/vr/ - Retro Games

Because he's an insufferable cunt. Anyone who acts that arrogant has it coming for them.

I never gave a fuck about that faggot; it was obvious that he's an insufferable cunt, that never grew up

>>5185420
>why do people care about him specifically out of any other world record holder for video games?
Because the average “gamer” is a dribbling brainlet who lives for drama

>>5185420
He's put a lot of effort into promoting himself. He's not "important", in any sense, at all. He's not responsible for anything amazing happening in the world of video games. He's good at old games but not uniquely so. He got the "first" perfect Pac-man game right after the official rules changed, if he hadn't done it somebody else would have within a month.

>>5185420
The vr chad warden

>>5185420
https://www.twitch.tv/billy_mitchell

>>5185453
oh wow I never knew he streamed

Because he has a rock stars ego without the millions of fans to justify it. He is (was?) relevant to only a few hundred people, and maybe name recognition among a few thousand more.

He is the first vidya e-celeb

>>5185420
>he cheated some of his high scores

He used an emulator. He never "cheated". He got the scores legit, he just did it in MAME.

>>5185420
KIDS made Nintendo popular in the states, not bill

>>5185427
>>5185437
Hivemind

>>5185420
>I heard that he made Nintendo popular in the states is that true?
Fucking no.

>>5185876
he sued over this. It's part of why people single Billy out. He is a massive fucking prick.

>>5185591
>He got the scores legit
How do you know that?

>>5185420
> giving a fuck about "pro gaming" in any form or capacity

>>5185896
Why not? It's more relevant that most other competitive activities.

>>5185591
>He got the scores legit
The obvious editing cuts beg to differ

>>5185420
>why do people care about him specifically out of any other world record holder for video games?
Twin Galaxies let Billy get away with a lot of shit that other people just didn't. The King of Kong doc gets a lot of shit for casting a bad light on Billy, but he was an arrogant asshole and all the shit that came out in the last year about him potentially cheating. He used MAME for a lot of his high score runs. Any idiot who thinks that's not a big problem is a liar or a moron. With emulators you can pause, save and load states.

Billy and Twin Galaxies were entwined in a business relationship. He gave a lot of publicity for Twin Galaxies, and in return, he received preferential treatment. Seriously, TG employees were known to gut your cabinets to make sure you had the correct board and everything worked to factory specification, and disqualify for the tiniest infractions, while Billy never actually submitted scores in the presence of a TG judge. He used his name recognition to shut newcomers down.

>>5185896
>he says on a gaming board

>>5185918
Do you really believe gaming and watching people game is the same thing? I'm actually asking, honestly curious

>>5185874
oh bill

He is an overt narcissist. Or in plain english "an insufferable cunt, that never grew up". Thanks >>5185427

Gamer losers where desperate for a rock star hero to make them look like they didn't waste their lives that they glorified the first douche bag to get a high score.

>>5185937
This is a board about video games, not specifically about playing them.

>>5185420
He trigger /jarpig/ so that's why you see threads of him here.

>>5186137
triggers

>>5185420
>I know that he cheated some of his high scores, but why do people care about him specifically out of any other world record holder
I also don't like Lance Armstrong and ENRON

People hate cheats and the higher the pedestal the greater the fall.

He's an even bigger assole for the fact there were other gamers who deserved the fame and money.

Billy faked his scores and got endorsments and sponsorship including being able to promote his own business.

I hope he gets sued into oblivion

Theiving cunt

It's a hot sauce industry hit job meant to destroy his hot sauce brand because they view it as a threat. Obviously it's not working.

>>5186169
that shit is TASTY nigga

>>5185427
>insufferable cunt
he voted for Donald Trump so he's also a russian Nazi

>>5185917
Basically all of this. Twin Galaxies quickly became a "clubhouse" that "legitimized" fame for a select group of gamers who were chasing records at the time. This club includes people like Mitchell and Rogers. Somehow the whole affair always reminded me of all the so-called "Martial Arts Halls of Fame" out there that were started by other martial artists, with absolutely no authority on the matter, solely for the purposes of inducting themselves and their friends. And anyone else willing to pa... err... "meet the stringent requirements for inclusion" into such an elite organization. Billy is kinda like the "Ashida Kim" of the video gaming world. The difference being that Billy apparently actually knows how to play video games. So at least he's got that much going for him. And hot sauce, I guess.

>>5186137
Why has Mitchell suddenly become the /shmupg/ mascot? Shouldn't it at least be one of the random Twitch/Farm trannies they obsess over?

>>5186450
Nothing to do with shmupg it's just that anything skill-related triggers this place

>>5186453
>"jarpig"
>not something parroted solely by /shmupg/ trapfappers
lel

>>5186457
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/41065302
Time to drop the shmupg obsession mr jarpig

>>5186462
It's not really much of an obsession when you make it so painfully obvious who you are when you post. Anyway, parroting "jarpig" at me doesn't really do much. I play a bunch of everything, RPGs and arcade games included.

>>5185446
nowhere near as timeless and hilarious as big papi

>>5186470
the jarpig credit feeds, how cute

>>5186479
>complete non-sequitur
I like pineapple.

>>5186482
>RPGs and arcade games
more like
>RPGs and credit feeding
99,99% of the time
Am I wrong in your case?

>[REDACTED]
1CC AND SCORING DISCUSSION VERBOTEN IN RETRO JRPGs, er GAMES BOARD

What's with the crossboard invasion?

>>5186502
>invasion
You mean people from /vr/?

>>5186505
No, I mean the invasion from shmupg.

>>5186507
The general that started on /vr/ years ago before being forced to move and is mostly comprised of /vr/ posters, some here since the board first started?

>>5186509
That's a pretty cool story. Anyway, what's with the invasion?

>>5186513
>posts by people that have been here since the beginning are an invasion just because they like shmups

>>5186519
But I thought you weren't from shmupg?

>>5186520
That post doesn't imply that. Seriously, stop with the silly witch hunt, it makes you look insecure.

>>5186524
>"anti-skill"
>"jarpig"
>"obey" picture
>"mason jarpig" picture
Do I even need to post the archive links? C'mon, guys. Just stop.

Yeah Retardo, stop disrupting our safespace, we don't enjoy your shitposts here. Just stay on /vg/ where you subhuman memelords belong, even if you discuss games you aren't welcome here.

>>5186502
>>5186507
>>5186513
>>5186520
>>5186531
No, you stop with the shmup hunt, jarpig. The guy that made most of these OPs still comes here and is also on shmupg, as well as some other regulars from the community:
>>/vr/thread/S1012131
>>/vr/thread/S1082258
>>/vr/thread/S1257342
>>/vr/thread/S1429738
>>/vr/thread/S1964848
>>/vr/thread/S2688856
>>/vr/thread/S2774257
>>/vr/thread/S2855807
>>/vr/thread/S2820641
>>/vr/thread/S2792825
>>/vr/thread/S3087514
>>/vr/thread/S3137501
>>/vr/thread/S3366161
>>/vr/thread/S3377091
>>/vr/thread/S3689367
>>/vr/thread/S3728067
etc.

Notice how this OP starts to link to shmupg as mods were fucking this community up, this is when it was forced to move to /vg/ with less retarded moderation:
>>/vr/thread/S2872727

Now fuck off.

>>5186547
tell me this is a falseflag lmao

>>5186549
>stop the witch hunting anti skill jarpiggerino faggerino retardo madmaxine creamkrautina obey verboten shmupg buzzwords
>we were here first! it's not fair! it was her turn!
Yeah, totally not a shmupg invasion.

Did you guys actually have anything to say about the thread topic? Got an opinion, good or bad, about our guy Billy? Actual legend or washed up hot sauce cheater? Is there even any credibility in having records for games like Pacman or DK? Are they challenging enough to matter?

>>5186556
Pacman and DK is way better than the JRPGs you guys love to dickride 24/7 here, yet absolutely nobody here plays them despite being actual retro game classics.

>>5186562
>actual retro game classics.
I agree.
>yet absolutely nobody here plays them
But I play them. And I'd imagine most other people on a board dedicated to retro games do (or at least have) as well.
>you guys
Who?

>>5186568
>But I play them.
Oh shit, what's your score? (I'll believe you, no need to post proof). That'd be awesome if true, too bad you NEVER see scoring threads here.
>Who?
Check the catalog lmao

>>5186549
>Notice how this OP starts to link to shmupg as mods were fucking this community up, this is when it was forced to move to /vg/ with less retarded moderation
At least this explains all the trolling and bitterness.

>>5186571
What, you thought it was all out of nowhere?

>>5186570
>too bad you NEVER see scoring threads here.
Probably because most of us don't play for score. Personally, I don't. I'm nowhere near good enough to do so in either game. My consistency puts me just over 1M in Pacman, which is laughable compared to people capable of killscreening with near-perfect (or actually perfect, as Mitchell's done at least once) runs. Let's not even discuss my DK scores. I have the suspicion that "not playing for score" somehow translates into "anti-skill jarpig" though, doesn't it?

>>5186575
How was I supposed to know? All I know is they show up here in any thread even tangentially related to arcade games and troll the place up. I don't care about the history, nor was I a part of it. So why do I have to watch every thread I try to participate in go to shit over things that weren't my fault?

>>5186580
>Probably because most of us don't play for score.
No shit, Sherlock
>Personally, I don't.
Wait, you play Pacman and DK but not for the score? What?

>>5186590
If you're ignorant then stop assuming shit and think for a moment, stuff like this doesn't just happen.

>>5186592
>Wait, you play Pacman and DK but not for the score? What?
Yes, that's correct. I've been playing them "not for the score" since they were new. I've been around that long, so I suspect that my "not playing them for the score" isn't going to change anytime soon, if at all. This is obviously a bit different than playing on a machine with your buddies over some beers chasing a high score for the goof. I think everyone does that. But "playing for score" the way someone like Mitchell does it? Nah, I'm good, thanks.

>>5186580
>I have the suspicion that "not playing for score" somehow translates into "anti-skill jarpig" though, doesn't it?
nah

>>5186601
You play them for the score because... they're scoring games, there's nothing else to them. You just mean you don't go for WR-level scores or maybe even that you don't care about scoring PBs.

>>5186607
>You just mean you don't go for WR-level scores or maybe even that you don't care about scoring PBs.
Uhh, sure. I'm assuming "PBs" is "personal best" right? In any case, I really do just play them to see how far I can get. I don't particularly care about what score that results in, although it would certainly be pretty cool to come close to a world record. I don't really consider that a life goal, though. Nor is it something I'd ever spend time pursuing.

>>5186601
>I think everyone does that.
>no threads about this kind of gaming on /vr/ ever

>>5186613
>>no threads about this kind of gaming on /vr/ ever
They might be a little more plentiful if they didn't immediately devolve into "jarpig" trolling and arguments over why people play what they do, complete with insinuations that there's only one way to "correctly" play a game.

>>5186613
I'm sorry, did you actually want me to come here and blog every time I get together to down some suds and play arcade games with my buddies?

>>5186612
>I really do just play them to see how far I can get.
In these kinds of games that's almost synonimous to playing for score (the longer you survive, the higher the score), what kind of mental gymnastics are these to try to distance yourself from liking score? lmao
>I don't really consider that a life goal, though. Nor is it something I'd ever spend time pursuing.
This is never what's implied when people say they play for score, it's mostly personal bests for the fun of self-improvement in a skill-based game.
You have a weird and distorted view of scoring players, man. Drop the stereotypes.

>>5186615
Link a single thread where this happened; as in, an OP saying he played for score casually and then the posts calling it a jarpig or some shit. Do it. Nah, those threads just aren't made in the first place.
>insinuations that there's only one way to "correctly" play a game.
Never the case, however people do suggest 1CC play because some do try games where you can infinitely continue and find them pointless until you make them know about 1CC and suddenly they get them (happened to some eventually very good shmup players even)

>>5186616
Would be better than Final Fantasy waifufaggotry

>>5186621
>what kind of mental gymnastics are these to try to distance yourself from liking score?
They're probably similar to the gymnastics required to distance yourself from the notion that people actually play and enjoy games for different reasons than you do.

>This is never what's implied when people say they play for score, it's mostly personal bests for the fun of self-improvement in a skill-based game.
This seems pretty self-evident, but thanks all the same.
>You have a weird and distorted view of scoring players, man. Drop the stereotypes.
What?

>>5186621
>calling it a jarpig or some shit.
don't even need to leave the thread lol
>>5186137

Billy "The Hot Sauce King" Mitchell will never be beaten.

shmupg btfo yet again

>>5186638
>don't even need to leave the thread lol
This thread isn't about OP saying he played for score casually though, you say threads like that are made only to be bullied to which I say bullshit and ask you to link one that's actually like that.

/jarpig/ seething yet again

>>5186668
>you say threads like that are made only to be bullied
[citation needed]

>>5186671
>>5186615

>>5186674
and i linked you the post where the jarpig shit started

>>5186681
>>5186668

>>5186683
but that bullshit is just you moving the goalposts. no one said anything even remotely like the scenario you're asking people to link.

>>5186687
Read again:
>no threads about this kind of gaming on /vr/ ever
as in (the kind of gaming we were talking about)
>no thread about casual scoring on /vr/
To which you said
>They might be a little more plentiful if they didn't immediately devolve into "jarpig" trolling and arguments over why people play what they do, complete with insinuations that there's only one way to "correctly" play a game.
So I ask, where are these casual scoring OPs getting bullied?

>>5186698
>To which you said
i didn't say anthing, i was just pointing out where the jarpig shit started. all this talk about casual scorign bullies is just goalpost moving.

>>5186704
>got cornered and have to resort to this shit
OK glad you admit no one bullies scoring players here no matter how casual and that nobody plays for score on the board lmao

>>5186706
>OK glad you admit no one bullies scoring players here
was this ever debated? or did you mean non scoring? anyway, the only reason you're even worried about it is because the faggot you keep accusing me of being was right, and i posted the evidence in this very thread. if you're not playing for a high score or w/e you're a no skill jarpig and all conversation immediately gets shut down.
>wot u ply poast you are scoars jarpigs only scoring matter

>>5186716
>if you're not playing for a high score or w/e you're a no skill jarpig and all conversation immediately gets shut down.
Nope, never happens. Show any instance of someone posting a low clear score only to be bullied. Just one (1), post it.
People get angry when they get accused of being that because they get caught, they indeed are what you say (no skill jarpig), when they aren't they gladly talk about the game they're playing.

>>5186725
>Nope, never happens.
>In these kinds of games that's almost synonimous to playing for score (the longer you survive, the higher the score), what kind of mental gymnastics are these to try to distance yourself from liking score? lmao
lol
>they get caught, they indeed are what you say (no skill jarpig)
lol why would you even care if they are? ya people get mad when someone says some dumb shit that insinuates that becuase they aren't good at a game they shouldn't be allowed to talk about it
>when they aren't they gladly talk about the game they're playing.
why can't they just gladly talk about the game they're playing without any dumb insults or fake elitism? or even if they're good at it?

>>5186732
>lol
How is that bullying? That poster likes playing for score and I just told him that casually playing for PBs is still score play, he doesn't need to go for WR for that. You're a crybaby if you think that's bullying.
>lol why would you even care if they are?
Why are people like that infesting arcade threads they don't like nor play?
>ya people get mad when someone says some dumb shit that insinuates that becuase they aren't good at a game they shouldn't be allowed to talk about it
Nah we just encourage them to play for the skill and enjoy getting better rather than stick to gay elf and collecting plastic.
>why can't they just gladly talk about the game they're playing without any dumb insults or fake elitism? or even if they're good at it?
In most of these cases they don't even play the game they just come here to seethe at the mere pressence of arcade / skill-based discussion. Like you're doing right now.

>>5186741
>Why are people like that infesting arcade threads they don't like nor play?
there aren't. actually what makes you think there are?
>Nah we just encourage them to play for the skill and enjoy getting better rather than stick to gay elf and collecting plastic.
why? if they want to collect plastic and play dragon's sword fantasy or w/e let them. if it's retro, it's vr. the fact that you even care what games people play is a little weird, let alone how they'r eplaying them.
>In most of these cases they don't even play the game they just come here to seethe at the mere pressence of arcade / skill-based discussion.
nah, this is bullshit. i'm not doing it, and neither is anyone else in this thread. this is your personal version of pol or w/e, a boogeyman that doens't reall exist. but you'll keep coming into these threads to spam jarpig until they actually do tho

>>5186745
>there aren't. actually what makes you think there are?
Dunno every time when asked they don't mention anything they play or straight up admit they don't like these games.
>if it's retro, it's vr.
Cool, there are other threads for that though, let vr have skill-based discussion too without invading the thread with PLEASE REMOVE BAD SHMUP ANONS
>nah, this is bullshit.
shmupg migrated for a reason as previously shown ITT

>>5186750
thread about arcade games =/= thread about skill-based discussion, js
>PLEASE REMOVE BAD SHMUP ANONS
then stop comign into the thread with fuck all u no skill jarpig babbies skill onlee plz. you can't not understand this lol
>shmupg migrated for a reason as previously shown ITT
seems like you're still here tho lel

>>5186760
>thread about arcade games =/= thread about skill-based discussion, js
Yeah, but every time one of these focuses on the skill they get pruned.
>seems like you're still here tho lel
Sure there's still crossposting, less than before but still, however the thread itself can't be here anymore even though a shmup thread isn't against the rules

>>5186769
lol you can't be lacking this much self awareness. you just can't be. you hav eto understand that this no skill jarpig scoarez stuff is stuff that people report becuase they don't want it in the thread. i don't think it's because they don't want skill based discussion or w/e i think they just don't want to be insulted for not being interested in that talk. of course this stuff gets pruned lol.

you said in your last post that shmupg migrated. if i read the thread right wasn't that because you wanted less strict moderation? didn't you ever stop to think about why you had to give a fuck about moderation in the first place? 4chan isn't a vacuum brah. there are all sorts of differnet people here, and it seems like most of them were reporting yoru posts.

>>5186781
They remove the OPs themselves even if they are harmless you moron, they don't want this kind of community on /vr/, again why the fuck do you think this general migrated.
>if i read the thread right wasn't that because you wanted less strict moderation?
yeah because the mods go straight to the OPs.

This thread is more cringe inducing than Bill and his sauce-stained tie.

>>5186783
>they don't want this kind of community on /vr/
ya lol that's kinda what i was trying to get you to realize in my last post.
>again why the fuck do you think this general migrated. i'm glad you actually get it tho. i was worried.
so what's the big deal then? people who want skill based discussion can go to shmupg and you guys can come here to talk about w/e if it doesn't fit in with shmupg.

>>5186783
>they don't want this kind of community on /vr/
ya lol that's kinda what i was trying to get you to realize in my last post. i'm glad you actually get it tho. i was worried.
>again why the fuck do you think this general migrated.
so what's the big deal then? people who want skill based discussion can go to shmupg and you guys can come here to talk about w/e if it doesn't fit in with shmupg.

>>5186787
>so what's the big deal then?
Nothing aside from, you know, the sad truth that skill based discussion isn't allowed on the RETRO GAMES board, but I guess this isn't an issue at all for you, if anythinf you prefer that safe space.

>>5186791
>but I guess this isn't an issue at all for you
honestly you're right. it's not an issue for me at all.
>if anythinf you prefer that safe space.
yah pretty much. it's nice to just be able to talk about w/e without all the spam and insults and shit. it's like, just talk about games. we don't need all the no skill jarpig crap. people play all kinds of old games and they like them in different ways. that's cool. just let it be cool lol.

I heard Batsugun Special and The Punisher are pretty good for 1cc virgins, any other suggestions?

>>5186805
same suggestions that get posted in every one of these threads

>>5186798
>honestly you're right. it's not an issue for me at all.
>yah pretty much. it's nice to just be able to talk about w/e without all the spam and insults and shit. it's like, just talk about games. we don't need all the no skill jarpig crap. people play all kinds of old games and they like them in different ways. that's cool. just let it be cool lol.
And this is why you get called an anti-skill jarpig

>>5186805
Nemesis for hori shmups, Metal Slug 1 for run and guns. Also the Mega Man arcades are veeery easy by arcade standards while still quite fun.

>>5186814
>And this is why you get called an anti-skill jarpig
>they don't want this kind of community on /vr/
we're on like seven layers of irony here. i'll try to stop enjoying games tho. sorry.

>>5186819
I wouldn't get upset if someone called me an arcadefag, the fact that you feel insulted or attacked says everything.

>>5186820
>why do you feel insulted or attacked right after i insult and attack you?
lol i dunno man

>>5186821
Insults only affect you if they are true and you feel bad about being what the insult is. If you're white and I call you a nigger you wouldn't give a shit, but you feel attacked if I call you an anti-skill jarpig, gee I wonder why.

>>5186825
>Insults only affect you if they are true and you feel bad about being what the insult is.
nah that's not true. this is just what you tell yourself so that you can stereotype people and not ever have to consider their point of view.

>>5186826
Your favorite game genre is JRPGs, you don't care about skill-based gameplay and would rather not have that kind of community on /vr/. Am I wrong? You admitted to the last one >>5186798
Stereotypes are one thing, but being right is another. Would be like saying black thieves don't exist just because it's a stereotype.

>>5186825
No, the act of trying to insult someone is the insulting part. The words you use to deliver that insult are of little consequence.

>>5186829
>Your favorite game genre is JRPGs
lol no it isn't
>you don't care about skill-based gameplay
yah you're probably right. sometimes i like to talk about strategy for certain arcade games i like but for the most part i could take or leave skill based talk so yeah
>would rather not have that kind of community on /vr/
lol i don't care if a community like that is on vr. why would i or anyone else? i just care about being left alone if i don't meet some arbitrary criteria for gaming determined by other random people. not a really hard concept to understand.
>Stereotypes are one thing, but being right is another.
but you're not right, and i think this is what you're having trouble coping with. i'm not an "anti-skill jarpig". i don't really have an opinion about skill-based discussion, and i don't play jrpgs. this doesn't mean i don't resent what's obviously supposed to be an insult.

>>5186834
True, but you're only offended by the word if it's something you feel ashamed of.

>>5186836
What games do you like to play then? Zelda?

>>5186840
>True, but you're only offended by the word if it's something you feel ashamed of.
nah, this is still bullshit. again, this is you trying to stereotype without ever having to consider another pov or admit you might be wrong
>wot u ply?
i like video games. huge fan.

>>5186848
>i like video games. huge fan.
So which ones, prove that stereotype wrong

>>5186849
not really my responsibility to prove stereotypes wrong. and i've been in just enough of these threads to realize how "wot u ply?" works. if i answer, then the current discussion (that you really want out of) gets dropped in favor of trying to "out" me as some sort of fraud. if i don't answer it's absolute proof of the "anti-skill jarpig" stereotype being true

>>5186858
Or you could just say what games you like, I wouldn't have any issues in telling mine. I guess you're too ashamed to admit what kind of games you like because that'd prove the stereotype.
Almost got a loop of Sonic Wings (arcade, not SNES, just in case since on /vr/ you never know lmao) in a casual coin lately myself, fun game.

>>5186862
>I guess you're too ashamed to admit what kind of games you like because that'd prove the stereotype.
the funny part is you're trying to play the "wot u ply?" card in a thread that isn't eve ntechnically about arcade games lol

>>5186864
It's tangentially related and still on-topic, but OK man if you're so ashamed of what you play just don't say it lmao it's just a little sad that you're ashamed of your hobbies on a board about said hobby. I guess this is the kind of insecurity you guys feel when we're around that pushes you to remove us. But think: that shame is there for a reason.

>>5186871
>le shame baity bait le
kek
>But think: that shame is there for a reason.
there's no shame. it's just that "wot u ply?" is old and we've all seen it before. no one here is stupid enough to take the bait after it's been done so much. although i admit that i'm bizarrely curious about why you seem obsessed over what games people play.

>>5186871
>that shame is there for a reason
The reason is "my hobby is shared by neckbeard autists who shitpost threads". I can understand why someone might feel shame.

>>5186875
>there's no shame
>afraid to say what games he likes to play
OK, man.
Have you tried the Mega Man arcades? Quite easy and fun clears.

>>5186879
unironically this

>>5186879
more like I feel shit for having dumped so many hours and money into this hobby and still being absolute trash at it, I prefer being surrounded by others like me rather than better players who remind me of how shit I am just by their sheer pressence

>>5186882
>Quite easy and fun clears.
why do you think this is what anyone cares about in a video game lol?

>>5186885
A relatively easy fun arcade is the kind of game quite a few people enjoy

>>5186884
This. I will never understand why these nerds don't want us here. I don't get why these stupid little jarpigs can't understand that video games are meant to be played in a certain way with specific goals. Why even bother playing video games unless your entire identity and ego is wrapped up in holding world records in them? It's not like they're the last thing we have left after failing at everything else in life. That would be ridiculous. And why do they get so mad when we insult them?

Don't even get me started on these people who don't even play arcades. Fucking horror elements, man.

>>5186896
based like billy

>>5186896
lol nice falseflag bro you even saved that pic from back then, unfortunately it's full of strawmans and things nobody says
here we have people taking many different approaches to skill-based gaming and nobody goes for WR scores, we only suggest others to try that kind of play because it's fun and also point how it's removed from the board despite not being against the rule (again, harmless OPs are targeted). Guys like you who don't care about this kind of play come to threads to seethe every single time.

>>5186905
madmaxine absolutely SEETHING

Bahmpu~

>>5186908
>trying this hard
OK guys just so you know, this guy comes to shmupg and, in his own words, can't even survive the second stage of DonPachi even after many tries, despite this being very easy and doable blind. He's been coming to the thread for almost three months now just to complain despite not liking nor playing shmups.

>>5186915
>t. krautina

People like tearing down heroes.

>>5186919
Miserable anti-skill fucks like tearing down heroes, ftfy, which is why >>5186137

>>5186923
Calm the fuck down Tardo.

>>5186927
Not all people despise their superiors in skill, some respect them or even have them as their reference to improve themselves.
Anti-skill retards prefer bringing down everyone to their level, which is why they're so quick to demonize, trivialize, etc. the skills of others. While those who appreciate skill would rather improve themselves to try to best the rest.

>>5186937
And this is why this jarpig board is so eager to shit on Billy when the debacle happened while not paying attention when he actually shows he has skills.

>>5186923
Dude doctored video footage, lied about playing on real hardware, and got caught. That's not a skill thing. Dude is a gaming legend, and he's really fucking good, but you can't expect people to just be cool with it despite him putting up some monster scores after the fact. Hopefully he'll keep it up and move past this drama.

>>5186937
>>5186943
SEETHING

>>5186923
Well in general, "professionally" skilled people are liked because they are so good at what they do it leaves you wondering how they did it. When the answer can be something where they don't have to admit that they are just inferior, then they love to cling to that answer. This can be seen in professional sports, as well.

At the end of the day, Billy is still better than anyone on /vr/ at Pac Man or Donkey Kong.

>>5186951
>Billy is still better than anyone on /vr/ at Pac Man or Donkey Kong.
shmupg too

>>5186937
>Not all people despise their superiors in skill, some respect them or even have them as their reference to improve themselves.
At least you're honest about why you play. Or why you care about how other play.

>>5186951
>When the answer can be something where they don't have to admit that they are just inferior, then they love to cling to that answer.
Absolutely spot on.

>>5186953
massive COPE there jarpig

>>5186957
Funnily enough I'm not a scoring or competitive player, well I used to play fighting games versus but not anymore.

Bill the shill master bitchel. The dame of MAME. The doctor of doctoring.

>>5186960
>Funnily enough I'm not a scoring or competitive player

>>5186967
>he has the shmupg pack of pictures

>>5186974
>he doesn't

>>5186871
>I guess this is the kind of insecurity you guys feel when we're around that pushes you to remove us. But think: that shame is there for a reason.
Help me understand this. You genuinely think someone feels ashamed because they're not specifically into scoring or 1ccs and you are? Do I have this right?

>>5187078
Why else would you feel ashamed to the point of not being proud of what you like and just saying what you like?

>>5187084
and not saying what you like*

He didn't cheat - the autists took him down on some technicality over the hardware he used. Nonetheless, there guy can get those scores he claimed and has done it in person multiple times to multiple witnesses.

It was a literal Al Capone move. Can't get the guy for his murders so they go after his taxes. So cunty.

>>5187084
Mostly because it really does seem like bait, as someone in the reply chain mentioned at least once. If they aren't into scoring or 1ccing, why would it even matter what they play, unless you were looking to derail a thread with JRPG nonsense. Kinda like what looks like already happened here.

>>5185420
Chads like Billy Mitchell get a lot of hate from losers that will never be half as good

>>5187090
>unless you were looking to derail a thread with JRPG nonsense
this would only be the case if his answer was JRPGs, if this was the case and he doesn't care about arcades why the fuck would someone like that be in an arcade thread complaining like it always happens? would just prove the stereotype

>>5187097
What in the literal fuck are you talking about? I'm not reading anymore of the wall of garbage than I already have, so I'll just assume I'm missing something. I'm asking why you think there's some aura of shame that goes along with not scoring or 1ccing (arcade?) games? Now I'm also asking why you think that liking JRPGs and arcade games are mutually exclusive hobbies?

>>5187102
The shame is the one jarpigs have for being too shit at games despite having spent tons of money and time into the hobby, to the point that they feel insecure about saying what kinds of games they like around people who are more skilled and play harder games.
No, they're not mutually exclusive but there's a big correlation.

>>5187114
>The shame is the one jarpigs have for being too shit at games despite having spent tons of money and time into the hobby, to the point that they feel insecure about saying what kinds of games they like around people who are more skilled and play harder games.
See, this is just fucking wacky to me. This really sounds like you somehow think you're better than someone else due to what games you're playing or how good you are at playing them. I mean, we're still talking about video games, right? These things that range from idle amusement to children's toys depending on any rational point of view? We haven't drifted into brain surgery or astrophysics without me noticing, right?
>No, they're not mutually exclusive but there's a big correlation.
A big correlation between what and what exactly?

>>5187119
>I mean, we're still talking about video games, right?
Honestly we might as well be talking about different hobbies despite these all being technically video games.
>A big correlation between what and what exactly?
RPG fans don't usually care for arcade games and viceversa, arcade players don't usually care for RPGs.

>>5187124
>Honestly we might as well be talking about different hobbies despite these all being technically video games.
An astute observation on your part. It really does seem that way. That being said, why do you come here to try and force a conversation that it seems no one here really wants to have? Moreover, why do you seem to become hostile and combative when people tell you they don't want to have the aforementioned conversation? Additionally, why do you feel the need to insult them for that? Again, please help me understand where you're coming from.
>RPG fans don't usually care for arcade games and viceversa, arcade players don't usually care for RPGs.
This goes right back to the things I just asked. Why try to have this conversation with people who, quite obviously and by your own admission, don't want to have it?

>>5187127
Many like you seem very eager to participate in that conversation rather than ignoring it, just saying.

>>5187139
This thread would apparently suggest otherwise. Rather than participating in a conversation about scoring or 1ccing arcade machines they, much like myself, really just seem to be trying to understand where you're coming from. Some a little more hostile than others, but that's to be expected I suppose. People tend to not react well to insults.

>>5187142
Anti-skill jarpig is only an insult if you're ashamed of your tastes. You could be proud of enjoying games your way but no, I wonder.

>>5185420
go to sleep billy tao rupi [etc]

>>5187147
>Anti-skill jarpig is only an insult if you're ashamed of your tastes.
Absurd. It's not even an insult at all. I'm more impressed that you think it is in the first place. If someone were, for whatever reason, ashamed of their tastes in video games (of all things) why would you bother caring? Some of you seem to have an obsession with the concept of "anti-skill" that's bordering on pathological. It really just looks like they don't want to talk about arcade machines with you.

>>5187150
>People tend to not react well to insults.
Then what other insults were spouted if jarpig doesn't count as one?
Whoops

>>5187154
I was referring to the constant mention of "anti-skill" mostly. And just because I don't find something to be an insult doesn't make it any less of one to someone else. Also, I really can't help but feel like you're sort of avoiding my questions from earlier. Is there any truth to that, or is it just in my head?

>>5187159
Same shit, anti-skill is only an insult if you are ashamed of that, you could just like games that aren't about the skill and be proud of it. But instead you show insecurity when these words are mentioned. Interesting, for sure.

>>5187164
>you could just like games that aren't about the skill and be proud of it.
Funny, I do like games that aren't about skill and I'm quite proud of the fact. Not so much JRPGs though. I grew up with CRPGs, so that's where the heart is at, you know? Stuff like the Bard's Tale games and Wizardry. I don't think anyone would argue that they take much skill. Of course, I also enjoy a game of Donkey Kong Jr. and Jackal from time to time. Take that as you will.

So, about what I asked you earlier in this post right here. >>5187127 Have you given those questions any thought?

>>5187173
>RPG player
Never fails
Yeah I already answered, this sums it up pretty much >>5187139

>>5187175
I can't help but notice that you ignored the fact that I said I played other games. Why might that be? Also, have you given any serious thought to those questions I asked?

>>5187179
Well, your favorite genre is RPGs and you very rarely touch arcades... lmao then you dare say I stereotype you.
Yeah I already answered, this sums it up pretty much >>5187139 (You)

>>5187180
>Well, your favorite genre is RPGs and you very rarely touch arcades
See, now I'm really starting to think this is a mental issue. I haven't said, or even implied, either one of these things.
>lmao then you dare say I stereotype you.
Huh?
>Yeah I already answered
No, you really haven't. The conversation you're referring to isn't the one I'm asking you questions about. I think you're smart enough to know that. Whatever the case, I really am just trying to understand where this irrational hatred is coming from.

>>5187183
>I haven't said, or even implied, either one of these things.
Well...
>I grew up with CRPGs, so that's where the heart is at
>CRPGs is where the heart is at

>I also enjoy a game of Donkey Kong Jr. and Jackal from time to time.
>I play arcade games just occasionally

>>5187189
Those are both quite the stretch, but we'll roll with it. Well, let me assure you that RPGs aren't my favorite genre and I play arcade machines a bit more frequently than "occasionally". So, with that said, have you given any thought as to why you're trying to force people into a conversation that they, by your own admission, aren't trying to have? Or why you become combative when they tell you as much?

>>5187192
I don't admit it because they sure are eager to have it

>>5187196
I could've sworn you said just a little while ago that they didn't. Why the change of heart?

>>5187197
They don't talk about arcades themselves but they sure are eager to come to arcade-related thread to seethe at the mere pressence skill-based players; example >>5186502

>>5187202
Well, that seems like a valid question. As in, it looks like he's actually asking, "Hey, what's with /shmupg/ suddenly busting through the proverbial door and throwing 'anti-skill' 'jarpig' and 'seething' around, completely unprovoked, while we're trying to have a Billy Mitchell thread?"

That said, why did you guys do that anyway?

>>5187212
>That said, why did you guys do that anyway?
Not an invasion as proven here
>>/vr/thread/S5185420#p5186549

>>5187215
>invasion
Well, whatever, call it what you want. It doesn't answer the question, though. Why the unprovoked attack?

>>5187216
Not unprovoked, this started as an explanation. In my opinion a good deal of people hate Billy due to their anti-skill tendencies as explained on length earlier. This got some anti-skill anons angry, crying shmupg, etc. That's it.

>>5187224
I can't really understate my personal belief that this is a pathological obsession. While I don't personally hate Billy, I really can't see how a dislike of him (especially in light of recent events) somehow constitutes "anti-skill" or whatnot.

Actually, put that last thought on hold temporarily. I'm still not entirely sure what this term really means. Is this meant to suggest that there's a subset of gamers who are specifically against skill in video games, or is it more of a "they just don't care for arcade games" thing?

>>5187229
This guy who wasn't me explains it quite well >>5186951

Anti-skill is strictly people who dislike skill requirements in games, in recent times there's even been anti-skill shilling, if you keep up with recent gaming journalism this shouldn't surprise you. People that don't care about skill-based games aren't technically anti-skill but can sometimes show the same tendencies.

>>5187234
>if you keep up with recent gaming journalism this shouldn't surprise you.
And I don't, as I find them just as looney as the sorts of people who genuinely believe in an "anti-skill" sentiment among gamers.

>>5187237
Anti-skill shilling is real though, look up stuff like game inclusivity, there are many paid journalists to push this agenda.
This is done because in the current market a skill-based game is less profitable. If you pay 60 dollars for a game that may last you forever because you can keep improving at it while still being fun, that's much less than games you can easily complete only to beg for more content to pay (usually due to story or progression addiction), thus it's in the interest of gaming companies to try to paint games that are about the skill as unreasonable, unfair, anything but good. See the knee-jerk reaction against Cuphead even though that game is barely challenging, just because it got popular.

>>5187243
Hey, that's great and all. Thanks for your time. I think I've come to understand what I wanted to.

>>5187246
Cool, have a good time.

>>5187243
>there are many paid journalists to push this agenda.
there aren't many paid games journalists period. good fanfic though.

>>5187249
Thank you, I'm going to try. Hopefully a thread pops up one of these days that let's me see you guys as something other than "social justice warrior with a slightly different colored hair dye" like this thread has.

Billy is a psycopath who build his entire self esteem on those fake records and lies.
Todd Rogers is also a cheater but hes a funny and chubby fraud. Cant dislike him.

>>5185420
I know this dude, he's always playing that game at the local vidya game bar. Now i know why he has cameras on him while he plays with his kong.

>>5185427
this. the notorious East Side Dave interview went so over the top in trying to make him look good, but he's a fucking bore to listen to.

glad Dave was able to get some attention out of it, but it was definitely one of the worst episodes of the East Side Dave Show

>>5185591
while it's true that most of us know fully well how good billy is at certain games, he did not get these scores "legit" and there's been no proof to show for it except poorly edited videos from an emulator.

>>5187243
>there are many paid journalists to push this agenda.
>paid journalists
>paid
The funny part is that this person thinks they know anything at all about the industry.

>>5185427
>Because he's an insufferable cunt. Anyone who acts that arrogant has it coming for them
couldn't agree more. i had suspected for a long time that it was all an act of sorts, but it was later confirmed to me that billy is like this all the time. pretty sad.

>>5187246
>>5187253
>>5187375
Nice damage control, """journos"""

gaming journalists are worse than people that rape children. bottom feeding trash of society.

>>5187380
Dipshit, please. I *wish* I could get paid to sit around and write a whole bunch of fictional inflammatory crap meant to piss off tribalistic "gamer" kiddos, fat dangerhairs, and paranoid nutjobs. I have to settle for shitposting on this trashcan of a website for free.

>>5187254
hey, that's pretty good

>>5187384
so basically what you're saying is you're helping push their shit agenda... and for free? wow

>>5187387
No, what I'm saying is that I *wish* I could help them push their agenda. Pissing retards off sounds like a pretty good hobby and the possibility of getting paid to do it professionally sounds almost dreamlike.

>>5187391
That sounds... reasonable. Thanks for being more civilized than me. I thought you were being a piece of shit.

>>5187394
I AM being a piece of shit. My point was that I'd like to be a professional piece of shit. I'd gladly be a "gaming journo" if it came with a paycheck and the promise of being able to troll massive swaths of the gaming community at my leisure. That's not "going to work" at that point. That's "going to fun" and still getting paid.

>>5187397
No, I mean I get that. Maybe I just have a very low bar for these things, but I still find your honesty slightly more redeeming than the usual "GAMES NEED CHANGE" schlock you get around sites like kotaku, polygon, etc. Not that I'd notice the difference if you WERE being paid to do it. Anyway, thanks again for being civilized. Have a good whatever your timezone makes it.

>>5187409
>but I still find your honesty slightly more redeeming than the usual "GAMES NEED CHANGE" schlock you get around sites like kotaku, polygon, etc.
Don't. Because I'd pushing exactly that schlock if I were getting paid to do it. The only difference is that I'd be enjoying the reaction it got and not just the paycheck.

>>5187410
Do you like Alien Soldier?

>>5187413
Am I getting paid to like it? Am I getting paid to tell you to like it?

>>5187416
Anon, the point was driven enough. You could have driven your point through concrete at this point. I'm curious about whether you have an opinion on this game or not

>>5187420
I don't even know what fucking game that is. Why did you just bring it up out of nowhere? This is a Silly Bitchell thread that's long since degraded into faggot kiddos shitposting in the first place.

the autism is real ITT right now

>>5187426
Yes. Thanks.

>>5187429
Are you a fucking bot or something?

>>5187454
>>5187456
That is one scary looking dude. Why does Aquas want to smash that again?

>>5187459
Now wait, in what year did this happen? What newspaper is this?

>>5187467
And then there's this chad looking motherfucker.

>>5187469
As opposed to what? Banking your entire personal identity on being good at a video game to detract from how shite your life is? Ya'll shmupg motherfuckers roast yourselves.
>>5187470
>dat filename
Copy monkeys running amok.

>>5187475

>>5185876
>getting butthurt over this

>>5185420
Why did he cheat?

>>5185420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EzuAl71myw

>>5187465
> being this fucking lazy

August 17, 1982
The Courier-Journal - Louisville, Kentucky

>>5187713
because he's a arrogant asshole that thought he'd get away with it.