/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5180846
no but it's better than IV

>>5180952
This

>>5180846
Worse than Bloodlines
Better than IV

>>5180846
No

>>5180846
X68K version, maybe.
PS1 version, no.

>>5181035
>X68K version, maybe.
Why is this better?

>>5181060
it's more retro and rare so it must be better

>>5180970
Bloodlines felt like a bootleg Castlevania game to me.

>>5181091
I'm sorry for your shit taste

>>5181074
PS1 version isn't a perfect port. It fucks up hit boxes, apparently.

>>5181101
He's right.
I champion the Genesis and Bloodlines is a good game, but if it doesn't feel like discountvania to you then you lack perspective

>>5181110
It seems that you lack a functioning brain.

>>5181106
>game is redrawn and rebalanced 8 years after the original release
> hitboxes aren't exactly the same

Bloodlines has an unsettling art style which doesn't feel like Castlevania to me.

>>5181227
Color palette is a bit too fruity for my liking.

>>5180846
Better than Dracula X, worse than Bloodlines, IV, and Rondo.

>>5181263
I was more thinking about the fact that it has depth in its floors unlike every other Castlevania and the weird blue flames when killing enemies.

>>5181131
It wasn’t “redrawn”, Simon just got a new sprite. It’s exactly the same in every other regard. It was a rush job, they didn’t even have time to emulate every other X68k sound module.

Holy fuck why does everyone shit on IV?

>>5181324
For sake of being a contrarian I guess. I'd say the game is a bit overrated though elsewhere, and prefer Rondo myself. But it's a damn good game and one of best classicvanias nonetheless. Wish more of the games had the control of IV.

It's my favourite of the 16-bit entries along with The New Generation.

Rondo is overrated weebshit and IV is casualised garbage.

>>5181347
t.

>>5181116
>hurr durrrrr hur dur durrrrrr
Not an argument

>>5181385
>>5181348

>>5181106
It's not like you noticed or cared back then.

>>5181290
Holding L1 and R1 when you start lets you choose the soundtrack version (the PS1 music or the three X68K versions).

>>5180846
Graphics are so fucking good. Even outshines Bloodlines IMO.

>>5181091
This
I can't put my finger on it but it seems so much like a game made to be similar but legally distinct from Castlevania as if it wasn't made by Konami at all or something.

>>5181324
Because it's ugly, boring, with Slogra and Gaibon being the only memorable thing about it. Lamest Dracula this side of Haunted Castle, most forgettable music of the entire series

>>5181116
this. the fuck are those fuckers on about? the only difference is character design, otherwise it plays just like classicvania

>>5181324
because it's really slow and sloppy except for exactly only the boss fights which are the only good thing about it aside from graphics and music as usual

>>5181091
>>5181850
Bloodlines and Contra Hard Corps are both secretly Treasure games

>>5180846
Can we just start having Castlevania generals? So many threads that could just be one

>>5181938
No, because generals are gay.

>>5181936
The team that left to form treasure left before those games came out.

>>5181106
Got a source? I want to master the game but if the PSX version is fucked in some way, I don't want to play it.

I'm playing the original mode, for what it's worth.

>>5181936
CV4 is more a Treasure game than those. Which would explain why its such bullshit

>>5182045
I never noticed but the x68k is easy enough to emulate if you're put off by that.

>>5182045
i've played it a bunch and never noticed anything off at all, it's a great game and a good challenge have at it.

>>5180846
yes, rondo is overated weeb shit that gets wanked on because its easy as fuck and had muhh jap leet points before it got ported.

>>5181912
>otherwise it plays just like classicvania

no it doesn't pleb, its much faster paced, you can jump on stairs etc, you have the i-frame moves with lecarde and etc.

>>5182353
>you can jump on stairs
you can also jump on stairs in 4 and rondo

>>5182357
yes and both of them are pleb shit dumbed down from actual classicvania formulae, notice how they're all the easiest games.

>>5182363
Bloodlines and 4 are both harder than 1 but easier than 3.

>>5182367
>Bloodlines and 4 are both harder than 1

lmao no they aren't.

>>5182396
1 is a 20 minute cakewalk

>>5180846

Not at all. Rondo is super polished. X68000 Castlevania is a decent game, but a bit stiff. Great sprite work is what it's has the most.

>>5181060
The HUD doesn't obstruct the screen, allowing you to see obstacles and enemies better along with the general artistry of the backgrounds. The screen isn't stretched either, so a quick scan of the screen to see what's coming up is more effective as well.

For minor things, the clock in Stage 5 tells the actual time on your computer and the painting in Stage 7 changes with the seasons.

>>5181324
Too popular and Nintendo-exclusive.

>>5182397
rondos a no challenge joke and bloodlines is also a cakewalk.

>>5182416
>Rondo is super polished.
more like super easy, x68000 is super polished.

>>5180846
God no.

My favorite is SOTN, u can judge me.

>>5183303
SOTN is the most easy? What other is near in be easy?

Castlevania fans are probably the shittiest fans on /vr/. You ever seen a Metriod fan complain that you can shoot diagonally in Super Metriod? Or that better platform controls make the worse?

Why is everyone talking about Chronicles nowadays?

>>5182352
>yes, rondo is overated weeb shit that gets wanked on because its easy as fuck and had muhh jap leet points before it got ported.
I keep seeing this but its just not true. the cutscenes have fuck all to do with what makes Rondo so good.

>>5181091
your mom is a bootleg

>>5181347
>The New Generation
have fun with article 13 eurocuck

>>5183789
Rondo's novelty is worn off and CV4 has aged like ass-milk. Chronicles is the only non-NES Classicvania for anti-SotNfags to talk about

>>5181936
>>5182191
So is Contra 3, which also explains why it's inferior. Konami beat Treasure at their own game.

>>5183865

I think half of it is the fact it is rare so collectors want to pump the value up on ebuh.

>>5183865
As far as retro CV games go, there are only two bad ones. Adventure and Haunted Castle.

If anyone feels otherwise, don't @ me, because you're wrong now and will be wrong tomorrow.

>>5183940
>only two bad ones
Yes, Simon's Quest and 64, which are both objectively poorly designed.

Adventure isn't that bad once you get used to its slow pace, and with HC you just have to git gud.

>>5182191
> CV4
> bullshit

do you mean it's too easy?

>>5183965
>and with HC you just have to git gud.
Or I can just play a good CV game.

>>5181853
> with Slogra and Gaibon being the only memorable thing about it

I'll agree that they're the best bosses

> most forgettable music of the entire series

don't you fucking talk shit about the castlevania iv soundtrack

>>5180846
Is this worth playing? It's the one side scroller Castlevania I never played.

>>5181324
No idea. The worst one is objectively Bloodlines.

>>5183982
>don't you fucking talk shit about the castlevania iv soundtrack
Other than Simon's Theme, none of that meandering, forgettable, droning, boring nonsense that passes as a soundtrack is worth a fuck.

>>5184580
>none of that meandering, forgettable, droning, boring nonsense that passes as a soundtrack is worth a fuck.
Not the anon you're arguing with but lol you really feel hate for that soundtrack don't you?
Anyway, from Castlevania 4, I think the most memorable one was actually the level 4 music, and not Simon's Theme. That one always stood out more to me, perfect balance between melody-driven and dreary, fiendish vibe.
I also quite like the classical-inspired chamber music on level 6, when you actually enter the castle. Nice melodies and good use of organs and string sounds. Definitely not boring.
And then the library, the treasury, the forest. All good stuff.

>>5184159
Yes. It's legit good and more what CV4 should have been. There are no whip gimmicks other than a jump+diagonal down attack (I think thats in this game...)
It is yet another 'remake' of the first game but level progression isn't 1:1 with the original.
It's the most polished yet no frills CV game.

>>5184161
What's wrong with Bloodlines?

>>5184583
All the music sounds like someone fucking around with a sequencer for the first time. It's trying to replicate the complexity of baroque but just ends up sounding like aimless off-brand muzak

>>5184593
Why are you even spouting those words, lmao.
Imagine if someone actually used a sequencer for the first time and came up with CV4 OST. Crazy.
I get it though, you don't like it.

>>5184586
>It's legit good and more what CV4 should have been
eh, different games. And yes X68000 has diagonal-down whipping.
IMO this game looks amazing, gameplay is tight but level design is hit or miss. Some good segments, but a lot of it could be much better in the platforming.

>>5184603
Platforming in CV games always strikes me with a feeling of "was this supposed to be as retarded as it is?". I can never tell if its brilliant or just misguided in relation to enemy placements and shit like the platforms that flip when jumped on.

>>5184580
Ok, I used to actually find the soundtrack boring, so I empathize with you a bit.

At some point a switch flipped in my head though, and now I love it, but as an experience to go along with the game, not as something I go and listen to regularly.

>>5183865
SotN is one of my favorite games but x68k is still my favorite non-metroidvania entry in the series.

>>5184161
>objectively

>>5184580
Yeah nah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFtpZS_t0sQ

>>5180846
That's not even better than Dracula X

>>5185508
Yeah nah what? That shit is like a 10 second loop and irritating as hell to listen to.

Fun fact: the creepy dolls say "omae wa dare" (who are you?) and "yamete" (stop) in the original x68k version.

>>5185816
>Fun fact: the creepy dolls say "omae wa dare" (who are you?) and "yamete" (stop) in the original x68k version.
Don't they do this in chronicles also?

>>5186196
No. Chronicles removed those voice clips.

>>5182352
I don't think so, I think Rondo is just a really great game. It's better than 4 and Chronicles, and nobody plays Bloodlines, so that's why it's so highly praised.

>>5183303
Same, but we're talking about classicvania ITT