/vr/ - Retro Games

>he doesn't keep his retro collection in an isolated Norwegian vault
kid got what was coming to him

olololol other peoples misfortune

should've emulated

>>5035398
Should you keep expensive games in a fireproof safe? I know people do for baseball cards and other collectibles. It could just as easily be stolen

>>5035398
All collecting is like hoarding, not just video games it would ve worse if it was a house full of art.

>>5035398
That's only the end result if you have a house fire.

>>5035398

Could the innards survive and just the shell being destroyed like with closed books sometimes where only the outside is damaged but the inner pages stay intact? Especially when they were packed that tight?

>>5035434
The joke is that now the safe is probably worth way more than the baseball cards at this point.

Only subhumans would laugh at this.

On one hand, I feel bad for the guy, I really, really do.
On the other, I hope if he decides to start anew that he'll decide a loose game is okay and not everything HAS to be boxed.

I'm not laughing.

I'm utterly disgusted that some fat fucking slob in his 20s collected 2,000 fucking games all in one room for pictures to post on facebook and it's now burned to the fucking ground.

>>5035447
Fuck no, dude.

>>5035460
You're disgusted that he collected something he likes? Huh?

Attachment is the root of all suffering my niggaz.

>>5035398
Hopefully he had records of his collection and a decent insurance policy so he can potentially get some money back

>>5035468
>collected

Yes, when someone amasses 2,000 VIDEO GAMES and they burn down it disgusts me. IT's hoarding.

>>5035482
My collection fits in a couple bins and isn't worth much, but I factored it in while sizing up my renter's insurance. Looks like that dude has an actual house, so it would be madness to not have everything in it covered.

that sucks, poor dude

>>5035398
looks like DS/3DS games, so nothing of value was lost.

>>5035398
Not sure the point you're trying to make, OP. By that logic no one should ever collect anything.

>>5035451
Depends on the cards

>>5035398
>getting so mad about people owning games you don't you go and burn their fucking house down
Jesus Christ OP.

>>5035508
hmm. Don't even joke about something like that.

>>5035508
kek

>>5035508
If you think about it, that madman arson slightly raised the value of all our games.

>>5035504
>2,000 games that sit on a fucking shelf to be hoarded
>collection

>>5035398
Meanwhile my collection of ROMs and ISOs all the way up to DS and PSP can be easily restored in the event of a fire/flood/earthquake/tornado.

>>5035474
Absolutely enlightened.

>>5035512

But fire is goood, fire is your friend, it cleanses...

>>5035516
If you would feel differently about books or movies then it's obvious this is a case of envy.

>>5035398
something something eggs in one basket

>>5035542
Or to reference another thread, salt shakers and pepper shakers/mills.

>>5035548

Doesn't matter if all those baskets are in your house... So "one basket" can only mean storage. Where would YOU store your collection of whatever you collected over the years? Not like you can just upload a copy of your physical carts into the cloud...

>>5035571
>Not like you can just upload a copy of your physical carts into the cloud...
Assuming I had physical cartridges myself, yes I can definitely store a dump of them in the cloud. I can even choose to keep them in a controlled environment such as a safe or storage facility instead of in some basement ready to go up in flames.

>>5035484
I could get being disgusted that it burnt down, but because he collected them? That's just weird.

>>5035484
>IT’s hoarding
No shit. Collecting and hoarding go hand and hand.

>>5035398
thats incredibly depressing but also one of the risks you take when collecting physical media

>>5035474
yeah but without attachment you have nothing
that's the secret to enlightenment, (true) nihilism

>>5035398
I'm glad we can have a space for informed and respectful discussion and not weak shitposting, thanks a lot

His imported super famicom was trying to warn him. Why didn't he listen /vr/?

>>5035398
Pretty suspicious if you ask me. I bet that insurance adjuster is not going to be happy.

>>5035516
that's the point you know

>>5035451
lol
True story
Unless they pretended cards after 1990 don't exist

>collect cards
>constantly obsessing over the temperature
>constant changes can warp the foil
>salty water can oxidize it
>humidity breeds mold
>FIRE

it's not a hobby you wanna take on, definitely
there's no insurance where I live either

>>5035578

If you collect carts you don't collect them for their roms but because they are the real thing. You could only upload the rom into the cloud, but what's the difference to just downloading a romset? And for 30 systems and 2000+ carts that's a BIG safe. Interesting question though how they would look now if they had been in a safe, surely not nearly as bad but would the immense heat once the metal heated up done much damage to them?

>>5035474
So, don't get attached to anything whatsoever just to prevent experiencing losing something?

You're a coward

>>5035652
Only the stuff close to the walls of the safe would be damaged beyond repair. Assuming the fire was put out within 30 minutes (which most fire safes worth a shit are rated for) there's be very little loss.

Fuckin blows.

I had a house fire happen once too, my games and laundry were all that survived. I was the lucky one though because I didn't bring much with me to this place since I had just moved there. My brother, who owned the place, lost everything. And his fucking junkie brother in law tried to steal and sell my game console after the fire was put out. luckily his junkie sister tracked him down and beat his ass to get it back. I hope they're both rotting in jail.

Thank god for emulation, anything lost can just be-ohhhh wait...

We'll never know but it would be ironic if the place burned down because he ghetto rigged 30 consoles at once.

>>5035398
yeah this will definitely happen to anyone that buys physical games

>>5035675

Thou shall not anger the emulator- gods for they might punish the heretics with a warm cleansing...

>>5035660
It's more about accepting the temporary nature of all things and not deluding yourself into thinking anything will last forever. Live in the present and enjoy the time you have, and don't waste your energy mourning the inevitable loss when what you have now is gone later.

>>5035672
why did you put your brother's house in fire anon?

>>5035694

Yes, and you can enjoy the temporary nature of a "collection" just the same.

Jealousy is one hell of a drug.

>>5035706
this. emulatorfags and steamfags act like they don't hoarde thousands of games on their hard drive.

>>5035712
We do, the difference is that with proper backups no housefire can destroy our collection.

>>5035712

They probably also spend/waste their money on actual stupid shit like Starbucks, Fornite skins and the new iPhone just to have gimmicky shit like face emojis.

>>5035714
I'll give you that man... I'll give you that. good think housefires are fucking rare and only happen to retards.

>>5035628
attachment is a secondary echo of being able to enjoy something in the moment, appreciating the past is fine, but the focus in the present should always be on what you can enjoy now and what can project prosperity into the future of those you care about

videogames belong in a home or arcade when they're new and in a museum when they're not, not in someone's personal vault waiting for catastrophe or abandonment

collecting is hoarding if you don't use your collection.

>>5035702
Wasn't my fault, it was my slum-lord Grandma's fault for selling him a house with a faulty water heater. And his fault for just leaving the house for the weekend when he smelled smoke coming from said boiler and not calling anybody.

>>5035714

Missing the point. People in these anti-collection threads attack collectors as mentally ill hoarders (not true. A collector would only be classified as having a disorder if his collecting habits had a detrimental effect on his work, home, family life and mental and physical health) when you're doing something not too dissimilar. If I had to armchair psych the anti-collection crowd, I would definitely say that self-righteousness, jealously, and illusory superiority all fuel their responses to the behavior of collectors.

>>5035447
The heat would melt it all. Paper burns but it’s very hard to reach a heat where it melts

>>5035723
>not in someone's personal vault waiting for catastrophe or abandonment

That's exactly what a museum is. I'm not a collector, but many do collectors see themselves as curators of sorts and will gladly share their collection with others, and get this, they'll do it for the favorite word of zoomers and millennials: FREE

>>5035674
Looking at the damage and how intense it is that might be exactly what happen.

>>5035709

I really wouldn't care about having that collection but I still feel really sorry for that guy, doesn't even have to be something physical, just something that after loss could not be replaced to imagine what that must be like. The only difference is that digital you can make copies, but still, if I imagine that all those irreplaceable videos would be destroyed with all their copies... oh man. People say "you still have your memories" but still...

A madman broke into my house last night and destroyed my retro vg collection (pic related) Pray for me!

>>5035786

You really never had the feeling of wanting to collect everything of something with a known fixed amount? Maybe not game carts but trading cards, stickers as a kid etc?
Is that really that far out that some people want collections of retro games but the real thing?

>>5035786
wow you are epic

>>5035398
>NES

>>5035628
>enlightenment
An elusive state of awareness at best. After the awakening, the laundry still sits in the washing machine. It is more worthwhile to pursue activities that promote the flow state, or 'ecstasis' than to chase an object that sits outside of the hamster wheel.

>>5035660
You seem quite inclined to argue.

It isn't wrong to possess things, but the attachment you make with them is what creates the sensation of loss and suffering.

It isn't an edict for you to adhere to, just something to know and respond to with your own agency.

>>5035815
Well there’s Castlevania 1, Ninja Gaiden, and Mario 3, but other than those, yeah who cares.

>2000 games
does anybody actually play that many? I only have a couple hundred and have ones that have been on the backlog for a year or two. Most of those games I only play through twice then never touch again.

>>5035398
I thought you were going to post photos of Brazil museum fire.

STOP MAKING HOUSES OUT OF CARDBOARD BURGERKEKS

>>5035837
>does anybody actually play that many?

not a chance, i bet hlf of those were only absolute shitty racing and platforming games.

These kind of poeple just buy anything and everything they dont yet have, even if they dont like the genre or have interest in the game.

>not having insurance
You don't do this, right?

>>5035637
>mfw I was really into baseball cards as a kid and have a whole bunch of 1991/92 cards.

>>5035398
Whenever I see destroyed games, I always wonder if they could just pull the boards out, clean them up, and get them working again if given replacement cases.

>>5035841
And give up all this?

Any bets on if they were insured or not?

>>5035841
A fire will still gut the house regardless of what the structure is made of. The difference is that with concrete and/or metal at least you have someplace to return to.

>>5035816
Welcome to 4chan. Your conceit not so much.

Yes, losing something you care about deeply sucks. You're free to live in mediocre complacency, but without risk your limited time in this crazy world is needlessly squandered; Robbing yourself of precious life lessons and experiences for the sake of comfort is, again, cowardly.

I get it. Don't buy games because you can lose them, which sucks. What sucks harder is never getting to experience them whatsoever out of paranoia.

>>5035904
That level of burn? Likely not, the boards are melted to crap and back. You'd be lucky to harvest a stray chip or two that may have survived but I doubt a one of those games could work.

>>5035919
You're probably going to have a tough time arguing against buddhist ethics. The best you can hope for is to pedantically bust him on some slightly misstated thing. He doesn't seem to have done that but it looks like you'll just stick words in his mouth and act like he did.

>>5035949
>You're probably going to have a tough time arguing against buddhist ethics.
You really shouldn't talk about anything other than retro games. Like, ever.

>>5035919
Some people would use these attachments to veil a deeper issue of mental health. Such loss not only inflicts pain but can even catalyse their destruction.

I didn't state that people should not own things, only that the attachment is what results in the suffering by their absence. I have lost things to fire, theft, time. It is worth it to have and feel these things at times, but when those experiences are too much, I can reflect on this simple principle and resolve this.

What do you gain from rejecting this philosophy without at least taking on some application for your life? Does it give you dissonance to do that?

>>5035807
sure but media that can be stored digitally is rather tongue in check. You want to own piles of stamps? Toys? I can understand it, it's very limited by means of how to gain them. But a video game is code and that can stored and played without physical media, thus collecting it is rather disingenuous.

>>5035956
You probably should listen more to everything.

>>5035963
Certainly not to anything you're saying. Not on the irrefutability of ethics, anyway.

You're a simple mind. Just accept it.

>>5035975
You clearly do not understand what Buddhist ethics are. You've already lost the argument you're trying to have.

>>5035398

This is why we emulate. Those games likely provided super good fuel for that house fire.

>>5035807
Hoarding is a mental issue please seek help

>>5035958
I'm not "some people", and making general statements about individuals is indicative you're more interested in bloviating your philosophy on /vr/ of all places over reaching mutual understanding. If someone is so mentally weak that they need materialism to make them happy, and that losing those things in a fire leads to suicide, they weren't worth anything to society or themselves anyhow. Cry me a river.

I've outright said you're allowed to live a mediocre life of complacency, but even you admit that these learning experiences are valuable, overwhelming as they can be. Refusing risk over safety isn't wrong, but it devalues your personal experience as you're not learning from failure nor being rewarded from success. The fact you don't want to do this all because of some fear of loss is pathetic and cowardly. Rejecting complacency doesn't give me dissonance, whatever the hell you meant by that, it gives me vigor and spirit. A sense of meaning and satisfaction in this world.

Now what kind of a guru are you, anyway?
Look here brother, don't waste your time on me

>>5035982
>You clearly do not understand what Buddhist ethics are.

Ironically enough, a Buddhist would actually be in favor of collecting in this case. I remember a story (likely a fable) about a Buddhist monk at a restaurant being served a steak. The vegetarian Buddhist ate the steak without question, which puzzled his companion. The Monk explained that the animal was already dead and it would've been a bigger sin to refuse the steak and let the animal die in vain. Summing it up, a Buddhist doesn't like to see anything go to waste. You can argue that "collectors" are rescuing "plastic crap" from winding up in landfills and at the bottom of the ocean, further polluting the environment (on this point, it also consumes less power to play an NES game on an actual NES than emulating it on a PC). Furthermore, it would be a "sin" in the Buddhist sense to discard perfectly working hardware and games just because they're technically obsolete and/or less convenient. If anything, our pseudo-Buddhist in question is actually demonstrating more of a materialist mindset because he's fetishizing convenience and technology above all else. I'd argue a "collectors" gains a deeper appreciation of the hardware/games because he's interacting with a historical object on its own terms, experiencing its qualities on a deeper level vis a vis loading a rom on Windows. The ritual of playing on old hardware is simply a more mindful engagement than mechanically and routinely clicking a mouse loading up roms spoonfed to you by the Internet.

>>5035982
>You clearly do not understand what Buddhist ethics are.
No, you don't understand the arbitrary nature of ethical axioms, and I really don't think this is the place to have a discussion about this, especially not with someone as harebrained as you, so maybe you shouldn't drag your little wikipeducated beliefs into this board, and talk about retro games instead. It's literally the only thing you're not completely clueless about.

>>5036015
>routinely clicking a mouse loading up roms
did you just imply that emulatorfags play video games?

>>5036010
If collecting is stupid then why do you want to collect stuff in a game? Are you getting paid for it? No, you do it because it's fun, same with real life stuff sometimes.

You'd swear we were talking about extraordinary amounts of money here, a couple of thousand dollars for a lifetime worth of a hobby, it's nothing to successful people. Sorry if your welfare money doesn't cover it.

>>5035815
BURN IN LAVA!

>>5036032
>If collecting is stupid then why do you want to collect stuff in a game?
did you just imply that emulatorfags play video games that aren't flavor of the month competition games like fortnite?
seriously I get what you're saying but you need to stop arguing with people that relate to the act of playing video games.

>>5036032
> Hoarding physical trash in your house is the same as collecting 100 coins in marios to bing bing wahoo 1up
Holy mental gimnastics batman
You really need some help dude

>>5036054
super mario 64 is literally the only game with collecting in it that this 10 year old league of legends champ is aware of lol

>>5036062
LoL has been out for like 10 years now
Is it /retro/ yet?

>>5036012
>>5036015
>>5036023
No, yeah. You're obviously a really happy guy.

>>5036032

The very fact "emulatorfags" are drawn into collection threads to troll/criticize leads me to believe they're motivated by jealously. We all emulate to some degree, even "collectorfags." For example, for all but the most well heeled collectors, amassing a large collection of upright arcade cabinets isn't feasible. MAME is a great alternative. But you won't find console/PC collectors who use MAME criticize someone who has an airplane hangar full of machines as wasting his money or being a mentally ill hoader. You would find an appreciation of the fact that someone is saving these machines from the dump. On the other hand, emulator only gamers are drawn into collection threads like moths to flames. A secure person really wouldn't give a shit about someone else's lifestyle choices. This kind of behavior is typically motivated by jealously.

>>5035398
This is why owning things as a source of happiness is a bad idea.

>>5036069
you tell me, it's the only game you play. how much have you spent on skins? how many roms are you hoarding?

>>5036072

Two of those response are criticisms against "the Buddhist." And yes, he's probably not a happy individual. A Buddhist enters any dialogue free of judgment. He has already "judged" collectors as being shackled by materialist attachment when the concept of "attachment" has nothing to do with physical things at all, but how you relate to things. A Billionaire with a hundred Yachts could be freer from attachment than a hermit who lives in the woods.

>>5036072
Thanks, I've moved on from losing my boyfriend to alcoholism and am happily engaged with a fellow vidya fan. She even bought Panzer Dragoon Saga. There's a reason I so vehemently disagree with lying down and dying with a whimper, because these tough experiences shape our moral and mental fortitude.

>>5036097

a buddhist would tell you to fully enjoy and explore your enjoyment of collecting.
a buddhist can be many things.
you can consciously collect things, or even amass a collection of things and be level headed and not obsessed.
also it's pretty funny what this thread has become, people trying to claim the authority of buddhism on the side of collecting vs not collecting. wow

The people coming in here and bashing a guy for having a big collection that he clearly cherished and lost, suggesting he should have just emulated are missing the point and are clearly jealous and salty. At best, you're just a cruel asshole who finds pleasure in others misery because you got plenty of your own to dole out.

You are pretty garbage people to come in here advocating for emulation, when I am sure you have some physical objects you love that would majorly suck if it burned up and was gone in a mere instant.

If you lost something you held dear, even if it's something as inherently replaceable as video games, would you not be bummed? Would you appreciate people showing up to tell you how your lifestyle choices suck and where you went wrong as if you haven't already considered the pros and cons?

I think everyone would appreciate that if you don't have something constructive or supportive to say then leave this guy alone. Take your cup of dark joy quietly and move on.

This isn't just about video games and what way you do or do not enjoy them, it's being an empathetic human being.

Also, the discussion on Buddhism is way off the rails and kinda missing the point and in danger of being as bad as the emufags. I think the motivation is well meaning but if your conclusion is "you had stuff, ur fault it burns lol try Buddhism" you aren't much better than they are in this thread.

Can't we all get on the same page, either empathize with this man or move on quietly?

>>5036109

Agree with everything, but I'm not claiming any authority of Buddhism. Just illustrating how that person in question is misapplying certain concepts (one thing is sure is that a Buddhist would not judge nor preach unless the troubled collector came to the Buddhist for council, in which case the Buddhist might see his collecting habits and how he relates to them as detrimental to his spiritual growth. Or maybe not. It might be something else in his life impeding that progress).

>>5036114
>reddit spacing
>expecting people to all feel the same way
>that wall of text
Yeah, what happened is sad, but don't go around expecting everyone to give in to hivemind mentality and pretend to care.

>>5036114
Of course not, jealousy begets pettiness. Nice thought, though. Shame folk are so incredibly insecure about sharing what they like that they have trouble enjoying it.

>>5036132
>Whining about Reddit spacing on 2x2chan
>In a thread actively disparaging its own user base

Maybe if you addressed his points instead of whining about inane garbage you wouldn't be so jaded

>>5036114
Excellent pasta.

The people coming in here and bashing a guy for having a big collection of child porn that he clearly cherished and lost are missing the point and are clearly jealous and salty. At best, you're just a cruel asshole who finds pleasure in others misery because you got plenty of your own to dole out. You are pretty garbage people to come in here advocating against pedophilia, when I am sure you have some children you love and would majorly suck. If you lost something you held dear, even if it's something as inherently replaceable as child porn, would you not be bummed? Would you appreciate people showing up to tell you how your lifestyle choices suck and where you went wrong as if you haven't already considered the pros and cons?
I think everyone would appreciate that if you don't have something constructive or supportive to say then leave this guy alone. Take your cup of dark joy quietly and move on.
This isn't just about children and what way you do or do not enjoy them, it's being an empathetic human being. Also, the discussion on legality is way off the rails and kinda missing the point. I think the motivation is well meaning but if your conclusion is "you raped children, ur fault it burns lol try Buddhism" you aren't much better than they are in this thread. Can't we all get on the same page, either empathize with this man or move on quietly?

>>5036132
I never expected anyone to care or sympathize. It's reductive to think that there are two options, care or troll. I addressed them as the most prevalent options.

I was making the point that coming up in here to bash this guy over his loss is pretty fucking gross.

>>5036149
If you want to see nice comments go read the facebook thread. But wait, there are people who would probably bash him even on facebook where their posts have names and maybe even photos attached.

>>5036145
I wrote that, and I laughed.

Thanks, man. Enjoy the pasta.

>>5035419

wasnt that the vault that had the seeds for the end of the world, and got flooded inside? yeah, Norwegian construction at its finest.

>>5035837
I'm certain that I had to have beaten 100-200 games at this point and definitely played even more than that. It is definitely more than possible with how short retro games can be and emulators being a thing.

>>5036152
>I never expected anyone to care or sympathize

>If you want to see nice comments go read the Facebook thread

Nice reading comprehension; I'll take the liberty of spelling this out.

By bashing on someone losing something dear to them, that makes you a dick. You're allowed to be a dick. Getting up in a huff when someone calls a spade a spade accomplishes nothing. Either own it or have some humility ya spineless dickhead

isn't funny and tragic that retro games will likely disappear over time due collecting?
If things were like in japan where you you buy a title only to play and sell afterwards they would keep last forever

>>5035637
are newer cards actually worth something again?

>>5036012
>broad statements about people
>welcome to 4chan

Also i neither claimed to be a buddhist nor told anyone what to do. Additionally I didn't claim to ne afraid of that suffering; i own many material things and you know very little about me. You seem tightly-wound. Maybe my being here is a good thing, in time. Hope you aren't as moody as these posts reflected.

>>5036103
I don't understand how someone else's liver failure can make you straight but somehow twice as much of a faggot.

>>5035398
OP is happy about other peoples bad luck. Even more proof OP is a poor or a child still.

>>5036010
Collecting =/= hoarding. Only a poor person would have to convince their tiny brain they are one and the same to make their pathetic life less miserable.

>>5035484
What kind of idiotic retard thinks this is hoarding?Look up the definition of hoarding and then feel even more dumb than you are.

>>5035608
t. poor person

>>5036319
So I take it you're going to ignore the difference between "individuals" and "people"; Not my fault your reading comprehension is garbage. I never said you were Buddhist, nor do I care, but you can't just go around saying "consumerism was a mistake" on a board based on hobbies and not expect some form of response. I also don't care if you don't practice what you preach, that would hardly be different from most of the dregs lurking about and assimilating popular opinion over formulating their own.

Moodyness? You're the one getting bent out of shape after realizing your proceletyzing is falling on absent ears.

>>5036354
It's adorable how your ignorance of sexual preference made you mash out incoherent nonsense. Insecure much?

>>5035880
If you're not a eurofag than you probably don't have it. From what I've learned most Americans don't even have a hospital insurance or a general health care program on a federal level and if the current administration gets what it wants that's not going to change I'm afraid.

>>5036451
This is an incredibly ignorant and child-like response. The OP post definitely has insurance. Most people in freedomland do.

>>5036040
THIS is supposed to be the new Powerpuff Girls? Might as well have called it the Adventure Time edition or a collection of Newgrounds shorts.

>>5036363
Not sure about that anon, but I for one, don't feel any smarter

>>5035474
What about attachment to a firearm to keep shooting CIAniggers chasing you for living off the grid in the woods?

>>5036257
There is a lot of truth to that. The picker mindset of westerners is destroying more than preserving

>>5036461
What do you mean new? It’s over 2 and a half years old

>>5036257
if things were more like in Russia where everything gets pirated and shared it would last multiple eternities

>>5036474
Yes, and? That's still more recent than the original show from the late 90s. Also, you do realize you're posting this on the board where people are supposed to discuss games that are released 18 years ago and earlier, right? Two and a half years ago is still relatively new.

another one of those threads that proves how shitty /vr/ is and that it's filled with insufferable mouthbreathers.

>>5036470
>The picker mindset of westerners is destroying more than preserving

That doesn't make any sense. How does curating a collection and keeping it in good condition "destroy it?"

>Your kids, kin, whoever is just gonna throw all your old shit away when you die.

Another dumbass argument I've heard from people that apparently don't live in the real world. First off all, there's a good chance that passion and preservation for games will be passed down to the kids and they'll keep the collection moving forward. If the kids don't want the collection for any reason, there's these things called estate sales, classified ads, etc. I seriously doubt anyone will throw away what might be worth a small fortune by that time. If for some reason the retro collecting market totally bottoms out and that collection is monetarily worthless and the kids do throw it out, then I guess it really wasn't worth preserving for future generations who won't appreciate it. But that's a remote possibility. Videogames have become pretty culturally important and I don't ever see videogame artifacts becoming worthless to the point where they're just thrown away en masse.

>>5035474
based and redpilled

>>5036469
acceptable side road on the path to nirvana

>>5035512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo-fXMxfN8E

>>5035512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo-fXMxfN8E

>>5036483
It’s only new if you are underaged

>>5036370
>but you can't just go around saying "consumerism was a mistake" on a board based on hobbies and not expect some form of response

Not everyone here is a collector. He was just pointing out that the guy in OPs pic tied a lot of his happiness and personal worth into material possessions he eventually lost.

All possessions are fleeting, but the cloud is eternal - Steve Wozniak (2002 IE6 launch party)

>>5036491
>How does curating a collection and keeping it in good condition "destroy it?"
for starters you got the OP's electrical fire. Also look at how you have to frame your argument, " How does curating a collection and keeping it in good condition" I said pickers, yet you had to put a halo on the actions in hopes it could build you a working argument because you know exactly what I was talking about in that post. Maybe I hit to close to home?
>First off all, there's a good chance that passion and preservation for games will be passed down to the kids and they'll keep the collection moving forward.
You don't have kids nor do you interact with them to any real level.
>there's these things called estate sales, classified ads, etc.
That's also assuming they care or will put in the time, that's also assuming they will keep it in good condition and not just leave it in a bad environment while they wait on that buyer -assuming- it's still worth anything, look at the Atari market.
> I seriously doubt anyone will throw away what might be worth a small fortune by that time.
you think things don't deflate over time? you know back in the late 90s a lot of Atria titles averaged $50 a cart? Now they are lucky to average $1. Why? Cause the generation that gave a shit about it is to old or dead to care and the upcoming generation has no investment in brands that they never grew up with. Time kills all things if the goal is just monetary value.
> then I guess it really wasn't worth preserving for future generations who won't appreciate it.
That's not why you perverse things anon.
>Videogames have become pretty culturally important and I don't ever see videogame artifacts becoming worthless to the point where they're just thrown away en masse.
how young are you exactly? That happens quite often because this shit is very generational. It's how this shit gets rare in the first place.

>>5036571
>I said pickers, yet you had to put a halo on the actions in hopes it could build you a working argument because you know exactly what I was talking about in that post. Maybe I hit to close to home?

Didn't hit "close to home" at all. How are pickers "destroying anything" when they usually sell their finds to a collector? Your logic and assumptions are utter shit here. I also don't get how referencing the house fire reinforces your point that people shouldn't have collections because it somehow increases the odds of it being destroyed. How does keeping games in constant circulation lessen those odds? If anything, it probably increases them.

>That's also assuming they care or will put in the time, that's also assuming they will keep it in good condition and not just leave it in a bad environment while they wait on that buyer -assuming- it's still worth anything, look at the Atari market.

It's obvious you only live on the Internet (NEET?) with your ROMS. No sane family members/friends ever just wantonly discard the estate of loved one to the garbage. Either out of emotional/attachment reasons or being flat out greedy. Go to any estate sale and you'll find bric a brac for sale that is pretty much worthless. The possibility a large videogame collection would just be thrown out is remote.

>you think things don't deflate over time? you know back in the late. Time kills all things if the goal is just monetary value.

Show me some examples of common Atari titles selling for 50.00 a cart in the 90s? I don't ever remember your Asteroids, Space Invaders, Pitfalls, etc, etc being 50 fuckin' dollars a cart. And Atari carts are basically at where NES, SNES might be in decade, and guess what? People still aren't just "throwing them away."

(cont'd)

>>5036571
>That's not why you perverse things anon.

Of course. But if future generations aren't motivated enough to preserve the past in this case because the games have no monetary value, then that's their problem, not the problem of the collectors who preserved/curated it. They essentially did their job on the preservation side. They can't control the enthusiasm/lack thereof future generations will have for 20th century videogames.

>how young are you exactly? That happens quite often because this shit is very generational. It's how this shit gets rare in the first place.

You nor I can really predict what type of entertainment future generations will be into, and it relates to my above point. If they don't care, it's their problem. I don't see that happening because human beings tend to enjoy preserving the past. You can still find/see all matter of tin toys, antique radios, antique tools, books, movie posters, art, pottery, etc, etc made decades to centuries ago.

People having extensive videogame collections really is a non-issue emulator-only gamers have blown out of proportion because of [insert cognitive distortion here].

>>5036571
>Cause the generation that gave a shit about it is to old or dead to care

Atari 2600 was the first system many 35-45 year old gamers played on. Plenty of those people are still alive and still give a shit. Atari 2600 games have low relative value because the supply is still fuckton huge, the games are more simplistic and don't have the replay value (unless you're into score chasing) as Gen 3 and above games, and yes, the brand connection isn't as strong across demographics as Nintendo. But Atari gamers are by no means "dying off."

This is how I know you're underage thinking the 2600 is something that people who are 60 years old and over gave a shit about. Again, it was the first system of many Gen Xers and even older millennials. And games never averaged 50.00 per cart.

>>5035398
I feel bad, but especially for anyone that has to smell all of that burnt plastic.

>collect over 200,000 roms on a 1TB HDD
>HDD dies
>it's fine because I can just download them all again

>>5035474
Needs shutter shades and a grille

>>5035515
This is the collectorapist mindset, destroy other's things to increase their own wealth

>>5035484
I've got at leas that many and I've just been buying what I like for over 30 years so that adds up...I have no plans to sell anything because I still play them.

>>5036592
>when they usually sell their finds to a collector?
That's actually very rare. Most plan that but won't put the leg work in. Or rather I'm taking this from the near hundred thousand unkempt storage sheds/units and just hoarders that die and had things that had value but let it go to waste or didn't keep it well protected.
>It's obvious you only live on the Internet (NEET?) with your ROMS.
personal attacks with no merit beyond insult makes me think you are either baiting or this topic is really sore on you.
>No sane family members/friends ever just wantonly discard the estate of loved one to the garbage.
yes they do you should read up on what gets thrown out into dumps, people have found fucking urns with human ashes on a common level. You seriously overestimate people's attachment to things that were of their parents.
>Go to any estate sale and you'll find bric a brac for sale that is pretty much worthless.
this is situational at best, when I live in OR that was the common site there but here in PA unless it sells it almost always gets trashed/incinerated because people have so much junk in the east coast it's overwhelming.
>I don't ever remember your Asteroids, Space Invaders, Pitfalls, etc, etc being 50 fuckin' dollars a cart.
you have to actually lived through it and they were, mid 90s they went for a mint because there was a market of 30 somethings that grew up with it. We both know sources are limited because of the infancy of the internet in that time.
>People still aren't just "throwing them away."
They are, numbers get smaller and with newer generations being more into digital I wager it will keep shrinking.

>>5036601
>They essentially did their job on the preservation side.
no they didn't. Unless they ensured it got recognized as something to be kept and held by actual curators and not some fatty that holds his self worth on what NES carts he owns or they made digital copies ensuring you don't even need the physical media they haven't done shit.
>I don't see that happening because human beings tend to enjoy preserving the past.
not at the level you think, most thrash it and are completely ignorant of anything before they were born, it's very rare to find some that takes a true interest in the past, more so for history and dates rather than entertainment goods.
> You can still find/see all matter of tin toys, antique radios, antique tools, books, movie posters, art, pottery, etc, etc made decades to centuries ago.

and in many cases they were taken care of by actual museums and organizations, not tubby Andrew that can't get over his lost childhood.

>People having extensive videogame collections really is a non-issue
ok and? The post was the idiots that rationalize that they are doing something good being a hoarder when they should just be honest because they are doing nobody any favors holding onto old carts in their home left victim to whatever poor quality of life they have around them.

>emulator-only gamers have blown out of proportion because of [insert cognitive distortion here].
Honestly that sounds more like the collectors. Emulator fags just don't see the value in it and seem to be baiting and poking collectors that, like you have done, go great lengths to rationalize collecting plastic junk in their homes.

>>5036683
>That's actually very rare. Most plan that but won't put the leg work in. Or rather I'm taking this from the near hundred thousand unkempt storage sheds/units and just hoarders that die and had things that had value but let it go to waste or didn't keep it well protected.

Doesn't seem to be too rare given the supply of retro games is no danger of shortening up. You can virtually find any game you want with a few key words entered into eBay. Try it sometime. However, yes, I do agree that the actual "hoarding" mentality (you people misapply the term. A person who has an organized, well cared for collection, no matter how large, that doesn't interfere with his well-being, isn't a hoarder) isn't detrimental to the preservation of videogames, but the guy who lost his collection to the fire didn't seem to be that. Want to see what hoarding of physical media looks like? Skip to 58:43. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkCMSrvOTAo&t=4970s

The way he has those records stacked will irreparably warp them. His "collection" has overwhelmed his living space (he also has records in the bathroom). Your youtube collectors like Metal Jesus, John Hancock, etc aren't even close to that guy's level of pathology.

On a side note, storage units aren't unkempt and usually climate controlled, and if the person in question fails to pay their bill, the unit goes up for auction and the contents are usually sold.

>personal attacks

That was a dig for your "you don't have children" dig at me. I know what you were implying with that.

>yes they do you should read up on what gets thrown out into dumps. You seriously overestimate people's attachment to things that were of their parents.

Exceptions aren't a rule. If what you said was really true, I wouldn't run into an endless amount of 50s Easy listening records, stereo consoles, and other artifacts of the Space Age generation. And I'm not even close to a hardcore thrifter/flea marketer/estate sale attendee. (cont'd)

>>5035419
but then you have to deal with moisture, not a good move bro

>>5035398
>OP so young he doesn't think straight
>Thinks collections are hoarding
>Misuses the word hoarding
>Would rather these games be in resellers hands, the dump, or some random shop no one will buy them from.

>>5036686
>no they didn't. Unless they ensured it got recognized as something to be kept and held by actual curators and not some fatty that holds his self worth on what NES carts he owns or they made digital copies ensuring you don't even need the physical media they haven't done shit.

Most people have home owners insurance in some capacity. You're also blowing the possibility of damage, theft, etc way out of proportion in hopes of rationalizing your retarded argument. If home collections were such a problem, we wouldn't have the fuckton of bric a brac that winds up in thrift stores and flea markets every day and week.

>most thrash it and are completely ignorant of anything before they were born,

See above. You're now actually proving you might be a NEET. Have you ever set foot inside a thrift store?

>ok and? The post was the idiots that rationalize that they are doing something good being a hoarder...

You honestly don't know what the fuck hoarding means. Stop using the term unless you're going to use it correctly. Yeah, carts and consoles sitting on a shelf, in a climate controlled environment, safe from the elements is really giving them "a poor life." Unless you're credulous enough to believe stories in the OP's pic are common. They aren't. Again, see the never ending amount of vintage items out there. Yeah, house fires are indeed an epidemic so I guess we all have no choice but to relegate our belongings to a "responsible" museum. Otherwise they're might not be any history left. (cont'd)

it looks like all nintendo shit that burnt down anyway and most games in the world are shit anyway so no real loss except for this collectorcucks money if he's not insured. if he attempts to rebuild his shit "collection" he's just gonna lose even more money due to wasted time tracking down all this crap again. just buy flash carts and stop being consumerist nerds who think spending money and putting stuff on a shelf is a achievement

>>5036686

>go great lengths to rationalize collecting plastic junk in their homes.

I'm not rationalizing anything. I don't have a large collection, but I like having the physical console and games because it's a more enjoyable experience than firing up a ROM. I have two choices. Emulate/real thing. The real thing is accessible (despite your delusional beliefs that every collection everywhere is destined to go up in flames or trashed unless tucked away behind museum glass) and relatively inexpensive. I choose real thing because I find it a superior, more involving experience. My argument here with you is this idea you have that 20th century retro video games are automatically destined for the dust bin and that collectors (not hoarders) are somehow doing a disservice to the duty of preservation by, um, taking fuckin' care of their collection. It makes no sense. If anything, you're trying to rationalize why it's not good to collect because you likely lack the means to have a physical collection and are expressing the classic sour grapes mentality. There's emulation threads on here daily and I've never once entered them to tell emulator gamers they're "poor" or are getting an inauthentic experience. That's relative. If they enjoy emulation over the real thing for whatever reason, cool. Anyone who's been on this forum for any amount of time will tell you that emulator gamers always fire the first troll shot. Collectors really couldn't care less about their terabyte drive filled with ROMs, but they sure care a hell of lot about a collector's shelf filled with games.

>We're just trolling, bro!
Sure you are. There's something deeper to it.

>>5036726
>consumerist nerds

How's the Starbucks bill this month? And did you really need a 2018 smartphone?

Buddhism can be a lot of things, in Tibet it was a way for the dominant caste to rape underage girls and ask tributes out of the populations, the Budda himself never said that slaves could enter the Sanga and meditate because then it would make society crumble, Buddhist in Sri Lanka and Myanmar kill muslims all the time(based) and generally buddhists are very conservative and for example hate scantily clad women and the likes, even the Dalai Lama went as far as to say that gay people generate bad karma for themselves.

There are so many different sects of Buddhism it's hard to claim it for a videogame discussion, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't give a shit about it.

>>5036732
got a £30 windows phone from 3 years ago and never go to starbucks unless i'm at an airport or something.

>>5036738

How's your furniture situation? I hope you bought quality, well built furniture second hand/or maybe got a hand me down from your parents/relatives/friends rather than buy some cheap-as-shit Chinese made garbage from Ikea or some other modern furniture retailer. Clothing situation? All hand me downs and thrift store pick ups, right?

I had a house fire 4 months ago.
I didn’t have fuckin 30 system and 2,000 games, but I did have 7 systems and near 300 games. All of which is gone too.

Nah it’s all just packed away at my grandmas because I was home and caught that shit early while it was burning my bathroom down.

>>5036746
>YOU'RE EITHER A 100% RAGNAR BENSON SURVIVALIST OR YOU'RE A CONSUMIST WHORE, THERE CAN'T BE A MIDDLE GROUND
>YOU ALSO HAVE TO EITHER LOVE OR HATE TRUMP, THERE'S NO OTHER WAY
>OH AND YOU ALSO EITHER LOVE GANGSTA RAP OR YOU'RE A RACIST BIGOT
You can enjoy the fruits of capitalism/socialism and still be critical of both.

>>5036746
yep pretty much. i don't buy second hand pants or socks but ebay is pretty good for second hand polo shirts,jackets etc.i i did buy an ikea unit to house my console collection but all other furniture i have is from second hand shops or donated by family/friends. old stuff is made to last unlike new shit

I had a house fire over 4 months ago. Now I didn’t have 30 fuckin systems and 2,000 games but I did have 7 systems and near 300 games. All gone.


Packed away at my grandmas while my house is getting fixed Because I was home for that shit and caught it early. Replace you old light/fan fixtures guys...

>>5036757

Lol. How is looking for quality used furniture (usually at a cheaper price than some modern fiberboard piece of junk from a retailer) and buying clothes from a thrift store having a survivalist mentality?

Just admit you got caught judging people as "consumerist nerds" when you yourself give into that same consumerist mindset by buying a piece of shitty furniture for a silly price because it "looks cooler" than the well built piece from the 60s grandma would've given you for free.

>>5036765
No you fucking retard I have old italian furniture from the 50s because it's sturdy as fuck, I'm calling you out for trying to bait the other guy into your "brilliant" argument.

You are clearly trying to say that you either go 100% secondhand/recycled or you're the same as some retard spending $2000 on NES games.

You are dishonest.

>>5036759

Good for you. Ignore my most recent reply. It was obviously someone else chiming in. Anyhow, what attracts me to the real hardware/carts is that it is still lasting in this day and age, and I believe it's wasteful (personally) to discard things that work fine. If I can find a use for something, I will.

>>5036773
>You are clearly trying to say that you either go 100% secondhand/recycled or you're the same as some retard spending $2000 on NES games.

There's no "dishonesty" here. The "brilliant argument" from your lot is that it's irrational and blindly consumerist to spend any amount of money of retro video games when emulation exists, a cheaper and "more rational" alternative that, according to you, skirts the consumerist mentally because you're not paying for nor displaying your collection. You're implying that collectors are collecting to make some kind of personal statement about themselves (i.e. a sort fashion statement). To you, gaming should be purely functional and just about playing the game, nothing else.

It's easy to flip that argument on you. There is absolutely no reason to buy new clothes and furniture when there is a limitless supply of used goods in that regard. If you bought a new shirt because "it looked cool," in lieu of buying a used shirt that might've not looked as cool, then you are committing the same fuckin' "consumerist sin" as the collector, buying something for other than its pure function in order to make a statement. So how much cash have you dropped on new clothes (or "cool looking" vintage clothes marked up at hipster prices)?

>>5036757

>You can enjoy the fruits of capitalism/socialism and still be critical of both.

That does not sound critical anymore, that sounds HYPOcritical...

>>5035432
this is the lesson

>>5036773
>You are clearly trying to say that you either go 100% secondhand/recycled or you're the same as some retard spending $2000 on NES games.

And to add, this is a strawman. I never said he needs to go 100% full second hand for everything as I know there's modern things we "need" to meet the demands of modern home/work life. But clothes and furniture are pretty much agnostic on that front, and yes, you are the same as some "retard" who spent 2000.00 on his NES collection (seriously, is that really a lot of money? If he's been collecting for 10 years, that's 200.00 per year) if you spent 2000.00 on your non-work wardrobe when so many free/inexpensive alternatives exist.

>>5036705
>On a side note, storage units aren't unkempt and usually climate controlled, and if the person in question fails to pay their bill, the unit goes up for auction and the contents are usually sold.
I went to a storage auction once several years ago. It was kinda fun, but nothing of interesting to me really.

>>5036816
Are you swearing allegiance to an economic system when you partake in it?
It's money stuff, if it's convenient FOR YOU it's good if not it's not and you are free to critique the parts you don't like unless you're some kind of one-minded individual.
>>5036793
My apologies anon but it sounded like you were conning the other guy into a strawman argument.
That said buying a new shirt instead of a used one is completely different from buying a used game instead of emulating for the simple fact I am getting pretty much the same thing(sans emulation bugs if emulating N64/PS2/more complex consoles) for a fraction of the price(a modded wii on an old CRT I have since 98'), while a new shirt is completely different from an old one, and for example for an office job you will require at least a collared shirt, but now I', diverging, and anyway I get most of my clothes from little markets because I like the looks and they cost 1/10th of what they cost in stores.

As per furniture I have old ass 50s/60s stuff from my grandma and I sink most of my hobby money into drawing and painting stuff for old historical miniatures, if you're interested in my blog.

>>5036816
>that sounds HYPOcritical...>>

Emulator fags are. Their argument boils down to that if a gamer enjoys the "gaming hobby" outside of purely functional means, he's engaging in some type of sheep-like consumerist behavior. Fact is, our critics in question most likely consume many things for reasons outside of their pure functional intention. Clothes is an obvious one. They're also guilty of simplistic black/white thinking and reduce everything to a zero sum affair, thinking that a collector enjoying the aesthetic design of a console or a game's box art is somehow taking away focus from the game.

>>5036730
>I'm not rationalizing anything.
>makes a paragraph

>>5036845
>That said buying a new shirt instead of a used one is completely different from buying a used game instead of emulating for the simple fact I am getting pretty much the same thing

It really isn't, unless the shirt is totally trashed. I take the emulator/real argument is that you don't see the point in paying for a real game because all you're concerned about is the essential function (the gameplay. Not the packaging, artwork, real controller, experiencing old hardware, etc) An old shirt in good condition that is your size will provide the exact same function as a new shirt in your size (job requirements aside). If you choose the more expensive new shirt (or even a more expensive older one) because you prefer the design, you are basically paying for bells and whistles that serve no practical function other than placation to your aesthetic taste. Once you go beyond acquiring things simply for their function, you're being a "consumer." And I don't see a problem with that. What is the problem of preferring something functional but that also has aesthetics you prefer? I prefer the aesthetics of consoles (because I like looking at them) over an emulation box of any kind (PC, Wii, RapPII, etc). I prefer games over ROMs for the same reasons. So yes, if chair A has a boring, quotidian functional design that doesn't engage me, I will pay more for chair B that does (as long as the core function is the same).

>>5036857
>argument boils down to that if a gamer enjoys the "gaming hobby" outside of purely functional
The argument is it's stupid as fuck to limit yourself and waste money. Most here don't give a shit you want to play games, most likely don't care you want to collect them. What they care about is a lot of people wanting games just because they are worth money. That's really it, if tomorrow the value drop to nothing you see the market go almost exclusively emulation which is telling as to why they do this shit.

>engaging in some type of sheep-like consumerist behavior.
Not sure it isn't when you have people over spend and waste hours collecting rare games they will never ever play or only care because it's rare.

>our critics in question most likely consume many things for reasons outside of their pure functional intention.
Right, but did you ever consider the limits of it? Most here would likely mock a guy that collects rare vhs tapes of films that are readily available for streaming/dvd, yeah you can have your shit but everyone has a right to call it shit, you don't get to be immune just because the onlooker has a flaw too.

> They're also guilty of simplistic black/white thinking and reduce everything to a zero sum affair
That's how you are taking it. You are trying to justify something no one can stop you from doing, which implies there is a small voice in the back of your head telling you that you are fucking up.

>thinking that a collector enjoying the aesthetic design of a console or a game's box art is somehow taking away focus from the game.
1. most don't, there is nothing artsy about expensive game box art. There is also nothing stopping most from just getting a poster of said box art or just collecting the box art.
2. taking focus away isn't the argument, the weird lying to yourself about why you collect physical media is.

You want to hoard? Hoard. You want to dress it up as "curating" you are a huge faggot and everything wrong with retro

>>5036893
>That's really it, if tomorrow the value drop to nothing you see the market go almost exclusively emulation which is telling as to why they do this shit.

Bingo! I'm sure there are some fags that will try and go "oh not me!" but the truth is this fad and board completely follows with what's expensive and highly praised.

>>5036893

Looking at OP'S pic the way the games have been stored, neatly packed inthe shelves in clear order that is definitely not hoarding

>>5036914
Your falling for the memes that hoarding is only when they just toss it around. That’s not the case. When you own shit for the sake of saying you own it, it’s hording.

>>5035398
>pirates call them "backups"
>but retail games collectors don't keep real backups

Why are pirates smarter than you?

>>5035398
Hope that guy had insurance on all that.

>>5036548
I didn't say everyone was, my point is that despite trying to distance oneself from collecting, you're still doing it with roms as they still exist on a physical drive somewhere. Hobbies inherently require some level of consumerism; Even poetry needs paper. Additionally, we don't know for certain just how much happiness and self worth he staked on his collecting, that is entirely projection from each user on here.

The cloud is as eternal as its upkeep (read: not). Make an actual argument

>>5036924
The only way to keep a "real" backup is to buy a second copy of the game and keep it elsewhere.

>>5036932
Well considering he is in a ward now getting therapy it’s pretty damn clear it meant a lot to him. And it had to have a lot tied to his personal happiness otherwise why have all that shit?

>>5036950

He is? Oh boy. Then again a housefire is a pretty good reason for it even if you did not have a huge collection of sth. you held dear...

>>5036914
>only untidy or disorganized people can be hoarders
Yeah, okay.

>>5036950
Oh, I didn't realise the natural reaction to a house fire is dispair. I'm sure his dispair is entirely because of material things lost and not the possibility of losing his life. Thanks for explaining that.

Seriously though, it's not something he's gonna kill himself over. He has a house, I'd argue that means he's married, which means he has a life outside gaming.

>>5035482
>we found a copy of Duck Hunt on Craigslist for 43 cents. Multiply that by 2,000. Decrease it by 20% for admin fees. Here’s your $750. By the way, your premiums are being increased next year by $850.

>>5035398
>left his CRT plugged in without powering off the surge protector

>>5036983
I bet this is what started the fire. Those things get hot as fuck and all it takes is a speck of flammable dust to ignite.

>>5036974

>I'm sure his dispair is entirely because of material things lost

Yes? Why would you be in despair that you could have lost your life when you didn't? That would be more like PTSD but not despair. After the first shock and then relief that you yourself are safe typically comes the despair about the material things, like you gone home, the stuff that was in there etc. It would be pretty stupid to have despair because you COULD have died- you didn't. But you lost all your stuff and a home...

>>5036720
>Most people have home owners insurance in some capacity
60% in the US do and it's not registering current value. The work to go though that would never insure full returns.
>wouldn't have the fuckton of bric a brac that winds up in thrift stores and flea markets every day and week.
different anon but this is enforcing my point that this is hoarding issues. Also if you have been to flea markets you know they are not doing what they should to keep them in good condition.
>See above.
you are starting to sound like a NEET because if you've been to flea markets you can tell by the age of the people that they are shopping for stuff that was relevant to their generation
>You honestly don't know what the fuck hoarding means.
>stock or store of money or valued objects, typically one that is secret or carefully guarded
>amass (money or valued objects) and hide or store away
I do, and if you have hundreds of video games in your house you're a hoarder.
>Yeah, carts and consoles sitting on a shelf, in a climate controlled environment, safe from the elements is really giving them "a poor life."
Most don't and you get situations like the OP where the idiot cased an electrical fire because of his collection.
>(cont'd)
I'm getting concerned you are the NEET here needing to waste multiple post that can be summarized into "no u"

>>5035398
This is oddly satisfying
I think I actually hate collectorfags despite having a fuckton of physical media myself

>>5036730
>I'm not rationalizing anything.
Dude, come on, you are wasting two posts and making walls of text just to argue your not a pos. It's pretty damn clear you are.

> but I like having the physical console and games because it's a more enjoyable experience than firing up a ROM. I
Same but I'm honest in it: It's archaic and unneeded. Also it's what I grew up with still with me as oppose to actively hunting for new stuff. I just emulate/burn what I don't own, it's disingenuous to want to own these games after they gain value, it just projects issues imo.
>despite your delusional beliefs that every collection everywhere is destined to go up in flames or trashed unless tucked away behind museum glass
to be fair, entropy comes to everything and everyone, there is nothing "noble" to owning a pile of rare games, other than to just say you own them.
>that collectors (not hoarders) are somehow doing a disservice to the duty of preservation by, um, taking fuckin' care of their collection.
you are starting to sound like you are really sensitive on this topic. Like mommy and daddy don't like your hobby level. Also I think all anon was getting at was this: You want to own games? No redeeming value but whateves. You think you are doing anything good doing it? No, There is nothing noble about it. Honestly it's a moot point if you are or are not helping keep them around, that's a secondary or later goal as to why you do it.
>Anyone who's been on this forum for any amount of time will tell you that emulator gamers always fire the first troll shot.
for good reason look at the (You)s you are giving, poking an emulator anon won't do shit, poking a physical collector of anything can stir up emotions really easy.

>>5037046
I'm >>5037035 >>5037051 and I agree with you for different reasons. Had a lot of friends that got into the retro bug in 2008, the emulator players in the community were chill and friendly and they actually want to play games. The collector side was insufferable because it was either nothing but dick measuring contests or idiots that never played the media they collected. It gets rather disheartening when you meet someone that has copies of good games and brags about them but when you want to talk about the content and experiences of the game and they just give you that thousand yard stare that tells you they never even fired it up once it makes you wonder what are they replacing from their lives for that hunk of plastic.

>>5037051
poking a physical collector of anything can stir up emotions really easy.
>>5037058
>it up once it makes you wonder what are they replacing from their lives for that hunk of plastic.
wife, kids, a job worth having, being something loved ones would be proud of.
I mean there is a reason most of these hoarders are fat balding men nearing ages they shouldn't still be alone in.

>>5037046
>oddly satisfying someone's house and cherished collection burned down.
yeah... maybe you should see a professional about that, not kidding.

>>5037065
Says the guy hording 20+ year old junk.

And they say /vr/ isn’t /v/

>>5037075
I'm actually glad that these containment threads have become more refined. I think it's actually making a difference

>>5036469
if only it helped him against the train

RIP Terry

>>5037073
You're the person calling it "junk" and "hoarding" while they have no relation to reality. The words you use to describe anything in this world are irrelevant and have no meaning because you're a disturbed psychopath.

>>5035958
Hey siddartha, go back /x/ with your enlightenment bullshit ruse, fagot.

i must consume

Trully sorry for that guy. Shit must be devastating.

>>5035837
>he plays retro vidya

Poor guy

Hope he at least found some enjoyment playing most of those games

>>5037380
>implying he played even 1% of those games
Hoarding is a mental illness. The supply of these old games is already dwindling, imagine how many would still be in usable condition in the hands of whoever else if he didn't hoard them all to be burnt away in a housefire.

I'm worried about the longevity of my discs. I've lost a few saturn games to rot already. Granted they all came from the same seller so I can o my assume they came from a high humidity area. My dry basement is the safest place for my horde

>>5037389
Is obsessively trolling normal people because they collect videogames and shock don't play them all a mental illness?

>>5037389
Well then... I hope he at least got some enjoyment from looking at the shelves or posting about them on the internet

>>5037408
seething

>>5037408
Normal people don't stash thousands of games in a basement where they slowly rot away.
>>5037410
If that's what he used them for he already got plenty of enjoyment out of them.

>>5037389
happenstance my man. who is to say those games wouldnt have been in a used game store or some storage unit? they could have been in circulation, but i doubt it. theres not many complete boxed retro games that are in circulation. alot of them have been snagged up by collectors. hoarding is very different from what the OPs pic shows. these pics show a well maintained collection, not a shit just shoved everywhere with no rhyme or reason to why you have shit teetering on each other on the verge of an avalanche. hoarding involves being dirty, unorganized, lack of coherence in your "collection", acting ignorant toward your lack of direction and organization, emotional attachment of extremely minor pieces of a "collection" like the spince card to an extremely common sega saturn game. thats hoarding, this dude just had the cash to spend on things he actually cares about. hoarders dont care about their shit, because they treat it all like trash anyways.

>>5036974
Jesus Christ you're really fucking digging your heels in and its getting ridiculous.

If he wasn't devestated by his loss he wouldn't have made the post in the OP. It's obvious this fire took something valuable out of his life and he feels a massive sense of loss.

Why are you in such denial?

>>5036746
Not him, but when i moved out and began to live on my own, I used to check rich neighborhoods at night to see if somebody was throwing out some stuff I could use- I ended up getting a 28" flat screen TV, a DVD/VHS combo (in perfect state) and some furniture that only needed a new coat.
You wouldn't believe the stuff that some people throws out.

>>5037441
kekd

>>5036370
>mocks reading comprehension in the face of contradiction
>"consumerism was a mistake"

Using quotation marks really ties a bow on your foolish post.

I am certainly enjoying a mood from this, but it's far from "moodyness"

>>5037441
>that feel when you are not alone
I scored a fucking Jap Sega Saturn a month ago lurking and digging like a racoon in a gated communities trash day. Figure it was broke but after getting cables hook up, it boots and seems working order. All I can guess is they were tossing out stuff from the attic because their dumpster was full of 90s shit.

>>5037463
When I was 8 I found a VCR by the dumpster and took it home. It worked until I tried to rewind the tape and it all but tore it apart. Took my parents hours to get it out of the machine and that night it went right back to the trash.

>>5037463
The stuff I picked up wasn't mixed with trash, it was just on the curb next to their trash bins.
I only had to add a new varnish coat and some glue to make everything clean and firmer again.

>>5035398
That fucking sucks... my god. That's why we have roms. That's why we have this shit backed up. My god what a loss. :(

>>5037471
You could have just bought a tape rewinder which is what people should have been using to begin with.

>>5037471
so far it seems operational, only one of the games I found with it work without a ram cart or AR/Gameshark but it's running fine. Went back the next week hopping I find all the other parts, found the controller which prompt me to just buy the power hook ups and a few more games but no ram cart or hook ups. That one was full of toy shit from the 90s like TMNT, GiJoe dolls and Toy Biz marvel figures. I didn't have the means to take them all so I just grab the SS stuff and a Cobra Commander doll and booked it.

>>5037474
that brings up a good question.

is this guy allowed to play backups of the games that were destroyed in the fire, if he had backups of those games? why else would you have backed up roms? in the event of an accident you had a "backup." is this a legal loophole?

>>5037486
Technicalities needed for this:
Proof you were the original buyer of the products
Proof owned the backups while owning the property
(debatable) Proof you made the backups yourself
Agreements you have never and will never share them

That said the odds of ever going after a lone anon that owns the roms but dosn't distribute them is very low

>>5035419
>Build space age bunker designed to hold seeds of the world from before GMO introduction.
>Designed to last centuries
>Floods after a few years

Keeping anything of value in vast amounts is asking for catastrophe. In the case of the "gamer" I would wonder what half-assed surge strip with 18 things plugged into it burst into flames. Some extension cords get hot.

If everyone escaped with their lives, I don't feel any remorse for the collection of games.

I have a full setup atarii in storage at moms. My brother has a few of my PSX systems and game collection & our family's nes from when we were growing up. My sister has my N64 and all the hardware and games. Mom has our family n64 we grew up with and still uses it herself. She likes MK64. Sister in law has wife's family Snes. Why? I keep my personal shit spread out because its a lot. My n64 collection is 45 of the absolute best games on the system, with no sports bullshit (nba hangtime aside). 4 controllers/mempacks/rumble packs all Nintendo brand. Psx collection similar WITH the box. The other year I had an incident in my house, and only lost my big box pc collection. It would have been everything had I not spread it around.

I use flash carts for replacement systems now. I still have a few psx in storage. The amount of "collection" I actually have would fill a room and then some. Fuck that shit. My current setup is totally flash carts & wii vc/emulation. I don't care if I lose this shit. I can replace it or not and be ok with that. I don't need to take photos of my collection to justify my fake friends to make youtube bucks either. I do cooler shit then play video games lol. I don't collect games either. I just retain.

>>5037486
I would say yes he is legally entitled to play them that way. It seems to me like the only time he would relinquish that right would be if he sold them as he would be selling all of the rights to play them to someone as well. I wonder if, going by this logic, you could now buy the rights to play them off him.

>>5037510
>I wonder if, going by this logic, you could now buy the rights to play them off him.
No there were laws shot up in 2010 that Steam help legislators make that make it impossible to do without a provider that sold it to you being the middleman for it.

>>5036974
>He has a house
nope, parents place, yes he burn down his parents house with his collection
>I'd argue that means he's married
wrong again

>>5037505
How about next to Null. I have way over ten thousand roms. I own a lot of games. Even my steam account is over 1K, but I do not own any where near the games that I do for roms. I give ZERO shits. I grew up as a Pirate. I purchase way more as an adult than I did as a child.

Piracy = Free Advertising.

>>5037507
I keep almost everything unplugged at all times. I think I have one SNES plug that I've left plugged in. I should probably go get that unplugged to.

>>5037540
I took it to the other extreme and have everything attached to a CyberPower Sinewave UPS System (1000 with 8 ports) my priorities are a bit fuck up but I don't have to stress about surges or blackouts killing my 30 year old systems.

>>5037540
>I keep almost everything unplugged at all times.
I keep my psx unplugged. I know I should surge strip them all, but I only have 3 systems plugged in. I understand electricity, and respect it. At any random point during the day, my tv, a wii and a n64 are all in that one outlet. I don't care if they get fried. The psx is unplugged because it is the 1001 model...I like to keep it cool.

>>5037556
>I took it to the other extreme
I have other hobbies (reef fish tank) and we recently had some power issues with trees, and it cooked a few of my high end dc wavemakers. They were not on a surge strip DERP. I never believe the memes until that week....Also lost the furnace circulation pump AND the pcb board that powers the pump got cooked. It was pretty serious, and I still question if it was the power line or if we got a direct hit of zap-zap-bang. It was stormy.

You retardo kids are a bunch of fucking idiots.

Right now i have a TV, wii, wii u, switch, xbox one s, mega drive all plugged in the same power splitter. Plus my classic nes AND classic snes plugged in my tv.

Damn, I feel bad for the dude. I bet the house is a loss too, even if just that room burned. Could you imagine the toxic fumes coming off all that shit? Hope he had insurance.

This is a risk of hoarding anything, hopefully it gives him a new lease on life and brings happiness after the initial mourning has passed. I'm not saying this to be a dick either, honestly you can get to a point that your stuff owns you and your freedom.

>>5035635
I imagine we'll see more of this once the bubble bursts.

>>5037480
We later found out more things were wrong beyond just the rewinder. I've found stuff in the trash that works but the majority are broken in some way before it got to the trash.

>>5037507
You sound like a happy person, really. Good post.

>>5035959

You can also take pictures of stamps and have books with pictures of stamps. How are stamps real, it's just the pictures on them that's worth anything. Now do you see where your argument is a bit silly? You can get enjoyment out of owning something and never using it. How many toy collectors actually play with their toys? How many stamp collectors use them to send letters? How many salt and pepper shakers can one collector use at a time? How many sneakerheads have shoes that are too expensive to wear? Collecting is all like this, it's about amassing things that you find pleasurable even if you don't use them.

>>5035474
This is fucking retarded advice
>Bro I'm starving I need food
>Ur attached to food lol thats why ur starving xddDD

>>5036023
Guy's what is zen? It's what you make of it.

>>5036132

>>5037717
The point.
^
^
^
Your head.

>>5037717

You would be surprised how much better your life would be if you fasted every once in a while. Try a 3 day fast and tell us you don't feel better.

Obviously you need food to live, but lack of food sometimes is beneficial.

>>5037527
Excuse me for being optimistic. At least he learned something from his carelessness.
>>5037460
Do you really deny that "casting off worldly possessions to prevent sorrow" was the argument? The mood you're communicating by picking on trivial grammar rules instead of addressing my point is saltiness. This isn't a thesis ya know
>>5037437
You're missing my point, I'm not denying he feels a sense of loss; Posting his lost collection in a gaming group is quite apparently to gain sympathy as a coping mechanism so he can make peace with it. If he posted a more generic "my house caught fire" in a more general group, the response wouldn't nearly be as passionate or genuine; He was choosing the most effective place for sympathy, that's it. This whole conversation has revolved around the merit of collecting, centered around the grief of losing the collection, and my whole argument is how life isn't without risk and responsibility. He wanted the collection, he had the responsibility of curating it, and was burned by a mistake. That's life, and it shouldn't be avoided.

I'll reiterate; It's not incorrect to live a mediocre and complacent life, that just makes you a mediocre and complacent person. Your personal values will determine if this is valuable or not.
>>5036989
I suppose I need vocal inflection for sarcasm. A choice you personally made (like plugging in every console you own at once) which nearly killed you would easily disturb. You'd be overly careful with everything you do out of paranoia for a good while.

Are you saying people with PTSD don't experience dispair? How do you think veterans felt making it home after watching their friends die in front of them? Do I really have to explain this?

>>5037610
Those are rookie numbers. Brag when you're using two surge protectors and see if anyone cares then (they won't)

>>5036365
You got me. Now take a look at these boxes containing limited edition PS4s.

>>5037713
Someone finally took the bait! You are exactly right about you could do that with stamps and guess what? When the means of getting pictures and prints as well as making them yourself was easier, the stamp collecting market shrank greatly! Thank you and good night.

>>5036365
poor people are the retards that need to own thousands of games they could never play in their lifetime.

>>5037853
A lot of markets went the way of the dodo when the means were made more available, give it another generation and the vast majority one will give a shit about collecting physical hardware like those old people they see.

>>5036893
>The argument is it's stupid as fuck to limit yourself and waste money. Most here don't give a shit you want to play games, most likely don't care you want to collect them. What they care about is a lot of people wanting games just because they are worth money. That's really it, if tomorrow the value drop to nothing you see the market go almost exclusively emulation which is telling as to why they do this shit.
"Wasting money" is relative. Here's an example of you projecting, thinking everyone has the same living situation/income as you. A "collector" who drops 400.00 on a rare game is like you spending 1.00 to buy a taco.

>Not sure it isn't when you have people over spend and waste hours collecting rare games they will never ever play or only care because it's rare.
"Overspend." See above. They're not "overspending" on anything, since value is relative. Your nor I have no place to judge what a person does with their time and money. I can understand the argument that shelf collectors are doing a disservice to retro gaming since they're denying other players access to games those other players would actually play, but, oh, emulation/flash carts have made that core function of video games (gameplay) post-scare, so you have no argument in that regard either.

>Right, but did you ever consider the limits of it? Most here would likely mock a guy that collects rare vhs tapes of films that are readily available for streaming/dvd, yeah you can have your shit but everyone has a right to call it shit, you don't get to be immune just because the onlooker has a flaw too.
No, you have absolutely no right to call it shit. Your mentality here is nothing more than the petulant "stop liking what I don't like!" And no, the poster in question I was talking with doesn't have "a flaw." There's absolutely nothing wrong with paying for "form" as well as function.

(cont'd)

>>5037870
>it's the (cont'd) guy again
we get it. This hobby is all you have, the games are your wife and the physical media your children.

>>5037850
Either you work retail (good for you) or you bought a shitton of those to sell to retards, in which case good for you.

>>5036893

>That's how you are taking it. You are trying to justify something no one can stop you from doing, which implies there is a small voice in the back of your head telling you that you are fucking up.
No, that's how it is. You are creating a false dilemma. What small voice? Projection again? I'm not a shelf collector. I've spent peanuts on my "collection," acquiring most of it before the "boom." And it's all of 400 large spanning various systems. I'm drawn into this debate because the emulation crowd's arguments are total and utter shit. Maybe I need to justify wasting time on picking apart idiotic arguments that are so obviously shit, they're not worth the time.

>1. most don't, there is nothing artsy about expensive game box art. There is also nothing stopping most from just getting a poster of said box art or just collecting the box art.
"Stop liking what I don't like."

> the weird lying to yourself about why you collect physical media is.
How am I or anyone who collects physical media "lying to themselves?" Another projection.

>You want to hoard? Hoard. You want to dress it up as "curating" you are a huge faggot and everything wrong with retro
Again, you don't know what the fuck hoarding is. To repeat, I don't have a large collection, and I have no intention of growing it, because personally, I find the prices too high. But I'm not going to sit here and whine about shelf collectors being "huge faggots" and "everything wrong with retro," because they are fundamentally doing nothing wrong. They aren't denying me from playing any game because emulation/flash carts exist. It sounds like you have the issues here because you feel they are denying you in some capacity. You want to play original copies of rare games? Then pay for it.

>>5037826
I never said to not have things, only that feeling strong attachment to those things causes the suffering by their absence. For you to interpret and argue this truth the way you have is why i addressed your underlying compulsion to argue.

That wasn't a remark on your grammar, but your willingness to misconstrue and polarise the discussion perhaps so that i would be more aligned with your point by way of opposing it.

It isn't working very well, if that's what you're consciously trying to do.

If it were me I'd just toss myself in the fire along with my game collection.

there should be a separate emu/vr/ board since I cant really consider emulation players retro gamers.

>>5035398
>I have nothing.
He still has Toto by Africa.

>>5038020
you get lonely very fast

>>5036451
Trust me, if an American has any insurance it will definitely be on their stuff.
Suggesting that anyone, anywhere, would own a house worth tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars and not insure it for an absolute pittance in comparison is fucking lunacy.
And don't blame them for their health insurance dissonance, their government is run by corporations who benefit from their ailments and drugs.

>>5038020
That doesn't make any sense. There are few serious discussions about games that actually benefit from this distinction.

>not backing your collection up on the cloud

>>5038069
>There are few serious discussions about games

ftfy

wow.
>over 250 posts in 24 hours

How To Get /vr/ Mad, The Thread: Turbo Edition.

>>5038105
the only thing that collects faster are eceleb threads when they don't get deleted.

>>5038069
>That doesn't make any sense.

Makes perfect sense. Playing a rom on a post-2000s PC or Wii with an XBOX controller isn't an authentic retro experience. XBOX controllers, Wiis, Raspberry Pis, etc didnt exist then.

>I use flash carts faggot

Those didnt exist either. I also think this is what burns emulation only gamers up. Try as you might you aren't getting the real experience no matter how many garbage USB Snes, Mega Drive, etc controllers you buy from Chinkexpress or how many shaders you use to make the make the games look halfway decent on an lcd. This is why emufags lash out with the hoarder and other insults toward gamers who can actually afford to play on the real thing.

>>5038115
Playing a ROM on a flashcart with the original console and controller is identical to playing with an original cartridge.

>>5035398
insurance covers shit like that. what a moron

>>5038128
>Playing a ROM on a flashcart

It isn't. Why does something get into a retro/vintage hobby? To experience what something was like during that time. Flashcarts didnt exist. To change games, you had to remove the cart and insert a new one not just load up a different file.

>autist being obsessive over details like that

Not really. I dont care that you enjoy flashcarts and emulation, but by definition you arent having a true retro gaming experience. Youre cheating using a modern convenience.

>>5038142
>Flashcarts didnt exist

Found the retard

i am so srry for ur loss be brave gurl

>>5038145

Show me a flashcart from 1989 that accepts SD cards full of roms downloaded from the internet.

>found the retard trying to equate 100 in 1 bootleg carts with modern flashcarts.

>>5038138
Insurance of non-critical items is for people who don't understand how probability works.

It it as dumb as gambling, maybe even a little worse due to the fact that you'll probably take less care of your items when you know they're under insurance. Maybe you get unlucky, better to face that possibility than a losing situation where the house (insurance company here) always wins.

>>5035474
I'm about to throw out what basically amounts to 3 rooms worth of pristine old vidya shit. I know this is the right decision. All it does is sit and persist in my possession, it may as well be garbage already.
I'm ready for this.

I'm tired of shelf collectors

>>5038147

>mfw I think of you hurting

>>5038154
If you paid money for it, it is garbage

>>5038156
We all are. But most “serious” collectors are insufferable, somewhere the passion leaves them and it’s just about the cred of saying they have shit that other losers might value too. It’s a serious place holder for what should have been a good life.

>>5038154
This must be exciting for you. What brought you to see the desire for change like this? Was it the weight of the ownership alone? Are you looking for change specifically?

>>5038173
>It’s a serious place holder for what should have been a good life.

Who are you to determine what is and isn't a good life? If anything, the emulation group has become more insufferable on this topic over the years. Now here's where you greentext buttblasted collector or something to bound debate and prevent yourself from defending your points.

>>5038175
>exciting
I'm filled with fear, but it doesn't matter.

>>5038154
>>5038182
You should give the games away to people instead of just trashing them. Let someone else have fun playing those games. I did this a while ago with a bunch of stuff that I'd accumulated but never really used or looked at. There was something very gratifying about giving away things I had no use for to people who genuinely appreciated having them.

>>5038190
I'll do my best.

>>5038154
Auction it on eBay and donate proceeds to a charity.

>>5038142
I had a GBA flashcart when the SP was just recently launched, and the tech was a year or two old by that time, around 2002. That certainly wasn't the first iteration of such a thing.
I had a functioning OS with a GUI and even some functioning emulators. NES was okay-ish for many games.

I bet the fire was electrical and started from the mess of ac adapters for all his retro consoles.

I mean pretty shitty but you got insurance right? I mean you would have to be crazy to have a valuable game collection and not have insurance.

>>5038247
I can just imagine the daisychained power strips driven well beyond their rated wattage.

>>5038154
I did this years ago and it was great. I moved across the US a couple times and it was great not having the baggage.

I am now in the process of grabbing a few of my favorite systems and sticking them with everdrives and equivalents. Feels better and its still "A U T H E N T I C".

>>5038149
So I should geta Game Doctor or I'm a retard for getting an everdrive?

>>5038142

Really grasping at straws here.

>>5038173
>what should have been a good life

You are insane.

>>5038247
Retard here
I thought nothing happens if you keep a bunch of stuff plugged in so long as you don't turn them all on
Am I wrong?

>>5035445
Yeah, who the fuck has a house fire?

Probably me, tonight, after making this comment.

>>5038290
>Am I wrong?
most of the time you are not. Its about risk management. I know PSX should be powered off when not in use...especially the early models because of the heat effecting the laser sled.

>>5038308
It's okay as long as you don't exceed wattage limits, but the thing with (especially old) electronics is that they can die at any time and may even spontaneously combust.

>>5038290
it always draws power. Unless you have a very good (usually pricey too) circuit breaker or backup batter that power is always being drawn, meaning the more things hook up, the more power drawn, the better chances of shit going bad when a surge occurs. Say this nut had all 30 in one room and say by bad luck or bad wiring he has all 30 on the same breaker? A small 400 joules (that's like a power flicker to give you context) could be enough to sure it over 2000 joules and either fry hardware or as you see in the OP start a fire.

>>5038290
old tech is very, uh, unstable, they don't handle constant power well and most 5th gens are always drawling power if on. They usually take a spike of current too when unplugged. That said if you leave your computer on hibernation mode or just left on all the time you are taking the same risks.

>>5038310
Most homes have all the outlets in a room on a single breaker. Sometimes it's even two rooms on one. He clearly had 30 consoles all connected and that was a housefire waiting to happen.

>>5038290

Those power bricks draw electricity while being plugged in usually.

>>5038309
That's the thing some of this shit is going to be nearing 40 years old.

I mean maybe it wasn't a electrical fire , maybe totally unrelated but like it doesn't hurt to flick the power switch on the power bar when you're not using that shit.

Also get insurance so in the unlikely case something happens totally out of your control. You won't get the time back you invested searching down those games but you at least will get some money to rebuild. Insurance isn't very expensive. I have it just for liability, like $150 a year or something.

>>5038324
right sorry, I live in a newer house that was built in 2015 that has a lot of those new rules and regs that demand more outlets in a room and limit the amount allowed on a single breaker. I keep forgetting most homes are limited in power supplies as well as it usually being per room for source.

>>5038264
Game doctor if you're a hardware collector. These things use floppy disks! Get an SD2Snes. Those have SA-1 and Super-FX support and run off SD cards.

>>5037610
>only around 7 things plugged in
I have 8 plugged into 2 different ones get on my level

>>5038325
A bunch of consoles and games won't catch fire for no reason unattended if they weren't plugged in. Having all that shit on one line is really pushing it.
>>5038332
Enjoy your housefire.

>>5038290
In theory, you're not wrong, basically, but it's always better to be safe with electricity. Firstly you're obviously depending on the wires into the device and whatever happens to them in the device to hold the voltage potential the same as it is at the wall, not to have a short circuit or anything like that. Holding the voltage = good, drawing current, ie. power = bad.

Pracically every console/electronic device has a dc adapter even if it's inside the device. I don't know if some power switches on consoles allow the live current to bypass the adapter entirely, probably not. The conversion of electrical current from AC to DC is never perfect, there will always be some power lost in the conversion. So even though the console isn't turned on and using any power, there will always be a really tiny amount getting dissipated through the adapter. Some adapters like the genesis one even heat up very hot. But on the other hand it's a very tiny amount of power and its impact on the current being drawn through a single circuit or your electricity bill will be infinitesimal and won't overload the circuit at all. This is why leaving a charger plugged into the wall also possibly isn't the best idea, because it requires a tiny amount of power to convert from AC to DC.

However who knows what might happen if you have heaps of daisychains or some shit like that going on even if they're not switched on. I'd plug them out maybe that's just me.

>>5038345
When I leave the house for an extended amount of time I switch off the breakers for everything but the refrigerator and ac compressor/furnace depending on time of year. After losing a shitton of stuff in a thunderstorm I'm not risking it again.

>Emulation talk
Eh, why not: Guys, is there a way to emulate NES games on my 3DS using an R4 cart without having a squished display?
I've been using injects, but I always wondered if one could avoid the resoultion issues that DS based emulation causes to NES roms.

>>5038350

If I know I'll be gone more than a couple days I'll go as far as completely unplugging all my devices from the wall.

>>5036170
>>5036712
>>5037507
Here's what wikipedia says. Unless you were talking about a different flood.
In October 2016, the seed vault experienced an unusually large degree of water intrusion due to higher than average temperatures and heavy rainfall. While it is common for some water to seep into the vault's 100-metre (328 ft) entrance tunnel during the warmer spring months, in this case the water encroached 15 metres (49 ft) into the tunnel before freezing.[20] The vault was designed for water intrusion and as such the seeds were not at risk.[20] As a result, however, Norwegian public works agency Statsbygg plans to make improvements to the tunnel to prevent any such intrusion in the future, including waterproofing the tunnel walls, removing heat sources from the tunnel, and digging exterior drainage ditches.[21]

Oh, man... that's terr-

>John Lewis Everything Nintendo

oh....................

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>5038410
>>5038410
>global warming destroying the thing to help start humanity after global catastrophic event

the ironing

>>5038002
This is a prime example of a mentally ill collectafag

>>5038115
I didn't realize you need fucking useless plastic to play games, well you open my eyes I think from now on I will spend my money on expensive plastic cartridges gonna check eBay bye!!

>>5035398
Feels good that I'll never lose my rom collection in a fire

>>5038115
Finished Chrono Trigger in 2005 on a shitty laptop with a madcatz tier transparent white controller, hq2x to the max on zsnes and enjoyed every minute of it.
You either like THE GAMES or you don't.

If you need all that crap to enjoy the games it means you are trying to recapture your childhood, not play fucking games, and that's sad.

oh no he lost like 200 megabytes worth of physical copies of NES roms

I wish there was a way to play them all without actually keeping them

>>5037921
Owning inherently creates attachment at some level, which is why I'm calling you a coward for trying to affect what is merely an emotional response to something as inane as a collecting hobby. It's merely a facet of the wonderful tapestry of human emotions, and you're here whining at other people's attachments, on your internet connected device, on a board dedicated to a consumerist hobby. Do you actually not see how that eradicates your time, effort and morals in one clean strike?

Did you forget my sarcastic "welcome to 4chan" bit? Damn near everyone is here to argue because damn near everyone thinks they have everything figured out (like yourself since the start of the thread Mr. Attachment Begets Despair Ad Nauseam). Yet when I point out that to follow your advice is to cast off your interests and essentially become a nomadic cave-dweller or a hermit, all of a sudden you're disputing my method without addressing my actual argument (which is to concede via ommision of opposition, not that you cared to notice ya ignoramus).

You're right, it wasn't a remark on grammar; You made a remark on punctuation (again for no valid reason, illustrating your willingness to sidestep even if it's not valid (coward)). If you had put the effort into considering why my conclusion is different from yours and why I chose to not bother directly quoting you and instead giving my interpretation of it, you should be able to understand where our views differ as opposed to fumbling over paltry inanities by calling it misconstruing.

Considering you're missing really obvious details like referring to misused quotation marks as a grammatical error and not punctuational, you're clearly not putting full consideration into your argumentation (you activated my trap card; Careless Shitposter!).

How does being an asshole to your opposition align them with your stance whatsoever? Were you having a stroke just then, or have you run out of coherent argumentation?

>>5038142
It is retro, you're thinking of classic. There's a difference. Look it up dude.

>>5038710
>Damn near everyone is here to argue because damn near everyone thinks they have everything figured out.

This thread has had some interesting discussion, but the 4chan menace of "I'm right, you're wrong, stop liking things I don't like," (usually in the form of a lazy greentext with a reaction image) will always rear its head and extinguish sincere discussion. I guess the primary point of this site really is to troll and argue for argument's sake.

>>5035474
>>5035958
*intellectually destroys Buddhism exposing it as the death-affirming life-denying philosophy that it is*

To be fair though, if you hoard video games you are likely a hedonistic Last Man which is possibly even worse.

>>5038721
>someone using Last Man correctly
little miracles

>>5038721

Last Men are more akin to NEETs (indeed, hoarders are typically that). Hedonism engenders some form of risk.

>>5038731
collecting retro games is engendering to risk. Lewis here had to either spend a lot of time scavenging and or paying for that collection and now he has nothing to show for it.

>>5038731
>Hedonism engenders some form of risk.
Risk produces suffering though, which is why the hedonist seeks to eliminate it.

Videogames are lowbrow filth, and therein lies their glory.

>>5038740

Indeed. Lewis is further away from the Last Man concept than an Emulator player, because the latter is passively being spoonfed games he didn't pay for, which guarantees comfort (i.e. the Emulator player will never "regret" paying 200.00 for a game, or see his collection massively drop in value) and creates complacency. Emulation is very much a life denying activity in the Nietzschean sense. Collectors are typically "out in the world," hunting for games, meeting people, creating a sense of community, while the Emulator player sits in front his of his PC in a dimly lit room clicking from ROM to ROM like a rat hitting the feed bar.

On this point, Nietzsche was also a passionate aesthetician, and thus, the collector/real hardware enthusiast is connecting on a deeper aesthetic level with games via physical and tactical engagement with the hardware and cartridges, that existed during a real historical period. The real hardware enthusiast can ponder who might've owned the game before him. Was it a gift? Did the person beat it? The Emulator player's engagement with the games is basically "gib ROM free." He cares nothing for a system's/game's extraneous aesthetic and historical elements that are highly interesting, he just wants game to be gib.

Nietzschean thought applied to the real hardware/emulation scenario is rather interesting.

>>5038750
That neatch guy sound pretty stupid desu

>>5038750
>some one who doesn’t get it

>>5038750
Is this the new IMAX standard?

>>5038750
You should also take into account that Nietzsche said that the Last Man would create artificial impedements for himself in lieu of true exposure to suffering.

The collector has created for himself a pretend sort of mission to collect games with no genuine risk involved. You could say that the emulator player is more pathetic because he does not even risk leaving his house, but by the same token he may not waste as much of his time on video games.

>>5038750
You got concepts understood but not their meaning. The Last Men were people that shirk 'will to power' which is the idea that you will attempt to achieve the highest possible position in life. Both a collector and emulator could be a last man but the collector is more ensured of that goal because it is an escapism by those consumer means thus ensuring you are far from being a ubermensch/superman. When you are spending your life collecting plastic because it makes you feel good you are ensuring you are not the ubermensch/superman.

>>5038750
serious question, why do anons here think emulator fags don't get out and what not when the truth is it's the flip? Most emulator fags tend to be leaner and more social while the collector fags tend to be the giant tubbies like OP that has the same social skills of a toaster.

>>5038750
That is some amazing rationalization for bad habits.

>>5038771
>The collector has created for himself a pretend sort of mission to collect games with no genuine risk involved.

There's still more risk in this regard than the emulator player. The collector/real hardware enthusiast is taking on at least some financial risk (relative to his income, of course). He's taking on social risk in the form of having to haggle and bargain with people who might be offended during the process (i.e. I'll take 20.00, bet I can do is 10.00. Fuck off). The collector also typically makes himself socially visible when he shares his collection with others, either in person or online, which holds the possibility of being judged, mocked, or in some other way disparaged (maybe for his looks, speech, etc). When the emulator player "shares" online, it's usually in the form of a Let's Play that he typically doesn't even commentate over (again, because he doesn't want to risk being made fun of for his voice).

I would have to conclude that the collector connects with games in a more life affirming, aesthetic way, while the emulator player connects through being spoonfed, a life denying activity. .

>>5038783
You are really stretching and warping thing here. For starters you are assuming collector fags do half that shit. Looking at the prices online it's clear the flip is occurring and most are just paying absurd prices than fighting against them. And anyone that takes any kind of electronic gaming as a passion holds the possibility of being judged, mocked, or in some other way "disparaged" emulator or collecting but that concept is going the way of the Last Man because big Z was explaining you should take being a loser with a badge of honor anymore than trying to avoid it. That you should do the best thing for the sake of it rather than to either numb pain or avoid it. Finally, neither is life affirming collecting can be as hollow as emulation, however when you are like the OP and have hundreds of games, that you can't even play then it comes to reason you are an addict and feeding last man like tendencies. And emulator fag can do that too but it isn't clear from the onset.

>>5038776

We are reducing this idea down to videogame engagement only. We aren't considering what the emulator player and collector do away from the hobby. Concerning videogames, the collector is assuming more of a will to power by more robustly engaging with the hobby in a more life affirming way than the passive emulator player who basically does nothing but passively leech. Being wooed by convenience is probably the most consumerist mentality there is, and the emulator player gives into it fully. More convenience creates more passivity and complacency.

>>5038779

Simple logic. You proclaim to "love to the retro gaming hobby," but don't have a red cent to spend toward it, which means NEET. Not all emulator players in the retro community (I'm not talking about the regular Joe gamer who has a few roms and emulators on the PC he plays once in awhile) are NEETs, but I would guess they exist at a higher percentage than collectors.

>>5038795
>We aren't considering what the emulator player and collector do away from the hobby.
most here were using OP's fire guy as the bar. He is a Last Man.

>Being wooed by convenience is probably the most consumerist mentality there is
No. A consumer is just that. a person who consumes goods. No more and no less. You are trying to twist it into something that leans more in favor of making your hobbies look good when the reality is buying 60 retro box titles or downloading them has the same amount of consumption, it's just the emulator is richer afterwards.

>More convenience creates more passivity and complacency.
It can but it's not a rule it will. What does for sure create that is feeding pleasure centers constantly where it be drugs, food, or finding rare games in the wild. They all encourage passivity and complacency and is why most normal people picture a major collector of any goods as a balding fat man with little going on with his life.

>>5038801
This is personal experience but every physical retro collector I see in our store are
very fat
smelly
seems to have brain issues
work minimum wage (at best)
alone/very lonely

where as most the guys that emulate mostly and just use us to get the hardware or some blue moon title are
athletic (however some take that a little to far)
put together both in hygiene and personality
has a career (surprisingly lawyers here are really big into emulation)
have a mate/spouse

again I got to stress that's here in West Oregon and you'll always have outliners but NEET is more the image of that guy surrounded by physical shit he bough with what little money he had rather than using it responsibly to make a better life for themselves.

>>5038802
>>5038802
Way to tacitly admit it's all about money to you, dingus. We live in a consumerist society and I don't have the influence to change it, so I engage with pop culture from the past to occupy my spare time.

>>5038806
>My anecdotal experience is indicative of anything

Get over yourselves faggots

>>5038794
>however when you are like the OP and have hundreds of games, that you can't even play then it comes to reason you are an addict and feeding last man like tendencies.

You can't make a judgment about his motives from your a priori position. The words hoarder and addict are being too loosely thrown around in this case. If his collection was a chaotically disorganized mess that overwhelmed his living space, with games filling the bathtub, kitchen sink, and that any attempt at clean up created an intense amount of anxiety, then you could classify him as a hoarder. His collection seemed organized and restrict to a specific game room.

Addicted to collecting? If he bought games in place of buying basic necessities for himself and if the denial of buying a retro game produced an intense of amount of anxiety, then yes, he's addicted. We really can't know that.

From the information at hand, I would guess his motives are that of any other basic collector. He enjoys having things he likes.

>But, but it should only be about playing the games! He'll never play all those games.

Believe it or not, there's aspects of retro games that people are interested outside of the game itself. He could find the bad box art of games amusing. Maybe he likes the cartridge/case design of certain systems. So far, no one has come up with cogent argument of why that is "bad" aside from "stop owning stuff!"

>>5038813
>so I engage with pop culture from the past to occupy my spare time.
there was a time we saw that as a bad thing and we were better for it.

>>5038817
It's adorable how you actually try to be haughty on 4chan. Have some self awareness

Hope he had insurance.

>>5038814
>You can't make a judgment about his motives from your a priori position.
sure I can, the fucker posted his life online.
>If his collection was a chaotically disorganized mess that overwhelmed his living space, with games filling the bathtub, kitchen sink, and that any attempt at clean up created an intense amount of anxiety, then you could classify him as a hoarder.
no a hoarder just means he amasses large amounts of certain things and the sad pos had 30 systems and 2000+ games. That's a hoarder.
>He enjoys having things he likes.
you can enjoy ice cream but if you have it every meal it's going to make you a toothless fat ass that won't live past 30. Just because someone enjoys it dosn't mean it's good for him, the fucker burn his parents house down dude to collecting so much of what he enjoyed.
>We really can't know that.
over 25
no college
no spouse
living with parents
Yeah, we can really know that.
> So far, no one has come up with cogent argument of why that is "bad" aside from "stop owning stuff!"
There are a sea of arguments in this thread that go beyond that, most of which have been hand waved or like what you are doing being ignored. Also most have never said it's bad so much as they have said it's pointless which triggers collectors like nothing else which tells me it's a sore topic for them.

>>5038819
>it's haughty to speak the truth

>>5038802
>You are trying to twist it into something that leans more in favor of making your hobbies look good when the reality is buying 60 retro box titles or downloading them has the same amount of consumption, it's just the emulator is richer afterwards.

The emulator isn't automatically richer afterwards since those 60 boxed games still have real world value and can possibility increase in price. We also don't know what the emulator player and collector spend their money on otherwise. If the collector puts aside 200.00 per month as his entertainment budget, with which he uses to but retro games while the emulator player, with the same budget, spends that money on Marvel movies and Fortnite skins, the collector is nominally richer. However, "rich" in this case is obviously relative and it more related to the experience at hand than anything handwringing over what it cost. If the guy who spent 100 bucks going to see the Infinity War a few times in a row had a great experience each time, he is "rich" afterwards.

This is problem we're having in this discussion. You're trying to apply your standards of what a good life is to others. I would personally not spend 100.00 going to watch a Marvel film. I wouldn't spend money on Fortnite skins. But I'm not going to disparage their lifestyle choices because I'm in no position to.

It really boils down to opponents invoking the "stop liking what I don't like" mindset.

>>5038823
>no a hoarder just means he amasses large amounts of certain things and the sad pos had 30 systems and 2000+ games. That's a hoarder.

You still don't what the fuck hoarder means. Stop misusing the term.

>There are a sea of arguments in this thread that go beyond that,

What "sea?" They basically boil down to stop owning stuff.

>Also most have never said it's bad so much as they have said it's pointless which triggers collectors like nothing else which tells me it's a sore topic for them.

Pointlessness is a relative concept. I emulate and I also play on original hardware. Original hardware is better, so the act of having a physical collection of games and hardware isn't pointless. Unless you're specifically referring to shelf collectors. But I also won't have the arrogance to call someone's interest pointless because I am not them and have no idea what value they draw from their interests.

Also, him being a NEET doesn't means he's a hoarder nor addicted. You can't know about someone from a few fuckin' facebook posts. Again, arrogance on your part because you have this immature need to feel superior.

>>5038830
>since those 60 boxed games still have real world value and can possibility increase in price.
we are talking collectors most of which would sooner go without other means than sell their collection.
>We also don't know what the emulator player and collector spend their money on otherwise.
Then don't use those variables. That's the issue here, by raw truth the emulator has the higher chance of both saving money and being richer for it, but that offends you so you must drag in as many variables to alter that truth.

>You're trying to apply your standards of what a good life is to others.
Incorrect, that is however what you are trying to do, you and other anons here are trying to set the collector bar in a better light than emulation. When looking at them in their raw setting collecting is more detrimental and/or needless as a whole which offends you.

>But I'm not going to disparage their lifestyle choices because I'm in no position to.

sure you are, we all are, because I'm not stopping your habits. Just sharing what we think that does to others. I am in my rights to judge you, you are in your rights to judge me. To be offended by that or to even think we shouldn't do that is more telling of your situation.

>It really boils down to opponents invoking the "stop liking what I don't like" mindset.
did it ever occur to you that's all you are doing to? you don't like the idea that collectors are not seen in a good light so you spend post after post trying to exonerate them?

>>5038817
>there was a time we saw that as a bad thing and we were better for it.

What's your interests outside of gaming?

>>5038837
>You still don't what the fuck hoarder means. Stop misusing the term.
Sorry anon but that's you.
>They basically boil down to stop owning stuff.
Most boil down to don't obsess over it, don't let it become your life.
>I also won't have the arrogance to call someone's interest pointless
But you do have the arrogance to claim I'm trying to feel superior? Knowing nothing about why I debate this stance?
>You can't know about someone from a few fuckin' facebook posts
>four+ years of posts
>a few
So wheres the bar then? I think you are just really uncomfortable of what others think of you.
>you have this immature need to feel superior.
You seem to be projecting. I never stated what I do,nor why I took this side. In irony you took the arrogance of assuming what I doing by just a few anonymous posts. Congratulations you are what you hate.

>>5038839
My wife and kids.

>>5038780
Holy shit is that some chipmunks movie? I've been thinking about that movie lately but I totally forgot about that guy

>>5038846

>>5035660
This is actually what Buddha decided underneath the bodhi tree.

>>5038838
>we are talking collectors most of which would sooner go without other means than sell their collection.

Link? Evidence? Proof? Sounds like projection.

>That's the issue here, by raw truth the emulator has the higher chance of both saving money and being richer for it, but that offends you so you must drag in as many variables to alter that truth.

This is a gross generalization assuming relatively equal wealth and expenses all around. It could be the emulator is emulating precisely because he has no money to spend on games, while the collector spending a grand on an AES game is like going to lunch.

>When looking at them in their raw setting collecting is more detrimental and/or needless as a whole which offends you.

No, you are trying to define detrimental as it applies to your personal standards of what you personally feel is valuable. You're taking a solipsistic view of the situation and not considering that other people live different lifestyles than you and value different things for different reasons. To me, yes, real hardware is superior. If I was presented with a system and all its games in the real hardware form vs. the same thing in emulator form, I choose the former everytime. However, the former might be "detrimental" to you because you don't have the space to store that collection. And I'm not offended (it's obvious that's a primary motive here, the enjoyment of offending who you think are people like the OP). I'm having a discussion with you. Or would rather me respond with greentext and reaction images?

>To be offended

See above.

>did it ever occur to you that's all you are doing to?

I never told anyone to stop emulating and commit to real hardware.

>you don't like the idea that collectors are not seen in a good light

Yes, making rash generalizations about people, whether they be collectors, emulators, zoo workers, and jumping to snap judgments is a practice that irritates me.

>>5038868
>You're taking a solipsistic view of the situation
Pretty sure that's most collectors anon

>>5038690
Nah, you'll lose that from the solar EMP.

Remember, kids: It's not a matter 'if' but 'when!'

>>5038868
>Or would rather me respond with greentext and reaction images?
At this point it would seem more sincere.
>I never told anyone to stop emulating and commit to real hardware.
Nor has anyone in this thread told you to stop buying real property and commit to emulation.
>Yes, making rash generalizations about people
will always happen and only effects those that fit those generalizations. Don't look the part and nobody cares.

>>5038843
>Sorry anon but that's you.

That's you too then. How valuable are the possessions you have around your house? How much in the bank? No, you are trying to apply the medical/DSM concept of hoarding in this case and no clinical professional would diagnose someone like a Metal Jesus a "hoarder."

>But you do have the arrogance to claim I'm trying to feel superior? Knowing nothing about why I debate this stance?

You obviously are. You're sitting in smug righteous judgment with a touch of schadenfreude at how "dumb" and mentally unstable those collectors are for paying for video games that can be had for free. If I'm wrong, you've haven't done much to prove otherwise. So then tell me, why do you debate this stance?

>You can't know about someone from a few fuckin' facebook posts
>four+ years of posts
>a few

Do you know him personally? Do you understand how contrived and calculated a person's social media persona could be? Show me evidence of him being a hoader and addicted then? Show me pictures of his collecting taking over the house and posts from him telling about how he can pay for food. Also, why the everloving fuck are you browsing the posting history of a retro video game collector? And you say collector's have issues? And don't tell me he's a "friend." No fuckin' friend would post about a tragic event his friend experienced on the shithole of the internet to be made fun of. The Schadenfreude motive is looking more and more likely with you.

> I never stated what I do,nor why I took this side.

Proof is in your words and actions. Why else would you browse four years of posts from that guy unless you got off on sitting in self-righteous judgment of his lifestyle.

>>5038710
I own things, but my attachment to them is quite minimal. I easily give away or discarded many things in my life and i don't feel bad about unwanted loss. It doesn't detract from my enjoyment of them at all; the impermanence of it is meaningful. I think this is why you've missed the point and although I've said it, I'll do you the courtesy of repeating it: i didn't say not to have things.

I didn't address you argument because i have not once disagreed. I have only been reminding you of that simple truth, never have i asserted that you're right or wrong, just that you're missing the point.

It wasn't a punctuation error you made, it was using quotes for something i never said. In this way people try to polarise their opponent into a category and then argue against those aspects that don't really apply. That's not an issue of literacy but character itself.

How much more do you need to hear before you realise you're not proving anything and that by virtue of preaching a noble truth, i have spoken no wrong?

>>5038442
>The vault was designed for water intrusion and as such the seeds were not at risk
Learn to read, you dumb nigger.

>>5036463
anon, you have embarrassed yourself today

>>5038874
>Nor has anyone in this thread told you to stop buying real property and commit to emulation.

You're criticizing real hardware/game ownership which is basically the same thing. You "disapprove" meaning the people who are doing what you don't do are misguided and foolish. I don't disapprove at all of emulation. Given long enough, it will likely be the only aspect of 20th century gaming that remains. It makes the hobby accessible to younger generations and those of limited means who can afford real hardware.

>will always happen and only effects those that fit those generalizations. Don't look the part and nobody cares.

One of the oldest axioms there is comes to mind: Don't judge a book by its cover. Or do you enjoy judging? Does it give you an ego boost?

>>5038889
>who can afford real hardware.

*who can't

>>5036170
It didn't flood beyond the entrance hallway because the room is sealed up pretty tight. They had to chip away a few feet of ice to reach the room though. The permafrost outside melted and flooded the hallway, something they never predicted would happen.

>>5038889
>You're criticizing real hardware/game ownership which is basically the same thing.
wait, -that's what is triggering you? good god are you so sensitive that the idea someone see your actions in a poor light is all it takes for you to jump to the extreme of them saying "you suck stop doing it"?
The mommy/daddy issues you must have are massive.

>>5038878
>Why else would you browse four years of posts from that guy unless you got off on sitting in self-righteous judgment of his lifestyle.
Different anon but you don't sound like you have the best reading skills if you think that would take much time or effort, odds are the only reason anon knew it was four was the same reason I did by just looking at those early posts that are dated back in 2014. I get if this was before social media but you could take a half hour and catch up on someon's last 10 years unless every post was a three page blog post.

>>5038927

Nice try at deflection with the "you're triggered, issues!" response. So why do you debate this stance and why are you browsing four years of posts from a NEET collector?

>>5038929

Why even take any amount of time to see what a NEET collector is up to? And also, he's trying to say this guy in question had an extensive social media profile that was evidence of his hoarding behavior. Yeah, taking 30 minutes to read the facebook posts of a collector you have no personal connection to is strange.

>>5038936
>So why do you debate this stance and why are you browsing four years of posts from a NEET collector?
Not that anon but you make it sound like it's work. Even just grazing a few minutes gets you all the cliffsnotes
>Why even take any amount of time to see what a NEET collector is up to?
If you read this thread people ask questions about the OP, as such people found answers. Why you want to make this something more is rather odd.
>Yeah, taking 30 minutes to read the facebook posts of a collector you have no personal connection to is strange.
I think it's stranger you either havn't read the thread or lack the brainpower to understand why someone wouldn't want to fact check/look into OPs post. Also anon said 30 minutes in ten years which is still honestly longer than what it would take unless you were reading over every single post.

>>5038950
>lack the brainpower to understand
That really summarize the collectoranon here. I'm just hoping it's a shitposter wanting (You)s and not as pathetic as it's starting to look. I know it's a waste of space having a physical collection and accept that, but I also have a wife, kids, friends and thus more going on than just my hobby, so it's not like I need people to see that in a better light. I've already got people who approve of who I am.

>>5038950
>unless you were reading over every single post.
but you can't judge him him unless you know him :3

>>5038950

Follow the conversation I was having with that guy. I asked how he could possibly know the OP enough to make a judgment about him from a few facebook posts. Then he said try 4 years of posts. He was basically implying he had some kind of intimate knowledge of the man's life through these posts.

Yeah, something that takes a few fuckin' minutes to "skim through" isn't going to give you any kind of insight into the who the guy was, proving my point the guy is a highly judgmental person.

>>5038954
>but you can't judge him him unless you know him :3

That's an axiom you should really follow instead of combing through NEET collector facebook posts to make you feel better about yourself.

>>5038961
Wait, you so are judging anon based on just a few words posted that he read a guys twitter feed with no context? Anon could be related to him or friends with him, he could just following have been the channel. Yet you assume he knows nothing of him? Also as already stated we can judge everyone however we want, like >>5038952 noted you just need people in your life to accept you, who fucking cares what strangers think

the OP is a fucking hoarder though and burn his family's house down, which is enough to assume he is a subhuman filth that ruin his families life over "muh collection"

you know OP, glutting your thread with bait to get it a high post count isn't special or interesting.

>>5038964
but what if I felt great before I even saw this thread? What if I'm happy and I'm just getting a kick out of this guy ruining his life over stupid shit?

>>5038964
This isn't reddit buddy. I think you are a faggot and would think the same seeing your ugly ass irl. Don't like it? Fuck off to a safe space.

>>5038970

Lol. He stalks NEET collectors on facebook. Sounds like you need a safe space in a psychologist's office.

Holy fuck this thread is full of awful people saying awful shit. Everyone involved should kill themselves and burn their houses down with their collections or PCs or whatever.
Really, you’re all shit people who should be ashamed of yourselves.

>>5038693
I bought a Genesis recently and sat down and played through Streets of Rage. I had no urge to play that game and wouldnt have gone out of my way to play it on an emulator.

This is a different angle on the same subject. Sometimes it does make the game more fun or appealing.

>>5038984

same here. emulation is just boring by comparison for me when compared to the real thing. yea yea it should just be about the games but if every console and real game vanished into thin air tomorrow I would have still have fun playing on an emulator. but as long as the option is there to game on real machines I prefer it.

>>5038980
pretty sure it's OP just baiting for baiting's sake

>>5038967
> OP is a fucking hoarder though and burn his family's house down, which is enough to assume he is a subhuman filth that ruin his families life over "muh collection"
This. This should have been all that was stated and all that was to this thread. Fuck any kind collector who also drains on their parents, save that money and be more than a parasite draining your loved one's sweat and work. Put more energy into making a life worth having. That way you can actually enjoy your hobby rather than it just being a massive escapism from your shitty life.

>>5038975
I don’t get it, you claim we shouldn’t judge people on base line info yet that’s all you keep doing. Are you really needing (You)s so bad?

>>5035447
book pages form a solid shape, with cart or disc when the outer shell is perforated you have air and heat getting inside...

>>5039005
>can't afford x? what are you poor lmao
>why are you buying fun things before getting your life in order?
Capitalism is unfair and people have double standards

>>5038828
On 4chan, yeah, it is. Take in your surroundings.

>>5038846
Me too, only we collect and play classic vidya instead of raising children in this toxic social climate. Cool blog post

>>5038863
Wow, for realsies? I'm so astonished that this revelation hasn't affected my criticism. Flabbergasted.

>>5038882
So again, apply what you just said in your first paragraph to collecting. You want people to not be so attached to their things, but you don't personally determine just how attached they actually are. You're self-rightously proceletyzing and that's it. Get over yourself.

>You're not wrong, you're just mistaken.

You have yet to explain how. So tell me, "missing the point" isn't being wrong, however it is being mistaken, which is a condition of misunderstanding which isn't wrong yet it's refuting you and you just repeat yourself? Are you delusional?

You have to accept that not everyone is a mouth breathing asshole that needs a morality lesson; Your enlightened thought has brought nothing but disruption in an already terrible thread. If you didn't want to be put in a box, you shouldn't have put up walls, dipshit.

>It's not a punctuation error

I intentionally misused punctuation to illustrate my take on what you wrote:

>"What does sacrifice taste like" - u

...all because I didn't care to go back and copy your inane pretentions. You whined about me misquoting you, which quite apparently wasn't my goal if you paid attention to the context of the appearing quote, so to spite your inattention I called it a grammatical error and you agreed. Quite apparently, you're not paying attention when it's not about you and your cowardly beliefs. You could have corrected my take on your stance, but you whined about it instead.

That's just it; We aren't proving anything, we're shitposting on the internet. However, I'm not the one presumptuously asserting absolute truth in the face of a contradiction (which is why I'm mocking you).

>>5038707
This. I don't care much for old video games because they have already been converted to a fully digital (read: preservable) form. Like all software it's the code that matters, not the media that stores it.

>>5039132
And where do you think this media goes? Ether in the cloud? What about prototype carts? What about non emulatable games?

You guys are all retarded and need a good slap across the face.

>>5039140
My ROMs are backed up on external hard drives and tapes. Some people choose to back them up with cloud storage providers. Prototype cartridges (the ones that left the factory) have been dumped long-ago.
The only argument you make is non-emulatable games, but those are a very small portion. Think xbox and ps vita games.

>>5039146
>Like all software it's the code that matters, not the media that stores it.

>Besides the media you need to store it

Seriously though, it should have been obvious that I was referring to undumped protos. And Panzer Dragoon Saga, among other lost games.

>>5039163
>undumped
That's would be a loss, like all unreleased/in-development software that never make it to store shelves.

>>5039170
And only collectors can provide those files. Everything else is preference. Can we stop the ride now?

>>5039185
Once those files are out there the discs/cartridges are worthless.

>>5035398
This can be said about any property.

>>5039187
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/botched-restoration-of-jesus-fresco-miraculously-saves-spanish-town-197057

Not always, so long as the title is notable. I would agree hardly anyone would value a beta cart for some sports game, but something like Earthbound 64 or Glover 2 would definitely have cliques with interested wallets by merit of having a piece of gaming history alone.

You're free to believe whatever you like, makes no difference anyhow