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Play the SFC remake in Japanese. Don't taint DQ with translations.

>>5098309
But I can't read moon, Anon-kun.

>>5098312
Then play the translations. Ignore that other nerd, he doesn't speak Japanese either.

>>5098312
Don't worry, neither can he.

Play fan translation on the SFC then shitpost about only playing the Japanese version just like the rest of them.

>>5098312
Nothing you can't fix.

>>5098318
You first.

>>5098331
I've learned Japanese and played DQ1+2 on the SFC. I even played the Famicom version of 1 but I wouldn't recommend it unless your main interest is the historical significance.

>>5098316
Hahaha

>>5098339
>I've learned Japanese

>>5098342
There are millions who learned Japanese. It's not some mystic language ordinary humans will never comprehend.
DQ in particular is entry level, you can get there in no time.

>>5098347
>It's not some mystic language ordinary humans will never comprehend.
And yet you haven't managed it.

>>5098350
What kind of new retardation is this? If you ever spend a month on this board you should realize there are tons of users that understand Japanese.

>>5098356
>If you ever spend a month on this board you should realize there are tons of users that understand Japanese.
Yes, but you're not one of them. Trying to make learning a new language sound trivial is also one of the saddest tools in the bullshitters arsenal. We've heard it before, especially in DQ threads.

>>5098360
Better than claiming something is impossible without ever actually trying it.

>>5098365
>Better than claiming something is impossible without ever actually trying it.
Yeah, good thing no one actually did that, though.

>>5098368
Learning new languages is trivial unlike >>5098360 claimed. Just watch a lot of media that interests you, learn common vocabulary and grammar and then proceed playing games and reading comics.
It's so easy, a child can do it.

>>5098372
>It's so easy, a child can do it.
So when are you going to get around to it? Instead of replying like an embarrassed retard after getting called out for lying on a Chinese tapestry weaving board?

>>5098373
Is there any way I can shut you up? You wouldn't believe me if I posted a screenshot anyway.

>>5098382
>You wouldn't believe me if I posted a screenshot anyway.
You're right, as you're a chronic bullshitter and the only reason you're even still replying is out of sheer embarrassment over getting called out for it.

>>5098296
Why are the Famicom versions of the first 4 Dragon quest games so ignored by Romhackers?

>>5098389
SFC versions are better for 1-3 and 4 is garbage

>>5098384
What if I transscribed Horii's letter for you?

dômo, horii desu.
kono tabi syôdai no famicom ban Dragonquest ni tyôsen sitemoraeru tonokoto, totemo uresiku omoimasu.
famicom ban Dragonquest ha,
tôzi actiongame ga syûryû datta zidai ni roleplaying game no omosirosa wo sitemoraouto,
tonikaku sukunai yôryo no naka, ironna kufu wo site, monogatari wo taiken si,
zibun ga tuyokunatteiku yorokobi, bôken suru tanosimi wo tumekomimasita.
sosite, sore ga user no minasan ni ukeirerareta toki no yorokobi ha hitosio desita.
Arino-san ga play suru yôsu wo mireba, miru hito no naha ni tôzi no omoide ga yomigaettekuru no de ha nai desyôka.

>>5098397
>What if I transscribed Horii's letter for you?
I still wouldn't care. You're not doing anything a machine translator can't already do. You're also not fooling anyone. You can keep feeding me (You)'s like an embarrassed lying retard, though.

I prefer 1 on GBC to SNES.

>>5098403
What's it like being blind and deaf?

>>5098406
>Blind
I prefer 2 and 3 on SFC, but 1's redone sprites are ugly.

>Deaf
https://youtu.be/sVa-JUshNb0
https://youtu.be/B9DNwWwu8r4

The SNES arrangements sound like poor attempts to recreate the orchestral version. The GBC is closer to the Famicom arrangements while fixing the tempo problems that version had.

Sorry my taste triggers you.

>>5098421
>being Muslim

Don't you have some goats to go fuck?

>>5098296
As you can tell from the thread, OP, getting into DQ is all about not playing the games but still being as autistic as possible about remakes and versions.

>>5098421
They're both nice but the SuFami one is way better.

>>5098426
>Muslim
Fucking what?

>>5098439
I agree for 2 and 3, but not 1.

>>5098339
Get a load of this fag

>>5098391
>4 is garbage.
GET STUFFED IN THE CRUST!

>>5098440
Don't bother responding to the heretic.

>>5098448
Ok then, fine. I won't bother responding to the brainwashed thoughtslaves beyond this post.

>>5098432
OP here. I think I'll play the original Dragon Warrior I-IV on the NES to get to know how people first got into the series here in the east. I checked and there's not that many differences between the famicom and the nes versions, besides the first games, with happen to have more limitations and the nes version with some improvement.

>>5098729
Aside from completely different balancing, censorship, arbitrary name changes and other localization fuckery.
If you want to see the game as people originally experienced it you need the direction input and revival spell.

Six months of studying Japanese and you'll realize it's not that insane, within 3 years you'll be solid. Who's the mad autist haunting this thread?

>>5098739
That sounds like a deal breaker. Are there translation patches for the famicom version of I-IV?

not OP but I asked myself the same question and settled on

>DQ1-3 on SNES
>DQ4-6 on DS
>DQ7 on PSX
>DQ8 on PSX2
>DQ9 on DS

as far as I can tell that seems to be consensus for the most part, except DQ7 in which case I made a deliberate choice

>>5098296
Shitty idea. Start with either 3 or 5. The first game is peculiar stuf with some interesting ideas, while 2 is by far the worst in the series (although not necessarily bad). More importantly, you will not get far if you start with the worst.
The first three games do form a loose trilogy of sorts, formally, but it can be experienced in any order, and connections have practically no effect whatever either way.

Somebody knows where i can get the Dragon Warrior I & II Reprise for SNES already patched in English? i can't find anywhere in the interwebs, i cannot even find the original japanese rom!

>>5099875
DQ 9 and 10 are to be skipped for being online-centric trash.

>>5099882
The fuck kind of name is "Dragon Warrior I & II Reprise"? Where did you even get this? Google "Dragon Quest snes" and you'll get the rom on first fucking hit.

>>5099885
i got confused, i want the japanese version translated to english like the guys was saying above.

>>5099889
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/337/

>>5098318
He could spend his time learning a language with more real world application.

FF IV , V
or
DQ III, V

not sure which to try next :((((((((((

>>5099904
What is more of a real world application than playing retro games, something he most likely is already doing?

>>5099906
Ordering croissants hon hon hon

>>5099903
thanks bro , now i see that all version come neatly packed together !

>>5099905
FFIV and DQV

You fucking autismos, OP just wanted a suggestion on where to start. Not for you faggots to have a stroking contest on who is the biggest Japanese cuck.

I would suggest starting at 3 if I were you OP. it's more beginner friendly and will let you know if you like the DQ series or not.

I, II and III on the GBC, the translated version of II on the Super Famicom has a game breaking bug that would make you only keep the Hero and the Princess, the translated version of III will delete your save file if you save in the dharma temple.
IV though it has a DS remake, it sucks mostly because of the accents and the fact that they removed the party chat, the best way to play it is either learn Japanese and play the PS version or eat the accents on the mobile version where they restored the party chat.
V this one is up to you, all version of it are translated, i always go for the original or the PS2 remake since i don't really like Deborah.
VI, DS or mobile, the Super Famicom version has better graphics and more monsters but either you learn Japanese or play the unfinished translation full of bugs.
VII, the PS and 3DS versions are quite different from each other but i still prefer the PS version, play it on an emulator that allows fast forward.
VIII, again up to you PS2 version has better graphics but the 3DS version has way more content.
IX, DS is the only way to play it, but a mobile version will come out next year.
X, PC, Wii, WiiU etc Japan only, producer of the games wants to bring the game to the west but offline, which will make the game a DQIX on steroids.
XI, the PS4 version has better graphics but i hear that the 3DS version has more content, haven't played either, but the chinaman from 2chan where saying that the Switch version will have more content and the ability to change to 2D like in the 3DS version while having almost the same graphical power of the PS4 version.

>>5100006
>the Super Famicom version has better graphics and more monsters
It's also slower and has interface and AI issues. Fuck the AI being incapable of using items, not being able to use items directly from your bag, and having to deal with enemy animations this game introduced and the attack animations taking forever compared to V and the I+II remake's.

>>5100006
>vii on psx
this version seems like a nightmare to get through...why do you prefer it? also looks worse

>>5098397

>>5098729
>here in the east
>dragon warrior

>>5100025
I couldn't tell you, to tell the truth.

>>5098296
>I wanna get into Grind Fest

Ah, I see you don't value your personal free time at all.

>>5099240
Someone is working on something similar http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=26951.0

>>5098316
Based

>>5100025
>this version seems like a nightmare to get through

I am currently playing it blind for the first time

i picked specifically because of the graphics, I find them quite charming and can't stand the style of the DS version

in addition, it provides a more complete experience because no content has been cut
there are less encounters. while DS version makes encounters visible on the map and therefore avoidable in theory, you will still end up getting bogged down in combat more often cause you cant avoid them in the corridors.
the benefit of 'ease of life features' in the DS version is overstated as well. having a map is literally no more than a cheap gimmick. annoyingly, the map is probably necessary in the DS version because the camera is so far zoomed in and you are playing on a tiny screen.
the alert for the shards might be midly useful but really I am 40 hrs in and I never had trouble finding shards if you explore halfway throughly. there is always a walkthrough if you have trouble.


the only two reason i can see to pick DS over psx version if either you like the graphics better (which some people apparently do, for some unfoathomable reason) or if you wanna 'rush' through the game and who the fuck would wanna rush through a wholesome DQ game

if you play on a psx emulator you can use fast forward if you are so inclined (for grinding maybe, i dont use it), you can play on the big screen, you can zoom out, save anywhere .. psx version is superior to my mind

For the love of god do not play the DS versions with their astonishingly bad translations.

>>5098397
Congrats, you managed to get 5 words right before making a stupid mistake. Now practice more before you try to brag about your weak ability in Japanese

>>5100163
The only reason to play 7 3DS is the same as 8's 3DS version: the portability and minor additional content. If you're playing 7 and 8 for the first time there's no reason not to play the original versions.

>>5101337
If you don't include mistakes people like >>5098401 wouldn't believe it.

>>5099875
I personally go with DQ4 on NES but I really fucking hate the localization of 4 on DS. DQ7 on 3DS I feel is better but I honestly don't really remember much about the PSX version since I played it back in 2000.

>>5098296
DQ2 is a mess from top to bottom. Sadly to really get the full impact of DQ3 you need to play it.

http://shmuplations.com/dragonquestiii/

>>5101986
DQ2 is the only one I ever say you should just reference a guide for.

>>5102037
It's just not a fun game since there's just a lot of just hitting search on every square to find the crests. Plus the enemies are just annoyingly powerful and not in a challenging way just grind until you can win.

If you are planning on playing the NES version of the games (I enjoy the look and sound personally plus 3 and 4 is pretty playable with not a whole lot of grinding plus DQ4 has a nice interface for a NES JRPG) I would say have a map open since you can find yourself wondering around a good bit when you get the boat.

>>5101986
>http://shmuplations.com/dragonquestiii/

I've seen the DQ-II interview, but this confirms everything else I was suspecting. I just completed DW-II all the way through for the first time. Now that I have had the experience of seeing where all problems are, I will move on to DW-III. It wasn't a good time, but it's been something I've been wanting to complete for a long time.

>>5102037
They were giving out guides for this game as well, and also maps. There's no reason not to. Probably in the same sense that Phantasy Star II came with a guide and sucks complete shit also.

>>5102037
There's no reason not to. They were giving out maps and guides from the very start. They knew what was up.

>>5102179
To be fair every Dragon Warrior game on NES came with a map and guide. They really tired to hook us on JRPG but no one was having it at the time. A little too little too late sadly since by 1989 and 1990 people expected more than DQ1 and 2

so are DQ1-3 even worth playing today or are they too archaic?

>>5102202
I grew up with DQ1 as it was my first jrpg ever, so I'm very fond of it. But it's very basic compared to most jrpgs nowadays and it's mainly just grinding until you are good enough to grab a few items and get to the final boss. I still think it's fun, but I know that it hasn't aged well.

DQII is fucking terrible. While the game has more objectives than the first, it felt more grindey than the first due to the amount of things you can do, and as a result, the game has shit pacing. It also has some ridiculous spikes in difficulty and the worst enemy attack in any game ever - some end-game random enemy that can wipe your entire party in one hit at any time it wants to. I hear the SFC and GBC remakes improve on this game, but I'm not for sure myself. I do know that DQI cuts down on the grinding that you need to do in both versions. I would try those versions if that will be a problem for you.

I just played DQIII (and IV) for the first time last year on the NES. DQIII is legitimately one of the greatest games I have ever played. I highly recommend that one.

>>5102202
Only DQ3 is worth playing.

>>5098316
How the fuck do you upload a translation into a Famicom cart?
You stupid cunts there's no English version of the game, either he learns Japanese which should only take about 2 years of regular study or he plays the NES or Game Boy Colour version

>>5099882
Super Potato has the games for like $40 CIB, just have them ship it to a Japanese friend and he can ship it to you, that's what I do get them to send the games to my friend and she ships it to me

>>5102231
>How the fuck do you upload a translation into a Famicom cart?

wut

>>5102237
The game only released in Japan in Japanese, there is no English version of the game

>>5102240
how about using a patched rom in an emulator?

>there is no English version of the game
I guess we're just all victims of a mass fever dream, then.

>>5102249
Sorry I'm not a casual redditor, original hardware only for me I'm not some emunigger
>>5102256
There was on NES and Game Boy Color

>>5102263
But RetardAnon, I can play that on original hardware. What kind of silly meme are you going to spout in reply to that?

>>5098312
Don't worry, don't pay attention to the weebs who think they're superior because they're learning moon just for nerd purposes.
Translations exists for a reason.
Just don't feed the troll.

>>5102272
The game was never released in English, Enix only published the game in Japan and the only language it's playable in is Japanese.
You bought a fake copy of the game if it's in English

>>5102319
Flashcarts you retard

>>5102319
Or he could mean a flashcart.

>>5102341
>>5102342
When did Enix start publishing flash carts?
Just accept it you bought a bootleg version of the game mate

>>5102346
What's it like living with crippling autism?

>>5102349
I don't have autism, you casual niggers are the autists, your bootleg games don't count they're not officially released by Enix

>>5102346
>bootleg version of the game
A bootleg version of all the games.

>>5102354
So stick to Reddit with the other casual fags

>>5102346
>thinks I have no idea I wasn't putting a fan translation on my own flash cart and that it's the only thing I have on my SD2SNES.

Jesus Christ, you are autistic.

>>5102346
I really don't care if the translation is official or not. The translations are better than anything Enix would have officially put out in the 90's anyway so who gives a shit?

>>5102350
Don't count for what?

>>5102407
>voluntarily plays a bootleg game
That's gonna be a yikes from me
>>5102420
Doesn't matter, it's not an official release only casual losers play bootlegs, get the original game ideally CIB
>>5102424
Imagine if someone said I have the Mona Lisa and it was some stupid poster from Walmart. It's the same thing

Would you stupid fucks stop giving the troll attention? Jesus christ it's as bad as /v/ in this thread right now.

>>5102556
I don't troll mate, sorry you casual emunigger redditors think your bootleg carts and games are legit, unless it was officially licensed and published on the console then it's not a real game it's a bootleg

>>5102179
>>5102191
Only for the US release because they thought their customers were retarded.

>have a comfy DQ thread
>sperglord ruins it within less than a hundred posts

I would love Dragon Quest 3 SNES if the personality system wasn't so ass.

>>5098296
What ever you do, don't start with IV. The game pissed me off so much with it's constant character switching. By the time I assembled the full party, I was too burned out and quit.

>>5098296
the NES DQ1 is a better version in all but maybe censorship and faux ye olde engleeshe translation they lifted from Ultima. extra sprites, some streamlining and most importantly, a save point to replace the password makes it an improvement over the original rather.

The remakes kinda makes it sort of a bland rendition albeit much improved version of the originals since I•II is based on DQ5's engine (III's was far better since it was based on VI's engine). I'd also recommend the GBC versions since they basically upscaled NES experiences with better sprites and more layered music

Was there ever an explanation why DQIV was never remade on the SFC? It seems odd that I + II, III, and V are on it, but not IV.

>>5103685
it did had a JP-only remake for the Playstation instead

>>5103685
Console was already dead by the time 3 and 6 came out and V is not a remake.

>>5103594
I actually love how DQ 4 handles the party system. You get to play out each characters story and their reason to find the hero/heroine. Gave me more of a reason to care about them than say FF6 which just kept throwing characters at you with hardly any real story to them. Just wish the DS localization wasn't completely fucked.

>>5103594
4 was my first and its now my favorite so bug off

good, accha

>>5098397
>he took the bait

Toriyama draws the cutest girls ever

anybody knows an easy way to download the DQ4 version for android for free?

I'm gonna play with a gamepad, i dont wanna miss out on the party talk, it gives the characters so much personality

>>5100006
When I played DQIII on the GB with one character, after a battle in that underground board game for some reason the game gave me so much experience I reached level 100. It made the random encounters more tolerable.

>>5102202
Depends on whether you play the remakes or not. DQII is not that bad if you play the GB remake. It is a good proto-DQIII.

>>5105583
>DQII is not that bad if you play the GB remake

what about the SNES remake?

>>5105583
GBC isn't bad but I just don't like how zoom in the game is. Makes wondering around feel off. I get they did it because of the scene size but SNES is the way to go.
>>5105585
GBC does add some new things like a post dungeon but SNES is the version to play of 1-3 personally.

>>5098296
That sword design is so cool looking.

>>5105445
Except they all have the same face.

>>5106029
Akira Toriyama is one of those rock stars that had insane talent back in the 80's but had one massively successful album and has been just redoing it for 30 years. I still say his monster design is one of the best in all of video games.

>>5098397
I believe you, anon.

>>5106056
Yeah, Toriyama is really good at drawing monsters, dragons, aliens and stuff, but his humans characters basically are the same characters with different proportions.

>>5106056
>>5107054
I dunno, even though his characters do suffer from sameface which let's be real here a lot of Japanese artists' characters do as well, even Miyazaki I do like his humans designs, they're cool looking

>>5099903
That translation is fucked because 2 isn't playable to completion. The only options for playing 2 in English are the original NES version, the GBC remake, or the mobile remake.

>>5107165
>2 isn't playable to completion
It's nice that you're informing people about the game breaking bugs in the translation of 2, but you don't have to outright lie and it can't be completed.
Only if you're unlucky is it not playable to completion. I've played the game to completion several times without getting hit by one of the game breaking bugs, before I even knew they existed.

>>5107054
There's tons of different looking human characters around Dr. Slumps and early Dragon Ball and they are all recognizable to some degree. The guy has (or at least had) talent he just kind of quit. Don't really blame him with how insane Dragon Ball and Dragon Quest did for him.

>>5100137
That's a nice effort and all but I still wish we got a straight translation of the famicom games. God damn it, why does Toriyama's stuff always get butchered by censorship? It comes down to childish shit like people smoking cigarettes, boobies and mild language. I guess satanic panic moms can't handle something that spicy.

>>5098296
go for gbc or mobile, snes has glitches on 2

>>5098296
I'm also going through the whole series. I started with 3 because I read that 1 and 2 were pretty antiquated.

I played 3 on GBC, 4 on DS, 5 on DS, and currently 6 on DS.

They were all great on those systems. I'm really torn between 3DS and original systems for the next 2 though. I think I will play VIII on PS2 but VII seems to have some reason to be played on 3DS.

>>5108607
>Playing 3 before 1
Anon..

>>5102202
3 was fun to me. I just recently played it and it was my first DQ ever. Just don't get too hung up on the mini medals because in 3 they have you autistically clicking search on every tile to find invisible shit that there is absolutely no indication of. Luckily that never interferes with the main plot. That got remedied for 4 and 5 on the DS by making it sparkle.

>>5108625
Sorry man. I'd like to think I have a high tolerance for old shit since my first game was Zelda 1 for the NES but I draw the line at having to go into menus to open doors and search every tile on the chance that some important completely invisible item might be on some random nonsense tile.

>>5108656
You can just use the thief class, 3 is one of the easiest to have all the medals

Dragon Warrior 1 was the 2nd game I ever played. Being a wee little baby and playing that shit was like having my mind blown. Back in the day, you could actually use your imagination while playing video games. I think something younger kids are missing out on, nowadays.

>>5109356
I think it's just aging, I used to create stories for the npcs when playing harvest moon on NDS as a little lad but now reading the generic text just bores me.

>>5108874
I liked 3 but there was no way I was going to play it optimally. Leveling was slow as fuck and getting shot down to level 1 to change classes was something I was only willing to do once and I made my thief a sage. It was painful as fuck to begin with because I thought class changing would come much sooner than it did so I ended up with a hero, warrior, fighter, and fucking thief for half the game. I only managed to power through without getting raped because of how hard my team was hitting but life was 10 million times easier when I got that sage.

>>5099875
The DS remakes are absolutely brilliant. I can't recommend them enough.

I always wished they'd re-do DQVII on the DS in that style, but I guess the game was too big.

>>5110319
If Dharma Temple was any earlier in the game characters wouldn't benefit at all from changing class. As it is they barely benefit.

>>5110319
There are metal slimes literally on the tower two steps frim dharma. Of course it would be easier if warrior type classes had hatchet man. Anyway you only need Bikill/Oomph and the anti breath spell to be honest.
And yeah you fucked up witht the party, you should go for magic user firsts.

>>5110319
You need to be at level 20 to do class changes anyways.
>hero, warrior, fighter, and fucking thief
Never did it without a healer. Was the thief even worth it since I never used one? Honestly I never really found changing Warrior nor Fighter worth it. Warrior main thing is it's high HP which is halved when class change. And Fighters are all about criting every chance they can which I think goes up as you level. So it's really only magic users and since you might just have one of those and get at least one Sage book you can just easily make him a Sage and have a full party that way.

Really wanted to replay FF3 NES witih a goof-off and see how far I can go before I go insane.

>>5110708
Thieves in 3 are surprisingly good. They're speed demons that don't sacrifice any offence or defense, plus they can steal at the end of battle, so they're a fairly balanced class, and are good for switching into Magic classes so they can get spells off early in the round.

>>5110708
>Never did it without a healer.
You should give it a try, it's pretty fun. My last run of the game had me starting with a Merchant, Martial Artist, and Thief. I can't quite recall how I ended up class changing them, but I do remember leaving the Merchant behind purposefully to build that town.

Just beat 1 (sfc) and decided to see if any DQ thread was up on here. Starting 2 tomorrow, although I saw the opening scene. Really like how the sequel upped the ante right from the start. So far, it gives me the impression that most of the work was put into 2's remake.

Also, is there any 1&2 rom that doesn't have the golem flute bug?

>>5111119
Don't know what the golem flute bug so I can't help you there. I know if your name is long enough it causes the green prince to stay comatose for the rest of the game. Or at least I think it's based on the length of your name.

DQ2 pretty much goes "more everything!" compare to DQ1. But sadly as been pointed out they rushed it so it's completely misbalanced and finding those crests is a pain. The SNES makes the grind slightly better but overall it's still a mess of a game in a lot of ways.

Playing DQ7 against this time on 3DS. Just at robot island and man I always forgot I fucking hate that boss fight. Going twice with a crit move plus a bit of a resistance to Sap. The worse part is that I think the best way to fight him is just Aoo! (Ruff ability that cause fear for a turn) but it only seem to hit 25% of the time which is better than just attack honestly. However the best part is the crit also hits himself for a bit and he did it killing Hero which in turn killed himself. Cost me 110 gold to bring myself back but man was it worth it for the laugh.

>>5110708
No. Thief was a waste of time. I thought his thieving skills might transfer when I class changed. I was mistaken. My life would have been easy street if I had gone with a priest instead.

>>5111480
Thief is a cool final class, you get speed, bonus items plus all your past spells, the same for Fighter, Warrior is just too slow but hey, stats don't matter much in 3 since they all cap at 255 except for Hp and Mp

>>5099875
>7
Why would you make that choice? It's much better on 3DS. Only major change was to the intro where the 3ds version cut out some of the tedium.

>>5113652
How's the emulation?

>>5113656
I don't really know but a 2DS can be found for like 40 bucks if you're poor.

>>5113667
I don't want a 2DS or 3DS. I rather invest money to improve my PC.

post favourite tracks. this series' music is incredible and underrated as fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Uz6Z5uSw4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtV69vGt37M

if there's one videogame tune that's always guaranteed to but a big smile on my face, its this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XltT3vKCE0

>>5113716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb4DV62j5hA&t=2s

Still one of the best overworld theme ever.

>>5113652
7 isn't supposed to be enjoyable, stop ruining a classic

>>5114236
>Not enjoying furry town
Dragon Quest 7 is great since it has the most range in stories. People complain how it's slow but each town has a buildup to make each island feel unique and impactful. With some fun/funny, some sad, and some just fucking depressing.

>>5113652
Because MUH ACCENTS

>>5098307
>play through and beat DQ1-3 as a kid on NES
>finally get around to trying 4
>can't stand it
>try 5
>just reached the first time-skip, so bored I don't want to continue
Going back and replaying, 3 is the only one I still find enjoyable. I don't know why.

>>5114682
I really like DQ4 since it has such a nice hook. Playing it each character feeling how they play and their reason to journey for the hero. And when you are finally controlling the main character you automatically know your task to find the other characters. It dies the whole FF6 thing but way better in my opinion. Sadly the DS accents ruined it for me plus lack of party chat and no I don't like playing on my phone so no mobile version.

>>5114751
>Sadly the DS accents ruined it for me plus lack of party chat and no I don't like playing on my phone so no mobile version.
There's always THAT option.

Anyone else feel like dq is a meme? I liked the sfc version of 3 but overall the series is pretty boring.

>>5114754
NES or learning Japanese? I quit the thought of learning Japanese long ago. There's some games I would like to play that isn't fan translated but not really enough to make me care enough to send 2-3 years of my life minimum learning it. But I do enjoy the NES version. It's not as grindy as the other ones plus it has some things to make the game alright to play like telling you if a piece of great will benefit you or not when buying it.

>>5113652
>Why would you make that choice?

see
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>>5114760
I started learning Japanese in November 2014 and finished DQ4 in April 2016. I could have done it a lot faster but I played other games first and had regular occupation/obligations.

>>5114768
Self taught or classes? I tried and about a month in I was trying to get grammar and things just kind of fell apart.

>>5114773
Self taught with Anki Core 6k and Tae Kim.

>>5114776
15-20 minutes a day I'm guessing. I'll try again. Maybe I can get through the grammar and beat in the kanji. Still remember the kana which is nice.

Got a link for the anki core that you used?

>>5114807
https://mega.nz/#!QIQywAAZ!g6wRM6KvDVmLxq7X5xLrvaw7HZGyYULUkT_YDtQdgfU
The exact set isn't important, most should offer words ordered by rarity. Audio is a good extra for beginners since you learn the proper pronunciation.

Speed is subjective. Start with something like 20/40 cards per day and modify it every once in a while to better suit your pace. Obviously the more you achieve in a day, the faster you reach the next level. 6000/12000 cards at 20/40 per day will take you 300 days.
Set realistic goals for yourself and regularly check against them to see your progress. e.g. a particular manga page or game intro

Grammar can wait until you have a decent grasp on standard words and vocabulary so that you don't struggle with example sentences.

>>5114812
Alright thanks. Also seen Tae Kim guide isn't on Android. But I can use him at home and just do and deck on my phone. Thanks.

>>5114682
Agree, 4 and 5 are such a bitch to replay too.
You have to wait until 9 for something like 3 again.

Can't wait till ps2 is considered retro in 2020 to suggest viii

>>5115324
viii was/is a joy, anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU1OxBdlFdE