/vr/ - Retro Games

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>>5034617
>Anyone else solely emulate?
All the sane people, I guess?

Just use your gaming PC + DS4 or w/e.

>>5034617
>Windows XP
I hope you don't use that PC for anything else than emulation.

>>5034617
>Well guys, it finally happened. I no longer get anything extra from playing actual copies of games on real hardware.
Why now, what changed? Your attitude, or did one or more of these emulators get and update making them much closer to real hardware?
Anyway, I still like playing on my real SNES. Mostly the games I replay often.
I wish I hadn't given away my Wii. I might just look into how feasible emulation is on a Wii U and if it needs physical modifications or anything. Sitting in front of a TV with a controller in hand is just part of the experience.

>>5034639
That image isn't his. It's been circulating for a long time.

>>5034617
Shut up fag

>>5034628
People who aren't braindead and living in a pigsty.

>>5034628
You're not playing the real games.

What really did it for me was Retroarch, especially with the lag compensation feature it recently added. Real hardware + crt is very nice, especially for having old games look their best, but this is honestly 95% there for me right now.

There are a few things I'd still keep original hardware for, at least for the time being:
- Modded PS2, since emulation is still filled with tons of issues
- Modded Xbox, because its not even emulated
- If you have a saturn then I would keep it around although good lord the games are expensive as hell

With newer cores even the N64 seems like it's gotten to where it needs to be. I'm satisfied playing with emulation these days.

>>5034640

My attitude. I used to get this sense of legitimacy with real hardware. Now I’m just as happy playing from my Wii. It’s solely a mindset thing. There’s not enough difference between the two for it to be an objective performance thing with me. I think, at long last, I’m just worried about playing some damn video games.

Wii U’s are supposedly not much more difficult to mod than a Wii.

>sitting in front of the TV is part of the experience

That’s a big reason why I’m not any more bothered by emulation on the Wii. 240p output on a CRT adds to it, no doubt.

>>5034628
>gaming PC
A lot of people don't have these. I haven't had a desktop computer since 2012. I just use my phone

I really can't get past the input latency issues with pre n64 games

I recently played a bit of super mario world on a snes and crt and on higan, and the higan versions just feels off. like the controls are stiff

>>5034640
>I wish I hadn't given away my Wii. I might just look into how feasible emulation is on a Wii U and if it needs physical modifications or anything
Wiis are dirt cheap
installing the homebrew channel on a wii is also very straightforward
many emulators exist for the Wii, and are compatible with many different controller configurations
plus also playing Wii & Gamecube "roms/iso's" is also a plus, just no online I think
definitely consider it - emulators are never 100% perfect but like you said it's comfy playing on the couch and the wii let's you do just that

>>5034694

Honestly Wii emulators for NES/SNES/GEN are really damn close. The ONLY noticeable issue I’ve encountered was the screen scaling funny with the SNES emulator, and I think that’s just the fault of my old crummy TV.

>>5034675
>I think, at long last, I’m just worried about playing some damn video games.
That does sound relieving indeed! Of course I get that one's setup when playing games is important and not all are equal, but you get the expression some people spend more time bickering about that than actually playing games.
>>5034694
I guess that is an option, but I have my Wii U already sitting here so I might as well try that first.

Never use anything other than higan or Kega Fusion.
Actually is Kega Fusion still the best?

>>5034617
I shit white stuff

PC and Wii. I unintentionally collected 10+ years ago but have since given away/sold the bulk of it.

>>5034617
http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Main_Page

>>5034663
xD

>>5034702
Tetris Attack blows at a competitive level. But that game is my only gripe with the SNES emulation.

>>5034727
>Tetris Attack blows at a competitive level.
Can you elaborate?

>>5034617
I have a second hdmi running from my pc to my tv and use the original controllers for whatever console I'm emulating. Except for PlayStation consoles. I just use a DS4 for PS1+2.

It's better than original hardwired (specialty higan with AANN) and easy to stream (shoutout to my 3 random viewers)

>>5034780
dafuq? where did that autocorrect bullshit come from?

>>5034617
>Anyone else solely emulate?
Yep me. Except for current gen stuff which i have systems for obviously.
>What do you use?
PC x64 win7 hooked up to a 15khz CRT via component cables. Groovymame for arcade, hoxs64 for c64, winuae for Amiga and Retroarch for everything else.

>>5034663
YIKES

>>5034794
yeah I hate when that happens. Whoever made it like that has the mind of a preschooler.

some games I come back to regularly still emulate like ass. Is Space Channel 5 playable these days?

>>5034709
Yes, and no. It still has the comfort of emulating fucking everything SEGA related before the Saturn with a very good degree of compatibility, but BlastEm has the most accurate Genesis emulation by now.

>>5034617
>Anyone else solely emulate?
Yes. I tried to do collecting, but it's too expensive and takes up too much space. Not like I'm actually supporting the old devs by buying stuff used anyways

PC is also the only way to go for emulation. More ability to emulate things, as well as getting to use the controller of your choice for whatever you're playing

>>5035552
It's total dogshit but it seems to work fine.

>>5034617
Sorry to hear that. Hope you find a job soon.

>>5034702

I've had this issues on multiple TVs, I think it comes down to the fact different SNES games render at different resolutions, the console always outputs at 4:3 but Snes9x, both the standalone and retroarch version, can get thrown for a loop by it. There's no one-size-fits-all setting you can just leave on, it's unfortunately fiddly. Other than that the Wii's great.

>>5034617
I used to emulate exclusively until I did a real side by side comparison, then I stopped.

>>5035878

>buying software

lmaooooooooo

Emulation is fine (well, most of the time) but a lot of the time I still prefer to load the games on real hardware. Just need a flash cart or some way to load the game directly on the hardware (not retro, but I only just recently found out about those SATA HDD clone adapters for PS2, so I've been going kinda crazy downloading games)

>>5035654
Never heard of it. Is it as CPU intensive as higan? Is Kega still worth using for convenience's sake?

>>5034617
PC, wii, vita, pstv, psp, those are the main systems I'll play on. Most of my retro systems died or got donated by my parents

>>5035951
>Is it as CPU intensive as higan?
Hell no, probably because it isn't as cycle accurate as Exodus (which is ironically less compatible than BlastEm because it is still worked on), and much more optimized. Another emulator on par with that is Genesis Plus GX, but I like BlastEm better for some reason.

>Is Kega still worth using for convenience's sake?
Absolutely, especially for Sega CD/32X stuff or SMS/GG.

>>5035946

I've been doing the same thing with my PS2, it's such an easy hack and a hell of a library. If it could play PS1 games as well (outside of the hacked up emulator of course) it'd be perfect.

Flashcarts, SD/HDD mods and the like are just really comfy, I understand people being put off by the prices as the difference in accuracy isn't worth that trade off in some cases, I certainly hope it gets more accessible in time, but having big digital libraries you can take with the console anywhere you go is just badass. I guess the childlike wonder of that fact alone hasn't worn off for me yet.

>>5036094
Best thing I've seen for PS1 games still requires burning the discs (plus loading an original disc first) but that also requires a 50001 or later and a fliptop mod.

Only flashcart I have at the moment is the X5 for Genesis, been meaning to get one for N64, but yeah, the price has been putting me off a bit.

I still regret selling my old games

>>5035863
Hm I thought it had crummy audio and maybe even issues with sound sync/lag, kiss of death for a rhythm game. Haven't looked into emulating it in a while since it's dirt cheap anyway.

>>5036118

I just recently splurged on an X7 so I can not wonder or worry about getting something better and just have all the bells and whistles possible for real hardware. Not in the mail yet though. Excited to fire it up.

For the SNES, however, I’m gonna do Wii emulation. I have 10’ish physical SNES games (Square games/Enix games/a few first party Nintendo), but that’s about all I care to own. Plus, call me casual, but no SNES flashcart has save states currently and that’s a huge plus for me now.

>>5034663
oh wow hahaha

>>5036164
The large ROM support on the X7 did look pretty cool, but otherwise I'm fine with the features on the X5.

Wii is pretty decent for older systems, I prefer something like Higan, but the games still play well enough that I'm not gonna complain about it.

Piracy is illegal, you fucking scumbags.

>>5036204
it's okay, they have no souls and don't play games anyway.

>>5035915
Playing on original hardware doesnt necessarily mean buying software, anon.

>>5034639
Nobody bothers writing scripts for XP anymore, it’s so fuck old nobody uses it so there’s no point. If you aren’t visiting any Chinese sites then you’re fine.

>>5036204
>giving a single dollar to scalper reseller scum
no thanks, a pirates life for me!

>>5036248
But they totally spend that money on new games and hardware, therefore they're supporting the industry!

>>5035884
>the console always outputs at 4:3 but Snes9x,
>SNES
>outputs 4:3
Nigger you are dumb

>>5035915
At least if people buy hard drives it supports the hard drive industry directly so we can, hopefully, get larger harddrives to store more shit on them. If you buy original hardware, you're just giving money to crusty old fags that just use the money to wipe their jizz off.

>>5035915
>being too poor to buy toys
>lmaoooooooooing
lel

>>5034617
>I no longer get anything extra from playing actual copies of games on real hardware
>Kinda sad but also a little relieved.
So you grew out of the muh real hardware autism? I don't see anything sad about it, just enjoy the fucking games. This >>5034628
, the DS4 is great for most retro games.

>>5034663
The games are real, emulation is fake consoles

>>5036292
As long as none of that jizz is on the hardware, it's fine.
Damn, that is one thing I didn't wanna have to worry about.

>>5034617
I'm going to get gpd win this winter

>>5034617
I was on your same boat, OP, for a lot of time.
At first I exclusively emulated games on my PC playing with a keyboard but lately the combination of using save-states, rewind, fast-forward and the fact that games lost their magic in vein of being a simply selectable file from a drop down menu made me feel the experience wasn't as authentic as I wished it would be.

Then came my "real hardware only" phase. Started collecting. "I will buy every fucking game I ever emulated", I said. "This is the way the goddamn game was meant to be played, no cheats, no anything!". After realizing that it would cost me thousands of bucks that I will never have just to play a fucking easily emulatable game, I desisted from it. I still wanted to experience the authenticity of real hardware, so I managed a compromise.

Enter the Wii U and 3DS. I only play Nintendo games or games released into Nintendo consoles, you see. Lately, the hacking scene has made it such as you could inject most Virtual Console games into stand alone "channels" that make me feel I actually own the game instead of loading a ROM file. Save States are present, but are obnoxious to use and therefore I only use them for saving the game instead of spamming F1 everytime I get hit. I install NES, SNES, N64, GCN, Wii and Wii U games on my Wii U, and GB, GBC, GBA and DS games on my 3DS (the DS games sadly can't be installed as their own executables in the main 3DS menu but instead you have to launch a sub-menu that has the games in an R4-like screen).

It is the most authentic-like compromise of playing in a real console and emulating. I'm fairly content with the result.

>>5034663
>not having the brain capacity to understand such abstract concepts as software
Oh, the land of the free

>>5036976
>using save-states, rewind, fast-forward
That one's on the user. Though I won't say I don't get the temptation of holding fast-forward for a bit here and there. I guess you should be able to simply un-bind the hotkeys? If not, maybe making them into some cumbersome button combinations could help if possible?
>It is the most authentic-like compromise of playing in a real console and emulating.
Another option in terms of authenticity are flash carts, of course. But that way you don't have an all-in-one solution and need a cart for every system. And I guess technically it's not emulation?

I quit emulators to get away from the PC.

I already study and work on it, i hate wasting my free timing sitting in front of it.

I much prefer my big TV, confy couch and my video games.

>>5037005
>And I guess technically it's not emulation?

oh ffs, I hate when people don't know the most absolute basic things about a subject but start talking to others about it. But I guess there's no basic tutorial going around explaining it so relax and I'll tell you all about it.

Flash carts aren't "technically not emulation", they're not emulation period. They're actual hardware. Now some contrarian might appear and say it's "hardware emulation" or similar nonsense and point to some technical document supposed to prove that... who cares? According to how the term "emulation" has always been used for videogames, it's not emulation. Emulation is different, emulation is in software, it makes the games significantly different a lot of the time, at least unless you're using a cycle accurate emulator. The only possible time flash carts are different is if there's a special chip required for the games like the Super FX chip for SNES. Otherwise it's the same, you can use it for speedrunning (unless they're worried about you hacking the ROM or something), it's the same thing. The games are nice to have but not essential, the hardware is essential.

>>5037008
yeah this is the normal trend. Going from real hardware to emulation seems a bit like going from watching Law and Order or CSI to reading superhero comics... a sad regression from adulthood all too common in the modern age.

>>5037008

You can do that with a modded Wii ;)

>>5037036
>oh ffs, I hate when people don't know the most absolute basic things about a subject but start talking to others about it.
I'd hate it, too, if someone started talking with confidence about something which they have no understanding of.
But I don't think I did that. Why would I phrase it as a question if not so maybe I could an actual explanation in case someone who knows and feels inclined to answer reads it?
At least you actually did explain it, so there's that.

>>5037047
I have 2 Wii's, bought compatible with GameCube. One is black and the other is the 25th anniversary mario edition.

I would never mod and ruin my consoles.

>>5034617
Emulation equals masturbation. Real hardware is sex with the real thing.

>>5037184
masturbation doesnt give you u aids, u nigger.

amulation wins.

>>5037180

>>5037180

So...what do you think modding a Wii consists of? It won’t “ruin” your console. All it involves is dragging and dropping some files and running an installer or two. There’s very, very, very little risk modding a Wii.

>>5037194
based

>>5037184
masturbation is better than real sex though

>>5037271
Someone isn't married.

>>5036976
>I only play Nintendo games or games released into Nintendo consoles, you see.
So what you're saying is that you're a faggot

>>5037286
No, he's saying he only plays actual video games.

I only emulate, it makes playing some games more usable and fast.

>fast forwarding unskippable cutscenes or loading screens
>save states ( but not abusing them )
>play with whatever controller you want
>remap controls however you want

For an example, I finished TombRaider 3 and 4 on an emulator.
The game became better once I could just save anywhere and load instantly.
Original console saving/loading is tedious and slow. Much time was saved.
( this isn't abusing, the pc version allows saving anywhere )

Also, on games that I don't like, and I just want to finish quickly just to scrap them off my backlog, I put on some cheats, and voila. Boring/bad game becomes more interesting and It gives me a push to complete it.
>I finished PE2 with cheats today, I don't gaf. It was shit. And my curiosity is satisfied

So emulators can help you in many ways.

>>5036286

It outputs whatever you tell it to in the settings, 4:3 or 16:9, but neither get you the whole picture on every game. That's my point.

While I still like collecting games and playing on real hardware, emulating almost everything on my Vita feels super comfy.

Outside of light gun games I'm emulating. Makes me kinda sad to be honest and I'm not sure why. 240p scales so well into 4k and my LG oled looks so good. Even with wireless controllors and the TVs own lag I can't really feel any lag. If you could setup a better light gun then wii motes I'd probably sell off my CRTs.

>>5034617
>Anyone else solely emulate? What do you use? PC? Wii? Handhelds?


all three for different reasons.

got a windows 8 pc, windows 98 pc, and a windows vista laptop... also a gpd win for playing morrowind and fallout nv in bed!

got a wii for gamecube, wii games, plus i spent an exhaustive amount of time finding the best multiplayer games for snes, genny and nes. wii has a good sega cd emulator that plays snatcher patched and you can use the wiimote as a guncon, it also has the best version of the urquan masters. it takes pieces from all versions of the game and lets you pick and choose what you want. the wii can play dos games very well, but dont expect many 3d games to work great. you can plug in a mouse and keyboard in the usb ports and use the wii as an ok dosbox machine on your tv! plus the ability to play triforce games makes the wii an emulation power house, if only the n64 wads worked better!!!

handhelds are my favorite. i use real hardware and emulation devices. right now for emulation i use a psp for playstation games and psp games. also heres a link for a bunch of japanese eboots i made.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/f7r0lj34qp94pny/japps1pspeboots.rar/file

i have a gp32 for odd games and gp32 exclusives. a gp2x for nes, ngpc, gb/c, mame, neogeo, genesis, etc... an ngage for a few exclusives and java games. the only stuff i dont emulate are the n64 and the saturn, those emulators are just not up to snuff. luckily most japanes n64 games are cheap as fuck compared to their american counterparts. same with the sega saturn.

>>5037276
more like has been for more than 2 years

>>5037496
That's good to hear I heard the earlier LGs were slow even in game mode. The technology is capable of being far better than LCDs so if they addressed that it'd be awesome.

>>5037565
>an ngage for a few exclusives and java games.

what lol

>>5037695
Yeah, I got a 2018 oled. 240p at 9x resolution with blank frame incertion looks so crisp and clear. Played a lot of action games with my firends and we don't notice any lag and that's with the added Bluetooth lag since we were wireless

>>5037565
>got a windows 8 pc
>windows vista laptop
>playing morrowind and fallout nv in bed!
Good lord the faggotry coming from your post.

>>5037565
>java

How did you manage to get online with it if they don't have wi-fi?

I've been trying for weeks to get an old samsung A667 online to download some old java games or downloading older programs like Samsung PC Studio 7 but so far nothing has worked for installing those old games

>>5038497
I had that phone but a black lady stole it

>>5037180
this is a really NPC thing to say

>>5034617
>Anyone else solely emulate?
For /vr/? Yes. NES, Genesis, SNES, and ePSXe. Also a few games on MAME. Have PS2 and N64 but haven't had the motivation to play any games on either one.

>>5037286
Nothing in Sega or Sony libraries attracts beyond some Genesis and PS1 classics, and I've already played all of them.

Most older worthwhile games of other consoles get eventually ported or remade (example: never played Grandia before, but now that it's on Switch I definitely will) so why bother? I already have like 300 games on my backlog.

>>5035483
I've been interested in hooking up my computer to a crt but don't you need a rig with a lower series raedon GPU? I'm curious of that's what you have or if there are other work arounds. Also what model crt?

>>5038601
Not this meme. Not here.