/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

-100 minutes of /vr/ underway
-Deadline presumably at the end of the month(?)

=== NEWS ===

[10-27] DOOM RPG Remake Project revealed
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/102919-drrp-doom-rpg-remake-project/

[10-25] Hexen ZDoom community project announced
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=62375

[10-25] Redneck GDX supports Rides Again

[10-25] Redneck Rampage to get another reverse-engineering project, but using EDuke32
https://forums.duke4.net/topic/10241-rednukem-redneck-rampage-port/

[10-20] Deepdream Doom v1.1 and Deepdream Chex v1.0 released
https://www.mediafire.com/?z7wrmazotn6ws

[10-20] 'Beta 64' megawad for Doom 64 EX posted on Doomworld
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/102849-beta-64-a-29-level-megawad-for-doom64-ex/?tab=comments#comment-1928807

[10-18] DM4Jam DLC Update released, three extra maps
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61644

[10-10] DavidN is making BD less of a clusterfuck
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=62203

[10-09] SM188 released, made with and using features from the recent progs_dump devkit
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61639

[10-06] XUMP - Hexen Upstart Mapping Project released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101939-hexen-upstart-mapping-project-released/

[10-05] Doom 64 EX community project announced
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/102637-doom-64-ex-community-project-announced/

[10-02] Quake Champions audio ripped and shared, although from earlier version
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w87eb6j6oo3vct4/qc_snd_mus.zip?dl=1

[10-01] Deepdream Doom v1 released, v1.01 may be coming soon
https://www.mediafire.com/?z7wrmazotn6ws

[09-29] Quake C devkit "progs_dump" released, plus maps demonstrating its use
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61633

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*crack* *sip*

Ah, now THOSE were the days of modding.

Early shot of the 3DR Quake engine game.

>>5131856
Concept art.

>>5131856
Those are Revenants holding their rocket launchers.

>>>/wsg/2440668

started work on the weapon upgrades, still not sure if I should keep the defense lowering mark shot though.

Is infinite height the worst Doom "feature"?

>>5131861
In-game footage of the model and particle effects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UnNKzsAvHk

>>5131869
More test footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8C9IlHWBfQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoGtA57ZJaU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyV14h0oCX8

>>5131875

>>5131856
So it's being made by KillPixel and not in-house?

>>5131879
Didn't Quake deliberately abstained from using sprite-based decorations because they looked realy weird on the engine?

>>5131879
Weapon test footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i1DpmvZ1pY

>>5131867
That flickering crosshair is a neat touch.

>>5131894
>>5131879
>>5131875
>>5131869
Why not condense this into a single post?

>>5131879
Weapon test footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i1DpmvZ1pY

>>5131897
It's amazing how flicking between a blank frame for a tic and the normal frame for a tic back forth really fast makes it just like how they faked transparency on the NES.

>>5131898
Sorry, was finding stuff and posting on the go. Will do a combined infodump next thread.

>>5131901
Really liking that shotgun.

>>5131875
>>5131879
>only reaching 900+ FPS

unoptimized as FUCK there's no hope

>>5131886
My understanding was KillPixel was working on it with a team for some years, with the goal of producing a demo for Q2 2018. That's around the same time when several Quake mappers were approached and/or hired by 3D Realms to work on the Quake engine game. They're almost all working remotely but under the 3DR brand.

>>5131901
"Scavenger" enemy design.

>>5131869
>>5131875
Not a fan of the enemies but REALLY digging the lighting, particles, and animated decal(s). Looks good anon.

>>5131921
>>5131901
>>5131879
it's on Quake engine,but the enemies are sprites?
WTF?

>>5131932
Probably just placeholders. Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

>>5131932
>can't tell sprites and 3d models apart

>>5131934
Definitely placeholders, seeing as the enemies seen in >>5131901 's picture are clearly models.

>>5131856
There seems to be some clearly useless, gameplay-wise, space. Less than I thought there would be, but it's still there.

Also, who the fuck places bricks vertically - ESPECIALLY in the arches?

>>5131932
>quake engine with sprite enemies
Imagine that.

>>5131984
Pity that game died.

>people speculating on/criticizing not even pre-pre-pre alpha pics.

>>5131986
It is unfortunate.

>>5131989
When you do a piece of placeholder content, that is clearly there to be later disposed of, you can still throw together something at least of some interest to you, something that has some sort of idea to it, if for no other reason, than to train yourself a bit, to use the opportunity to further hone your skills or your vision, or simply to experiment a bit, to save you some time on further experimenting along the road.

Being all like "Oh I'll just do completely whatever, but then, when The Time Comes and Everything Is Ready, I'm gonna turn on my Le Artist mode and create Le Masterpiece from Le Inspiration that would be nothing alike those crude testing whatevers", in my opinion, is not good position to be it. Because it just might so happen, that When The Time Comes, you will be just like Romero, when asked what his Le Awesumsauce RPG Game About Magic Hammer would be all about. No specifics. Improvising second-grade filler content to fill out the gaps. You don't MAGICALLY become ready for making release-grade content for your game. And it is 90% not a matter of a flash of inspiration. You get to the point of being capable to produce release-grade content through copious research, inventing and collecting know-hows. If you rather waste your time, instead of preparing yourself, then your actual released content will probably be generally noticeably worse than it should've been based on how you initially imagined it.

tl;dr: test content IS much more representative of the released content, than it might initially seem

>>5132014
Woah no shit Sherlock. But it's still pretty useless to analyze that shit since most if not all of it will end up being replaced anyway.

>>5131981
>judging gameplay from what is essentially a proof of concept image made to just look cool

>>5131901
>alt-fire
I hope this is not just a placeholder mechanic

>>5131820
Only time I've ever laughed at this shitty meme

>>5131820
Boom ironically wasn't that popular when it was released, it got much more liked in the 2000's when people really started appreciating vanilla (and "vanilla+") mapping again.

>>5131989
>>5132069
t. damage control

>>5131919
I say I do like the gothic aesthetics they're going for, I hope they'll go for something very Quake like.

>>5132134
What damage is there to control? It's painfully obvious to everyone that the footage posted here is prototype-tier. The game probably doesn't even look like this anymore for all we know. It might not even be this project.

>>5131798
>Deadline presumably at the end of the month
Good question. Let's say Nov 15th.
So get mapping. Only 100 minutes, I'm pretty sure you can spare it.

Quake 1 > Quake 3 > Turok 1 > Doom 1 > Heretic > Quake 2 > Duke Nukem > Doom 2

Still getting around Hexen 1, Hexen 2, Turok 2, Unreal Gold, Thief, and Strife.

>>5132180
Opinions. In regard of oranges and tangerines. Cool.

>>5132180
>Always piss on Duke!

>>5132237
Sorry, really wasn't blown away by Duke Nukem.

>>5132180
Thief>Unreal>SS2>Doom 2>Quake>Doom 1>UT99>Heretic=Duke=Hexen>Quake 3>Quake 2>Bananas>Oranges>Apples

Redneck Rampage is in there somewhere... Turok and GoldenEye.
This is a stupid activity. Not even sure I agree with my own list.

>>5132241
blo it ouch ur ass

>>5132256
>>5132180
Dunno how you could ever compare Thief to all the others. It's completely different.

i've got two dicks that should be enough for all of ya

>>5132241
Try Duke Caribbean.

>>5132180
>>5132256
One Whole Unit Blood > UT99 > Quake 3 > DOOM 2 > Quake = Duke Nukem 3D + Expansions > DOOM > Quake 2 >>>>> Heretic > Hexen > Unreal

>>5132180
>>5132321
>Quake 3
It's the ultimate degeneracy of arena shooters, the epitome of simplistic boring weapons.

>dude rocket launcher and railgun lmao

>>5132332
>I love to argue for the sake of it

Diarrhea kills, lol. Collateral Damage - my WIP DooM mod, that brings new, lethal and fun weapons.
https://youtu.be/qr60DT3TdWc

>>5132339
I disagree with him but you both had Quake 3 highly placed, pulling you up on what you posted is kind of the point of 4chan.

>>5132332
define weapons that are interesting to use

>>5132341
that looks like a shit ton of fun

>>5132342
I didn't post anything, just observing.

>>5132332
Pretty lame excuse to whip out your word-of-the-day calender to be honest.

It's fun to play and control and it's got a very strong following. Not sure what retorts you can pull out your ass besides "weapns bore me ;(" and "no u", but if you've got a couple brain cells left I'd love to hear a proper argument.

>>5132382
Judging from his choice of words, he's not from here.

>>5132256
>Heretic=Duke=Hexen
HAHA HA HAHAHA HAHA
Who's this troll?

Post a map that has legitimately frustrated you to no end unexpectedly.

>>5132425
Every map by the Cashalis

>>5132425
Canal Roads from Hellbound just for how insanely boring it is to play. And it never gets better.

Is this kid dressed as fireblu?

>>5132463
>not a single white child at the white house

JUST

>>5132427
Hot take: Are the Casali brothers overrated?

>>5132474
all i know is that they're the songs of the love is cartoonist and one of them has a controversial birth story

>>5132438
Hellbound is just awful all the way through, the only way to make it remotely playable without dying from boredom is using some content-stuffed gameplay mod.

>>5132463
I really want somebody to make a duke mod with trump

Any good megawads this year?

>>5132474
They are just shit. Ugly, empty rectangular levels with terrible mean-spirited gameplay. Those hackmaps literally stopped me playing Doom for decades.

Caribbean for example a nice demonstration. Ugly, disgusting design, confusing maze, and a shit end to open two doors just for the lulz.

They weren't even testing their maps, Pharaoh has multiplayer yellow key only.

what about half life ,sin , rainbow six , delta force , mysteries of the sith and tresspasser?

shogo,turok 2 , blood 2 and tribes?

>>5132505
I love Plutonia waaay more than the original Doom 1 and 2. It's also probably why in pre-skulltag days there were always plutonia servers packed in zdaemon for ages. The levels are just so much more complex, pretty and challenging too so it isn't a cakewalk like the original games.

>>5132474
>overrated
>final doom gets flak all the time and comparisons to it are usually derogatory, to the point that someone made a mod that literally makes any level more plutonia-like
???

>>5132072
What is "placeholder"?

>>5132474
nah, they were the first truly good doom mappers

what about quake 2 the reckoning?

Where are some places where I can appraise SArais and get banned for giving them the praise they deserve? LOTX looks and plays amazing and I'm glad he's refusing to conform to the community's norms.

>>5131797
Anyone here know of any complete Doom1, Doom 2 or Strife WADs based on Transformers or Terminator?

I thought the D64 arachno only shoots 5 times at once, because it feels like he's rather shooting 7 times.

please tell me which fps released in 1998 was the best one

>>5132668
Shogo

In Doom 64, if you get close enough to a Mancubus, you may have a chance to see his nipples.

Doom > Quake > Blood=Douk > Heretic > Quake 2 > Shadow Warrior > Hexen > Doom 2 > Quake 3

the best 1998 fps is tresspasser. change my mind.

>>5131875
>>5131869
This looks quite nice. I didn't even know one could play Darkplaces without it looking like >>5123156

>>5132739
nope

>>5132014
you use commas like women use periods

>>5132761
Devs can modify the code and vanilla Quake was made for original engine, not some alternative engine wich adds tech that supplants old features.

NO TRIBES WAS THE BEST 1998 FPS.

Unreal a shit

>>5132784
u a shit

>>5132784
The SP is pretty damn mediocre

Definitely the best 1998 fps was rainbow six

Recommend me some weapon WADs anons
I've played Trailblazer, HND, Kriegsland, NAZIS!!, Project Brutality, ATM as well as ma_val and tailor girl, but I'm looking more for something like ATM or Trailblazer, I just want to shoot demons with guns

Mods, I apologize.

>>5132792
you are mediocre

>>5132014
what the fuck even is this post?

>>5132817
not aa mediocre as ur mom lel

okay now this is Epic

All I wanted to do was chill in my igloo

>>5132862
i don't recall this in either epic 1 or 2

>>5132870
its epic 1 map03

Blood = Master Levels for Doom II >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else

>>5132767
Please stop posting this lame picture in every doom thread.

>>5132881
>Master Levels
Okay, now you're just taking the piss.

What are some good spooky wads?

Post yfw Infernew is going to absolute shit on DW

>>5132891
Unloved (plus the Unloved 2 beta)
Hellground
Lilith
Shadows Of The Nightmare Realm
Innocence X
Nihilty
Mall of Mayhem

>>5132895
I've nothing to post because people who try to import drama are fucking subhumans who need to be liquidated.

>>5132180
pretty good list desu

>>5132908

>>5132912
>i-i-it's okay because 4chan!

No. Fuck off and actually die.

we need to vote the best 1998 fps.

>>5132914
How about you eat my shit stained ass and enjoy the Hep C?

>>5132895
Anybody on the outside could tell how incredibly rude & cold the project leader was from the start. Good to see people are reacting publicly now.

>>5132918

Gonna buy Devil Daggers, System Shock 1, Kingpin, and Shadow Warrior Redux on Steam this sale.

Did I miss anything, or did I pick shitty games?

Dramafags get the fuck out of my Doom thread

I put too much effort into goat AI

>>5132934
Did you switch places with Toby?

>>5132495
Nope. Come back next year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-krdAC6ceds

>>5132341
beautiful
keep going

>>5132891
City of the Damned : Apocalypse
Short but effective

>>5132812
LegenDoom. Pair it with Colorful Hell and Champions if you like getting your dick kicked repeatedly. The Trooper is pretty good as well.

>>5132934
can it climb ladders?

>>5133000
No but I made them stop endlessly ramming into doorframes while trying to charge at the player because they weren't aware of their thickness.

>>5132934
when you say goat, do you mean a literal goat for a meme mod or do you mean goat as in improving baron AI

>>5133012
partially the latter

holy FUCK. i didnt know quake could get this scary

>>5132158
Oh yeah I forgot, quick little patch to my map.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/l66rlqyrnwroxyk/PostMemoriam.wad?dl=0

>>5133025
quick, find a power pentagram

>>5132529
No, they weren't. They just deteriorated Doom's mapping standards with their retarded torturing style for the worse.

>>5132891
Soundless Mound

>>5133057
Something that has challenge is torturing? Holy shit dude.

>>5133025
>runes in Honey

>>5132474
No.

>>5132505
All of Plutonia's maps were tested.
For TNT, I think they only made a few maps, and they were edited by others after the fact.

>>5132524
>flak
>comparisons to it are usually derogatory
By scrubs.

>>5133057

>>5132014
If it isn't Thesaurus McGee.

>>5132845
Complete anal blast.

I¡ve been out of touch with Half-Life and GoldSrc since ages. How's the modding scene going on in that engine? Is it at least as active as the Quake one? Can you recommend me a good place to get HL mods or recommend me some?

>>5133083
Challenge =! Torture

Ugly pointless mazes and button combinations, along with trial and error type monster spawn = bad design

And boy, Plutonia's maps look disgusting.

>>5133120
I get the impression it slowed down a lot in the 2010's.

>>5133123
>trial and error
lolno

>>5133120
I don’t see much modding for HL these days

>>5133123
1. Git Gud
2. Who the fuck gets lost in plutonia? Maybe odyssey of noise I guess

>>5133147
>implying that scrublord could make it all the way to Odyssey Of Noises
lmao

>>5131869
>January 2017
Give me something fresh

>>5133147
You could get lost in Hunted on your first time through

>>5133124
>>5133136
Damn, that's a real shame.

>>5133162
Yeah, it was a real golden time for modding.

>>5133159
>the one literal maze level out of an entire megawad

sheer torture, i tell ye

>>5133162
>>5133173
It's a closed source game so not a big loss.

https://youtu.be/T7cgd8WOkDE

>>5133205
Who gives a shit? People made magical fucking things with GoldSource, Counter-Strike, Firearms, Sven-Coop, The Specialists, etc.

The late 90's and the 2000's was a truly excellent time for 3D game mods. If you weren't there, you wouldn't get it.

>>5132812
I recommend Highway to Hell. I might recommend others but I'm not sure what ATM is.

>>5132812
I tried High Noon Drifter and its really great and well made. Western style gunslinger mod with bunch of cool weapons and a dedicated melee whip button. Might want to disable some of the broken stuff like rolling which can break some wads.

>>5133225
Just noticed HND in your list, I man idiot.

This is the stuff I hate about slaughter maps. When there's just so much shit in every possible direction and so little room to move that you really can't hardly react in any way besides holding down M1 and praying for the best. In this screen I'm backed up against a wall, the dropoff leads to damaging liquid, and around the corner is another horde of enemies.

I'm trying to extract Guncaster's pk3 but I keep getting an error saying the file is broken
I've tried re-downloading the zip but I keep betting the error
wut do?

>>5133265
>waahhhhh I put myself in a precarious situation
your fault

What are some WADs that crap make GZDoom crap itself but that run perfectly on PRBoom+ ?

I wanna push them to the limit

>>5133360
*that make GZDoom crap itself

>>5133360
Nuts
Planisphere 2

Duke > Caleb > Doomguy > Lo Wang > Quakeguy > Carvus > BJ Blazkowicz

can you just stop with the
X > Y
posts already

>>5133382
http://en.inkei.net/Your_shitty_opinion!My_superior_opinion

>>5132485
It's not a Duke mod per se, but there is this:
https://mega.nz/#!C8twCZyb!yfDzaYu9NafZVCl982Y-D66k-873MmIfrt0sU0HnerQ

>>5131798
Thanks to SJWs, the Other gender is being renamed to Robotic
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=62399
https://github.com/coelckers/gzdoom/commit/c808af94ca2b5508d99bd274e3c61ef8a86d7885
I wish I was joking
How long till someone makes a thread in bugs, saying "Robotic" isn't a gender

>>5133435
And here I thought /vr/ wouldn't be infested with /pol/tards.

>>5133435
Fucking why? Since when in the fuck is "robotic" a gender? Who the fuck identifies as "robotic"?

>>5133445
/r9k/?

>>5133445
But don't robots run purely on binary?

>>5133445
All of the Strogg i guess?

>>5133446

>>5133435
>Graf is the only one being sensible

>>5133454
for once.
Leave it to Rachael to do the pandering

>>5133435
Fuck SJWs. They need to put down and stuffed into oven.

>>5133443
Just report and filter.

>>5133465
Global rule 2.

>>5133443
t. SJW apologist

>>5133473
Good job proving >>5133443 right.

>>5133443
>>5133469
>ABLOOABLOO HE MENTIONED ANYTHING TO DO WITH GENDER
>what a fucking /pol/tard!!!!!

>>5133471
>farts

>>5133473
>>5133476
>>5133478

>o-o-ook! booga booga ook!

Spyro in half-life tech demo out now. https://www.moddb.com/mods/year-of-the-dragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W53L8JI2-4Q

>>5133475
>farts

>>5133476
>whining abut sjws
>bringing politics into this thread
Yup, that's a /pol/tard.

>>5133483
>extra chromosomes

Don't put that in the next thread's OP, for the love of fuck.

It'll probably get deleted anyway once the
mods wake up

>>5133479
This one is indecipherable for me. You tried, though.
>>5133485
No. You aren't a /pol/tard whatsoever if you ask the genuine question: Is "robotic" a gender?

>>5133494
>ook booga booga bongo ook!!

Sorry, what was that? I don't speak vodkanigger.

>>5133495
Now I can confidently say you aren't even giving it your best.

>>5133480
for what purpose

>>5133494
>if you ask the genuine question
Nice try dodging the fact that the post whined about sjws and brought politics into thread in the process, /pol/tard.

>>5133501
Just for the hell of it.

>>5133503
STOP
GIVING
THE
SUBHUMAN
ATTENTION

>>5133503
TIL: Using the term "SJW" and discussing politics automatically means you are a /pol/tard.

>>5133507
>doing exactly what /pol/ is known for like bringing politics into a videogame thread makes you a /pol/tard
whodda thunk?

>>5133435
>the No Chicken momentarily snaps out of insanity to be redpilled
>Rachel doing what she does best, sucking up to the mentally ill

>>5133513
> sucking up to the mentally ill

strange, didn't take her to be a conservative

>mentions a dumb change being brought out in upcoming GZDoom versions
>Instantly a /pol/tard
Bruh, I don't even touch /pol/

>>5133516
No need to lie about your intentions, subhuman.

I guess the mods are just gonna let this happen.

Not surprising, they do love to side with cancer at times. Just check /vg/ at any given moment.

seriously which one was the BEST 1998 FPS?

>>5133521
Half Life, without a doubt

>>5133516
How come you keep forgetting to mention the fact that you whined about sjws and brought politics into the thread? How come you keep trying to paint yourself more innocent than you actually are? Almost like you know you're full of shit?

>>5133512
This one's not worth the time.

>>5133521
the varginha incident

>>5133528
>still responds anyway

Full on Chinese League player level chimpout.

>>5133525
I'm not whining
I'm complaining

>>5133534

>>5133525
Yes, it's clearly the messanger's fault when sjws forcefeed THEIR politics into the main game discussed here and he brings it up.

It's almost like you've got some kind of an agenda which makes you want to bury and shout down the matter as quickly as possible.

>>5133521
Unreal

>>5133504
Crazy as it sounds, but I think the real reason for the mod's development is to see if goldsource can support proper thirdperson gameplay. Based on valve's early cancelled title Prospero.

>>5133539
>It's almost like you've got some kind of an agenda

The fucking irony.

>>5133525
Why not yell at Just Chipper and Arctangent for trying to bring their toxic leftist extremism into the game

>>5133539
>sjws identify as robotic
>"forcing" even though nobody here cared until you brought it up into this innocent videogame thread
>whines about sjws
>brings politics into the thread
Go away /pol/tard, you're not fooling anyone, give up already.

>>5133546
Right, it's okay when /po/ does it. I forgot.

>>5133435
If anything isnt this anti-SJW? Since it's replacing the option to choose a broadly non-binary gender with the option to be a robot?

>>5133546
Why not fuck off and stop bringing politics into this thread, /pol/?

>>5133435
>Other renamed to Robotic
It's actually rather fitting for a leftist npc

>>5133547
All of them need to be fucking killed, not just for 4chan's safety but the world's safety. Nature is actually threatened by /pol/tards.


>>5133556
KILL YOURSELF
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>>5133539
>forcefeed THEIR politics
They haven't forced anything, robot is not a gender so they end up getting the short stick here, dumbass.
>he brings it up
Two wrongs don't make a right.

>>5133464
cute

NUKE FOOKEM

Hey, that's not even the bare minimum. You forgot the shit that started it all.

Is there a way to force the player to enter pain states even while wearing 100% damage reduction armor?

TIME TO VOTE
https://strawpoll.com/wyb2ee3z

>>5133574
Who the fuck chose Blood II: The Chosen

>>5133582
me

>>5133574
>Back Track
So that's what that game was called, I had the demo and I was never able to remember the name of it again.

>>5133435
As a person whose prefered pronouns are it/its/itself, this bothers me a little.
Cyborg did sound cooler, though. I think it would have been better if cyborg was used for "it" and other for "they".

>>5133593

who voted for south park?

>>5133602
myself

>>5133605
why?

>>5133607
to amuse, of course

What's your favorite scary/creepy/horror themed Doom mod?

>>one vote for Extreme Paintbrawl
kek

Jose Cacodemon

>>5133630
Alberto Impbosa

>>5133626
dead.air

>>5133626
What's YOUR favorite, anon?

>>5133652
Happy Fun Circus 2 if it still worked

>>5133654
Good man. My favorite is Laundry 2, even it is on the jokey side of things. Still gotta replay it again this year.

>>5133659
Laundry 2?
I've not heard of it

>>5133435
But Other is the more encompassing, because it can mean Robot, and literally everything and anything else, like Hermaphrodite, or Sailor.
Rachael, you dumb cunt.

What a fucking joke this entire site is sometimes.

>>5133663
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46984
You should check it out.

Wow, you guys were right, Graf is 100% on the money in that thread, I'm fully agreeing with his opinion this time.

>>5133691
why? because half life is winning in the poll?

>>5133703
I haven't even touched that poll mostly because my joke entry didn't get in ;_;

>>5133030
Cool.

fuck these faggots
seriously can they just jump down a fucking mystery hole
all at once, preferably

>>5133750
They would be a lot less bothersome if you could find the chainsaw in ROE.

>>5133750
oh yeah and these cunts also
these can go jump straight into russian traffic

>>5133750
why? I have fun helplessly watching my invaluable rocket ammo just cease existing as it collides with one of their shots. also with the 20hp splash damage of their blasts.

do you not love how creative the game gets with vulgars later on, placing them in cramped corridors immediately before and after you, and the metal panels that fall over to reveal a vulgar inhabiting it, which immediately swipes away 25hp? do you not love the 0.2 second long pounce that can OHK you in nightmare difficulty?

this is some flawless enemy design, don't know what you're on about.

>>5133789
Nightmare is a meme difficulty in every id game except Doom 4.

>>5133789
>complaining about nightmare being unfairly hard

>>5133480
Oh fuck yeah.

>>5133841
there's an achievement for it, that's about my only reason to sit through the game like this. just because the game decides to be a fucking cunt doesn't mean I can't address just how much of a cunt it's being.

my problem is that it speaks volumes of ROE being unbalanced on both extremes of difficulty. literally any other setting is a cakewalk through and through, but then you have this. wasn't throwing in your equivalent of the Shikari from Blood 2 enough?

>>5133459
He/she/it didn't pander, but rather made a sensible decision from programming standpoint.

>>5133574
Aw fuk yea bad toys 3D

>>5133275
>Precarious situation

>>5133521
Thief: The Dark Project

>>5133363
Nuts runs fine for me on both.

SQUAD QUIET DOWN

>>5133897
not an FPS. even if you wanted to go through it shooting every guard & monster i doubt itd be possible due to arrow scarcity

>>5133917
Replace Shooter with Stealth, and its an FPS.

>>5133902
oh hey, I saw that guy in hunt down the freeman :)
what a great game that was

Heya, guys! I'd like to hear your opinions on this idea:

Several worlds are collinding together, and all sorts of "end of the world" scenarios happen in all of them, Nazis opening portals to hell, robot uprising, mutant rebellions, zombie apocalypse, alien invasions, nuclear wars, anomalous magical disasters etc.
and the Protagonist has to fight his way out through all of them.
Every world has its own enemies, as well as a set of weapons and magic/tech for player, but the player is not limited in their use (like in other games that follow same idea) and can use any weapon in any world, though ammo/mana for "out ofplace" weapons would be scarcer at first.
In the first ~25% of the game worlds are relatively separate and player gets to visit each one, but then they begin to merge - pieces and locations of one world get "sewn in" the fabric of the others, and its inhabitants hate each other as much as the player.
The situation becomes more twisted and insane as the game progresses.

Another sort-of-core idea is that every level has one or two secrets with unique weapons/spells that aren't the part of main arsenal and can range from a fun novelty to an alternative/improved versions of the earlier weapons that can't be acquired anywhere else, so if the base arsenal is 14-16 guns, then the complete one would be 30-40.

Every significant secret among other things carries a significant bonus - either aforementioned unique weapon/spell or a max health/mana/armor bonus (1-3 points depending on secret). Health bonus secrets usally involve summoning a miniboss of sorts (enhanced version of base enemy with additional attacks and improved HP).

>>5133025
geez another sjw game with KKK enemies shoehorned in

>>5133574
>vote half-life
>only play counter strike or tfc

lmao

>>5133435
>But do we have to? This has historic origins. Do we change every piece of art just because what it displays does not match current social standards anymore? Even though this is just a game - and even there just a very minor thing - the entire attitude at display here is setting a dangerous precedent.

shame graf doesn't have this stance on everything else in gzdoom

>lol who cares about other genders we're not changing shit fuck off
>whoops did your mod just broke boohoo go update it then

>>5133435
Oh, good, now I can't even be an agendered asshole in an outdated vidya that I'm mostly playing single-player. Amazing.
>it's more PC than "Other", anyhow, and will make the "it" pronouns valid and less offensive
Fuck you, Rachael. Fuck you. What kind of logic is that?

>>5133435
>renaming an entire option suitable for non-binary genders to "robot" is politicaly correct
>renaming pronouns is somehow an outrageous proposition that would break everything in gzdoom
I sure do love when people who try to pretend progressive massively screw up, outing themself as pretenders.

>>5133981
>>5133985
He/she/it is right, you know.
If it's a Robot, then it's an "it", no second guesses, simpler to program, deflects the criticism.
and also pisses off SJWs since they can only be either binary or not be a living thing at all lol

>>5133890
Sensibility is negligible here. You can't BREAK mods by adding more options. Worst case scenarion, something wouldn't work with a new option, in which case you can either revert to working ones or implement a small exception handler in your mod.

>>5133994
>If it's a Robot, then it's an "it", no second guesses
While you are undoubtedly correct, claiming that all-encompassing "Other" is less PC than kicking out everyone else but robots is laughable.
I mean, if you're gonna pander, at least pander in a way that wouldn't frame you as a dumb SJW wannabe.

>>5133435
From a technical standpoint, how hard would it be to implement a wide gender selection, like in one of those meme pics? Is it handled like classes or differently?

>>5133435
How the fuck can you english-speakers be so dumb?
Just rename "gender" to "sex", LMAO.
Difference between them is one of the first things I learned in english classes. How are you SO FUCKING BAD at your own language?

>>5133435
Reading that thread, it looks like they only renamed it to Robotic to make it referring to the player as an it make more sense.

I think a better solution would've been to have both Other and Robot as choices, and give other the "they/them" pronouns. But again, reading that thread, it also looks like they honestly couldn't be bothered.

>>5134021
Speaking of GZDoom devs being bothered at all, is there some kind of plan for development or do they just roll out random features without rhyme or reason?

>>5133435
If you're gonna post this flamewar-inducing shit, at least post ALL of it, and not just the shit-flinging bits.

https://github.com/coelckers/gzdoom/pull/610

>>5133435
...Why not change it back to "Cyborg"?

>>5133521
All of them

>>5134045
Because cyborgs are people, duh. Modified people, but still. Robots are the only way to go. Even synths won't do.

>>5134028
No plan is known so far

>>5134041
>Many things about Old English and Middle English were way better than Modern English. Unfortunately, France. Oh well.

i kekd

The one feature I'm most excited about is possibility of full VR. I know it's a novelty, but an incredibly exciting one.

>>5134051
>possibility of full VR
I mean, it would be cool, yeah, but sprite-based engine in VR still sounds like a sub-par idea.

>>5134061
It's already a thing with GZ3Doom and its OpenVR fork that allows for motion controller support people that have tried this said it looks just fine. much better than many other VR experiences.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebyXt_vvu-Q
Though it would need special models with scopes or a lazersight mod that actually draws the lazer in the air. Holding a severed hand with a handgun instead of a handgun itself sure looks Kira-tier funky

>>5134016
how are you an actual adult?

>>5134016
'sex' rules out the option for 'other', as there are only two sexes, friend. meanwhile according to tumblr there are more than just two genders, so that's why they went for gender as base. the outrage is over a single word being altered to conform to a herd of idiots.

maybe try and gauge the details of an argument in a bit harder before you pull the smug act and openly mock the people you interact with. you just embarrassed yourself and your country's entire education system.

>>5134080
>>5134016

>>5134157
No fuckin way.

>>5134163
Honestly, if they don't announce it at Halloween night, it will be a missed opportunity

>there are people that actually think ultimate doom's maps aren't too easy

>>5134237
Well, they DO give you a harder start.

>>5132923
>>5132923
I don't shure about others, but System Shock 1 and Shadow Warrior Redux is amazing, make sure to get Enhanced edition for System Shock because vanilla without mouse mod is a mess.

>>5132180
How do you think Quake 2 is better thank Duke. Explain.

>>5134170
>Honestly, if they don't announce it at Halloween night, it will be a missed opportunity
*release

I guess they're siding with the cancer because there's no way that post was made by someone who wanted to talk about doom.

>>5134301
This relates to this site btw.

>>5134301
>>5134304
*dabs on u*

>>5134176
cool

>>5133435
Why not just change "it" to "them" or "their" etc? You fucking retards.

>>5134157
Hold the fuck up. will they?

Am I allowed to say that Wolfenstein is shit here?

>>5134505
No.

>>5134505
Which Wolfenstein?

S'Arais is better than you and LOTX is great
Now watch me be banned for free speech.

this was posted to 3drealms's discord https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/506807778103263243/506808291871948810/codename_mourningvale.gif

>>5134520
Original
The single story level design feels incredibly outdated

>>5134530
You're not wrong, but I wouldn't call it shit.
I'd call it archaic and outdated.
Maybe "shit by comparison" with most FPSes from Doom going forward.

>>5134530
You don't have to like it. It gets boring for me too. That style of level design limitation would be better suited to a more fast run and gun arcadey type game. Mowing down tons of enemies, getting points, fighting bosses, etc. The sprawling single floor levels don't do it for me. It's not bad, for it's time, but it was blown out of the water like a year after release.
Would be better as an RPG, really.

>>5134530
I thought you meant the stealth games for Mac, since 3D isnt the first

>>5134176
>another kegan weapon set with a overheating system.
Just admit you have a fetish for this shit.

>>5134176
>>5134549

When Kegan gets all hot and bothered, he needs to let off some steam by beating monsters with his rod.

>>5134526
what's that?
a new game ?
or a canceled game?

>>5134569
looks like the mystery quake engine game

>>5134526
Converted it to webm for those who are too lazy to follow the link (and because the gif was too big for /vr/).

>>5134530
So far, there have only been three good games in the entire series. Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Wolfenstein: The New Order, and Wolfenstein: The Old Blood. Everything before and after those three is hot garbage, and you're not wrong.

>>5133940
Alright two things:
1) This is an idea that has been tried and tested. Project Warlock literally just did it. Daikatana tried it and failed hard.

2) Even if you started working on it, you won't finish it. The concept of making that many different textures and combining them slowly over time is a lot more work than you think. Having that many weapons and sub bosses and enemy types and level layouts, it's just ludicrous. If you could pull it right out of your head and slap it onto a screen, and it would be perfect, sure I would play it. However, it would never be what you're imagining it to be right now.

Sorry to be so negative but honestly, I think you'd be much better off starting at a mapset. Make a few of the different environments and worlds, then see how you fare. If you feel like it's possible, you could push for it, but I never would.

>>5133705
what game are you referring to ?

>>5134742
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFpxTt5aoFw

>>5134740
Both Warlock and Daikatana separate their worlds into distinct episodes, and Daikatana does not allow to keep weapons

>>5134727
To be honest, TNO is only marginally better than "hot garbage". Old Blood is only good thing that came out of modern Wolfenstein, and considering how much of a positive response New Colossus gathered, we are unlikely to see any better.

>>5134691
Too bad they didnt go for real portals. I'm sure they couldve programmed it with shaders, considring they are already using that water one.

>>5134747
TNC was true trash though
TOB was the real deal

>>5134745
huehuehue

>Total Chaos
>Doom II mod | Released Oct 31, 2018
>Released Oct 31, 2018
>Oct 31, 2018
How... how?

>>5134759
ye
tomorrow

>>5134757
That's the thing.
TNC got more postive response from the press than TOB (which was underhyped so to speak) , so they are more likely to follow TNC route now.

>>5134764
It says "released"

What are the best halloween horror wads/mods to be playing?

Cacodemons are bullet sponges

>>5134759
Maybe the author lives in an Eastern hemisphere timezone?

>>5134779

>>5132902

c.kid huh?

>>5134301
good post, you sure showed them, whatever the fuck you're talking about

The Crimson Deed Public Beta released! Happy Halloween! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L7kob0qTbI
Get it here: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=62152

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L7kob0qTbI

>>5134075
>https://github.com/coelckers/gzdoom/pull/610
He makes a good point, since you CAN simply change it to 'sex' and change robot's to "none" instead of "other". Sex is unambiguous whereas gender is a clusterfuck of stupid opinions.

>>5134992
that's quite a bit more than he let out in his shitty post, kudos.

>>5134879
this but with spike and kat
>>5134915
awesome

>>5133435
who the fuck cares

Is it me or do D64 Arachnotrons have their firing speed increasing, aside from shooting two projectiles at once?

>>5135098
didn't you post this already.

>>5135112
That was the number of times they shoot, not their speed.

besides metadoom and maybe one of the dump episodes, has there been any other mod with something from the id rpg phone games?

>>5134879
kegan on top right

>>5134157
Doom 3 confirmed

>>5134157
I see this post LITERALLY after I finish part of this project I'm working on at college that's heavily influenced by Blood. This is neat shit.

>>5135217
kek

>>5134549
I like heat management systems as long as something interesting is done with it. Kustam will have the last set that involves heat management anyway

I want somebody to make a wad where you kill frog and wojak posters

>>5135237
What's stopping you from making it?

Is GZDoom finally capable of recreating PSX and 64 effects 1:1?

>>5135237
We get it, you hate /pol/, enough already

So anyone played Total Chaos? How is it?

>>5135237
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/94791-leftist-doomers/
Oh hey, it's this guy again.

Pistol start in Map 24: No Escape in D64 is really hard.

What's another good WAD to play the latest version of Brutal Doom with? I've done Extermination Day, D2 Reloaded, and Whispers of Satan.

>>5135417
>filters

>>5135329
>Is GZDoom finally capable of recreating PSX and 64 effects 1:1?

Nope. Funny how 20 year old consoles still beat high end PCs. ;)

He's using BD, should be no surprise he's also using filters

>>5135436
He's using BD, should be no surprise he's also using filters

>>5132923
pick up the soldier of fortune games on GOG if you can, 1 and maybe 2 are the best

>>5133447
oof that cybercrime tho

you also forgot Invasion UAC

>>5135417
DSC

>>5135237
then make it, you faggot

>>5134237
E4M1 starts you somewhat tough, and keeps you starved on ammo and health.
E4M2 starts you pretty rough, also not giving you a whole lot of health or ammo.
E4M3 starts you with a dozen hidden shotguns aiming at you, as well as the attention of a bunch of others, you really gotta rush and secure a spot for yourself SOMEWHERE or else you probably die (as a sidenote, this level is pretty much not playable with mods such as Hideous Destructor).
E4M9 starts you surrounded (mostly by low tier mooks, however).

The first couple of maps of E4 start you pretty harsh, but it really calms down after M3/M9, and then the difficulty really isn't particularly bad for the rest of the episode.
I kind of wish it would have maintained that theme for all of it.

>>5134727
>>5134747
>>5134757
I was honestly not that impressed by TOB, I liked TNO much more.
Kind of dreading playing TNC though, I hear a LOT of bad things about it.

RTCW was pretty much the best game in the series, IMO.

>>5134176

>>5132812
Final Doomer+ is a blast to play. Doing a run of Plutonia with it now and it's hella fun.

>>5131797
Banzai

>>5132862
>>5132870
>>5132873
Epic 1 is so much better than Epic 2

>MAP24: No Escape (Doom 64)

Man this feels like a luck based map. There's nowhere to hide, and so many enemies shooting you. How did anyone beat this on console?

I'm not crazy thinking D64 is way harder than Final Doom right?

NO NO Sin should be winning in the poll

>>5135713
Vinny vinesauce beat this and he's DSP-tier, you have no excuse.

>>5135713
Git gud nigger

>>5135719
He's bad at videogames, but I would not call him DSP-tier.

>>5135737
nah hes DSP-tier, he just has humor, personality, and a sense of humility of his abilities

>>5135737
You're right, even DSP is good at one game, SF4, he went to tourneys and did well for the most part.

>>5135719
I thought that was the other one

>>5135747
what?

>>5135748
I think he's talking about Joel and they're both mediocre at video games

>>5135719

On original console, which means no saves on Watch me Die? Or did he save scum?

>>5135747
>>5135765
Joel's bad but not as bad as Vinny, especially in Doom, though it may be hard to measure since Joel plays maps made by his watchers which can vary greatly in difficulty whereas Vinny mostly plays novelty mods like gameplay wads, eg russian overkill.

>>5135713
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHNxplKH86Y

>>5135679
I disagree, Epic 2 is much more well made.

>>5135679
Then why is Epic 1 basically unknown, while everyone always mentions specifically Epic 2?

>>5135819
That hasnt been my perception at all.
IIRC Epic 2 had more puzzley and slaughtery maps, which turned me off.

>>5135778

Beat it. It was easier when I changed my strategy, and got the Chaingun and armor first. Then using just the standard shotty, take out the Cyberdemon on the ledge where he can't hit me. Then after that I go for the Super Shotgun, and others.

That path makes things way easier. Getting the SS without armor is a bit of a luck game since it spawns tons of Shot gun zombies.

If you're a Blood player you should check out the mod called Death Wish.It just got an update for Halloween: https://www.moddb.com/mods/death-wish-for-blood

>>5135842
Epic 2 isn't TOO much my taste, Alex 'Eternal' takes a lot of cues from Eternal Doom, which I never loved.
He does however do MUCH better, what Eternal Doom itself did, and though I never loved tracking for switches or wading through large swathes of monsters that often, Epic 2 is very well made, particularly with the visuals.

>>5135896
Ah shitte ladds

I find both Epic 1 and 2 great, but obviously there is more to enjoy in 2 since it's a megawad. The visuals are great considering vanilla limitations and most of the puzzles/secrets are pretty damn satisfying to do.

Is there a wad that gives Doom 64 sprites (weapons, enemies, items), as well as stats (player and enemy speed, health, etc)?

I generally like the balance of D64 more than standard. I feel the monsters are faster and more aggressive too. But I haven't seen any breakdown to confirm or deny that.

I know I can get the sprites, that's super easy. I'm more interested in the game balance.

>>5135946
You can play BD64 with any regular wad IRC.

>>5135960
>BD64

>>5135960

>brutal doom

Stuck on Mother Brain or whatever. Problem is, I have no clue what her attack pattern is, so I die within 15 seconds of facing her. Then slogging through like 8 minutes of monster fighting to get her. Rince repeat. Stuck on her for hours.

Enemy that has killed me the most in D64 by far? Lost Souls. They're unbelievably aggressive and strong. If one catches you off guard, suddenly you've lost 50+ health.

Pain Elementals have to be treated like boss characters, and need to be assassinated ASAP. In comparison, Barons of hell and Hell Knights are just Imps with more HP.

>>5134157
NO IT CAN'T BE!

I've played Knee-Deep in the Dead a lot (I had only Shareware Doom back then), but other episodes I've only played twice and never finished Thy Flesh Consumed and Doom 2.
Never got into Quake either.
Can I be redeemed or should I off myself now because I'm a failure?

>>5134157
But we already got BloodGDX, who cares about another port that'll cost money?

>>5136001
Isnt there Pillars you can use for cover for her attacks? also get ready for a reply saying you should have completed the Unmaker.

>>5136001
The monster fighting can be avoided if you have found all demon keys in the secret levels.
As for the boss itself, circle-strafe and avoid her ground attack (run away straight from her if fireballs are chasing you). Until then, conserve as much health and cells as you can for the boss.
Stun-lock pain elementals with chaingun and break line of sight with souls when you are not attacking.

>>5136020
I'd say release of the real source code and maybe a brand new episode

>>5136016
Don't forget No Rest For The Living and Final Doom!

>>5134879
This is fantastic.I've had to keep myself from making this joke constantly on Golf nights because damn do we post thirsty enough comments about C.Kid as it is.

>>5132812
Sun Damage Omen, Highway to Hell