/vr/ - Retro Games

is there some kind of list detailing wierd/obscure ps1 games? i've become obsessed with this lately

https://youtu.be/bRywm_VgZMQ

>>5122874
germs is cool. So is LSD

>>5122892
already seen both, but thanks anyway anon

>>5123107
gegege no kitarou is pretty trippy

Roly Polys is apparently in archive.org's custody, so it won't be lost anymore soon. Too bad they've been wasting their time on browser emulation rather than going through all their old shit...

>>5123594
source?

There's nothing interesting about these games now that everyone knows about them and Sato is in constant communication with Americans.

>>5123862
They're still good games

>>5123862
>"it was only good because it was unknown and japanese"
go away

>>5123790
https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/1030215264837750786

>>5124070
He kind of has a point though
The mystique is gone now that every Youtuber on the planet has tried to cash in on these and Sato just spills deets whenever he feels like
Part of the appeal was the idea that these weird-ass games were obscure and unheard of even by hardcore nip fan standards. With that gone, they're still neat but certainly feel less special and enigmatic
Seriously, though, fuck Youtubers

>>5123862
>muh sekrit games

>>5124070
he has a point

>>5124070
Oh, don't act like that wasn't a huge part of it.

>>5124341
Yea, for people like him, but more exposure means more lost games will be found. Only posers like something because its obscure, and not because of the actual interesting content

This ps1 game takes place in kowloon walled city in china. A city that is pretty much a big ass building. Its quite the site to behold. Game is pretty strange.

>>5124484
>but more exposure means more lost games will be found.
Doubtful
>>5124491
Sato didn't work on Kowloon, anon. Maybe you got the wrong thread?

>>5123578
The first-person survival horror or the run and gun?

>>5124501
Read the OP you massive faggot
>Also general weird or obscure games thread I guess

>>5124308
Why do you care so much about it being unknown? First of all, eastern mind is still relatively obscure and its sequel is even more so. Second of all, exposure doesn't preemptively change the game, it's the exact same game as it was released back then, people learning about it doesn't make it any different

>>5124501
>Doubtful
Esoteric Retina was found this year, cunt. Not to mention last year the very first music release of his was found as well. People are still finding shit he made years later, especially with /vr/ practically resurrecting Chu Teng

>>5124580
>>5124484
/vr/ did just fine finding Garage and Chu-Teng by itself. We don't need Twitter and Youtube's help, newfags.

>>5124591
The point isn't that either helped, it's about why you care so much about your precious sekrit cluv

>>5124613
because they form their identities on things that are obscure and when one of those things gets revealed to any mass of people the bubble that they live in pops. if the thing is truly good to you, then it shouldnt matter how many people draw attention to it, even if they are faggots. what matters is the effect it had on you. and thats individual. if others see it as just one or a few superficial things, then you know they suck. its all about what you take away from it. and if you let other peoples perceptions guide you on how you view something cool then thats your own issue.

point is dont purposely withhold cool shit for the vain of obscurity. there are plenty of people like you that would genuinely love what it is youre not sharing thats only avenue of discovery is through a small channel that only a 'lucky' few are able to stumble across.

tl;dr dont hoard & plz archive

>ITT: faggots pretending that something becoming popular doesn't lead into it becoming garbage
You'll regret all of your words once Sato's works become the next Tumblr fad and an autistic fandom gathers around it, shitting and spewing vile rancid fluids all over what was once a fascinating set of games that were so obscure, they could barely be confirmed to have actually existed
Who cares, though, right. As long as my favorite Youtuber and 12 year old friends can make le ebin randum memes XD out of these games, it's all good

>>5124719
do you not understand that all of this is an eventuality. that everything ultimately leads to this and then passes over? you have 0 control over whether or not this happens because all it takes is 1 person to do it.

>>5124719
youre living in a bubble boy. and eventually everything you like now youll hate because all of a sudden other people like or know about it. why are you still on 4chan and not posting someplace else now that this place has received so much attention and media coverage over a period of 12 years? you are either not as perspective as you may think you are, really just very new orrr a huge fat steaming pile of shit

>>5124715
Reminds me of pic related, bakudd. Faggot bragged about having Zeddas 3 and claimed it was shit and that the people looking for it were insane, you know, because opinions are wrong and all that.
Of course that resulted in his private collection getting leaked and him throwing a shitfit, he even came here and shared a folder full of JP PC game scans of games he's never going to upload just to be a dick.

Holy shit sure is edgy ITT, i guess 30 year old boomers can be just as pathetic as teens "discovering" their first non-pop music genre.

>>5124719
I won't regret it because im not a massive faggot that thinks the value of something intangible is based on how few people know about it.

>>5122892
I can't find a rom of Germs for the life of me. It's not in the psx torrent megapacks, not even the jap version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzYxAF0pEz4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz3E58iXNXg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQCNyeOMTfM&list=PL962F15C8239C2F73

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX7r7QVJDEM

>>5125578
Immaturity is not bound to any specific age.

>>5124719
I hate faggot tumblr liberals as much as the next man but......

Nvm you have a point

>>5124719
How or why would tumblr find it? What would they stick to, the sex room?

I recently got a Power Macintosh 6400/180, still in the process of getting it setup but the only major hurdle left for me is geting a ADB keyboard and mouse. Going to install OS 9.1 on it (want the USB support over 7.5)

Was looking for software to run on it, the more oddball the better. Whats some weird Hypercard or other software that I can run?

>>5124719
This already happened long ago, Anon.
https://www.furaffinity.net/user/camwoodstock/

How the FUCK does your experience as a player get hindered by something becoming popular?

Why the fuck would I care about "my precious thing" being praised by autistic fandoms? I couldn't care less, as long as I get to enjoy the fucking thing. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you guys.

t. Horror vidya fan that has seen his favourite genre going from genius masterpieces as Fatal Frame to Five Nights at Freddy and tons of shitty Amnesia clones.

>>5125890
>How the FUCK does your experience as a player get hindered by something becoming popular?
It dosn't
>Why the fuck would I care about "my precious thing" being praised by autistic fandoms?
You shouldn't. I don't.
> I couldn't care less, as long as I get to enjoy the fucking thing.
I seriously doubt that considering your sperg out.

I just like to find off beat, lesser talked about things because it exposes me to stuff that I likely would have never seen otherwise. Its neat finding the stuff the fell through the cracks of everyone's collective memory, sometimes you find gems with really odd ball ideas or implementation.

>>5125890
Over exposure is a real thing

If everybody and their grandma were constantly overpraising Fatal Frame (flawless 100/100 on all metrics!) and posting memes about it nonstop, when you get off social media and sit down for some vidya you're already tired of that game.

>>5124613
Well excuse fucking me for actually giving a shit about the uniqueness and intrigue of the games instead of mindlessly parroting my favourite e-celeb's opinion of it that I saw on YouTube and shitposting. You're right - it was wrong of me to actually CARE about having any kind of legitimate discussion and to want to keep it that way. What do I think this is, a message board or something?
Sometimes I forget that you can't spell /vr/ without /v/.

Also, from the lack of punctuation and tone in your other posts, I can tell you're an immigrant from either Tumblr, Twitter, or Discord (probably Tumblr). In which case, I was correct in calling you a newfag and my point is justified.

>>5125894
>I just like to find off beat, lesser talked about things because it exposes me to stuff that I likely would have never seen otherwise.
That's fine, but those things stopped becoming obscure or off-beat when you introduce them to the mainstream. When everything is "unique", nothing is.

>>5125890
Because it seriously harms intelligent discussion on the topic, which is what this board was made for. Believe it or not, when I come to /vr/, I actually don't just want to see wall after wall of shitposting and nonsense by morons. I want to see smart, educated (on the topic) people give their informed opinions so I can - gasp! - LEARN SOMETHING???? Oh not, not that!

>>5125959
>ut those things stopped becoming obscure or off-beat when you introduce them to the mainstream.
Not necessarily. Plenty of media gets some mainstream nods and still goes mostly unoccupied in it's uniqueness. A good example of this is the movie House. It was obscure for decades but became fairly well known, even in the west in the last 10 years. Even after that nothing has really copied it and it is still a unique gem on to it self.

>>5125971
>Plenty of media gets some mainstream nods and still goes mostly unoccupied in it's uniqueness.
I'd hardly call a game covered extensively by Pewdiepie, alongside every other "retro" YouTuber under the sun, and having an indie remake by Americans that Sato himself has acknowledged "unoccupied". Also, as this thread proves, it's clearly attracted the kind of morons I'd described earlier, so.

>>5125984
But, I agreed with you in my first response in that it doesn't take away from it's uniqueness and enjoyment value... You're kinda arguing for both sides at this point (>>5125890 in that popularity shouldn't remove enjoyment, and shades of the opposite in the post I'm replying to) and I'm confused at the point that you're trying to make anymore. Are you just trying to stir the pot anon?

I doubt /vr/ would even be discussing Sato if there were never any Youtube videos of his games.

>>5125959
>Believe it or not, when I come to /vr/, I actually don't just want to see wall after wall of shitposting and nonsense by morons. I want to see smart, educated (on the topic) people give their informed opinions
It's nice to dream but sometime you'll have to face reality and realize /vr/ is just /v/ for boomers

>>5125959
>Also, from the lack of punctuation and tone in your other posts, I can tell you're an immigrant from either Tumblr, Twitter, or Discord (probably Tumblr)
>Different from us, educated and illustrated 4channers

>>5125996
i doubt /vr/ would even be discussing Sato if it werent for 4chan the 315th most visited site on the internet

>>5125996
But anon, most of the youtube videos stemmed from the obsession that /vr/ had a few years back. /vr/ brought Sato back in to the light, and then Reddit did that further, and it was after that you saw the explosion of Youtube videos.
Nothing wrong with that, all the attention actually allowed for previously lost content to be found, so that's neat.

>>5125861
Sounds rad. Check out archive.org, they have a large database of obscure hypercard shit

Ah yes, Osamu Sato truly a mainstream and well known author, ask any kid at any primary school they'll be clamouring about eastern mind and about how excited they are for Roly Poly's.

>>5126148
>implying any kid in primary school these days could even name any artist at all

>>5126156
that's the joke
also meant Auteur, sorry.

>>5125993
>But, I agreed with you in my first response in that it doesn't take away from it's uniqueness and enjoyment value...
I think you're a little confused as to who exactly you're replying to. I'm the guy saying that it does take way from those things.

>>5126018
So I was right, then? You're from Tumblr? Neat, another Internet Argument won for me!

>>5126021
>all the attention actually allowed for previously lost content to be found, so that's neat.
No it didn't. Chu-Teng was found exclusively by /vr/ way before the torrent of mainstream attention.

>>5126205
What torrent of mainstream attention? Where?

>>5126214
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lsd+game
http://lsdrevamped.net/

Although, admittedly, the remake seems to be going a bit quiet, so I guess we should have been having this argument a year ago.

>>5126228
That's LSD, not eastern mind, chu teng or roly polys, that ps1 rpg which are the games we're talking about here

Yes, LSD is popular, his other works aren't and that's what we're talking about here along with other obscure games

>>5126303
In my original post, I said
>these games
implying all of his games collectively, of which LSD is the most popular. I'm sure the Undertale generation has latched onto the other games too, though.

>Osamu Sato
>game
Osamu Sato is an artist, not a game producer. His works are nothing but some interactive visual experience. I don't see how anyone could be able to play them as they're not meant to be played.

>>5126316
His other games aren't popular though

>>5126326
Chu teng has some actual gameplay segments, and eastern mind has puzzles

But yeah, LSD and roly polys are 100% more "experiences" than games

>>5124719
>my entire identity is built around being a consumer of obscure multimedia and shitty ideologies because i have zero cultivated skills, accomplishments or relationships
>if you well adjusted people engage with my Consumer Goods it is tantamount to territorial invasion
sums up the psychosis of all the socially crippled reactionary freaks on this shithole hugbox

>>5126435
Project any harder, will you? I don't think we can see all your insecurities yet.

>>5126185
I'm having one of those days. My bad
Speaking of Roly Poly's though, it's been secured hasn't it?
When will it get dumped?

>>5124719
And this post is the epitome of /vr/'s hipster contrarianism

>>5126363
Eastern Mind is getting there. The other games don't match LSD because they haven't been covered by the big Tubers yet but they'll get around to them inevitably, since their entire livelihood depends on pretending to be scared of these games or acting wacky over them
Garage is the only one that's safe since it's in Japanese and requires reading/info-gathering to progress. Tubers won't get far in it, meaning they won't get much to scream over and the masses won't be interested
Once it's translated, they'll jump on it and it will all be over

>>5124506
There's a first person survival horror gegege no kitarou game? Why hasn't anyone told me this?

>>5126523
>I'm having one of those days. My bad
It's okay anon, I still love and respect you
>Speaking of Roly Poly's though, it's been secured hasn't it? When will it get dumped?
See >>5124083

>>5126545
Cheers, anon. Nothing to do but wait, then

>>5126540
>Eastern Mind is getting there.
What? No it's not. No major youtuber has done it, the ones with the most views are by Azurite who is pretty legit and actually helped with the chu teng translation

Only other guy who did anything of note with it was Vinesauce, and he got fed up an hour in and the viewerbase was asking to switch it off the entire time

>>5126572
>was Vinesauce, and he got fed up an hour in and the viewerbase was asking to switch it off the entire time
That's weird. Him and his fans usually love strange titles like that. I remember when they would blow their loads over all sorts of half-baked indie titles just because they were atmospheric or had a single strange element to them
Wouldn't expect them to shit on Eastern Mind and dismiss it

>>5126592
They seemed to like the concept and art, the problem was binyot started out in Sha's life and got lost real quick for obvious reasons.

If I remember correctly Rev did a full playthrough of both eastern mind and chu teng

>>5126592
>>5126689
>Vinesauce

>>5126691
yeh

>>5126435
you sound like you just watched a peter coffin video

chip chip, I need the chip

Does this count?

>>5124591
Esoteric Retina and Objectless were both found by redditors. What now, bitch? :^)

>>5126996
>Real world style puzzles

>>5127038
That doesn't contradict my point whatsoever, and your lame attempt at smugness continues to prove me correct in thinking that mainstream attention attracts the dregs of the Internet.

>>5126996
Thanks for posting this! I was trying to find info on this game when I found it in a Hard-Off as "Curiosity Kills the Cat?", but couldn't find much. Seems like it's more commonly referred to as Dogday.

>>5126996
>Is a game
>Is weird / obscure
yes

Why do you guys care so much about people knowing about the game? Why can't we just talk about the game? Talk about the puzzles like how the fuck am I supposed to stop the candle from burning out before reaching the tomb in chu teng

>>5128078
you can hold down mouse to go through circle room

>>5127038
>based chad /vr/ finds good games and gives them to the masses
>c uck virgin reddit finds music albums and tries to brag about it, while getting its impotent dick sucked off by its NPC clones

>>5128186
>chu teng
>good

>>5128403
What's generally considered to be the best of Sato's games, anyways? LSD isn't much of game, so that basically leaves Rhythm N' Face & Eastern Mind, right?

>>5128449
There's also his ps1 rpg that looks fun, planetokio, never played it though

>>5122760
this is a weird game

What are some weird/obscure games a la Sato that are available in English? Other than Eastern Mind

>>5128971
Chu teng and Garage

>>5127861
Yeah that's what I was initially searching when I was trying to find it before. Sucks it has a generic name but its pretty cool from what I've played.

>>5124554
It doesn't change the game, but it does change the experience of playing it.

>>5131627
>changes the experience
How? Are people coming to your house to commentate for you when you play or something?

>>5131638
I remember what it was like to be 15 and to believe that emotions were strictly subordinate to reason, to really believe that things could exist in a vacuum, and to pretend that I was so unique as to be unaffected by the world around me, but I'm not that stupid anymore.

Imagine something that you enjoy. Now imagine that the only other people in the world who enjoyed it were degenerate, ugly, depraved, disgusting fags. You would enjoy it less just by knowing this and there is nothing you can do about it. Imagine, on the other hand, that the only other people who enjoyed that thing were strong, intelligent, beautiful ubermen. You would enjoy it more just by knowing this and there is nothing you can do about it.

Symbols, thoughts, emotions, and associations are physically real and affect the world and everyone in it whether you acknowledge this or not. Reality is that which remains even when you stop believing in it. You're not above human nature. You're not separate from existence. You're not a creature apart. Grow up.

>>5126540

There is a full playthrough of garage on youtube that is translated in the captions

>>5131728
>Now imagine that the only other people in the world who enjoyed it were degenerate, ugly, depraved, disgusting fags

Yes doctor, right here

>>5131728
Anon, what you're describing here is very personal. Yes your enjoyment of something can be affected by PUBLIC PERCEPTION. I certainly didn't want to watch Rick and Morty after the mcdonalds fiasco, I don't give a shit how revolutionary and amazing MLP is I'm not watching kiddie shit, I'm sure fortnite is amazing but I ain't touching it.

The difference here is that NONE OF THAT HAS HAPPENED WITH EASTERN MIND. There have been no big youtubers playing it, no cringy fanart, no creepypastas or fanfiction. You're ruining your enjoyment of it over something you just made up

>>5132494
>The difference here is that NONE OF THAT HAS HAPPENED WITH EASTERN MIND.
Not that anon, but I'm pretty sure what he's getting at is that it COULD happen. There's a precedent set with LSD, which absolutely did have every scenario you described happen to it. Do you really think it's so far out of the question that one of these "shitposting" morons will eventually graft themselves onto the rest of Sato's work? Work which, might I add, has definite characters to make cringy fanart, creepypasta, and memes off.

Frankly, I'm of the viewpoint that it's only a matter of time until we get official Eastern Mind/Undertale fanart. Thinking it COULDN'T happen is pure delusion, because we have proof that it could.

>>5132560
Blah blah blah slippery slope blah blah

Why is it a matter of time? How and why do you think eastern mind is going to blow up? Why do you think this nigga right here is gonna be smooching up on that undertale skeleton guy?

>>5132602
Those lips are made for kissing

>>5132602
>>Blah blah blah slippery slope blah blah
Hasn't been wrong yet!

>Why is it a matter of time?
Because of the nature of popularity on the Internet. People enter a hobby/medium/series/creator's work via a gateway entry (in this case, LSD), and spread to other works after they've rung it dry. It's why you see every stupid American 20something talking about how they were introduced to anime through Jojo or One Punch Man these days, and all the bullshit that comes along with that.

>How and why do you think eastern mind is going to blow up?
You want my tinfoil hat conspiracy theory? Because that's what you're getting, fucko:
>Moron sees LSD on Youtube
>Likes it because it's just SO creepy
>Sees the name "Osamu Sato", googles it
>Finds his Wikipedia/Reddit page (I guess TVTropes isn't really a thing anymore, but that too)
>Sees the game "Eastern Mind", learns more about it
>Shares it with all of his moron friends, because "it's even CREEPIER THAN LSD!!!"
>Moron friends spread it further, like a virus, making high-larious maymays about it and shitposting about all the koo-koo faces in it
>etc.
>Eventually, Sato becomes immediately recognizable on the Internet and opens a public Twitter page (unless he has one already, which wouldn't surprise me) where he is in constant communication with said morons
>All intrigue, mystery and uniqueness about his games evaporate, and they become just another stupid fad

Maybe it won't happen, but with the general anti-elitism viewpoints of the dinguses in these threads, and the many examples of it happening before with other games/shows/whatever, I'm not optimistic.

>>5132619
I disagree but I can tell this is more of a "I got a feelin in me bones" type of thing, and I can't argue against that

I hope you can still genuinely find joy in these types of things if possible, I'm sorry that stuff like this gets ruined for you

>>5132710
Again, my point isn't that something like this WILL happen, and WILL ruin the game for people who actually care, it's that it COULD happen, and that elitism serves a legitimate purpose beyond contrarianism, and that "not caring" isn't a good enough argument against it.

>I hope you can still genuinely find joy in these types of things if possible, I'm sorry that stuff like this gets ruined for you
Thank you.

>>5131728
This is a long-winded way to say you pay too much attention to other's, and you confound that with maturity. Sure, nobody exists in a vacuum but the leap from that fact to "this game is diminished if normalfags like it" is simply a teen-tier elitist mentality. Either appreciate the game on it's own merits or admit to yourself you care less about the game than you do about having a symbol of obscurity.

>>5132494
>You're ruining your enjoyment of it over something you just made up
I don't actually enjoy these things. I was just lurking the thread and responded to someone I disagreed with. You seem to have agreed with my point - that the association of things with desirable or undesirable things, people, or symbols has an objective, unavoidable effect. That's all I was trying to say.

>>5132947
I've merely observed the existence of an effect that objectively influences all people - completely regardless of their maturity or lack thereof. That is, that the associations of something affect your valuation of it. This is true of all people. All people want to associate themselves with positive traits and disassociate themselves from negative ones.

You're just butthurt because, as I described, you think of yourself as a unique snowflake who stands apart and above all others. Now I do actually believe that you legitimately do not interact with others and make a conscious effort to pretend that you're not influenced by their likes and dislikes, but this isn't a mark of you being separate and above. Rather it's a mark of being an outcast who has retreated within himself as a defense mechanism. Completely understandable, but my hope is that by making you aware of your pretensions you can overcome them and start breaking that wall down - admitting to yourself that you're a human like everyone else, and thus are subject to the same biases and tendencies as others.

Your entire statement is a straw man and I don't think you even understood what was being asserted.

>>5133043
>I've merely observed the existence of an effect that objectively influences all people
>admitting to yourself that you're a human like everyone else
You elevated your armchair psychology to condescending objective fact in only 3 sentences, nice.

>I don't think you even understood
My point was that YOU are making an inference of what based on your own understanding of human nature, and it doesn't universally apply, yet you seem to think it does.

>Your entire statement is a straw man
Nothing i said was a straw-man. Between your waxing poetic about maturity and reality and your assertion that i would like this game more if blonde germans played it, you made a bunch of inferences that i called out.
>"everything i don't like is a strawman"

The cerberus expirement is pretty good

>>5133087
It IS objective fact. All humans are affected by the associations of the things they experience. To expose you for the faggot you are, let's just make it explicit: do the associations of things that YOU experience affect the way you value them? If yes, then you're in complete agreement with me. If no, then, exactly like I said, this argument comes down to you asserting that you're a special and unique snowflake. Of course you're too much of a coward to answer the question.

And you don't even know what the word 'straw man' means, idiot.
>you pay too much attention to other's
Strawman. I never stated the amount of attention that I pay to others opinions nor even what the ideal amount is - I merely observed the objective fact that all people pay SOME amount of attention to other opinions. Yes, including you, poseur.
>"this game is diminished if normalfags like it" is simply a teen-tier elitist mentality
Strawman, again. I said nothing about elitism or 'normalfags'. For like the 50th time, I just observed that the associations of the game affect its enjoyment. For some people - but not for me - that may mean that their game enjoyment is diminished by normalfags. I don't play the games mentioned here at all, I was just making an observation and you're reading shit into my statement that isn't there because you feel attacked because you're a weak bitch.
>Either appreciate the game on it's own merits or admit to yourself you care less about the game than you do about having a symbol of obscurity.
Complete strawman, as I was EXPLICITLY AFFIRMING that people do not care exclusively about the game. Thus, there is nothing to 'admit', moron. You're just proving over again that you're too fucking stupid to understand what's being discussed here.

>>5132462
Did this happen recently or something? I remember searching for English translations for Garage and getting nothing

>>5133223
The walkthrough was a while back, don't know exactly when the full translated game was releases but it was not too long ago, some anon posted a link to it in another weird/obscure game thread a while back

I like eastern mind

>>5133254
I like the lost souls of tong-nou

>>5133164
You are such a faggot. We're discussing
>It doesn't change the game, but it does change the experience of playing it.
And you state
>You would enjoy it less just by knowing this and there is nothing you can do about it. Imagine, on the other hand, that the only other people who enjoyed that thing were strong, intelligent, beautiful ubermen. You would enjoy it more just by knowing this and there is nothing you can do about it.
Super objective there anon. Rationalize all you want in that comfy armchair.
>strawman
Nothing i've said is a strawman given the discussion and some basic inference of the thread's context you massive mongloid. We're not talking about the butterfly effect here or geological timescales. Are you that autistic? If anything
>including you, poseur
is a strawman since you've painted me with your own idiotic projections as some emo snowflake and are basing a fucking retarded argument around it.

>>5133309
Gosh, I'm so shocked you that you ignored the question! Who could have predicted this. Let's try again: do the associations of things that YOU experience affect the way that YOU value them? A simple yes or no will do :)

Will he ignore this question that annihilates his contradictions a second time? Find out, in the next exciting reply from Avoidant Cocksmoker!

>>5133324
>maybe if i steer the conversation with an overly broad and irrelevant question people will forget how much of a massive faggot i am
sure thing you >avoidant cocksmoker

>>5133329
>I know you are but what am I
Witty and mature! Let's try a third time: do the associations of things that YOU experience affect the way that YOU value them? A simple yes or no will do. I truly wonder why you would avoid a direct question! You're clearly both intellectually honest and mentally capable, so what could the explanation be?

Remember when Five Nights At Freddy's was shown off for the first time and it seemed like an interesting game with potential that managed to nail the pre-rendered CG look of the 90's?
Remember how even though the final game turned out a pretty shit tower-defense-jumpscare-simulator, it was gobbled up by every retard on the internet, the author became a colossal faggot, churned out 8 more games in a few years, got into petty "canon" wars with that Game Theory faggot and the fans?
I don't want that to happen to cool obscure games. I know it will never reach that particular level of cancer, but even a tiny bit of cancer is bad enough. Letting obscure games remain obscure and only accessible to those with enough dedication and interest in them is better than pushing them into mainstream attention and risk seeing them become the next internet cancer fad

>>5129131
garage is untranslated and largely unplayable without knowing japanese. iirc some of the director files are still locked (unlike chu-teng) so a full translation is unlikely anytime soon

>>5133492
A translation for garage was posted last weird/obscure games thread. Even if it's not finished I know for a fact a translation for garage is underway

>>5133492
ayy lmao

>>5133358
Your argument only works with new games. An old 90s game isn’t going to get a sequel almost 30 years later because of youtubers. If their videos and theories bother you, then don’t watch it. No one is forcing you to participate in a cancerous fandom. You act as if a game getting popular forces you to read shit posts, watch cringey videos, or even interact with these people. It doesn’t. An obscure game becoming popular isn’t going to flood /vr/ with a bunch of 10 year olds. The anon talking about elitism needs to pull his head out of his ass. If other people liking something you do bothers you, then you never truly liked the game to begin with.

Every time I close my eyes

What a shitty thread

>>5134283
Not that anon, but:

>An old 90s game isn’t going to get a sequel almost 30 years later because of youtubers.
Do you really believe it couldn't happen? In an age where Kickstarters from developers of classic franchises are almost always massive successes, you'd be foolish not to.

>If their videos and theories bother you, then don’t watch it. No one is forcing you to participate in a cancerous fandom.
You may not be "forced to participate" (I'm not entirely sure what this means), but it will make it impossible to have a legitimate discussion about the game in any capacity. Even if you're not willing to contribute to the conversation, if you choose to look up the game on Youtube or social media you'll be aware of all the nonsense, and you'll always have it in the back of your mind (if you say you won't, you're lying for internet cred).

>An obscure game becoming popular isn’t going to flood /vr/ with a bunch of 10 year olds.
Off the top of my head, it happened with:
>Earthbound (though it happened before /vr/ existed, it still applies)
>LSD
>PC88/98 games

I'm sure there are more examples, but you get the picture.

>If other people liking something you do bothers you, then you never truly liked the game to begin with.
BS. I liked "the game" (speaking generally here) enough to not want it to become impossible to learn and speak legitimately about it.

This post does an excellent job of proving my point:
>>5134630
This guy didn't like the thread (I'm assuming he's taking an anti-elitism stance), but he was still made aware of it and was displeased by it enough to voice his displeasure. That's what I'm talking about.

>>5134653
>pc88/98 games
Not invested in this dumbass argument, genuinely interested in which ones

>>5134630
I know, I just wanted to talk about games I really like, not have an argument about ""normies"" ruining them

Can we get back on track guys? What obscure games do you like? I like The Cerebus Experiment, I consider it a lost might & magic game

>>5134653
> classic franchise
We specifically talking about obscure games here, I don’t think a game from a must likely defunct studio or dead creator will spawn a sequel no matter how many youtubers cover it. Even if it did get a sequel that doesn’t impact your ability to enjoy the original.

> if you choose to look up the game on YouTube or social media
Again, we’re are talking about generally unknown games. Hell, people on this board love Mario and sonic, despite how austitic some of the fab work is, no one cares when they are playing the games. If you know someone who acts like retard because of a game are you going to stop playing it? You act is if everyone is you and will treat the game in the same manner. YouTube and social media might increase the amount of cancer, but if you think that the community for obscure games is only populated by mature individuals, then you’re an idiot.

>impossible to learn and speak about it
Don’t go to YouTube or reddit. They are plenty of forums where moderators will keep things in check, and again if your enjoyment of the game hinges on discussion rather then playing it, then I don’t know what to tell except that my previous point still stands. You don’t like the game you like the mystery around the game.

Also, don’t act so entitled. If it wasn’t for someone bringing these games to light then you would have never have known about them. Your acting selfish, if people want to treat the game differently who are you to oppose that.

>We specifically talking about obscure games here
But is it really THAT far a stretch to say an obscure game could be revived as well? Are you honestly telling me that, if Osamu Sato made a video where he wore a hat with the American flag and asked for funding to get a new game developed tomorrow, it wouldn't be a rousing success? If you do, then I guess we're of two different minds.

There must be at least one example of this happening already with an obscure property, but I'm not up to date on "the scene" so I'll let someone else get angry about that for me.

>Even if it did get a sequel that doesn’t impact your ability to enjoy the original.
I disagree entirely. If you played, say, Chu-Teng, with the knowledge that it had a horrible sequel funded by Americans 20+ years later filled with pander-y callbacks, references, and shout-outs, it wouldn't affect your perception AT ALL? If you say "No", you're almost certainly lying, because you - and the game - don't exist in a vacuum.

>Again, we’re are talking about generally unknown games. Hell, people on this board love Mario and sonic
These two sentences contradict each other. Mario and Sonic are series that have characters on lunchboxes, and were purposefully pushed in foreign markets by advertisers in pop culture. Eastern Mind isn't.

>you think that the community for obscure games is only populated by mature individuals, then you’re an idiot.
Obviously there are going to always be idiots in any community, but elitism serves to minimize that number. I want the least amount of idiots possible.

>They are plenty of forums where moderators will keep things in check
Please provide as many examples as you possibly can. No, ResetEra/NeoGAF is not a valid example. HG101 isn't, either.

Continued...

>>5134825
>>5135009
>again if your enjoyment of the game hinges on discussion rather then playing it
I... never said that it did? I'm saying that it harms the environmental factors around the game, and, since nothing exists in a vacuum, can harm an individual's perception of it (or its sequels). If I liked Eastern Mind and it suddenly got popular, I wouldn't stop liking Eastern Mind - I just wouldn't tell people I did and wouldn't be interested in discussing it further.

>You don’t like the game you like the mystery around the game.
That's part of it, sure. As you say later in your post
>if people want to treat the game differently who are you to oppose that.
So, by your logic, is that not valid? At least I admit to being an elitist.

>Also, don’t act so entitled.
How droll.

> If it wasn’t for someone bringing these games to light then you would have never have known about them.
Very true, but I'm not a shitposter.

Continued...

>Your acting selfish, if people want to treat the game differently who are you to oppose that.
I'm not saying that people are wrong to enjoy the games they do, even if I don't like them. I'm saying that there are legitimate positives to keep unknown games unknown.

If there were a decent person who wanted to play, experience, and learn about the games without making a jackass of everyone involved in the process, I'd be more than happy to share it with them. But can you honestly say that's the case with the people who ask for obscure game recommendations? If so, I don't think I'll be convincing you otherwise.

>>5134717
YU-NO, and many others, I'm sure (not too familiar with the console), thanks to the rise of vaporwave and its ilk. If you're going to respond with an all-lowercase shitpost that doesn't add anything to the argument beyond a weak insult, don't bother.

>>5134720
>The Cerebus Experiment
That's the second time I've seen this game on this thread but I can't find it
Top stuff seems related to Mass Effect shit and the weird-ass game that I did find is called Cerberus Incident
Somebody help?

Dreamware
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvcx2KuxI-Y

>>5135014
I'll bother

How the fuck is YU-NO well known? Most I've seen is a HG101 post about it that's about it. None of the youtube videos I found had more than 4k views, No twitter posts and AFAIK it's barely talked about outside of HG101, /vr/, Neogaf and like 4 reddit posts

>>5135082
Meant to say Cerberus Incident, really sorry, I think you can tell why I mixed it up. Anyways, it has a certain early 2000's charm to it I love, on top of being a late M&M style RPG with a sci fi / horror twist to it

I really like Virtual Nightclub, a weird ass late 90's game that somehow got licenses from somewhat popular bands at the time to play like 10 second clips, a long with in game interviews with different sci fi and cyberpunk authors talking about THE FUTURE OF THE INFORMATION HIGHWAY

The game's meant to sort of be a "What if" scenario about a whole VR night club, a long with trippy visuals, tit ladies and more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jA1tjwnl_Y

I don't know if it belongs here as one popular youtuber covered it, as such there may be memes or creepypastas in the future. I suggest investing now before the kickstarter for the sequel starts

>>5135243
>I suggest investing now before the kickstarter for the sequel starts
This, gotta watch out before pewdiepie plays it

>>5135238
It's all good, anon. It seems pretty interesting. Visually, it reminds me of Worlds

>>5135258
Check it out, it's free and real damn short. It's honestly nothing amazing gameplay wise but it's brief enough to warrant a check out for just how weird it is

>>5135261
Will do. Thanks for the suggestion, anon

>>5135278
No problem anon, I hope your future is bright and that you'll find love and happiness

>>5135235
>How the fuck is YU-NO well known?
From a simple Google search, you can find multiple articles about it (specifically the remake, which Westerners are more likely to gravitate towards) from several contemporary gaming news sites, often with 50+ comments. Here are some examples:
https://gematsu.com/2018/03/yu-no-remake-coming-switch-pc
http://www.siliconera.com/2018/03/26/yu-no-remake-headed-nintendo-switch-pc/
https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/86shuu/yuno_remake_coming_to_switch_pc_gematsu/

For PC88/98 in general, just google "PC88" or "PC98" followed by the word "vaporwave", and you'll see what I mean.

>>5135243
>>5135253
I'll take these posts as concessions.

>>5135285
Ah yes, a few unknown gaming sites made a post about it, world popular

>>5135291
>>5135235
Also, no Twitter posts? Where are YOU looking?
https://twitter.com/search?q=yu-no&src=typd&lang=en

>>5135279

>>5135292
Ah yes, all those famous 'tubers retweeting their favorite game

>>5135291
Gematsu and Siliconera are sort-of big, now that the old monopolies like IGN, Gamespot, Destructoid, etc outed themselves to be Kotaku-tier trash
I think most people get their gaming news from their favorite e-celebs or just watch all the big announcements at e3 and the like, though but still

>>5135303
Nice goalpost shift! Either way, I'd imagine you're the kind of dumbbell I've been describing all along, so.

>>5135306
>Nice goalpost shift!
No problem, you want another?

>>5135313
Listen, I know you're trolling me at this point, but I'm going to use you as an example because I'm still holding on to the faintest possibility that there might be someone with the slightest bit of integrity reading through this thread.

This is the kind of person that I don't want knowing about these obscure games. A shitposting, trolling moron who has nothing substantial to add to the discussion and, when confronted with plain facts, uses simple diversionary tactics to draw attention away from his lacklustre arguments in favour of looking cool on the Internet. This is the kind of person being elitist would filter out.

Is that enough, anonymous person scrolling down this thread? Are you convinced, yet? I've shown you an example. I've provided evidence to my hypothesis. If you still don't agree with me after this, I have nothing more to tell you.

>>5133869
>a translation for garage is underway
yeah keep believing that. every thread since 2014 has had someone say that and then realize they are in over their head

>>5135350
>This is the kind of person being elitist would filter out.
well maybe not, since youre elitist but he still shitposted you

>>5135389
You, too.

>>5135350
Here's the thing anon

You don't want people knowing about your scred games. But they will. They always will. And you'll have to live with that

>>5135415

As I said here: >>5132560
I know, and I've accepted that. I'm just lamenting the fact that it would be easy, so, so easy, for morons not to ruin things. All it would take is for people like you to DO NOTHING.

But you won't, and I can't imagine why. I theorize that it's because you want to look cool on the Internet and, in lieu of any wit, personality, or intellect, leech off of pieces of media in the hopes that equally stupid people will somehow come to associate its values with you when you introduce them to it, thereby achieving some semblance of companionship or respect you lack in real life.

But surely that's too cynical an outlook to be true.

RIGHT???????????

>>5135443
>But you won't, and I can't imagine why. I theorize that it's because you want to look cool on the Internet and, in lieu of any wit, personality, or intellect, leech off of pieces of media in the hopes that equally stupid people will somehow come to associate its values with you
Oh damn, you found me out. Good job

Sweet baby jesus the amount of salt in this thread is truly legendary

>>5126572
dez is as legit as it gets, a shame he disappeared

>>5135443
>"But you won't, and I can't imagine why."
>anon can't imagine sharing things with others because they are cool and wanting to spread love and coolness
sad anon

>>5135484
I only want to spread love and coolness to people who deserve it. If you spread love and coolness to everyone, all the time, love and coolness becomes tedium and detritus.

Obscure games off the top of my head
U.F.O day in the life
L.O.L lack of love
Mad Panic coaster
Mizzurna Falls
Garage Bad Dream Adventure
Mostly old Japanese stuff they were more likely to do way out of the box stuff. Western stuff doesn't seem to get too bizarre. There's a couple weird western games I know of but they're beyond the scope of /vr/'s timeframe. Then again even lack of love is 2000 but fuck it it's a thread for obscure things these threads only show up once a year if at all.

>>5135487
To you, who constitutes someone that "Deserves it"?

>>5123862
>>5132560
>>5134653
>>5135009
>>5135285
>>5135350
>posts kid cartoon reaction images
of course

>>5135512
Bad day on the midway is weird

>>5135512
>weird western games
Bad day on the midway
Armed & Delirious
Escape from hell
Nyet 3
Helious
Arcade America
Construction bob
Cerebus incident

I own the C64 version of this still. Don't have a functioning C64 or the tapedeck, but still nice to have.
What a weird thing. Some artfag game with a pretty nice OST you're supposed to synch with the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bxNqBw79FA

I liek this gaem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G75Y3Uuok0

>>5135613
and it's sequel was a mess. Still a fun OST, but hotdamn it's somehow worse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm1l2l_xNmA

>>5135598
all very big gay

OH MAHRIO

>>5125598
Same. Literally nowhere seems to have the rom.

I always love these threads, cool seeing odd and peculiar games from other anons.

I mentioned it last time we had a weird games threads but it seemed pretty popular so I'll mention here too.

Aum Shinrikyo, a Japanese cult and terrorist organization, made a game. They were a Japanese cult active during the 80's and 90's and actually gained quite a large following in Japan with thousands of members. It was only after their first known terrorist attack in 1995, where they used sarin gas to attack the Tokyo subway system, that they were declared a thread. The attack ended up killing 13 people, injuring 58, and affecting around 1,000. Only this year was the cult's leader, Shoko Asahara, was executed.


On the topic of the game though. "Kamikuishiki-mura Monogatari" for the PC-88 is a sort of propaganda piece that acts as a sort of life and management sim with the player managing aspects of the cult. Weirdly enough the cult actually was known to attract a number of "otakus", this is probably why such things like a video game and even a anime were used by them to push their agenda.

Gameplay below, probably not something actually worth playing but interesting regardless. It's weird to think a cult that killed innocent people, and who knows how many of its own members, made a real game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv29qBuflrk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJO0LvepSWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YDMepD9VIo

>>5135725
please stop talking about the game before youtubers pick up on it. It's bad enough having shit like LSD be popular, having literal cult propoganda be the next pewdiepie bait is nightmarish

>>5135761
I can't imagine something like this really "catching on". Even with knowledge of Japanese the game seems really obtuse and probably would require serious effort to actually learn to play.

>>5135443
What if I told you that I think people like you ruined the integrity of these games?
You don't speak Japanese, so you've relied on someone translating it, which means it had to have been at least somewhat popular enough for someone to bother. You jumped on the bandwagon. You did nothing but wait for someone else to bring it to your attention, and you're mad that other people are doing the same?
I live in Japan, I'm part of a group that discusses games you will likely never hear about. I have every reason to be elitist, but I'm not. Why? Because I want people to discover things. There is so much forgotten art in the world, and it does nobody any good to keep these things hidden, least of all the artist who put their work out into the world for people to enjoy. There, is that the response from the random scrolling anon you wanted?

>>5135725
Pretty sure this isn't a real game.

>>5135803
What do you mean? If you mean it as in it being fake then you're wrong, it is definitely a game you can go download and play yourself. If you mean "I don't think this counts as a game" then that's debatable, still, I would say it counts more then something like a VN.

For people interested in text adventure games and/or the Lovecraft mythos I suggest checking out Anchorhead.

Originally published in 1998 the author has updated it over the years and released some newer and more detailed versions. The game puts you in the role of a nameless woman whose husband has inherited a mansion in Maine and of course, weird shit goes down.

Interesting little text game I recommend for anyone whose a fan of stuff like Zork.

>>5135793
What's this? Facts? Logic? IN THE TRASH IT GOES

>>5135816
Slouching torwards Bedlam is also rad

>>5135725
Tao (NES) is arguably Yiguandao propaganda.

>>5135531
Defined it here: >>5125959

>>5135541
Here's a picture of a pig wearing a hat for variety's sake.

>>5135793
>>What if I told you that I think people like you ruined the integrity of these games?
Then it looks like we've got an argument!

>You don't speak Japanese, so you've relied on someone translating it,
You're not wrong.

>which means it had to have been at least somewhat popular enough for someone to bother.
Utterly incorrect. Eastern Mind wasn't "popular enough" to be translated, for example, and yet it DID get a translation - an official one, too!

>You did nothing but wait for someone else to bring it to your attention, and you're mad that other people are doing the same?
Again, I'm not a shitposting moron who posts one-line sentences in all lowercase to look cool on the Internet. If every single person who were interested in these games were a smart, level-head individual, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

>I live in Japan, I'm part of a group that discusses games you will likely never hear about.
Assuming you're not just lying (which is a pretty big assumption, but ultimately irrelevant to my argument), I don't really give two shits what you and your idiot Japanese friends think. Japan's weird fucking psychological obsession with validation from American people is at the root of this problem.

>I want people to discover things. There is so much forgotten art in the world, and it does nobody any good to keep these things hidden
Where are you getting this idea that closing off obscure games from the masses will result in them being forgotten? LSD wasn't. Eastern Mind wasn't. Garage wasn't.

>There, is that the response from the random scrolling anon you wanted?
NO.

>>5135861
Where are all the facts? I can't see any, and I've disproved the "logic" presented with examples.

>>5136421
>"I'm not a shitposting moron who posts one-line sentences in all lowercase to look cool on the Internet."
>I write multi-line shitposts which validates me as worthy of being told about these games.
hahahhahahhaa
breathtaking

>>5136442
Case in point.

>>5135793
>You don't speak Japanese, so you've relied on someone translating it
>implying any of these weird Sato-like games are translated
pffft

>>5136447
Point in case

>>5136184
Mind explaining?

>>5137316
Yes, I do mind

>>5138550
this

über bümp

>>5136483
I mean, garage is

>All these stupid assholes who can't find the GARAGE translation
Fine, I'll spoonfeed you
https://www.old-games.ru/game/download/6379.html

>>5137316
Search "Yiguandao"

http://borgdlorhc.proboards.com/thread/189/tao?page=2

What happened to the guy who was hiding Labyrinthe? The guy with the secret trove? Did he kill himself yet? Or is he on a quest to find and hide every game?

>>5140712
nigerundayo?

>>5140502
>>5140518
are you people retarded or confused? Garage is not translated and i don't know if you are trying to be funny but thats a link to chu-teng

>>5140843
see
>>5125546
he's busy with some retarded crypto startup but he still has a ton of unobtainable JP PC games

>>5143636
He has every right to not upload it, especially after he had shit STOLEN from him

>>5136421
>Japan's weird fucking psychological obsession with validation from American people is at the root of this problem.
since fucking when? the rest of the world hates america

>>5136421
please get off the computer and go outside

>>5135725
>>5136184
any more actual "cult" classics

>>5144054
No arguments, then?

>>5144050
Japan sure doesn't...

>>5144190
>>5144202
i'm not the anon you were arguing with, asshat. also i was serious about the going outside thing, for real try it sometime. maybe if you did we could actually discuss the games this thread was made for instead of having our paths blocked by Mr. Obscure Game Einstein

>>5143645
Oh my god STOLEN

HE DOESNT HAVE THOSE DIGITALLY UPLOADED GAMES ANYMORE HOLY FUCK!!!! THEY GOT STOLEN!!! MURDER!!! HELP!!! POLICE!!!

bump

>>5146479
This but unironically