/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING ===

Quaddicted still down for European users

=== NEWS ===

[09-06] LOTX milestone 3, project put on hold
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ymtpoqmqbur88l6/LOTX-milestone3.rar?dl=0

[09-02] DAKKA SSG revamp in latest alpha
http://jinotra.in/downloads/mods/doom/dakka/dakka-0.10alpha-2018-09-02.pk3

[09-02] Audio level rework in new pre-release version of Babel
https://my.mixtape.moe/mrcokp.pk3

[08-29] Anon shares GZDoom gameplay mod compatibility patches for Heretic, Hexen, and Chex Quest
http://www.mediafire.com/file/zkt5vzcjh65r9ny/Almost_Universal_Doom_for_Heretic_patch_V0.2.7z/file
http://www.mediafire.com/file/cxs2055thu8zd2x/Almost_Universal_Doom_for_Hexen_patch_V0.1.7z/file
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ltm30tpj80h222o/Almost_Universal_Doom_for_Chex_Quest_patch_V0.1.7z/file

[08-29] GEC PSX Master Doom Beta released, incorporating missing PC levels into the PSX version
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101161

[08-27] SM186 for Quake released, 12 Terracotta-themed maps
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61621

[08-26] GZDoom 3.5.1 released, implementing a "resolution mode selector"
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=61800

[08-25] A more recent build of TerminusEst's Booster mod
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nt4ycstu42sc4dq/te13-Booster.pk3?dl=1

[08-25] Anon shares a Hexen 2 map
https://mega.nz/#!pl1kxKJY!Z-6tXu5l_hOqI-H3Goy8Ga-lbfXMTJe1rqOAFaUG0_8

[08-25] Alien Armageddon mod for EDuke32 released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/duke-nukem-alien-armageddon/downloads/duke-nukem-alien-armageddon-10

[08-23] Combined Arms v1.3 as well as 'Combined Harms' officially released
https://combine-kegan.itch.io/combined-arms

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HUUH

>>5024295
Lolchair confirmed for Doom?

>>5024792
Shit would be cash

>>5024792
>its an entire recreation of the original Doom comic
>but with no dialogue this time

Guys, I need a racist wad.
With muslims, niggers, or anything else that's racist.
Can please some of you provide?

Qt for your troubles

>>5024798
That would suck all the fun out of it, though.

>>5024798
>>5024803
This, I thought just about everybody agreed the only redeeming feature of it was the terrible writing.

>>5024806
It was a beautiful brainchild of the 90s and I don't think we'll ever see anything that glorious ever again.

>>5024802
>killing niggers and muslims while playing as a jew
The irony

>>5024802
Just go to E1M1, kill yourself and jerk off to Doomguy's dead face, I guess.

>>5024802
/pol/.wad
Trump Doom.

Still wish there was a mod that made Doom 1's intermission screens like the level selection maps from games like Super Mario Bros 3/World and Crash Bandicoot

>>5024802
>>>/fuckouttahere/

>>5024858
You could go the Golden Souls 2 route and have a hub map that you were dumped back out to at the end of the level.

>>5024802
Hand yourself over to the authorities before you go on a pathetic shooting spree, incel. Or get genuine psychiatric help, preferably.

>>5024865
Damn, that must've struck a nerve really hard.

ol c.kid

>>5024865
n i g g e r

>>5024865
If my experience dealing with such individuals is any indication, he's beyond help.

>>5024879
Shall we report him to the FBI?

How did you guys get introduced to Doom? For me it was my Dad who had it on his computer around 1994. We'd make a game of it how far we could get before being slaughtered. We did it so often he figured that we could give Doom II a try and we got our asses kicked the first time around.

>>5024883
My answer might make you feel old, I'm sorry
I was born in 1994. I only started playing it a few weeks ago. I've obviously known about it for a long time but I never really dived in to try it out until recently.

I now have a fuckhueg WAD collection, really glad I picked it up. Loadsofun.

DOOT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xG6TDX7tQw

>>5024762
https://clips.twitch.tv/MuddyHealthyBaconAllenHuhu

>>5024889
Shame it wasn't with the Doot mod.

Holy shit have you guys seen this Magic Eye mod?
https://blogum.itch.io/omdo
Peak 90's right here

>>5024883
I played that flash port of Doom on Newgrounds. Spooked the shit out of me the first time I played it.

>>5024857
Thank you, anon.

>>5024896
>those things never worked for me when people were obsessed with those books in the 90s
>still don't work now
Feels bad man.

>>5024883
brutal doom. Only did the discovery of reelism saved me from playing oblige maps with project brutality for the rest of time.

>>5024901
There's also Moonman.wad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5AFHu8Xrw4

>>5024909
This is great. Thanks a lot for the help.

>>5024865
>incel
Ooh the burn, man!

>>5024928
>>5024924
plot twist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cphNpqKpKc4

>>5024809
Imagine just how much more memetic that comic would be, if it was drawn by Liefeld?

>>5024883
born in 94 too, the reason I discovered Doom was that my cousin gifted me and my sister a bunch of his burned CD games
TNT was actually my first contact with Doom, and jesus fuck pinkies used to scare the shit out of me

piracy was so prevalent (and still kinda is) that you could buy burnt CD's at your local PC shop for peanuts, they even came with cheats written in the back of the slip cover

>>5024932

how do i hold more disks of repulsion than just 15?

>>5024984
Replace ArtiBlastRadius with something that inherits from it and set the inventory.maxamount to higher than 16.

Or change the default max in the mapinfo.

>>5024883
I tried the DOOM demo on Steam a shortly after it came out, then I came here to see what the original Dooms were like.

>>5024883
Mom bought it.
I had played Quake before which was too scary for me at the time but Doom was a little more bearable, although I still used the -nomonsters parameter at first just to look at the maps and find secrets.
I found all episode 1 secrets except for the one with the automap in e1m5.

Lost souls still spooked me for a while.

>>5024883
I don't actually remember; my early childhood was a blur of quake, doom, unreal, and a bit of wolfenstein 3D (and I think there was some RtCW in there too?)

man I've been playing id shooters nearly my entire life, honestly kinda crazy

>>5025027
sounds like a good childhood

Was the registered version of Doom a total embarassment?

>two episodes of ugly, flat, boring levels
>only two new monsters (one of them is just an annoying shit) and two new bosses
>only two new weapons
>mostly recycled music from episode 1
>last level being the worst joke ever in video games (before Duke Nukem World Tour boss level)

I wish they should have released Doom 2 after Knee Deep in the Dead to avoid embarassment.

>>5025034
You have to keep in mind what came before it with Wolf3D.
>6 episodes of literally flat geometry and extremely labyrinthine
>all enemies are hitscan
>final boss is just another hitscanner with more HP

As "embarassing" as you think it is, it's an overall upgrade to everything that existed at that current point in time.

>>5024883
It was on School PCs.
Like around the 2006 or 2007 year.
Yes, those PCs were old enough to just run DOS games.

This is actually pretty rad. Novelty, not something I would play normally, but interesting

https://dario-zubovic.itch.io/1337-doom

>>5025074
Same place but with smaller ASCII and colors on

>>5025068
Schools and other government shit are usually a version or two behind with Windows, so it's not surprise they'd be on 98 or 2000 or worse, ME.

>>5025059
Considering the quality of episode 1 it was an embarassment. Tom Hall levels looked like just a slightly updated Wolf3D, and Petersen was a total chaos.

>>5024752
>Go to play ZDWars with people
>New classes make no sense
>Pimp
>OC shit
What is this
Is there a guide somewhere for the new shit

Same as >>5024898 except i got interest for Doom, when i saw the Doom movie

What's a good HUD for Zendronum? My favorite so far is UDV, but it doesn't work for zendronum (at least not the version I prefer)
Please.

What's the deal with like Ultimate Doom and Final Doom? What's what and what order should you play in?

>>5025074
> Unity

What the fuck? libcaca has been available for centuries.

14m3-doom

>>5025185
Are you stupid?
Ultimate Doom is the first one and Final Doom is the third one, come on.

>>5025185

Ultimate Doom is the original Doom plus an extra episode, Thy Flesh Consumed.
Final Doom is TNT: Evilution and Plutonia, and takes place after Doom II.

>that boomer in my class who thinks doom and doom 2 suck because of the graphics

>>5024806
>terrible writing

Did you mean to write terrific?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrxKFDZu_MI

>>5025121
ZDWars extra classes are like the earlier versions of Samsara extra heroes: absolute memes not meant to be taken seriously

>>5025254
That's called a zoomer

>>5025254
>>5025267
This meme is dumb.

>>5025267
sorry

I think my Uzi is finally starting to look how I imagined it would.

>>5024883
Spotted a "moustached guy" killing nasty dudes and monsters on a computer in my dad's office, then asked to install it on a computer back at home.
This was right after I played Wolf3d. It was 96 or 97, I think. Maybe 95 even (Yeah, I could've played Doom right as Quake was about to be released).

>>5024883
It was 1993, I was six years old.

Dad came home from work one day and said the whole office had jammed up the network playing a Doom and that he'd never seen anything like it. Over the next week he kept telling me how great Doom was.

At that point the only PC we had was an old 286 that would have never been enough for Doom.

I remember him building a PC on the kitchen table soon after, a 486. Looking back, it must have cost him almost month's salary - and it didn't even have a soundcard. He let me screw the hard drive and CD drives into the case for him. Doom was one of very first things we installed, and even with no music and just the PC Speaker beepboops it was still amazing. He used to let me play it sitting in his lap.

He's in his 60's now, and sadly suffering from early dementia and heart problems. He struggles to remember anything for more than a day or two, can't figure out which way his shirt is supposed to go on or how to tie his shoelaces, but if I mention Doom to him, he will hum the entire main guitar riff of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmmuQA65Z-A

>>5024883
Back when I was about 12 (in 2012) I think I saw a flash game on some website about it, and had just discovered how to pirate, so I gave it a try.

>>5024883
I only knew about the movie at first but then tried the game on my DS and the pinkies scared the shit out of me, I was 10 or 11 at the time

How exactly does Doomguy get from Phobos to Deimos between act 1 and 2 of the first game? Is he killed in that ambush at the end and just goes to hell or what?

>>5025450
that's the implication

>>5025450
Deimos was in hell

need the source on the m1911 sprite cuz i can't rip it from the wad (it's in pk7 format)

>>5025512
pk7 is 7zip, just open it with that.

>>5025450
yes

>>5025337
i wish gzdoom could do proper 3d polyobjects so we could have horizontally moving bars

>>5025483
Don't remind him.
ples no report for bad joek

>>5025337
nice bail
what map are you playing?

>>5025194
No, Doom 3 is the third one. I mean, It's literally in the name of the game.

>>5025717
nah man, doom 64 is the third game

>>5025735
qt
what is this?

>>5025364
Your dad is badass and reminds me of my own. His health might be failing him now but he'll always be a part of you, and a part of all of us.

>>5025741
From a call of duty weapons pack for brutal doom. It gives you radios that either let you spawn a marine squad or an anime girl. This one is Sakuya Izayoi from touhou. She normally has timestop and knives but here she just has a SCAR-H and Deagle.

>>5025763
i thought he hasn't updated it though, he said it's not on 0.85 in the video testing sakuya bones

just some experimenting with SKSPINE and SW2SKIN
looks unsettling. good.

>>5025823
would probably work better with the pink skin texture instead of the spines

>>5025828
Yeah, I thought so too initially but I wanted to swap it for a more "support"-like texture (some use spine as a flesh support equivilent and i kind of wanted to match the texture together, Maybe an sk_spineless would be of note? (haha)
anybody got a dump of the unused beta/alpha assets? deathz0r seems to be dead.

>>5025837
>>5025828
>>5025823

>>5025850
A HUGE GAPING VAGINA THE SIZE OF A HALLWAY!

>>5025823
>looks unsettling
looks like a mishmash of textures

>>5025850
yeah, this is better, though alignments are still quite out of wack

>>5025854
stop agitating my sides

>>5025857
should be more imaginative and look past the fact it looks like a mish-mash,
but yes it does look like a mishmash

>>5025860
>slap a bunch of unfitting textures together
>surprised when people say it looks weird

>>5025878
who bit your nipples

>>5025882
I did.

>>5025860
>should be more imaginative and look past the fact it looks like a mish-mash,
imagination has nothing to do with it you baka

>>5025890
was there milk

>>5025717
Actually Doom 3 is more of a sixth game in the series.
And Final Doom is 3d+4th games
Doom 64 is fifth game

> But the 3..!
So what? It's just the third MAIN game, not the Actual third game.

>>5024883
I don't remember. One day Doom 2 was on the computer so I played it.

Why exactly did we get Doom 64 before Doom 3?

About to play hideous destructor for the first time, anything i should know?

>>5025952
Because they wanted a new game on a console?

>>5025964
Recalibrate the controls so you're comfortable with them. There are a lot but not so much you'll be filling up your keyboard.

>>5025964
you play as an ugly destroyer

>>5025964
Tip 1). Read the manual.
Tip 2). READ THE MANUAL!

>>5025964
take the guns for a spin at the range before you go into real combat with them
read the f1 screen for gameplay basics, then reference the manual as you need/want more information about specific things instead of trying to cram down the whole text in one go

>>5025964
Don't play it

Goddamn
How am I gonna get out of this jam!?

>>5025985
t. angry boi icarus

>>5025990
don't you insult the name of Icarus

>>5025994
you gain no respect from me until you stop punching in ID(K)FA 10 minutes into your playthrough

>>5025850
Don't make it symmetric.

>>5024883
I was eleven, or somewhere around that age, when I found my parent's shareware discs of Doom 1. I booted it up in MSDOS, but I remember I couldn't get the sound working right which made it kinda scary the first time.

Why is this exploding when i try reloading the mag?

>>5025964
Don't trust the barrels.

>>5026002
4.26 is a shit round and the magazines are meant to be disposable
you can reload them but it's something you should only do if you have no fresh mags
partial 4.26 mags and loose rounds are best used for repacking 7.76 rounds instead

>there was never an actual doom 3
Feels like it should have been a trilogy. I don’t count 64 or final doom because the story doesn’t really align

>>5024883
Bought the shareware floppy version for $5 or so from an Egghead Software within biking distance of home. Believe this would have been early '94, as that was when my family finally switched from the old IBM AT to a 486.

Please tell me i did not see a fucking imp resurrect a zombie man

>>5026064
the little ones have that ability
also killing them makes them release frag energy that floats around and randomly resurrects a corpse
have fun

>>5024883
Someone sent over some pirated floppies of the original trilogy and it played like concentrated ass on the 386SX. Later we got a 486DX2 (little did I know that was actually an AMD chip) and one of the first things I got on it was a retail copy of doom ii I had Dad buy for me at Computer City, It was wonderful.

>>5026071
Barrels also have frag.

oh no

>>5024883
doom 64 on my nintendo 64™ circa 1998

Alright, what is this part of my HUD? Stamina?

>>5026106

I'm 4 maps in to Eternal Doom and it feels like forever

>>5026112
>ETERNAL Doom
>takes forever
just putting it out here, it's mediocre.

>>5024798
good idea! Ive always been suprised that its never been fully remade

>>5026096
I recommend decreasing screen size to get a look at your face instead.

>>5026130
wut?

>>5026131
he means the - key.

>>5026106
>>5026109
Heart rate. Goes up from damage, running too much and stress.

>>5026112
Hope you like switch hunts boi

>>5026112
Don't worry anon, it'll last you until Doom Eternal comes out.

What's the most technologically and/or visually impressive wad that GZDoom can run?

>>5026163
>visually impressive
Ancient Aliens

They're heading towards certain death.

>>5026167
ancient ayyliesn

>>5026163
If you're not concerned about quality, Blade of Agony or Doom Slayer Chronicles are the biggest display of tech for the engine yet.

>>5026163

Total Chaos I believe.

The best thing about doom for me is its one of the most surreal games and no games have been made to be surreal since.

>>5026249
And to think people hate the oddball Sandy Peterson Levels

>>5026226
>loli portrait
lol what is this
>>5026238
why don't people like blade of agony? the gunplay isn't anything special but i love the level design and gimmickry, enjoyed it more than wolf tnc

>>5026351
i found the level design and gimmickry to be peak tormentor, tbqhwu

>>5026359
>i found the game to be like it was designed by the person that designed it
uhhh

when i launch pirate doom i get this in the log, the game seems to run fine but will i have problems later?

Script warning, "Pirates!.wad:DECORATE" line 4672:
class 'dashsound' is not compatible with 'Inventory'
Unknown terrain SlimeBrown
Unknown flat RAY1020
Unknown flat rrock9
Unknown flat MOER
Unknown flat MOERTRI
Unknown flat RAY96

>>5024883
I think I was like 7 or something, back in the late 90's. My brother had a friend over one day, and they were playing a new game, Doom 2.
I had seen Quake 2 before, and it was cool, but this game Doom, it was much more violent, much more dark, much more detailed, it had a cooler style. The 3D models in Quake 2 were impressive, sure, but the sprites in Doom were mindblowing to me, many of the monsters had photorealistic shading, the Spider Mastermind looked so real in comparison to the monsters in Quake 2, and the guns as well. It was the first time I had seen a videogame with digitized photo graphics.

Now, he didn't want to let me play it, I complained to my mom like the little shit I was, etc, and there was arguing "Doom is worse than Quake, it's too violent and scary", etc.
I wouldn't let the issue go though, I was a kid who was big into Starcraft, and more importantly, Diablo, violent games, Diablo being especially dark and full of terrifying monsters. I loved that kind of stuff, even if it maybe gave me a nightmare or two sometimes.
I finally managed to reach a middleground with my brother, and he would let me play Doom 2 with a (very old) version of "Simpsons Doom", which of course replaced the monsters with (somewhat crude) depictions of characters from the Simpsons (Barney replaced the Pinky, his sight sound being https://youtu.be/Johmlmq-dRUt35 and his attack sound burps, etc), and you played as Homer, making his various screams, yelps and shouts as he was hurt.
Of course this made it less scary and somewhat less violent, and I thought it was funny, but I still wanted to play the real thing, which I eventually would.

>>5025364
That's a really cool story. I wish my dad was cool like that and we had that kind of bond.
Sorry to hear about his condition, dementia is always very tragic.

>>5026361
>i discovered the mod for a 25-year-old game to be reminiscent of a manner as if it was developed and constructed by the human being that claimed to have developed and constructed it
uhhh

>>5026361
did rephrasing that help you understand better, or...?

>>5026351
I don't thing the core gameplay is bad, but i think shorter, more straightforward levels would've helped. Most of the time i lose focus while i play because the levels are so huge that they outstay their welcome. You usually get to the point that you've killed every enemy and don't know where to go, then you find out you have to backtrack to that specific door and continue the same mission for another 20 minutes.

>>5026367
>I discovered that the 25-year-old game's mods remind us of ways like a structure developed by humans
uhhh

>>5026369
it's just strange that 'this game sure seems like it was made by the person that made it' is a criticism
and now i seem to have triggered a wave of mental illness
>>5026370
funny, one of the things i really enjoyed about boa was the enormous sprawling levels, i don't recall getting lost although i surely did at least a few times, then again i'm the type that loves to explore every single corner of the level

>>5026372
> Build change detection alarm, game developers to create and claim my 25-year-old man.
uhhhh

>>5026379
>and now i seem to have triggered a wave of mental illness
who pissed in your cheerios, it's just a little fun with an odd phrase

>>5026379
I like open world levels too, my issue is with how long a level usually last. If the levels would be open but could be completed in 20 minutes instead of a hour (blind run), i think it would be a lot better to keep the player focused.

>>5026379
>it's just strange that 'this game sure seems like it was made by the person that made it' is a criticism
Not really, considering no single developer is perfect and you can pretty easily figure out if a mod is right for you by who developed it.
Pillowblaster's mods have great art and weapon feel. They're horribly imbalanced and tend to bloat with too much content after a while.
So when I say Guncaster feels like peak Pillowblaster...

>>5025034
>two episodes of ugly, flat, boring levels
The levels are varied and interesting, what are you talking about?

>only two new monsters (one of them is just an annoying shit) and two new bosses
Granted, the bestiary was a bit limited in the first game, but it was used pretty decently IMO.

>only two new weapons
They're good though.

>mostly recycled music from episode 1
No it isn't? There's like a few recycled tracks, but most are new for each episode, not counting Episode 4, but that came after Doom 2, sort of.

>last level being the worst joke ever in video games (before Duke Nukem World Tour boss level)
E3M8 isn't perhaps great, but at leas the level before that was really neat and interesting.

>>5025964
Barons are real bad news, they're as big and mean as ever, and once you kill one, prepare for more trouble.

>>5026020
The cartridge isn't THAT awful, it's more that the ZM66 rifle is.
With the Vulcanette, if a cartridge is a dud or something, it'll just cycle through it and spit it out, because it's a Gatling gun with an electric motor.
The Vulcanette is a heavy bitch, but it's also a very dependable weapon.

>>5026387
>E3M8 isn't perhaps great, but at leas the level before that was really neat and interesting.

Not him, but I can't be the only one who thinks that E3M7 is kind of a slog. For a penultimate level the action feels rather minimal and there's way too much running back and forth, although that could just be thanks to my idiocy.

>>5026064
See, the fun part about Hideous Destructor is that it makes the effort to have the monsters all be real fucking cunts to deal with.
The idea is to have monsters which could realistically destroy a squad of soldiers, compare to the original game, where the monsters are mostly kind of dumb and can only do a few things each, and some of them are pretty slow.

The reward is to defeat very rough odds, and an important part about HD is that to enjoy it, you should throw basically all the rules out the window, forget about playing fair or staying in map sequence, your goal is to survive and make it to the exit, by any means necessary.
The sooner you realize there are no rules, the sooner you can succeed.
Do you go through that monster gauntlet which surely awaits behind that door, to go around and get that key up on that ledge, or do you just climb up the ledge (perhaps with a ladder), grab the key, and skip that combat?
Do you play through the entire map, or do you crawl through a low window and skip half of it?
Do you make the effort to fight an arch-vile until he dies, or do you just fight him off and hope you can keep him away until you reach the exit? There's rewards and consequences to both choices.

There's one *IF*, however; some maps are not even remotely easy, or even feasible, to play, that's something to assess; is this a level which I could realistically face, without obscene trial of error, or even at all? Most people will not have the patience for playing it with Alien Vendetta, for instance, some of the levels are particularly cruel to the player in Hideous Destructor.
It's a very acquired taste of gameplay, but for certain types of people it appeals to, it's very good.

>>5026414
It's kind of a slog, but I also like that it's kind of a puzzle, and that it's punishing; with how you have to traverse all the damaging floor sections.
Not the strongest level in the episode, by far, however.

>>5024883
I grew up on the internet with video games as a hobby, so of course I knew what DOOM was. I didn't play it til I was almost 20 though and I think I got my hands on it thanks to /vr/ back when the board was new.

>>5025185
If you want to play things in release order, it would be the first 3 episodes of Ultimate DOOM, then DOOM II, then E4 of Ultimate DOOM, then Plutonia and TNT

>>5025990
>t. normal human being
I played ArmA my entire life but that mod is either incredibly bad or intended as a joke

>>5026163
Total Chaos
Blade of Agony
Doom Slayer Chronicles

>>5026351
Because few haters are always more vocal than a lot of people who enjoy something
It's an awesome mod, desu

>>5026418
>mods that significantly alter gameplay may not be fun to play on maps that were designed for vanilla
now that's a shocker

>>5026434
>>5026446
Go shoot another video.

>>5026434
I love how nobody has ever been able to properly criticize HD, it's always "waaaaah it's too hard".

I really want to dig in like early 1996-1997 Quake levels. So far I've downloaded everything from idgames2, quakerepo (singleplayer and singleplayer/deathmatch) and main quaddicted file archive, to sort of have this database of levels on my HDD.

Are there any other repositories with the oldest quake stuff specifically, which might have files/levels these three aforementioned repositories have missed? I really want it to be exhaustive, you know. Anything at all comes to mind?

>>5025952
Was meant to be another game until it becamr a Doom game i think

>>5026462
I've never heard of that before, is that true?

>>5026464
It would have been a game named Absolution i think

>>5026473
Absolution I think was the intended title for the multiplayer only 'sequel' to Doom 64, which was scrapped fairly quickly.

>>5026460
almost sounds familiar

>>5026486
This is still hilarious to me

>>5026486
> WHINNY

>>5026486
You can thank the dumbasses here who whined about BD chaingunners making certain situations "impossible to beat".

>>5026486
this reads like one of those satirical edgy oc descriptions that devolve into rambling about old school bullies

>>5026493
Don't you mean whinned?

>>5026493

>>5026163
Hunter's moon may be one of them.

>>5026506
Didn't mark nerf the chaingunners?

>>5026496
except it's written by a /fit/ chad

Unpopular opinion here:

TNT and Plutonia in Final Doom are garbage tier.

>>5026525
Unpopular opinion here:

Doom is overrated and most of its respect comes from nostalgia value and its iconic place in gaming history, so liking it gets you easy gamer cred. Quake is the one that should have gotten the million mod support instead.

>>5026525
>Unpopular

>>5026528
Quake deserves better. But Doom's simplicity is what has kept it alive and has made it so easy to mod. Quake is on another level.

>>5026486
Way to bite the hand that feeds you, mark

>>5026508
no he's just using modded values or using armor in db screen

>>5026528
Doom's gameplay is better IMO but Quake's atmosphere and exploration facets are better realized. They're both excellent games that have extensively shaped gaming in their own way.

>>5026528
The leveldesign in Doom 1-2 iwads is atrocious save a few Romero maps.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1037105931673206784

In the end, Metadoom is my favourite gameplay mod...

It's a lot of fun without making everything a pushover

>>5026607
Aside from the Sakurai level of its concepts execution, it does feel like a randomizer that tries to care about the maps youre playing, even with some cases like the ammo wasting situation

im a brainlet how do i reload the assault rifle in hideos destructor, i did the "illegal" reloading and now the ammo counter is scrambled

>>5026563
I've always believed that PWADs surpassed the IWADs around 1996 but nostalgia keeps bringing people back

>>5026652
>i did the "illegal" reloading and now the ammo counter is scrambled
serves you right, criminal.

>>5026486
>Mark thinks Brutal Doom is hard

>>5026673
>post after post of different critiques
>game iz 2 hard 4 /vr/
hes such a nigger

>>5026525
I disagree.

>>5026528
Doom gets by on it's strong fundament and simplicity, as well as being super easy to mod.
It works on all the basic levels and it's accessible in many different ways.
The more nuanced gameplay comes up more in Final Doom and later pwads, where there's much more creative enemy encounters to challenge the player.

Quake does deserve better though.

>>5026669
Across the board, the levels in the first two games are solid. Not excellent, there's some pretty good maps, but also some which maybe aren't so good.
Just picking up the game and playing it, they work alright.

Of the official iwads, I think Final Doom is kind of stronger than the base games, in most aspects, but I absolutely agree that pwads have long surpassed the original levels. Doom is fun, but pwads can make it so much more exciting.

>>5026669
It's kinda interesting that in the case of Duke Nukem 3D and the other Build games the stock levels like Dark Side or Derelict are still better benchmarks than user content. What eventually helped Doom didn't make Duke a favour.

>>5026683
Build engine mapping is harder, I guess.

>>5026557
all I did was open up MAP01 with sv_nomonsters on UV, spawn in a chaingunner, and sit there
BD chaingunners really only do 3 or 4 damage per bullet

>>5026652
Honestly, the ZM66 rifles are all over the place, you might as well treat them as disposable.
If you feel yours is giving you too much trouble, throw it away and pick up a new one, you have nothing to lose.

If you want to just skip the headaches of the ZM66, try out the Vulcanette, it will just eat from 'bootleg' magazines with extremely little issue, and it will never overheat. It's heavy and needs a battery, but the low RPM is easy to control and problem free, while the high RPM is like shooting a chainsaw, you can decimate a hellknight or even baron of hell if you can keep the thing on target, and you can absolutely sweep a group of enemies in an emergency.

>>5026686
That's kind of the crux of it.
Making maps for Doom is just really simple, especially with modern programs like Doombuilder.

Duke Nukem 3D is just more complex to map for, as I understand.

>>5026692
Build's harder to map for but also has more capabilities.

>>5026695
Oh yeah, you can do lots of things with Build, that's true, you can see that in just the original levels, but you have to know how to do it too.
If you don't understand how to make a level in Build, all those capabilities mean nothing to you.

>>5026695
besides dynamic slopes, what can build do that gzdoom can't anymore
>inb4 "run on old hardware"

>>5026683
I don't agree at all, Duke authors all have their own styles and personalities and Vanilla-fetishism never took off in the Duke community because by it's nature, the engine allows for a lot more personality than Dooms

I hate how this thread celebrates mods and all Build threads revolve around just wanking off the original campaigns and shitting on everything else by people who only just started playing the fucking games

>>5026707
Room over room in a less fucky way.

Though if you're looking at gzdoom for that, the Eternity Engine shits all over it.

>>5026528
Quake gets map jams nearly every month now my man, the gameplay is enough of its own thing that gameplay mods are just kinda pointless compared to Doom stuff

>>5026721
gzdoom has eternity's static portals though

>>5026607
Metadoom is nice, but the fire extinguisher slot being 3 gets annoying when switching weapons, and the holy water pistol basically becomes "free health regeneration, just add water floor".

>>5024883
doom 3 and i didn't really get into the series until much later because of that.

i did like the movie however.

>>5026563
>>5026680
>Not excellent
As someone who considers DOOM a masterpiece and has no experience with PWADS, I'm curious what you guys consider to be excellent DOOM map design. What are your recommendations? I like to use chocolate doom if that makes a difference.

>play pirate doom
>hurr activate opengl renderer
>it's already on you fuckers
>the wad forcibly kills you at start of map 2 because doesnt understand i'm indeed running opengl
into the trash.jpg

Is Zandronum completely abandoned?

>>5026798
>open command line
>nextmap
happened to me too, kinda sucks because the second level is pretty cool

How do i replace the heartbeat monitor thingy with actualy HP numbers in HD?

>>5026804
It's the only multiplayer port that isn't a ghost town

what's /vr/'s opinion on the lithium wad?

>>5026798
>>5026806
>https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Pirate_Doom
>with the final update being on the 6th June, 2014
>https://zdoom.org/files/gzdoom/bin/
>gzdoom-bin-1-8-06.zip 2.9 MiB 2014-May-08 15:38
>https://zdoom.org/files/gzdoom/bin/gzdoom-bin-1-8-06.zip

fixed

>>5024883
I was born in the year 2000. My dad was a huge fan of Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. He played it constantly. I was introduced to that first then I moved on to Doom and Quake by myself later when I was like seven or eight.
I remember very distinctly sitting on my dad's knee holding down the use key to complete objectives like draining passageways on those old Wolf ET maps. The sounds of the ladders, wrenches, and the tweezers are burned into my memory from that game. I didn't even know there were guns in Wolf: ET. My dad told me it was a "building game"

When i first played Doom it was a flash port. I was never actually allowed to play a game with guns and shooting. So naturally Doom changed how my brain worked on so many levels. The guitar riffs, chainsaw, shotgun... it just changed me on a huge level and I have loved Doom ever since that time.

Sometimes it still kinda shocks me that I'm one of the youngest people here. I started posting here when I was 16 and now I'm 18.

>>5025027
This is me >>5026882


I totally relate, my dad always played UT2004 around me and let me fly the hovercrafts. I remember playing CoD1 GOTY edition with my dad as well.

>>5026804
No, it's the one that's decent multiplayer and you still get people like combine_kegan developing mods for it.

It's glacial update cycle is becoming more of an advantage over GZDoom with Graf's fetish for tearing out support for features left and right.

>>5026798
>>5026806
it works in 3.3.2, the next version did the on the fly renderer change

>>5024752
Does any kind anon have a link to the Roland audio files for Heretic and Hexen? I successfuly got the ones from Doom1/2/FD from http://sc55.duke4.net/games.php# working with Crispy Doom, but I haven't found any for Heretic/Hexen despite there being .cfg files for them in the chocolate-doom code.

Anyone else playing Sharpshooter 3D?

>>5026818
>>5026898
>multiplayer
Ah, that may be why I can't find a decent HUD mod for it.

>>5026898
dakka still works in zandronum too, although no one plays it online (probably because you practically need slaughtermaps for dakka coop)

>>5026910
Are there decent hud mods for anything? I know shit like UDV works for it but that's awful.

>>5026924
Fuck, I forgot about that, it's probably also that Dakka isn't complex derivative mod number 87 so it's not been noticed by that average Zandronum users.

>>5024883
It was 2011, I was a Junior in High School, and some Sophomore lent me his flash drive that had ZDoom, all the official Doom iwads including Heretic and Hexen, and several hundred megabytes worth of pwads, the majority of which were pure garbage.

I had a lot of fun, but I was also a babby who didn't know Doom didn't have vertical mouselook or jumping. I was really baffled sometimes how easy it was to get a secret by just jumping to it, or how I could skip huge portions portions of levels by jumping over a barrier.

I have always downloaded weapon and gameplay WADs but never maps and I got sick of Doom 2's maps. recommend me some essential maps to get

>>5024752
So this happened
>https://steamcommunity.com/games/410710/announcements/detail/3098929145092416976

And its free to mod as you please

>>5026968
They probably only did that because they got so much shit for promising the source for it and then released the Mac source or some shit.

>>5026968
Oh fuck. Time to replay System Shock.

>>5026968
You should respond to the news post.>>5024753

https://store.steampowered.com/app/873150/SharpShooter3D/

Another of them Russian paid Doom mods, only time will reveal what legally dodgy treasures lie within it.

What do you guys do when you're too fucking depressed to work on anything, but you know you've been putting off working on projects too much? Getting harder to get back into my projects with each day lately.

>>5026968
They KINDA teased about it yesterday
>https://twitter.com/NightdiveStudio/status/1037402157438234624
also here''s the trailer
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhFP-vGmh9I

>>5026976
I don't see anything that I immediately recognize, asset wise. It still doesn't look good, but it might be, maybe, not illegal...

Rewired just came out too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xp7nxMlX4g

Just an FYI if anyone cares.

Doom1+2 (and some other wads)/Duke 3D/Quake 1+2 can be played via homebrew on the Nintendo Switch now.

>>5026927
I like UDV. You can keep just the gauges if you want too. The issue is that UDV for Zandronum is stuck on an old version.

does nun with a gun have a holy water pistol?

>>5026804
It's latest release is from 5 days ago.

>>5027017
yes, it's the shotgun

>>5027002
post links. What ports got ported over? What about support for dehacked patches? Boom compatibility? ZDoom/GZDoom?

>>5026965
https://www.doomworld.com/10years/bestwads/

>>5026718
Doom fags also like shitting on PWADs and especially gameplay mods (like Brutal Doom), it became a trend here. But since the original campaigns were so garbage, while the game has so huge capabilities, it's inevitable that user content gets more focus.

It's actually interesting that people compare Allen Blum to Levelord or Bob Travis and their unique design in Build threads. But really, it would be awkward to talk about like "hey, that's Refueling Base, just 10 empty and flat rooms glued together... go away fag, it's a masterpiece compared to Citadel”.

>>5026808
Please respond

>>5026687
This is old. They now deal more damage.
Also, you forgot to compare their accuracy on long distances.

>>5026808
>>5027042
I don't think you can.

>>5027041
>the original campaigns were so garbage
see >>5026778

>>5027041
>Doom fags also like shitting on PWADs and especially gameplay mods
Around here? Hardly.

>>5026778
Double Impact
Nihility
BTSX

>>5026808
>>5027042
You don't, that's not how health and damage works in HD. Go by how your face looks, then try to stop bleeding and to contain other damage.
Very serious injuries can be managed, but only magic can actually really heal them properly.

>>5027039
It's all just vanilla shit my man.

>Chocolate Doom
https://gbatemp.net/threads/chocolate-doom-ported-to-the-nintendo-switch.506909/

>Duke32 (is a SUUUUPER old build. Only playable on portable mode. Docked crashes. I think it's even a port of the Vita port of the psp port. Doesn't support Polymer stuff. Vanilla as vanilla gets.)

https://gbatemp.net/threads/duke-nukem-3d.502386/

>Quake 1+2
https://gbatemp.net/threads/nxquake-a-quake-port.517031/#post-8265094

https://gbatemp.net/threads/nxquake2-a-quake-ii-port.517139/#post-8264289

>>5026978
Happens to me often. I get long periods like that, then I mod furiously for a while. rinse and repeat. I've got no real solution.

>DoomRPG got picked up and continues development
fuck yes.

>>5027086
You mean... like an RPG mod?
Or like a port of mobile games?

>>5026808
The changes to health mechanics at this point make knowing the exact number almost useless. The mugshot is as specific as you need for your current HP, and the medikit's analysis function lets you check the penalties to your max HP.

>>5027091
the RPG mod. It was on ice for a while due to development hell and complexity until someone continued its development
https://github.com/Kyle873/DoomRPG

Any updates on the Samsara Monster Addon?

This is your Caco

>>5027102

>>5027102
This is drugs.

>>5027102
>>5027104
This is your Caco on drugs.

Any questions?

>>5026908
p l s
a n s w e r
a n d
o r
r e s p o n d

>>5027061
Try Brigandine or Breach.

>>5026984
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes?
https://mikestoybox.net/doom-maps/

>>5026486
>whinny
He's not wrong about game journalists tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOjXaAZHEQE

>>5024883
>tfw when I was a wee lad my mom would set me in her lap and teach me how to play Doom95, and would move while I shot demons
I can still hear her saying "use the chaingun on the big pink boys" and cheering me when I killed them. She wants a computer so I'm probably gonna show her what doom can do now.

>>5025823
>>5025850
do it with freedoom textures. It's pretty weird shit.

>>5026673
>>5026675
>term and kegan
>get multiple blogs following them and harassing them and everyone associated with them
>don't give a shit

>mark
>gets a couple posts of criticism in /vr/
>immediately has to make a twitter rant about how they're being childish babies
>thinks it's super-cool to make a difficulty message ranting about people on the internet being mean to him
>and now if you critique him on twitter he'll sic his GF on you

>>5026083
>Freedoom Phase 1
great taste

any wads with real-world weapons?

>>5026852
Interesting technology, but tech doesn't make for good gameplay. After the "wow" factor wore off, I found it incredibly bog-standard.
It's interesting to contrast with something like Black Warrior, which is running on such primitive tech in comparison that it's practically held together with duct tape and glue, but so much is happening and there's so much in it that it's wild to play.

>>5026882
Haaaah, congratulations on avoiding your underage ban. Good to have you with us.
God it's depressing to know that people born on 2000 are 18 now, though.

>>5025450
Oh, ffs this was discussed last time.
>it wasn't a portal
>durrrrrrr
>checks doombuilder
>wrportal

It's up for "debate", you choose what you want to believe, but the hard facts don't imply that he died at all.

>>5026995
oh, one of my friends did voice work for that

>>5027183
wrportal is an internal gameplay reference, unless you believe the heretic gargoyles are also the imps

>>5027183
>needs to check doombuilder
and you failed

>>5027187
>muh doomguys in a rocketwheelchair
it's what ever (you) want to believe buddy.
But there's no hard evidence that he died.

>>5026965
scythe 2 is good for gameplay mods that make you more powerful than normal

>>5027190
Search the doomwiki then friend. if you detest doombuilder so much

>>5027194
>But there's no hard evidence he died.
>portals don't take away your inventory
>dying and pistol starting does
I don't know why this puts a bee in your bonnet so much, but I'm going to argue otherwise because of it.

>>5027194
>muh doomguys in a rocketwheelchair
what did he mean by this?
no, seriously, what the FUCK did he mean by this?

>>5027148
Mutiny 2.0
it's simple and good

Doomguy doesn't get ambushed after Phobos Anomaly in the Jaguar/PS1/etc versions of Doom.

>>5027205
>pistol start in each episode
>it was explained in the novel
>there was no obituary
>you can't get to 0hp in that room
need i go on?

>>5027224
yes

>>5027224
>it was explained in the novel
Not canon.
>there was no obituary
The entire interscreen is an obituary. "It's not supposed to end like this!" is commonly what people say before they die suddenly.

>>5027224
>it was explained in the novel

do you seriously believe in the alien demons idea

>>5027136
That's cute.

>>5027227
>in the console variations the room did not exist at all
>kditd was a shareware demo - ending was a sneak peek to the next episode.
>the episode ending text doesn't say he died

>>5027234
Different guy, but I think just the idea that it's a teleporter that can only transmit living matter, is one that makes sense, even if that isn't canon to the game.

Personally, I think the transition between Ep1 and Ep2 is open to interpretation.

>>5027096
Too bad you have to wait until a miracle happens in order to use the newest versions, because Yholl will NEVER EVER get new DRLA done.

>>5027243
>in the console variations
and you out

>>5027243
>in the console variations the room did not exist at all
So do Archviles literally not exist at all, then, because they didn't appear in the consoles?
>kditd was a shareware demo - ending was a sneak peek to the next episode.
And yet it still persisted even in the full version, and the remastered re-release.
>the episode ending text doesn't say he died
The ending text also doesn't say he suddenly lost all his strength and decided against carrying his weapons anymore, and start careening into phobos riding a unicorn shitting out ice cream cones.

>>5027256
nice argument guy, but you didn't refute the other ones.

>>5027248
>is open to interpretation.
Oh, absolutely, this is the only real answer.
I just told this guy I'm arguing just to keep buzzing in his bonnet and he's still going. I don't know why.

>>5027257
>he lost his strength to carry guns after episode 2
>and episode 3
>and doom 2
Yep.

>>5027265
Doomguy is a clumsy butterfingers.

Am I right to assume the people here probably don't like Brutal Doom?

>>5027261
>i was just pretending to be retarded
whatever

New idea: what if we all banded together to pressure HistoryTV into making a Forged in Fire spinoff called "Hadestect". Contestants have 24 hours or more to create a classical DOOM map or mod (source-ports are OK).

>>5027276
Fuck off.

>>5027276
I like it, I also make fun of it constantly because it's got some real wonky shit in it.

>>5027278
This is the stupidest fucking idea.

>>5027278
not me btw

>>5027285
If not you, then who the fuck do you expect to do it?
Not your personal army. Fuck off x2.

>>5027276
it's ok but Brutality is better.

>>5027276
/vr/ is not a hivemind, no matter how much salty crybabies will tell you otherwise. Some like it, some don't, don't be a faggot about it.

>>5027141
>>get multiple blogs following them and harassing them and everyone associated with them
I don't remember that.

Does anyone play on the zdaemon servers? I'm new to Doom and would like to play with others.

>>5027294
probably because they're grown-ups and don't need to announce to the world when people say mean words to them on the internet
but dspunleashed and associates are still there, it's hilarious how low-effort it all was

>>5027276
PB is better

>>5027261
not him but
>contrarian for the sake of being contrarian

>>5027297
use doomseeker instead.

>>5027305
he said right to his face "i'm going to argue with you"

it's kind of on him for continuing it

>>5027301
Makes sense.

>>5027276
>>5027289
>>5027303
BURL TUMD is better

>>5027309
but he ended up sucking some other anons dick anyway

>>5027315
we're all fags here, anon, sucking dick is a posting ritual

>>5027315
Yeah, he sucked me pretty nice. Weird that it was over an internet argument over the story canon in a 25-year-old game and whether Doomguy died, but I've had stranger foreplay.

>>5024775
>that tight ass
HUH

>>5027208
i thought it was a hoverboard

haha he can't shoot through the torch get fucked fag

>>5027308
Looks great. Thanks anon

I think i'm starting to like Suburbs as a map, the more i replay Doom 2

What classics am I missing, anons?

Taking any and all recs.

Okay /vr/, let's make this thread a little happier. What are some of your favorite maps, and favorite parts of them? For me, it's Freedoom 0.4 through 0.8's Map30. It's a four-sectioned map that's a love letter to every individual theme of Doom 1, starting with a tech base, into ceremonial ruins, into a fleshy mass, and then finally, the stone maw of hell.

>>5027342
Batman doom

>>5027342
pirate doom

>>5027208
guys, should we tell him?

>>5027370
That's already there, pirate.wad

>>5027368
Neat

>>5027276
i like it but i prefer project brutality for it's customization options and larger enemy & weapon variety.

overall i think the brutal formula (which is basically just combines elements of CoD & duke nukem into whatever game that gets the treatment) is pretty fun.

>>5027356
Refueling Station is easily one of my favorite maps, the only thing that holds it back from sheer perfection is the lack of archviles

>>5027371
i'm aware of the meme, what that had to do with anything being discussed is the question

>>5027356
>Freedoom
Looks interesting

>>5027342
golden souls 2 is out

>>5027378
That's also already there, goldensouls2.pk3

How is it possible that the guy in Episode 1 and 2 are the same person when we clearly see the first one die

>>5027376
>guy1 makes statment
>guy 2 makes a statement: unless you believe...
>guy1 throws in a wheelchair because it's more ludicris than guy2s statement
>you comment because your brain can't comprehend shit flinging.

test

>>5026163
RESIDENT EVIL: Codename HUNK is up there

>>5027386
>we clearly see him die
>WE
>SEE
>HIM
>DIE
clearly

>>5027407
The text even says so, what are you getting at frogposter?

So here's what Doom 64 EX keeps telling me on Ubuntu 16.04 while starting but just hanging immediately:

>doom64ex
>Parameters:
>imp::init_image: Init Image
>Z_Init: Init Zone Memory Allocator
>CON_Init: Init Game Console
>G_Init: Setting up game input and commands
>M_LoadDefaults: Loading game configuration
>I_Init: Setting up machine state.
>Available video modes:
>0: 1366x768 on display #0
>1: 1360x768 on display #0
>2: 1280x720 on display #0
>3: 1024x768 on display #0
>4: 1024x576 on display #0
>5: 960x540 on display #0
>6: 864x486 on display #0
>7: 800x600 on display #0
>8: 720x405 on display #0
>9: 680x384 on display #0
>10: 640x480 on display #0
>11: 640x360 on display #0
>native_ui: Setting up Native UI
>Gtk3: Could not load libDoom64EX-gtk3.so
>D_Init: Init DOOM parameters
>STUB update: Update networked property (44:/home/parovoz/games/Doom64EX/src/engine/common/Property.cc)
>STUB update: Update networked property (44:/home/parovoz/games/Doom64EX/src/engine/common/Property.cc)
>STUB update: Update networked property (44:/home/parovoz/games/Doom64EX/src/engine/common/Property.cc)
>STUB update: Update networked property (44:/home/parovoz/games/Doom64EX/src/engine/common/Property.cc)
>STUB update: Update networked property (44:/home/parovoz/games/Doom64EX/src/engine/common/Property.cc)
>W_Init: Init WADfiles.
>M_Init: Init miscellaneous info.
>R_Init: Init DOOM refresh daemon.

Data files (generated .wad, .pk3 and .sf2) are in places described at https://github.com/svkaiser/Doom64EX (/usr/local/share/games/doom64ex to be precise). I recon that the libDoom64EX-gtk3.so is the problem. What do i need to do about it?

>>5027409
>we see him die
>reading is now seeing
we don't witness his death at all, also the text says otherwise.
>Once you beat the big badasses and
clean out the moon base you're supposed
to win, aren't you? Aren't you? Where's
your fat reward and ticket home? What
the hell is this? It's not supposed to
end this way!
>It stinks like rotten meat, but looks
like the lost Deimos base. Looks like
you're stuck on The Shores of Hell.
My guess is, dg thought it was his way home, but was miffed when he found out the only way home is through hell.,

>>5027416
no one cares, fuck off

>>5027428

>>5027416
>Looks like you're stuck on The Shores of Hell.
Jesus Christ, seriously? Uninstalled right then

>>5027389
oh, so you were appealing to monkeycheese in lieu of an actual argument

>>5027342
Interception
Doom: The Damned
No End In Sight
Double Impact
Bloodstain

On a side note: Commandos 2 Destination Paris just released.

>>5027443
WHOOSH

>>5027462
RATATATATAT

What does the one man army encumbrance option in HD do? What should I set it at for the most authentic experience?

>>5027443
>durrr what's he mean here guys?
you didn't contribute anything to the argument anyway so why would you care.

>>5027462
Man, you're really just not good at this, are you.

>>5027485
this is a public forum that anyone can post on
you don't get exclusive rights to an argument

@5027490
and yet i have this (you)

>>5027493
you didn't have one to begin with.
Well go on then, spill the beans, we're all waiting.

Does anybody know Hae Lin and Blaz's height?

>>5027509
5'2" and 5'1", respectively.

>>5027483
>no
Full encumbrance. Every single item you carry on your person is counted towards your total, displayed in the bottom-left corner of the full HUD. Weapons weigh slightly less when selected than when in storage.
>yes
One man army encumbrance. Only your currently selected weapon, inventory items, and all relevant ammo (including ammo used by your inventory items) are counted towards encumbrance.
>weapon only
Only counts your currently selected weapon towards encumbrance. All ammo and inventory items, excepting the backpack and any ammo loaded in your selected weapon, are weightless.

Backpack is unaffected by the setting, it weighs 100 units on its own but reduces the weight of everything stored in it by 50%. On full encumbrance, you want to stuff as much as you can in it, on one man army it's something to consider against keeping things on your person, and on weapon only it's basically just bonus inventory space.

Personally, I play on weapon only for solo play and full encumbrance for multiplayer. One man army's rules never really sat right with me.

>>5027512
Blaz is 5'2, Hae-Lin's 5'3

>>5027183
You have made a powerful enemy today, sign.

>>5027536
Oops

>>5027509
>>5027512
>>5027536

In reality, it's the difference between 5'11" and 6'.

>>5027509
Looks a bit more than that.
Also, that really puts her in I M A G I N E territory.

>>5027550
That was drawn before Kura knew about Blaz's shortness.
She thinks its hilarious.

>>5027554
I prefer to think of her as a tiny tomboy.

>>5027559
That's because she is, I mean 5'3 is still pretty short, and she's definitely a tomboy.

post teeny tiny sprites

any fast-paced andd exciting wads with fast-paced and exciting music?

i need me shin megami tensei doom hopefully they're still working on Strange Journey Doom.

>>5027342
la tailor girl

Any mods with unique game play? Maybe something with story elements, puzzles, etc?

>>5027649
Pirate doom, Golden Souls 2

>>5024762
KEK the timing on that pinky punch

>>5027650
These are really high quality. Thanks anon

>>5027140
which ones me man

>>5027278
nigger what are you doing copying my shit

>>5027416
>you're stuck on The Shores of Hell.
>It's not supposed to
end this way!
he's dead