/vr/ - Retro Games

Anyone know why the image that appears on my CRT appears to shift position, and sometimes gets partly cut off, depending on what source I feed it?
eg. SNES via RGB is slightly off center but mostly fills the screen, while GameCube via YPbPr gets cut off on one side and leaves a fairly wide black bar on the other.

>>5120886
Different consoles use different sync timings and start drawing to the raster at different times than others, sometimes differing even between games (this is more a case of using a lower resolution rather than sync timing however).

>>5120856
Progress! I'll take quality pictures once the colors are sorted out.

>>5120892
Thanks for the explanation.
I was debating fiddling with the settings to try and fix the issue, but my CRT is a BVM I got as an ex-service unit from a TV station- which was presumably calibrated by a professional; and I don't know what I'm doing, so it'd probably be like trying to fix a smudge on a wedding cake with a shovel.

>>5120903
needs just a little bit more red

>>5121028
Resistance needs to be lowered for all three colors.

What systems do you use the most on your CRTs? Wii?

>>5120913
Depending on the model of BVM, you may have multiple "channels" available to have different settings for different consoles.

>>5120903
You mind showing the circuit you made/modified for that, and the micom/jungle it's paired with?

>>5121051
Varies, both by CRT in question and just by mood.

Genesis gets a lot of love, but so does the Playstation.

Recently, Ninty Switch on FW

>>5121075
>FW
?
That some kind of downscaler?

>>5121079
Sony GDM-FW900

>>5120878
see, composite really is how it's meant to be played, look at that lovely waterfall

>>5121051
I have a large s-video-capable consumer set so I use my Genesis (modded) with an Everdrive the most. I also have a modded PSOne.

>>5121051
genesis

>>5121051
Playstation

>>5121319
but anon, it's RGB (ツ)

>>5121075
>>5121354
>>5121357
Holy shit, Sega/Sony dominance

>>5121367
I have a handful of other systems lying around but the Playstation is the only one that interests me. To be fair, the only games I have on the other systems are games I've owned for 20 years now, whereas with the Playstation I'm downloading and burning games as I play through them. I'm not in to retro gaming purely for nostalgia, most of the fun comes from playing games I never played when they were new.
I guess I play old pc games on a crt about as often as I play Playstation games.

>>5121389
>I'm not in to retro gaming purely for nostalgia, most of the fun comes from playing games I never played when they were new.
Same, that's why I've been exploring the Genesis library a lot lately. I could've got an SD2SNES instead of a Mega Everdrive but I've played SNES my whole life. I've discovered so many amazing games for the Genesis, like the Shinobi and Thunderforce series and Elemental Master.

>>5121398
Same here. I had a Genesis as a kid and I still have my original system, but there are a ton of games I never played or even heard of back then. That's my favorite part about all the old consoles. That feeling of only having a relatively small number of games as a kid and now being able to go out and buy a ton of them for dirt cheap (well, less so now than a couple years ago, but you get my point)

Gonna finally buy one of those chink mega everdrive clones for 25 dollarydoos. I've been meaning to buy one for a while now but never got around to it. I have a few genesis shmups like Thunderforce 3+4, Phelios, Granada, and Hellfire, but there are a TON I've never played because they're all so expensive.

>>5121358
>>5121319
Trufax

>>5120856
lol, don’t strain your eyes m8

>>5121737
>not enjoying sets of all sizes

>>5121797
kya you should give us a house tour

>tfw want to call to inquire availability of a set but have massive phone anxiety

>>5121894
Just call, you faggot.

I cannot for the life of me get the colors of this KV-24FS100 right. No matter what I try fiddling with, I can't get a proper magenta or deep rich blue. Instead its always hot neon pink and a bright orangish red, and everything I try doing to correct these doesnt make a single difference, while also throwing all the other colors out of whack

>>5121908
Deep rich red, I mean. All the stuff that should be red looks orangish instead

>>5121082
>Sony GDM-FW900
How do you get your vidya to your GDM? I have been looking at various options for my GDM, and most require complex things in between. I am very curious to see if you know of a simple method.

Can CRT TVs from Australia display games from North America? I'm moving to Oz and I want to bring something like my NES. I'm wondering if I have power converters if thats sufficient or will I still not be able to play the games.

>>5121826
"This room is too hot or maybe it's too cold. If a room is occasionally entered by other people, there's a 95% chance it's trashed and disgusting. The End."
If everything wasn't so horribly lit, I'd have possibly done a room tour already.

>>5121956
I've got a Key Digital KD-CTCA3 transcoder for component sources, and a cheap ~$15 HDMI->VGA DAC.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003O55U8K/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyWctDDVa6Y
This is via the latter.

>>5121970
Stepdown converters will work for your consoles. For the TV side of things, you just need to find a set which supports NTSC encoding. Europe had loads, Kangaroo Land likely not as many but should still have a decent amount.

>>5122018
>encoding
decoding, rather

>>5120856
Hey guys. Anything good here? Doesn't seem like it but you guys know CRT's better than me.

https://detroit.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=CRT&sort=rel

>>5122018
>KD-CTCA3
Is this lagless? I had a cheap component to VGA adapter a few years ago, and it was not all that great and there was some "intensity" loss across the board. Colors were somewhat bland.

>>5121908
You won't have a "blue only" option on that set so trying to calibrate to an SMPTE test card will be tricky to say the least.

Use a PLUGE pattern instead. Adjust so all the elements appear neutral. Gain adjusts the highlights and bias adjusts the shadows.

>>5120856
>7 Days before Halloween, but no Poltergeist OP pic.

I am saddened OP.

>>5121398
I'm just the opposite, teenage years on Genesis and missed the SNES. Have been exploring SNES library lately, it would be a shame to stay a brandfag and miss all the good games that were on the other system.

If you like beat em ups, try battletoads double dragon on genesis, really good game.

>>5122032
Also found these. Would love some input.

https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/ele/d/sony-fd-trinitron-wega-tv/6724310436.html

https://flint.craigslist.org/vgm/d/sony-pvm-monitors-8-and-20/6710933881.html

I mean I'd want the PVM but is the first first one good too?

>>5122032
Any of those black sony trinitrons will be good. Try to get one with component and s-video if possible. You might have to ask the seller what hookups they have. Also facebook marketplace is a good place to check.

Also, instead of just searching "CRT" search "tv" or "tube tv" "box tv" etc. Normies generally don't call them CRT.

>>5122060
1st is OK, but the black curved trinitrons would be better. 2nd is probably ok if you're ok with the damage. Try to get it for less money though, offer him $150 and you might get it for $200. Also you might be able to trade some extra games if you have duplicates.

>>5122060
just get this one
https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/ele/d/sony-wega-trinitron-32/6711088596.html

>>5122047
I prefer to stick with vider gam OPs, so if anything I'd have went with a throwback to an old thread with Ghouls'n Ghosts if I'd thought of it.

>>5122060
You don't want the first one; It's an HD model and scales everything to 1080i.
The 1953 would be a nice set, but for something so badly damaged, I'd definitely want a decent chunk off of that asking.
From the broad craigslist link, that KV-32S42 would be a nice set if you don't mind dealing with something so large. The S-Video input on it would be nice. Would try to talk them down a bit first though. The 27'' black Sony could also be decent, but you'd have to message them to work out what it might have input wise. >>5122084 would also be a nice set, but do keep in mind they're both going to be quite heavy; the S42 is ~140lb, and the FS100 is ~165.

>>5122043
Entirely so, yes. Any proper dedicated transcoder will be; The only time you'd run into a problem is if you ended up with something that scales/processes the image. For the Key Digital, input = output, and the only option you get on it is the sync output type.

>>5122060
The guy posted that ad for the pvms almost a month ago. Offer him $150 for the 20" and go from there.

>>5122069
Those that first WEGA is good? I just built a PC and honestly don't have the cash for that PVM right this moment. I'm sure that one has component and s-video but I will ask hi.

Will check facebook market place though.

>>5122074
Yeah. I'd love that second one. But gotta wait for my next check.

>>5122084
You'd prefer that over her?https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/ele/d/sony-fd-trinitron-wega-tv/6724310436.html

Why is that? Also, thanks anon.

>>5122091
Thanks for the reply. You're right about the HD. I am using these to play six gen games and that would fuck things up.

Will of coruse try to talk down on those. I like the KV-32S42 but it's a big boy. Might go for that 27" Sony then. Cheers.

Thanks guys.

https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/ele/d/sony-wega-trinitron-32/6711088596.html

https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/ele/d/sony-32-inch-color-tv/6706827348.html

https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/ele/d/sony-27-trinitron-tv-crt/6710847713.html

I'm between these three but I think that Sony 27' is what I'm leaning towards. Emailing him now. Off to facebook then too.

>>5121797
>you can fit 4 GXs inside 1 Megaview

How is this? Found it in my basement, recently moved back home. Picture is kinda shit. Is this a bad model?

>>5122256
Forgive my ugly mug. Pretty fucking unflattering picture.

>>5122256
>curved toshiba
probably decent
nobodys going to help you RGB mod it so don't even ask

>>5122291
Kek. I didn't plan on it. Really I'm just using this to play the Silent Hill series, it's something I do every October.

>>5122116
>You'd prefer that over her?https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/ele/d/sony-fd-trinitron-wega-tv/6724310436.html
that one is HD

HP P1130 with Trinitron tubes. Use it for PS2/N64 emulation. Also, it's up for grabs atm.

>>5122046
I can turn off red and green in the service menu. Ive gone through the normal calibration getting all the bars to match up when blue-only, but I still have hot pink rather than magenta, along with that bright almost orangish bloomed red. Not sure what the fix is.

>>5122375
And heres what red-only looks like, showing the problem. Right two bars (magenta and red) are fat too bright. I have no idea what setting I'm supposed to use to correct this

>>5122375
have you checked this one?

>>5122256
Looks older, probably a mid 90s set. Later Toshibas were pretty dang good.

Why is my PVM darker when I turn it on?
It needs like 5-10 minutes to reach the brightness it's supposed to have.

Anything I can change or should be worried about?

>>5122391
Cameras not picking it up very well, but here that is.

RCUT seems to be the main dictator of how much red in the image, but its acting quite strangely. Any value from 130 down to 50 doesnt seem to cause any change in the amount of red on screen. Then I go from 50 to 40 and it cuts out completely, like a binary on/off. But its also delayed, like ill go down to 40 and then it takes like 20 or so seconds for the red to slowly fade into nothing

>>5122403
I don't know much about PVMs but it's probably just the tubes warming up

>>5122403
All CRTs are like that and need to "warm up". But in my experience PVMs usually warm up much faster.

>>5122418
>>5122425
Well it's a very old model (2044QM) so it could just be it's age.
At least I now know I can't do anything and that it's not broken.
Thanks guys.

>>5122436
Could be a symptom of a failing capacitor if it takes significantly longer than usual? Not really sure, but IMO as long as the thing still runs I wouldnt do something like a recap. Too much effort and too dangerous. Maybe something to look into if it eventually fails

>>5122441
Yeah, no.
I'm not messing with capacitors.
I don't trust my soldering skill that much.
I'll keep using it like this and only if it dies I'll try to mess with it after making ABSOLUTELY sure it's completely discharged.
At that point I'll either fix it or it stays dead. Not much to lose, and I doubt I'll ring someone who might know how to repair it.

>>5122060
game?

>>5122417
Turn down the bias and turn up the cutoff for red

>>5122596
Bias? Is that the same thing as drive?

>>5122395
Any quick way to ID a later model Toshiba from looking at it? Cosmetic differences between those and the one I have now?

>>5122635
ye

>>5122714
these are the newer and about the best toshiba sets made. They came in a whole bunch of sizes, and a few seconds searching on my craigslist found 5 of them

>>5122801
Will keep an eye out. thanks.

>>5122714
Sleeker button designs are a pretty easy way to spot a newer sets. Dead giveaways are flat screens or built in DVD players, though like the other anon posted you can definitely find later CRT sets without those.

>>5122801
Other anon here. How do these early aught Toshiba's stack up against the Sony's and other consumer grade tv's of that time?

Before we switched to LCD and the like at my house. Our fuck off huge living room tv was a Toshiba and I know my I had a Sony.

>>5122596
>>5122792

Well, red drive is literally as low as can be allowed and red cutoff is cranked way high. Still no dice. Reds still appear way too bright like pinkish orangish reds rather than deep reds where intended.

>>5122869
can you crank up the values of the other guns, and then also lower overall brightness? If that doesn't fix, you've got electrical issues my friend

>>5122869
>red drive is literally as low as can be allowed and red cutoff is cranked way high
There's your problem then. Both those controls are additive so increasing "cutoff" is actually reducing the amount of red (in the darker areas).

A lot of CRT terminology is frustratingly ass-backwards.

>>5122879
I think I tried that and just ended up having a very "cool" bluish greenish image. Ill try it again. Should I crank up green drive and blue drive? What about the cutoffs?

>>5122884
>Reducing
I mean increasing.

I need my morning espresso.

>>5122884
Thanks for the clarificatio . Unfortunately so far it seems like every combination of fiddling with the red controls doesnt solve the issue anyway though. I can have more or less hot neon orangish red, but cant seem to shift the red over to being correct.

Fiddling with options though, i found this one called AXIS that oddly seems to be a color adjustment. Any clue what its function is supposed to be?

I think my crt just died on me. The picture started squishing itself from the bottom and then it shut off, now it won't turn on.
F

>>5122918
F

>>5122904
You could have a color purity issue, and perhaps AXIS affects the yoke in some way

>>5122948
You'd think axis would have something to do with the yoke, but its instead some sort of color adjustment. I don't get it at all, it makes the image warmer and warmer and then suddenly flips to a greenish tinge.

As for a color purity issue, is that something that can be fixed without too much pain and suffering? If not, its okay. I'm okay with the screen color being off if nothing can be done; it's just that i'd like to get it right if that's achievable. If not, salmon colired enemies are acceptable

>>5122959
best advise I can offer is to find some literature on it; the service manual should tell you what all the functions of the service menu are, and there are some good places on how to calibrate color on a crt.

>>5121797
God I miss my GX..

I should buy this RCA and then do some bodywork to make people think that it's a megaview, then sell it on ebay for megadosh

Does anyone have an idea what might make a sony computer monitor flicker for a second every once in a while. It sounds and looks like it's powering off and on very quickly
. I've got it hooked up as a second monitor and it keeps doing it. It's probably the first time it's been plugged in in 10 years at least. I bought it second hand so I don't know if it's an old problem or not,

>>5121956
cute keyboard

>>5123045
auto degauss?

>>5123045
sync problem

>>5123090
It definitely sounds like a degaussing. How would I adjust that?
>>5123092
This sounds related too. It definitely stopped doing it as often when I changed the password resolution.

>>5123102
>>5123092
>>5123090
>>5123045
Okay I feel a little better, I tried another monitor and it has the same problem. I doubt these two monitors I got from two different places have the same problem. Does anyone know what the resolution problem might be or what the hell I'm doing wrong. Every resolution seems to have the same issue, but the different resolutions have intervals of different lengths before flickering /degaussing

>>5122904

I've read AXNT might help your red push as well if that is what you're experiencing.

>>5122991
What happened to it?

>>5122091
>The only time you'd run into a problem is if you ended up with something that scales/processes the image.
I may have to try this method. Thanks again for the great info!

>>5123073
>cute keyboard
Thanks. $1 at a local thrift shop. No drivers for it for windows 7 however, so all the cool buttons either do the wrong thing, or just don't work at all. I had a black one back in the day, but I left it in my car one hot summer day during a move, and it absorb all the sun's energy and warped to the shape of a letter "L". It will be missed. I just recently upgraded out of a beige PC case, so it may be time to think about a USB keyboard. I hear they are the future. I do enjoy typing 140+wpm because it sounds like a popcorn machine.

>>5123197
>I had a black one back in the day
ayy

>>5122258
You look beautiful, anon

>>5122904
AXIS is R-Y phase offset. Is it way off the default setting of 48?

>>5122580
Not him but I Spy Spooky Mansion. my fucking childhood mang.

>>5123593
oh fuck, there were so many good eye spy games and now I just realized that I'm certain I don't have the discs for them anymore and it might be impossible for my kids to play them

How would you get a scratch off a Trinitron's screen?

>>5123893

>>5123870
pirate them

>>5123256
>ayy
NICE! My black one died perhaps 10-12 years ago. That is sexy AF anon! It was the first keyboard I bought in 2000 when I got my first laptop. It will be missed, but I replaced it with a non-problematic white one.

>>5123893
>How would you get a scratch off a Trinitron's screen?
Is it glass, or a plastic glare coat?

>>5124030
Good question. I'm not sure. I have to wash it down eventually with non conductive fluid to clean the insides. When I begin working on it I'll ask again. What would be the procedure for each?

>>5124030
I got this one from a friend who was thinking of just tossing it. It's actually quite nice for what it is. I'll admit, I've been thinking of getting a newer, mechanical board at some point, at which point I think it would be fitting to pair it with my thinkpad.

>>5124057
>What would be the procedure for each?

>glass
Shits fuk'd m8; Alternatively, risk attempting to buff out and polish it. If there's a spray anti-glare coat, have fun removing it from the entire face

>plastic
Grip & Rip. Essentially get at the tube face, at the areas behind the bezel, and remove the sheet of plastic which will hopefully be the only part scratched. Enjoy reassembly, and enjoy scratch free but now unprotected and more prone to glare screen.

How bad of a scratch is it, and where at on the screen?

>>5124057
>What would be the procedure for each?
What is the model number of the trinitron? I don't know if the TVs have a glare coating or not, but some of the PC monitors do. I have never owned a Trinitron TV, but I did remove the coating from a GDM monitor, and it was easy because it was a plastic sheet.

Hey Kya - Megaview poster here
How long does it take your Megaview to warm up? Mine takes a long time, upwards of an hour for correct color / brightness / focus. It needs a recap for sure but are you getting similar times?

Also you see the one that went up on eBay for $4k? Lol

>>5124345
Decently usable with in a few minutes, about what you'd expect from any set really. Obviously takes a little while to settle in, but that's going to happen for any set, hueg or not. Mine does or at least did have some quirks which I'm pretty sure are cap related to some artifacting that would randomly crop up at times; Hard to properly describe to be honest.

And no, I hadn't seen it. It does confirm beyond a shadow of a doubt who they are however, and that they're entirely and solely a reseller and will also parrot just about whatever information they're told.

crt I've got a vhs problem. I got a new s-vhs player to replace a broken one, but this new one won't display anything. The audio works when I plug it into a stereo and by all means it looks like the thing is working, but no video is coming out of the s-video or composite. I tried plugging in the vhs to the tv with coax and tuning to channel 3 but I just got random color. It's not crt related but the hobbies go hand in hand, so anybody know what the problem is? I don't think it's dirty heads

I know this isn't quite what this thread is about, but any advice on repairing an old CRT PC monitor? I have an old one that used to be really nice and I want to play some old PC games on it, but nowadays the screen is really dim and it makes a really high pitched squeal when it's on. Is it worth trying to fix or should I just find another one?

>>5124475
ain't worth it. complexity of a pc monitor is the complexity of a tv times 10. Unless you want to *recap* just move on. There's plenty out there because the normals don't care about them yet

>>5124475
ayyy, me too. No squeal but it's way dim and washed out. anyone have any tips? I'm comfortable doing board level repair work if someone wants to point me in the right direction.

>>5124595
Is recapping the extent of the work needed?

>>5124607
honestly I have no idea. you can hope that its just capacitor issues, but it could quite possibly be issues that are literally unfixable.

>>5120856
I just got zapped by a CRT. AMA.

>>5124728
Are your finger tips numb?

>>5124737
No, it was a light zap.

>>5124728
zap it back

>>5124728
>>5124741
You're lucky you aren't dead

Sorry for asking a question without posting pics, I do realize that's retarded, but I got 2 crts from Goodwill recently. They looked perfectly fine when plugged in at the store, but when I took it home, I noticed when they were plugged in if you look really close at the screen when its plugged in(not just game systems but the entire tv itself without any external plugs) it looks a bit like shaky or wavy I guess you could say. I tried putting it in a different room, even a different house but I can't seem to get rid of it. I tried looking up wavy or shaky lines but they seem to be more serious problems where the picture is going off screen. Mine is barely noticeable on the small crt from faraway, but on the 32 inch crt I can notice it alot and its really annoying. Any idea what this is? I keep thinking its Interference but my old CRT in my one room(yes i tried plugging the new ones in there, no effect) works completely fine with no wavy/shaky lines. Any idea what this is or how to fix it?

TL;DR If possible please help out this retard who didnt even post pics

Can you hook up an nes to a trinitron pvm with just the two audio video cables?

>>5124874
I get a shaky picture on my TVs but only when I have both side-by-side and turned on.

Sounds like something you can fix by degaussing it.

>>5124887
What do you mean? NES only outputs mono so you have one one cable for the composite video and one for the mono sound. But PVMs only do mono sound anyway, so that's fine.

Unless you're asking specifically about using audio RCA cables. All RCA cables are the same. You can use a red cable for composite video or a yellow cable for sound. Doesn't matter at all.

>>5124902
Okay, do I need a converter for the two av cables then?

>>5124928
you need a rca to bnc adapter for the composite video
but yeah I really enjoy playing my NES on a pvm because I can use the built in mono for once

Here's a similar question. How do i use the built in speaker on a jvc monitor with one of those scart expansion cards in it. Right now the only way I have can get sound out of the setup is to use the two rca jacks with external speakers.

>>5124934
Thanks anon

>>5124947
you use external speakers, the card doesn't pass through audio to the monitor

>>5122918
F

I have a CRT sitting up unused pretty much specifically because it started displaying symptoms of imminent failure. F

Found this old VGA monitor for $4 bucks and it's awesome. I also plan to get an HDMI/VGA adapter for some other hardware that's not yet considered Retro, but using it would be amazing.
GameCube as well as XBOX and PS2

>>5125025
Found this old VGA monitor for $4 bucks and it's awesome. I also plan to get an HDMI/VGA adapter for some other hardware that's not yet considered Retro, but using it would be amazing.
GameCube as well as XBOX and PS2

I thought dead crts were a meme, since all of them that we had in the past were just fine, we used to have one rca from 85' and never gived up. This year my 14" samsung from 04' died. They are not forever :(

1990 32" Sony Trinitron XBR

>>5124728
How did it happen? What should I avoid so this doesn't happen when I service my own CRT?

>>5124928
>>5124934
Oh, you're asking about the BNC cables. Yeah, anyone with a PVM should pick up one of those pretty cheap packs of RCA-BNC adapters. They're very handy whether it's for hooking up composite sources or component video or being able to daisy chain to other TVs without needing BNC cables.

I'm seeing phantom trinitron raster cables looking at my lcd screen

>>5125061
Why do people play like this? It looks like such trash

>>5120856
>tfw CRTs trigger the McCollough effect in me now
don't fall for the memes kids

>>5125978

>>5124393
The inside of this bitch is like new, not a spec of dust. The thing isn't putting out any video signal at all. Not just a 'fuzzy' image, NO image. What the hell could be wrong, how could it still be playing audio?

You guys would probably know best. I want to connect to a VGA CRT monitor, but my new (nvidia) graphics card doesn't have any analogue video connections. What are my options when using older cards for their VGA output? I've got some seriously old stuff laying around, but I doubt that will work.

>>5126867
display port to vga converter

>>5126867
This >>5126975
Almost all of them are zero lag and it looks stellar when you have something like a emulators. I generally just like to run old BIOS's just to see them run. It's actually really comfy to see SegaCD, Famicom, and N64DD BIOS's just running on the screen, of course line doubled to 640x480 to see those beautiful scan-lines.

>>5126975
>>5126990
Any recommendations? I really want to avoid a laggy one.

>>5127141
According to a customer review this one has no lag, seems promising and has audio support via 3.5mm

>>5127189
Forgot link...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MS611LJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_ld-0BbQTNF109

>>5127194
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MS611LJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_ld-0BbQTNF109

that's HDMI...I thought we said DP?

>>5127226
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075M661NC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_1G-0BbQ3P7X4D

hey ya'll, guy who setup GBI on his GCN and was disappointed by how shitty it looked in comparison to reg GBP. plopped some svideo cables in that i got off ebay. They make all my shit look fucking fantastic. here's metroid fusion looking crisp. Not even going to bother seeing what it looks like on standard GBP since i know i'll be disappointed in how little of a difference there is.

btw some guy said my colors bleed like fuck, do you think they do?

>>5127238
Nah. That look beautiful Anon.

>>5127243
i hope so, i spent a fuck ton of time trying to get my geometry and coloring just right. kind of upset that switching over to a different input kind of changes up the screens geometry ever so slightly

>>5127238
wtf is gbi?

>>5127261
idk the nitty gritty
http://retrorgb.com/gameboyinterface.html

>>5127261
alternative homebrew software for the gamecube gameboy player
the stock disc has a shitload of lag and stutters

>>5127276
probably going to buy pic related, any pros or cons ya'll want to throw in there for me? Idc much about collecting physical copies of gba games and just want to leave one cartridge in my gbp forever. figure this should be the perfect solution.

>>5127319
I remember something about a physical switch activating the gbc/gba boot dichotomy, you should look into that if you wanted to play the gbc/gb library as well. They probably have a workaround in there

>>5127408
i'm now thinking about just getting the gameboy x7 since its more complete, has like perfect compatibility and savestates(not that i'd use them). and wait for the gbax7 to come out since i read the internal clock fucks around with stuff especially pokemon

>>5125978
It's the way everyone played at the time the game came out? Actually even better because S-Video. I really wish this TV had component or I had the knowledge to mod it. I'm bad at getting pictures but this one is pretty good, I have more of PS2/GC stuff

>>5127412
internal clock isn't required since you can just patch the rom, this one adds a clock in every pokemon center you can change.
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3927/

>>5127141
>>5127226
It's not important if you want something to "just werk" but if you want to push higher than 1080p60 or so, you're going to want to go for something like this. If you're using a digital only GPU with a somewhat higher end PC CRT, it's pretty much a requirement to get the most out of the monitor.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JARYTVK/

>>5127319
doesn't fit entirely inside the GBA, looks kinda uglym oretty exoebsuve.
I use an EZ Flash IV, works alright, quite a bit cheaper, same size as real cart so no poking out, not quite as compatible as everdrive though, a bit slow to load and no RTC.

>>5127319
doesn't fit entirely inside the GBA, looks kinda ugly and pretty expensive.
I use an EZ Flash IV, works alright, quite a bit cheaper, same size as real cart so no poking out, not quite as compatible as everdrive though, a bit slow to load and no RTC.

>>5124874
does the entire screen shake? What about the menu? Does the menu text shake?

Hey goys, having a debate with my friend. I'm saying that if you send a standard 15khz signal from a dvd player straight to a 31khz pc crt monitor via direct vga or by converting the signal from component to vga (no additional upscaling) that it will fry the pc crt. He says it won't, can anyone in here weigh in?


Thanks

>>5128240

oh my god you CANT JUST FEED 15KHZ TO A 31KHZ CRT

THATS HOW CHERNOBYL HABBENED

>>5127584
It's a FW900, and I used 1440x900@120 most often. I'm guessing the cheap one won't be able to pull it off?

>>5124728
>I just got zapped by a CRT. AMA.
Were you following some dumb ass RGB mod video? Did you "Ground it" to the frame even though the frame was totally insulted to the ground?

>>5128240
It won't fry the monitor, it'll either just throw an "Out of Range" error up on the screen, or just do nothing at all.

>>5128340
Going with the Sunix would be advisable. Essentially all the cheap ones shit out if you try pushing anything requiring a decent amount of bandwidth, where as the Sunix works fine up into the 300mhz+ range.

>>5128240
No, you have it backwards. If you feed a 31kHz signal to a 15kHz set it will fry it.

GDM FW900 Question

I have convergence issues. They remain unchanged over the last few years, and Honestly I never noticed them before. This site has made me autistic as fuck, and I would love to look into resolving it.

The right 1/3 of the screen is off, while the left 2/3rds are spot on. It is not off by much, and the average person wouldn't see it. I doubt it would show in a picture....and I honestly can continue to enjoy it as-is. But what would be the solution to fixing this if I was so inclined?

>>5128396
windas

>>5128396
this post actually makes me happy that I have the HP variant of the monitor, then, because all these adjustments are fully accessible through the menu with these buttons on the bottom of the monitor

>>5128425
>windas
Does windas offer adjustment for something like this?

>>5128580
>this post actually makes me happy that I have the HP variant of the monitor, then, because all these adjustments are fully accessible through the menu with these buttons on the bottom of the monitor
I have the same OSD as the HP variant. I just am having minor convergence issues.

>>5128586
I guess I can just ignore the small inconsistencies that the menu can't fix, then

>>5128581
It lets you adjust convergence at like 100 different points on the screen individually

>>5128626
>It lets you adjust convergence at like 100 different points on the screen individually
I will have use it. I have all the software for screen color calibration and the usb cable. I may have to just hook it to another pc. and give it a go.

>>5127319
>'ll want to throw in there for me? Idc much about collecting physical
Great flashcart, the only downside is that it sticks out.

>>5127408
You don't have to do anything, the launcher is built in now. Do know that gb and gbc are ran from emulators but you likely won't notice.

>>5128628
What exactly is the Windas USB cable?

can someone link me windas? I googled it and got some weird shit

>>5128768
USB to TTL

>>5128776
This should be a pre-setup VM for using windas.

>>5128817
wtf does that mean?

>>5128817
>>5128821
Don't mind me, I have brain damage.

https://pixeldra.in/u/2IEFfO

WinDAS won't run on anything newer than XP, so for anything newer, it needs to be run via a VM with passthrough. Someone on the server setup a preconfigured VM which should have everything ready to go.

Man, I wish I lived on the west coast:
https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/59315595

>>5128783
Ah lovely, thanks.

I live in Argentina, there isn't a single recorded sale of any quality CRT monitor in the country's internet. Did Sony or Mitsubishi even export their top models to South America? Will hunting through hospitals and government facilities be a waste of time? There are obviously your shitty Samsung and LG $30 CRTs on sale everywhere, even i have one or two CRT tv's in decent condition, but those are so bad i'd rather use an LCD. Maybe delusional but i'm willing to save whatever amount of money it takes to personally talk to whoever i have to talk to at Sony for them to make me a brand new FW-900.

>>5128973
m8 nobody is making new crt's nowadays. Not even the poos are anymore.

>>5128985
I am aware. Again, i'd live out of rice and water in a one-room apartment for 10 years if it meant that i could afford the whole manufacture of a single FD-900.

>>5128990
Never gonna happen. It's an entirely different ecosystem of parts that have not been in production for decade(s). You'd need to have multiple factories starting up to build niche components specifically for CRTs. It's dead, Jim.

Best to just enjoy them why they still exist, in whatever capacity is available to you. And when eventually all the phosphors burn out, just switch over to an upscaler or line doubler.

>>5122991
I’m curious, what is a GX?

Widescreen SD crt's
What do they look like

>>5129379
We had one at until 3 years ago I think
It's like your standard CRT but 16:9

>>5128872
Coming soon to a reseller near you!™

>>5129379
they're wide and extremely heavy. a crt i used to own, a hd panasonic widescreen, needed two people to move it, and even then it was a struggle for two people.

>>5129935
*scalps your path*

>>5129935
*scalps your path*

>>5124728
This happened to me a lot when I was a kid.
SERIOUSLY DONT OPEN THOSE THINGS. They can kill you, watch out anons.

The ZAP I got was because I opened the commodore 2 monitor and tried to connect speaker wire to the internal speaker because I was a kid and too stupid to think of buying an rca splitter. I guess the internet didn't exist at the time and I was miles away from radio shack etc so its what a nigga had to do I guess. Go shocked like a mother fucker, my entire arm was numb and it was scary as shit.

WARNING: INCOMING CRT SHOCK

Do not open them anons, do not.

Crt royale kurozumi on a 144hz VA monitor for comparison.

Just got back from picking up my latest purchase. Pic related.

PVM is a 9044 and just thrown in as part of the deal as I have over 20 already. What I really wanted was the pattern generator which is quite powerful and covers every signal type from RF up to RGB.

brb calibrating all my monitors.

>>5120856
>>5120878

>setting up SNES and transcoder for some high quality vidya gaeming
>accidentally put the wrong adapter plug in the transcoder
>negative tip instead of positive tip
>smoke starts billowing out instantly
>open it up
>voltage regulator has scorch marks and is literally cracked down the middle

Press F to pay respects. Guess I'm going back to composhite while I figure out if replacing the 7805 will fix it or if the rest of the internals are fucked too.

>>5130162
cool

>>5130545
>Guess I'm going back to composhite while I figure out if replacing the 7805 will fix it or if the rest of the internals are fucked too.

7805 and pico fuse.

>>5131213
>pico fuse
I was reading about the possibility of a broken fuse when it comes to blown linear regulators in general, but I didn't see any fuses at all on the board...

>>5131246
also wew lads, the regulator got split right down the middle from the heat.

>>5131250
desolder the regulator, see if it failed short from input to ground, if so, you might be okay just replacing it. If it failed open, more likely other stuff died.

Sorry for the potentially retarded question but i heard that moving around your CRTs too much can damage it (the geometry, etc). Any truth to this?

>>5131482
Yeah, I would've done that already but I won't be able to access my tools and multimeter for a few days. I'm really hoping it didn't fail open and flood the circuit with a massive voltage. At least there's a power LED that doesn't even come on at all when I attempted plugging it in again (correctly), which would lead me to assume it failed on the input side and hopefully work again after replacement.

>>5131494
Theoretically if you knock it around a bunch, I suppose. And technically the earth's magnetic field can change your fine-tuned calibrations depending on the direction you're facing.

>>5131246
>>5131250
jeezus, don't regulators have built-it reverse protection ?

>>5131753
no, it's up to the circuit designer

>>5131753
Apparently not, I guess. I've never accidentally swapped the wrong polarity power supply, but it's also worth noting that this is one of those devices that doesn't have an on/off switch, so if it's plugged in, it's on. If it had a power switch, that would probably have prevented my folly by acting as a secondary check.

But hey, that's what happens when you buy chink clone hardware, I suppose.

>>5129950
I keep expecting the PVMeme prices to plateau, but they keep getting higher. Even the 8 or 9 inch ones are starting to get pricey. I remember just a couple of years ago you could nab one for under 50 bucks, shipped, easily. Now, nice ones are $100+.

>>5132178
Its no longer worth it. Best to either go ossc + CRT PC monitor with scanlines enabled or get a component converter on a cheap consumer trinitron

Worth it for $50? 27 inches, doesn't come with the remote. Made in 2003, has component & S-Video in the back. I'm honestly really on the fence about it. Doesn't have HDMI in the back, so I'm assuming it's not going to lag on me. What do you say /vr/, do I jump on it?

>>5132698
you can find a better deal within a week or two, if not already

>>5132698
It's worth it at free to $10.

>>5132698
HDMI doesn't automatically mean lag. Not having HDMI doesn't automatically mean lag free. Fuck there are a few professional sets that had half frame delay to 1.5 frame delay. Worry more about uniformity of picture and geometry. Things like brightness, noises, wavy/banding picture, etc.

Also $50 for a $2-5 thrift store tv is a bad deal. Even with component. But don't fall for the idiocy that svideo/composite is acceptable if you can snag a scart/ypbpr tv.

>>5129950
>>5132178
Everyone that has wanted them is slowly getting them, so the few overpriced ones will just sit until locally they are sold for a reasonable price. No one that wanted one is trying to sell theirs, or will anytime soon.

>>5132191
>OSSC
Fucking yuck. Tell that idiot he needs to offer an OSD and proper intelligent input sifting. What a shitty waste of money.

>>5132731
> so the few overpriced ones will just sit until locally they are sold for a reasonable price.
This is the bit of smug satisfaction I get when I see these CRT scalping faggots. Just knowing that they went around hauling heavy ass equipment storing them to the point where their basements or living rooms are probably full of the things, and then having to sit on them for years because no one is dumb enough to actually pay these retarded prices.

But then again, there probably will be some nigger-rich soiboi from reddit with too much disposable income for his own good who will gladly pay out the ass for these things, crossing the proverbial picket line and making things worse for everyone else.

>>5132698
>Worth it for $50?
$20 tops, and that depends also. If it is being sold as "WOW RETRO GAME TV" it isn't worth it. If you are in the USA, find a local second hand store, and you can find many similar units for $20.

>>5132770
>. If it is being sold as "WOW RETRO GAME TV" it isn't worth it.

This. Whenever I search for this stuff, I specifically filter out terms like "retro", "gaming", and "video games".

>All these 27 to 32 inch trinitrons on craigslist that nobody wants to help me get for free
I even offered multiple listings money to help me carry & delver one to my place but nothing, nobody wants to bother. I just need one Trinitron. ONE.

>>5133407
friends

>>5129950

>>5133407

>Go buy tv.
>Call a taxi to take it home.

Is this hard for you?

>>5123256
I have a black one too, but it didn't works as intended, Some keys work, some don't :(

>>5133458
>buying a PVM
everyone knows the more ghetto your TV is the is the cooler your retro setup is

>>5133407
Pay somebody to help you

>>5133407
SS+GOMAD

>>5122714
>>5122801
Is a free 14" worth a 4 hour round trip commute?

>>5133668
no

>>5133668
everybody says these are a top notch model, but I know someone who has one and it has shit black levels and bad flat-screen geometry

>>5133683
>>5133686
Any recommendations on ~14" consumer sets with component?

>>5133668
No. No! Fuck no. What madness. Is this the true level of CRT ludicrousness?

You can find a garbage TV like that in any thrift store. I've tried those Toshiba models. They all have a built in artificial edge enhancement that you can't turn off even in the Service mode. You can turn down the brightness all you want, and you will still have horrible ringing visuals.

Pick up a JVC, Sony, Panasonic or even a Philip Magnavox. Don't be stupid and drive 4 hours for a piece of shit like that.

The ONLY reason you should ever be driving 4 hours for an aging TV is in the scenario of some kind of pro monitor with very little hours.

>>5133793
Thanks for the response, just tryin to find something small with component. I read good things about the Toshiba AF series so that's why I asked. So far thrift stores have been a bust but I'll keep looking

>>5133804
It's all good Anon. I went down the Toshiba CRT route as yes, they have flat screens, component, and a good color. But that edge enhancement really bugged me. No matter how much you turn down the sharpness it's still there.

Check out the JVC's, I really like how they look and you can find most models with component connections.

>>5133816
Something like a JVC AV-20f475

>>5133694
if that's exactly what you want then that's probably the tv for you
otherwise get a consumer composite 14", or

Just pay the 200 bucks to have a 14" PVM shipped to you. That's really not expensive.
Do you realize how much people spend on other useless shit in this hobby? Whats more useful, a Pro grade CRT that you can use with every vr/ system you own, or a fucking Pikachu N64?

yellow

>>5133834
t. pvmeme scalper

>>5133793
This. I found the same model as well and it looked like shit. Ended up giving it away to a thrift shop. Shame because I loved the look and size. Increasingly hard to find 20" and smaller sets around buttfuck nowhere Ontario.

>>5133816
>>5133793
what is edge enhancement?

>>5134346
Basically like unsharp mask on Photoshop but generally overblown and horrible looking.

>>5134401
Captcha ate my pic

>>5134401
which one is unsharp mask?

>>5134421
The one which looks disgusting

There's a free 20 inch near my area but I can't decide if it's worth the space. Should I get a CRT if I only intent to play PS2 and OG Xbox games?

>>5134663
not retro

>>5134670
Funny on /v/ I was told to ask here. I guess PS2 and Xbox are on limbo right now.

>>5134678
A bit.

PS2 plays best with something that can handle 480i well, given how little of it's library can do 480p and how poorly the games that support it are implemented.

HUEG can go almost entirely 480p or better, so it can fare better on LCDs or if you feel like jumping through the hoops, a PC CRT.

>>5134703
do u ever play ps4 or xbone on your megaview? it can do 1080p/I and 720p right? What about hooking up a gpu that can do analog out like a 980ti and pushing it into the megaview? how many fps could you hit?

Thanks!

>>5134882
Don't have either console. Have done Wii U, Switch, and PS3 to it, all work fine.

Yes it can do 1080i, 720p, and 1080p. 1080i or 720p would be my suggestion of the three, 1080p is only decent for video and the like on it.

Yes you could hook up a PC with a chunky GPU to it; 720p @ 110hz would be doable; 800x600@120 would be the highest standard resolution with the highest refresh it could take, though if you go non-standard, something ~660p120 would be right at the edge of doable.

>>5134678
>PS2 and Xbox are on limbo right now.

Anon, you mean PS2 for playing PS1 and XBOX for emulating retro games.

Both look good on CRT. I'd argue that these look good on widescreen trinitrons.

Anyone know where to get arcade CRTs?

>>5135000
I do in los angeles. Where are you?

>>5135007
Finland

>>5135021
Buddy...

>>5135021
>>5135251
Is there someone from Finland around here or this country is doomed when it come to CRT?

>>5134902
quit trip fagging, faggot

>>5135296
There are companies that rent arcade cabinets but I dont think they sell monitors

>>5135315
Not the guy, but where you people find your crt then ? is there some flea market or something ?

>>5135321
I don't know. It's been long time since Ive seen any local flea market selling crt tvs. I'd like to have a one but not sure how to identify shitty 50hz ones from TVs with actual ntsc (not just pal60) support.

Just found a local, reasonably priced 19 inch pvm. wish me luck boys

>>5135302
how else are people supposed to know there's a reddit moderator piece of shit on our board

Samsung CXJ1952 19" CRT


Use to have one of these when I was a kid, too bad the VCR stopped working and it fell off a shelf and smashed. I miss this little tv

>>5135315
It's not a bad idea to contact the rental place. I'm sure they have a bunch of monitors of varying quality. They might be willing to sell you one, but it won't be cheap I imagine.

>>5122256
>>5122258
James Rolfe is that you?

>>5135347
do you really need NTSC, for like, a NA NES or a Famicom, or an NTSC N64.
Cause for everything else you can just use SCART RGB. 99% of SCART TVs will support a 60hz refresh (50hz sticker on the back refers to mains power supply).

>>5134902
so you have the 3730c, which can do higher res than the am4210 right? Also I remember you saying you would give your left nut for an NEC giant crt, but I cant remember why. Can you explain?

There were never any C models of the 42 inch Mitsubishi crts?

>>5135542
ITS HIM

>>5135665
There's a certain model (or two) of NEC's presentation monitors that have native support for Component and also edge out my Megaview slightly in regards of resolution they're capable of. The former would just mean not needing to go through a transcoder (or DAC) for certain things.

Don't think it's the "c" that makes any of them special. There was a late version of the 4201r with component support and potentially higher resolution support, but I don't want to imagine trying to move one. The 37'' is already unwieldy enough as it is.

>>5135728
also what is the max hz of the fw 900 at these resolutions:

800 x 600

720p

1080p

1440p

>>5135738
http://www.csgnetwork.com/videosignalcalc.html
Toss in resolutions and refresh rates.
If "Horizontal Scanning Frequency Required (With Estimated Retrace)" goes over 120 or so, then the FW can't manage it.

(2304)x1440p for example would max out at 80hz.

>>5128101
I believe so, don't got any systems with me at the moment to test it, but what I'm on now is the game mode(Sorry my stupid ass forgot to mention what kind of crt it is, its a small Sanyo crt, sticker on the back got ripped off but I think it says march 2003 or so) and the text at the top right that says Game has like....wavy, shaking lines. I tried googling this for the past week but all I find are more serious issues like the entire picture going off screen. Mine is still playable but its really starting to bother me, because it looked completely fine at the store. Mine did not come with a remote, any idea how I get into menu mode? Sorry, I'm a dumbfuck.

>>5124894
I tried degaussing it with a soldering gun, didn't fix it.

>>5120856
can you guys recommend me a good pvm to play snes on?

>>5135863
Please don't ask that

>>5135549
Yeah for N64 and FC stuff. And no, not all TVs support 60hz. Scart port doesn't indicate 60hz support since every tv has them.

>>5136021
then get a decently recent brand tv, from lilke mid/end '90s. Many support NTSC via composite.

>>5136021
having SCART isn't a guarantee of 60Hz support but it is pretty likely. Even dumb analogue only control sets will usually be capable of 60Hz even if it needs some fiddling with vertical hold and geometry.

>>5135818
What can I do with the megaview 3730c, 4210 and the vaunted NEC monitors? I just wanna play around and imagine

>>5127319
>Pros:
- Supports RTC meaning you don’t have to patch your Pokémon games.
- Can play NES remaster games and GBVideo

>Cons:
- Costs more than an EZFlash
- Bulky size makes playing a Micro with it awkward

>>5135863

To be completely honest snes looks better on a consumer set. I'm using an rgb modded "junior" model and a retrotek rgb to component converter.

Recently won $5000. What's the best CRT I can buy?

>>5136996
Kv-27fs120 from sony

>>5136997
KV-29LS30 is also excellent

>>5136996
Just get a free one I did. it's got s video

so, i recently saw a USB to RGB cable online, is this just a meme from the chinamen or will it actually allow me to use an old TV as a computer screen?

>>5136997
AM4201
PVM-4300

>>5136996
>What's the best CRT I can buy?
For computer, a GDM-FW900. If you find a new one, you will blow a good chunk of that $5k. Yes, there is still some new ones floating around. Shipping is a bitch and it would have to come freight due to size and weight.

>>5136996
BVM D32E1WU

>>5136996
Goddamn please don't pay the scalper prices on ebay just because you got a little nigger rich. You're just enabling them if you do that.

>>5135680
Well FUCK me with a steel wool brush it IS him.

>Text on PS2 games shakes
>but the OSD does not
>Change from off brand PS2 component cables to official S-Video cables
>Same thing
So...cap problem? I could probably take a video of it if I needed to.

These old TV's look terrible
I don't get this hobby
Maybe I have to be a nostalgic loser to understand it

>>5137462
cope

>>5137462
it's worth if you really like old games. or you could just emulate

>find out there's a way to adjust the focus/sharpness on my PVM with a "pot" on the inside of the casing
>my fucking face after moving the knobs one millimeter back & forth to get the focus just right on two pvms
Three hours later & I think I have them both the way I want them. Not sure if it was worth almost killing myself though.

>>5134663
I'll help out since most people on this site never like giving helpful advice >>5134670


PS2 looks really good and plays buttery smooth on a CRT. If you haven't played ps2 games recently you should prepare yourself for some super slowdown in frames or just overall ugliness which might make you not even want to play. Two games come to mind immediately. Vice City see's terrible frame drops when helicopters, tree movement, and cops get involved. MGS3 legitimately looks like dog shit and will hurt your eyes to play and try and figure out whats a piece of wood and whats a gator.

Xbox games, eh. I'm on the fence about. They look totally fine and I can't complain about them on a CRT. In general I love using my CRT for most 6th gen stuff. However, if you are going to be playing splitscreen on your xbox I would suggest an LCD or something. CRT's even a 36 inch just aren't great for splitscreen. Then again I just want as much screen real estate as I can get when playing on a CRT because they just aren't that big.

A little insight into what my CRT experience is; I've owned PVM's from 9 inches to 20, 20 inch BVM's, Sony and Non, 36 inch consumer tv's(currently use). Professional monitors look great and all but getting one over 20 inches is hard as fuck and for me 20 just didn't cut it since I like sitting further than 6 feet away from my tv sometimes. Getting a large PC CRT would be next on my list, if I ever get a 40 inch CRT my hunt for tv's will end.

>>5137620
>PS2 looks really good and plays buttery smooth on a CRT.
What's the best PS2 component & scart cable I can buy? I get this checkerboard pattern with my scart cable as well as audio buzzing, so my scart cable must be shit.

>>5137590
>omg I saw a neckboard once and the tube almost generated a black hole in my house and killed me
Stop being such pussies they aren't gonna hurt you unless you're an idiot

How do you guys feel about scanlines on a PS2? Are they 100% needed?

Xbox and Wii/Gamecube have tons of 480p support, so it makes sense using them through component on a HD CRT for great image quality. What about the PS2? The list of 480p games is so small.

>>5137657
>How do you guys feel about scanlines on a PS2?

wat?

>>5137697

Playing PS2 on a HD CRT, which obviously doesn't have scanlines. I'm aware older consoles won't look good on it, but how about 480i.

>>5137705
>480i
>scanlines

>>5137018
Post link.

>>5137709

Very helpful, nigger.

>>5137657
for native 480i a bit of overlap is nice, reduces the flicker especially when there's no vertical filtering like on most PS2 stuff.

>>5137720
https://www.miniinthebox.com/en/p/usb-2-0-male-to-3-rca-male-audio-video-cable-black-1m_p733672.html?prm=2.3.70.0

>>5137705
From my experience, it makes 480i and 480p look about as aliased looking as it would on a modern TV. When I hooked my 6th gen stuff into an SD CRT it looked way better despite only being 480i

>>5137753
I've tried Guitar Hero 2 on the HD CRT, 480i and 480p. 480p really made a difference there.

>>5137761
The problem is the HD CRT. 480p is going to be an improvement but it tends to look better on SD ones. I guess the ultimate solution would be a multi format PVM or something similar but I don't have one of those.

>>5137763
Yeah, it's what I thought. I do have a 29 SD Trinitron, I just wanted to use the HD CRT as much as possible, because its a great TV, has awesome sound and a shit ton of inputs. And I don't have the space to compare both TVs side by side right now, but I'm guessing 480i games on PS2 will look aliased as fuck.

>>5137643
I'm american so i use component cables i bought on ebay for like 15 bucks

>>5137746
That's not for actual USB, it's meant for devices that do analogue composite + audio out of a USB connector, some cheapo video player boxes.

>>5135296
if you're not talking about arcade CRTs, I have found all of mine (PC CRTs, consumer sets and BVMs) from tori.fi. You just have to actively check the website. There are meme trinitrons on sale there right now.

t. finnish

>>5120856
>developed tinnitus the other day
>the coil whine on my favorite CRT is slightly above the frequency of the tone in my ear, causing a maddening binaural beat effect
Is there any way to slightly lower the coil whine pitch on my CRT or is my life ruined forever?

>>5138069
>hasn't had tinnitus for the past decade
You are like little baby.

>>5138069
At what age will I be able to play on CRTs without hearing the 15khz whine?

>>5137656
You know the pots on a lot of PVMs are ON the flyback right? It's not always on the neckboard. They didn't start doing that on PVMs until like the 2000s.

>>5138545
So? Unless the flyback is cracked and arcing visibly there's next to no danger.

Fun fact: many older consumer sets came with holes drilled in the casing to adjust these very same pots from outside. Any less "dangerous"?

>>5138446
It will be the same age that you are when we no longer have to hear you whine about crt whine.

>>5138446
Your mid-40s, so get used to the whine or else get an upscaler and play in 480p+.

Sup niggers. I recently got my original childhood genesis working again after a long time by replacing all the caps and touching up all the solder joints. So now I have two consoles, so I decided to buy a second RGB SCART cable.

I already have a good-quality one from the UK site and it's worked fine. For the "backup cable" I just bought a cheap one off ebay. On my CRT I don't usually notice too much of a drop in quality comparing the "good cables" to the cheap ebay ones, but with this one the difference was very stark. Getting the signature jailbar patterns of Genesis composite, which leads me to believe the cables are sync-on-composite rather than cysnc (why people who wire cables like this when the genesis can output straight sync, I have no idea)

So anyway, I want to try fixing the issue by opening it up and switching the sync cable from composite to the cysync line on the 8-pin DIN connector. Only issue is I cannot for the life of me figure out how to open up the connector without just trying to slice it apart and hope for the best. Is there some sort of trick to these guys? It's not like the Nintendo AV connector where it's clearly two pieces that you can pry apart

>>5139012
you're out of luck most likely, those chinese cables they fill up with some sort of epoxy shit in the factory, all the pins are covered up

>>5139031
fucking lol, of course they would. Oh well, it was cheap anyhow. I guess I could always cut it off and replace it with a separate 8-pin din connector instead later on.

>>5139056
>and replace it with a separate 8-pin din connector instead later on
and here sega will get you, because the pins on a genesis aren't circular like a normal din, but in a U shape. you need a sega proprietary din connector

>>5139072
Nah, 262 degree 8 pin dins aren't proprietary. You can get them cheap for bulk. I'm aware of the difference, I almost bought one of the genesis scart cables on amazon until I realized it was a C-shaped plug.

>>5139012
>why people who wire cables like this when the genesis can output straight sync, I have no idea)
Because :
composite as sync is the scart standard (I actually had a Sony TV that had a blue tint if I used pure sync)
CSync pin can't be used as-is, it might work but also might not and can draw too much current

and yeah, that plug is molded and resin filled

How many lines have 14" crt models? I want to buy 14" sony trinitron That's the only size I can fit in my room. Pic related

>>5139148
I had a 14" PVM. I feel like springing for one of those would be a better choice than a consumer set of the same, since most of them don't have component and/or S-Video at that size.

>>5139148
Toshiba 14AF46, RF, 2 Composite, S-Video, Component, excellent quality and shadow mask, not trinitron so faggots pay you to take it.

>>5139148
>buy
every CRT i've gotten was free

>>5139319
k

>>5139194
Almost the same TV, 14AF45, can confirm this TV is the best

Finally got around to getting 240p test suite running.
Genesis model 1, SCART output converted to component, into a 27FS320.

Not happy with the geometry, but it's nice otherwise.

>>5139370
Word of advice: don't kill yourself over geometry. It's one of those things that's damn near impossible to get right and you'll never be happy with it. Get all the lines in the grid straight, and then you look at the linearity circles and they're out of whack. Tweak that until its fixed, and then you realize you have a warping/stretching effect on the grid scroll. It just never ends and the more you hyper-focus on it and tweak it, the more you'll keep noticing it and never be happy. Meanwhile none of us noticed any of this shit back in the day because we weren't paying attention.

>>5139380
Yeah your probably right. If all else fails, and I just can't prevent from it bothering me, I can just go grab a free round screen and probably get much better results.

Other than the geometry I am super happy with how this TV looks though.

>>5139402
>nd I just can't prevent from it bothering me, I can just go grab a free round screen and probably get much better results.
>
>Other than the geometry I am super happy with how this TV looks though.

That looks pretty dang good for a flat screen to be honest. They usually get a lot more wonky than that.

>>5139012
wiring SCART with composite as sync is best for compatibility, will still work with stuff that only does composite like most recording devices. 5V csync would also give more audio buzz on shitty unshielded cables.

Are the blacks really this washed out on PVMs or is it just this guy's camera?

>>5139743
Poor photography, and/or faulty/incorrectly setup.

>>5139194
>>5139345
I live in a slavic shithole so it's impossible to get one of those. I will look out more and probably get small trinitron.

Is there a visible difference between Super Trinitron and Black Trinitron?

>>5122959
I could have sworn those guys were always pink to begin with? Maybe my TV was fucked the whole time.

>>5137462
A lot of old games have visual effects that only work correctly on TVs like this. Not EVERY game, mind, but quite a few.

>>5139743
PVMs typically have much worse blacks than consumer sets because they're designed to be used in a light controlled environment.

>>5140034
Now show us a display which performs well under those kind of torturous conditions

>>5140038
Most modern LCDs will have much better black performance in a lit room than a CRT will.

>>5140041
I'd rather draw the curtains tbqh

>>5140041
Plenty of CRTs look fine in lit rooms

>>5140034
It only looks like that when you have the brightness dial turned all the way up.

>>5140081
You didn't mention the restrictions to making them look good:
1) avoid angling crt toward any window
2) avoid having reflective objects adjacent to crt, such as glass picture frames, polished metal, mirrors, etc
3) ensure light entering room is diffuse/ambient, use curtains and light globe shrouds

These problems also affect glossy LCD to a slightly lesser degree, but a bright mat textured LCD is mostly impervious to these issues.

>>5140081
They're perfectly usable and capable of achieving acceptable black levels in a moderately lit room, but LCDs will still out perform them.

>>5140093
No, that's just the colour of the screen. Look at every other picture of a CRT posted in this thread where the CRT is off and sitting in a lit room. The screen while off is obviously the darkest black a CRT can produce, and this is typically a light grey colour.

>>5140081
God damn that thing is fucking massive

>>5140081
Holy shit your setups got soul

i see a lot of [sony] trinitrons here, are they that good?
I have one of these fat ass tvs just taking dust and i plan to use it as a 3rd monitor when i build my rig, should i get an extra cheap/old video card with s-video output or one of these little box converter things?

>>5140821
>>5140859
Wow thanks guys. I think I need a better shelf

Hey boys, I'm fucking with my arcade tube right now. What does it mean if my tube isn't glowing when on?

I come to you in my hour of need /crt/. Been a long time lurker (since 2013?) and I've run into a wall with a few of my sets.
First, my GDM-FW900. It needs a calibration for sure, and I know how to carry this out. Problem is, there's a blue haze to the very far right of the screen and some slight convergence issues in the bottom corners. Anyone know how the calibration will affect this? It has a lot of hours, but works great other than these two issues.
My B&O ME6000 also has issues, namely it's out of focus around all the edges and there's bowing to the right. I assume there's a focus pot, but I haven't opened it up yet and I'm hesitant to considering how much of a beast it is. Anyone got any clues as to the specifics of this model, and how to access a service menu?
Finally, my Sony 28fx68u. It's a more recent widescreen 100hz set but it looks great for DVDs and widescreen 480i content. Problem is, the colours have been getting more out of wack over the years and the sharpness overall isn't great anymore. What's the best way to go about calibrating a set like this? I have access to the extensive service menu.

Cheers dudes.

>>5141230
firstly have you ran the image restore on the fw900?

>>5140034
What are curtains?

Also your brightness seems way too high.

>>5141512
>Also your brightness seems way too high.
That's the colour of the screen. It has nothing to do with the brightness settings. If you want to get good backs out of a CRT then really you have to treat it as you would a projector.

>>5141230
Got pics?

>>5141512
Brightness is fine there, it's just the ambient light.

>>5141013
trinnytrons are generally pretty nice memes, there are nice sets from other manufacturers with other mask types too.
Card with s-video (or better, component) out is alright for video use, but not great for retro/emulation as it'll usually be 480i/576i scaled output only, no 240p. Same thing with external VGA to s-video/composite converter boxes, they're not great, but they'll do okay for watching video.

>>5141190
No heater voltage. The glow can sometimes be hard to see in normal room lighting, it's not super bright.

>>5141017

Whats the name of this model? How many inches?

>>5141797
Not him but it looks like a KV-32XBR75

>>5141501
Yeah quite a few times over the years and recently. I read somewhere that it gradually bumps up the gamma, and that makes sense because the blacks aren't what they should be now.

>>5141787
I'll try to get pics this evening.

>>5141838
I asked in a separate thread, 32XBR70.

>>5141017
I'd personally recommend a Sanus audio rack. They're a bit pricey, but very sturdily built, and they make a black set that would go nicely with your XBR.

>>5142665
Wow, these look great, thanks. Definitely something to save up for!

>>5142064
Next time you run it, try bumping the brightness way up to around 50 beforehand, and it might be superstition, but I'm fairly certain that gives you a wider lower range for brightness

>>5141787
Here's a pic of the B&O in action. I've just noticed that the bowing isn't present when running s-video, and it just seems to be there with RGB SCART. The screen is still out of focus a little, in fact that's even noticeable on static with the TV tuner channels. Looks like I need some way to sort the bowing with RGB SCART and to adjust the focus of all the edges. The set truly looks amazing otherwise- absolute beast and the colours are natural and vibrant.

Yo should I buy a crt rejuvenator?

What sort of speakers should I get to use with my new BVM?
Only thing I know I need is something with decent magnetic isolation so it doesn't fuck with the CRT.

>>5143981
An amplifier/reciever and passive speakers

>>5143986
Thanks. I did some googling:
And is this going to cost me thousands of dollars? Because all I'm seeing is amps and speakers that cost thousands of dollars, and cheap ~$50 PC setups, with little in between.

>>5143995
Audio is something you could spend an infinite amount of money on if you wanted to. I recommend checking your local Craigslist for audio equipment because of so many boomers who continuously buy new audio shit even though it's not getting any better.
Here's an example, the first result when I searched for "reciever"
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/ele/d/sony-audio-reciever/6731186268.html

Speakers it's hard to say, but really any set of bookshelf speakers will make you happy. In person you can tell a quality speaker by the weight of it.

>>5133590
This, man. unless you're a woman or undeveloped, i full grown man should be able to lift 100lbs. I have medium trinitrons and they all have handles near the top too. It's not like you're going to be picking up a 250lb slippery Mitsubishi with a thin tube. shit, if if you're going to own something that big just invest in a dolly/hand truck. I bought one the day i got my neo geo cab and use it all the time. Then you're just looking at sliding the thing in and out of a car. make sure you put a towel between the screen and the dolly though. EZPZ.

>>5143995
>>5144024
I'd recommend checking out goodwill and other thrift/donation stores. You'll often find audio equipment like receivers for dirt cheap. Craiglist isn't as good because there are plenty of reseller jews trying to peddle their old shit for too much money

>>5144237
True, Goodwill usually has loads of audio equipment. If you were near me I'd give you one for free; working in a fancy assisted living residence I've gotten about 8 high quality recievers for free from when the old geezers kick the bucket. Kind of a sad way to feed into my collecting habit but whatever, they like to give stuff away.

Where can I get a SCART-YPbPr transcoder and how much do they usually cost?

hey guys, this is not strictly /vr/ but it is /vr/ related, i just picked up a panasonic viera smart tv, this now going to be my primary /vr/ emulating screen and my for use with my consoles too, (the console finds and sets itself to the tv so this should be an issue) but do any of you have 1, what is the optimun display setting on 1 of these things? i dont have a manual with this desu... i checked /vg/ for a general and couldnt find 1 and fuck /v/ desu

thanks

>>5144465
The scope of your question is too big to answer. Just stick to a CRT if you want to play old games.

Anyone who uses an "HD" CRT TV is a goddamn cuck. They're the worst of both worlds: the digital scaling, fixed resolution and input lag of an LCD, along with the geometry, convergence and focus issues of a CRT.

i have given up on ever obtaining a pvm or bvm because some local fuckface outbids me at every auction and routinely goes past $300 and it's that same fucker that lives in god damn irvine i hope he gets a cyst in his ass and bleeds out his anus FUCK

>>5144549
>irvine
California?

>>5144549
Honestly, I got one and while it's nice, I can't really justify it to most people. While it's nice to play with original hardware with crisp pixel clarity, the recent advent of FPGA emulation and HDMI mods is ultimately the logical conclusion for retro games once CRT stocks become too depleted and/or expensive. The only thing that people will miss out on are scanlines and black levels, the latter of which is a non-issue with most modern displays.

>>5144549

>>5144503
I wouldn't turn down a free one in good shape but yeah they were a mistake. It's a shame so many of them seem to have big geomatry issues.

>>5144498
i had a 32" sharp CRT for a long long time, i refused to upgrade, i thought it was dying on me a couple of times, the screen was going green and purple in the corners and then it would rectify itself... has great sound aswell, but it was massive and weighed a ton... sadly this died on me about 2 ears ago after years and years of faithful service and i got a flatscreen... i dont know how you feel about emulation but real hardware is hard for me to acrue right now and emulation has been my thing for a few years now.. i dont bother with all the visual gimmicks but playing on the laptop screen is a bit meh, especially for 2 player games... its just trying to figure out this TV ive just got, it was a steal at 50 bucks, i dont even have it hooked up to the net desu.. just wanted the optimum picture for playing some /vr/ thought someone on 1 of the vidya board could help

cheers

>>5144561
yes, but I found a KV-36FS10 for cheap in my local area, would that be a good substitute for a PVM / BVM? it supports component, s-cable, composite

Not exactly /vr/ related, but can anybody tell me what are the effects of old caps on convergence/geometry and things like that? I have some crt monitors that suffer from things like poor focus in parts of the screen and loss of convergence and screen position after powering on/off. Not sure whether its just tube age, bad cables, or chink caps.

someone put a universum crt out not far from me. I could go and just carry it home. anyone know if these are any good? also it rainedtoday and it must have taken a bit of a hit. ther top of it was wet the first time I saw it, but it's dry now. any chance it's still working?

>>5144702
sounds like a cap issue when it gets better after a while (the caps get warm)

>>5144596
that's a good TV if you and your three friends and weightlifters

>>5144596
you could actually play 4 player splitscreen without anyone bitching

>>5144596
On paper it looks a bit like a holy grail. Huge, high TVL 4:3 trinitron with component input. Bet the sound is great too.

Is there some trick to getting RGB sync-on-green to work? I have a PS2 hooked up to a PVM via component, and when I switch the PS2 to output RGB I get a scrambled picture, and none of the PVM menu options fix it (RGB int sync, RGB ext sync, etc)

I'm fine playing in component but I just wanted to see how much of a difference component vs RGB makes. And I'm also just curious about why this doesn't work and if I'm forgetting something.

>>5144946
PS2 will only to SoG when in RGB mode AND in 480p+. 240p and 480i are stuck with RGBS

>>5144970
Well that's fucking retarded. Oh well, at least I know it's not a problem with my monitor.

>>5144970
plz answer
>>5135536

Is there any kind of guide to pc crts? Which are the best ones? I'll only be using it for windows 98 and everything before if that helps and also possibly some 480p console games

>>5144946
https://youtu.be/brMW6KFue-I?t=1601

>>5144549
I've said this before and I'll say it again: PVMs are no longer worth it. Get a nice late 90s/early 00s Trinitron with component inputs and a transcoder. Is it as crisp as a PVM? No, but the difference between that and a PVM is marginal. And you get a larger screen because you won't be getting a PVM with a large screen unless you want to shell out like 1.5 grand.

I say all this as someone with both a PVM and a 32" trinitron. I do prefer the PVM for single player gaming, but I also only paid a very small amount.

>>5144946
Run a sync line from pic related

I've got this, a sega Genesis, and both rf and composite cables for said Genesis. Where do I start?

>>5145512
Plug in the composite cables, have fun, and never come back here again. You'll contract actual autism and never enjoy retro games again. Go. Now.

>>5145527
>implying I don't have autism
But nevertheless I'll heed your advice

>>5145531
>But nevertheless I'll heed your advice
He already knows how to "green text". Its too late. He will be back...which is good.

>>5145134
>Is there any kind of guide to pc crts? Which are the best ones?
Sony Trinitron tubes are the best, though Mitsubishi made a great tube toward the end of the CRT era. Sony tubes are hidden in many branded units...Sometimes a dell, HP or even IBM. Most will say trinitron somewhere on the bezel. Some are flat glass, some are curved. Find one that has good quality image, and you will have a good time.

>>5145538
>He will be back
Fuck he's right I've been lurking for 4 minutes

>>5138446
>At what age will I be able to play on CRTs without hearing the 15khz whine?
I am in my late 30s, and still hear it. I wear ear plugs at work, so I think this is a sign that I am treating my head pretty good.

Also, I updated my setup over the last 48 hours. I did some work to my (Not retro) OG Xbox with a clock capacitor removal and got myself a new storage system for all the controllers and other game paraphernalia. Everything fit except the PSX. I am almost sure that IF I get a PSOne, I will be able to put it aside the N64 and then have all my systems under the TV, but I hate the PSOne. I may try to find one with a stealth mod chip, but I am good for a bit. I finally got all the junk off the top of the TV, and am thrilled with how clean it is now. Having places to keep wires and junk organized is exactly what I needed.

>>5145489
What is this thing called? I think i need one of these to use a guncon with a psx going through an s-video cable.