/vr/ - Retro Games

John Romero was everyone's bitch for making a shitty FPS

Sorry you made me your bitch senpai, I'll do better next time

>>5152593

>Apologize.

Us or Romero? DID he ever apologize for this shit?

No.

>daikatana means “big katana”

fuck you

>>5152593
You know if John never made a company to make Daikatana, their B-Team wouldn’t make Deus Ex. So yes I do apologize

>>5152604
sad

>>5152724
Is this true? I'm going to be building a new gaming PC soon.

>>5152604
I'll never understand this aggressive, borderline religious zeal that people feel about politics.
Besides, if the only important thing you can have in common with others is who you voted for, then you are way too shallow as a person.
Romero only made a bitch of himself.

>>5152604
No wonder Id fired him, he's an NPC.

At least it has an interesting OST. I like this track, it sounds like somebody put a brick in a washing machine and left it on it's slowest setting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItzwMA-KRFE

>>5152604
yikes of the highest degree

>>5152730
Yes, it's no secret that build quality for literally everything past the mid 90s is shit.

>>5152593
The GBC version plays much better.

>>5152920
It's not a "version", it's a different game altogether.

>>5152828
good track

>>5152604
A diet purely of blue pills.

>>5152613
It means 'big sword'. Katana just means sword. Using the word katana to define Japanese longswords is weeb as.

Fuck Romero.

>>5152730
of course it's true, it's the infamous deathstar drive.

Game Boy Color version was worth it.

>>5154069
You can dismiss it as "weeb" if you don't want to think, but that doesn't change the etymology. The katana character is used in compound words with a different reading, but that doesn't make every sword a katana.

>>5154082
why is he so smug

>>5154147
Because he created the engines for some of the greatest games of all time, why the fuck isn't Carmack smug?

>>5154154
damn smug across TWO decades...

>>5152604

>tfw i voted for trump, saw that message the day he posted it, and im still following him

>>5152604
NO :(

>>5154154
He's a confirmed autist who doesn't even like playing deathmatch. After enduring failure after failure he quit the gaming industry outright. His accomplishments were all technical and some in leadership but others formed the actual game design. His engine was very useful at the time but its legacy and influence is unknown, I'm sure they would have figured out how to properly do fps anyway.

>>5152602
He did.

He talked about how much of a wreck it was changing engines and trying to do so much and how it lead to so many staff leaving that he was trying to finish the whole game at the last minute practically alone. He apologize for the advertisements too even though those weren't his idea.

>>5152593
I dunno man its fairly bad. Its not as bad as people say. Andromeda today was way worse of a pile of shit as a game. Daikatana had a few good idea buried in it for its time, but shit the bed due to being overhyped and nobody around to say something was a neat idea but wouldn't work in game or couldn't be designed in reasonable time.

Seriously if someone had said hey good idea but lets make this one simple and put that in the sequel once we get the company going, the damn thing may have worked.

>>5152604
>#HispanicVote
>#tacotuesday

That seems a little #racist.

>>5154173
They couldn't figure out how to program a videogame in a higher language than assembly until he came along.

>>5154173
It was the contention between him and others that led to quake-1's amazing as balls, and unique, atmosphere. I realize it was an accident of sorts but i'll always be grateful.

>>5152593
No. The game was practically finished in the Quake 1 engine and then they went through the grueling effort to convert it all to the Quake 2 engine.
He should have just finished it like that and released it, then try to work on a sequel in the new engine.

>>5152604
I always knew of Romero as very childish and impulsive (and part of that is why I like him), so I actually am not very surprised that he would get swept into that hysteria.
I don't think it's something worth holding against him, and I'm not a fan of him for his political leanings by any means.
The question is if he still feels that way, because I know he can change his tune over time on things, his feuding with Carmack ended not that long after Dai-Katana's failure.

>>5154069
It's a convenient way to distinguish a kind of sword from a specific place and era, which is mostly very distinct from most western swords.
There are also more kinds of Japanese swords than just the stereotypical pattern welded kind with a long and thick curved blade, and since Katana doesn't mean anything else to anyone outside of Japan, it's a good shorthand rather than saying "Japanese Sword", which could actually mean quite a lot of things.

It's a quirk of language.

>>5154309
You know, it's really quite amazing what a mess the development of Quake was, and how it was really just a big pile of compromises among people who were starting to not get along so great anymore, with lots of stalling and delaying, then hurriedly rushed to its deadline, and yet the game STILL came out great and sold fucking gangbusters.

It speaks volumes for the talent of the people involved, because lots of games have come out unbearable messes under similar circumstances.

>>5154232
cry me some salsa

>>5154173
Whoa, this guy is WAY too cool for the room!

>>5154232
You know he's Hispanic himself, right?

>Alfonso John Romero was born in Colorado Springs, Colorado in the United States. He is of Mexican, Yaqui and Cherokee heritage. His mother Ginny delivered him six weeks premature. His parents, married only a few months before, had long been living in hard times. Ginny, good-humored and easygoing, met Alfonso Antonio Romero when they were teenagers in Tucson, Arizona. Alfonso, a first-generation Mexican American, was a maintenance man at an air force base, spending his days fixing air conditioners and heating systems. After Alfonso and Ginny got married, they headed in a 1948 Chrysler with three hundred dollars to Colorado, hoping their interracial relationship would thrive in more tolerant surroundings.

>>5154139
It makes every longsword a katana.

>>5155794
It doesn't, because in the west nobody uses the word Katana to describe any kind of sword but that one Japanese kind.

>>5155762
Taco tahhm!

Big Sword thats a nice title, simple yet effective.

>teenager
>wednesday morning go to the video game shop in town
>see this game in used PC game
>"Made by the same dev who did Doom and Quake!"
>Holy shit! How come I didn't hear of this?!
>go home, install game

>wednesday afternoon
>go back to the video game shop
>sell the game back to the store and lose a few bucks in the process

The GBC version was a good Zelda clone.

>>5156272
More like decent at best

>>5155794

Ask any westerner what they assiciate with the word "katana"

>superior nippon steel, folded 10 million times, sharpest thing in the world, cuts rocks like butter

THE katana through movies etc is almost mythical today. Don't tell them all that folding nad stuff was done to out of the shitty Japanese steel make something halfway usable and especially not that the west used actually the same techniques...

>>5156296
>Don't tell them
If you can manage it without being a sperg, it's quite fun to do. At best it'll even lead to interesting discussions.

>>5152604
Donald Trump made him his bitch

>>5152604
Holy shit what a fag

>>5156296
the real ironic thing is that the folding isn't that big of a deal and it was mostly the technique of using a softer steel back edge packed with clay and only heating and hardening the cutting surface to full temperature that made it such an effective and well balanced slasher

I don’t see what’s wrong with those tweets. He’s a good guy. Very down to earth

>>5152730
I'm an electronic technician and I only see clear examples of programmed obsolescence in household appliances, computer parts of well-known brands should work well for years, they do in my house™... BUT, yeah, hard drives tend to break because nobody reads that they should work at less than 40-45ºC at all times, preferably between 15-30ºC

>>5159225
That makes sense. I was being absolutely retarded and ran a laptop for the most part of a year or so, and that bricked the hard drive.
Expensive to get my stuff back (pic related was actually one of the few files which got damaged/lost, so I didn't loose anything permanently), I hope I'll never do something so abjectly fucking retarded ever again.

Does it differ between an older style one and a solid state one?

It has been over 18 years and Romero still didnt make me his bitch. What the fuck man?

>>5159770
ssds are more durable because no moving parts, also operates in the range of -40-80ºC, I'd try to make it work at 20ºC, with no cooling it will work at 40ºC and temperature affects data retention

>>5152593
>dyke katana

>>5160084
Yeah, that's how I understand it, you'll never get that deathrattle of a drive which has given up.

I bought a new laptop while I was at it, and man, you sometimes don't think about it, but 8 years of development is a LOT, this baby has so much memory, and runs so goddamn cool for so long.
It has its quirks, but I take care to treat it much better than I treated my previous one.

>>5152752
>I'll never understand this aggressive, borderline religious zeal that people feel about politics.

Politics are important and influence people's lives tangibly. When you grow up, you may understand and start to care.

>>5160110
Politics don't belong in some places, or are entirely optional in others.
There's things which for some reason are really political, but fucking shouldn't be.

You'll rot your fucking brain if you're in this high gear histrionic stress cycle that people worked themselves into since the 2016 election, you need to relax your mind.

>>5152604
Cringe

>>5160110
>hurr durr ur a kiddo
What a mature argument.

>>5160126
He's right though, tuck your prolapse back in

>>5152602

Romero was ridiculed for years because of that turd. Apology no longer required because of the pounding he took afterward.

>>5152593
my b

>>5160143
I'm old enough to have listened to Brezhnev live, but you're telling me that the only worthy common ground you can have with others is which robber baron you voted for.
Who needs to grow up exactly?

>>5160171
How old were you when you realized he was never sober, and all but needed a forklift to be moved from place to place?

>>5160173
About eightish? It wasn't exactly a state secret.

>>5160176
I admit I haven't studied that part in close detail. This was before Glasnost, right? They kind of just didn't silence criticism or jokes about this at that point, out of like, apathy?

>>5160178
Glasnost was after Brezhnev died, during Gorbachev.
>They kind of just didn't silence criticism or jokes about this at that point, out of like, apathy?
I can only speak for Hungary, but even before the Glasnost you had some prolific stand up comedian making fun of the state figures and communism. It was mostly seen as a safe way to let people laugh at their problems, vent some steam, to get it out of their system and then go back to their lives. Then again, after '56 not many felt like getting too uppity anyway, even if the draconian measures eased up relatively fast. Happiest barrack/goulash communism and all that jazz.
I'm sure poles or estonians have a different view of their time behind the iron courtain though.

>>5160107
>but 8 years of development is a LOT, this baby has so much memory, and runs so goddamn cool for so long.
>It has its quirks, but I take care to treat it much better than I treated my previous one.
Nigger, I occasionally buy new mid-range notebooks at work for our employees.
And I have yet to find a single fucking model that doesn't spin up its fan at basically ALL TIMES.
The worst one was an ASUS piece of shit last year, which cost more than a thousand dollars and was fucking beautiful. It also had a hidden fan that ran with a high-pitched screech PERMANENTLY, at 3000 fucking rounds per minute.

Also, nowadays you need 4GB of RAM (which have become hilariously expensive), a desktop-Celeron-tier CPU (which has become feasible on notebooks ever since AMD started buttfucking Intel, after those fucking five years where there was literally no tangible performance gain in newer CPUs) and an SSD for smooth basic Windows usage.
Bump up the various attributes if you have special needs, like 8GB of RAM if you enjoy having more than ten tabs open, a better CPU if you actually use your CPU for something (which basically no one does nowadays) or a cheaper setup if you run Linux. Good luck with the drivers for Linux, though.

>>5160271
The whole point of fans is to keep your laptop cool so it doesn't die. If you want a quiet laptop that will die fast, go be an apple fag somewhere else >>>/g/ . NOT RETRO.

>>5160295
Are you retarded?

I don't even need to point out your tripfagging. Your post alone stands for itself.

>>5160113
Politics don't belong where? Are you dumb as a rock? They belong pretty much everywhere. Including your own private Twitter account, but I'm sure your fascist ass would rather everyone just be misled and lied to by the president and a bunch of conservative losers so they can make more money off your backs

>>5160271
>And I have yet to find a single fucking model that doesn't spin up its fan at basically ALL TIMES.
My Acer runs cool and quiet for hours on end

>>5160332
You'll grow out of it kid. Sooner or later you'll realize they all lie to you, every single one of them is a dyed in the wool crook, even the one you look up to. None of them have your interest in mind and you're better off not indulging them, because they will only hurt you and everyone else.

>>5160332
>this post

>>5160332
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>>5160332

This has to be bait.

>>5152604
How far the mighty have fallen

>>5159225
>programmed obsolescence in household appliances

You mean engineered, right? Most household appliances were perfect years and years ago, I never got why they had to put so much bloat in there.

>>5159770
Back up your shit.

>>5160747
Yeah, I do that now. I learned that lesson the bitter and hard way.

>>5160746
I mean, they are build to break after x years, I don't know how much the goverment control this in usa but here where I live (a third world shit hole) we are still using crt with wood panels besides the latests lcds ensambled here, and I assure you that crt will keep working when that lcd blow apart in two years

Is probably better than Quake II.

>>5161686
Quake 2 is unironically a good game.