/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

-Some elements in the OP (not the news) need some updating
-Quaddicted no longer blocking EU IPs, but still seeking help for GDPR compliance

=== NEWS ===

[09-28] La Tailor Girl's 1.68.99 release available
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=300#p1074206

[09-16] Doom Delta 2.0 released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmRBcbP5q5k

[09-15] Anon's quickstart map updated to support more Heretic, Hexen, and Strife IWADs
https://my.mixtape.moe/ykpkoh.pk3

[09-14] RedneckGDX released (fixed link)
https://m210.duke4.net/index.php/downloads/download/8-java/52-redneckgdx

[09-13] SM187 for Quake released, 4 hour speedmaps
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61629

[09-11] id Tech 1 mapping tool 'Eureka Editor' updated
http://eureka-editor.sourceforge.net/

[09-10] John Anderson, author of Ultimate Doom's E4M7 and other maps, passed away back in April
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/43010-where-is-dr-sleep/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-1916824

[09-07] System Shock Enhanced Edition's source port update released, including official support for mods
https://steamcommunity.com/games/410710/announcements/detail/3098929145092416976

[09-06] LOTX milestone 3, project put on hold
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ymtpoqmqbur88l6/LOTX-milestone3.rar?dl=0

[09-02] DAKKA SSG revamp in latest alpha
http://jinotra.in/downloads/mods/doom/dakka/dakka-0.10alpha-2018-09-02.pk3

[09-02] Audio level rework in new pre-release version of Babel
https://my.mixtape.moe/mrcokp.pk3

=== PREVIOUS ===

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=== PROTIP ===

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>>5069190
>On the internet, nobody knows you're a skeleton.

Romero is a beaner
that is all

Quake would have been more interesting IMO if the game removed your DB-shotty, SNG, and RL from the previous level when entering the next one.

>>5069320
kill yourself. Not personally. But in game lol

>>5069323
ECKS

>>5069320
The Quake Double Shotgun isn't that special, so I don't see the point in taking it away.

>>5069320
You're so close to realizing that Quake (and Doom and other old school FPS) are best when you pistol start. Just do it. Take the plunge. You'll be glad you did.

Finished Quake and moved onto Quake 2.

WTF happened? I dont like this at all

>>5069335

>>5069380
Quake 1 is an amazing game, the sequels never lived up to it. Aside from the great physics and feel, the cuthulian horror intermingled with medieval setting was emergent from the team and not originally their goal, so i guess it makes sense we didn't get more of it.

>>5068689
Thanks for the demo! I'll watch it as soon as I get home. All fair points you made.
I wanted the last fight to be a bit tougher, but I ran out of time for monster placement. Probably could've sprinkled some more pinkies in and maybe some barrels or some such in the 30 seconds I might've had left, but I was trying to be strict about the time limit.
The map is too large, really. Ideally I think you'd want to make a small map with opening pathways to traverse the area in new ways, or find a gimmick and stick with it.

Next time.

>>5069380
they made a sci fi shooter and slapped the Quake name on it

Is it just me, but Tim Willits and Americunt McGee have the same bland, blocky mapping style? If they say Attack or Canyon from "Master" levels are McGee I would believe it.

Any news on that Samsara monster addon?

>>5069447
>talking shit about Tim Willits
You'd better start running, kiddo

>>5069457
don't deathmatch him, heard he invented the mode

>>5069457
Tell me one good Willits level for Doom. At least The Crusher was decent by Americunt.

>>5069447
The McGee-ish parts of Attack/Canyon are Theresa Chasar's. Early Willits is very loopy and spacious. Quake's Willits is Wind Tunnels and Necropolis.

>>5069461
He invented everything, guns, monsters, the works.

In his heart he knows the rest of id were lucky to be allowed to bask in his glorious shadow.

>>5069473
Empire1.wad
That's literally the only good Willits' Doom level.
It looks like a complete piece of shit though. Like eyebleedingly bad. But it's very unpredictable and entertaining.

>>5069482
And yet Necropolis, Wind Tunnels and Sewage System (which is pretty much proto-Q2) are legit good levels.

>>5069473
>The Crusher
an abomination

>>5069375
I know Doom is very well balanced for pistol starts, but is the same true for Quake?

>>5069380
>>5069398
I still want them to unite both universes in a coherent way.

>>5069497
It's very complicated starting quake with a pistol

>>5069473
>>5069487
Was the Spider Mastermind's humilliation in that level id's way of acknowledging how poor of a final boss it was?

>>5069502
Why? The Strogg are a thousand times less interesting than the Eldritch horrors from other dimensions that invade the Earth in Quake.

>>5069497
Not for Petersen's maps (well, you can shotgunstart E4M2, but that's it) due to him only handing each gun strictly once over the course of his entire episode. The other three leveldesigners, however, do seem to allow shotgunstarts.

>>5069506
>how poor of a final boss
the last map didn't help it

>>5069508
Not this shit again. Why are lovecraftfags such an arrogant bunch?

>>5069506
There is literally nothing wrong with Spider Mastermind's Doom1 bossfight IF you pistolstart it. In fact, it's pretty fucking neat, although you can make an irrecoverable (other than by starting the map over again) mistake while doing it.

>>5069508
>>5069514
/v/iggers need to leave.

>>5069514
How is this arrogant? That's just a fact.

>>5069528
Fact by only hte matter of Creatures, Quake 1 and Quake 2 has dull level detailing imo, Q1 is mostly Castle after Castle or Stronghold after Stronghold, Quake 2 also does the same repetition but with the Strogg architecture, mind that i'm not saying the level design is poor, just the visuals that are.

Quake only got decent visuals in the maps after Quake 3, but then Q3 has the Lovecraftian architecture but not the creatures, and Quake 4 Stroggs are alot more variant in their buildings.

[Spoiler]Quake Champions does a regression because the maps only have nice skyboxes and that's it.[/spoiler]

>>5069514
/vg/ of late is being raded by autistic linux and weirdo retrofags of late who keeps derailing threads

just ignore and move on

>>5069553
i mean /vr/

>>5069542
And i missed the spoiler tag

>>5069553
the specific groups of people you don't like are joining forces to ruin your experience on this board

>>5069553
>implying this thread hasn't been garbage since the doom eternal gameplay trailer

>>5069320
You can take my Super Nailgun from my cold, dead, hands.

>>5069514
It's always been popular to shit on Quake 2 on /vr/, which I think it doesn't deserve, but the first Quake was always a cooler and more interesting setting, even if I don't hate Quake 2's setting.

>>5069528
>That's just a fact.
You answered it yourself. Cthulhu Mythos are cool and all, but fags acting like it's the ultimate thing ever and shit on everything else get annoying fast. Besides, body horror cyborgs are a pretty cool trope on their own.

>>5069542
Quake 3 visuals are underrated, it's the perfect mix of the previous styles but with a much more appealing touch.

>>5069601
Quake 2 has a lot of things to criticize, but some people here often take it to ridiculous levels just to show some bizarre retro street cred.

>>5069514
holy shit why are you such a thin-skinned bitch

people are allowed to like the lovecraft theme of quake 1

>>5069447
Willits barely did any levels for Doom, but I thought they were ok. His Quake levels are quite good.
American's levels ranged from alright to above average.

>>5069487
The Crusher is a good level.

>>5069506
I think they just wanted to give the players the novelty of squashing a big monster. Don't read too much into it.

>>5069617
I think he has some kind of inferiority complex over Quake 2, for some reason.

>>5069617
Nice strawman.

>>5069620
>The Crusher is a good level.
don't reply to me or my cacodemon ever again

>>5069617
because he's shitposting and faggots like you keep falling for it

>>5069502
>>5069508
I think the slipgate horrors should be separate from the Strogg, you'd be just doing them all a disservice by trying to mash them together.

>>5069625
That's not a strawman.

>>5069626
I'll pet ur fookin Caco, m8
swear on me mum

>>5069623
No, just annoyed by dumb arguments. Criticize the slow enemies, the hub design, the lack of muzzle flashes. You know, the actual shit.

>>5069627
Guys defending things you don't like isn't shitposting.

Can I get a quick gestalt on the different "vanilla" source ports like PrBoom, Chocolate and Classic DOOM?
Which is better for a "near vanilla" experience?

>>5069516
Most people will never even think to pistol start Doom though, so as a bossfight, he is what he is.

>>5069632
I like the levels and enemies in Quake 2.

>>5069630
It is. You implied the argument was about not letting you like Quake 1, when it was about not acting as if lovecraftian stuff was the ultimate be it and be all of styles, while shitting on another style that frankly is pretty cool on it's own.

>>5069628
It would be quite a daunting task to mix them both and not have a shit mishmash.

>>5069625
you don't actually know what a strawman is, do you?

>>5069642
>You implied the argument was about not letting you like Quake 1
Not me.
>when it was about not acting as if lovecraftian stuff was the ultimate be it and be all of styles, while shitting on another style that frankly is pretty cool on it's own.
Not even what the poster you whined against said.
He just said it was less interesting, not that it was the ultimate or that it was uncool.

You want to act like the posting police, but YOU are the problem, here.

>>5069648
>Why? The Strogg are a thousand times less interesting than the Eldritch horrors from other dimensions that invade the Earth in Quake.
And a later post even got deleted for implying opinions as facts. Don't be disingenuous.

>>5069656
Yes. He just said it was less interesting, not that it was the ultimate or that it was uncool.
Nothing more. Nothing less.

YOU are the problem, here.

>>5069648
Those are just two anons tossing shit at each other over their respective tastes. Nothing out of the ordinary.

>>5069661
>Yes. He just said it was less interesting, not that it was the ultimate or that it was uncool.
Nothing more. Nothing less.
A "thousand times" gives a bit more strength to the post, wouldn't you say? Enough to warrant a slightly more heated

>YOU are the problem, here.
Oh, woe me.

>>5069664
*a slightly more heated reply

>>5069664
He could have said ten thousand times, or a million times, or a billion times, that doesn't change anything.

>>5069664
>>5069668
>Enough to warrant a slightly more heated reply
then allow me to repost my thoughts on the matter

holy shit why are you such a thin-skinned bitch

people are allowed to like the lovecraft theme of quake 1

>>5069670
>people are allowed to like the lovecraft theme of quake 1
Which no one ever tried to stop. Thank you!

>>5069670
holy shit why are you such a thin-skinned bitch

people are allowed to prefer quake 2 shit over quake 1 shit

This is beyond mere shitflinging, this is a goddamn raid.

Just settle this in Quake Arena Generations, dudes

>>5069671
>>5069674
>exactly one minute apart
a lost cause, i see

>>5069674
>>5069671
>one minute apart

>>5069681
>>5069683
Detective anon on the case!

anons iffy uh
JANNIES GOT A STIFFY UH
MODS MAKE A STICKY UH
DOOOOOOOOOOM GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNG

>>5069684
don't worry, i'll figure out their writing styles and see who came in from completely unrelated topics

>>5069684
>The redditor is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a faggot, normie, underage, shitposter, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a redditor and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

>>5069664
I'm the anon whose post was deleted, for some reason. Not sure which.
Anyway, ask anyone who's played both Q1 and Q2 and the vast majority will tell you the monsters in Q1 were far more memorable.

Why fight when you can be brothers in HUH together?

>>5069702
They were, though I'd argue more for their gameplay than the style (except for the Shambler and Fiend, love those fuckers). Strogg are way too slow, which I'd say it's the problem with a more advanced game giving longer, elaborate animations to its monsters.

>>5069685
Jannies are iffy faggot anons got the blicky they drum it now holds fifty

>>5069705
The Strogg are just very generic for the most part. The most memorable were probably the Icarus and Hornet because they had cool equipment. Some of them border on the laughably bad, like the big guys equipped with Railguns whose name I forget.

>>5069617
people shit on quake 2 just as much if not more often.
this exact same defense operates both ways.

>>5069710
I wouldn't call body horror cyborgs generic, really. It's not like they're stormtrooper wannabes, or other stuff one could really say it's more overused sci-fi stuff.

>Some of them border on the laughably bad, like the big guys equipped with Railguns whose name I forget.
The Gladiators?

>>5069716
>people shitting on quake 1
>sure okay whatever
>people shitting on quake 2
>WHY ARE LOVECRAFTFAGS SO ARROGANT?????

>>5069717
The problem is that the body horror thing is extremely superficial. They'd have been more interesting if they really went there. Instead you just have machines with a few fleshy bits and that's about it.

>>5069718
Both sides had guys getting heated over their respective games. The fact that you rushed to defend Q1 means that it wasn't "sure okay whatever".

>>5069718
looks to be a personal problem.

>>5069727
i ain't even play quake, i'm a buildfag

>>5069728
gottem

>>5069380
Too many hitscanners, unsatisfying combat, boring lighting, boring textures, visually boring enemies
>inb4 people say BUT MUH BODY HORROR
That doesn't even register actually looking at them. They just look like generic robots and cyborgs.

>>5069734
>gottem
what now?

>>5069725
True. Though frankly there were some interesting designs here and there, like the Brains enemies. It wasn't until Q4 that the designs became more repetitive.

>>5069734
you aint even speak english

>>5069735
>Too many hitscanners, unsatisfying combat, boring lighting, boring textures, visually boring enemies
I like the cyborgs and feel you are oversimplyfing things to make them easier to attack, but I agree 100% with you here.

>>5069735
Im only a few levels in but the levels feel far too long. The grenade is fucking terrible and so slow. But i love the super shotgun.

The enemies are kinda janky but i like that you see them take damage. Which is funny that this is the new revolutionary thing Doom Eternal is doing now.

>>5069740
hey, if you've run out of arguments, fine by me
just next time, call me a faggot, it's faster

I like both Quake 1 and 2.

>>5069745
Explosive weapons were pretty OP in Quake 1 (mostly the RL), so they got nerfed hard in the sequel.

>>5069749
They're cool games.

>>5069745
it is in contrast to the way they would simply plop to the ground in the first game. they didn't go about it for too long anyways.

>>5069748
except there is no argument to fend for here. you looking to be offended to justify your tirade or something?

>>5069725
>The problem is that the body horror thing is extremely superficial.
I'd say this is where this comes into play >>5069745
The Tank showing a Terminator-like metallic skull behind it's fleshy face once it had taken enough damage was pretty cool.

>>5069748
faggot.

>>5069760
you, i like you

>>5069757
>you looking to be offended to justify your tirade or something?
???????
nigger what
you confusing me with some other faggot

>>5069763
>you, i like you
faggot

>>5069765
no way, you gay

seems the choice is clear, heh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFgGzDrj7OM

>>5069763
what are you so up in arms about anyways?

>>5069767
Not a chance, fancypants.

>>5069770

Think again, cakeboy.

>>5069763
and you replied to me calling me out on my lack of arguments despite the fact that i wasnt even the same guy lol

>>5069768
The Tank by itself should be able to beat a Shambler handily due to higher stats, I don't see why they had to give it this weird cannon melee attack that wasn't in the original game.

>>5069774
we're all faggots together, then

did quake 3 ever get any single player mods of note?

>>5069784
>>5069680

>>5069784
there's that one puzzle map by sock, but that's all I can think of
i recall that making singleplayer things for it was very hard

>>5069784
>>5069785
oh wait, you said single player
nevermind, though i guess you could still play it with bots

>>5069784
there's that hunter's doom mod, takes after the aesthetics of q3. but it's unfinished, can and will tank your toaster, and frankly doesn't play very good.

>>5069789
feet

>>5069784
I'm still mad Quake 3 didn't get any sort of proper single player campaign.

>>5069784
American McGee's Alice

>>5069797
Jedi Outcast was the pinnacle of idTech 3 and no one will convince me otherwise.

>>5069798
That series is amazing in general. Does the Dark Forces sourceport actually work now? I think I remember some anons talking about it some threads ago.

>>5069628
I dunno, Scourge of Armagon gives some interesting possibilities.

>>5069791
is a decent fetish when it isn't literally shoved right up your business, isn't too blatant or is otherwise 90% of your fucking canvas.

unlike hunter's moon.

>>5069798
call of duty still uses the quake 3 engine very deep inside

What is Doom 64 Unabsolved?
Has anyone played or even heard of it?

>>5069798

I never liked Jedi Outcast, tried replaying it on multiple occasions but it feels like an endless stream of "oh god. it's THAT LEVEL"

>>5069832
an update of doom 64 absolution that colonel sanders based brutal doom 64 on

>>5069838
I thought it was a mod someone once posted picturs of here

>>5069784
https://www.moddb.com/mods/the-dark-conjunction

>>5069869
I think he want an sp with the q3 assets

>>5069784
There's this: https://www.moddb.com/mods/entityplus

But seems that nobody is using it to make proper SP campaign besides the modder of this himself.

GERO SHAY CRUO

>>5069415
I'm no map designer, but I feel like you had the right idea with the arachnotrons on the hill. Maybe if you had some kind of sniper on the opposite wall - another set of arachnotrons or revenants - there would be a serious dance to be done of dodging their shots while the cyber is also raining down. You could also do a partial invisibility to make the cyber's shots more unpredictable like how Scythe MAP27, though there's a fair amount of people in this very thread who would be offended by that.

Good luck with your next map. I hope you give a thought to trying out the voice-commented PRBoom fork.

>>5069473
E4M9 is pretty fun pistol starting.

>>5068614
Not bad at all, considering you only gave yourself a mere 100 minutes to work with. I would also like to see 100 minutes of /vr/ be a thing now.

>>5070053
I watched/listened to the demo. Pretty neat. A little choppy, but I imagine that has to do with keeping the audio synced.

Pretty much an all around fair assessment of the map. Unfleshed ideas in a time constraint. While thing should've been about 2/3rds the size, but then it would say "10" instead of "100" and I don't think I'm ready to make a 10 minute map.

>>5070101
Get mapping. We can make it a thing... Together!

If I had a custom player skin for Zandronum, would others be able to see it if they had the option on?

>Played Scythe first 9 maps.
>Every level is a short, throwaway garbage
>Deleted the WAD

If this is really one of the best megawads for Doom, there is not much too see here.

>>5070230
>short = bad / throwaway
Ah, I see we have a KDIZD fan

>>5070225
They will only see if they also have the wad which provides such skin.

>>5070230
I like Scythe maps, short and sweet.

>>5070236
Well to even play a match everyone needs the same wads right?

>>5070239
I'm pretty sure wad usage is controlled by the server host.

>>5070239
Not in Zandronum, there are optional files which can be any wad file that does not affect the gamesim, in case any wad that does no change to the codes on its own, visual and audio replacements are totally fine which is the case.

>>5070240
Generally it will, but you can use autoload section in the ini to load up certain stuff such as graphical/music/sound replacement wads and the server will never know you are using them.

>>5070242
That's pretty handy knowledge, in the case that a friend likes using stuff like Smooth Doom.

>>5070230
It deliberately starts small and gets progressively bigger. That's the whole point - seeing the scale grow until it ends in some wild shit. Just go to the Doom Wiki and look at the maps. You fucked up bouncing early.

>peek around corner looking to ambush an idle shotgunguy
>he reacts immediately
>I miss
>hunter jams
>get hit with a meatshot and die
xDDDDD

>>5070245
smooth doom can't be made optional, because it replaces all the monsters and weapons with its own versions
if you did somehow join a server with smooth doom despite not loading it, you would crash instantly, as your client would have no idea what half the things on the map are

>>5070230
keep going, when you get to map 11 you will appreciate the previous levels and what they lead to

>>5070256
Shit, oh well

Reposting because new thread...

I've been trying to make some Doom maps for some time but I always end up stuck. I don't know if I'm overthinking it.

Painting/drawing relies on armatures (invisible guides that cross the frame) to plan and execute a drawing. Is there an equivalent for Doom mapping?

I know it's not a random process. You just don't go spamming square rooms, connecting them with corridors and calling that a day. There's a mental workflow here that I couldn't grasp yet.

Speaking of workflow, is there one that can help streamline the creation of maps? I thought of maybe building the map in 2D then after it's done Wolfenstein style then I start messing with room heights, stairs, elevators and secrets.

Are there any design guides that can help me learn how to make better maps? I've read a dozen game design books and the best I got is that I need to create a flavour or concept (inside a Vulcan, underwater, etc), try to tell a story with it (the played got to a large frozen lake before diving into the water and finding a cave, etc) and then draw the maps of how the "scenes" should be. I got the best results with this methodology but perfectionism got me real early and with it came anxiety and inadequacy.

Also, for slopes, wouldn't it be better if I could just select a line in preview mode and set it's height with the mouse instead of using dummy sectors that must be aligned and take time and brain power to organize and not screw up?

Is there a logic for enemy distribution? When I played Doom64, it felt like the enemies were exactly where they should be. Why is that?

Anyway, I just needed to vent my questions in hope someone would pick any of those up so we could exchange some ideas.

>>5070308
If youre so interested in "exchanging ideas" why didnt you respond to either of the responses in the last thread?

>>5070251
If you're playing Hideous Destructor, then yeah, that's how it is. Using the Hunter in self-loading mode means you have to accept the risk of it short-stroking, which is why getting used to using it like a repeater is a good idea.
Or go for the double-barrel.

>>5070308
>I know it's not a random process.
You're thinking way too much and nobody likes essays.

self.pain_finished = (time + FL_SWIM);

Any Quake modders in here that know what FL_SWIM is supposed to mean?

I'm trying to replicate Quake's cooldown system on pain states but I don't know what number to put to that.

Repost because new thread and knowing the answer would be really helpful

Alright /vr/,
Boom compatible (because fuck fixing vanilla limit issues in this time frame). 100 minutes or less. Otherwise, same rules as last time.
Anyone wanna make it a trilogy?

>>5070404
100min is awfully thin though.

>>5070406
You can do it, anon! I believe in you.

>>5070398
You need to be able to quickly search across multiple text files if you want to do anything meaningful.

>>5070404
>>5070407
How about a new, creative collab instead of continuing a mediocre shitshow? 100 Minutes sucks.

>>5070308
>I need to create a flavour or concept (inside a Vulcan, underwater, etc), try to tell a story with it (the played got to a large frozen lake before diving into the water and finding a cave, etc)

Don’t do this, I play doom to have fun and be challenged, any story elements are inconsequential compared to the gameplay.

>>5070428

If that's what it takes, I'm fine with that.

I'm just trying to replicate the pain states for all the Quake monsters that I'm porting into Doom. Both Armagon and the Centroid use time + FL_SWIM in their code.

then the Wrath uses self.pain_finished = (time + MOVETYPE_WALK);

[Obligatory post complaining about Graf Zahl]

>>5070468
fucking graf

>>5070468
grob salz

>>5070468
The Community Needs To Chillax 5: the grob sallies

follow the journey of one dickwad dev as he blocks the progress of a 25 year old game engine.

journey into the hive of villany known as /vr/ as you attempt to appease the elder gods with high quality content

follow the quest of one degenerate on his duty to uproot a conspiracy 25 years in the making on the journey to gittin gud at making maps and mods

THIS IS THE COMMUNITY IS FALLing 5
mock 3 has nothing on this.

>>5070404
theme it around something that isn't time.

>>5070456
FL_SWIM is 2 and MOVETYPE_WALK is 3 but those constants are not supposed to be used that way.

>>5070404
got any more guidelines aside from "100 mins lol"?

>>5069175
I just tried playing Doom on mobile. 2 thoughts:

1: Wow, Doom on mobile should totally have a wider autoaim zone, and an option for Doomguy to automatically fire his weapon if there's an enemy in the autoaim zone. That would REALLY make the game much more fun.

2: It's actually a question - can y'all recommend some excessively easy wads? It's a real pain to play Doom on a touchscreen so I need some wads that are super easy so I won't be dying all the time? Preferably easier than vanilla Doom 1/2. (I know I could simply use Russian Overkill etc but I'd like to have options).
That or at the very least wads with very short levels suited for handheld gameplay.

>>5070478
>follow the quest of one degenerate on his duty to uproot a conspiracy 25 years in the making on the journey to gittin gud at making maps and mods
lmao, you wish

>>5070508
Don't acknowledge.

>>5070516
>>5070508
It's called a joke.

>>5070452
"""creative""" """collabs""" have resulted in fucking nothing.
X00 minutes have resulted in something.
Make a fucking map.

>>5070521
You mean like the time we've never had a creative collab?

>>5070520
yes, and it was a funny joke, hence the lmao

>>5070524
how nu r u

Does anyone know what the HDooM detection on La Tailor Gal causes? I'm afraid if it's some kinda screamer or something.

Anyone know someone who takes commissions for DooM spriting/converting screenshots to DooM sprites?

>>5070530
you called?

>>5070521
How about you make them yourself, you lazy dipshit?

And collabs fall through because faggots like you, i.e.'idea guys', don't have a single ounce of talent running through that armor plated skull of yours. Instead you place yourselves as the forerunners of copy and pasting already done concepts because critical thinking isn't possible for idiots who haven't developed a frontal lobe.

The idea sucks, the .wad sucks, nobody had fun making it or playing it -- so what makes you think anyone is willing to do it again? Why waste 100 minutes for a throwaway map when someone could spend that and a better part of the week making something good?

>>5070534
No, collabs fall through because of raging asshats like you.

>>5070534
>How about you make them yourself, you lazy dipshit?
I do. I make maps. Unlike you, who whines about other people not making maps.

Sorry, nobody wants to do a collab with you.
Make a fucking map.

>>5070536
>>5070537
>nuh-huh you!
Good job knuckle-draggers.

>>5070534
>>5070537
No one is fooled, just fucking shoot yourself already.

>>5070530
Pls answer im not the anon who asked but im deadly curious

>>5070543
>>5070530
Sewie appears on the bottom of the screen with "Begone thots" as a sign.

>>5069380
It was never meant to be a sequel to Quake, it's just team at id couldn't agree what to call the new game so they called it "Quake 2" because it used the same engine.

If you want games with a similar feel, try Quake 3, or if you want a single player game: Painkiller, Dusk, Amid Evil, Hard Reset, Devil Daggers - as they're all made by fans of Quake.

>>5070531
Any reason why you can't commission a regular pixel artist and ask that they use a high color count for that 32 bit feel?

>>5070553
That implies I know decent pixel artists. :V It's also mostly for player/enemy sprite "rips" from 3D games.

>>5070547
Nice thanks Anon.

>>5070547
>>5070561
Sewie also floats up to block the center, so no fucking for you. Sprites aren't changed, anyway.

>>5070562
Yeah didnt expect to change them since its there for a laugh.

>>5070489

Thanks! Just knowing that got me thinking that ProQCC just applied those to anything that matches those numbers and it turns out that's the case.

If anyone's working on any maps, I'm down to record some demos to test out this voice record stuff.

>>5070557
Well, I hope so, since then perhaps someone could give you a discount since it's a 'trace'. Because otherwise, doing 8 directions of every frame, with bunch of frames for every animation... could easily get pricey.

As for pixel artists - I recommend checking out pixel art groups on deviantart, and searching on pixeljoint and tumblr, and look for people with open commissions. I imagine pretty much every pixel artist worth their salt will accept such a commission (provided YOU will provide the correct screenshots), though don't be shocked if they ask for over a 100 dollars or something, animation is costly.

If you're not ready to do that, I recommend checking out pixeljoint and deviantart again - but this time looking for pixelart tutorials. Learn basics of pixel art and do it yourself. Tracing is not that hard, it's mostly tedious.

What gameplay/weapon mods make you ridiculously overpowered? I'm taking so much that regular maps will no longer offer challenge, and it only makes sense to use this mods in slaughtermaps and stuff.

I know of Russian Overkill and SwiftSlaughter, what else?

>>5070581
Yeah, posing in Gmod/SFM, screencapping, and editing the outlines to a transparent background in GIMP is simple enough for me.

>>5070532
>rude

Worked on my first map during my downtime for the last week. It ended up being way bigger than I imagined and I didn't really have a plan with the level design. But I think it turned out nicer than I expected.

https://my.mixtape.moe/gyhhzu.zip

I also made it in the Boom format, heard it was "a good starting format" or some jazz but the linedef triggers don't work in it. Anyway everything works fine in ZDoom.

>>5070603
So is it not functioning in PRBoom then?

>>5070610
Sadly no, I didn't really play around with it too much and just felt as though most people play through ZDoom anyway. I'm not entirely sure what the problem was, maybe certain generalized linedefs aren't compatible in Boom or something because I remember trying to go down one of my lifts and it simply not working. Probably shouldn't have given up so easily.

>>5070617
Bummer, I would have liked to make a demo in PRBoom. I'll make a demo in Zdoom for you later today, but I gotta sleep first.

sometimes i wonder if metadoom could cause some mandela effect shit with how some things even work in the mod because the unmakers main fire feels off

>>5070603
6/10, it's alright. Took me around 10 minutes, found 2/4 secrets, 80% kills (I'd post a final screen, but I forgot my screenshot hotkey and skipped it). Highlights: beginning is too easy, pls don't give me a rocket launcher right away, and ammo for it 5 minutes later, thanks. Crampled rooms like the ones with 2 barons + fatso and with 2 skellies + baron were alright. Didn't like the "shooting gallery" rooms like the one with fatso - knights - imps - shotgunners. They immediately started infighting because of the mancubus in the back, doomguy just had to stand and watch, where's fun in that. The "hell" area was cute, and I liked the pain elemental placing, but I still managed to run through like half of it without too much problems, hence missed like 15% of kills. Last room is too ez. When I saw the cyberdemons, I instantly thought that this is the ending, and rushed to the skull button. Overall, keep up the good work.

>>5070623
Yeah, also felt that ammo distribution was pretty uneven. I spent all my ammo in the area with the threes 2 cacos, I think. Also also, ran on UV of course.

>>5070625
*trees and 2 cacos
fug

So is it just me or does it feel like development of megawads has really slowed down this year?

>>5070635
megawads are passe
we need GIGAWADS

Anyone have a mod that's just a fancy titlemap? I need it as a workaround for a GZDoom bug.

>>5070603
>>5070617
dunno what you're talking about, the lifts work just fine for me with complevel 9
(also I didn't think using door activation on lift specials would even work)

>>5070637
> GIGAWADS

Mock 2 (41 level)
Strange Aeons (45 lvls)
Chibi Rebellion (78)
Push - Griefing Made Legal (70+?)
Alfonzone (62)
Compendium (~1000)

>>5070637
>Not terawads

What's the Chad WAD?

What's the virgin WAD?

>>5070308
Iteration.
You do something in the editor. You fire it up in the editor. You are like "What the fuck is this shit? I imagined it differently! / It doesn't work the way I thought it would! / It doesn't work the way I thought it would but I am surprisingly okay with that - come to think of it I can follow up along the same lines if I... / More or less okay, but it would be even better if I...". In other words, having playtested your two-cubes-two-grunts you get feedback, that gives you ideas on how to fix and to expand your creation. Then you fire editor and do a bunch of stuff. Then playtest again. And you repeat it again and again until the map plays more or less the way you currently imagine it should play, and you are thus more or less content with its current state. There, done.

tl;dr: editor-playtest-editor-playtest-editor-playtest-...

>>5070775
>You do something in the editor. You fire it up in the game.

>>5070775
Also, ideas based on experience from the feedback are more or less always way more interesting than, let's say, ideas derived from someone else. However, that having been said, you DO need a starting point, something the map is ABOUT.

>>5070760

>Chad WAD
Doom Slayer Chronicles

>virgin WAD
Alien Vendetta

>no one talking about ashes 2063
that sideways building in the city level is one of the coolest things i've seen in a doom map

Would Doom 64 have been better if the demon keys were part of the main course, instead of being hidden secrets in secret levels?

>>5070495
Doom2.wad, find a midi you like for it, needs to be beatable, so if you run out of time work an exit in real quick.
Anything else you need to know?
>>5070521
This.

>>5070404
So is there a deadline or are we going util we reach 33 maps like the others? Are custom midis allowed?

>>5070893
The original 200 mins had a deadline to sort of light a fire under people, and was dropped pretty readily.
I think we've proven we have the focus to knock out a speedmapping challenge.
So 32-33 maps it is.
Custom midis encouraged.

>>5070404
are you actually going to do this?
I dropped my halloween map because we are already in October and not a single sign of life about the map pack on sight, also I originally wanted the map to be udmf
I'm working on the quake Christmas jam but I can manage 100 minutes for this of course

any spooky FPS out there?

>>5070406
do a small map

>>5069749
you sick fuck

>>5070893
>>5070896
Should say, if we don't reach 32, and stop getting submissions for a period of time, we can release at a lower number. No strict requirement for number of maps.
>>5070908
>are you actually going to do this?
We've done it twice before.
I'll personally definitely be contributing.

What the hell, /vr/?
First you spend whole August posting stuff like "Oh! October is soon! We're gonna make Halloween wad! It'll be great!"
Then you completely forgot about it during September.
And now that October is almost upon us, you're thinking of doing something different?
Just... What?

>>5070917
ok, I'll try to have something for the next week, I have to handle my ex wife tomorrow
>>5070921
I thought about taking the torch but I don't know how to put all the maps together with title pic and all that shit

>>5070921
>>5070925
btw, I'm still willing to finish the map for halloween if we do something

>>5070913
Blood?

>>5070547

>>5070934
>blood
>spooky

>>5070913
condemned criminal origins
well, not exactly fps, also not retro

>>5068614
TOO much ammo

>>5070404
So is it 100 minutes and done or can the maps be adjusted for balance/detailing once feedback is given?

>>5070921
/vr/ isnt one person.
100 minutes of /vr/ doesn't take up a lot of time per map either. An hour and 40, plus testing maybe 2 hours and change - unless you manage to bust out a larger map in that time. I'd recommend erring on the smaller side.
>>5070925
Rad. Looking g forward to it.

>>5070959
Typically we've adjusted for game breaking issues - Inescapable pits, untagged doors, etc. I don't recall us polishing anything design related past the 100 minutes.

>>5068614
Tried it and it was neat.
I wonder if anyone has ever thought of a mapset or megawad, where each map is mapped around the number related to its slot order.
>First map has huge number one
>Second map has number two
>Third map has number three
And so on.

say I have a custom enemy who I want to have a state, then when he sees you he does a brief animation (let's say, standing up) which leads to normal See animation. is it even possible to do this in Doom? I'm guessing i'd have to do some magic in the Spawn state but hell if I know what

>>5068614
>>5070949
also

SPOILER

I don't know the reason behind the last teleporter

>>5070994
You just have his "look" states be home sitting or whatever, then have his alert state go into your animation frames with no action attached to the states., then to "chase" states and repeat chase. Only way it would reset is in vanilla Doom if you save and load.

>>5071002
Actually I don't think I'm remembering right. Might not be an alert trigger... Might go straight into chase.

>>5070996
Just to get out of the room if you want to. Door doesn't open from the inside.

Sorry to bring unrelated stuff to this thread but I think a Ranger edit would be funny

>>5071005
yeah there's Spawn (the idle animation) See (the walking/running after you animation), Melee, Pain and Death which are self explanatory.

>>5071036
Here you go.

Now go back where you came.

>Just discovered the BFG room in Chasm

>>5071050
*kshhhhhh*

*sip*

YEAP chasm was a good game....

>>5071038
In vanilla the only way I can think to do what you want is to make a monster that idles, sees you, runs through his animation, then simultaneously dies and drops a "weapon" that is replaced by a monster entity.
Otherwise you should be able to do it with zscript or decorate, but I know less about that.

>>5071074
I think I found a solution in A_LookEx which allows you to create your own state, so I can go from the idle Spawn to the custom state of getting up, leading to the walk/chase. So everything works out in the end.

>100 minutes of /vr/?
>halloween /vr/ project??
let's not forget doom turns 25 years old this December 10
>25 years of doom /vr/ project¿????

>>5071118
also christmas

>>5071118
>>5071121
> /VR/'S SPOOKY CHRISTMAS CAKE

>>5071070
Art-wise, it looks like an inbetween of Doom and Quake.

>>5070013

I love both Doom and Quake to bits. Are there any good WADs that have a Quake-like aesthetic? What about Quake maps that have a Doom-like feel?

>>5071159
dimension of the boomed

>>5071159
have you played dimension of the boomed yet

>>5071159
ive head good things about dimension of the boomed

>>5071159
Shadows of the Nightmare Realm and Umbra of Fate

screen didn't upload

Is back to saturn x good with pistol start?

>>5071180
idk dimension of the boomed kinda sucked
I really liked bimension of the doomed tho

here you go. time for bed

>>5071209
I hope you reveal squares by jumping on them

>>5071118
>tfw never used any doom tools so i cant participate

>>5071127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kvPYy34T-s
Chasm even had "VOICE ACTING" and "FACIAL ANIMATION"

Wait, Arcane Dimensions has runes?

was thinking about that one door texture with a bunch of demon skulls and thought if the big one with horns was the same species as the cyberdemon

Are there any modern maps by official authors other than E1M4b and E1M8b?

hey has anybody saved that doom comic in which doom guy uses the hook shot attack on a baron, only to loose it by said baron that was gonna shoot him, finishing with doom guy saying "UNF"

Is the moving face wall texture Doom's version of the green hills with eyes from Mario?

>>5071289
>he didn't know

>Intermission S3 is dead

>>5071327
Sandy was considering giving it a go at one point. Doesn't look likely now.

>>5070623
Appreciate the feedback.

>>5070665
If it works in that case my bad. Not too familiar with everything.

>>5071435
I heard the same about Tom Hall

I wonder how Adrian drew the imp

>>5071435
>>5071446
Goddammit, that would have been sweet, then you could assemble those new maps into a bonus episode.

>>5071448
I wonder how he or whoever did Quake art made Ranger’s face, it would be cool to copy that process to make a more animated HUD mug.

>>5071327

Speaking of this, Romero hasnt been talkin about rebooting his failed kickstarter, right ?

>>5071448
Probably just painted by hand, which is why maybe a few of the details (particularly the head) doesn't look 100% consistent at all times.
Romero released a whole bunch of old Alpha and Beta stuff a few years ago, among stuff which was finished and never used (sprites, flats, textures, etc), and some which wasn't (and also not used), there's a handful of old work in progress graphics for stuff which would eventually make it into the game.
Some of the gore graphics can be found in parts in these packs, so if you want to make such stuff for yourself, you can grab and assemble some stuff of your own, from all of that.

Pinkie was painted over a dinosaur toy, probably because it made it easier to do the legs. There was also a couple of test mockups where they were looking at how much his jaw was to open for his chomping, one which was very long.
Caco was most likely painted from scratch, and being mostly spherical, that was probably fairly easy, and why he looks mostly consistent.

Looking through the files, I can't find anything at all which looks like a WIP or basis for the Imp (and no model, clay or latex, has been ever shown or implied about), so I assume those were hand drawn from scratch, and likely quite early on in the development, given how they can be found in the early alpha builds, looking pretty much complete.

>>5071474
Tests for Pinkie's jaw.

>>5071465
What I recall, he said that since the general reception was kind of lukewarm, he decided to withdraw the concept/project, and revise it, to then bring it back again.

No idea how that's going, I'm hoping he didn't go back to his Dai-Katana headspace.

>>5070689
"Fall Of Triton" has like 40 levels.

>>5071474
Yeah, the imp does look inconsistent, especially in its attack frames, but I don’t mind it. Some enemies like the archvile are clearly digitized models, some like the player are those clay dolls that have a bit of touch up.

Really amazes me how all this was done in 93, there are all these tools out there now and I can hardly do anything beyond flat MSPaint blocks.

sometimes, i don't mind the existence of final doom and master levels, probably because they either had some good bits between the bad parts or there's something that always sticks out, even if it's minimal
it's less "looking at shit" and more "looking at trash you didn't bother to throw away"

>>5071327
Didn't Tim Willits make a level for some soda company in the 2000s?

>>5071489
Kick attack

>>5070921
congratulations, you have learned that /vr/ is not a hivemind

Any tips for Ancient Aliens?

>>5071519
Don't die.

>>5071327
https://steemit.com/gaming/@thecastle/doom2-redemption-of-the-slain-full-release-and-download
NRFTL author level.

>>5071519
Dodge projectiles like it's 2hu and play punch out with the skeletons

>>5071485
It's practically like oldschool movie making, making models and posing them for individual frames, but then digitizing them and working them over in post, to create your monsters.

Doomguy was clay, and the two first zombies were based on him.
Cyberdemon was clay too, as well as the Baron.
Adrian coated those wooden posable puppets in clay, and then would sculpt them out into what he was going for, and while this pretty much worked and gave good visuals, often when changing their poses, the clay would break up or deform, mostly they fixed this, and you actually have to go and look for it (Baron's hooves differs in a few frames, because it was repaired).

Because of the difficulties and added time this caused, that's why they hired Gregor Punchatz to make latex models for them, which featured steel skeletons, to make them poseable. Spidermind, Mancubus, Arch-Vile, and Revenant were made this way. Spidermind was mostly the same, but they gave him a bigger gun in post, Mancubus had the striping removed (and his six nipples aren't easily visible in the final resolution). Arch-Vile actually looks fairly different, a lot of his detail disappeared in the downscaling (but he also gets a distinct, evil, skeleton-faced appearance that way), and Revenant actually changed a bunch, he was supposed to be all meaty, but they repainted him to look bony (presumably to make his shape more simple and easily recognized).

Some of the Doom 64 monsters were actually made as latex-steel models, like the new Pinky, an unused Vile-like monster and a hellhound.

>>5071545
I have to take a moment every time I read about NRFTL because I've gone through too many shitty doujins and I keep reading it as "NTR".

Do i need jumping and crouching in ultimate torment and torture?

The ammo bacpack is a funny item, because no matter how many weapons Doomguy can carry, carrying their ammo means he needs a backpack to carry more of it.
This also means most Doom fanart or even promo art is incorrect, because unlike the rad suit and light visor, the backpack's effect lasts an entire game.

Any mods that turn DOOM into a roguelike? I know there are map randomizers but I'm not sure if they provide the same experience of getting stronger as you delve deeper and facing tougher enemies like nethack

>>5071667
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044

Alright which one of you did this?

>>5071701
With all the HDoom inspired designs already around, this was kinda unnecessary.

Any way to play Quake on Android that isn't fucking ancient? QuakeTouch was last updated on 2015. Delta Touch exists for DOOM and it's up to the latest GZDoom build along with a couple other source ports.
There's QuakeDroid but it's fucking shit and doesn't even support the expansions.
Should I give up and buy Quake Touch?

Doom 64 lighting is gorgeous and makes Doom look like shit lmao

64 > Doom

Better music. Better enemies. Better weapons. Better sprites. Better lighting. Much much better atmosphere.

>>5071740
It's a very good Donkey Kong game.

>>5071740
sadly is not fully added on gzdoom ports

>>5071614
Yes.

>>5071725
QI4A is free.

>>5071740
Lacks the b-horror movie/metal album cover styling and aesthetic of the original game.
Doom 64 has a very consistent aesthetic, which is a strength, but the original aesthetic is a strength in itself.

Having one last issue with the deepdream doom thing. The partial invisibility mode overrides GZDoom's custom shaders, which I use to create crude 2-frame deepdream animations. So all the weapons (and Spectre) are doubled. Is there a way to replace the partial invisibility shader with my own, or should I just do the lazy thing and keep it in?

why are blood's guns so satisfying?

>MetaDoom + Doom 2 Redux
Somehow i got some weapons a bit earlier, that in map 07, i got both the lighting gun and the Gauss cannon.
So far, it seems like an interesting mapset, outside of some songs sounding like they're having a seizure.

>>5071740
>better sprites
>several weapons lack extra frames for pumping, reloading, and the "recoil" of the plasma gun
I disagree. The extra frames of animation added a lot to those weapons

>>5069509
Petersen's episode is underrated as fuck and everyone hates it just because of the Spawns.

>>5071740
Doom 64 still misses most of the material that defined classic Doom Hell.
The combination of elements, most noticeably flesh and tech being a good example.

>>5071740
>stole the coloring from PSX
>stole the sound effects from PSX
>majority of monster redesigns are retarded
>console only, meaning less enemies onscreen
>lacks the archvile and revenant, taking away even more challenge
>Nintendon’t exclusive
yikes

>>5071640

>>5071869
when you are totally interested in talking about doom

>>5071835
because they loud boom and make enemy do blood go dead

>>5069176
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61633
Quake C devkit "progs_dump" released, plus maps demonstrating its use

>>5071869
>stole the coloring from PSX
>stole the sound effects from PSX
They're both by William's Entertainment, it literally cannot be theft.

>majority of monster redesigns are retarded
The Zombies suck, the Mancubus is boring instead of the grotesque and monstrous original, and the new Caco feels goofy, that's all true.

However, the Pinky is cool, as is the Imp, the Pain-Elemental, and Arachnotron. The Cyberdemon is pretty much the same in design, but he's redone in such a way to stylistically fit the new graphics, as is the Baron, and I feel that's fine.

>console only, meaning less enemies onscreen
I don't think they were gonna go the slaughter route at any rate. The PSX versions lacked here too.

>lacks the archvile and revenant, taking away even more challenge
True, the PSX versions had the Boner, but he's so crazy nerfed, and the absence of the Archie is a huge minus.
Imagine the Arch-Vile proper in the PSX Final Doom, and instead of Master Levels, they use more Plutonia levels. It could have been so great!

That said, Doom 64 DOES try to challenge with what it has, and it gives you a unique final boss.

>Nintendon’t exclusive
Nintendo wanted a selling point, can't fault them for that, it's one of the best games on the console, on top of being pretty much all new, exclusive content.
These days you have other options to play it, so it's not as big a deal.

>>5071869
>>5071904
I'd say the weirdest part of Doom 64 is the unmaker's demon keys
They not only upgrade a new weapon in the game, they also shut down portals that spawn enemies before you face the final boss, which includes Pain Elementals
Yet they're available in secret levels, through weird areas

I just got done playing Unloved and I really enjoyed it for the most part. I was wondering what are some other wads like Unloved that does atmosphere well and/or the kind of exploration/backtracking via hub that Unloved does, which I suppose is mostly just Hexen style levels.

Why am I stuck like this, I'm not writing a fucking novel.

Cut some fat off the video, sorted the classics by year and added a little bit of info, now I don't really want to do about the last part, I was thinking of doing the same thing, add dates and level count, sort by year and use the extra space I got after cutting to add Soul of Evil and two more picks to the selection and call it a day, but I feel like that would be a little lazy when I have the opportunity to expand on it, the rest of the video hasn't changed that much.

In the other hand I dont really know what to do with the last stretch.
Ah fuck, this is taking longer than it should have.

Am I missing something obvious, or is it just not possible to use $random for multiple *usefail sounds without getting
'Sounds that are reserved for players cannot be reassigned'?

Damn. Only on the first level and this wad "Violence" is shaping up to be the best I've played in awhile.

>>5071701
why do I see this generic fucking anime girl everywhere I go?

>>5071270
gzdoombuilder is really simple and easy to learn. you should try it some time.

invisible bridges are neat

>>5070603
So, I fucked up and believed this guy >>5070665
and tried running it on complevel 9 in PRBoom and you were right: the lift doesn't work. I recorded a demo anyway, but I'll get you the Zdoom demo like I mentioned before.

Here's the demo: http://www.mediafire.com/file/0vuf5c7cv8r9q9x/hellFDA.lmp/file

It has a voice recording embedded into it, which you can listen to with this fork of PRBoom (but the demo itself will still work without it): https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/96894-my-prboom-build-with-in-demo-voice-recording-support-and-something-extra/

Zdoom demo incoming.

>>5072001
how is this possible?

Anyone up for playing some Daikatana?

>>5072046
It has multiplayer?

>>5072049
Well it has co-op.

>>5072046
>when you grisly but she still grotto

>>5072050
I've never played it.

>>5072046
Quality bug team that game had.

>>5072046
Daikatana is an alright game without the NPCs. Makes me wonder what could've been, if Romero had the common sense to cut them before release and replace NPC dialog with 'mission control' radio transmissions a'la Deus Ex.

I noticed some anon a few threads back asked if AvP 2000 was retro. I remember it coming out in '99 so I checked, and it did. They probably named it 2000 since Y2K and the new century or something. Anyway, you got me to play it again in a long time. Many flaws, but very fun anyway. Shame that the GOG version lacks functioning multiplayer and the Steam version is dead anyway, but that's not too surprising.

>>5072049
Its DM is stats and character based - each character has their own stats for speed, power, and some other shit, and you can level up over the course of a match. Bhopping is insane.

>>5072070
Also the Alien missions are fucking insane, it's like Quake speed on roids. Even a simple jump is moderately fast. Crouchjumping and strafing along walls and bouncing around like a rubber ball is nuts, flying over marine and predator heads while sniping them with your tail.

>>5072001
>>5070603
Here's the ZDoom demo (Not GZDoom, to be clear, but the final version of ZDoom): http://www.mediafire.com/file/ba3bi7172c2j7i4/zdoomHell.lmp/file

Nice visuals and setpieces, the hell teleport was cool. Fights were mostly not very memorable, but they weren't bad. I'm a bit tired so I don't have much more to say, but I hope the demo will be useful.

Thanks for the map.

>>5070603
That was exceptionally good for a first map. Better than most people's third or even fourth maps.

Osiris is fucking awesome. Especially for a 1996 amateur TC. The textures, the sprites, the sounds, the level design, everything about it is so well-executed.

>>5072124
The music is like the best part.
I can't believe people haven't used it, that shit SLAPS!

Damn, you even get a flamethrower. Which came first, Osiris or Powerslave?
>>5072128
Truly a collection of bangers.

>>5072131
I don't think Osiris has any textures at all from Powerslave, or from Quake, both games which have quite good textures one could use for an Egyptian themed TC, and most people would have nabbed a few from there for convenience.

There's this certain quality to the textures which gives it kind of a homely, amateurish 90's feel.

>>5072131
Osiris TC came out 1996, being a continuation on Anubis, which uses some of the same stuff.
Powerslave/Exhumed came out in late 1996.

Can't find exact dates.

>>5072141
Osiris was uploaded to idgames on August 24, 1996 while Powerslave came out September 26, 1996.

>>5072149
>>5072141
I guess the mid-90's were a good time if you're into Egyptian themed action.

>>5071904
>and the new Caco feels goofy
You're saying it as if the original one wasn't a complete goofball.

>>5071458
Pixel by pixel, probably. Paul Steed wrote a bit about Adrian in his book on modeling.

>>5071915
>other wads like Unloved that does atmosphere well
Demons of Problematique 1 & 2

>>5071725
>There's QuakeDroid but it's fucking shit and doesn't even support the expansions.
According to Baker it should support all mods that its parent engine (Mark V) does. What version are you running?

I forgot how obscenely loud the plasmagun was in Osiris TC, Jesus, that thing REALLY sounds powerful.

>>5072163
I know, but classic Caco is goofy in an endearing way, also his big smiling maw of teeth is still imposing.
Caco 64 just doesn't look as good.

>>5072179
They compensated with the absolutely terrifying D64 Pain Elemental.

>>5072182
The 64 Pain Elemental is baller as fuck actually.

lo wang>duke nukem

fight me outside

>>5072095
Appreciate the demo, it's cool seeing someone else's perspective when playing.
>>5072113
Thanks, hopefully I can follow it up well when I get the chance to make another.

What is the best fanmade Duke Nukem episode, which feels like the original game?

>>5072225
Or even fanmade levels

>>5071825

nvm, I was a dumbass and didn't check the fuzz settings. "Transluency" and "Shadow" work perfectly, it's just "Fuzz" that gives the double vision. Wonder how pissed people would get if I found a way to automatically change the game settings, as mipmapping's fucked too.

>>5072203

obligatory https://nodontdie.com/rebecca-heineman

>>5071273
Super flat levels though. Shit animation. Great texturing.

>>5072320
I thought the enemy and weapon animations were pretty solid. Level design was indeed shit though.

FUCK this part of powerslave

>>5070908
>I'm working on the quake Christmas jam but I can manage 100 minutes for this of course
Radical.
Here's a more normal rules post. Don't think I'm forgetting anything. Maps will be organized based on difficulty, "feel", or suggestion I guess, except maps that utilize special functions (tags 666 and 667, secret maps).
Accepting suitable custom skies as well.

>>5072236
This is what good game journalism looks like.

any of y'all done any maps for half life?
how does hammer behave?

>>5070890
well then somebody else finds a MIDI or i'm just going to use sandy's city.

>>5070908
>>5070921

People were allowed to keep working on their halloween maps well past the original deadline last year so it's your own fault.

>>5071971
>>5071994
sauce?

>>5072356
cooooolp

>>5072438
>this wad "Violence"

>>5072439
i am fucking blind

>>5071226
is it possible to do that?
I'd change it in a second if I could. at the moment you just walk on squares to reveal.

>>5070404
>>5072356
>>5070908
Frankly I'd rather see work on the halloween stuff continued than a new project with such a restrictive time limit.

>>5071835
Because they dismember enemies and blast them away giving the feeling they have serious impact and power.

is there any guides for emulating PS1 FPS with KB+M?

>>5071839
Speaking of Doom 2 Redux.
Is there something wrong with map 31? I can't even reach double-barrel or activate any switches.

>>5069175
Will the Quake and Doom map making communities die one day? How many people do you think they contain (producers and consumers)? Can't be more than around 2000 right? In time it will probably fizzle out like... shit particles in farts.

>>5072557
That’s a scary thought. I don’t like to think about something dying. But I would say this is only the beginning.

>>5072557
they will all literally die of old age soon

>>5072557
Quake - possibly, it's not THAT popular, and the only thing that keeps it going are passion projects of a few autists.
Doom - doubtful, since it rides the surfwave if memery, with sourceports providing new features and more accesible modding.

>>5072557
Their numbers will dwindle (though not as quickly as you think), but there will always be people doing mods for old games, and even when the last generation that can say that they played Doom and Quake on release dies, the games will remain both historically interesting, and extremely enjoyable. Besides, we still have to run Doom on quantum computers.

>>5072557
>drama happens
>that one fag that found out how to do the thing never tells anyone even though it can greatly improve the mods and community
>something something LE RIP AND TEAR
>school shooter made doom maps of his school

>>5072582
>that one fag that found out how to do the thing never tells anyone even though it can greatly improve the mods and community
Revenge is a dish best served spitefully.

>>5072582
>>5072595
You mean Graf? Or is there some other drama that I missed?

>>5072595
>revenge
on who? withholding something just because you can is a dick move to everyone else that could benefit from it

>>5072602
>5072602
>Graf
literally who?

>>5072603
Just some no-name coder, don't worry about it.

>>5072603
>withholding something just because you can is a dick move to everyone else that could benefit from it
That's the point of revenge.

>>5072632
but whom is taking revenge and against what?

>>5070603
That was a terrific map. The bit at the end where you teleport to hell was well-made. The sharp texture contrast from grey metal to hell-red stone made you feel like you were a million miles away.

I too ran past the Cyberdemons at the end. Where did you find the music?

>>5072001
alright so here's the thing: most of the lifts DO work (the ones that use the door activation method). I didn't notice the WR lift when poking around the map, though

>>5070603
you gotta use sector tags with walkover/switch/shoot lines; only zdoom ports assume sector tag 0 means "the sector behind the line"

caption this

>>5068614
I need this wad with random music, how it is called?

>>5072691
Now you just need to wrap him in plastic, and you can put him in the store.

>>5072691
Now that's a Cool Piggy!

>>5072641
It's Dracula's Castle from Symphony of the Night, and he probably got it from a vidya midi site like vgmusic.com

>>5072781
Jimmy's Jukebox, I guess?
Don't know about others.

>>5072829
I don't know, I thought it had a bunch of nes .midis
maybe I'm nuts
this is fine anyway, thanks

>>5072857
Pretty sure Jimmy's Jukebox has that, yeah.

>>5069175

Gonna ask this again

Beside Duke Nukem Repository and Steam Workshop, where can I get DOUK KICKEM maps?

>>5072167
I miss paul

he did wonders for both quake 2 and wing commander

>>5072872
I don't personally know, but if no one gives you an answer in here, you can try the Build Engine thread somewhere in /vr/.

>previous doom thread I was in on /v/ was comfy
>the latest thread is full of politics shitflinging making it unsalvageable
AAaAaAaAaAaA

thanks to marisa's vector matrix utility, i made an icosphere of sorts
then i made it rotate
i accidentally made holo art

>>5072921
the future is now

>>5072873
STEED
https://youtu.be/MpvxSSvD3mw

>>5072491
Then work on that. Shan't stop you.
It should've been shilled more. What still needs to be done?

>>5072921
Cool!

>>5072910
>posting on /v/ ever

you deserve it

>>5072975
pretty sure a large chunk of /vr/ came from /v/ in the first place, this board's userbase didn't pop out of nowhere.

>>5070872
>ashes
Came out of nowhere and plays really good. Sort off strify, deus ex.

Its pretty cool, I hope more eps get made.

>>5072976
People who cared about old videogames came here, while people who actually don't really like videogames infest /v/ perpetually.
This is just a better place.

>>5072428
Hammer is an abortion that should have been properly slain in the womb back when it was called Worldcraft.

third LTG character coming slowly along

>>5072557
Quake 1 definitely has less than 2000 people playing and making content for it.