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>Glide wrapper
http://www.svenswrapper.de/english/

>Cube recipes
http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/cube.shtml

>Rune Wizard
https://fabd.github.io/diablo2/runewizard/


There used to be a semi active general here but it was full of shit and died out. Maybe provide some links and help some newfags get into the game and we can fix this. In the meantime tell me what the fuck you're playing,which mods,versions,chars you're currently running etc. Im thinking Im about to play Amazon for the first time ever,never tried it before for some reason.

>> No.5037829

>>5037731
Ay OP, I just started an amazon myself. First time doing it. I'm doing a bow/javelin hybrid, but since there's respecs now I decided fuck it and am doing freezing arrow/plague javelin until it gets too rough. Plague javelin sucks.

I've been trying a mod someone else posted in the last general called succulent. It's here: https://github.com/fearedbliss/Succulent

There's good and there's bad. I honestly didn't notice the drop rate being appreciably better over vanilla 1.14d, and I'm running with about 150 MF give or take through the game. That's the only change I think I'd really notice big time before hell, besides the basic QoL change (bigger stash, ladder runewords/items). I've found occasional decent runes (decent for normal) in chests, but nothing big.

One thing I've noticed is that freezing arrows seems way stronger than I expected. I'm running with Edge (bow RW with 338% ED vs. Demons), so A1 NM, where there a ton of demons, I guess I should have expected to be smashing shit, but damn, it was easy.

>> No.5037852

>>5037829
Im thinking lightning javazon. Would it be ok for a first timer?

>> No.5037867

>>5037852
Yeah man, it'd be fine assuming you're just doing casual pvm. Sad thing is that javazons use specific weapons to be "great" (Titan's) and I don't know about you, but playing single player I'm not looking to do 10000 meph runs for one piece of equipment, so you'll have to rely on finding decent rares (probably relying on the gift from Anya/charsi imbues) but since most of the damage comes from lightning I think you'd still be fine. If you have a few (3) extra skill points to burn and are up to keeping a bow on the switch, I've found freezing arrow to be fucking fantastic utility and great for assisting Merc kills with guys I'm having trouble with.

>> No.5037943

>>5037867
sounds good. Diablo II anyways wasn't meant for pvp since there you can only find 2 or 3 basic twink builds people bought from jsp. Im just gonna start a ladder character to play with my friends on occasion. I've been so burnt out on other multiplayer games and playing sorceress that i need a decent change. Im sensing its gonna feel like a new experience.

>> No.5037957

>>5037731
So

>> No.5037961

>>5037731
So we're not including D1 to at least try and pretend this belongs on /vr/?

>> No.5038015

>>5037961
First of all (You)
Secondly..
D2 is the only case of game that belongs in /vr/ even if it was released in 2000. It has always been like that. Theres a thread they discuss Diablo and it would just fuck things up if we started spewing everything D2. Let the people enjoy their game's thread.

>> No.5039748

bump

>> No.5039893

Playing through vanilla D2 for the very first time. I'm playing as a barbarian and am a third of the way through the second act. Already feeling the heat from ranged enemies. How fucked am I? Do I just need to grind more?

>> No.5039963

>>5039893
Did you follow any builds from the wiki or just did random stuff?

>> No.5039972

>>5039893
>Do I just need to grind more?
You never need to grind more in D2 as any character if you picked your abilities properly, at least until you hit late Nightmare (but there are people who beat the whole game on all three difficulties with no backtracking or grinding). It's easier for casters to do, but still.

>> No.5039976

>>5039963
Random stuff, not even paying all that much attention. I haven't spent any points on energy and have the other three stats pretty balanced out.

>> No.5039989

>>5039976
>not even paying all that much attention
You might have a problem.
Do you have Taunt? It's a go-to crowd control skill for bringing casters to you.

>> No.5039994

>>5039989
I don't have taunt and am playing single player

>> No.5039997

>>5039994
>and am playing single player
...so? Just put a point in Taunt.

>> No.5040002

>>5039997
Oh I thought by "bringing casters to you" you meant call other players that can cast spells over to help me.

>> No.5040007

>>5040002
XXXXXXXXXXD

>> No.5040361

>>5039893
you'll be fine. ranged enemies tend to hit hard. pump vitality hard and explore skills in normal, see what you like. normal is easy enough that you can spread points around skills and get a feel from the game while still progressing. once nightmare starts, you're going to want to use a respec (akara) and start to specialize so you can really do some damage.

>> No.5040396

>>5037731
Do I always have to fight one trash mob for 5 minutes before I can raise skeleton as Summonmancer when I start a game or is there a more simple way? It's only doable in Act V as there were corpses all around.

>> No.5040410

>>5040396
Is this a shitpost? From level 1 all it takes is 2-3clicks for a trash mob to die so that you can summon.
>5 minutes
wew

>> No.5040423

>>5040410
I only have a wand and no offensive spells, it takes 5 minutes because if it's a large mob pack I have to run away. I'm currently on nightmare.

>> No.5040427

>>5039893
As a barbarian, you need to learn to use your skills properly. The barbarian has some of the best non-damaging crowd control in the game, second to only the necromancer.

>howl
Use this on tough boss packs, it makes all the minions abandon their leader.
>taunt
Makes ranged attackers run up to you. This is insanely powerful on dodgy ranged guys (gloams) and slow ranged guys (skeleton archers) and good on everything else.
>taunt followed by howl when they get close
Makes enemies do laps, invalidates the existence of most ranged enemies.
>warcry

>> No.5040430

>>5040423
Why would you play a summon necromancer without a mercenary? They are a great source of damage, and the act 2 mercenary auras contribute to your army greatly.

>> No.5040447

>>5040430
Mercenary usually kills himself by rushing a huge mob pack and I have no idea how to equip him with items, I just beat the game on normal for the first time.
I heard about Act 2merc, gonna get him when I finish first one.

>> No.5040472

>>5040447
The mercenary is a bit confusing at first, but when you understand how it functions, it will become the greatest part of your army.

>mercenary suicide dives into a large group
Pull back until the mercenary chases after you, be observant of this mercenary leash range. The moment he pulls back, rush forward. After a few attempts (usually one), this should shake up your army enough such that your skeletons are in the front and your mercenary is on the backlines hitting over your skeletons.
>mercenary is taking a somewhat sustainable beating
Start feeding him potions. Drag and drop on his portrait or hit shift+number to feed directly from the belt.
>equipment
Hit O and optimize for whatever is killing him. If you are lazy and cheap (using rares you find), stack on a high damage weapon with life steal, high resistance/defense armor and a high resistance helmet. From my experience, lightning and especially poison are the real killers.
>mercenary is poisoned and suddenly drops dead
This is because creatures (including your merc) stop naturally regenerating when poisoned. Mercenaries regenerate fully over 43 seconds (16.4 seconds for the act 5 merc). Feed them antidote potions when this happens or just get high enough poison resistance.
>ranged units are slaughtering the mercenary
Use dim vision, confusion or attract to make them irrelevant.

Tossing on a line of revives and a clay golem can also really help out if you aren't already using them.

>> No.5040474

>>5040430
>>5040447
Nevermind, it works now. When I tried it before with act 2 merc on normal difficulty he kept dying from trash mobs on act 4.

>> No.5040712

>>5040427
Thanks, friend. I'm still playing pretty casually but I don't want to make it so hard on myself that it discourages me from continuing

>> No.5040740

LOOKING FOR BAAL?

>> No.5040758

Is Bonemancer really that bad for PvM?

>> No.5040772

>>5040758
Anything necromancer is great, just toss in corpse explosion and you'll be exploding screens.

>> No.5040783

It's kinda sad that nothing since has been able to match the compulsive loot whoring of D2. I've tried all the usual suspects but they're good for maybe one or two playthroughs, nowhere near the years of dedicated playing I invested in this game. Sometimes I like the automated comfort of a game like DS1 but it's an entirely different kind of enjoyment.

>> No.5041119

>>5040783
>DS1
Dungeon Siege? Yeah its awesome but for different reasons. But what it is that you're looking for exactly? Hunting for super rare items or just putting up MF and then having to decide what to keep from billions of rares and uniques?

The only thing id like D2 to have more of is more meaningful NPC dialogues and maybe more scripted events or something. For example the game is building up the hype for Andariel in act 1 you prepare yourself for something pretty badass and then all it happens is:
>click click click through shit mobs
>you are in the inner cloister now
>the minotaur and the malus is that little bit of extra stuff at this point (this nigga is also probably stronger than Andariel)
>click click click for 4 fucking floors filled with literal trash mobs
>reach Andariel
>realize shes maybe easier to kill than bloodraven
>wahwahwah.mp3
>ACT 2!
Now that i think about it the parts of the game with such things are the best ones indeed.

Act 2 ended far better with Duriel and then meeting an angel. It also had this part where everything goes black and then getting the cube and starting to craft shit felt fulfilling.
Act 3 was literally "ohgodwhy.jpg" it only serves as a grind spot.
Act 4 was way better but i dont think it had as much as 2 going for it and then finally 5 was fucking awesome but i feel like it ended a bit early,they could drag it on for a little bit more.

>> No.5041557

Was thinking about making a Bonemancer on ladder, is it any different from leveling on singleplayer? Does anyone have any tips on leveling, like should I rush to Act 1 boss and then farm before leveling or something?

>> No.5041607

>>5041557
Ladder just has some runes not available in SP.
I don't know about necros though,someone else might.

>> No.5041762

>>5041607
Yeah but how do I level efficiently in general? Should I skip trash mobs to quest area or should I just do it casually?

>> No.5041793

>>5041762
Personally,i don't go hunting every last mob there is and sometimes i even skip areas. Don't think too much about it. Only grind if you're in trouble. I remember once i couldn't kill Blood Raven with whatever the fuck i was playing so i decided to to the caves first to get exp and gear,otherwise i never visit that area expect if i want to sweat my balls off hunting a gull dagger.

Same goes for every act,do whatever you feel like in whatever order you seem preferable and if something is giving you a hard time then decide what you should grind for. As for how you do things efficiently.. I believe you just do your quests in order without thinking much over it until you beat Hell,then you can start grinding for serious stuff.

>> No.5042494
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5042494

I'm going to make a fire sorc. What should I name her?

>> No.5042675

>>5041119
act 3 is not fun the first time you play through but i actually like it now. the only act I don't love is 2 because i think the desert levels are boring and the maggot lair can go fuck itself. imo 5>4>1=3>2.

i'm the one playing through the succulent mod with a hybrid zon. Still doing freezing arrow/"plague javelin" at the moment - I'd be way better off respeccing and dumping all the points I had in javelin skills to some other arrow skills or passives at this point because I gave up on plague javelin. I have spellsteal (unique bearded axe) on switch for decrepify right now instead. running 10000 NM meph runs trying to find a decent bow. I'm running with Edge RW right now. I got a Ko rune so I can make harmony as soon as I come across a tir, but I'm torn between making it in the 4os short siege bow I already found and waiting for an actually decent zon bow. single player so I don't know how soon i'll actually find a second Ko.

>> No.5042712

Can anyone link version 1.13d? I just want to use plugy which doesn't work with 1.14, and all I can find are some pre-modded installs with Median shit.
Also, is eastern sun good?

>> No.5042714

>>5042712
Are you installing from a disc, battle.net, or other

>> No.5042720

>>5042712
The patch/rollback is free. It's even listed in PlugY site.

>> No.5042721

>>5042494
Wait for the ladder reset if you're going to play online. Every time i come up with a cool name its already taken
>>5042712
http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/diablo2/patches/PC/D2Patch_113d.exe

>> No.5042750

>>5037731
>Glide wrapper
Can that be used with plugy?

>> No.5042757

>>5042714
i wanna pirate

>> No.5042820

>>5042750
yes?

>> No.5042828

>>5042820
How? Do I just change setting in glide-init.exe and run PlugY.exe?

>> No.5042841

>>5042828
Im not 100% sure but yeah. Just do a youtube search. Im sure i've seen videos about running plugy and glide and the 1080p patch for 1.12 back in the day

>> No.5043051

>>5041119
Act 3 is the most fun act on subsequent playthroughs because it is the only one with significant random generation. Those few times you get the immediate path to the organs feels amazing, and the times where it takes as long as possible and forces you through the Great Marsh and to check every alcove, taking longer than the rest of the acts combined, is just damn funny.

>> No.5043453

>>5042841
Got it. Thanks.

>> No.5043460

I never made it to play a high level bow ama, because it feels so gear dependend and I disliked having so limited amounts of spears. Just getting enough mana leech to make the class work seems difficult.

>> No.5043593

>>5043460
i did an exploding/immolation/freezing/valkyrie build in single player that was pretty fun, if you use ladder runewords you can make a merc insight and maybe a edge/melody/harmony bow. definitely not like a battle net zon with the insane leech, but it's not too dependent on attack rating to hit or too dependent on items. it's more of a slow challenging build than a murder machine, but i prefer playing that way anyway.

>> No.5043664

What keybinds do you use? Default ones are really weird.

>> No.5043669

>>5043460
Valkyrie helps any ama build, except maybe lightjav-FAzon because you don't have enough skill points to spare to make valk strong.

>> No.5043825

>>5043460
>>5043593
i'm doing this for the first time right now, running just freezing arrow mid nightmare right now. have edge and just got the last rune for harmony so i'll probably make the switch. freezing arrow is fucking amazing with a decent merc.

>> No.5043881

>>5041119
I'm saddened that Act 4 had only two zone types: Lava and Ruined Cathedral. Hell in Diablo 1 was creepy with the flesh and bone walls which I would have loved to have seen incorporated again. Some kind of decent like: Cathedral, Lava, Bone would have been neat.

>> No.5043941

>>5042494
Name her Earl

>> No.5043952

Did anyone else play hardcore??

Hardcore really had a better community and people actually played thru the game instead of rush rush rush .
Low level duels were epic... putting countless amounts of hours into one character and getting a rush risking it all for glory

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>>5037731
>1.13c, plugy
I'm doing a ' holy grail ' run - find every unique and set item in the game (maybe runes), but across all characters through the shared stash (I would probably lose interest if done with only one char). So I'm setting up characters to farm specific areas. Currently have 3 chars sorc lvl88 ,pal lvl52, barb lvl22, but the plan is to
-sorc, use as main MF'ing char, farm andy, ancient tunnels, lower kurast, meph, chaos sanct, pindle, baal, maybe the pit
-pally, use as smiter, farm ubers and dclone (I have NEVER killed ubers or dclone)
-barb, use as WW/Horker, farm council for max gold
-amazon, lightning javazon, farm cows

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5044417

>>5044407
>try to post links
>Error: our system thinks your post is spam .....
I use this spreadsheet someone made to track loot, and this drop calculator to find where is best to farm specific items.

>> No.5044449

damn, i wish blizz had done something about class-specific items droppin in single player. my zon has collected homunculus, occy, and bartuc's in NM right now and i would love to have picked up lycander's or titan's instead.

also, anyone know of a patch that fixes this dumbshit merc aura mechanic?

>> No.5044486

>>5044449
That's why I like using plugy. Even with my lvl88 sorc, I haven't found an occy (am using hoto and spirit though) but i have found homunculus and titan's. I'd be pissed if I found it with my pally and couldn't use it with the sorc.

>fixes this dumbshit merc aura mechanic
not sure what you mean? didn't 1.13c fix the aura equipping bug, what version are you using?

>> No.5044510

>>5044486
i just mean the mechanic where merc auras aren't automatically active and they have to activate it by attacking. it's not super inconvenient for playthroughs, but for runs it's pretty annoying because the merc aura will rarely activate.

ALSO, shenk just dropped lycander's aim. Nice, but i just made harmony in a short siege bow. not sure which one to run with, so i guess i'll swap out and see what's better.

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5045379

man, sure d2 is dark

>> No.5045720

whats the best wiki for diablo 2?

>> No.5045740

>>5045720
I mainly use the FANDOM wiki for cube recipes and runeword info - http://diablo.wikia.com/wiki/Horadric_Cube
And I use arreat summit for set item info. Usually just google 'd2 horadric cube recipes' , 'd2 runewords' , 'd2 set items' and use those sites from there.

>> No.5045752 [DELETED] 

>>5045720
Going into the .txt files >= Amazon Basin >>> diablo2.diablowiki >>> diablo.gamepedia

>> No.5045757

>>5045720
D2mods >= going into the .txt files >= Amazon Basin >>> diablo2.diablowiki >= diablo.gamepedia >= Arreat Summit >>> diablo.wikia

>> No.5046045
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5046045

>>5044486
Never mind .... This just happened ! My first ever.
lvl88 Blizz/Ice Blast Sorc - 93%fcr main , 514%MF on swap.
Fuck yeah boys!

>> No.5046601

>>5046045
nice man, although 514 MF honestly might be overkill. i'd experiment with putting on better gear and cutting it to like 300-350 and see how that affects killing speed. Once you hit around 250-300 MF in my experience killing speed becomes way more important than extra MF because of how bad the diminishing returns hit. but different strokes for different folks! Gotta find that sweet spot. congrats on the occy find man.

>> No.5047086

how do i kill diablo clone? im using a prevent monster heal ring, yet, the fag still heals

im a hammerdin with 7k damage

>> No.5047141

>>5047086
crushing blow senpai
use lvl 1 smite for guaranteed hits (it ignores attack rating)
use lvl 1 fanaticism for faster attack speed (probably the only additional skill point you actually have to spend)
use gface or something else for crushing blow (probably use black runeword too or something for more cb if you want)
use dracs gloves for lifetap if you're dying too fast
that's how basically everyone kills ubers, i've never actually seen dclone but i'm pretty sure it's quite similar

>> No.5047203

>>5047141
but i wanted to kill him with my lil hammers :(

>> No.5047204

>>5047086
Prevent Monster Heal doesn't work against Uber Evils. You have to use open wounds or poison to shut him down.

>> No.5047773

>found 2 lycander's aim, goldstrike arch, all the runes for 2 sets of a harmony bow
>still no decent javelin

i'm ready to fucking die now

>> No.5048731

>tfw you will never play diablo 2 with /v/bros again

>> No.5048734

>>5048731
i'm surprised people don't host games here, I'd play

>> No.5048835

>>5048734
There was a server for /vr/ but the guy hosted it at his parents home. He moved out and it eventually crashed or something and it has been dead ever since. It could be done again but it would require at least one euro guy and one in the us so that half the people dont get horrific lag. And an 8 mbps upload at least.

>> No.5049617

>>5040758
no? it's not as fast as hammerdin but it is more than acceptable and has plenty of points for curses or corpse explosion, there is only a few things that boners can't bone compared to hammerdins

>> No.5050270

>>5040758
i would actually go so far as to say bonemancers are on par with them at this point. since the nerf, hammerdins can't ignore magic immunities anymore anyway, so they have trouble with the same enemies as a bonemancer, except bonemancers get corpse explosion, which is a fucking amazing skill and can help you get around most magic immunes.

>> No.5051247

can i play online servers and ladders with a pirated copy or do I have to pay the blizzjew?

>> No.5051428

>>5051247
Depends on where you live.
Slash Diablo is ok for muricans. Otherwise hit a store and grab it for 9.99. It really is cheaper at stores rather than it is on battle.net

>> No.5051698
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5051698

Here we go! Rolling my first Grief for smiter. 30-40%ias, +350-400 dmg

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5051723

>>5051698
>it's actually +340-400 dmg
Eh not the worst roll. Higher ias would have been nice but it did roll decently high with the + dmg.
Now to try DClone again. He was kicking my ass last time at lvl52. See how I go at lvl61 with Grief.

>> No.5051748

>>5051723
where you get that phase blade? cows?

>> No.5051836
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5051836

Myyyy Niggga. Holy shit smite+grief is fucking gooood. Everything in a1 gets dominated. I was struggling with hammers before in a1. DC was pretty easy considering i don't have the best gear. He does a LOT of damage with his melee attack, taking about half of my health with each attack. But with life a tap wand I only used 3 health pots and 1 mana pot.
>>5051748
Found it with my MF sorc but I'm not sure where. It did drop with the 5 sockets though. I have 2 failed phase blades, rolled sockets of 2 and 4, and 2 normal (unsocketed) phase blades to do something else with.
I'm using Plugy, hence the stash and dc on singleplayer.

>> No.5051867

>>5051748
Looking at the ilvl, I'm thinking that I got it from Pindle runs on P8.

>> No.5052035

>>5051867
fuck, i hate pindle

>> No.5052041

>>5052035
If you're really hurting for a pb and you don't want to run anything which will ever hurt you just turn your brain off and run LK for a while. Learn the hut shape with the weapon racks, it will have at least 2 per map roll, I've seen up to 5. That's how I got my Rift base.

>> No.5052438

>>5052041
rift?? why?

>> No.5053212

>use great maul all through nightmare where diablo drops a battle hammer
>battle hammer does no damage to anything in hell
How am I supposed to get a real weapon.
Playing classic.

>> No.5053319

I'm in Act 3 as a Pally right now. First time playing but I've played a few other diablo-likes or whatever like Torchlight, Van Helsing and Titan Quest. Does these exist a mod that makes using more than 2 skills at once more intuitive?

>> No.5053334

>>5053319
Diablo 2 came out in 2000. Theres no way to make the ui and keybinds more "modern". If you cant get used to it play Path of Exile or Grim Dawn

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>>5053319
What build are you going ?
Normally with a pally you set the main skill (attacking skill -hammers/smite/ect) to left click and control it by shift+left click. Then swap between auras/other skills with the keybinds.
The keybinds I use are Z, X, C, V, B, D, F, G (moved character screen to A)
V usually being a 'shield' skill. C for movement (vigor/teleport) X for main attack (blizzard/conviction/fanaticism)

>> No.5054006

>>5053319
You can hotkey your skills to the f1-f12 keys

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5054091

I just recover my Battlenet account for years was lost and now they update the recover account terms and now i got my account back, so i don't remember any Battlenet east us, asia server, etc passwords or nothing like. That i'm using linux right now, someone play this on linux using wine and know if i can play again and create another character with just my battlenet account

>> No.5054153

>>5052438

Not that guy, but you want rift for a kicksin.

>> No.5054171

>>5054153
what does rift do for a kicksin? from a half ass-ed google search it seems to just say that % to cast doesn't factor in casting delay so you can just spam frozen orbs nonstop, is that the idea? it just seems kinda bad because you can't aim the orb to explode properly on bosses like a sorc can

>> No.5054594
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5054594

Wow, never thought I'd see the day. Highest rune yet. Found in Tal's Tomb players1. Hanging out to make that Infinity.

>> No.5055212

I have a question, I KNOW that when I started my character I was able to assign right click skills to the F keys and then scroll through them with the mouse wheel but after starting up again this is no longer possible and attempting to assign the mouse wheel as a key does not work at all. Is there a setting that allows me to do this?

>> No.5055264

I still dont know why grief is so good.

Its better than botd?

>> No.5055359

>>5055264
grief gives a flat bonus of +400 damage which is a much larger increase for one handed weapons than 400% would be

botd is probably better for twohanders than grief is for one handers but that is due to the +stats and dual leech.

>> No.5055597

>>5055264
My understanding is that it's to do with the way smite damage gets calculated. The +340-400 damage from Grief (and other +xx damage items) gets added to smite where as ANY +xx% enhanced damage does not. I also think the true smite damage doesn't appear on the character screen either (could be wrong on that though). Phase blase is best weapon for grief because of the highest base attack speed. Stacked with crushing blow, a smiter will shred dclone/ubers.
There is a suuuper autistic (but helpful) post on d2jsp forums on an uber smiter guide that breaks down different weapon's damage/speed/crushing blow effects ect and goes into other stuff like uber health/health regen.
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=30214082&f=87

>> No.5056146

>>5055264
>perfect PB grief deals 438 average damage
>perfect eth BA BoTD deals 244 average damage, far weaker than Grief, irrelevant in most cases
>perfect eth thunder maul BoTD deals 821 average damage
>grief deals 1312 DPS with a standard attack
>BoTD deals 2053 DPS
>grief deals 2278 with zeal
>BoTD deals 3013
>grief deals 5475 with whirlwind
>BoTD deals 5131
>grief deals a relative 38 damage with blade fury/sentinel
>BoTD deals a relative 411 damage with blade fury/sentinel
>grief gives +400 damage to smite at 4.16 APS
>BA BoTD gives +0 damage to smite (unless you count undead damage, but you shouldn't care) at 4.16 APS
>grief can be used dual handed or with a shield
>BoTD cannot be used effectively by dual wielding or with a shield
>grief gives a great bonus to demons, the strongest enemies in the game
>BoTD gives a negligible bonus to undead, the weakest enemies in the game, and a slight damage bonus via +30 strength
>grief gives 20% deadly strike, which is a massive bonus to damage, and a good -defense% bonus
>BoTD gives the exact same -defense% bonus and nothing else worth mentioning
>grief is going to be pissing out crushing blows 25%, 41% or 100% faster than BoTD for standard attacks, zeal and whirlwind, respectively
BoTD just kind of sucks in comparison to Grief when you factor everything in. It might do more damage, but two-hander speed feels horrible, you are weak since you can't use a shield and any case where you do want more damage, it'll be against something so strong that applying crushing blow matters more than your damage. There are very few reasons to use it over Grief, and in those cases you are probably better off using something else entirely.

>> No.5056167

>>5054171
>what does rift do for a kicksin?

Nothing to do with boss kills, Rift lets you abuse the CtC on Orb and Tornado to soften packs up. Since you're a kicksin you have Crushing Blow on your helm, boots and maybe gloves so you don't need help doing damage to bosses, aiming the orb is irrelevant. Stormlash is obviously better, but is also super rare. Rift is really good at enabling you to start farming Meph/Chaos/Baal.

>> No.5057747

how do i activate directdraw with plugy?

>> No.5057754

list of shit I've gotten from mephisto that is not titan's:

>full sigons
>2 lycanders aim
>2 goldstrike arch
>buriza
>cliffkiller
>2 ginther's rift, 1 eth
>trang's armor + gloves
>nat's boots + helm
>mav's gloves
>tal helm x 2 + belt
>duriel's shell
>guardian angel (this may have been baal)
>bloodtree stump
>homunculus
>shitload of other assorted not-as-useful uniques
FUCK JUST GIVE ME TITAN'S

single player before you jackasses tell me to trade, i should realistically just find a decent rare javelin at this point but I'm going with gambler's fallacy here and refuse to give up

>> No.5057805

>>5057754
the most important part of titans is extra quantity and replenish
the next best thing is to shop a few stacks of 4/40s or so you don't have to go back to town every 30 seconds

>> No.5058023

>>5057754
What difficulty NM or H? Silospen is telling me that Baal NM has the best drop rate at 1:1730 (0%mf, players1, v1.13 ) followed meph NM at 1:1833, diablo NM at 1:1920. For whatever reason NM looks like it has better chances than hell.
http://dropcalc.silospen.com/item.php

>> No.5058036

>>5057747
Are you running with compatibility mode, as admin and in 'window mode' ? DDraw IS the one you want to use, as the other 2 seem to create issues.
This is the guide I used to get plugy running - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rvwvo4mTAY&
Hope you get it running. Plugy is a great mod.

>> No.5058039

Meph hell just dropped titans. lol

>> No.5058053

>>5058036
thanks

>> No.5058074

>>5058053
no problem. here's another link, holy grail spreadsheet. If you wanna go full autismo like i have.
https://docs google com/spreadsheets/d/1Sr7liMtMigd95IwWD6oa3Tky5oEjKzOKAk7pOmdmdCA/edit#gid=2009510450

>> No.5058195
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5058195

jesus christ drognan. Trying to find this took forever and I likely could have just leveled up without it.

>> No.5058537

>>5058039
damn
>>5058023
NM. Baal Normal has the best odds of dropping but with the length of those runs I'm better off running NM Meph.

>> No.5058619

>>5058537
Yeah you are definitely better off doing meph runs, I wasn't sure if you were doing hell or nm though. It's almost a difference of 500 between nm meph and hell meph, quicker to kill as well.

>> No.5060235

>>5053212
Imbue your bh or farm nightmare for a bsnap/steeldriver

>> No.5060909

berserker axe or ettin axe for death? what you guys think?

>> No.5061207

Why 1.14d is not compatible with PlugY ?

>> No.5061753

>>5060909
>a measly +7 min/max damage
>or +1 range, 10% attack speed
Ettin axes are shit, especially with a runeword that gives no attack speed.

>> No.5062793

>Singleplayer
>waypoint in durance of hate 3 teleports beside entrance to lvl 3
>running with brain off, misclick, play nightmare, map is gone

sadface.jpg

>> No.5063281

>>5062793
Doesn't the game only save on exit?
>Alt-tab out of game
>copy save folder
>???
>back on previous map

>> No.5063787

>>5063281
He was probably playing hell before the accidental switch to nm.

>> No.5064050

>>5062793
>3 teleports

nigga please. Mine only needs 1 teleport

>> No.5064319

>>5061207
i wanna to know this too

>> No.5064457

>>5061207
>>5064319
Because every time Blizzard updates the game, hardcoded changes are shifted around, forcing mod developers to re-discover the locations in the code to change. The creator of PlugY quit after 1.13 and has since given out the source code, but no one bothered with converting it because 1.14 adds nothing significant and as a result no notable modders care about it.

>> No.5064575

>>5064457
thanks anon

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5066635

charged bolt sorc anyone?

>> No.5066756

>>5066635
That was my favorite sorc build back when I used to play

but that was like 15 years ago at least and it was ridiculously OP at the time

literally just melted diablo in seconds

>> No.5066771

>>5037731
i'd be down for some hardcore ladder on USEast or USWest
anyone playing anything? haven't really played much this ladder

>> No.5066891

>>5066756
it still does when fully geared. i've seen one shred uber diablo and baal. they couldn't do meph though. my build is a blizz so the armour is a waste for me. just another cross off the grial list

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5068853

bruh.....

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>>5068853
Fuck yeah, nice find. My highest so far is BER. I'm so keen for infinity, need another ber and ist -_-
>1451 health
>741 mana
What? CTA as well? I'm jelly, not gonna lie.

I think the rng gods are telling me to start my amazon.. My second Titan's.

>> No.5068882

>>5068872
>I think the rng gods are telling me to start my amazon

then start! Farm cow levels and you have a good chance of finding Jah rune

>> No.5068914
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5068914

HOLY SHIT.......

>> No.5068959

>>5068914
And here i am lvl6 amazon deciding what chipped gems to put my short bow lol, and you're just looting high runes like no tomorrow. First jah, NOW CHAM ? Just calm down bro, leave some for the rest of us. tell me your secrets

>> No.5068987

>>5068914
why are you excited about a cham rune?
it is useless

>> No.5069043

>>5068959
>tell me your secrets
it depends on what you want out of this game. Do you want to just have fun killing monsters and exploring dungeons or grind and collect every item in this game like I'm doing now.

If you want to the latter you need to start out with MF sorceress.

>> No.5069047

>>5068987
what if I want to replace my ravenfrost with a SOJ. I wouldn't have CBF if I don't have a cham rune

>> No.5069062

>>5069047
why would a sorc care? being chilled doen't effect them in any meaningful way

>> No.5069235

>>5069062
This. Sorcs' movement and attacks are spells, the casting rate of which is unaffected by cold.

>> No.5069812

anybody for hardcore ladder? USEast or West please
or is everyone here cheaters and have to play open/singleplayer

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5069860

>>5069043
>or grind and collect every item in this game like I'm doing now
Yeah that's what I'm doing as well. My post from earlier in the thread - >>5044407
The levels have changed a bit lvl89sorc, 81pal, 32barb, 5necro, 6amazon.

How are you tracking the items for holy grail?
If you using the same spreadsheet, what % are you up to?
I'm up to 53%, not including runes (the easy half of 53% that is).

>>5068987
To me it's not really about the cham rune itself, it's more the chance to drop. Before I started to play again, the highest I'd ever seen drop was vex.
Doom runeword isn't to bad for merc either. I'd still rather infinity.

>>5069047
You can get CBF from other items. Rhyme shield is a cheap option with cbf, 25%mf, 25% all res.