/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5078704

>>5078704
RayForce series

>>5078748
>savescumming, in book form

>>5078759
Rayforce is really overrated within the shmups community.
The lock-on mechanic is awesome, sure, but the dodging in these games is just so unfun and straight up annoying.

>>5078704
Dodonpachi
Radiant Silvergun
Darius Gaiden
Metal Black
Galactic Attack
Batsugun
Blast Wind
Thunder Force 5
Thunder Force Gold Pack (contains TF3 and 4)

>>5078704
I'm making a recommendation that you read the bible, you read the gospel of John, and that you understand that Jesus Christ died on the cross for all your sins.

>>5079270
>overrated within the shmups community
who fuckin gives a shit about your little band of autists

>>5079293
And on the 3rd day he 1CC'd dodonpachi

So what's the best version of Dodonpachi?

>>5079328
Arcade (PCB/MAME), same goes for pretty much all of these

Later Section/Galactic Attack, Darius Gaiden, and Soukyugurentai for Saturn are all good and not ridiculously expensive. I got Soukyugurentai for $40 a few years ago but it seems the price has gone up a bit unfortunately.

>>5079376
No wonder since it's one of the few games that work better on console than on MAME still, it has graphical glitches there. And it's a good one too.

Sengoku Blade (Saturn)
Gradius Gaiden (PS1)

ZANAC NEO

>>5079395
Agreed on the second, probably the best made-for-console shmup or almost game I've played.
Sengoku Blade's regression in MAME that had been going for like half a year has been finally fixed in 0.202. Have you beat this game? I heard it's insanely hard, I still have to go for even a loop.

>>5079403
I've never one-credited Sengoku Blade, but I have played it extensively, and I believe I could one-credit it with a little time and effort. It is a difficult game, but it seems rather easy compared to other Psikyo shmups such as Cannon Spike, Zero Gunner 2, Dragon Blaze and Gunbird 2.

>>5079568
I guess you mean the first loop only, have you checked the second?
Thing is, credit feeding in Psikyo games barely counts as practice since dying drastically decreases rank, thus you're dealing with much slower and less aggressive patterns that you'd have to deal with normally.

Saturn:
Battle Garegga
Batsugun
Gunbird
Darius Gaiden
Soukyugurentai
Shienryu
Blast Wind
Cotton Boomerang

Don't bother with the Playstation X, it's shit for arcade games.

>as always everyone ignores Gun Frontier
Truely the most underrated shmup of all times

>>5079618
More like the entire genre to this board lmao

>>5079626
Fucking jarpigs ruining my retro gaming board.

>>5079629

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>>5079573
I didn't know there was a second loop, although I'm not surprised since other Psykyo games games have them. Yeah, I never credit feed shmups unless, out of curiosity, I want to check out later levels to see how crazy the game will get.

>>5079747
I guess you meant you played with one credit quite a bit. And yeah it's pretty much a main line Psikyo game despite the horizontal perspective. Biggest difference doesn't even impact one credit play: it's the only one of them that I recall that doesn't send you back to the beginning of the stage upon continuing after the set of random stages.
For two loops it's allegedly one of the, if not the hardest by them.

>>5078704
Nobody ever gives Raizing enough love, so i'm going to:
Get fucking Shippu Mahou Daisakusen on saturn.
>>5078759
The first one on Saturn is god damned amazing.

>>5080012
Battle Garegga and Terra Diver (twice) have been mentioned in this very thread. Raizing is also one of the most popular companies in the shmup community.
The lack of Raizing attention you see is just the overall lack of attention this board has for made-for-arcade games, couple that with a distaste for shmups as a whole and... yeah.

>>5079629
It's true though. This board circlejerks to SNES and its boring jarpigs

>>5080036
shmups skinner box trash fuck off to your degeneral

>>5080038
Why are you in this thread then, may I ask? It's like you're lurking this very rare shmup thread just to attack its fans.

>>5080041
Oh shit didn't see this was the annual faggot reunion. Actually I'm here because you fucks invaded MY thread to shitpost about your shitty world records nobody cares about. It's payback you BITCH

>>5080046
OK, sorry some shmup fans hurt you in the past. Hope it's fine now.

>>5080049
too late I'm gonna destroy your precious culture or what's left of it with ANIME TITS

>>5080046
>>5080052

>>5080054
take a screenshot of this *grabs cock*

>>5080052
>>5080058
lmao are you alright, anon? Can't believe you're this angry over people liking shmups and some of them not being nice (hint: this is common to all fanbases)

>>5080060
I ain't angry I'm just righteous now bend over and take my jarpig cock

Tell me about shumpfags, why do they feel proud about playing with spaceship toys?

>>5079640
Damn, this post was right. Constant shit-talking about this console or that console happens, but say anything about the beloved snes and its jrpgs, and He Who Does It For Free loses his shit.

>>5080080
Tell me about jarpig goons, why don't they feel embarrassed by playing games about magical anime teenagers saving the planet from an ancient evil with the powers of friendship?

>>5080080
Shmups are that secret special genre that will never be infiltrated by normies (unless u count galaga and starfox)

>>5080137
Well what about undertale

>>5080136
There is nothing gay about masturbating to GAY ELFs. In fact if shumps are so good a genre how come they are dead

>>5080134
Maybe take the hint and leave the board.

>>5079273
This plus the gradius deluxe pack, salamander deluxe pack, and all the Parodius games. Parodius Forever With Me = best game in the gradius franchise

There's also an Irem comp with X Multiply and some crappy verti, worth it for X Multiply.

And Danger Park on ps1

>>5079403
Is sengoku blade a hori where you play as a ninja and you throw shurukins? I made it probably 4 levels in on the first credit I ever ran through the game and assumed it was easy af since I'm a pretty average player

>>5079328
Best home version is on the PS1. The Saturn version has lower res sprites.

>>5080573
>X Multiply and some crappy verti, worth it for X Multiply
>calling Image Fight "crappy verti"
That game is one of Irems best games, and the reason Radiant Silvergun and Strania exist.

>>5080137
Shmups was the most popular genre in the arcades before the fighting game craze started by Street Fighter II. Raiden, which came out a year before that, was a big international success.
These days, however, you're right due to how much the gaming landscape has changed.

>>5080584
Maybe not, except possibly the blonde girl in that game. Thing is, with Psikyo games, their first randomized levels are made to be beatable on reaction by the average player, even if you can't you have some bombs. Notice how you reached stage 4, which is the first non-random level. This is the usual stuff, after that point it's where they put memorization requirements to survive in their games, even in the first loop. Then there's their second loops which are like 10 time as hard except for their first couple of games where they're harder but not as much. In other words, they're designed so that the average player can have a decent amount of playtime and with a fresh experience thanks to randomized orders, but quickly ramping up the challenge right after that, which is the point only good an dedicated players will survive. This formula lasted them almost a decade so it worked quite well.

>>5080573
Give Image Fight a chance, man.

>>5081172
Why are shmupretards constantly so angry? Shouldn't you be proud of your world records

>>5081173
Where's the anger in my post?

>>5081174
Nice try cee, or is it kraut?

No R-Type Delta? Probably the best horizontal shmup on the Playstation.

>>5082008
It's 30fps though and you the changing perspective can be disorienting. R-Type 2 still the best

>>5079293
Saved and breadpilled

>>5082074
>Saved and breadpilled

Is the Virtua Stick worth the $125-150? Or is there a newer high-quality arcade pad (good stick and buttons) that I could just use with my Saturn through an adapter?

>stage 2 in DonPachi

>>5082118
After a bit of research I've decided on the Hori SS Fighting Stick, and depending on whether or not I find it acceptable I'll swap out the parts for Sanwa buttons and a Seimitsu joystick (the latter of which apparently takes some work with a Dremel to get it to fit, but it's doable).

>>5082118
>>5083751
Personally I'd really like to build my own arcade stick, but it'd need to be something I could use on all my systems. I wonder how feasible it'd be to do a DIY probably defaulted to USB and then have it also adapt to anything from dreamcast to saturn to genesis to playstation, etc

I don't get what everyone else sees in Raiden, feels like I have to force myself to play the game
Everything about it is so boring, from the attack patterns to the enemy designs to the music

>>5082118
There's a PS3/4-to-PS2 adapter from Brook which can be used with Tototek adapters to cover the majority of classic gaming systems if you have a modern stick or pad you want to use.

>>5083821
Did you perhaps credit feed it? Or play Raiden Trad instead of the original?
Not that I find it too great either, I prefer the Toaplan games it emulates (notable Twin Cobra is pretty much the template for Raiden but more fun IMO)

>>5084235
notably*

>>5079293
Graced and readpilled

>>5083835
>if you have a modern stick or pad you want to use.
I don't have one, but I'm kinda building a whole setup around my Saturn so I'm okay with having a stick just for it.

>>5078746
FPBP

>>5080584
Yes