting it, they get rightfully shit on for generally being hoarding pieces of shit.

>>5203283
>rightfully
I swear to god, you commie fucks are so delusional.

>>5203258
>soul
>soulless
>cursed

>>5202346
Sonic CD, Sonic 2, and presumably SegaSonic the Hedgehog were all in development at the same time. The first Sonic game didn't give him any supporting cast to speak of, so all three games had to come up with their own new characters. Amy and Tails stuck around, but Ray likely got the boot for being too similar to Tails. Mighty did come back for Chaotix, but by the time those guys made the jump to 3D, the very similar-looking Shadow was already a thing. Both characters just ended up victims of circumstance.

>>5203324
With this though, SegaSonic Bros dates before all of that.

>>5202851
Mother 64

>>5201894
Looks like Sonicmas came early this year. Merry Christmas everyone except hoarders

>>5202470
Shoutime has a shit ton of unreleased arcade games that need to be dumped. Sonic Bros was just the tip of the iceburg.

>>5201894
Looks fun

>>5201982
I would say that historical games are ones that actually had an effect on the game industry, not something that virtually nobody played and was effective unknown until manchildren screeched about it on YouTube. Making a big deal out of preserving something like this is basically just hoarding trash.

>>5202851
marble madness 2

>>5203220
The going from the sky to underwater part was really awesome looking for all sprites. I bet it would be fun to play in one of those moving cabinets.

>>5203708
It was a previous unknown that we found out just a few days ago actually had a bigger influence than we thought. Stuff from music, to gameplay mechanics, to complimentary color design.

>>5203708
I'd argue that a game created by a formerly huge game developer based on what is objectively one of gaming's most iconic and recognizable characters is certainly worth preserving. Is it "historical?" Maybe not, but pretending that it is on par with Little Jimmy's First Scrapped Unity Project in terms of preservation worth is just disingenuous.

>>5202470
I really, really want it.

The game apparently started as a Mega Drive game, and might be portable.
https://twitter.com/DustinOfcYT/status/1071169226465927168

>>5206427
MIGHT have, it MIGHT have started as a MD game. But that could just be because the System C/C2 hardware is very similar to the MD, in that C/C2 is basically an upgraded MD. See here:
https://segaretro.org/Sega_System_C

some more evidence

>>5208092
comfy palmtrees

>>5203708
Making a game and scrapping it affects the psyche of people that wasted time working on it, so I'd say that it shows in how it affected the industry and helped shape the quality of games that come after it due to lost man hours and patience.
>>5203872
If Lil Jimmy gets to join Sega one day, you'd ironically be dashing to preserve every ounce of everything he did, even posters with his ugly face on it like the rest of this idiotic board.

>>5206427
Definitely could work as a Genesis game and it uses assets from Sonic 1 like backgrounds, lava, etc.

NOOOO MY 10000$ BOARD IS NOW WORTHLESS

delete this delete this delete this DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>5206427
That's nice to know, too bad the guy porting it seems like an asshole

>>5210303
The guy who has it (or one of the ones who does) estimates the value at $5k, so I assume that is what he paid for it.

>>5212568
Assholes can still do good things.