/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5189084
N64 is way better and still looks and runs great.
Just pretend is a $60 modern day game with a $40 DLC, only it will actually keeps it's value and not be replaced by a new version in a few months.

n64 has much better MP mode and varaity.

also its not as censored as the xbox

>>5189084
Just buy a flash cart if you're going to spend that much.

>>5189094
>>5189106
I could have sworn the xbox version had more modes
Anyway n64 it is

n64 version runs at single digit framerates, has awkward controls and tedious game play. The Xbox version does a lot to fix this up with the only downside being songs about poopy are censored. The humor in Bad Fur Day definitely didn't last well into adulthood and the Xbox version just basically just a better game.

>>5189145
>n64 version runs at single digit framerates

Played both, I liked the Xbox version more for controller alone.

>>5189084
OP you can find a copy for $45-55 on ebay just look around. I got a n64 with 9 games including conker for $110 on ebay just 2 months ago.

>>5189084
Rare Replay has the N64 version physically for cheap but I heavily doubt you have an Xbone, or would want one

>>5189084
>Not like it runs well anyway
The legit version also runs like shit anyway. The N64 couldn't handle it.

>>5189363
That's an indoor scene.
I know, "moving goalposts", but a single room has less to render than an outdoor area.

Xbox version runs better, controls better, looks great and tries to iron out some of the issues the original had. Gameplay in conker is generally lackluster though at least when it comes to single player.

Xbox version is way better unless you're an autist who insists on "older = better" every fucking time.

>>5189485
N64 version has better art style. It also has better animation (the Xbox version regressed the lip sync). It also has the full game, while the Xbox version removed some minor parts of it and also censored stuff. The Xbox version also added stupid time wasting enemies to a few parts which add no value (negative value really) to the game.

Also the Xbox version has trash multiplayer for local play at least, while N64 local multi is GOAT.

>>5189463
It's hardly a rock solid 30 FPS, but single-digit? Please.

>>5189547
>t. bought the N64 version for $100

>>5189084
Whatever is readily available to you. The Xbox version is fine, but inferior to the N64 version a number of ways. Strangely, even though the Xbox was the big boy console and the N64 was the kiddie console, the N64 version is more naughty, where the Xbox version goes as far as bleeping out curse words that were fully voice acted on the N64. Secondly, it's kind of great to see this game run on an actual N64 just to admire the technical aspects of it. Some moments will surprise you that a non-expansion pak game can look that good (although the game suffers from the slowdown that plagued most N64 games).

However, if you are going as far as to drop 100 bones on this game, you might as well get a EverDrive64 and be done with it. The price you would pay is similar to Conkers BFD and you get the added bonus of being able to play every other N64 game including games from outside your region. Trust me, the earlier you get over the "must own the real copy" feeling the more games you'll experience and enjoy.
The feeling of playing a great game is infinitely better than the feeling of owning a legitimate copy of a hidden gem™

>>5189605
>dude just emulate lmao
Fuck off. You're not welcome on this board.

>>5189612
The electrons that travel through the authentic cart travel in the exact same was as the ones from a flashdrive, so who are you to say it's not an authentic experience when it's indistinguishable from the original?
I'm a proponent of playing on original hardware, and if you knew anything about the N64, you would know that all the processing is done by the console itself. The cartridges have no special chips and don't do anything but feed the console the game data.

>>5189612
That's a flash cart, not an emulator you fucking retard. It's played on the authentic hardware.

>>5189635
>flash cart
>authentic hardware
???

>>5189627
>if you knew anything about the N64, you would know that all the processing is done by the console itself. The cartridges have no special chips and don't do anything but feed the console the game data.
The interesting thing is that supposedly the N64's microcode setup was designed to be a software-based replacement for the SNES's enhancement chips.

So instead of actual chips boosting the hardware, the microcode system allows the GPU to get a boost in power through updating its low-level software (almost like a driver update). This is why Nintendo was gatekeeping the microcode shit so much, because they did the same with SNES enhancement chips to keep third parties under their thumb.

But the based thing of course, is that because it's just software, it makes things super easy for flash cartridges. Just load in the game ROM and the N64's GPU automatically gets its update.

>>5189637
>LOL I TROLE U

>>5189605
It's not a big problem to just buy the games you want to play on the N64. There's only like 5 of them anyway.

>>5189462
So it wasn't a problem with my old PC that couldn't handle emulation (though I could emulate SM64, both Zeldas and Banjo-Kazooie just fine)?

>>5189612
That's not an emulator. Also fuck you emulate whatever you want you elitist dick

>>5189612
Flash carts are not emulators, retard.

>>5189485
I usually am that autists, and xbox version is indeed better.

>>5189638
That's bullshit, the microcode is just code for programming the RSP, it has nothing to do with enhancement chips and is not like them any more than ram is like them.

>>5190276
>the microcode is just code for programming the RSP, it has nothing to do with enhancement chips
Yes, it's just software, but the whole idea of it was so that system performance could be increased over time through low-level optimization. It was designed to work as a cheaper alternative to the enhancement chips.

Nintendo didn't withhold microcode documentation from developers just because they were being assholes for no reason. They were deliberately trying to be gatekeepers of enhanced N64 performance.

TIL bad fur day is on xbox ᕕ( ՞ ᗜ ՞ )ᕗ

>>5190290
ok, but it's like you can't download a graphics card. You can get low level optimization anyway and put enhancement chips on top of that so I am not sure why it should be one or the other. Do you have any good source stating it worked as a "software alternative to enhancement chips"?

>>5190354
>You can get low level optimization anyway
No you don't. For example, the PS1's equivalent to RSP, the Geometry Transformation Engine (GTE) can't be low-level optimized because all of its functions are already baked into the hardware.

>Do you have any good source stating it worked as a "software alternative to enhancement chips"?
Obviously Nintendo never said it outright, but it's pretty clear if you read between the lines of what N64 developers said in interviews.

>>5190373
Actually scratch that. I do actually remember Nintendo saying outright somewhere that microcode system was there to deliver upgraded performance over the system's life but I can't remember where. Some old magazine.

>>5189452
>OP you can find a copy for $45-55 on ebay just look around.
hello time traveller are you sure those arent repros?

>>5190373
>>5190380
yeah I think you have very little understanding or knowledge about what you're saying and you are wrong and spreading misinformation. Obviously the microcode is there to deliver upgraded performance, that doesn't make it like drivers or enhancement chips, etc.

>>5189094
>runs great
Sub 10FPS is not great, in fact, the original game runs like total ass garbage.

>>5190457
>Obviously the microcode is there to deliver upgraded performance, that doesn't make it like drivers
Then what IS it like you fucking moron?

You know programming microcode isn't like equivalent to just clever use of GTE on PS1 right? It's actually lower-level than that and most definitely comparable to drivers (although different because drivers are there for interfacing between devices and operating system).

>>5190468
conker actually runs at 1 FPS heeheheheheheheheheh

its fun to just make stuff up xD

>>5189121
Xbox has one mode, they cut out all the fun stuff from N64 for a Team Fortress clone.

>>5189612
Fucking idiot

>>5189084
you can emulate the n64 version. i did a complete play-though years ago.
both versions of cbfd are on xbone now, so its easy to get these titles and no longer "rare".

n64
-better multiplayer.
-less censored.
-better text boxes

xbox
-better singleplayer campaign due to tweaks.
-better/different graphics.

>>5190416
absolutely just go look here nov 21 $30

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Conkers-Bad-Fur-Day-Nintendo-64-/253989204931?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137

>>5189084
Neither version is worth playing unless you are/have the sense of humor of a 9 year old.

>>5190457
>that doesn't make it like drivers or enhancement chips
Microcode is literally used exactly for the purpose of letting a part change its operation to function as another part. It's bad enough you're too lazy and retarded to just read a bit of a wikipedia page but do you really need to shitpost here bragging about your ignorance?

>>5189637
See
>>5189594

If there was a patch to remove the god damn censors for the Xbox version, that one would be better

Sometimes I totally forget that it had a remake. Probably because it only happened one console generation removed from the original. I remember hearing good things at the time, and I like the art style even though I only had N64. Mplayer isn’t really a factor anymore, unless you seriously have some real life friend(s) that are into it at this point...

>>5190638
>he thinks the writing is the only reason anyone would play it
go home zoomie

The remake might have better controls and some tweaks to the main game, but it doesn't have the same charm of BFD at all.
While the graphics are amazing, the main deal of Conker was to look like a cutesy 3D Platformer so the characters doing raunchy shit was more shocking, and L&R looks too gritty and realistic to keep that intention, some of the new jokes don't even work (like the one at the beginning where the gargoyle doesn't fall) and the bleeps (which the conker team added because they thought it would make the jokes funnier) don't work.
Also, MP in L&R is great, but the one in BFD is more varied and is way more fun to play with people.

>>5189084
n64, but neither are worth buying
rather than buy this for $100, get an everdrive 64 and download the rom.

>>5189556
>It's hardly a rock solid 30 FPS
>rock solid 30 FPS
Nigger64 owners defending this dogshit as usual
>>5189640
This but unironically.

>>5191253
You're in luck then because there is.

>>5190563
>Note to brown people: don't take a picture of your hand if you're trying to sell a video game

>>5191594
Do you have a link anon? I couldn’t find it on google

>>5189637
Hardware implies the actual game system and its controllers, the game cart is considered software. So saying that you are playing on authentic hardware is 100% true, saying you are playing on 100% authentic hardware AND software is not.

>>5192401
The data saved on the game cart is software. The game cart itself is hardware.

>>5189084
$100 is cheap, Ive seen if cor $250 up here, I think just the cart is less but I don't buy games in bad condition they have to include the case or box. Lucky I bought back in 2006 for $20 at Zellers

>>5189635
Nintendo never published the Everdrive retard

>>5191594
or is there?

>>5189106
Does Xbox MP even work anymore now that XBL was shut down?

>>5189605
This is the reason I've heavily considered getting the N64 everdrive. There aren't many games worth playing on N64, but for the games that are they aren't very cheap.

DD support is cool as well I suppose.