/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5027105
MFW I'll never enjoy the UK Computer screen because I'm a burger.

MFW I'll never get to enjoy living through the UK Computer scene because I'm a burger.

>>5027108
Well you amerifats missed out. It was awesome!

>>5027108
Dont let youtubers fool you. the Uk's microcomputer gaming scene was a digital toilet.
Not a single fucking thing from that era is worth a damn to anyone except the poor bongs who had to make do with it, now they act like they've got an entire platform of hidden gems.

You've played better games on a Tiger handheld.

>>5027114
yeah, poor us for having to play the definitive version of this game. Sucks for us.

>>5027105
Whoa, is that Sans the Skeleton?

>>5027124
Come on. It's an admirable port considering the hardware limitations, but that's all. Nothing makes it superior.

>>5027124
That's the watered down, edited NES version though, not the far superior Famicom original. Which you didn't play.

the zed ecks speccy was a piece of shit desu senpai

>>5027124
You mean the colorful Nintenbabby version

>>5027105
That game on the pic looks pretty nice

>mfw

>>5027218
Who cares, still better than Eurotrash clones.

>>5027105
Dizzy was fucking cool.
Loved my Amstrad CPC

>>5027295
You cared, a post ago

>>5027105
but i had dizzy on NES

I liked Chuckie Egg a lot.

>>5027218
Lol the Jap version is made easier, yet the US version is "watered down" Get that Nippon dick out of your mouth.
>>5027252
Its better than the arcade version in every way except graphics. Deal with it

>>5027331
Fuck you I knew what it was going to be and I still clicked it fuck you

>>5027295
> be amerifat
> thinks their opinions matter in an english thread
fucking hilarious!

>>5027331
granny's garden! fuck i loved that game as a kid.

>>5027116
ya I remember reading some early issues of retro gamer at barnes n noble thinking "wow these poor people lived in some alternate reality where everything was really shitty".

Where are my BBC Micro bros at? Let's lord our superior gaming machine over the ZX Spectrum cucks.

>>5027667
>BBC Micro

isn't that an oxymoron?

>>5027105
they used the hardware really well. the thumbnail looks fantastic, while up close it looks like shit

While I think we're spreading ourselves too thin I'm still angry that World of Spectrum is crashing

>>5027673
Not for blacked British cucks.

>>5027252
You heard it here folks. colors in a video game are bad.

So is this just purely a speccy thread?
I have one floating around in the attic (Be meaning to pull it out) I remember playing this game an awful lot that and Batman.

burgers will never know what its like to create their own pixel art indie game in a time that mattered or pay ~75% less for games or to get free games over the radio/television.
burgers will poo poo even their own computers like the C64 just because europoors became its biggest market.
Being this buttblasted lads

>>5028361
Britcucks will never understand that Burgers do know about, they just arent impressed.

>>5028361
>pay ~75% less for games
Those games are worth even less. Why brag about getting absolute shit for cheap or free?

>>5028361
>pay ~75% less for games or to get free games over the radio/television

Point one. Americans have more disposable income on average than Europeans.

Point two. Everyone and their mother pirated games back then so no one was ever deprived of free shit.

Why do Americans have to make everything about them

>>5027114
that's the version where you can't move the the left, yes?

thoughts on the Amstrad?

>>5027329
Wouldn't it actually be that the NES one was made harder as happened in other games (notably contra hard corps?

>>5027114
Nah everything that was ever good on Amiga got ported to c64. We didn't miss a single thing.

>>5027105
I like the bottom border art a lot

Sometimes this place makes me feel I'm alone in thinking games can be good on any system. My only experience with computer games is DOS and Windows (starting with 3.1), but I often see images/art of kids enjoying their computers across the pond and it looks like we were all having the same fun in the 80's/90's. I find comfort in that.

>>5028867
>50hz
>same fun

>>5027105
> Inevitable pointless argument thread.

That said, what the Americans don't understand well is that a predominant home *computer* market, rather than consoles, gave the UK far greater variety than Nintendo's drip-feed of conservative games. "Nintendo doesn't give your programmers".

The UK has some of the best programmers in the world, some of the best creative talent and numerous long-standing games companies and personalities.

Another aspect of the difference between the UK and America is the American cultural blind optimism rather than Britain's cynicism. Only in America would people pay $2000 for a full Apple II system and then proceed to worship Apple's generosity, when we had the Speccy for £100.

>>5028768
>thoughts on the Amstrad?
Good graphics, but the sound chip could be better. Too many Spectrum ports running like shit though.

>>5028909
>worships Amstrad and Commodore instead of Apple
Not sure how this is supposed to demonstrate some sort of "cynicism" when it's just a different flavor of brand dick-riding.

>>5028928
Amstrad & C64 were cheap and not pretentious. Is there any comparison to be made between Steve Jobs and jack Tramiel / Alan Sugar?

>>5028909
yeah all those great british games that aren't racing games.

>>5028937
You didn't answer my question. How is worshiping a brand that's not "pretentious" so essentially different from worshiping a pretentious one? You're still a fucking brand dick-rider. There's no cynicism there. You just glorify, idealize and romanticize a different consumer product and its surrounding culture.

Why do Burger posters have to turn every home computer thread into an America vs Britain circlejerk have they even seen a continental.

>>5027112
said no burger ever

>>5027331
>play this in class
>make a suggestion
>doesn't work and everyone laughs at me
>never raise my voice in class again

Fuck you, Mrs. Garrett.

>>5028909
The British design philosophy is one of the reasons their games usually sucked. Lots of program wizardry in service of a bullshit, nigh-unplayable wreck of a half-baked "game" concept.

>>5027105
Is this a real screenshot? I didn't know ZX Spectrum can look like that, I thought it had 1bit graphics.

>>5029286

>>5027105
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iI2G8EpGqY

play this game, now!

>>5029286
Yeah, you're describing Rare perfectly.
Most games in any country are shit. Think how much shovelware shite did USA or Japan shift out. UK had less good games because they had less games, period, because it's a much smaller country than USA. Get out of here with this pseudo smart bullshit.

They had a few talented guys like the Gollop brothers who knew what they were doing, but sadly the vast majority of British game coders in the 8/16 bit era were beyond horrible.

>britbongs always claiming Americans didn't have microcomputers and only had the NES
>completely ignoring that America had every machine they did except the Amstrad CPC and the shit that nobody cares about anymore like tangerine and oric
>yes, even the spectrum, which wasn't even a blip on the radar over here because it's a glorified calculator
>nobody cared about closed architecture micros outside of the C64
>UK anons seem to be 100% unaware that the home computer market in America very much existed but was dominated by the IBM PC and its many, many clones
>"oi you cunts dinnae even ave the speccy, it wuz only ness for you sorry lot innit"

My favorite though is how every time an American mentions the video game crash (when talking with other Americans) some fucking British idiot has to rush to the scene and loudly proclaim "WE DIDN'T HAVE A CRASH, STOP THINKING AMERICA IS THE WHOLE WORLD." And yet >>5028458 seems to be the common view among Europeans. Really gets the noggin joggin.

>>5029713
well of course euros didn't have a crash because there wasn't a market to begin with

>>5029713
>yes, even the spectrum, which wasn't even a blip on the radar over here because it's a glorified calculator
The ZX Spectrum was never sold here.

>>5029774
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Sinclair_1000#ts1500

maybe next time don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.

>>5029774
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Sinclair_2068

maybe next time don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.

>>5029774
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Computer_2048

maybe next time don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.

>>5029774
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Sinclair_2068

maybe next time don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.

>>5029962
That's not a ZX Spectrum and it's also not fully compatible with them.

>>5029965
That's not a ZX Spectrum and it's also mostly incompatible with them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Sinclair_2068

>>5029965
>based on the exact same architecture as a ZX Spectrum and even uses Sinclair basic
It's the equivalent machine for the US market. To say that it somehow doesn't count because it isn't 1:1 compatible with a machine that sells well on the other side of the world and with a totally different video standard is a reach. This is a Spectrum repackaged and reworked (with improvements like an AY chip before the 128k Spectrums had it and a cartridge slot without the need of an additional interface) specifically for the North American market. Just because it's not the exact same machine as the UK model doesn't make it any less factual that this was Sinclair trying to break into the American market.

I don't think it's possible to have euro computer threads here without some moron seeing their graphic limitations and bad ports of games that were infinitely better on console and instantly dismissing them as shit. They don't dig into the library, find games that despite the hardware limitations were remarkably playable and interesting from a game design perspective, or even play them at all. Nah they're just highlighting those shit ports of SF2 and Castlevania as the 'best' they could do. Which they weren't.

>>5030158
they should just ban european IPs from this board

>>5030158
we can only take so much sensible world of soccer

>>5030191
>sensible world of soccer still gets community updates
what the actual fuck
i mean it's just a sports sim
Was it actually THAT good?

>>5030196
every year Tecmo Super Bowl on NES gets a new romhack that updates it to the roster of that current year. This has been going on for over a decade. Basically, don't underestimate the dedication of sports fans.

how come speccy was so good for isometric games? they could be way better on any given hardware instead of this poopoopeepee shovelware machine

>>5030223
>how come speccy was so good for isometric games?
It had relatively free form bitmaps similar to the Apple II. It wasn't as easy to do isometric on the C64 due to its tile graphics.

Born in mid 80`s which I guess is too late for the primetime of these computers. Still started playing games on a c64 though. Outside of some childrens tat (postman pat and fireman sam) I recall being quite fond of kikstart 2, HERO, shoot em up construction kit and fantasy dizzy.

>>5028768
Loved it, my first computer growing up. Big part of my childhoof. I still watch playthroughs on youtube when I need some comfort

>>5029662
So which is it? Was is vibrant expansive market of unique games or was it so small that they couldn't even manage a decent shit/not shit ratio?
even games that were good everywhere else, like Contra, were raped and murdered by their machines.

L'ABBAYE DES MORTS

I played it for the first time a while back. If that's what the Speccy could do than it was a perfectly capable machine that gets a bad wrap due to the development standards of the time.

I'm am American and I wanna get into the speccy. Is there any benefit to playing on original hardware? I'm not interested in collecting physical media since it's pretty much all tape software and I have zero chance of finding tapes in the US, so I'd be using a solution like the DivMMC. Having never played on a real spectrum I'm curious if there's any sort of inherent difference in playing on an original machine vs emulating. I like to play on original hardware even for machines I never had growing up and have zero nostalgia for, like the C64 and Atari 2600 and I have no doubt there's plenty on the spectrum I'd enjoy. Is it worth it for a burger like me to go through the hassle of importing a spectrum or should I just emulate?

>>5030537
The machine itself is not good to use with the worst keyboard this side of an old V-tech toy.
I'd say emulate.

Some spectrum games look like dogshit but others that know how to use the system's color palette and limitations properly are god tier aesthetic

came here to post this fucking sassenachs

I'd so love if those c64/speccy threads would have people talk about the games instead of dumping top 10 lists giving only names of games. Really makes one not care about the ones not being repeated often since you got no reference or real motivation to look them up without some incentive. And that's bad because you might be missing something fun. They might be fucking masterpieces or shovelware, who fucking knows.

There's something charming about old ZX Spectrum and Commodore 64 games, can't quite put my finger on it though.

>>5029652
>ZX Spectrum
>Spectrum
>1-bit

Found the full retard

>>5032235
it's almost like no one actually plays that shit because even euros realize it's shit.

>>5032289
Yeah I'm an eurofag and even so it's hard to find stuff that isn't like all in German or about the same games again and again.

The worst is that there are things worth a damn hidden in there, but it can't be any less obvious. Specially when the title sounds super bland but the game is actually interesting, even if just for some historic context or "good idea with shit execution".
C64 fans do a terrible job at promoting what's good about their favorite system.

>>5032304
>C64 fans do a terrible job at promoting what's good about their favorite system.
It's the same for all the euro home computers. They just end up being pointless nostalgia threads because they've never gone back and critically re-evaluated the games of their childhood. So you just get the same mindless lists of 50% awful coin-op ports and then chimp outs when people inevitably go "this is clearly crap". They're nothing but troll goldmines.

>>5032441
all you have to do is compare the c64 mini vs the nes mini, nuff said.

>>5032441
Americans are just as guilty of this with Keen and Jazz Jackrabbit and I don't go to Keen threads to shitpost and act like a retard. Most games made in the west were not particularly amusing and changing continents isn't going to fix anything, that doesn't mean you can't still enjoy them.

>>5032461
maybe you should? Ever thought about that?