/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5188271
>Friendly reminder that you will immediately cease and not continue to access the site

Top-middle looks best.

>>5188271
Who gives a shit

>>5188271
Top middle or right middle is how I remember it.

>>5188294
This
Just play the fucking game

>>5188271
what are the top six supposed to be from? which is the "original" one? i want to participate in this thread but youre making it hard

>>5188271
OMFG!! I'm color blind!!!!!

>>5188271
Only 3 of the shots are labeled. Care to fill us in on what you're sperging about?

>>5188271
>objectively

god damn it! all this time I had thought that I had thoroughly enjoyed and beaten this game multiple times, but it turns out I wasn't even playing the game as it was intended to be played.

my life is a lie

>>5188271
Super Mario Bros. fucking sucks.

>>5188271
>be me
>tasked to create a cheap machine able to run Donkey Kong for the general consumer
>design Picture Processing Unit in a way that it uses the weird ass NTSC luma-chroma system for its image generator palette instead of absolute RGB values
>trigger sperg gamers and autists until the end times

エイー・リマオ

What palettes do you guys recommend for the nes rgb mod?

>>5188691
Wavebeam is my favorite. Good balance between authenticity and being aesthetically pleasing.

>>5188696
Any idea how it looks on a pvm?

>>5188703
No, but since it was developed primarily with CRTs in mind, it's probably pretty good.

>>5188710
Thanks.

>>5188294
>>5188307
Disgusting zoomer posts. We know you don't care about presentation and have 1gb of roms on your android phone with all your emulators. Some of us care about representing the artist's intent accurately.

>>5188745
It's funny how you find some kid enjoying old video games on his phone more pathetic than a bunch of old retards obsessing over the SMB sky for threads upon threads on a Taiwanese Olympic skiing enthusiast forum.

I don't have enough time left in my life to recreate your specific childhood experience of SMB. I'll play it however the fuck I want. I'll play it on a Retron 5 hooked up to an 240hz LCD stretched to 16:9 with motion smoothing, I'll play it on a DS with nearest neighbor scaling and 3x frameskip, I'll change the palette myself so every single color is a shade of Shrek green, and I'l still have more fun with it than you because I'm playing video games and you're obsessively tweaking the graphics so that the sky is the right shade of mauve.

>>5188271
what's the frame of reference here? why would the sky be purple instead of, you know, the actual color of the sky irl?

>>5188271

>imagine being this autistic

>>5188853
Wavebeam gets my vote.

>>5188634

>>5188885
It's ok to be wrong.

>>5188825
Video games are not real life. It's a crude, abstract imitation at best. The sky is also not one shade of any color.

>>5188952
sure but...it's the sky. my point is what makes you think it's supposed to be purple when it's most likely blue?

>>5188271
>Friendly reminder that caring this much about the colors on an 8 bit video game console is the definition of Asperger's.

>>5188961
>Shigeru Miyamoto

>>5188982
uhh interesting, but the purple-ness was only a compromise. he wanted blue. so if anything, the off-color versions are actually more accurate to dev intentions

>>5189001
How could you possibly interperet it that way? It literally says the opposite

>>5189008
he wanted the game to be about characters running around under a blue sky. the nes has a limited palette so he probably only went with the purple-ish color because it best represented that

>>5188271
Does anyone remember this thread from years ago where people posted "interviews" with Miyamoto and tens of photos of old magazines and videos playing on initial hardware? The argument ended when it was proven the blue one with a purplish tint is the proper color?

Dejavu much? I just can't believe that not allowing 6th gen means we have to have threads pruned to have this discussion every few months.

Seriously this is a thread on reddit from a year ago too. Same pictures and posts by people here.

>>5188949
Enjoy your ugly, ”””accurate””” colors. I’m sure Miyamoto himself will knock on your door any minute now to thank you for respecting his artistic vision.

>>5189010
did you read the quote my dude?

>>5188745
>the sky was intentionally purple
[citation needed]

>>5189080
>>5188982

>>5189075
>can’t read between the lines
>must adhere to the intentions of some 60 year old gook to enjoy a 30 year old game
do you have autism my dude? if I played the game with a palette that makes the sky deep blue, would you have a stroke?

>>5189075
yes, unlike you, i actually did. he wanted a blue sky, but with the nes's limited palette, a purple shade was the closest to what he had in mind. he literally didn't intend for the sky to be purple, it was just the best alternative.

>>5189103
But I heard Miyamoto shows up to your house and gives you a gold star if you make the sky as purple as Barney the Dinosaur. Don’t you want to be rewarded for respecting the artist’s vision?

>>5189116
>seething

>>5189123
go back to asp ya simp

>>5188271
Couldn't you just check what it looks like on a PAL console?

>>5189180
PAL is irrelevant to everything.

>>5189180
No need for that, there's a version of the PPU that outputs RGB directly and definitively. Yet for some reason, that hasn't ended the debate.

>>5189193
this is probably actually the most accurate. has a purple-ish sky without the weird, drab poop brown for the sign/ground.

>>5188745
Imagine being so autistic that you care more about the color of the fucking in-game sky than actually playing the game

>>5189193
it's ugly though

>>5189195
It's pretty garish and obviously wrong for some games, but I think for a lot of games it's actually a nice looking palette.

>>5188271
Imagine being such a virgin you get asshurt over a spec of dust interfering with the rgb output or some shit.

>>5188745
>video games are art
Spotted the boomer

>>5188786
but you'll write a blog about it

>>5188786
>I'l still have more fun with it than you because I'm playing video games and you're obsessively tweaking the graphics so that the sky is the right shade of mauve.
If that doesn't sound remotely fun to you then you're not autistic enough for /vr/
go back home

>>5189265
>a blog
t. brainlet

>>5188658
>be Japanese engineer
>developing hardware exclusively for Japanese market
>people on the internet 35 years later think it's bad that you developed it for the Japanese television standard

>>5189303
>he doesn’t spend an hour trying various methods of monitor calibration and compare the results

>>5188271
>>5188853

>>5188271
The "purple" is actually closer to blue and the "blue" is more of a cyan.

>>5189103
"It took me a while to decide which one I would use, and eventually I picked the purplish one"

I think you might be a retard.

>>5188949
>It's ok to be wrong
No. It's also not ok to underage post.

>>5189440
it took him a while to decide because he didn't intend for the sky to be purple. it was a compromise because of palette limitations. no idea why this is so hard for you to understand

>>5189440
You get a gold star, anon. You get all the gold stars.

>>5188271
This is my favorite /vr/ meme

>>5188658
The NTSC luma-chroma system was cheaper to use, otherwise the NES had to bump up it's pallet ram to not only run in RGB but the PPU would of also been at 44 pins as well (the extra pins are Red, Green, Blue and Sync to be exact).

Yamauchi wanted a cheap system, if it was set for $200 instead of $150 it would of been RGB instead (plus more ram and removable controllers).

Early CRT colors were weird.
Pic related is NeXTSTEP, one of the forst color GUIs.
The bg is called "blue" and on CRT and IPS it looks dark blue, but on OLED and LCD it looks purple.

>>5189567
It is blue, it's just low saturation.

>>5189567
>>5189606
Here's what it would look like if it was purple.

>>5189103
>with the nes limited palette
No, he had 3 choices for blue sky color and he picked the purplish one
read better
> I picked the purplish one. i felt that purple had the depth of nature. I was really into that

It was a deliberated choice, not a default choice because there weren't a more realistic sky blue color in NES palette (hint: there is one)

>>5189202
what do you expect? It's a NES game

>>5188271

>>5189103
You should go back to school. "Purplish" literally implies blue but a hint of purple.

>>5188786
absolutely savage. gave me a chuckle.

>>5188745
Yeah the nameless overworked right-out-of-college nip graphics designer who probably worked on two more games before leaving the industry really had some artistic intent making these children’s games for minimum wage

>>5188271
Friendly reminder that you're a stupid nigger and miyamoto himself says the skies are blue.

https://youtu.be/DLoRd6_a1CI (1:30ish)

>>5191013
That be some hardcore trolling right there. If you think for one second that this might be true I recommend you consider kys.

>>5191026
>t. someone who doesn’t know anything about the Famicom-era dev cycle or thinks everyone there was like Miyamoto

>>5188982
I'm going with Nestopia YUV then

>>5189001
lol retard

>>5191217
lol faggot

>>5189904
Color palettes can make or break an NES game's visuals

>>5191226
You got me there, retard

>>5188271
FTFY faggot

>>5191314
nice 'fix'

>>5191338
>500 hours in MS Paint

>>5188786
This is actually pretty funny.

>>5191314
what did he mean by this?

>>5191314
wtf are these letters?

>>5189103
>>5189440
>>5189450
>>5189903
Makes sense. The purple hue is closer to summer sky color.

>>5192136
>Purple hue
It is like 98% blue with 2% red.

>>5192143
The sky is typically more purplish in summer than winter which is why I think he made a good choice given the options to him at the time since it gives a nice feeling to the game. That's all.

>>5192148
>>5192136
I don't know about your NTSC sky in America, but here, summer sky is fucking BLUE.

>>5192198
Warmer air tends to hold more moisture which in turn scatters more light (why the sky is blue in the first place) making it shift slightly to the violet end of the spectrum. If you live far enough from the equator that you have distinct summer and winter months you can actually measure it on clear days.

Everyone knows that purple-blue is cooler than cyan/light blue, which is gay.

>>5188982

based and blueskypilled

>>5189103
>but with the nes's limited palette
Let's take a look at that palette. Pic related. Now, of those colors, are you suggesting that there wasn't a more "blue sky" alternative to choose than a shade of purple? To be fair, only three of these colors can be active on a tile or a sprite at any given time, but that's beside the point.

>>5188316
There is no "original one". The NES palette doesn't use defined RGB values like most other consoles, so different devices will display the colors in different ways. I'm just going to assume that the top 6 are from different composite capture devices and/or fan-made emulator color palettes.

I'm pretty sure the sky is supposed to be clear, the hue of blue is a perception of the rays on your eyes

>>5188271
Mario Maker on Wii U puts this to rest.
It's the 9th.

>>5192614
...yes, i am. the blue shades next to the purple-y one they went with aren't quite bright enough to look natural and the cyan colors are too ugly and garish

>>5190980
your point? i never denied that's what the color looks like

Top Ten Most Autistic /vr/ Threads 2018 Edition

>>5192750
Kid, this ain't even the most autistic NES palette argument we've had this year.

>>5192198
>summer
He was referring the to the kind of fag he is and their propensity for shitposting about their propensity for shitposting about the sky being purple in the game.

>>5188786
Based and retropilled

>>5191013
>1985
>right-out-of-college
These chumps were right out of high school

>>5191013
>>5193537
Just some dude named Miyamoto who already had years of experience at the height of videogames and is the most famous person in the history of videogames, there is a quote in this thread even stating it if you bothered to read it you literally mentally disabled spastics.

>>5189014
Post a link then to prove your point.

>>5188271
SMB Deluxe and Mario Maker make the purple sky non-canon. Get over it, simp.

RGB output from the NES Classic is how the game is supposed to look.

>>5188657
Whoa now, careful with that hot take.

Miyamoto, Sakurai, et. al. made great contributions to gaming, but they wouldn't give two fucks about this shit.

>>5194372
mmm that kino diarrhea hue on the sign and ground is exactly what based shigiro miyamo intended.

>>5194372
Uneven pixels and incorrect aspect ratio, nice job Nintendo.

>>5192614
4 colors for tiles and 3 for sprites, but a character or an object can be assembled from multiple sprites to overcome this for example Megaman

>>5188271
>muh graphics
I hate casuals.

>>5194372
Yes, shimmering, sound latency, and noise ridden HDMI output is definitely reference material for the game looked. Because just like the NES virtual console showed us, Nintendo knows precisely how their old games should look.

>>5192734
Have ever heard the term grasping at straws? Thats (You)

>>5194372
Uneven pixels, care to explain? In this image the pixels are 1:1 and I dare you to challenge me (you).

The real color is the one which comes out from the television when you connect the console unit to it with any of the supported cables. It's that simple. I find it scary that new people don't care about the visual accuracy and also I see often people using 2XWAIFU or some other weird scaler on top of this. The amount of ignorants is huge and I lost my sleep because of it. Please send me help and start caring about the games. These games are culture and we must preserve them the best way we can. Preserving means also playing them the way the creators originally wanted and meant.
But given that most new people don't even understand what emulation is and have trouble running even the most simple of emulators, they need to go and post "is my machine powerful enough for Zerda BOTW" "how do I set up emulator X" without ever trying to figure out anything on their own is testament to their neverending stupidity and lack of honor and backbone. After I die gaming will die with me and few others. Imagine Miyamoto dying, imagine how big and sad event that will be. Imagine world after he is gone, gaming will crumble and fade away and all what is left is bunch of ignorant kids with their phones.

>>5195479
pfff as if mario odyssey wasn't just an elaborate phone game anyway. miyamoto if anything is part of this modern, microtransaction-based gaming culture

>>5195519
I guess he has caved in. I believe when the other guy died (I don't dare to say his name any more) he drowned his sorrow in local soaplands and went to Yakuza owned secret brothels. He's now an empty husk and does anything to prolong his life.
Well... I just booted God Hand on PCSX2 and I will drown my sorrows as well. God bless you and everyone on this thread.

>>5188982
>I felt that purple had the depth of nature
?

>>5193926
/thread

>>5195568
What's your point, faggot?

>>5194372
nah, it's missing scanlines, color bleeding, and all the other bullshit from mid 80's TV's.

>>5192134
newfag

>>5194813
nobody outside the raytroh-filterbubble does.