/vr/ - Retro Games

You didn't get the extra bonus Heart Piece, bro.

>99% completion

Why does it look so hideous? Are you playing on an LCD?

>>516371
This. Get to it, OP.

>>516371
Fuck this slut.

>>516382
Sadly, yes I am. It's the price I pay for living on a college campus. I don't have any room for a CRT

>>516391
And get the bonus Odd Mushroom while you're at it.

>>516371
Wait what

>>516403
I live on a university campus and I have room for two CRTs, the one that came with the room I don't even use.

>>516403
It runs at 20fps or less, so a CRT would be wasted.

>>516391
It's not even possible to get that piece without cheating.

>>516424
I'm pretty sure resourceful use of the hover glitch would make it possible. It's not technically cheating if you're using in-game resources, even if they're engine exploits.

>>516446
If it is possible, I've not seen it done. It'd be difficult, and since it's not supposed to be possible, I wouldn't consider it to be a requirement for a 100% completion.

>>516418
That would be my case if I had money to live in an apartment near or on campus, but I live in dorms. This is literally all the desk space I have, and it's all occupied. I don't even have floor space that I could put one on.

Sorry for the lighting. my roommate is asleep.

>>516403
>>516382
>>516418
console luddites a shit

>>516475
Is that a record player?

>>516475
You could fit a small-ish CRT where the N64 is, which you could put on top of the CRT.

>>516501
Yessir

>>516530
I could, yeah, but I have none at home, and I'll be moving out of the dorms in about two weeks. I don't plan on spending money for that short period.

>>516458
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=944Z3m8k9ss

It's a very old video, so I'm sure there's an even simpler way to do this given how many glitches have been discovered since then, but here you go.

>>516475

Get rid of the fucking record player and you can get a nicely sized CRT.

Good for you OP. I missed one heart piece on my first, most complete file. Always bugged me.

>>516498
Sorry we like playing video games how you don't like

>>516624
Sure dude.Go buy me one, and I will.

Good job. Now do it on Master Quest.

>>516670
Honestly, I'll be giving it a shot if I ever come across a copy. I don't have any intention of emulating it though.

>>516702
Why? Are you a hipster? Or are you just a hipster?

>>516702
>I don't have any intention of emulating it though.
But anon, it was meant to be emulated in the first place. Hell, on the GC it was running on an emulator. In fact, it runs flawlessly on Dolphin.

>>516718
>>516709

disregard, i thought you were replying to a different post, my bad

>>516709

wtf?

the only hipsters are the ones who are against emulation for "muhh original experience"

>>516371

Is there a way to have three rows?

I played this game and 100% it at least three times as a kid and I swear that I had had 21 hearts one time, but I was at the age (bout 8/9) where you can dream something like that and believe it.

>>516718
no way brah u dont get it

playing at 240 x 200 and broken hands with muh controller and blowing out dust in half ruined carts is the only way the games were meant to be played

>>516721
It is. There's a glitch to clone heart pieces, but I think at least on the original hardware, you can only have 23 and a half hearts max... for some reason. Google it.

>>516707
I could've sworn it was actually released for the N64, but shit, maybe I'm wrong.
Anywho, I heard somewhere that the GC re-release was buggier than the original, which is why I wasn't to keen on playing it that way. Though, I haven't talked to anyone who actually owns it.

>>516743
Only way you'd be able to play it on original hardware would be to put the extracted ROM on a flashcart.

>>516743

it was originally for the n64dd which is japan only. so you'll probably never find an original copy.

mq wasn't "meant" to be emulated, it just happens that the gc version is the one most people got a chance to play.

i fucking hate playing oot using a stick for the c-button controls though, i couldn't stand it on the gc and i can't stand it using my dualshock to emulate. i can understand why you wouldn't want to go through that.

and the gc version of master quest is fine, i've still got the disc

>>516736

"just start a new game with the "Start With 20 Hearts" code provided by the Gameshark. Watch the beginning movie and when it's done, save the game and turn it off. Start the game with your guy but without the Gameshark. Go around and pick up a heart container. You should get 21 hearts. Just keep picking up heart containers to get a total of 37 hearts."

I did have a gameshark cart adapter thing, god damn I bet someone in my family messed around with my file and saved it. fuckers.

>>516707
My bad, I completely ignored that last part about dolphin. I'd rather not play it with a PS3 or 360 controller, much less mouse and keyboard, and I don't really have the want to wire up a Gamecube controller.
>>516751
I've thought about that before, for multiple games. The GameShark Pro has a parallel port on the back I always wondered about.

>>516762
The port on the GameShark is good for dumping carts, but not overwriting them, if that's what you were implying.

OoT is my favorite game ever, but man, the reward for getting all the skulltulas is so lame. I guess the feeling of achievement is nice, but really, it should have been something more substantial than unlimited rupees, which are useless at that point in the game anyway

Did you catch a fish that was at least 22 pounds? if you didnt, you're not done

>>516743

You're probably thinking of the collector's edition dic with OOT and MM on it. MM can occasionally crash and the sound is worse sometimes, I have the disc and it crashed on me during the snow temple and I had not returned to the first day after finishing the wood temple either. Shit just stopped me from playing it.

>>516757
The 64DD version was never released, dumbass.

>>516784

sorry, i admit to talking out my ass. though the fact remains that it wasn't developed to be emulated.

>>516757
Well dang, if it does run fine, I'll buy a copy of it sometime, since that's the only logical way to play it.
>>516771
Nah man, I got the golden shitheads before most of the other stuff, so I kept going that guy to do the archery shooting and the bombchu bowling.
>>516775
That was exactly what I was thinking, my plan's ruined.

I played this on an emulator, with a keyboard, so doing the shooting games is pretty much impossible.

>>516771
>implying rupees aren't useless the entire game

>>516779
I did. you can see the golden scale on the right side of the screen near the bottom. Besides, You need to do that in order to get the heart piece in the Lakeside Labratory.

>>516797
The version that was released on the GC probably was. It's far from a drastic change to the game, some minor dungeon rearrangements, with no actual changes to the design. I'm willing to bet it was relatively quickly made over the course of a few months as they were leading up to the release of Wind Waker to cash in on the mystique of the 'lost master quest'. The real Ura Zelda was planned to be a much more in-depth change to OoT, and the fact that the MQ was so shallow leads me to believe that Ura never actually entered development.

I never liked how if you got all the heart pieces, the indent for them in the status screen was empty

Everything else stays filled in when you complete it, but you will always have this big empty heart shaped dent there to mock you.

>not getting the Triforce

Too casual, OP?

>>516813

this, my childhood ocd went fuckin bananas

>>516813

It's to represent your own heart after realizing you will never have that first playthrough experience.

>>516792
>Well dang, if it does run fine, I'll buy a copy of it sometime, since that's the only logical way to play it.
>the only logical way to play it
>logical way
What? Can you even into logic? Try harder when posting next time, brah.

>>516813
and the

triforce

but that's okay you can get it in the light temple I'm really not just making that up, throw a bomb in the middle of ganon's castle and it will take you there I'm totally serious I did it once at a friend's house his dad works for nintendo

>>516814
This so much. None of the stuff Nintendo said they'd be doing with the game on 64DD appeared in the MQ we got, it just felt like a halfhearted romhack. Such a waste...

>>516817
What better way is there to play MQ without wasting my money?

>>516702
Just do it on 3ds
it's the best version of masterquest

>>516845
It's like an exceptionally basic ROM hack. Some of the SM64 hacks made after Vl-Tone's Toad's Tool 64 was released are more interesting than Master Quest.

>>516850
Without wasting money would be downloading a copy of the extracted ROM.

>>516860
I'm not spending $150 for a single game.
>>516865
Someone hasn't read the thread.

>>516771
Rupees are pretty pointless
You never need to buy supplies or potions because unless you're terrible, the ones you get from pots will be all you need


But funnily enough, for the easiest game in the series, rupees are pretty important during Second quest of Skyward Sword, because monsters stop dropping hearts and supplies so you pretty much need to buy them

Why is the Spirit Song and medallion before the Shadow one, if the Shadow temple comes first?

>>516886
I keep forgetting I'm in /vr/ when I mention the 3DS. everyone in /v/ has one because fuck, it's the greatest 8th gen system

>>516906
Because I always do Fire>Forest>Water>Spirit>Shadow
and that order on the quest screen is the best they could do

>>516906

I think it's because Shadow/Light are opposites, like Fire/Water and they probably designed the artwork around that symbolism first before they finalized the order of the temples.

>>516906
You could always avoid going to Kakariko Village until after the Spirit Temple, if it's too bothersome?

>>516912

But you need the bow to shoot the eye switch thing in the fire temple, don't you?

I sometimes did that but I'd always get the items from the temples in the right order and just finish them in a different one.

>>516935
I always hated how Kakariko goes up in flames in that cutscene, but there is no lasting damage, and fucking no one says shit about what just transpired. They clearly cut a corner in development here.

>>516940
Unless there's multiple eyes in that dungeon, the one I'm thinkin about is easy to get around without glitching.

>>516940

No, that's just for the map.

>>516912
That would be the correct order. Once you get to that point in the game, the temptation to go snipe Gerudos is too great to power through Shadow Temple first.

>>516948
that feel when most famous games that are played forever were rushed to be in time for christmas and we will never get a separate "complete" version to see what could have made a masterpiece a ... super-masterpiece

>>516948

>>516948

>They clearly cut a corner in development here.

How so? Having permanent damage or different NPC dialogue might have conflicted with sub quests or pushed the player into getting the shadow temple out of the way just for the sake of clearing up the area.

They probably tried that and realized it doesn't matter too much.

>>516968
Actually Zelda wasn't really rushed, it was delayed.

>>516948

OoT is an unfinished mess. You have that in the village, but also the pointless running man, the pointless Cucco in the windmill, Zora's Domain remaining frozen...And as someone else pointed out, the reward for getting all the skulltulas sucks and they probably didn't have enough time to make it really good.

>>516912
Yeah, that's always how I do it too.

>>517001

I'm glad Ocarina came out when it did. Nowdays games and gamers are so concerned with realism and things having perfect continuity. Which I understand the desire for, but I don't have a problem when games don't make TOTAL sense, like Kakariko remaining normal after that cutscene, it's not that important.

>>516382
I think he just has a really shitty LCD, I've played on an LCD and it didn't look that shitty

>>517003

those are small nitpicks and kinda add to the charm

>>517009
That's a shitty Blackberry with poor lighting.

>>517003

Don't forget the lack of a Light temple.

>>517003

Pretty sure the Cucco in the windmill is there, in case you forgot to get the heart piece in the house with the cow. So you could fly over there with the cucco. could be wrong but that's what i always though

>>516948

I think having all those loose ends in OoT worked in its favor. The whole thing felt much greater and mysterious that way.

>>516382
>>516498
LCDs were already around when the N64 came out, the weren't in wide use yet, but they were around, and I don't think that the N64 was made to utilize the CRT TV the way the older systems where, in fact, I think I even remember an official in store display for the N64 that used a huge hanging LCD TV.

>>517045
oh, forgot this part
in other words, his TV is just shit.

is /vr/ always like this? i've just been around here 3 days and i just keep seeing retarded posts like this

>>517061
It's a mix of good discussion, some occasional shitposting, and fucking ZSNES threads.

>>517061
which post are you referring to?

The game is a masterpiece in the sense that even though they cut a few corners and had to let go of a fuck ton of ambitions, it turned out to be a fun and enthralling game.

We can only imagine how much greater this game could have been without the pressures of muh sales and Nintendo.

>>517045
The game outputs a 4:3 ratio at less than standard resolution. From my experience, that stuff looks better on CRT displays.

>>517037
Yeah, if you know what you're doing you actually throw the cucco up on the construction work and jump from there as Young Link.

>>517072
this thread, feels like something a ledditfag would post

>>516948
When I beat the Water Temple, the first thing I did was grab the Fire Arrows and shoot them in the direction of Kakariko. My friend and I thought it was really funny.

And then we arrived at the village. He turned to look at me with the most horrified look on his face.

>>517003
Did you ever stop to think that maybe they had no plans to unfreeze Zora's Domain?

>>517073

I think it's fine as it is. Sure they could have "refined" it to death if they wanted, but I doubt the things they cut corners on were really that big of a deal. The game is probably better off for it in the end.

>>517097

damn, that's pretty funny

>>517097

>>517092

Sort of, but at least people are talking about the game and the unpopular posts are being refuted rather than buried under muh downvotes.

>>517073
if I remember right, most of the stuff that was cut was not due to sales worries, or even deadline pressures, it was because the game was originally meant for the N64DD, which is an add on that didn't fare very well, also didn't a lot of the things that were cut end up in Majora's Mask anyhow?

Did anybody actually use farore's wind? i never did. i guess it could save same time. but i have the dungeons completely memorized so i feel like it would just confuse me

>>517125
Only in the Forest Temple and the Shadow Temple. You look away for one second, and those fucking hands send you right back to the entrance.

>>517045
Nigga what? It totally made use of CRT tech. The game displays in 320x240p, which on most LCDs handles like shit because they interpret it as 480i, which makes the deinterlacer kick in and adds input lag. The N64 was made for CRTs just as much as all the other consoles that came before it.

>>517125

I've done it once or twice when I've fucked up in the Water temple and missed a key and want to cut out some time backtracking for it.

True patrician order:

Water -> Forest -> Fire -> Spirit -> Shadow

>>517045
>90s
>big LCD
Nope. You're probably thinking of a PDP or RPCRT.

>>517214
I think you mean PCP or RAPTAPE

>>517147
The vast majority of N64 games run at low framerate. CRTs only have their beautifully sharp motion if the frame rate is the same as the refresh rate (eg. like most 3rd and 4th gen. games).

The low framerate also dramatically increases control latency, so the extra latency from an LCD won't be so noticeable.

And N64 games have very blurry textures, so LCD scaling won't be very noticeable either.

>>517097

>>517287
>CRTs only have their beautifully sharp motion if the frame rate is the same as the refresh rate (eg. like most 3rd and 4th gen. games)

The 3rd and 4th gen consoles all are locked to the vertical refresh rate. You can't alter the video registers or data except during that time.

>>516356
Need Triforce

Not technically /vr/, but what about the PS2 and CRTs?

>>517354
There are limitations to what you can do outside of vblank, but changing video registers during the frame lets you do some special effects, eg. the water distortion effect.

And there are some games eg. Prince of Persia (SNES) that run at a low framerate.

>>516616
>Using cheats on a game to get the so-called 37th heart piece.

-10/10

>>517376
PS2 has no anti-aliasing and doesn't support HD. The games are clearer on LCD, but they aren't pretty. Same deal with RGB. Makes the 2d menus super crisp and pretty, but the games a jaggy mess.

>>517287
LCD scaling isn't noticeable my ass. The jaggies are multiplied several times over, and textures look both blurry AND pixelated at the same time. It's an absolute mess.

>>517097

>>517092
personally I think that this sort of mentality is what's ruining 4chan, "oh no, some one posts something that isn't irrationally angry or a troll, must be from rexxit", get over it, seriously, there was a time when it wasn't required for everyone on 4chan to constantly be an angry troll you know.

>>517003
0/10

>>517429
depends on the quality of the TV really

>>517393
>The games are clearer on LCD, but they aren't pretty.
wtf does that even mean

>not getting the triforce

Go back to /v/ you fuckin' casual!

>>516356
Okay, now do the uber challenge. Then clear MM in one cycle.