/vr/ - Retro Games

Because the model wasn't originally released in the US

>>5089506
Yes it was.

But I do own it.

>>5089494
Because it has no parallel port in back so I can’t run imports or backups and hex code mods. It’s the no fun allowed version of PlayStation. I’ll stick with my 7501.

>>5089509
I don't get it. Not /vr/
>>5089512
you too

>>5089524
>Not /vr/
He said of all time, besides the console that anon posted only had Dreamcast ports anyway, it's more /vr/ than the other Gen 6ers

>>5089524

You said "all time", fag.

>>5089524
Get off the spectrum you genetic dead end.

>>5089528
board rules will subjugate thread rules dumbass
and I'm not even OP

>>5089531
Not my fault the tards that run this board don't know what the word "retro" means.

>>5089524

>nearly 20 years old
>not retro

lol?

>>5089538
Not to mention it was in development well before then.

>>5089529
>>5089534
>>5089538
>board has specific rules in place
>I'm just going to make up my own rules and throw a shitfit at people
Way to shit up a decent thread idea.

>>5089540

I understand the rule very well as I've been reported for it in the past. I just don't get it. Sixth generation IS retro and IS old as fuck. The rule makes no sense and has no place here, it's fucking up discussion of great RETRO games. So much for being a retro games board.

>>5089540
As I said, get off the spectrum.

>>5089494
I'm considering getting one actually. I remember got a CD with a lot of retro games (snes, nes, genesis roms, etc) and it ran in my PS. I wanted to download the iso but I don't remember the name. I tried to search for key words like "psx" "psx snes emulator" "psx iso pack" "psx snes" but I can't find anything.

>>5089553
wow pac-man! that game must be so old lol

halo was my first, OG xbox is SO TOTALLY retro!!! XD

>>5089567
I can't imagine being as angry as you. Do you just not like games?

>>5089567

t.boomer

>>5089534
>>5089538
>Released this century
>Retro
gtfo Gen Zers, go play FortNite and watch some pdp

>>5089617

>century
>100 years
>6th gen won't be retro until 2100 A.D.

dude do you suffer from downs?

>>5089494
The Genesis Model 1? I do

>>5089748
Based, redpilled, and has monster dong

>>5089703
Not him but
>can't sense blatantly obvious sarcasm
>dude wtf r u a tard????

>>5089752

I truly believe he is against calling 6th gen retro

>>5089795
How embarrassing.

>>5089748
Almost...

>>5089494
Crap controller. Shit games. Nothx.

>>5089748
>volume slider
why?

>>5089494
I do actually. I even made a thread about me trying to fix it a while ago, and I've been playing FF7 on it and been waiting for my modchip to arrive.

>>5089748
Man I had one as a kid with Sonic and another 3 bloatware games on a single cartridge.
My mom threw it away a few years later because it was collecting dust in the basement and she thought it was broken.
Nowadays they all seem to cost 100€ or more on eBay or at flea markets.
I'll get one some day.

>>5089517

I have a launch PS1 with parallel ports, but the disc drive died.

Do I have to replace the disc drive first to do anything with it?

>>5089865
Had a headphone jack

>>5089494
>tfw bought 2, along with 2 of the LCD screens, for multiplayer shenanigans
>realise later that the PSone isn't compatible with Link cables

>>5089517
>can't run imports or backups
yeah you can just mod it

nogaems

>>5089865
Because it's for the 3.5mm jack, labeled below.. Not only did this allow you to get sweet, crisp, stereo sound, but it was convenient as fuck back in the day. I remember as a kid playing the genesis late at night I'd be sitting on the floor next to the console with headphones plugged in so I could keep playing without disturbing anyone.

How did >>5089841 become >>5089748
?

I mean it looks like a cheap knock-off with that hulking silkscreened logo, even the PAL revision is nicer.

>>5090113
The color scheme is much better. Black/red/white > black/magenta/blue/gold

>>5090118
Colour differences aside (which I don't personally agree with but that's just opinion) the other changes made for the NA market cheapened the design horribly.

>>5089494
>caring about the aesthetic of a non handheld console

>>5089494
owned dem psxs as much as this thread got replies

>not already having a playstation by 2000

Call me crazy, but shouldn't you care about games, and not the shell in which games are played?

>>5089494
No Parallel port for the Unirom cartridge. Also no serial port for Wipeout.

>>5089517
>7501
The 7502 is actually better. The PS1 wasn't locked to NTSC or PAL, it's fully software controlled. However, all those later games that had extra copy protection tend to shut it off if it detects the PAL region BIOS. The reason for this is unknown.

>>5090176
Or you could just fuck all that shit and get component or rgb cables. That way everything plays correctly regardless of PAL or NTSC

>>5090243
The game isn't going to run at 60hz if the console only runs in 50hz. Most consoles are locked to either 60hz or 50hz, the PS1 is one of the few exceptions to this rule since it will run at the right speed as long as you can bypass the region lock at boot. Some consoles like the Megadrive can easily be switched because the only regional difference was a hard-soldered switch on the PCB, but the Famicom/NES has a different version of the CPU chip in the PAL version that runs at a different speed, making it completely impossible for it to run at 60hz.

>>5090176
>The PS1 wasn't locked to NTSC or PAL
If this is true then why do PAL and NTSC consoles have different colourburst oscillators fitted? (and why is DFO a thing?)

>>5090284
I dunno, but it doesn't really make a difference as long as you use RGB. I've even been playing the NTSC versions of Guncon games on a PAL Playstation without any problems.

>>5090171
Shouldn't you care about playing games, not reading and posting on a game forum?

>>5089494
The colour scheme is beautiful on this, why can't we have that nowadays ?

I have one i found for $3 years ago but i have never used it, it works but i dont see a reason to do it when i alreadh have a PS2 slim.

>>5089868
Wtf, genesis model 1s should not be going for that much. I got my non-TMSS model for $20 two years ago.

>>5090312
Not at all. I said "care about games," and discussing them on a forum falls under that umbrella.

a

>>5090482
This is the cheapest working model I found aside from a bid that's at 10€ atm but there's still 2 more days to go.

>>5090482
>>5090583
Or this one.

>>5090583
>>5090591
>PAL
Make sure to check this out.
https://mdpal60.net/wiki/megadrive/regionmod/start

>>5089494
>the most aesthetic console of all time
But I already own a Dreamcast. Well, several different rare/limited models of them, actually.

>>5090593
Should be a good read for today's night.
Anyway I first need to actually get my hands on one.

>>5089880
>Do I have to replace the disc drive first to do anything with it?
Yes. They are somewhat cheap. I replaced a SCPH-1001 and it was very easy. There are a few various models of the laser sled, but IIRC the sled that fits in the PSOne will fit. You have to change out the supplied grey plastic shield for the black one that came with your system. If you have no clue, it will take you less then an hour.

>>5089494
>aesthetic
kys, and I do but >>5089517 is a solid bastard that makes a solid argument and also I do, but mostly >>5089748 gets it right and >>5089841 can go choke on toffee, and also I do

a volume slider on the fucking console with a headphone jack, I mean come the fuck on. Perfection

>>5090593
>>5090601
Done reading.
Looks like a very easy mod.
Are there any notable advantages to this mod aside from cross region play?
I'm in Europe so I don't know how I'll get hold of American games. Unless ofc I can also mod it to run games off an SD card or something.
And if I could do that then playing the games at 60Hz instead of 50Hz is indeed an obvious advantage.

>>5090638
Why do you talk like such a spaz?

>>5090705
>I'm in Europe so I don't know how I'll get hold of American games. Unless ofc I can also mod it to run games off an SD card or something.
Just get a flashcart. The Megadrive doesn't have any mappers or extra sound chips so the compatibility is 100%.

>>5090712
I have only been in this country a short distance.

>>5090718
Except for Virtua Racer, but yeah. Thank fucking god genesis carts are so simple. You can play all but a single game off any chink everdrive clone that costs like 25 bucks

I like the NES the best. Super Famicom/PAL SNES is also good.

>>5090257
That is completely irrelevant to what i've written.
At least the PSone requires a hardmod to allow japanese and american games to run with correct colors in composite of S-Video.
If you're using component or RGB you don't have to worry about that though

>>5090731
>Except for Virtua Racer, but yeah
The 32x version is better anyway.
>>5090737
>composite of S-Video
Why would anyone who lives in a place where PAL Playstations are easier to get than NTSC Playstations use anything but RGB?

>>5090583
Fucking hell, why is it so expensive? Geneses in the US go for like 15-30 bucks. I'm looking online and you can easily get a console, hookups, multiple controllers, and a couple decent bundled games like sanic and aladdin for 40 USD or less BIN. I got my genesis for 20 shipped a few years back after my original childhood one died. And that was making sure to get an early revision HD-graphics Model 1.

>>5090735
>I like the NES the best
It's an oversized Famicom with an overly complicated cartridge mechanism that wears out pretty quickly.

>>5090741
In general it seems that the 32X was Sega's alternative to the Nintendo's heavy focus on on-cart chips for the SNES. Rather than having every special game have a special chip, just buy the chip externally as the 32X and have the special games require that. In theory it makes sense. Imagine if you could just buy a single SFX chip for the SNES and have that work for starfox, yoshi's island, doom, etc so that all the carts would be normally priced instead of ridiculously expensive each.

>>5090753
Yeah, that was exactly it. It was apparently spurred by Virtua Racer being very expensive.

I think the dreamcast is the cutest console. I wish I had the red one.

>>5090783
Dreamcast is cute. I wish I had the Sakura Taisen pink one. But $400 isn’t worth it.

>>5090783
I have two standard ones under my bed. I've never bought the cables so I just hit them to together when I have a fit.

Thanks for deporting all the garbage posts from this thread
this was a shit show yesterday

>>5090767
Figured, that makes sense. Like I said, I think it's actually a solid idea, the execution was just shit. The thing looked unaesthetic, the cable situation looks like a nightmare, it didn't get enough support to justify, and the Saturn was launching soon. If they had done something similar back in like 1993 and made sure it got proper support, it could've worked. The fact that Nintendo started far earlier with their chipped games, as well as the N64 not hitting shelves until 1-2 years after the others, made it a different situation for the SNES

>>5090808
So multiple times a day? Post pics.

>>5090815
While it looks fine, I've never really liked consoles like this that are just too small.

>>5090828
You can always make it bigger

>>5090834
Too bad those things are only that smoke-glass color so you can't match them to whatever PCE version you have.

And still, I just hate having tiny light-weight consoles. I always feel like I'm going to accidentally yank them off a table/shelf. It's okay with later systems like the Dreamcast or Wii since they have some heft to them, but with a lot of those older cart-based consoles, just too fucking light.

>>5090826
We'll see if I get worked up enough for Dcast smashies.

>>5090718
Sweet. I've been emulating Sega games on my Wii but I'd sure love to have the original console again.
I'll pay more attention to eBay and hopefully one will show up at a decent price.
I really don't want to drop more than 50€ on one.

>>5090743
I assume they sold more units there and there's a surplus also maybe sega isn't as loved as a retro console and that's why the prices are so low.

Here it seems to be different, every retro console is 70-80€+.
A lot of people sell just the console in shit condition for that much.
If it comes with a controller and a game and in good condition it goes over 100 easy.
Such is life in yurop.
Psp And DS also seem to have gone up in price lately. But those can still be found at decent prices, for now.

>>5090726
What the hell I just watched this commercial

>>5090834
Holy crap I didnt know about this thing! Gotta get one asap

>>5090737
>If you're using component or RGB you don't have to worry about that though
yes, you do. read up on "dual frequency oscillator".

>>5090309
try playing the konami-music/rhythm-games and watch the game become unplayable because of that issue.

>>5091487
funny, "crap" is a very precise description of the ssd3's hardware-design.

>>5092219
It certainly doesn't cause any timing issues. All it does is make the NTSC signal a bit off spec. That doesn't seem to be an issue though since even the GunCon accepts it. It's really only an issue if you for whatever reason want to use a modern TV that might not be as tolerant to strange signals as old CRTs.

>>5090583
>>5090591

Yikes, had no idea that you poor Europeans had to put up with such ridiculous prices. I feel bad for you.

>>5092253
I got some news.
I found a guy 30 min drive away from me with a sega mega drive.
Has the first Sonic game as well.
But it's missing the side port cover and the scart cable is in bad shape with wires being visible.
He's asking 40 for it (went down from 55).

Should I get it?

why are white/offwhite console colors so unused now?

>>5092253
Only collectors buy the European consoles anyway. I don't know anyone who actually plays the games that own a PAL NES for example, it's all Famicoms. I'm not interested in the Megadrive, but it's probably cheaper to just buy a Japanese one for that too.

>>5092341
I dont know for that price, especially if there are naked cords and sides. I would check to make sure it plays games well first.

>>5092341
Seems overpriced and shitty

Did you say a e s t h e t i c?

>>5092587
>>5092612
Thought so as well. I'll pass on it.
I'm not that desperate to get one right now anyway.

>>5092642
>amerimutt sufami
>not shit

>>5092694
>waaah I can't find any good consoles because I live on a shit continent!
>dumb amerimutts!

Oh, you mean the Sega mark III?

>>5092702
>not buying a regular sufami from japan and connecting it by RGB-SCART to literally any CRT made after 1985 or so

>>5089865
Headphone jack. Shit was cash money as a kid, especially since the family business was Audio installations. Had a perfect set of cans for that shitty soundchip.

>>5092642
I still dont understand the visual appeal of the american snes. It looks boxy and generic. Even the color scheme is depressing. I prefer Pal Version/SuperFamicon greatly.

>>5092762
Purple and grey is kino

>>5092783
maybe, but they dont work with the boxy design at least for me. I prefer the SNS-101 with those colours

>>5092786
You prefer THAT?

>>5092818
PAL SNES/Super Famicon >> SNS-101 > American SNES

Thats how much I dislike the bland boxy design of the american SNES.

>>5092758
>Headphone jack. Shit was cash money as a kid, especially since the family business was Audio installations.
Wouldn't you have been easily able to just get something to convert the RCA to a headphone jack in that case?

>>5092237
>It certainly doesn't cause any timing issues.
yes, it does.

>>5094151
further info: http://www.mikemarble.de/ddr/ddrspeedfix.html

here with screenshots showing the wrong frequencies/resolutions: https://assemblergames.com/threads/dms4-se-pro-ps2-how-to-run-ps1-ntsc-imports-at-60hz-via-component.51153/
e.g. posting #4 showing 241p and 59.4Hz instead of 240p and 59.82Hz.

Using a dual frequency oscillator (DFO*) with a ps1 or the homebrew PS1VModeNeg with a ps2 fixes this.

*
https://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=5744.0
https://circuit-board.de/forum/index.php/Thread/18016-DFO-Dual-Frequency-Oscillator/

>>5092832
Based. PAL SNES is indeed way better looking than the american one. Nice subtle curves without being a blob.

>>5094203
Where do I buy these things? Videogameperfection.com used to sell kits, but they haven't had them in stock for quite a while.

>>5089506
as usual, fpbp

>>5089506
shut the fuck up dude no one cares about that piece of shit
kill yourself

>>5089748
BIG DICK NIGGA RIGHT HERE

>>5090171
DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE? ITS ABOUT INTERNET CRED

>>5090752
Hahaha
stick with your shitty tastes mate
>wears out quickly
>99% of the time works perfectly 30 years later with the boiling method
>also has the best video signal natively (besides expensive shit like playchoice and titler)

>>5094267
>>also has the best video signal natively
The Famicom (besides Playchoice and Titler) has shit video signal regardless of what you do because the video chip itself outputs composite instead of RGB for some reason.

>>5094267
>defending having to fucking boil the cartridge connectors from time to time because some retard at nintendo just had to make it look like a video cassette player and just couldn't make do with simply having a toploader only horizontal

>>5089494
I do own the psone w/sony lcd screen.

>>5089494
When it came out, my parents didn't let me buy one
Years later, I didn't want one because PC Gaming was much more fun
Today my GF doesn't let me buy one. Also I don't own a TV to connect it to

>>5092341
>buying PAL 4th gen consoles
Unless if it already has a 60HZ mod switch, why bother?

>>5094907
Nostalgia I guess. And if I can get it at a good price I can just mod it myself.

>>5089494
Actually that title belongs to either the NA SNES, 3DO, or the Sega Saturn.

I only own the Fat ps1 :/

Because I don't buy fucking game consoles for the aesthetics of the console itself, but rather for the games?

>>5094251
found the xbox guy who got proxy banned

>>5094240
>Where do I buy these things?
nowhere anymore, afaik.
you just can order the pcbs and parts and make it yourself.
too bad you need to make a custom programmer, too.
bit of a waste when you just want to make DFOs for yourself.
>>5095049
are you not presenting your consoles in a nice shelf in your living room to all your visitors, friends and family? LOL!!1

>>5095910
to be correct:
>too bad you need to make a custom programmer, too.
unless you have a raspi: https://github.com/ikorb/cdceprog