/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5035967
Parasite Eve is a full package cinematic action rpg survival horror game. It is basically a full package of everything you want in a game stripped of everything impeding the conceptualization of it.

To improve upon it now you could only think of like, making it more real time, updating the graphics, adding voices and mocap

the cinematography of the scenes in the in game engine, considering what it was dealing with, is fucking spot on and fantastic, Who doesn't remember Darryl serving Klamp that haymaker right to his smug little face

maybe Parasite Eve is the best game of the 5th gen

>>5035992
>maybe Parasite Eve is the best game of the 5th gen

i wonder is the game was ahead of its time... possibly ahead of our time now.

Parasite Eve has so much going on in it that similar cinematic games today just fail to have the same depth in terms of gameplay. i really believe the RPG elements really helped give the game its legs and the survival horror mechanics and ambience make it stand out even more.

the closest thing i can think of is maybe Koudelka, a much more rough game around the edges... which also came out during the same gen as PE. yeah... still not much out there.

the only flaws i can get out of PE is some minor things like Aya's running speed being maybe half as fast as it should be, and some really barebones UI that looks like a programmer threw it together. maybe some pacing issues in some spots, but generally i find PE to be one of the most repayable and enjoyable games on the PS1.

even today i still cant find anything else that can scratch the same itch.

Shadow Tower is my favourite hybrid of the 2 even if unintentional, Abyss especially

sure wished that PE2 didn't squander all that potential. they had the most interesting and unique horror-rpg ever made and then they decide to make a half-assed Resident Evil 2 knock-off.

There are quite a few horror rpgs but the Resident Evil effect was only fully earth-shattering for about 3 years there.

>>5036173
what else, other than sweet home and Parasite Eve?

>>5036005
I actually think PE's UI fits the game's sleek feel really well.

>>5036227

i dunno, i always felt it could use a little sprucing up and reorganizing. always bothered me that the tune-up functions were kind tucked away in the menus.

>>5035967
I thought Fallout 1 was somewhat of a horror RPG.

>>5036236
could be.

a bit of stretch maybe. always seemed like it was an RPG first and foremost.

i never played it, so i dunno.

>>5035992
You know it's gonna be a good game when he flat out slugs the reporter at the beginning.

>>5036005
>the only flaws i can get out of PE is some minor things like Aya's running speed being maybe half as fast as it should be
Fuck's sake, this. Her walking speed is useless. This is why I like to replay the game on emulator so that I can frameskip her up to a reasonable speed when wandering large dungeons. Otherwise, yeah. It's just a solid game.

>>5036249

> the master of unlocking....your head off of the top of your shoulders.

>>5035967
koudelka and shadow hearts is, more or less, the most you're going to get out of the horror RPG genre because that's basically it, not counting parasite eve

>>5036301
Daniel is a saint. His fist works miracles.

>>5036210
Laplace no ma is the other game you might want to look into horror rpg for the snes recently got a retranslation that fixes a lot of issues with the original patch

>>5035967
Just started playing this, there's no tutorial so when I get into a fight I'm just running around waiting until I can shoot rats, is this normal?

>>5036417
Yeah, it's kinda like FF where you must wait for the bar to fill

>change RoF to 2 shots
>cast haste/maintain 100% uptime
>run around brap braping
God I love PE.

this is one of the only jrpgs i really liked. i played thru earthbound, mother 3, and chrono trigger but I’ve dropped every final fantasy game I’ve tried. Ffvii was cool but I lost my save from my old computer blowing up and just never picked it back up, don’t know if i ever will

i think my problem was trying to play “the best” jrpgs all one after another, the genre is alright but now i know i gotta space them out if i don’t want to get burned out on them. but parasite eve really stuck out to me and i would consider it one of my favorite games

>>5036373
>>5036210
Corpse Party and lots of other RPG Maker horror games will have you playing games that fit in that particular notch for a while. There are lots and lots of Western horror adventure games but they don't really have XP and stat based combat if you need that. On the other side of retro, you should really give D2 a spin it's great.

>>5036417
Yeah it's a hybrid ATB/free movement system. If you want something more like Resident Evil, the sequel covers that splendidly.

>>5036005
>Koudelka

I was going to bring this up when I saw this thread. I recently finished this game and was really impressed. The English VA work is still better than 9/10ths of the RPGs that have been released since. It has fantastic atmosphere although it's so dark you can barely see anything and movement can be difficult at times, although it fits the gothic horror vibe. I wonder how it would have turned out if Kikuta had managed to make it more actiony the way he had wanted.

Following up on my suggestion to play some RPG Maker here's a screen from Desert Nightmare, often favorably compared to Parasite Eve.

Also gonna test the retro police since even though these games easily pass the glance test I'm not only treating RM2K as a platform, it was released in May, 2000

>>5036236
nothing horrorish about fallout desu, it has a bit of a spooky atmosphere but it's not full blown horror

Parasite Eve is so fucking cool. It's a little surprising they didn't run it into the ground.

Apparently they made one for the PSP, which admittedly sounds interesting.

>>5037768
the PSP one is
well
it's a decent-ish game but it literally kills the series with its story because the author of parasite eve threw a shitfit at the games and now square can't make PE anymore

>>5037757
Shit I guess this is another RM2k horror RPG called The Longing Ribbon. THIS is Desert Nightmare.

Bear with me, I'm looking at these as much or more to educate myself

>>5037112
>OH NO! Today is the day before all saint's day!
This is one of my favorite lines from any horror videogame

>>5035967
i just want more parasite eve 2's and BG/IWD/FO's, and homm 2/3's, and half-life 1's

:(

The RPG elements detract from the horror. It's hard to be freaked out when you have a GUI and magic powers. Controlling Aya makes me feel a little bit like I'm playing MechWarrior. This is not necessarily meant negatively.

>>5036045
>sure wished that PE2 didn't squander all that potential. they had the most interesting and unique horror-rpg ever made and then they decide to make a half-assed Resident Evil 2 knock-off.

Not only that, they spend all their time in bumfuck nowhere. I was so excited to be hopping around Los Angeles.

I really didn't care for Parasite Eve. I love RPGs and I'll occasionally play a survival horror game but I'm not sure if I want the two genres mixed together.

>no horror dungeon crawler
Why even live.
Dark Souls is the closest ill get ,i guess

>>5035967
how would people here like a snes shadow run style resident evil clone?

>>5038183
Was that toward the end? Some of the dialogue is definitely pretty stilted. Pretty neat though that the director was basically a huge westaboo. And I really loved how after a huge build up you don't even fight the big bad guy, you just discover his corpse. And then he later appears as part of an easy monster plant fight.

>>5038516

Baroque for the saturn/ps1 if you can read moon. Even the remake is kinda weird though the art isn't nearly as horrific looking.

Shadow Tower and Shadow Tower Abyss.

I bet there's some weird japanese PC98 stuff out there too that I just have no idea about.

>>5037820
they could retitle the first game when they remake it. just call it "First Birthday" or whatever.

>>5038525
sounds good.

>>5038538
The priest says it right before the gargoyle shows up at midnight.

He's both totally seriously upset about it being halloween and obligated to refer to it as not even "all hallows eve" but "the day before all saints day"

it's just great

>>5038793
they can't
square lost the rights to PE because the author is a gay baby

>>5038978
how the hell did they make third birthday then?

>>5039290
by not technically referencing any distinct plot elements from the first game that were borrowed from the novel

in fac they don't ever really explain what's happening at all

>>5038343
I was gonna say this. RPG elements are usually about strengthening your character, which kind of takes away from the oppressive and immersive nature required for something to be scary.

>>5038152
>>5037757
Aren't these just WYSIWYGs? Aka, glorified point and click adventures, just in a top down view?
They don't really have combat or any RPG progression, do they?

>>5037768
>which admittedly sounds interesting.
Don't bother.
It's shit

>>5039442
it's pretty fun until they kill your waifu

>>5039439
The Longing Ribbon has combat but neither has XPs so I suppose they fail my usual "is it an rpg" test. As anon pointed out, it's hard to balance progression and maintain the "horror" atmosphere. If it were me, I'd just make it extra hard but I think a lot of the RPG makers worry that if it's too hard, then fewer people will see the story they worked so hard on. There really are tons and tons of these games though so with a little patience you can find ones that strike a balance you're looking for.

>>5039290
the entire point of third birthday was for time fuckery to cause aya to kill herself in the past, thus preventing parasite eve and eve herself from ever happening so the world is saved

>>5037768
I love this. It's one of the best action games in recent history.

>>5038516
Shadowgate?
I had the one on Gameboy Color.
N64 had one i believe.

>>5040486
But the problem from the start was that without consciousness the mitochondria goes berserk and evolves indiscriminately, so it really shouldn't matter which one of them died it would have the same result of a liberation apocalypse

the only reason Aya can kill them in the first place is because she exerts her own remote domination of the mitochondria to prevent it from regenerating the cells and being unkillable

>>5037820
to be honest once you find out the guy who wrote third birthday also wrote live-a-live which has orsted's chapter in it

it becomes a lot more apparent that the plot was intentionally made to fucking troll the shit out of you, and it's honestly kind of awesome

>>5038516
Diablo?

Disregard part 2 and 3rd birthday, you can't top perfection.

>>5035967
Shame the zoo sucks hard it makes replaying it a fucking chore

>>5042174
whats wrong with the zoo

this thread made me buy parasite eve. found a loose copy for $8 wish me luck

>>5037032
Vagrant Story got PE's gameplay more or less.

>>5042629
But does it have a trex coming back to life? Check and mate. Also the part where the dogs head split in 2 wad 10/10. The gore in PE was so fantastic.

>>5043605
Kind of. It has dragon zombies.

>>5043728
It's not the same, the fmv of the goo bringing the trex to life is SWEET.

>>5036210
Koudelka

>>5037768
story is bad (aya went from a ass kicking woman to a fragile thot) but i love the game mechanics. still recommend playing it.

>>5046640
no she didn't

>>5038525
How far would it be from the GBC RE game.

>>5046701
Yes she did, this is one of the biggest criticisms actual fans of the series had and universally why everyone shits on the game.

Who cares anyway, Eternal Darkness is the best horror game
>inb4 le not retro faec

>>5050156
>loose analog controls
nah

>>5050156
>best horror game
Is not scary.

>>5040486
Nah, the point was for Aya to die in Eve's body, negating the Twisted and High Ones. PE1 and 2 still happened per 3rd Birthday's ending.

>>5050153
thats not aya.

>>5051498
this is what happened in the first place to create them though