/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5134951
You should stick to your PC.

>>5134951
I have one to play on the main modern TV when I have friends over and it's fine for that purpose, or if I don't own the console/flashcart for a certain game I want to play, or I don't want to swap out whatever console is hooked up to my CRT.

People like to shit on it for the input lag or whatever, but honestly it's fine.

>>5134951
FI'm r he maoaka Hana,am

>>5134951
Literally no reason to get one. Most of us have an old laptop lying around we can do the exact same thing with. Heck, even if I didn't I would sooner buy an old laptop than spend any money on this thing.

They're even gayer than those mini consoles

>>5134951
just use an old computer

>>5135028
This. I wanted one for the longest time only to find out it's not powerful enough to be a decent emulation substitute (at least for my tastes). Also, I don't have the creativity to use it for one of those obscure projects involving sensors, lasers and shit.

If anything, the HDMI out would be the only good thing about it since using a Wii for emulation on a newer tv will look like trash.

>>5134951
Stick to PC if you can't afford that get a wii. Pi's are rubbish.

>>5134951
I looked into getting one, but the price of entry is absurd if you want to play anything smoothly. It's probably cheaper to just buy a second hand Wii U and hack it instead.>>5134951

>>5134951
For faggots and pc emulation is for criminals.

>>5134951
it's always the same thing every time someone buys one of these

>I can do so many cool things!
>*sits for three months*
>I can uh make a retropi
>*loses its appeal after an hour

>>5134951
>is it the ultimate device to use for roms
No. No it is not.

>>5135045
>using a Wii for emulation on a newer tv will look like trash
not really if you use component cables

>>5135054
just how many emulators can you use

the wiis saturn emulator is trash

>>5135040
what if you wanna play rom games on the tv?

>>5135070
i think p much all saturn emulators are still trash. the psx core seems to run okay on the pi and of course all 16 bit stuff and lower runs fine

I’ve used mine as a retropie for months but have since repurposed my Pi to a wireless bridge for my PS2 for SMB sideloading a Pi-hole. Much better use for me.

>>5135072
You connect the laptop to your TV.

>>5134951
It's expensive when you consider
1) no battery
2) no case
3) no peripherals

It has trouble with 5th gen emulators as it lacks required power.

Also, raspberry pi isn't "freedom" free, nor is it really the best mini-system at anything in particular other than having the most popular community.

>>5134951
Why not both?

>>5134951
you can get a refurb pc for not much more that will effortless emulate everything you want at least upto 5th gen which the PI won't.

>>5134951
It’s roughly equivalent to a low end pentium 4 era Celeron. It’s better to buy a cheap Pc from goodwill and set that up as your emu box

>>5134951
You can use one to get your Dreamcast back online.

>>5135187
dreampis drop out so fucking much in PSO. it was worth the $150 for a BBA

Does Raspberry Pi emulate Neo Geo well?

>>5134951
I've a modded psx with a lot of burned games but I prefer playing on a pi3 (not plus) hooked on an external monitor on my desk
it's smaller, silent, has faster loading, I can use a wireless gamepad (or even the originals ds or ds2 with an adapter) and I don't have to swap CDs while choosing between hundreds of gigabytes of games without moving my lard ass from the couch
emulation is good enough for psx/(s)nes/megadrive/portables, garbage for n64, didn't try other systems
also excellent video machine with kodi if you install youtube and watchcartoononline addon
it costed me €35 for the board, €15 for power supply and case, €10 for 16gb sdcard, €30 for f710 gamepad and a savaged hdd from dead laptop with a sata to usb enclosure
it's good value for me, haters are retarded and tech illiterate, I don't care

>>5135163
it consume a fraction of the energy of a p4 though
it's gonna cost you a lot less in the long run with the same result

On the yt channel eta prime you can watch some good reviews but (SPOILER ALERT) the odroid is much better

Your PC is better but if you want something you can drag everywhere and not give a shit about it a Pi3 is pretty nice. Just don't be a turbofag and use lakka instead of broken fucking Retropie

>>5135330
Lakka is way too buggy.

>>5135345
How are you this stupid

>>5135223
There's something I don't understand though - how could anyone fit that amount of cock in their mouths that they are now worried about the near infinitesimal cost of running a processor? Did you get all your teeth removed to do it?

>>5135206
Yes, they do... But then again, so do android devices and pretty much every cheap Pandora Box clone.
The only things I like about Pi's is they are configurable by the end user, have many emulator ports, and they have a GPIO so you can direct wire arcade controls without the need for a separate encoder.
The Pi 3 model B+ is a good option, but there are better ones. If you're looking to build a portable from scratch, or an emulation console built into the controller, it's not bad (so long as you add heatsinks) But these were made for makers and tinkerers, not so much for the normie looking for an emulation setup.

PC is still the better solution, because you are not limited to 2GB of ram and the onboard video.
Also, there are better Single-board PC solutions for emulation, one example being the Odroid xu4 which can handle more complex emulators with ease (2ghz Octa-core processor, 2gb ddr3 Mali graphics chip and active cooling out of the box)

The main thing going for the RaspberryPi is stability and and the fact that it's established, so there are tons of resources, images and support online. Maybe wait to see what the Pi4 will be like.

>>5135368
You can power a Pi off a rechargable battery, can't do that with a desktop as easily (laptop maybe, but runtime won't be as long). This is why low-power devices are kind of a big deal.

Pi's were made so tinkerers, inventors and makers could develop IoT with them; More capable than arduino but the same (or smaller) form factor. Not really the best solution for emulating games, but probably the best for fitting an emulation solution into an NES cart shell or a controller. You could fit a RPi zero into an NES controller with room to spare. It's a solution for specific applications, not the best solution for best emulation quality, though.
Don't use a hobbyist's board if you want to game seriously, use a serious solution like a PC if you want that.

>>5135368
Not the guy you replied to, but YOU are a MASSIVE GAY LORD. The difference between running a 20W SoC and a 400W PC is 20x the electricity cost. Why the fuck would you want to spend $200/yr on electricity for your emubox when you could send $10/yr. Now this said i don't like rpis, but i would go a SoC over a PC any day for a single-purpose machine.

The main problem with the various Pi boards is they are beginning to run into the territory of diminishing returns; Powering over micro USB is a major bottleneck, which is why you are starting to see other Pi-style single-board PCs move to barrel jacks or other power connector solutions. Also, some boards are coming out with expansion in mind, with options to add laptop RAM expansions, external GPU cards, SATA drive hosting and large capacity eMMC modules. In the process, as performance potential goes up, so does power consumption.

>>5135363
Like super buggy.

>>5135368
hey guys, this zoomer doesn't pay the electric bill.

>>5134951
I have one with retropie on it that I use to play games on my hdtv and it works great.

>>5135483
Like super stupid

>>5134958
This is why I don't bother with Pi emulators.
They're such a fucking waste of time and a machine if you already have a PC to use.

Don't get me wrong, I've made them before, they're great for gifting, but I've got better things to do with a Pi

>>5135101
>nor is it really the best mini-system at anything in particular other than having the most popular community
>having the most popular community
>most popular community

This is why I like the Pi, it's rock solid in terms of support.
However, it lacks balls.

>>5135075
>i think p much all saturn emulators are still trash.

SSF was running 90% games fine back in 2006. I finished Castlevania, all Panzer Dragoons, Fighters Megamix, Radiant Silvergun on it.

>>5134951
What's the point? Just use your laptop hooked to your TV or something.

>>5134951
>redpill me on this thing
- Really ancient GPU from 2012.
- GPU hardware has feature only up to GLES 2.0 / OpenGL 2.1
- GPU has raw floating point compute power of 24 GFlops, which is about equal to a PS Vita, and somewhere between an iPhone 4 and iPhone 5.
- Can't do modern OpenGL (3.0+)
- No IOMMU on the GPU, it's the shader's job not to fuck up with the SDRAM's contents.
- Cortex A-53 idles at 60 degrees Celsius on a hot summer day with no heatsink/cooling fan.
- Very limited (almost none?) branch prediction and speculative execution unit on the CPU.
- 1 GB of RAM limit (shared between CPU and GPU) "hardcoded" into the SoC. Adding more than 1 GB RAM requires major SoC overhaul.
- CPU so weak that processing analog stick input on a wired USB gamepad can cause input delay

You can run emus up to: PS1, N64, Sega CD, PSP, NDS.

tl;dr : if you know what you're doing, it's fine. If you don't, stick to a PC.

>>5135779
>Radiant Silvergun

And now we know you are not a real man...

>>5135223
I’m not saying to get a p4. You can easily find i5 or i3 gen 3+ systems at goodwill. I just bought an i5 4570 with 8gbs of ram and a 22” monitor there for 50 bucks. I’m gonna slap a graphics card in that bitch and sell it

As long as you're emulating SNES or lower, this deice is basically perfect.

"But, muh PC..." is fucking huge; this is a little thing to plug into a TV. You can even put it in a case that resembles a mini console.

"But, muh Wii is cheaper..." than 36 dollars? Okay, if you say so.

>>5136692
>"But, muh Wii is cheaper..." than 36 dollars? Okay, if you say so.
I do say so.

>>5136692
>"But, muh PC..." is fucking huge; this is a little thing to plug into a TV.
You can get PCs in all sorts of sizes and shapes, whether it is a HDMI stick or a box that mounts behind your TV. You can even mount them in a console case.

>>5136692
>As long as you're emulating SNES or lower, this deice is basically perfect.
I can't disagree with this. A wii however will also run VC games, Wii games and possibly Gamecube if you have the proper ports for the controllers.

>>5136692
>is fucking huge
>>5136831
>You can get PCs in all sorts of sizes and shapes
A wii is smaller in size than most PC power supplies. It already comes in a case, and does more then a PI can do and is much easier for someone who has no clue whatsoever. Letterbomb can't be easier, and using the SD card for cart emulation couldn't be easier. It also runs pretty much every game up to the 4th generation without issue. It does not do Genesis 32x games, but will do Sega CD. And it does all of this with just using letterbomb and an sd card. Adding Nintendont and an external hard drive allows someone to play every Nintendo game ever made outside of the N64 up to the Wii itself all from backup media.

>>5136692
>Okay, if you say so.
$40 or less is a fair market price for a working wii. I just bought one that came with the aftermarket long range sensor, a dumb game, the disney infinity pad and 6 of the disney characters. It also came with the power pack. I paid $38 for it + 8 shipping. I would never pay more than $40 for a used wii, and think that $40 is a fair price for what you get.

I am partial to the wii. It offers 240p-480p output and is brutally simple to setup. I would tell anyone to also install PRIILOADER as a precaution and as a useful utility. Booting the wii directly to your homebrew channel or USBLoader is a nice feature as well.

I am not saying the PI is shit, but I think it has better uses.

>>5136872
>A wii is smaller in size than most PC power supplies.
Not every PC uses an ATX PSU.

It's fantastic for what it is and quite shitty for what it's not. People try to overclock the thing to hell and back to play PSP games on it and fail because either it's unstable as shit due to the overclock or it still doesn't work at full frame rates (which is the case for 99% of PSP games)

But if you want to built your own PS1/NES/SNES-mini/classic then by all means, buy one and install RetroPie. PS1 runs especially flawless for some reason.

It's not a bad system for what it is. I bought a pi3b+, got a canakit GPU heatsink and a Flirc Gen2 case to keep it cool and overclocked it to 1.5ghz and 550mhz. Keep in mind not all pi's overclock the same.
It runs NES, SNES, Turbo Graphix, Sega Genesis/CD/32 and PS1, CPS1/2/3, NEO GEO flawlessly and some other systems as well. I'd recommend if you do go any higher such as N64/Dreamcast/PSP you stick to a compatibility list of games that work decently.
Be sure to mess with max_swapchain and frame_delay settings to lower input lag as much as you can get away with (this is where the overclock comes in handy).
It's not bad for what it is, I enjoy mine.

>>5134951
PC/Wii/etc blows any single board computer out of the water, but RaspPi does have some benefit to creating something portable that's slightly more powerful than the PSP/3DS for non PSX games. It takes some effort if you're going to make a shell and put together a battery/screen/controller combo though, but you can get something that's about the size of a gameboy pocket if you work at it.

I ultimately decided that most of the roms I'd want to play on the go anyway were just PSX CDs, so I stuck with a PSP, but as it gets old and more worn down, I'm thinking of taking up the project again.

>>5136892
>Not every PC uses an ATX PSU.
This is the reason I used the word "most".

>almost 2019
>still using a SBC using a SoC of 2011 for your emulatin'
why?

It's just one of those meme millennial technologies, like e-cigs and 3d printing.

>>5138504
t. zoomer

But what about arcade games? Are there any decent mame and cps emulators? I’d like to play 4 player arcade games with my friends.

>>5138529

MAME/FBA works great on raspberry pi for most arcade games up to the mid 90's Some beyond, but boards get pretty powerful at that point.
4 player is trickier. Most of the cores for retroarch on pi are limited to two controllers. But one or two aren't (experiment), and the pi has 4 USB ports.

>>5136271
>CPU so weak that processing analog stick input on a wired USB gamepad can cause input delay
source?

>>5134951
RedPill? ...What? Clean your room. Go to bed early and stop masturbating to pornography and join a gym.

>>5134951
Now that I know about MiSTer, I would probably not bother with ARM-based minicomputers for emulation purposes anymore.

>>5135040
>starts off his sentencr with literally
I bet you are the smartest sounding kid in your school

>>5135040
except it literally run emulators better then my intel gpu laptop
also overheat less

>>5134951

>skip to 4:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxPsIT0QvCg
for starters, you can make your own arcade cab.

>>5136896
Could you point toward a good guide for getting PS1 set up on it?

Can't really pill you on anything, but at least for me it seems sort of pointless. I mean if you're buying raspberry, you most likely already have bunch of stuff that can emulate games. It's probably cool toy for some projects

>>5135040
Which makes me wonder, are there any graphics cards that let you output 240p rgb signal to a consumer crt? Would be neat to play emulators on my crt.

>>5135045
read only pussy lmao not evne writable

>>5134951
it's way slower and shittier at emulation and basically all other tasks than my windows 98 box from two decades ago despite having like ten times its specs on paper. i'm just not real impressed.

>>5139134
Yes. Soft15khz is compatible with quite a few video cards. CRT_emudriver is a little more demanding in terms of chipsets (ATI only) and there is a video card that's made specifically for this purpose called ArcadeVGA. I know you specifically asked about RGB but I'll still specifically stress that these all do output RGB only and will require transcoding for Component YPbPr or other applications.

>>5134951
It's too weak for anything, and not even portable. Here are ultimate devices for ROMs:
Switch (once it gets emulators) > GPD XD+ > PSVita/PSP > GPD Win 2
If you want a non-portable solution then just buy the Ataribox, it's 220$ and basically as powerful as laptops that cost up to 3x as much. Or just buy the LattePanda which is x86 architecture and more powerful than the Pi.

>>5139134
Can only speak for consumer graphics cards, but currently only second hand ones can output analog signal.

>>5134951
For 8-bit and 16-bit, it's fine. 5th Gen games are going to be game by game basis. I played Parasite Eve 1 all the way through, even doing the Chrysler building dungeon on the pi. If your Power supply sucks, it will throttle the board down, one time the amps dropped so low and frames went to 1 a minute. Could not recover and ended up resetting.

I would suggest an old laptop, using a Core2Duo/quad, or an early i3 or i5, should be more stable. If you get one with a bad screen, you can do something neat in making a case.

>>5134951
if you're stuck with hdmi, guess you could do worse
personally i'd buy one if someone would port netflix to raspbian, so i could run it natively from emulation station

>>5136692
>SNES or lower
I play up to PSX just fine.

>>5136692
>Wii
>36 bucks
Bruh, i got mine for like 10 bucks on a thrift store