/vr/ - Retro Games

Is there any point in playing this instead of the PS1 version?

>>5039375
Is this going to be an actual N64 game released on a cart and/or as a rom that requires an emulator?

>>5039585
It came out on the ps1?

Imagine being this desesperate for a N64 game

I'm a little confused here, isn't the 40 Winks rom that's been floating around the internet forever basically finished? Are 1,709 people pledging on a cartridge and a Star Fox 2-style touch-up?

>>5039764
N64 had like 20 decent games due to Nintendo's hostility to third party developers. They need to take what they can get to fluff up their library.

Wait what this never released on N64? I actually looked through some of my old Nintendo powers to make sure I wasn't remembering wrong but they even did a review of it.

>>5039776
yup, it's always sad reading about the staggering levels of mental illness in the community. Not only that, they have contributed an average of $100 to it (by the fact of it, of course I suspect they often contribute themselves to try to get the ball rollling). If this isn't a scam I don't know what is.

>>5039806
Oh get off it. It easily had 50, at least.

>>5039375
It was cancelled? I watched a let's play of it ages ago

>>5039776
>>5039776
yup, it's always sad reading about the staggering levels of mental illness in the community. Not only that, they have contributed an average of around $77 each to it (by the fact of it, of course I suspect they often contribute themselves to try to get the ball rollling). If this isn't a scam I don't know what is.

>>5039829
The PS1 version was still released.

>>5039375
Kek I remember when the Nintendo magazine I used to get reviewed this.

>>5039826
The N64 had more decent games than the PS1 and Saturn combined, easily.

>>5039837
That's... man.

>>5039837
Holy shit

>>5039837

It had a higher % of good games than the ps1 or saturn

>>5039837
Include me in the screencap :^)

>>5039837
I mean I like the nintendo64 and all but
wew

>>5039843
You need to learn your maths, boy. Between 30 out of 300 and 100 out of 1000 which has a higher percentage.

>>5039829

It was cancelled but the rom has been online and fully playable for years. This is a scam.

>>5039837
Doesn't matter. It was the worst generation either way.

>>5039837
>n64 had 12 good games
>The N64 had more decent games than the PS1 and Saturn combined, easily.
That means there were, at most, 23 good games from that generation. I have to say I agree with anon on this one, 5th gen was trash. PC had the only great games of that era.

>>5039837
There's no conceivable way this isn't bait.

welp, might as well kiss this thread goodbye, OP. It's officially a console war shitstorm.

>>5039867
You're both retarded.

>>5039852
PS1 has more like 200

>>5039881
Is there anything more cancerous than console war faggotry?

>>5039852
30 out of 300, because 3 is bigger than 1.

>>5039921

only 199 of those are weeb rpgs

bullshit % it is you got more per cent if you burned on the psx or saturn

>>5039881

There's definitely a more interesting discussion to have here about reselling old betas or producing N64 games in 2018 but /vr/ just hones in on the console war bullshit as usual.

>>5039585
Better graphics. The fact it's not a PS1 game is like an instant massive win.
>>5039776
It was PAL-only and not quite finished.

I hope that they start on Glover 2 soon.

>>5040113
See, now that's a worthwhile game to care about since it didn't get any other sort of release, unlike 40 Winks.

>>5039826
Fifteen, tops.

>>5040194
I can give you 50.

Killer Instinct Gold
Mario Kart 64
Pilotwings 64
Super Mario 64
Wave Race 64
Wonder Project J2: Corlo no Mori no Josette
Blast Corps
Diddy Kong Racing
Doom 64
GoldenEye 007
Extreme-G
Mischief Makers
Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon
San Francisco Rush: Extreme Racing
Snowboard Kids
Star Fox 64
Tetrisphere
Yoshi's Story
1080° Snowboarding
Banjo-Kazooie
BattleTanx
Body Harvest
F-Zero X
Gauntlet Legends
Glover
Goemon's Great Adventure
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Rakugakids
Space Station Silicon Valley
Top Gear Overdrive
Wipeout 64
BattleTanx: Global Assault
Beetle Adventure Racing!
Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness
Donkey Kong 64
Duke Nukem: Zero Hour
Harvest Moon 64
Hybrid Heaven
Jet Force Gemini
Mario Golf
Mario Party 2
Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber
Pokémon Snap
Quake II
Rocket: Robot on Wheels
Snowboard Kids 2
Super Smash Bros.
World Driver Championship
Vigilante 8
007: The World Is Not Enough
All-Star Baseball 2001
Banjo-Tooie
Custom Robo V2
Excitebike 64
Fighters Destiny 2
Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Mario Tennis
Paper Mario
Perfect Dark
Pokémon Puzzle League
Pokémon Stadium 2
Ridge Racer 64
Sin and Punishment
Stunt Racer 64
Turok 3: Shadow of Oblivion
Bomberman 64
Conker's Bad Fur Day

>>5040207
I wouldn't say most of those are must-plays but at least fifteen on that list are worth checking out so I stand corrected.

>>5040207

good list but you forgot rush 2 extreme racing usa

>>5040207
I disagree with your choice to mention that shitty Indiana Jones game but not Rogue Squadron or Shadows of the Empire.

also
>13 racing games

>>5040280
>>5040314
Confession time: it's not my list. It's just a post from a while ago which I remembered and grabbed off warosu. Still, it's a solid list and proves that anyone is full if shit if they go spouting that the N64 only has 20 or 30 or whatever good games.

>>5040318
There's some clunkers in there but yeah it's mostly a decent list

>>5039375
I may be stupid enough to preorder Paprium but I'm still not retarded enough to fall for that.

>>5039881
>be OP
>wake up to 42 replies
>yeah, someone must've posted it and it must've had interesting content
>find console war bullshit like every other thread that mentions a console

>>5040487
>preorder Paprium
th-there's still a chance, r-right?

>>5040720
The Mega Drive anniversary date is approaching. He's going to have to say something about it again soon.

There are only 8 good n64 games. The rest aren't good, and you all know it

>>5040717
>be OP
>be faggot
>expect to be spoonfed
If you cared that much about the game you should have backed it, even if only a dollar.
>>5039375
>no saves without controller pack
They're taking old sports games and using the boards, I don't care what they claim.

>>5039375
Ntsc rom when?

I played this game when it came out, and I played this recently.
It's garbage. No redeeming qualities, the gameplay is just horrible.
>Move over mario
Yes, move over mario, you don't want to step on this shit

>>5040813
Sometimes it's better having nothing at all

>>5040782
I'm interested as a bystander, I don't give a fuck about the game itself. I want to see what problems they have in the bringup, how they will produce the carts, things like that.

>>5040813
There's a video about the early Final Fantasy 64, what was canned when they decided to do 7 for PS1 instead. Aside from the FMVs, the system could have done every PS1 FF, with improved graphics, and nearly FFX for PS2.

>>5040857

Would a FF game fit on a cart with all those prerendered backgrounds? I'd assume that these fullscreen pictures add up quickly...

Found it elsewhere. Here's the update in case anyone else wants it.

>>5040930
Why not? RE2 was almost all prerendered. The console is fully able to decode JPEG or better codecs too, it's not like you need to store them uncompressed.

>>5041037
RE2 was a 2 disc game. You think an N64 cart could fit a three disc or even four disc game on one cart and present the same experience?

Not even trying to start console war shit, I'm curious. Is there any evidence to support that it could do that?

>>5039851
Based Clinton

>>5041617
>Reply
if you ditched FMVs for real time cutscenes or still imagery, you could fit a 4 cd game in a single cart. but as you can probably imagine, it wouldn't have the same impact. Gameplay would be the same, but overall presentation would have suffered.

>>5039837

>>5041657
I reiterate
>Is there any evidence to support that it could do that?

Light googling shows there are interviews with Square devs who claim the opposite actually, and not just due to FMV. Also the supposed FF64 mentioned above wasn't even that, it was just a tech demo with a possibility of being on N64.

>>5040857
>There's a video about the early Final Fantasy 64, what was canned when they decided to do 7 for PS1 instead. Aside from the FMVs, the system could have done every PS1 FF, with improved graphics, and nearly FFX for PS2.

Please link me the video I could use a good dose of laugh and cope.

The very nature of cartridges vs discs meant that none of the FF games could have worked on N64 without scrapping massive amounts of content.

>>5041650
She was the Patient Zero of the whole 'ban Mortal Combat because it turns kids into violent thugs' hysteria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Entertainment_Protection_Act

>>5041734
Truly everything she ever touched, she's screwed up. I bet that Game Boy unit there melted.

>>5041698
Resident Evil 2 N64 is your evidence that this was technically feasible.

>>5041736
Libya turned out fi-

>>5039375
the mixed news is that they found a flaw with some controllers and had to delay them
what im curious about is if backers can get a rom instead of a cartridge

>>5041886
Believe what you want.

>>5039924
You?

>>5041617
Well first of all, much of the content was duplicated between discs, and the new content on each disc was usually just FMVs or bosses only in that area. So counting discs alone is not a useful metric. Secondly, 24mb of RE2's 64mb was FMVs (source: mission compressible article on gamasutra).

I just tried compressing a 640x448 screenshot of a FF-like bg (which is higher res than they ran at on PS1). PNG halved the size, JPG took it to 1/10 at no noticable quality loss, 79kb. Now, that was at 24bit color, for a console you'd use 16-bit; you'd maybe have access to better codecs than JPEG, and your artists would tweak the compression quality as low as possible. So I'm handwaving such an image at half the JPG size, 40kb.

If half a 64mb cart was such bgs, 32768kb/40kb = 819 bgs. I'd wager FF7 and 8 have less than that, but I haven't exactly counted; you might also use lower res than I used here.

Nowadays you aren't limited to 64mb either, but back then that was the largest affordable size. Now you can build 128mb or 256mb carts for a couple dollars more, or a several gig cart for maybe 10$ more in costs. This is naturally only useful for new shit and not theorizing about old shit.

>>5039837
>Being this retarded

>>5040207
I disagree with some of them too but props to you for your effort
>>5039837
(You) haha

>>5039837
whew buddy

>>5039375
this was cancelled? I remember reading about it in Nintendo Power.

>>5039375
Dora is that you?

>>5043383
What would inspire that to upload that photo? There's gotta be some tisum to that.

>>5039957
Gotta love that. Japs develop almost everything for the console and you like it? Not weeb.
Like a JRPG? "HAHAHS, FUCKIN WEEBS, MAN!"
Nintendo needs to be deported.