/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

-Some elements in the OP (not the news) need some updating
-Quaddicted no longer blocking EU IPs, but still seeking help for GDPR compliance

=== NEWS ===

[10-01] Deepdream Doom v1 released, v1.01 may be coming soon
https://www.mediafire.com/?z7wrmazotn6ws

[09-29] Quake C devkit "progs_dump" released, plus maps demonstrating its use
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61633

[09-28] La Tailor Girl's 1.68.99 release available
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=300#p1074206

[09-16] Doom Delta 2.0 released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmRBcbP5q5k

[09-15] Anon's quickstart map updated to support more Heretic, Hexen, and Strife IWADs
https://my.mixtape.moe/ykpkoh.pk3

[09-14] RedneckGDX released (fixed link)
https://m210.duke4.net/index.php/downloads/download/8-java/52-redneckgdx

[09-13] SM187 for Quake released, 4 hour speedmaps
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61629

[09-11] id Tech 1 mapping tool 'Eureka Editor' updated
http://eureka-editor.sourceforge.net/

[09-10] John Anderson, author of Ultimate Doom's E4M7 and other maps, passed away back in April
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/43010-where-is-dr-sleep/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-1916824

[09-07] System Shock Enhanced Edition's source port update released, including official support for mods
https://steamcommunity.com/games/410710/announcements/detail/3098929145092416976

[09-06] LOTX milestone 3, project put on hold
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ymtpoqmqbur88l6/LOTX-milestone3.rar?dl=0

[09-02] DAKKA SSG revamp in latest alpha
http://jinotra.in/downloads/mods/doom/dakka/dakka-0.10alpha-2018-09-02.pk3

[09-02] Audio level rework in new pre-release version of Babel
https://my.mixtape.moe/mrcokp.pk3

=== PREVIOUS ===

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=== PROTIP ===

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>>5075848
This thread has my attention...

>>5075848
... and my blessing.

>>5075850
>no mention of 100 minutes of /vr/ in the news

HENLO FRIENDS
I am trying to make a weapon mod for Quake 1
Does QuakeSpasm up the vertex limits for .mdl at all? I'm getting a "too many vertices" error

>>5075873
>>5075876
Every time I hear about how great the writing is in Marathon, I think about playing it, and then I remember getting lost in a fuckin vent maze and I think "well I guess I'll never know."

>>5075932
I'd be more interested if the levels didn't look so incredibly fucking ugly in all the screenshots.

>>5075938
Classy.
>>5075887
I forgot to link back to the news post. But here: >>5075850

>>5075451
Do you plan to post it, or just work on another one?

>>5075848

>>5075949
That's mostly the first game. The subsequent ones in the Aleph One engine and ESPECIALLY the gameplay mods improve a lot on that regard.

Finally, the perfect gun to dual wield, and then alt-fire for six more.

What do you guys think is THE best retrofps expansion?

https://twitter.com/RPGSite/status/1046176551782428672

What class to play in Hexen for the most complete and fun experience?

>>5076067
I really really really hope he doesn’t get a single cent returned to him

>>5076069
Mage is a very peculiar experience. On one hand, it allows you to play the game without concerning yourself with melee at all. On the other hand, the starting mage's gun is fucking broken beyond belief, and allows for a casual faceroll through like 95 percent of both the main game and its addon on the highest difficulty, with other weapons and artifacts being used only like once on a blue moon. This leads to the game devolving to basically an adventure game about labyrinths and traps, with monsters being no more than parts of those traps, and the combat being purely about proper movement and evasion, rather than scoring hits.

It is a very unusual experience when you play it that way, weird but quite satisfying in its own manner.

The other two classes seem to be way more difficult. Especially cleric. You need to do melee, you need to actually use mana-consuming weaponry, you actually have the necessity to use artifacts once in a while as well. But it doesn't have this weird nondescript purity of the mage's playthrough to it. Like, you really have this feel of, like, "this is something else", like, exoticity or something.

>>5076069
Fighter is most fun / satisfying but hardest
Mage is the opposite
Cleric is inbetween

>>5076091
To put it in a slightly different way, I guess, Fighter and Cleric are more traditionally dungeoncrawl-ish. They require you to collect consumables and treasure, since those are valuable resources you have to use in order to gain the opportunities to proceed further. Mage, however, requires only a fraction of the overall resources the game throws at him and is, like, 90% self-sufficient. So, for him, the game shifts heavily towards puzzles, traps and just finding the damn exit, to a basically a very unusual game in an adventure format, with combat almost amounting to something between a mini-game of sorts and a continuation of ingame puzzles.

So, to answer >>5076069's question, I guess, Cleric gives you the most complete experience, while Mage gives you the most unique one.

>>5070925
>>5075887
>>5075954
https://mega.nz/#!PtI1RKqY!K_FPA74NnroW3U5NTowkH4tVWGeIW_avsRlSVxJjMjw
did my best, also did whatever with sound and lightning

>>5076147
Map name: Dehumanized
Credit: Party Boy
there is a readme included tho

>>5076091
>>5076106
You know, it actually makes sense, and is kinda realistic.
(Well, if mages were realistic)
If you put a warrior and a mage separately into an identical cave.
The warrior really would have to survive, it would be a matter of life and death for him, especially with stronger monsters.
While a mage would just carelessly sweep the monsters away with his magic and casually stroll through the place. Well, unless it's like a DnD type of mages or something, you know, the kinds of mages that instead of mana have limited spell uses per day.

>>5076064
officially released? hands down Scourge of Armagon

>>5076147
>>5076152
Cool. Played through, and it was pretty fun. Goading infighting is pretty prevalent here. The single texture throughout was at least well chosen, and worked with the verticle light strips that broke it up. Better than STARTAN.
Only issues I noticed that were missed were that the elevator out of the final pit is untagged, and there is a single untextured wall above where there two Barons of Hell are. If you have any time left over you or I could fix those in under a minute.

Any particular midi you want for this map?

>>5076184
>Goading infighting is pretty prevalent here
chainsaw the demon and spectres and try to make the cyberdemon and the spider mastermind kill each other
>>5076184
>there is a single untextured wall above where there two Barons of Hell are
is it impossible to do it without errors?
https://mega.nz/#!3551XKCb!VJkfRJEK0qdXvwy__q76Cf0uHlRq0bI3NB02emsdc7E>>5076184
>Any particular midi you want for this map?
the midi is inside the wad

>>5076172
It's not even about causing ARMAGEDDON MUA-HA-HA. The gun in question is effectively a pea-shooter. However, it possesses a very specific combination of qualities, that make it a very, very broken pea-shooter, and, consequently, the mage's playthrough - a cheesefest.

>>5076147
Here's a demo, though I didn't finish the map: http://www.mediafire.com/file/u6fgpvv8vlzui0j/parboyFDA.lmp/file

As always, this has a voice recording inside of it that can be listened to through this fork of PRBoom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/96894-my-prboom-build-with-in-demo-voice-recording-support-and-something-extra/ (though it can be played without it)

The demo is pretty long because I just kept starting over. A chainsaw and infight oriented map is an interesting idea, but both of those require a good amount of luck with pain chances and enemy behavior. But because there so little health available, there's very little room for error, so it seems like bad luck can end a run - trying to chainsaw a caco while it's infighting can still end up with it turning around and blasting you, costing you a ton of health through what's essentially no fault of your own because that same strategy could work in another run by lucking out on the pain chance draw.
The starting pinky rush is blood-pumping, but then needing to swing around the chainsaw for a bunch of spectres at the top of a staircase is just kinda tedious.
The big atrium with the cyberdemon is a real fuckin mess because there's no cover to deal with the arch-vile and all the chaingunners once you hop down and there's no way to escape back to where you came from, so the only way I was able to handle it was by just hoping the archie would come down to the dropoff and I'd be able to blindly fire at it with autoaim until it died. From there, it's a matter of hoping the chaingunners get enough people pissed to kill them all, because they're all out of autoaim range and trying to actively organize infighting seems to be suicide because there's nowhere to hide.
The only time I got to fight the cyber felt like the result of a lot of lucky draws falling into place. I'm open to the idea that I could be trash, but I just didn't really have fun trying to interpret this map.

Thanks for making it, though.

>>5076231
I'll record how I play it tomorrow, I have to sleep

>>5076225
Yeah. And that pea-shooter actually may have two explanations!
Either it's a wand that draws "nature mana" from the enviroment, and the spell in the wand is so basic that the gathered mana is enough.
Or the spell takes so little mana that it drains less mana from the mage, than he can regenerate.

Since that other guy hasn't posted it yet,
IT'S still SCREENSHOT SUNDAY, MOTHERFUCKERS, LET'S SEE WHAT else YOU GOT FOR US.

So when's Bowsette wad?

>>5075848
Oh cool a marathon edition. Aleph One has received the first update in three years, hopefully it leads somewhere.

>>5075873
>>5075876
Which TC is this from? Eternal?

>>5075932
The latter two games are much better but if you generally dislike getting lost you probably won't like any Marathon game. You can read all the terminals online though.

fuck, we needed a OP pic with doomguy's face for the hat to work

>>5076290
Dude, that's the third level from Marathon 1.

>>5076301
Oh, is that the hidden terminal where you need to jump on the barrels on Never Burn Money? I always skipped it because it was too difficult for me.

>>5076302
Well, the "ashless fire" one is in the open from what I remember, but the Gheritt White one is, indeed, from THAT particular secret.

>>5076278
It's monday now. But sticks.

>>5076306
> robotic "who wanta some wang"

>>5076304
Oh. To be honest, I don't remember the miscellaneous M1 terminals very well. I've played M2 and M3 a combined total of two dozen times from start to finish, but I've probably only done two full playthroughs of M1. I can recall every Infinity terminal by heart and most of the Durandal terminals as well, but not much for M1.

>>5076306
Will you be asking the Heretical Doom guy for more staff sprites?

It's technically October and i cant wait any longer to replay Unloved

>>5076345
I don't think it'll be necessary, Kustam will be using his staff like a more traditional (ish) quarter staff involving a lot of poking and jabbing.

>>5076278
figured out how to give beams endpoints
now i can make arcing lightning that still goes precisely from point A to point B
then i need to figure out how to do smooth curves

>>5076351
> not swinging it like a baseball bat to hit everything around you

I know we don't talk about brootl doom but holy shit the newest version is awful, literally the only good thing about it (the blood) has been changed to these tiny photoshop brush looking splatters that don't fit at all with Doom's graphics. The previous version still has the same nice chunky blood that's used in ketchup, why the fuck would that retard change the shit that made his mod popular?

>>5076369
I was toying with that idea. Because I got the moveset planned like this:

Press attack: Do a normal jab, hits a few times
Charge it for a bit: Harder jab, strikes more, ends with some kinda shockwave for even more range
Tap it rapidly: jab rapidly, less damage per strike and overheats over time
hold primary and hit secondary: ????

So I've been thinking about what that last move could be, a big wide sweep might be fun.

>>5076278
>>>/v/433717256
I tried to spread the cause. It didn't work.

HEY DOES ANYBODY HAVE
a rip of all of the sound files from Quake Champions?
and would be willing to upload it?
maybe this is a good place to ask

>>5076396
while you're at it, if I may piggyback off this request, if you could rip the music that would just be bananas
last I check nobody cared enough to upload the most recently patched in music, which is in my opinion, pretty banging

Whosa bigger CHAD: Carmack of Abrash?

>>5076394
Please don't bring /v/ here. We prefer it that they forget other video game boards exist.

>>5076401
they started encrypting the pak files and the people that know how to unpack them correctly, are slow as hell at updating the tools
looking for a rip from earlier this year

>>5076394
ashes is fucking great but no one here is talking about it either
the tunnels, the mall and the ruined city are all great, never found the shotgun though

>>5076425
i meant the double shotgun
i also noticed that there was an alternate route through the end of the tunnels, i ended up burning the vines and turning on the water to exit, but it seems like there's a whole chunk of map behind the door next to it that i couldn't figure out how to open

>>5076430
The author says its "not done yet", so maybe you can't access that part.
I thought we'd see more mods for the 25th anniversary this year, tbqh.

>>5076376
Uhh i want to say chainsaw like propellerattach like he spins it above his head fast enough to multihit enemies and possibly glide while doing it in mid air but i dont know if that will fit the weapons theme.

>>5076435
That's treading a little bit on Heretical doom's toes. Definitely doesn't fit the weapon's theme or the character very much.

>>5076443
Hmm ill keep feeding you suggestions and you might get youre gears grinding that way sorry if i become annoying for doing this.
Anyways how about a empowered version of both one after another like lets say you get a normal multihit jab and then if you land it you instantly prep an empowered charged attack that if you miss you will get fatigued for a moment and the strike will send you swinging 360 in a disorientating way and put the combined alt fire on cooldown but if you hit you can keep doing the jabs into charged attack reportedly untill you miss and make yourself vulnurable for a second like a risk vs reward type of deal.

>>5076451
I think it'd be best to keep things simple and just have it be an extra attack rather than some sorta shift function, as I'm worried people are gonna forget about this attack anyways, the last thing I wanna do is confuse people further.
Simplicity, consistency, and ease of use is my biggest goal.

>>5076453
Well i think the most fun yet simple idea that comes to mind is either what you thought off in the first post being a large charged swipe that i imagine would do a fair bit of knockback and dammage or maybe like a straight attack where he pushes the entire staff like a spear into whatever hes aiming at that can pierce enemies who find themselves in rows and possibly bounce himself of surfaces it colides with like hit a wall and be knock backed a bit or aim it at you're feet and pogo off for some extra height.

>>5076396
>>5076401
i ripped stuff earlier this year
havent played or updated the game since, so doesnt have newer stuff
ill post a link when its done uploading

>>5076460
You're a true hero, Anon.

>>5075219
I made a dumb little video with this thing
https://youtu.be/E9vnYeONBs0

>>5076402
Sweeney

>>5076404
Anon, its mostly because no one gives a fuck for creating tools to rip Id models.

Even fucking facepunch and SFMlab is lazy nowadays to do that because its more easier to rip models from Overshit

>>5076460
Athena will be released after PGL, if the ruskie SFMfags futafags aren't interested in her model and looks for smut shit

then we are fucked and doomed with ad eternum anims on blender of Overwatch, Witcher and WoW

>>5076510
there's model rips of best girl and is very popular with one particular guy

duki nuki

>>5076534
dük nük

>>5075848
Is delta touch fine way to play lot of doom wads on the go?

>>5076539
douk

nouk

kem

>>5076543
Fuck year.

>>5076543
Дюкe Nюкeм

>>5076278
do you live in alaska or something?

>>5076580
Duque Nuquéalos

>>5076591
Dike Nike

Ashes 2063 is a great Doom 2 TC, but my only complaint is that I wish there was a version on the Build engine. Other than that, it's fucking solid.

>>5076396

>>5075850
ill tag this to news post too incase anyone else wants it

> https://www.dropbox.com/s/w87eb6j6oo3vct4/qc_snd_mus.zip?dl=1
> 1.35 gigs of sounds+music from Quack Champagne
> ripped from early version, does not include newer stuff, though does contain a lot of stuff related to newer stuff that was left unused

>>5076545
BRING IT IN

>>5076147
Hey, did you take it down? I kinda wanted to check your map out.

>>5076617
>>5076214

How to enable 120fps limit without vsync in crispy doom?

>>5076064
Opposing Force

I always thought the HECU were the coolest

>>5076361
the zappo success

>>5076091
the cleric lets you stunlock the bosses to death with fart clouds though and I think that's worth a lot

>>5076617
enable cleartype you fuck

>>5076617
>>5076147
>>5076184
>>5076231
mapper here, maybe I should tune it down a bit?
I'm masochist but I don't think it will be funny for the rest?

Honestly, Vores can go fuck themselves.

>>5076685
I didn't have too much trouble with it. Died once, but that was because I made a stupid mistake.
We can just place it a bit further back in the map order. Map06 or something. So you would logically have some inventory built up.

>>5076715
>Follows your path

>>5076715
Vores are cute. CUTE!!

>>5076598
where is bj's pain_100?

>>5076715
i want to facefuck a vore so bad

>>5076402
Carmack drives Ferraris and can choke people out. He might be kinda evil but he’s alpha as fuck

Any major changes in Aleph One 1.3? The only one I’ve noticed thus far is the long-anticipated move to SDL 2.

>>5075848
Not a regular to these threads, but I love doom, doom 2, and 2016.
But what’s the deal with doom 64? Barely anyone ever talks about it and it seems to be the ‘black sheep’ of the franchise. What’s the deal with that?

>>5076067
PLEASE MAKE HIM SELL DUKE
>PLEASE MAKE HIM SELL DOOK
PLEASE MAKE HIM SELL DOUK

>>5076763
not there, clearly
like i said, old rip, shits probably going to be missing

>>5076508
>Even fucking facepunch and SFMlab is lazy nowadays to do that because its more easier to rip models from Overshit
this
it's the same thing with spriters resource and related always focusing more on nintendo games

>>5076798
Where do you hear that?
Because from what i know, fans consider it to be "the real Doom 3"

Is D4T Crucible any good?
What makes it different from the original D4T?

What's the best way to play Quake 1 coop online?

>>5076541
can someone pls answer

>>5076715
I literally hate vores. They are ugly deformed spider chicks with no eyes. How do people want to fuck these things? I guess the promise of monster puss is a hell of a drug to make you forget those ugly mugs.

>>5076902
> vores are girls
wtf i love vores now

>>5076685
Demo recorder here. Don't let me stop you; it's not my place to say what you should have in a map. If that's the kind of gameplay you like, then that's what you like. Like any joke, there are some people who just don't find it funny.

>>5076902
You're in a dark dimension full of horrors and suffering
Of course you'll met ugly ass bitches

So I’ve been playing with that fork of prboom that lets people record their voice, and as neat as it is, I’m unable to record my own. Instead of getting a demo with the voice, I get a silent demo and a blank .ogg file. What’s wrong?

any good 3D FPS out there, 2D just doesnt cut it anymore, its just endless streams of DOOM clones

>>5076803
DUDE THIS HAS ME HYPED
IF HE HAS TO SELL DUKE, THAT MEANS 3D REALMS CAN LEGALLY RELEASE THE NEAR FINISHED VERSIONS OF DUKE NUKEM FOREVER, INCLUDING THE ONE LIKE DEUS EX
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCJDCKFUCKFUCF

>>5076949
When I had that problem, it was because it was picking up a different recording interface than the microphone I was using. In the recording tab of the sound menu, right click and disable everything other than the microphone you're using and try again.

>>5076952
Dark Forces 1 if you want something almost 3D, Jedi Knight if you want something FAST.

>>5076964
>20 years later we finaly get the real DNF
im wondering if the internet would explode or if no one would care if it got a proper release or leaked

>>5076067
What is this?

>>5076987
randy gets BTFO and millions are stolen from his personal banking account

>>5076975
I'd be pretty damn pleased. Supposedly it's 90% done

>>5076993
Well shit, they know who did it. He'll get most or all of the money back and his assistant will go to jail for like 25 years

>>5076997
both the 98 and 01 builds where 99% done with just some bug testing and fixes needed, only reason they got scrapped is because brossard kept changing engines and wanted the latest tech

Why is Icarus so bad at he game lmao
Looks like half the mods he doesn't like are because he dies too much

>>5076882
please respond

>>5076952
Quake 1

Anyone actually likes playing with IDDQD? Just for fun.

>>5077002
Fuckin release both.

>>5076993
And who is "randy" and why should we care?

>>5076683
how about I enable my dick in your ass

>>5077013
Direct connect with Quakespasm or just use ezquake

>>5077010
He plays a mod for a while, then cheats during the testing and spends some time editing videos
He doesn't have enough time and maybe even attention for it
I do wonder if he ever played Doom vanilla that isn't on a mod focused source port like GZDoom

>>5077002
Liar. The 98 build was like 10% done, and all the scenes from the trailer were staged.

>>5077031
>using netquake ports online
do you like pain

Not mine, someone else noticed it.
Thought i won't be surprised if it's a placeholder model like that face inside the Praetor suit model back in 2016.

>>5077053
so what do I use

>>5077079
I was referring to quakespasm there; ezquake is a quakeworld port and works fine
the problem with the netquake protocol is you have to wait for server confirmation *everything* that isn't turning. yes, even moving requires server confirmation. it is the fucking worst.

>>5076952
Half-Life and it's expansions.
Quake and its expansions.
Return To Castle Wolfenstein.

For 2.5D shooters which aren't Doom clones; Duke Nukem 3D, Blood, and Rise Of The Triad, all do their own thing mostly.

>>5077000
Only if they can find that money.

>>5077021
He owns Gearbox, who own the license to the Duke Nukem games.
People do not like how he is handling that license, so the prospect of him not having that license is very exciting to a lot of people.

>>5077071
>White male

REEEEEEEEE

What are some recommended doom WADS to play for this october my dudes.

>>5077109
Probably not the same thing, but maybe the halloween maps for Reelism

holy SHIT slash is faster in the PTS
I'm hitting 900+ ups without even trying

>>5077049
they where 90% complete stop talking out your ass and believing randy's lies

>>5076952
2,5D shooters are million times better than full 3D, where those ugly models/polygons look like fecals. And modern shooters suck badly.

>>5077121
I talked about the 98 Build, you virginal retard.

>>5077121
Fuck off, falseflagger.

>>5077071
then they'd have literally no reason to alter it. the original face model didn't even have a head top.

OFFICIAL Top10 List of the best Doom II maps:

1. The Living End
2. Industrial Zone
3. Circle of Death
4. Dead Simple
5. Monster Condo
6. Tenements
7. The Crusher
8. The Spirit World
9. The Abandoned Mines
10. The Waste Tunnels

>>5076868
Anyone?
Also, can you turn off the demon runes?

>>5077126
>>5077131
both the 98 build and 2001 build are 90% complete you fucking faggots

>>5077131
not that he isn't a faggot, but you have no idea what "falseflagger" means

>>5076598
are the gun skin sounds included?

>>5077169
The moddb page says it all

>>5077186
fuck you too faggot, Im gonna rip off your broomhandle and shit down your ass

i'm not gay but i wish i could suck duki nuki's diki

>>5077184
>>5077194
Brazillian detected.

>>5077195
>i'm not gay
Lie.

>>5077189
everything there was
> weapons
> fx
> voice lines
> announcer (lines from the boring old one included)
> map environment and ambient
> menu sounds
> music

>>5077204
i'm just craving for some duk nuk dik rn

>>5077195
SHAKE IT BABY

>>5077194
>shit down your ass

>>5077203
>doge
Redditor detected

>>5077213
>it's time to kick niggers and chew gum
wooooooooooooooo jesus duke wtf
how did 3DRealms get away with this

>>5077218
Better someone who mostly lurks reddit than the cancer that killed 1.6, though granted they're also in the lower rungs of society, especially with their opinions regarding certain longstanding games franchises.

>>5077231
>dude your a favelanigger LMAO
who hurt you? im not even on the shit continent that is the americas

>>5075848
Hey reactive crosshair/healthwarning/Babel guy, in case you're around

I found a bug while using Reactive Crosshair with Golden Souls 2, the WAD crashes leaving this error message:

VM execution aborted: tried to read from address zero.
Called from CrosshairSpawnerThing.WorldTick at reactive_crosshair.pk3:zscript.txt, line 119

Not sure if it's the only total conversion it crashes on like that, but just wanted to let you know

>>5077250
It seems to happen only when you mouse over certain textures, funnily enough (it doesn't crash on startup or anything, it loads maps, but if you point the crosshair at something it doesn't like, it crashes)

>>5077184
>[citation needed]

robutt outfits

>>5077286
here you go
CUDUX CRUO_________________________

>>5076793
Not yet, I'd give it a while to see if it goes anywhere

>>5077038
Kinda wondered that myself.

>>5077291
based

>>5077291
lol MARANAX PALLEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

>>5077328
heres the download link to MODERN ARTS AND FEAR BOOKS

>>5077025
we can discuss this

>>5077123
I generally regard 2.5D shooters higher, but there's lots of good 3D shooters out there.
Quake, just for starters.

Sure, the weapons, items and monsters, they're very blocky, but the gameplay is fucking sweet.

>D2Redux map 19
What a huge map.
Also used the soulcube a few times during this one.

>>5076598
thanks my guy

I love DOOM

Everyone talked about the redesigns in Doom 4/Eternal, but how about how these enemies play?
Like, their moves, attacks etc.

>>5077357
i think you don't

How does one install Quake 3 from the Mega in OP? The only thing in it is about 14 PK3 files

>>5077287
More like robuff, amirite?

i like to think that the d64 mancubus was supposed to be related to barons and hellknights but was rejected, so he became a mancubus

>>5077368
download ioquake3 or quake3e, make a baseq3 folder inside the port's folder if there isn't one already, shove the pk3s inside there

>>5077375
Neat. If I download ioquake is it possible for me to install CPMA on top and still play online? (if people even still play online, which I expect they do)

>>5077381
I think so; I've played CPMA online with a couple of my friends, but we were all using ioquake3 (including the server)
I don't see any reason it wouldn't work with other servers

>>5077287
where. is. bunny. suit?

Halloween has fast approached. What are some good spooky Doom mods to play?
The only one I know of is Unloved.

>>5077493
Hellground
Lilith
Innocence X
Nihilty
the Unloved 2 beta (has a pretty substantial amount of gameplay)

>>5077504
What's spooky about Lilith? It's just a glitchworld.

>>5077518
corruptions can be pretty spoopy

>>5077381
>is it possible for me to install CPMA on top and still play online?
use cnq3: https://playmorepromode.com/

>>5077493
Doxylamine Moon : Overdose
Deneb Colony
5TILL L1 COMPLEX
Object 34 : Sonar
Sacrament

>>5077585
How ded is CPMA nowadays?

Are there more people than in Reflex Arena/Xonotic/Quake Live, or are there even fewer?

Because this trailer really hyped me up even though I kind of suck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBKLEkWrHGQ

>>5077593
I don't think there are more people than in quake live
I play ut2004 though, I can tell you how dead that game is

>>5077593
the discord channel has 400 people online right now

Serious question: is Quake2 primarily Willits' game or Cloud's? Cloud mentions in gamasutra interview he was project director. I though Willits directed Q2?

>>5077161
1. the inmost dens
2. o of destruction
3. industrial zone
4. the abandoned mines
5. the living end
6. bloodfalls
7. tenements
8. the pit
9. underhalls
10. the gantlet

>>5077638
>abandoned mines > tenements
Why?

>>5077504
>>5077589
thanks lads

>>5076237
>>5076231
>>5076184
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvs1JEUPUvg

>>5077161
>1: The Living End (it's honestly really good)
>2: The Spirit World
>3: Sphincter Of Rupture
>4: Barrels O' Fun
>5: Tricks & Traps
>6: The Crusher
>7: Refueling Base
>8: Chasm
>9: The Citadel
>10: Dead Simple
I'm really bad at ranking favorites, so I maybe like some of these more than the others, in spite of the numbering.

>>5077684
The Living End is overrated. It's completely linear, plus it has annoying ledges & tight platforms.

>>5077694
It uses linearity well, and it's the leadup to the final map, so I'm fine with it.
I have nothing against the ledges (which aren't very narrow at all), because I'm not a klutz.

>>5077684
>>9: The Citadel
>anywhere close to a "best" list
Opinion discarded.

>>5077638
Bloodfalls literally looks like a map that was made by an 5 year Down Syndrome kid.

>>5077739
you're a retard that's unable to appreciate good gameplay. just an all round faggot in general desu

stealth monsters

>>5077680
Sweet run. That's something that always bothered me when people complained a map is too easy. Just speed that shit up.

>>5076214
Cool. Everything seems fixed now. I like it.
>the midi is inside the wad
Ah. I was playing in PRBoom+, which doesn't read MAPINFO lumps.

>>5077589
Or you could have just told him "Go play Lainos wads!"

>>5077780

>>5077680
I should have suspected you were playing with mouselook. Sniping those chaingunners and that archie in the atrium is impossible without it, along with being able to take cover behind the lift at the front of the atrium aiming directly down at the enemies.

Also, said lift doesn't work in PRBoom, so baiting enemies and running back for cover is impossible.

>>5077831
it doesn't work here >>5076214 ?

>>5077737
To tell you the truth, I really was struggling to come up with ones I liked by that point.
There's like 8 maps in Doom 2 which I really like a lot, but then I realized I had to really stop and think about what the other two would be, basically pondering which of them which were "the most ok".
I suppose I'd also say Courtyard and Gotcha! for 9 and 10. I kind of like them, but I don't love them, like I do say, Bagel Of Deletion, or Spirit World.

>>5077739
IMO it's one of the weaker levels

>>5077818
That's what I said. I pointed him to some of his best stuff.
Still Complex and Doxylamine Moon are masterpieces of gloom.

shoot shitem

So 4chan is finally working again?

>>5077873
no, you're dead

>>5077880
NANI!?

If 4chan is no longer dead please post the wad you are currently playing

>>5077943

fuck

How would you rate Blood episodes from best to worst?

>>5077981
Cryptic Passage > First Episode

>>5077943
Just finished Ashlands. The ending felt like the maker wanted to be done with the project and the boss was as lame as any Doom 90s fps boss is (His voicelines were cool, though) but it was a nice little mod nonetheless. The formula could work better in some more open world-y thing, though.

>>5077984
wait nevermind they're both beautiful

>>5077981
2: Even Death May Die > Cryptic Passage > 1: The Way Of All Flesh > 4: Dead Reckoning > Post Mortem > 3: A Farewell To Arms

E2 is the best hands-down. Every level in that episode is so much fun to roam around in. The secret level kind of sucks but that's pretty much it. The insane Bates/Shining motel level with 15 secrets absolutely takes the cake.

E3 had a lot of potential with the urban levels in the beginning, but like half of the levels were fucking slogs like sewers or generic industrial areas.

Death Wish is the best though

>>5077943
DTWID-LE

>>5077981
Post Mortem > 2 > 3 > 4 > Cryptic Passage > 1

>>5076306
i know nothing of spriting but consider going with a sprite that gets smaller on attack instead of that shitty poke looking thing. this reminds me of the daggerfall staff, it would just feel like crap

Is Strife good?

>>5078027
Are YOU good?

Someday some true madman will come
and in his wake he will release the Quake equivalent of DoomRL

at least Slymy lichmummy has chainsaw ogres

real fun right here

>>5078040
whats up with that nailgun

>>5078042
it's a pod racer

>>5078042
arcane dimension model

>>5078046
Wow. Such an improvement over the original one.

>>5078043
keked

>>5078043
id kart when

>>5078032
I am good.

>>5076598
piggybacking off this post, I worked this handy rar in the particular scenario somebody like me would only be interested in the D2 SSG sounds alone.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rBmYb8k3xgphmdLjTHlBFJsc3rvPFM_d

one minor alteration made to DSDBOPN, I did away with the one-second-long silence portion at the start.

also gain output on both DSDSHTGN files was slightly increased. you'll wonder why there are two of them; the alt variant simply includes the file 'qk_wpn_shotgun_shot_tail_rnd_04' for reverb effect.

also, akin to per kristian's rework of the classic SSG, for both files I simply slapped on top this sound file named 'qk_wpn_shotgun_shot_shutter' to give them a light starting thud.

>>5078027
Meh. Story / art / voice acting is great. Level design is solid. Some say it's confusing but the game gives you voice-acted instructions and an objectives pop-up so not really. The combat is the real weak point, unsatisfying weapons and too many hitscanners.

>>5078087
you are a good man.

>>5076668
this is very cool
lightning gun bfg replacement when

>>5076964
>one like deus ex
if this is true my hype is through the floor. why would this be a good thing? deus ex is worse than the "modern" duke forever, as far as being a shooter is concerned. and it would please absolutely nobody but you apparently

Covering locked in position

>>5078087
based

should I throw the func_xmasjam2017 inside ad or is there another clean way?

>>5077159
any bets that we will see helmetless doomguy at one point, but using the QC model with a better definition.

because it kinda looks like as a homage.

holy shit the sniper rifle in hideous destructor is a fucking joke

>>5078107
>implying you need to have Deus Ex's shooting mechanics of absolutely all things to be like Deus Ex
are you nuts?

>>5078172
>Protip: It is nothing short of murder to send out men against the enemy with such a weapon. Find a Liberator.
Yes, it literally is. He added it for Veteran's Day as a reference to the Ross rifle, known for being really accurate but getting fucked up by even the slightest bit of dirt.

>>5078187
b-but I like the sniper rifle
bolt actions are super fun

>>5078191
You'll be happy to hear there's been talks of adding a more reliable variant or just increasing the reliability in general lately, then. It'd still mostly be a worse Liberator, but at least it won't jam every one in four shots anymore.

>>5078187
not just that but the damage output is negligible

>>5078206
It's actually a little better per-shot than the Liberator, but since it fires so much more slowly, it's still not very impressive. Aim for center mass so you can crit and do more damage. It'll oneshot imps usually.

>>5078109
But does she dream of electric sheep?

Decided to work on Armagon's death state today. Still a work in progress.

>>5077834
Yeah, it works there. My bad, I missed that.

>>5078109
>exited for buff tomboy
>its a robot with ayylmao skin color
dangit

>>5077493
Atmosfear
Soundless Mound
Unhinged
Nightomb

>>5077943
I'm not playing a wad right now.

I'm making one. babby's first wad to go with babby's first monsterset to go with babby's first weaponset.

>>5078218
Shouldn't be that hard to do a personal edit of edit her sprites to being more normal.

>>5078027
It's really cool, but it's ultimately kind of short.
By the time you're REALLY getting into the groove of the game, there isn't that much left.

I'd say it feels like they probably wanted to do more, but ended up cutting the game shorter to meet deadline.
It's a shame the game is such a hardcoded bitch, because that makes it very bothersome to make custom content for it, even just levels.

here's your imp bro

>>5078293
[GLASS HER]

>>5078293
>individual iron sights for each barrel
nah

>>5078301
>her

>>5078303
Well how do you know he's not holding two shotguns together?

I can't...

>>5078351
He's the one pure soul in a wretched world.

>>5078301
>her

>>5078351

>playing xmasjam17
>final wave before the end of the map
>shambles and ogres everywhere
>jewtube plays this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcS8CJwHfqI
that was different

>>5078293
Who keeps drawing these?

>>5078040
Blind elevator traps are 0/10 level design.

What are some spooky doom wads?

>>5078573
there was a crate right there. if he hadn't haphazardly jumped for the quad like a fool, he could have easily avoided the shambler's lightning.

>>5078040
>smashed
>clearly zapped

>>5078580
there are 4 scrags right behind

>>5078585
>happy July 4

The City Of The Damned Apocalypse is a prime example of a wad that looks great but plays like shit.

>>5078578
it always helps to read the thread
>>5077504
>>5077589
>>5078234

>>5078509
ai do wonders with images, why it can't fix that crackling noise?

>>5078628
>you will be dead by the time the AI can remake retro games
ending it right now

>>5078580
Yes, a crate makes up for the player being assaulted by heaps of information entering a new area, while not having any time to adapt due to being attacked instantly with no option of retreat.

>>5078631
>the AI
we daedalus now

>>5078643
solution: gain ESP

>>5076286
Why does Marathon even need its own engine? Can't the entire thing be put in a WAD? It's not like it does anything Doom can't

>>5077950
>AKIRA
Okay, I'll bite, what wad is this

>>5078663
Diabolus Ex

>>5078664
That's kinda rad
Thanks amemego

>>5077943
2lazy to screenshot but MAP20 of 200minvr

>>5078654
They had something to prove back then

>>5078654
Marathon could do impossible architecture before Doom could.

>>5078109
Is there any, perchance, to resolve this? Using it with Brutal DoomMonsters Only v20, by the way. Previous LTG versions (the ones without the enhanced chasecam IIRC) didn't have this issue.

unlimited senate
i am the power

Is there actual documentation for GDCC? Got the compiler up and running and replaced the old ACC in SLADE, but don't know where to begin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHH5qeDTvv0

Is Unloved supposed to be completable on normal difficulty because I can't take another second of this fucking Arch-vile spam. Ive literally never gotten passed that church area with the second trigger that spawns 5 Arch-viles with one of them being spawned in the center of a massive pile of bodies. I thought I would be able to do it this time after like 5 years of practicing but I still can't do it.

>>5078825
Wad?

so this got released on GOG. what becomes of the community version?

>>5078867
oh fuck that's right, i gotta re-dl that

>>5076668
Damn, man, that's neato-beans.

>>5078859
stuff im working on

>>5078867
not compatible?

>>5078109
But why though? She's an Android, shouldn't she have "Barbie Doll Anatomy"?

>>5078351
Damn, that stretched-ass UV on his shoulder.

>D2Redux has a death exit on map 20
Well, just lost all those codex entries.

>>5076067
HAHAHAHA FUCK YOU BITCHFORD THIS IS WHAT YOU DESERVE

>>5078026
Well yeah I'm going with how Heretic's staff works. Those sprites shrink as you reach out for a poke.

Brutal doom 64 is so damn good
Much better and more beautiful than regular brutal doom
Just amazing with zaero, valhalla and putrefier

>>5076067
I guess Randy better start earning some cash if he wants to stay in business..
I pray for the love of god that they don't rape Douk any further

>>5078303
>no fun allowed

Why is the 99% of the user made content so vomit inducing? Are the basement dwellers lacking in talent compared to pros? Romero's new maps felt like a different league in terms of visuals and playability to the sprawling, scatterbrained hackwork of the """community"""".

>>5079060
Well, why not make some maps then?

>>5079060
romero's maps are nothing special though, especially e1m4b (which could practically be defined by "and then shotgunners pop out")
never understood the fascination behind them

>>5079060

That's just how fan works roll.

>>5079060
Great Bait 8/8

>>5079060
You probably just haven't played any user made maps beyond one back in the 90s.

most of the serious mapsets made today blow Romero out of the water.

>>5079060
Please list of your top 5 best maps and top 5 of your worst maps.

>>5079081
*post a list

>>5079060
I already replied but I must give credit for the uneven amount of quotes on community. I mean implying this is hardly a community to begin with was an interesting go but the amount of quotes on the word really put us in our place. This’ll make a good copypasta.

flies on shit

>>5079060
It's more like "50% of community-made maps are better than 50% of OG D1 and D2 maps"

>>5079086
good post, thanks for sharing

REEL LIGHTNING

>>5079081
Best: E1M8b, E1M4b
Worst: Everything that has one of the following:
>shitty copycats of original maps, """"way id did"""" and others.... """"hey, is this a Romero style?""""... no fucktard, you are a pussycat who imitate a lion
>shitty hodgepodge design elements copied from other games.... """"hey, put a shitty version of the cultist to Doom, that will look gud""""
>>let's pour all the sprawling, scatterbrained clustershit together, it will show the mapper has """"talent""""
>slaughterfest idiocy.... """"hey, if I put 30 revenants and 75 chaingunners in one map, it will be fun""""
>stoopid backtracking, confusing layout.... """""hey, put a switch here, it will open an unrelated door on the otherside of the map"""""

>>5079106
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""you"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>>5079104
UNLIMITED POWER!

@5079060
>this post got 8 (you)s
How gullible is /doom? Good lord.

>>5079112
good post, that'll show them

>>5078293
Does anybody have the other similar pic(s)?

This thread is comedy gold!

https://my.mixtape.moe/rkeaya.mp3

doom.wad loaded in Audacity as raw data

>>5079157
Now do it for the rest of the iwads. Someone would probably get a kick out of this.

>>5079081
Best - Diabolus Ex
Worst - the other wads and original levels

>>5078801

Well if it only happens with the monster pack that means that something in the monster pack is preventing the chase cam from spawning

if it happens without it, then your download must have been goof'd

Try toying with load orders

>>5079157
doom get a virus

>>5078216
Awesome

>>5079104
>Hit enemy with it
>7777777777777777777777777777777

>>5079127
artist anime is combos-and-doodles on tumblr

>>5079269
>anime
name*

>>5079104
I have a request. Use the Damage Numbers wad, and use it on an enemy. I want to see how much damage it does.

>>5079287
...
aight

>>5079287
>>5079289
i looked up the Q3 LG stats just for this
has the exact damage and firerate, with some decimal carrying to get the dps down precisely

what maps/wads do "running around cities/streets" well?
I need some inspiration

>>5079386
Comatose? MarkIV's maps?

>>5079357
I'm surprised that doesn't lag with the amount of particles you have there

>>5075954
Oh shit, I've been waiting for something like this! Wish I saw this yesterday, I would have had something to do while 4chan was down.
Ok gimme a sec, I'm gonna try to come up with something neat

>>5079157
That's interesting. You made me curious, and now I've tried it on Quake 1's Pak0 and Pak1 files.

Pak0
https://my.mixtape.moe/detais.mp3

Pak1
https://my.mixtape.moe/xlzoth.mp3

>>5076715
Vores are honestly one of my favorite enemies in quake. They're not another generic enemy that fires a projectile in a straight path but don't have the questional balance of a hitscanner.

>>5079546
Enemies in Quake and Doom are always interesting, because how they play can affect how the player plays, which leads to strats on how to take care of them

>>5079521
each beam segment is only 6 actors
the center part is stretched, the ends have half circles
using a pair of flat sprites to make them all 3d

>>5077161
>>5077638
>people like waste tunnels and gantlet
jesus christ
also why can't american mcgee spell guantlet

>>5079672
>also why can't american mcgee spell guantlet
this meme again?

>>5079672
There aren't any grammar books in the ocean, anon.

>wanted to do a map for the xmasjam18
>play xmasjam17 to have a glance of what people expect
this surpasses me

>>5079672
why can’t you?

>>5079672
You mean Gauntlet?

>>5077950
what HUD? i like the portrait

Babby Dimensions XDDDD

Ne-HUH-ra )))))))

>D2Redux Barrels o' Fun
I give up.

>>5079674
>>5079675
>>5079683
>>5079685
Wow I'm a fucking idiot.
Seriously though i get annoyed everytime i start that map, gantlets never learn.

>>5079696
why did I laugh at this

>>5079204
Hmm. Loading LTG first before BDMO did the remedy (I was used to loading enemy mods first before weapons), but fingers are still crossed because you know, "lel bretel deem".

We should get together for a little Quake MP (original, 3, Live; doesn't matter) one of these days. I've seen UT get played frequently enough, but outside of single player content Quake doesn't get much attention.

>>5079773
I could host a server (it's in NJ, so east coast) for quake 3 or live pretty easily, although I'm not very knowledgeable in server administration so I'll likely fuck up configuring it
I don't know much about quake 2 (besides "host with lithium" I guess) so I'd probably fuck things up even harder, and I don't think I ever got KTX (quakeworld server mod) going right to begin with

>>5079783
also if anyone has any recommended map packs that'd be great, especially if going with quakeworld/quake 2
I doubt anyone wants a 16 man DM4/aerowalk fuckfest

>>5079785
I think if we did anything quake related it'd be a good idea to consider focusing around the mods. Vanilla DM/TDM can get dull after a minute, but could be spiced up with maybe a mod rotation. For example one week we could be playing Team Fortress, Action Quake the next.

>>5079797
that route rules out quake live, at any rate
see, if this were a physical lan party, the solution would be obvious; just do all of them, and let people join whichever ones they want. but without any physical presence, it wouldn't really work, y'know? an IRC channel or discord server wouldn't be the same, since you wouldn't be able to mingle and watch other people play, and even if you could, you're still sitting at your computer with no one else around in the end.

an actual lan party would be super cool, but let's be real

Vores are actually males you fucking retards

>>5077943
k

>>5079829
What mod?
Or rather mods, just in case?

>>5079835
helstrum with colorful hell

>>5079849
Does CH have a D64 Pain Elemental now?

>>5079773
I’m always up for that, but getting matches for even doom is difficult

>>5079883
In this general, I mean. Anyway, what are the best multiplayer ports for each quake? Ezquake? Yamagi? ioquake?

>>5079773
Seconding for some fine Quake World. or Bloodbath / BloodGDX mp

>>5079887
for quakeworld, ezquake is pretty much the go-to, yeah
for quake 2 multiplayer, you want q2pro or r1q2 instead of yamagi; yamagi chokes on server downloads for some reason, and q2pro/r1q2 have more customization options
for quake 3, ioquake3 or quake3e works, choose whichever one has better mouse movement in your opinion

>>5079063
>romero's maps are nothing special though, especially e1m4b (which could practically be defined by "and then shotgunners pop out")

Ugly response to an ugly post. Romero's new levels are amazing, and Phobos Mission Control is no exception.

>>5079672
Visually the only good levels in Doom II are Map 6, Map 11, Map 17, Map 27 and Map 29.

Had an idea for a MetaDoom inspired level
Those martian temple discovery sites from Doom 3 with bits from TNT's Lunar Mining Project

weird how doom 64's zombiemen and shotgunner share the same sprite

>>5079060
Post a map you've made champ. Please, I'd love to see what an expert such as yourself can produce.

How to activate opengl renderer in gzdoom? Im playing pirate doom and game killing me at second map cuz of "deactivated opengl renderer"

>>5079995
yeah it makes it kinda difficult to know what your priority should be when they're in a group.

>>5080045
options -> change rendering output

>>5080045
install gzdoom 3.3.2

Can you play total conversion wads on chocolate doom for the vita?

Anybody know where one can find SP missions for Outlaws? I found some but all the links were ded

>>5079936
the levels are fine, despite having only four monsters to work with - the way e1m4b opened up was pretty neat, even if the shotgunner ambushes became so predictable that they weren't even threatening anymore
that doesn't make them special though, especially not compared to things like BTSX E1 (which came out four years before e1m8b), and if it didn't have romero's name on it, people would just say it's a good map and be done with it

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=15631&start=1350#p1074529
someone made a spriteset for the resurrection of evil bruiser
it's pretty much an edit on the cybruiser and he's not as close to the original, with the horns being an example
but otherwise, if it's the closest we get, it looks fine by what it is
maybe something that means we might be close enough and it's not like the bruiser in itself was just a mechanized hellknight with a tv mouth

>>5078801
what's that hud mod?

>>5079892
I'm a bit late to respond, but I'd be totally down for a quick bloodgdxbath right now. I can even try to host the server if need be, but my internet's not the best and I've had some issues with port forwarding.

what source ports for quake have music?

>>5080114
the ones that you add music to

>>5080116
does quake spasm have a retard proof way to do this

>>5080117
create a "music" folder inside the id folder and paste your .ogg, .mp3 or .wav inside

Should i play alien vendetta with pistol starts?

>>5080117
>>5080120
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=119489135

>>5079995
>>5080048

They're slightly different, they have different colored pants

>>5080121
It has Compet-N times, so yes. In general, almost every megawad is balanced around pistol start because it's nearly impossible to guarantee balance around continuous throughout 32 maps. In fact, I'd say all mapsets in general should be played pistol start unless the readme states otherwise.

>>5080126
dont you mean shirts?
i thought the baron and hk were the ones with different pants

any good obscure shooters?

Can i play no rest for the living with doom retro?

>>5080198
If Doom Retro can load pwads, I don't see why you couldn't.

>>5080198
Yes you can. Doom Retro even seperates it into it's own Episode. Just load NERVE.WAD with Doom II

is wrath of chronos the doom mod with the best casting system?

How do I use doomrpg with super shotgun launcher? This thing is a mess

slow news day?