/vr/ - Retro Games

>op has been reading his sophomore English assignment

>>5057316
What defines a collector? I'd say if you have any modicum of interest in games you would have some form of a collection. At what point does "having a collection of games" turns into "I'm a collector?" I have a medium to large-ish collection of games, but that's only because I go to thrift stores and look for cheap shit and that I'm actively looking for and playing new games. Does that make me a collectorfag?

>>5057320
I don't think you can read 1984 in schools anymore, because of the anti-commie stuff. But you can, of course, read The Crucible which demonizes fundamentalist Christians.

>>5057316
i have every single game in this collection, and more. it's called rampant piracy. i refuse to feed the electric jews with my precious shekels. you can all go fuck yourselves.

>>5057329
people with multiple sexually transmitted diseases are also collectors.

>>5057337
They prefer the term "catcher" thank you very much.

>>5057316
I just hate faggot resellers that kike up the prices.
Finding $1 dollar NES games at a flea market is fair game.

>>5057329
>collectorfag?
Yes but I suggest being a collectortrap is you want to fit in on 4chan.

>>5057356
>tfw you bought 96 nes games no dupes off letgo $1 each recently

>>5057356
faggot collectors with deep pockets (youtubers) are worse than any reseller. reseller can't make money if nobody buys his shit

>>5057316
You're really a petty little jealous person, aren't you?

Sad that guy has all those games and such a shitty television, though. Probably collects more than he plays.

>>5057356

This but with PC gaming.

"But it's sealed!" - Yeah, which now means that you've trapped all of the moisture inside, dumbass. Plastic also SHRINKS over time (hence "Shrink-wrap") so it's slowly crushing the box and warping it.

"But it's $XX on eBay!" - Yes, there's the pivotal word: eBay. eBay sucks at prices with few exceptions. Let me also guess that the description that you read also contained "RARE!" "MINT!" and "NEVER USED!".

Other bullshit that you deal with:

* Disc 1 is missing out of a multi-disc game. I can't tell you how many times that has happened.

* Serial Key is missing. Because who needs a serial key to play the game?

* Discs are scratched up. Because everyone knows that using your game discs as beer coasters does wonders for their performance.

* Game and box don't match - I've had that occur on more than one occasion.

The PC games at flea markets have all but dried up, at least in my area. There are a few dedicated dealers but they only deal with console gaming. They'll throw me a deal on occasion only because I've been around the scene for so long (and they know that I'm not a reseller).

>>5058137
Prove it.
I'm genuinely curious.

Sometimes I just wish I could just light all of that on fire. I used to be jealous, but looking at all that Soitendo collection where like, less than 100 total are worth playing twice, just makes me wish there was a /vr/odger to hunt them all down.

>>5057356
That's my beef as well. I don't give a fuck you want to own a room covered in plastic. I care when you are spending $100+ on a cart/disc because you are ensuring bad habits that effect everyone. I'd be so fuck getting into this hobby if I didn't start back in 09 when most shit was going for about 300% than what it is now.

>>5057316
I fucking hate that byuu guy who wants himself off as a "preservationist" when he doesn't actually preserve anything. He just abuses his clout as the bsnes guy to reap free items which he hordes for himself while only publishing the smallest hint of him actually preserving said items.

>>5058419

>started back in 2007
>got a both a US and Jap Saturn for $40
>PDS for $65
>Guardian Heroes for $30
>Cannon Spike and Illbleed for $60
>tfw all the insane price jumps when the hipsters rolled in

I don't know how anyone can handle the retro market now, you can't even stumble into odd ball deals, getting lucky now is just catching an ebay listing/ending at 30% less than what the average loser will pay. You think the more abundant and easy emulation got the cheaper shit would get but I guess you can't underestimate fat balding men with nothing going on in life.

>>5058432
>I don't know how anyone can handle the retro market now, you can't even stumble into odd ball deals, getting lucky now is just catching an ebay listing/ending

Not true at all. Resellers get them from somewhere right? Don't give up, ust try harder m8

>>5058437
>Resellers get them from somewhere right?
From what I've seen most get them from auctions of things like storage sheds and condemned property. Which is not a cheap way to hunt for stuff. That said there is not much to try to get. I'm >>5058419
and I can't think of anything left to get that I don't have. I just really dislike there is that idiot that needs super rare cred shit X to the point they overspend and ruin it for everyone else.

>>5058420
He's a rogue No-Intro dumper that thinks he's better than No-Intro cause he found 3-5 games & revisions no one really cares about. He says he sends his box scans & shit to snescentral, but fuck if anyone even knows the site exists since he practically only mentioned it in his vapid rant about his lost package.

>>5058442
Is PDS worth $500 to you? Because if you decided to sell it on ebay you would get at least $500 from those idiots who want super rare cred shit. They ain't ruining it for you bro, you essentially have an eternal emergency fund thanks to them

I agree that if you want to get in to collecting now it mostly sucks ass, but all the 90s kids have disposable income finally so it was guaranteed to happen. If you kept many games from your childhood or started collecting earlier the higher prices are a net positive for you

Never understood /vr/'s constant whinging about this

>>5058442
>From what I've seen most get them from auctions of things like storage sheds and condemned property. Which is not a cheap way to hunt for stuff
no. look on youtube, search "game hunting"

>>5058451
>They ain't ruining it for you bro, you essentially have an eternal emergency fund thanks to them.

This. Like some of the other anons in this thread I was able to get in on the ground floor for most of this shit (been going to flea markets since around 2006) and was able to pick up shit for pennies that I could now sell for 1000% profit. The only caveat is that the "bubble may burst" but I don't see that happening for a long time.

>>5058451
>They ain't ruining it for you bro, you essentially have an eternal emergency fund thanks to them
If you really see this shit as any kind of investment I question your age or poverty levels. Because that is the stupidest reason to be happy for this shit, the best emergency fund is to just be frugal and save with your money, you don't have to find a buyer or worry about the market crashing. There is nothing "eternal" about it.

>but all the 90s kids have disposable income
Data is showing the flip really, the 80s kids which are basically done retro collecting were the last real generation that had the success stories of moving out at age 18 and being a house owner with a wife and 2.5 kids before 25. Most late 20 somethings I see fit the media narrative: single, poor and usually still living with family.

>Never understood /vr/'s constant whinging about this
because it poisons the well, we get idiots like you that think it should be treated like an investment, we get retards that horde for the sake of hording in greater number, we get a sea of people that praise rare games but when you pick at why they like them you discover they know nothing about it, they just own a copy. Hell that logic is why collector/emulation shitposting works so well here, it have no legs if their weren't idiots wanting rare games because of "investment" value. You think that house fire thread would have gotten 400 replies if the most pricey retro game out there was $30?

>>5058451
>year of our lord 2018, 9 months and 22 days in.
>$500
>emergency fund

That's not even enough to get by in a month. Also don't act like most here buy that shit for that reason. There are way more lucrative markets to get wealthy quick.

retro games ARE an investment, have been for a while. whether you think it's a good one or don't want them to be is completely and utterly irrelevant. you should be happy that idiots are willing to pay you 20x what you believe a retro game is worth.

>it poisons the well
not for YOU

also data from your ass isn't data anon.

>>5058476
retro games ARE an investment, have been for a while. whether you think it's a good one or don't want them to be is completely and utterly irrelevant. you should be happy that idiots are willing to pay you 20x what you believe a retro game is worth.
>it poisons the well
not for YOU

also data from your ass isn't data anon.

>>5058513
Wow you were so mad you fuck up your own post, had to delete it and rewrite it just for anon to notice you.
Is this what it means to be a collector fag?

>>5058527
gonna post an epic screenshot?

>owning things will make me happy

lel

>>5057329
>I don't think you can read 1984 in schools anymore, because of the anti-commie stuff.
When I was in high school (around 10 years ago) we starting reading it in English class, but about halfway through the book it was "removed from the curriculum" and we had to drop it and read something else.

>>5057316

I collect physicals but I only collect what I actually play.

Being a minimalist, I actually do hate the culture though. Basically, if it doesn't enrich your life, and you don't use it, you don't need it.

I especially hate special edition boxes with fucking statues. All that shit just ends up as land fill eventually.

Why do collectorfags enjoy spending so much money on games they rarely play? Are they compensating for an unsatisfactory childhood? Why do they dedicate rooms of their houses for retro clutter? Why do people think it’s an acceptable hobby?

>>5058595
>Why do people think it’s an acceptable hobby?

only on the internet. large parts of the public recognize hoarders as the freaks they are.

What the hell is the point of buying physical copies of retro games if you’re not going to sell them later?
>>5058592
Like you, wouldn’t a flash cart be more in line with your minimalism?

>>5058592
I’m a minimalist too. I just cut my Amiibo collection nearly in half. I feel so liberated now that I don’t own so much shit.

>>5058601

It's the memory and action that carries me. Sitting down in front of a CRT, loading the cart or disc in & hearing the system whirl up brings me back to a time where I was happier.

That being said, I do use emulators, and I acknowledge eventually the physicals will die, but the bits can be replicated & carried on for future enjoyment. Until then, I'll keep taking the nostalgia hit.

>>5058605

That's a good step. Every 3-6 months, take note of what you have used. I use this rule; if I forget I own something, I don't need it

>>5058605
>owning amiboos

owning even a single one of those overpriced glorified pieces of plastic is one too much.

>>5058614
Agreed, but it really shows that nintendo knows their target demographic well.

>>5058609
>the physicals will die
not before you old man
>>5058634
>nintendo markets to kids
>instead gets 30 yr/o boomers

>>5058605
>And this is our son's room, he's turning 35 this year. As you can see, he puts his allowance to good use!

1/1

"... how the prevailing social conditions, especially the fantastic mass-produced images that shape our perceptions of the world, not only encourage a defensive contraction of the self but blur the boundaries between the self and its surroundings. As the Greek legend reminds us, it is this confusion of the self and the not-self — not "egoism" — that distinguishes the plight of Narcissus. The minimal or narcissistic self is, above all, a self uncertain of its own outlines, longing either to remake the world in its own image or to merge into its environment in blissful union."

[...]

"Still another source of confusion, in recent controversies about contemporary culture, is the failure to distinguish a moralistic indictment of "consumerism" - typified by Carter's complaint about the obsession with 'owning things, consuming things' - from an analysis that understands mass consumption as part of a larger pattern of dependence, disorientation, and loss of control. Instead of thinking of consumption as the antithesis of labor, as if the two activities called for completely different mental and emotional qualities, we need to see them as two sides of the same process. The social arrangements that support a system of mass production and mass consumption tend to discourage initiative and self-reliance and to promote dependence, passivity, and a spectatorial state of mind both at work and at play. Consumerism is only the other side of the degradation of work-the elimination of playfulness and craftsmanship from the process of production."

>>5057316
2/2

"... the culture of consumption encourages an ethic of hedonism and thus undermines industrial discipline. Advanced capitalism is at odds with itself [...]: it needs consumers who demand immediate gratification and deny themselves nothing, but it also needs self-denying producers willing to throw themselves into their jobs, to work long hours, and to follow instructions to the letter.The strength of Bell's argument lies in its understanding of the connection between advanced capitalism and consumerism, which so many observers attribute merely to permissive educators and parents, moral decay, and the abdication of authorities. Its weakness lies in equating consumerism so closely with hedonism.The state of mind promoted by consumerism is better described as a state of uneasiness and chronic anxiety. The promotion of commodities depends, like modern mass production, on discouraging the individual from reliance on his own resources and judgment: in this case, his judgment of what he needs in order to be healthy and happy. The individual finds himself always under observation, if not by foremen and superintendents, by market researchers and pollsters who tell him what others prefer and what he too must therefore prefer, or by doctors and psychiatrists who examine him for symptoms of disease that might escape an untrained eye."

3/3

"A culture organized around mass consumption encourages narcissism - which we can define, for the moment, as a disposition to see the world as a mirror, more particularly as a projection of one's own fears and desires - not because it makes people grasping and self-assertive but because it makes them weak and dependent. It undermines their confidence in their capacity to understand and shape the world and to provide for their own needs. The consumer feels that he lives in a world that defies practical understanding and control, a world of giant bureaucracies, "information overload," and complex, interlocking technological systems vulnerable to sudden breakdown."

4/4

"The consumer's complete dependence on these intricate, supremely sophisticated life-support systems, and more generally on externally provided goods and services, recreates some of the infantile feelings of helplessness. If nineteenth-century bourgeois culture reinforced anal patterns of behavior - hoarding of money and supplies, control of bodily functions, control of affect-the twentieth - century culture of mass consumption recreates oral patterns rooted in an even earlier stage of emotional development, when the infant was completely dependent on the breast. The consumer experiences his surroundings as a kind of extension of the breast, alternately gratifying and frustrating. He finds it hard to conceive of the world except in connection with his fantasies. Partly because the propaganda surrounding commodities advertises them so seductively as wish-fulfillments, but also because commodity production by its very nature replaces the world of durable objects with disposable products designed for immediate obsolescence, the consumer confronts the world as a reflection of his wishes and fears. He knows the world, moreover, largely through insubstantial images and symbols that seem to refer not so much to a palpable, solid, and durable reality as to his inner psychic life, itself experienced not as an abiding sense of self but as reflections glimpsed in the mirror of his surroundings."

5/5

Haha, I completely fucked up the numbers. It should be 1/4, 2/4, 3/4 and 4/4, of course. The quotes are from Christopher Lasch's "The Minimal Self". I hope they might enlighten one or two /vr/ bros, in spite of my own evident retardation.

>>5058659
That does it, I'm selling my collection.

>>5058432
There's a local shop run by teenagers near me called Disc reply. My body scored a neogeo CIB for half the price. Last week he found Canon Spike for $58 in the case, mint.

>>5058669
Nice posts anon. Of course you realize they will fall on deaf ears.

>>5057329
>1984
>anti-commie
"if there is hope it lies in the proles" is basically the sparknotes version of marx.

>>5058595
Becuase they didn’t grow up right.
They didn’t have a HS sweetheart, a bff, a group event that was their coming of age story.
They are old fat ugly pos that keep ruining their life like they ruin their youth.

>>5058693
looks like you completely missed the point of the book.

>>5058715
looks like you missed the part where ingsoc is implied to have collapsed by the subsequent normal-english guide to newspeak speaking about it in past-tense or - even worse - missed the part were it's winston who has faith in the proles, not the party.

>>5058403
i cringed at what this anon said
so much ignorance is just few words

>>5058598
>>5058709
Is there something you want to tell us anon? It's OK to not like something others like and vice versa. You don't have to project your insecurities on others.

>>5058669
very interesting. how does the book hold up? does it make for a good christmas present?

>>5057316
Oceania was a dystopia, op. Read it again.

The best thing about dreamcast and jap saturn collecting is you can make fucked up cases look like brand new games with easy replaceable cases

>>5058420
>I'm the only one that knows how to properly dumb these carts, but I won't share how to build a proper dumper, nor share the proper dump. here's my verified checksum, have run recreating it without my tools.
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>>5058693
There are as many parallels in the book to modern capitalism as marxism. The end game of any government is the same, power and wealth (a form of power) for themselves and the people who put/keep them in power.

Fundamentally, collectors don't bother me. I've definitely had a couple of hobbies in which I sperged out a bit and collected more than I needed. The problem comes, as other anons have noted, in their willingness to drive the prices up to insane levels. I understand why they do it, the ever increasing prices only make buyers more willing to pay for whatever the price is now, lest they pay the even higher price in a couple of months. Also, buying at a high price reinforces the value of their own collection. Another problem is since vidya collectors can't really get their value back by playing a game one two or even 20 times, they're likely to sell at a high rate. In motorcycles or hobbies where the item being collected serves a utilitarian purpose, sellers often sell for cheap because they have had some measurable benefit and enjoyment. Plus the object or machine depreciates with use. A plastic game shows no signs of obvious wear so sellers are unlikely to acknowledge depreciation.

>>5058476
>market crashing

It always bounces back in the end if you hold something like the S&P 500

>>5058693
It really isn't, communism is based on the idea of workers or the state owning the means of production - any political faction can claim to represent the little guy.

>>5057316
>i care about what other people do with their money because i don't have any, but if i did, i wouldn't do what they're doing... or maybe i would and i'm jealous other people have nicer shit than me
cringe

>>5058669
It sounds like 'hedonism' exists as an escape to get away from the opposite, which is the whole lot of nothing you just posted.

>>5059268

Hedonism is one thing. It can be a good thing. C. S. Lewis once said that escapism is a good thing. I agree. Fuck moralizers who would deprive us of our benign fantasy worlds.

Assigning a numinous, otherworldly value to aggressively marketed plastic trinkets is another thing. We are all products of an hypnotic, advertising-heavy cultural milieu. We have been taugh to associate video games with the deep needs of our souls. As a kid I honestly thought I was not happy because I did not own the latest console and the latest greatest game. The absence of the product that had been marketed to me, a dumbass kid, the target demographic, felt to me like a veritable existential predicament. I once talked about this with a friend, a fellow gamer, and he agreed. We were pathologically obsessed with games as kids.

Hell, I still am obsessed with games. I don't have a definitive opinion on games. They are glorious, they are degrading, they are the meaning of life, they are a waste of time. I don't know.

>>5059210
Welcome to /vr/.

Do they hate experiencing life or do they just just enjoy looking at their precious in box games and finding room for their shitty plastic trinkets so much that they would rather spend their next 40 years in their musty wood paneled basements, playing final fantasy 6 and turtles in time on their 60th birthday, pretending to be happy, but deep down wondering why life has been so unfair to them. But hey, you just keep collecting if you think it can make up for your shitty childhood, which was your fault by the way because you never let go of the memory of the bigger kid that made fun of you for playing with Pokémon cards.

>>5058723

Would you care to elaborate or would you prefer to leave the rest of us guessing about your brilliant deductions?

There's nothing comfier than playing the old school consoles with the real games, on good condition 1st party controllers and a shitty 13" CRT
i love it

>>5059565
>>5059565
You’re absolutely right but you don’t need a sperg level collection to play a fucking game. a 4x4 area in a corner is more than enough to enjoy exactly that

>>5059601
Same anon here, my whole collection fits in like 3 drawers

>>5057316
Poor person OP wants attention. These threads are about as borderline not /vr/ as it comes.

>>5059210
This is two minutes of hate, not two minutes of empathy. >>5048595 is for you.

>>5057316

>>5059298
red pilled

also games is only good in moderation, like drugs or hamburgers

>>5058447
>look up snescentral
>an actual preservationist, Don Russell, kicked the bucket two weeks ago

>>5057316
collector would rather hoard games then actually play them,I was appalled when I went to a collectors house who had many cps2 and snk games boards with cabinets yet could not properly play any fighting game he owned because according to him the trill was all about owning his own private arcade

>>5061892
did his basement smell of mold and cat piss? how'd you make it out alive?

if prices of retro games were stable across the board every single one of you would have a collection of games across a collection of systems and act the exact same as these collectors you currently hate.

you're all sinners, turned green with envy. find Christ and pray for forgiveness before it's too late.

>>5059539
Based and redpilled

Although I do have like 150 NES games and my original CIB copy of EarthBound from Christmas '95 though, lol, fuck you /vr/, I win

>>5058476
Stay mad buddy. It's not our fault you weren't willing/able to go to flea markets/garage sales in the early 2000's

>>5062158
Nah a flashcart is a lot less clutter and harder for the kid to fuck up

>>5058442
Nope. they buy them from the people who go to storage locker auctions who don't know what they have

>>5057316
>has the entire nes library
>still playing mario 3 like a normie pleb
philistine

>>5058605
Why do half the posters in these threads never get rid of all the toys on their shelves? You purge that shit when you hit 14 at latest.

Mods need to start removing these idiot threads. They offer no discussion and are clearly here to attempt to troll or make people upset.

I doubt this is /pol/ but who says it isn't? It is clearly dumb enough.

>>5057329
I live in a libshit city but my little brother's reading it for class right now.

>>5059539
>you never let go of the memory of the bigger kid that made fun of you for playing with Pokémon cards.
>Pokémon cards.

Found the underage zoomer.

>>5062196
it's only onscreen for upboats

fuckin hate collectors and ANY buyers of physical media. Dont you know you can get it for freeeeeee! FREEEEEEE! Why waste money on stupid physiclal media when you can use it to buy life essentials like fast food, starbucks, and quality goods made in China?

I hate their smugness. I go over to collector friends houses where they're showing off their stupid collection to me, neatly organized in a room the size of my crappy apartment. I just think to myself "what a waste of space" for his collection to be taking up a spare room in his 3000sq foot home. He could just emulate like I do and reduce his gaming area to one small dark and smelly corner like I have in my apartment. My cats need the extra space to shit!

Hate collectors.

>>5064335
same with food.
just steal it, like, take it and leave LOL

>>5057316
Hoarding a shitton of plastic won't make anyone really like you. They will just look at your collection of garbage and act impressed, while thinking how disgusting and retarded you are.

>>5064335
damn

>>5064335
>I just think to myself "what a waste of space"
What do you use the space yourself? Air? I think you should live in a vacuum since you wouldn't want to be collecting air, though then you would be collecting vacuum. What a life you must be living.

>>5064335
This is 100% accurate

The faggots who complain that retro vidya prices rise up because of "muh scalpers" are the worst kinds of fucking people. They are just too fucking stupid to understand what the term supply and demand means. Perfect example is Super Mario Bros. 3 Game is popular and known as the best in the NES library. Of course the prices will rise for it. Stop fucking blaming "Scalpers" and "Resellers" Just get a fucking grip you god damn troglodytes

>>5065797

>>5065797
Super Mario Bros 3 is a terrible example, it’s been $10 for the past decade

>>5057316
They can waste their money on whatever they want. They're fucking idiots but whatever, it's their funeral.

>>5065797

>>5057316
they all have anxiety and depression issues.

>>5065904
My local brick and mortar reseller sells Mario 3 for 30

>>5066356
You can get it complete in box for less than that. Don't shop there.

When is the bubble going to burst already? The inflation over the last 10 years has been insane.

I don't understand how some average fuck can afford getting into this hobby.

At some point the wells gotta dry up when the hobby becomes too expensive... right?

>>5068298
My hoard I mean collection is complete already so who cares.

>>5066428
I just buy stuff online now

>>5058605
I can just see in my mind's eye the old 70s lamp which used to hang from those hooks.

>>5058432
Hipsters and zoomers latching onto our culture ruined it, and the saddest thing is that so many of these games sit unattended on shelves for eons until the collector decides to resell it.

>>5064335
imagine you feel this way about products that aren't video games. "you can just enjoy it by thinking about it instead"

>>5057316
Capitalism is about to crash, we are heading into a global resource crisis, and you will live knowing that you wasted your entire life investing into games that belong to a culture you aren't old enough to vividly remember if you lived it at all while we go on into the apocalypse as actual ambassadors of that golden age.

>>5068298
It's not going to burst. People will counter this with the "muh atari bubble" argument, but atari was from a previous age and previous generation before the crash. It never had the cultural staying power of shit like nintendo. Atari prices shot up and then the bubble burst because there was a relatively small number of people who were kids between 1977 and 1983 who grew up with it who started having disposable income in their 20s and bought their old stuff. But with stuff from the NES onward? It's become culturally significant. It's not just people who played NES as kids from 1985-1991 who care about stuff like mario, zelda, castlevania, etc. Those series and more have continued to appear on console after console, so there's plenty of people whose first console might have been a Wii or PS2 who still wants to go back and see the previous titles on older consoles, and on from there.

Now, prices might fluctuate a bit depending on the age and the generation growing up. I predict that PS1 and N64 titles will continue going up especially, and then in a couple years we'll see the 6th gen prices start taking off. And after some time prices might stabilize, but there won't be a bubble burst.

If you really want to collect, my recommendation is to have some foresight and get stuff that isn't en vogue yet. The stuff that nobody seems to give a shit about right now, but will in a few decades. PS2, Wii, 360, PS3, and so on. They're all dirt fucking cheap right now.

Or better yet, just don't bother falling for the collecting meme. I like gaming on original hardware, and I'll buy a couple carts/discs here or there and add them to the de facto "collection" I've had simply because I've never sold or thrown out any of my old games from when I was a kid. But I'm not going to go out and start buying Sega Saturn games when I never had any to begin with. For stuff like that I just get a modchip/everdrive/softmod/whatever and play pirated games.

>>5057316
Easily 90% of those games are terrible, and many of the "classics" that people love to glorify to maintain a status in this niche hipster gaming market are in that 90%.

You can tell when collectors have been triggered by these truths, everytime someone calls them out, they say "nice meme" or "edgy."

While their games weep on the shelves unloved.

>>5068517
The real question is where is the line where it becomes overboard? I doubt most people playing these old systems are like the neckbeards you see on youtube with entire rooms of video game carts and merchandise who want to own every game for a system regardless of quality. Even most people who would consider themselves collectors probably just want to own the cool/fun/interesting games. But there's definitely a point where you're no longer buying games with any intention of actually playing them. At some point these guys cross that line and next thing you know they're on the hunt for every piece of garbage.

I'm glad I started collecting for my old genesis back before the craze really got heated. I already had a lot of games from my childhood, and then here and there I picked others up. Used to be able to order wholesale lots off ebay back in the day for nothing too. It's not like I have anything crazy rare, but I have a good number of high-quality games I've enjoyed. Doesn't hurt that genny wasn't hit nearly as hard by the memes because no nintendo tax, but it's still shot up regardless. I would never buy anything nowadays.

>>5068514
It's too late for PS2

>>5057316
When are mods going to remove off topic threads? This has almost as much about /vr/ as a bowser MtF thread.

>>5068531
Back in 2007 when I started to have disposable income I bought Chrono Trigger CIB with everything in it for 125$ and that's the line I drew on a game over 100$. I can't speak for anyone else and their mad obsession with spending >100$ on several old cartridges.

I've collected fewer than 100 games in 10 years on multiple platforms. There are very few games that I own at this point that are even of any real personal value to me.

Roms are a different story, I have hundreds, and you know as well as I do that most of those games sit in rom folders untouched.

>>5068575
Maybe for some of the more obscure games, but overall it's certainly not ridiculous. The real issue for wanting to collect for PS2 is that you have to wade through mountains of guitar hero, EA sports, and shovelware

>>5057316
Collecting is an unhealthy addiction where the collector is chasing a momentary dopamine rush that gets smaller and smaller as his collection grows.

Also was gonna post this >>5060107

>>5068514
I don't think it's fair to compare the videogame crash of 1983 of the then current market to the retro gaming market of today. I do get your point about NES onward being culturally significant but there's gotta be a point at which this all comes tumbling down. Prices can't just keep going higher and higher, at some point people are going to stop buying quite simply because retro gaming is too expensive.

I agree with you about the collecting meme. I don't have a desire to purchase millions of games that I'll never play, I mostly care about playing on original hardware. It's still an investment but I'd get more bang for my buck by modding it to play pirated games.

most of these collector's take more care of their collection than their own health and finances. Peter Dorr is disgusting to look at.

Is this doing anything for you?

>>5068508
You should get ahead of the game and sell your computer so you never post here again.

>>5068298
>10 years
It's only been 5, bro. 2013 is when this started.

>>5057316
I like how he's called the first wall the Nintendo, the second Super Nintendo and the third N64. that's what they are known as.
I hate this ENN-EE-ESS shit. the very worst is ESS-ENN-EE-ESS, literally nobody called it the ESS-ENN-EE-ESS at the time, it was the Super Nintendo or occasionally the snes (pronounced snehz).
The NES was known as "The Nintendo" or the "the original Nintendo", or occasionally a "nehz", nobody called it an ENN-EE-ESS. this shit has to stop.

>>5068975
You misunderstand. I'm not comparing the pre-1983 video game market to today's. I'm comparing the retro gaming BUBBLE of pre-1983 consoles like the 2600 to today. This was like a decade or more ago when atari got really hot because the guys who had it when they were a kid were grown up and had disposable income. But that bubble burst because atari doesn't really hold any relevance to most people beyond that specific age range. People usually bring up the atari bubble that happened as justification for a future retro gaming bubble of NES/SNES/etc, but it's just not the same. Even kids today whose first console was a Wii still are interested in playing Donkey Kong Country on SNES. Can't say the same for Atari stuff like Berserk or Defender, for better or worse. And that's why there won't be a bubble.

Prices might trend down over time or flatline when stable,but there won't be a bubble bursting.

>>5069182
good point. SNES era games seem like primitive forms of what we have now (graphics where you can see whats going on, save option, more than one-button-controls and so on.)

Whereas 2600 games look like a totally different beast, esp. to younger audiences. This is a good point actually. I think prices of NES/SNES era retro stuff will stay the same or only really go up as it becomes more rare.
As for Commodore and Spectrum, there was a shop near me for a bit that had mint condition ZX in its box for £40. Games were aplenty too. I can't really see them going for more than that if i'm honest, unless were talking in like 100 years or something.

>>5069161
Yeah, that's something that's always annoyed me too. I've NEVER heard anyone call it an NES until the internet. Everyone called it a Nintendo, and then a Super Nintendo. Even saying "snehz" seems to be a britbong/euro thing. Saying NES or "Nintendo Entertainment System" just seems silly because it's like saying "jello brand gelatin" like in the commercials. And hell, we might as well call the PS2 a "Playstation 2 Computer Entertainment System" or PS2CES because that's what it was officially listed as in the ads back in the day.

>>5069293
glad somebody agrees with me on this, i say this to people (esp Zoomers, who seem to exclusively say S-N-E-S) that *literally nobody* at the time spelled out the title of the console. Literally nobody.
GBA was known internally at Nintendo as an AGB... but nobody uses that. I dunno man, the internet has unleashed massive amounts of autism into the world. Maybe the autists did say N-E-S- back in the 90s but it was behind closed doors and nobody else know or cared.

and yes im a bong so "snehz" was quite a popular way of saying it. I'd say it was 50/50 snehz and super nintendo. it was precisely ZERO 'ess enn ee ess', only spergs speak like that.

>>5057316
>im jealous the thread