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Were fat PS2's designed for multiple regions power wise?

I have an American PS2 and I live in Europe.

Is it necessary for me to use a step down converter, or could I simply plug it directly using a PAL power cord?

>> No.5084062

Yes, absolutely use a converter. Don't ever risk it when it comes to electricity conversion.

>> No.5084081 [DELETED] 

>>5084038
An american PS2's internal power supply cannot take 240V

>> No.5084095

Ignore this guy: >>5084062

You won't need anything other than a plug that fits.

I'm a UK citizen and US green card holder. I've moved between the UK, US and Canada and I've never encountered any problems with just swapping power cables.

It never killed any of my PC's, laptops, phones, or my nintendo DS.

>> No.5084101

>>5084095
Hey that's super but you absolutely will burn up a PS2's power supply

>> No.5084103

>>5084095
You're an idiot. Any of the things you've listed but the PC have external power supplies. So yeah, of course it'll work if you just switch cables since the cables are the power supply.
In the case of the PS2 the PSU is internal and the cable is pretty much just a piece of wire with two plugs on each end.
Your PC might've had a switching power supply that can take both 120 and 240 but the PS2's supply can't

>> No.5084123

>>5084103
You're either wrong, or sony must be uniquely shoddy, because literally every device I have ever taken across the atlantic has worked just fine.

I've also never heard of people in the UK needing to find new power supplies for imported consoles either, but hey, maybe you're right and it's just Sony being shit.

>> No.5084127

>>5084103
>So yeah, of course it'll work if you just switch cables since the cables are the power supply.

No, when I say the cable, I mean the cable that plugs into the power supply box, not not the box itself.

>> No.5084132 [DELETED] 

>>5084123

>I've also never heard of people in the UK needing to find new power supplies for imported consoles
>I've never encountered any problems with just swapping power cables
You're contradicting yourself and you're either trolling or don't know what you're talking about

>> No.5084141

Not retro, please read the sticky and lurk a bit more before making a new thread OP. Thank you and have a good time.

>> No.5084143 [DELETED] 

>>5084127
The Nintendo DS for example doesn't have anything like that for instance. The cable is the PSU.
And maybe the stuff you're talking about is more modern and has an integrated switching PSU but again, the PS2 doesn't.
Same story with anything with an internal PSU at least until generation 7

>> No.5084147

>>5084127
The Nintendo DS doesn't have anything like that for instance. The cable is the PSU.
And maybe the stuff you're talking about is more modern and has an integrated switching PSU but again, the PS2 doesn't.
Same story with anything with an internal PSU at least until generation 7

>> No.5084175 [DELETED] 

>>5084123
You're either a troll or the single most retarded individual that has ever posted on /vr/. It's only blind luck your electrical ignorance didn't cost you hundreds of dollars of electrical equipment and you didn't get electrocuted. That is if you've ever even been to America which I have my doubts over. I've seen people (rightly) get torn apart online for being retarded enough to plug imported devices into incompatible outputs and here you are giving out advice that it's ok to just swap and switch them all. I still do think there's a good chance this is an elaborate troll.

>> No.5084178

>>5084123
You're either a troll or the single most retarded individual that has ever posted on /vr/. It's only blind luck your electrical ignorance didn't cost you hundreds of dollars of electrical equipment and you didn't get electrocuted. That is if you've ever even been to America which I have my doubts over. I've seen people (rightly) get torn apart online for being retarded enough to plug imported devices into incompatible outputs, destroying the system internals, and here you are giving out advice that it's ok to just swap and switch them all. I still do think there's a good chance this is an elaborate troll.

>> No.5084203

>>5084178
Guess I'm just the luckiest man alive and all my electronics are uniquely durable examples. Like I'm rolling natural 20's every day.

I mean, it's possible.

>> No.5084219

>>5084147
>The Nintendo DS doesn't have anything like that for instance. The cable is the PSU.

For my nintendo DS I just plug it into a travel adapter, which I'm pretty sure doesn't do any thing other than give the plug a compatible physical shape. It might have an additional fuse in there, but that's it.

>> No.5084220

>>5084038
>were underage designed for multiple boards?
Sure. /v/, /b/ etc. Just not /vr/. Back to your containment boards. Like the PS2 you don't meet the age requirement here. Or the global one.

>> No.5084225

>>5084203
wow, wtf are you on about now - "durable electronics", didn't you listen to a single word of what those other anons were trying to explain to you? It's the power supply unit that is in the cable itself that you're swapping with those. You're swapping the converter with it. Try using them without swapping the converters and see what happens. Dummy.

If you have a handler who takes care of this type of stuff for you I am ok with that. If you're legit plugging in devices or near electricity yourself that's concerning.

>> No.5084257

>>5084219
Ok, you just confirmed that you're lying/trolling.
None of the DS families charging cables are multi voltage.
If you really did plug a european DS charger into an american outlet or the other way around you would've at least burnt up the charger

>> No.5084275

>>5084038
Every video game system uses an AC adapter, whether it's external or built in like with the PS2fat, Saturn, Dreamcast, etc.

With consoles with an external AC adapter like NES, Genesis, SNES, N64, etc, you just need to make sure the power supply is correct for its inputs and outputs. Meaning one built for 240V in europe or 120V in America. A britbong can use an American SNES so long as he uses a britbong SNES AC adapter, or another britbong AC adapter with the same output.

But since you can't just easily swap like this with consoles like the fat PS2, that means you need some sort of step-down.

>> No.5084305

>>5084095
So, a US green card makes you an electrician?

>> No.5084361

>>5084038
The PS2, like lots of other older electronics, uses a linear power supply. Don't attempt to plug it into 220V. Best case, you'll put a ton of heat into the voltage regulators and they may burn up more quickly. Worst case is instant catastrophic failure of all sorts of components.

Most modern electronics, including laptops, and phones, use switching power supplies. Those can typically handle a wide range of voltages, so they're safe to use with 220V.

>> No.5084362

is mayonnaise a power supply?

>> No.5084375

While we're on the subject, how would an American SNES stand up to being plugged with a European AC adapter?

>> No.5084391

>>5084141
eh. Gray area. PS2 is a backwards compatible system, and OP wasn't trying to talk about games. I'd allow it.

>> No.5084392

>>5084375
It would be a very bad thing to do. The European SNES power supply outputs AC, not DC. You can plug an American power supply into a European SNES, but not the other way around.

>> No.5084408

>>5084375
>>5084392
Wouldn't even be possible without hacking up some kind of adapter or cutting off one connector and re-soldering another since the barrel plugs of both are completely different

>> No.5084453

>>5084038
Generally, you should not be using foreign electronics with internal power supplies without some sort of converter unless the voltages match/are close enough (100v JP Saturn in the US is fine, 100V JP Saturn in 200V+ europe is NOT fine). So no, your Fat PS2 is not okay for using in a different region without a converter

>> No.5084687

>>5084453
Isn’t the rule something like 50v or less diffrance it’s safe, more than that something is gonna fry?

>> No.5084708

>>5084687
No, that's not a rule. Not even close. For some devices, even the difference between 100V and 120V is pushing them close to their limits. Typically 10% is safe, beyond that you'd better know what you're doing.

>> No.5084791

>>5084687
There's no rule stating that overvolting is ever safe. You sometimes get by with slightly more or less than what the system expects but I cannot imagine there ever being a case where you could go 50V over without the system busting into flames.

>> No.5085425

>>5084791
That depends on your definition of overvolting. You seem to think that there's some fixed number that's the "correct" voltage for a system. In reality it's a range and the "sweet spot" in that range isn't even necessarily agreed or clear. Take, for example, an actual retro console like the Saturn. I happen to have one open right now. On the back the sticker say AC 100V. On the PSU it says AC125V. So if you "overvolt" by 10% to 110V you're actually undervolting by 15V. You'd have to overvolt by 25% just to get it right. And this PSU actually lists the range, 85VAC-132VAC. That's a range of 47V it's designed to work in but yeah I'm sure it would burst into flames with another 3 volts. Youropoor Saturns have roughly double that range because roughly double the voltage.

>> No.5085681

>>5084038
Look at the sticker on the back. If it says 100-240v 50-60hz you're good. Otherwise you'll blow it up. If you use a transformer be careful about what one you get. The cheap Chinese ones can kill electronics.

Is there a reason it has to be a fat PS2? AFAIK slim power supplies are all 100-240v. (But always check first)

>> No.5085720

>>5084141
Ps2 is retro

>> No.5087483
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5087483

>>5085720
>Ps2 is retro

>> No.5087491

>>5084038
idk, read the fucking sticker near the PSU maybe?

>> No.5087497

>>5085681
this