/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[09-02] DAKKA SSG revamp in latest alpha
http://jinotra.in/downloads/mods/doom/dakka/dakka-0.10alpha-2018-09-02.pk3

[09-02] Audio level rework in new version of Babel
https://my.mixtape.moe/mrcokp.pk3

[08-30] LOTX Demo v2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwiv2gwbnxbwjhj/LOTX-DemoV2.rar?dl=0

[08-29] Anon shares GZDoom gameplay mod compatibility patches for Heretic, Hexen, and Chex Quest
http://www.mediafire.com/file/zkt5vzcjh65r9ny/Almost_Universal_Doom_for_Heretic_patch_V0.2.7z/file
http://www.mediafire.com/file/cxs2055thu8zd2x/Almost_Universal_Doom_for_Hexen_patch_V0.1.7z/file
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ltm30tpj80h222o/Almost_Universal_Doom_for_Chex_Quest_patch_V0.1.7z/file


[08-29] GEC PSX Master Doom Beta released, incorporating missing PC levels into the PSX version
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101161

[08-27] SM186 for Quake released, 12 Terracotta-themed maps
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61621

[08-26] GZDoom 3.5.1 released, implementing a "resolution mode selector"
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=61800

[08-25] A more recent build of TerminusEst's Booster mod
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nt4ycstu42sc4dq/te13-Booster.pk3?dl=1

[08-25] Anon shares a Hexen 2 map
https://mega.nz/#!pl1kxKJY!Z-6tXu5l_hOqI-H3Goy8Ga-lbfXMTJe1rqOAFaUG0_8

[08-25] Alien Armageddon mod for EDuke32 released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/duke-nukem-alien-armageddon/downloads/duke-nukem-alien-armageddon-10

[08-23] Combined Arms v1.3 as well as 'Combined Harms' officially released
https://combine-kegan.itch.io/combined-arms

[08-23] EDuke32 and BStone source ports now on the PSVita
https://wololo.net/2018/08/22/
https://wololo.net/2018/08/13/

[08-23] La Tailor Girl updated to 1.66, featuring a myriad of changes
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=300#p1069845

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Chainsaw Archie needs to happen.

Anyone else played happy time circus part 2?
I is there a part 1?

>>5019965
>Audio level rework in new version of Babel
Please note than this is a pre-release type thing, definitely not the final version so if you have feedback on the new pain sounds or suggestions on how to improve them, please tell me.
I'll also let them be turned back to default with a setting once they're actually finished, so don't worry if you think they just sound so awful that it can't be fixed.

>>5019974
Yes.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/circus666

>>5019905
Of my real favorites, I'd say...

For Doom:
>E1M2, E1M3, E1M5, E1M7.
>E2M2, E2M4, E2M5, E2M6, E2M7.
>E3M2, E3M3, E3M4, E3M7.
>E4M1, E4M9.

For Doom 2;
>M2, M4, M5, M6, M7, M8, M10, M11.
>M18, M19.
>M23, M28, M29.

For TNT Evilution:
>M2, M4, M6, M7, M11.
>M13, M15, M16, M18, M19, M20.
>M21, M23, M24, M26, M29, M31.

For Plutonia, I actually haven't played it in like, fucking forever, so I can't much give a good opinion on the maps. The last time I played Plutonia, I was a little shit who just cheated at games and didn't appreciate challenge. I'll have to give it a run some day.

>>5018817
That is fancy as fuck.

rena

>>5019971
Why is he wearing flannel

>>5019996
because he'd be like a demonic version of this guy.

>>5019996
You're right. He should be wearing FIREBLU

>>5020017
A pissed off southern bearded women in a dress like that

>Its on the OP
well fuck, now I have no excuse
Im gonna shut up now until I have something presentable, see if I can get in touch with some quack mappers and get their input on how to go about things
just wanted to say thanks

>>5020063
So Samsara is incompatible with GZDoom?

>>5020072
No. Samsara works on GZDoom.

>>5019963
Could the 3DO and 32X handle Quake? The world may never know

>>5020125
The 32X could handle Doom, the problems being that you can't fit all the levels or enemy rotations in a 4mb cartridge without some serious compression.
Also the music could have sounded alright if it wasn't rushed out the door.

For the 3DO, I couldn't say how well it could handle even Doom, because the 3DO port of Doom was a super rushed port of the Jaguar port with no optimization applied to it, it could probably have been made to run better.

For Quake, no way in hell that the 32X could ever do Quake, for the 3DO, maybe, if someone like Lobotomy Software got to do it.

Mark you hue fuck go and save the National Museum of Brazil!

>>5019963
We should all have a go at coloring the op-image and then post results.
It'll be fun

should I replay Going Down? Or finish ancient aliens finally

>>5020278
both

Do we know what weaponsets is the next Final Doomer update going to include?

So, which one looks better? This?...

>>5020279
are there any other fun, gimmicky, difficult and vanilla intended megawads I should know about? (Aside from valiant)

>>5020282
Or with every light turned on? I prefer the first one personally, monsters aren't hard to see that way

99% of doom played and discussed on here (gzdoom , Zand, Chocolate doom, PRboom) Is about as retro as emulator discussion.

Why is this thread in /vr/

>>5020284
>>5020282
why are you even asking this question? Can you REALLY actually not decide between the first one and the abortion that is the second one?

>>5020284
i like this one, you can feel the x-mas spirit

>>5020285

>>5019963
Okay, can we actually settle this now. Does the doommarine die in episode 1? Or is this a dumb zoomer interpretation of what happened.

did sgt mark make the hell on earth starter pack? i'm playing through and it's honestly kinda fantastic

>>5020286
It sometimes looks okay-ish, but I wanted a second opinion
Also, how the fuck is the software renderer SLOWER than fucking OpenGL on GZDoom 3.5.1?

>>5020293
it is.it takes place in deimos not hell.

>>5020285
Also relevant.

>>5020293
Left for dead.

>>5020293
he died

he just kind of got better

>>5020301
He did. Mark has always been a much better mapper than a gameplay modder.

>>5020293
he survived with on 1hp or more

So, how do Icon of Sin death exits work?

I just woke up from a dream where I was playing a Doom mod where you went fishing. Game gave you a pair of rubber boots with infinite damaging floor protection, and you cast a line into some nukage to catch tiny demon fish.

>>5020293
he ended up on deimos which begins to merge with hell through out the levels. so yes, a dumb zoomer meme

>>5020315
and the way he got to deimos was through........

>>5020314
Well an anon got that golf wad to work, I'm sure you can do something similar.

>>5020318
a schizophrenic nightmare inducing portal

he didnt die it was just a cliffhanger for shareware

>>5020293
I think he's teleported to a crowded area in Deimos and dies.
But everytime you die you respawn with your pistol. And everything you killed respawns as well. Because when someone dies they go to hell... But hell is already where you are.
So pistol starting after you die is canon!

>>5020320
but it wasn't a portal

so the only other way was through.......

>>5020312
you teleport into a room and telefrag a stack of barrels that's next to romero's head and you both die

>>5020318
>>5020325
whats with the fuckin
> ......

>>5020293
No, he doesn't die.
And no, he's not Dacote either.
Dacote is part of the Doom Bible and that got flushed, along with any attempt at reviving it

>>5020325
>it wasn't a portal

>>5020319
I don't care enough about such a concept, nor do I have enough modding skill to accomplish such a thing.
I just figured my latest weird-ass dream might be of interest to somebody in here.

>>5020331
sorry my dude, it wasn't
you can either make up something that doesn't exist, or accept what actually happens

>>5020328
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis

>>5020293
Why are you asking any of us?
We didn't make Doom.
Go ask Romero

>>5020325
>goes into doombuilder
>highlights linedef
>wrportal

>>5020339
shit, owned

>>5020339
based and redpilled

>>5020338
we didn't make doom, doom made us

>>5020334
Here's a question: Why would doomguy go to hell if it weren't a portal?

>>5020339
nigga got btfo'd lmao

well that puts to rest the doomguy vs masterchef nerd theory when nibbas say doomguy died

>>5020324

Oh Mr. Bubbles

>>5020339

He cute

>>5020297
I would really love to see the D44M interpretation of Crash.

>>5020293


>>5020339
i guess it's settled then

but
how do i navigate the menu

>>5020328
>you teleport into a room and telefrag a stack of barrels that's next to romero's head and you both die
So I take that, as long as the IoS dies, you will always beat the mission even if you end up dying before it ends, right?

>>5020351
because the demons drag people to hell
it's kind of what they do

>>5020362
he just kind of got over it, my dude

>>5020374
yeah, if you're dead when the level ends, you pistol start the next level
so if you hear dying romero sounds, don't restart the level

>>5020382
Hell is not the christian version "hell"
Dooms hell is not a place where people go when they die. I thought this has been established already.

>>5020384
>Dooms hell is not a place where people go when they die.
Not that anon but how do you explain all the skulls,mutilated corpses and rivers of blood, then?

This is for nothing, I just figured I'd post it somewhere in case someone wants to use it as a base for something.

>>5020382
>he kind of got over it
If you can't explain it, then it didn't happen

>>5020384
>Dooms hell is not a place where people go when they die.
>You wonder where bad people will go when they die, now.
it literally is

>>5020390
>If you can't explain it
The explanation is "he got over it".
Doomguy just willed himself back to life because he wasn't done kicking demon ass yet.

>>5020387
Edgy 8th dimension aliens

>>5020384

Disagree with ya there jimbo, DOOM is heavily inspired by 80s heavy metal and fantasy which definitely "romanticizes" dante's inferno hell (modern christian hell).

which one's a. kid

I hope i'm not the only one, but does anyone start to lose interest in doom if they start using gameplay mods? I find when I start going through megawads vanilla I get extremely immersed and finish them all.

As soon as I start playing Meta doom, D4d, brutal doom, complex etc. I get bored third map in any given mapset.

>>5020401

Not really, I find it to be a nice mix-up.
It's not a replacement, obviously, but it's a nice way to experience something I like in a completely different way. Keeps something fresh, like using a different condiment on a sandwich.

what format does doom use for it's music in megawads? I want to start making music, does the port make use of wav and what are the size limitations?

>>5020390
"It's Doom, I ain't gotta explain shit"

>>5020391
>>5020396
>>5020387
>>5020394
the demons were technically genetically engineered aliens in the book

>people calling Doom a Satanic game
>when you literally play as Earth's guardian angel tearing Satan a new one

>>5020414
The books are fanfiction. And they get really weird after the second book.

>>5020284
Maybe if the lights weren't so bright and distracting. But so far I prefer the first one

>>5020414
the books aren't canon

>>5020414
the demons are technically weak artificial intelligences projected into the universe as a set of pixels and locational data for the amusement of extra-universal entities who possess similarly pixellated humans to kill them

>>5020420
>not canon
>released under the same title

>>5020423
They're shit cash-ins, like the Planescape Torment book that gives The Nameless One a name.

>>5020284
Maybe if the lights weren't so bright and distracting. But so far I prefer the first one

>>5020401
Me

>>5020410
You mean what music is normally used in Doom wads? .mid (MIDIs) and .mus (MUS). If you're to make a wad in an advanced format tho, you'd be able to use WAVs, OGGs, MP3s etc.

>>5020423
do you think the zelda cartoon is canon to zelda

>>5020414

>>5020432
i was just fishing for yous, sorry friend

>>5020437
it's ok, i forgive you, i hope we can still be buddies

Does anyone have summaries of the later Doom novels, when shit gets weird?

>>5020425
>extremely niche title like planescape torment
>cash-in
uhhhh

>>5020446
essentially doom guy meets up with imp-chan and caco-chan HATES it and gets extremely jealous and its this like three way thing where doom guy is going behind imp-chans back and leading caco on emotionally, it's a real mess.

>>5020451
Doomguy's fault for not choosing superior Hell Dame.

>>5020452
honestly imp chan is best hdoom monster

>>5020460
She's too charming.

>>5020293
he's still alive and kicking

>>5020293
What's a zoomer? zdoomer?

>>5020470
it's a dumb meme, like the 30 year old boomer one but with all the fun sucked out of it

>>5020470
>that 30 year-old prboomer
>that 20 year-old gzdoomer

>>5020297
thicccccccc

>>5020481
t. z(d)oomer

>>5020489
wow rude

Bad news, the current pistol design I was working on for Kustam ultimately sucked and I had to scrap it
Good news, I think I got something better going on now. Doomguy hand is placeholder for now.

>>5020369
according to audio files for the announcer in QC she's probably coming back, so you're probably gonna get your wish.

my guess is she's probably either gonna be a doomguy clone, based on the doom eternal doomguy or completely rebooted like some of the returning faces from Q3 have already.

also there are apparently announcer lines commander keen as well.

>>5020493
Any chance of seeing the scrapped model for comparison?

>>5020520

>>5020293
I figure it's open for interpretation.

The novels rationalized it by having the main character kind of dissolve, numbing completely both physically and mentally, then gradually realizing he exists again, until he arrives at the destination on Deimos.
Falling on his hands and knees, and realizing he's in a physical space/plane again, he resists the temptation to kiss the filthy deckplates and realizes he's completely naked and has none of his stuff; he's completely defenseless. Finding a weapon and carrying the spare magazine between his teeth, the first thing he does is to look for some clothes, so he has pockets to put things in.
So I'm thinking, by that logic, maybe the event where you step on the large teleporter pad and then get surrounded and attacked by demons, is just some kind of brief psychosis you experience as your physical form is moved and remanifested on the other side.

Possibly, there was never any big thought to it, and they maybe just wanted a surprise ending for people who played the Shareware version, to get people to buy the full one to find out what happens next. Thus why I think it can be open to interpretation.

So does Rachael have a stick up her ass or something? I swear every comments she posts is either cold or bitchy.

Need me Love Live Doom.

>>5020536
Like Patrick Bateman, STUPID BITCHIE! UNDERSTAND?!
whos rachel

>>5020542
The webmaster and top admin for ZDoom forums.

>that 15 year old gzdoomer that thinks gzdoom actually tries to perfectly emulate the og Doom and only plays BDoom

>>5020493
>>5020524
Man, you're going to get to Samson in no time.. I wish I had your motivation.

I need someone who knows the game better than I to tell me if this was truly designed like this or if this just happens to be a bug fixed by another bug.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irNoHfnLXRM&ab_channel=ZeroMaster

>>5020548
Understand it's probably stressful hosting a website and trying to maintain the bandwidth along with paying for the servers. So I can see why she'd be pretty unapproachable.

>>5020556
Doesn't really explain the aggressive diatribes she appends to every ban on the website. Or why she feels the need to chip in on every single ban instead of letting her mods do their fucking jobs.

>>5020559
is she hot looking

>>5020549
>that 30 year old prboomer that still records demos

If she's not hot looking then she doesn't matter to me since I don't even post on the Zdoom forums anyway

I'LL TAKE THE QUIETNESS AS A NO

>>5020554
Was it just a glitched secret area in the first place? It doesn't seem to actually correspond to anything.

>>5020551
I still got a long ways to go I still need to do all this shit before I get to samson:
>finish Kustam's gun sprites, including a fancy equip animation which will probably be spinning it around on his finger
>make kustam's hand sprites
>make Kustam's HUD
>add Kustam's personal jukebox playlist of NES music
>get all of the upgrade items implemented for the gun
>get the staff sprites in
>get all of the staff upgrades in
>add Kustam's subweapons
>make player sprites
>make a proper knightmare mode with a few select monster replacements and new behaviors for all of the monsters
>add the ability to pick up and throw barrels

and then after that I plan on jumping back to Combined_Arms for another update focusing on two weaponsets, a few new crate weapons, and maybe some fancy deaths for monsters in Combined_Harms.
THEN I'll start on Samson.
I'd kill for some help for Kustam's hands and the spinny gun animation.

>>5020570
From Romeros twatter:
Secret explained: A secret teleporter is marked as a discoverable "secret", but when you touch it, you never enter the sector. So you would never get inside the teleporter sector to trigger the secret. The only way to trigger this secret is to be pushed by an enemy into it! #doom

I think he's for real, but a friend of mine thinks he's covering his ass for a level design mistake. I personally think it would be a very huge error to miss during development.

>>5020554
Not really a bug, just an oversight in level design. The sector in front of the teleporter is flagged as a secret but it's normally impossible for the player to make contact to trigger it, because they step up to the teleporter's height when they get far enough inside the sector for it to count.

>>5020575
Romero claims it was totally a feature guys tho. And I kinda find it hard to believe it isn't, seeing as any playtesting would of shown him he wasn't getting all the secrets in the level.

>>5020334
We know what ellipses are, we're asking why you're recklessly misusing them.

>>5020578
Pretty sure he was just being cute.

>>5020575
> they step up to the teleporter's height when they get far enough inside the sector for it to count.
How/Why does that even work like that? I thought Doom doesn't count verticality in it's mechanics.

If I understand you right, you're basically saying that if you are far above the secret, you won't trigger it?

>>5020591
>I thought Doom doesn't count verticality in it's mechanics
Of course it does.

hello /vr/, me and 2 friends had a kind of contest to make a .wad for DOOM in about 2 months and then compare the maps. Now we thought maybe the anons in this thread could try them out and vote for a best map. None of us have any experience with this before, so it might not be the best.
wads at uth5qtst2 with files.fm infront

https://www.strawpoll.me16380303

some things to note:
>valborg-map is a very slow map that you should think about how to explore and solve, not a usual doom map. Its more like a puzzle.
>in drope, quite small amounts of ammo was put in the map. So it may be wise to conserve ammo and use chainsaw or pistol in the start.
>lustmord is just a normal doom map

>>5020578
It's not the only secret like that. E4M3 has a couple of sectors marked as secrets that are occupied by torches so you can't enter them normally, and there's a teleporter marked as a secret in Map27, which you can only trigger if you bypass the teleport linedef entirely. I don't think they were terribly concerned with the intermission screen's numbers during testing, especially given that kills can go over 100% with archvile revives and icon of sin spawns.

>>5020593
But it doesn't?
That's why you can shoot at a wall and hit enemies that stand above it.
Or press a switch by "using" the wall above or below the switch.

>SPOON AND ZORCH, UNTIL IT IS LUNCH
slayed me

>>5020594
/u/th5qtst2 before files.fm*

>>5020596
explosions and the use button ignore height, hitscans and projectile hitboxes don't

>>5020596
You can fire a rocket and it passes over architecture. Enemies can fire projectiles and it pass over as well.
I want this meme to be wiped from the face of the earth.

>>5020596
>That's why you can shoot at a wall and hit enemies that stand above it.
No, you can't. That's not how autoaim works. Explosions have infinite vertical height, that is true, but projectiles and hitscans are fully capable of traveling over and under shootable actors and will only autoaim at them if they're visible to the player.

>Or press a switch by "using" the wall above or below the switch.
Some things make height checks, some things don't. Secrets are one of the things that do, your feet have to touch the floor of the sector for it to count. You don't take damage when you're in the air over a damaging sector either.

>>5020596
Because height isn't checked for with hitscans and projectiles, and not checked for switches (you just need to reach to activate, or hit, the linedef in question, from any height).

You still fall from ledges, monsters still fall from ledges, lifts and platforms still move up and down, you and monsters with them.
It's not 100% accounted for, but height is still part of the equation.

>>5020601
How can hitscan not ignore height? The player and enemies have vertical autoaim.

>>5020595
>I don't think they were terribly concerned with the intermission screen's numbers during testing, especially given that kills can go over 100% with archvile revives and icon of sin spawns.

That's a good point, but it would have been I'd imagine it would of been a red flag in testing. Also the other things you mentioned support Romeros claim that it was made that way on purpose, right?

>>5020606
>Romeros claim that it was made that way on purpose
He's so very obviously kidding.

>>5020605
Autoaim won't target an enemy that you can't see.

hello /vr/, me and 2 friends had a kind of contest to make a .wad for DOOM in about 2 months and then compare the maps. Now we think that the anons in this thread could try them out and vote for a best map. None of us have any experience with this before, so please say what you thought about the maps.

wads at /u/th5qtst2 with files.fm infront

https://www.strawpoll.me/16380303

things to note:
>valborg-map is a very slow map that you should think about how to explore and solve, not a usual doom map. Its more like a puzzle.
>in drope, quite small amounts of ammo was put in the map. So it may be wise to conserve ammo and use chainsaw or pistol in the start.
>lustmord is just a "normal" doom map

>>5020606
I think the bottom line is that Doom 2 was a bit rushed and the vanilla engine didn't make it easy to test secrets. Making sure they were actually accessible was good enough.

>>5020605
autoaim only stretches out to 1024 units; hitscans stretch out to 2048 units
see for yourself - https://files.catbox.moe/z80v51.wad

>>5020541
>franchise itself

half of the lighting in this room is set up

>>5020625
Looks like shit.

>>5020627
How would you improve it?

>>5020627
The fuck is your problem

>>5020293
He dies and becomes a revenant.
Instead of terrorizing the living like our good ol bonehead, he decides to terrorize the demons for all eternity.

>>5020628
Actually finishing the lighting might help maybe I dunno.

>>5020635
>this isn't finish yet
>this looks stupid
>why
>because it isn't finished

>>5020630
I dunno. Other part done, now have to set up all the other individual sectors for shading.

>>5020651
always a pleasure to see anime-posters pissed off

>>5020658
Glad to see you bringing quality posts to the board to enrich everyone's experience.

>>5020653
I like the dust particles reflecting light.
It's probably old hat in Tormentor maps, but I don't play those so it's still novel to me.

>>5020669
same t b h

>>5020653
whats with all the sector specific lights?
i think it's a bit messy/too much, try using dynamic lights instead.

>>5020670
Combined with the snow, yeah. I like the look of "denser" lighting/fog used to represent it.

also this room looks cool with the brightmaps, abeit it's a bit bland architecturally, so i'll need to spruce it up a bit, but not too much or fixing the gimmick will be a pain.

To think I used to do all this shit with voodoos. Some still is, though.

>>5020681
I use a combination of both at times but I can see how one would say that. A dynamic light covering the whole room would look really shit, though, so sector-specific lighting is the go-to.

>>5020330
Dacote wasnt even meant to be a marine

>>5020507
They better keep her faceless

>>5020261
Thanks

office work sure is hell

If someone makes a Pokemon parody with Doom, would former humans be trainers you fight against, treated like Pokemon themselves or both?

Repacks of Doom mods fucking WHEN?

>>5020709
That's shaping up really fucking nicely.

>>5020710
There's been maps of pallet town and shit, I guess the next step up would be turning the layout of each area into a map of it's own.

>>5020709
That oppai mousepad is big enough that you could actually tittyfuck it.

>>5020710
there's literally a mod called pokemon doom

>>5020780
That would make it a Paizuri MousePad
A Paizuri Pad
A PaiPad.

>>5020560
she's probably a smoking hot milf

>>5020685
Voodoo scripting is a fine art, it always brings me a smile when I see it done, such as with Going Down.

>>5020559
>she

Honestly I find anyone over 25 with an overtly female name and a pink avatar to have an 80% chance of being a dude.

>>5020789
She's not gonna sleep with you, Graf.

>>5020789
if she was, her being a total bitch would be fine.
But I'm pretty sure she isn't. Its questionable *she* is even a female at all.

>>5020560
>>5020789
Maybe if you're into /d/.
>>5020801
She probably would fuck him, she orbits the shit around him whenever he posts, and exists to defend him even (or exclusively) when he's being a cunt.

>>5020706
Then where are you gonna bust on?

>>5020063
thanks graf

>>5020425
I was unaware that even existed. Interesting.

>>5020493

>>5020835
it's like you're intentionally building the faces in

>>5020836
That was seriously unintentional, I spent like 40 minutes trying to remove the fucking thing with no avail.

>>5020835
"feeeeed meeeee"

>>5020282
>>5020284
>>5020286

Personally I like the lights. What I /don't/ like is the high res textures and sprites.

I don't think high res textures improve anything. They don't add atmosphere, all they do is do is add detail that's too high for the level geometry to do justice to.

It's made doubly jarring by the juxtaposition with the low res hud and weapon sprites. Cohesion is king, and high res textures break it.

>>5020840
at this rate, GMOTA's gonna stand for "glue mouths onto their arsenal"

>>5020302
>how is not using 3D acceleration slower than 3D acceleration

The real question is what on earth lead you to believe software would be faster than dedicated hardware.

>>5020306
>FIFA 2005 runs on 1994 hardware
>Deus Ex runs on 1998 hardware

There is no need to increase the cutoff. There shouldn't BE a date cutoff for software. The cutoff should be the hardware.

>>5020780
>>5020784
thonk

>>5020835
>>5020840
It looks cool in an om nom nom bullets way.

It prolly fits the setting anyway, vidya weaponsmiths do all kinds of crazy shit when they're making custom weapons.

>>5020858

>>5019978
Doom E1: E1M3
E2: E2M2
E3: E3M4
E4: E4M6

Doom 2: M7 (early part), M11 (middle), M29 (late)
TNT: don't care
Plutonia: M23 or M29
NRFTL: M4

>>5020390
>If you can't explain it, then it didn't happen
So bees don't fly?

>>5020398
>>5020386
What0s this? I haven't lurked the vroom in a while.

>>5020879
A wierd Japanese mod that an anon keeps uploading screenshots of for some reason

>>5020876
The reason bees fly is because they don't give a fuck about the laws of aviation. You know that.

>>5019963
Does cQuake support the Expansion packs at all?

I never used a music wad, what's the best one? Preferably something more researched than some random heavy metal?

Hey does anybody like... have this drawing where it was talking about monster behavior and ZDoom bridges? It was of an imp in a pain state because the bridge height wasn't on level with the actual floor. It was hilarious the first time I saw it.

>>5020858
Implets, when will they ever learn

>>5020373
look up and down to change your selection, use the store button to make your selection

>>5020982
SC-55 versions of the music.

>doom 2 format

>when your level design is so crap you need a giant arrow telling players where to go

>>5020554
Why do people update wiki?
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MAP15:_Industrial_Zone_(Doom_II)#Bugs

Has there been progress made on the Blood port? I haven't been to /vr/ in quite a while.

when is monsters only 21 coming fuck you mark

Any good rise of the triad source ports?

>>5021129
wikia?

>>5021169
> he still doesn't know about wikia problems

>>5020574
There is a significant number of bugs and leftovers in official levels, check the wiki. Most are hardly noticeable and don't affect the gameplay, though.

can any one help me, the mouse movement in bloodgdx is whack, I just can't seem to get it to feel good like in any other game, do I need to even out all the various mouse settings for different scenarios or what?

>>5021128
Doom 2 has a lot questionable levels imo

>>5021216
basically it feels like theres mouse acceleration going on and I see no way to disable it

brutal chex quest when?

Which is the best single level WAD which uses only vanilla textures, and why is it Breach?

>>5020840
>>5020836
>>5020835
finding faces in textures and sprites is fucking funny.

>>5021228
A year or two ago.

>>5021128
DESU the arrow always felt unnecessary to me. I imagine someone spent some time wandering around the map, going over the same areas over and over again, ignoring the places they hadn't been, and he got frustrated and went "fuckit then, apparently you need a fucking arrow".

>>5021128
>>5021252
wheres the arrow?

>>5021263
Next to the building with the stairs in the back, and all the crates inside, iirc.

>>5020493
>>5020524
was this made with aseprite?

>>5021273
Yes. I've been using it extensively for quite awhile now.

Isn't Arcane Dimensions effectively ZoomerQuake?

>>5021309

What is the Takeshi's Challenge of Doom Wads?

>>5021336
The Crystal Maze is probably the closest you'll find.

more shitty screens coming through

i'll rather not spam the thread methinks. cleaned

thanks

>>5021202
Okay, what is the main beef that main beef that many users here and on doomworld have against the wikia platform?

>>5021417
for the purposes of those requiring visual aid, the zdoom wikis are sorely lacking

now that there's some posts between

I know that Commander Keen, BJ and Doomguy are all in the same family, but is Quakeguy part of that family?

>>5021452
I belive it's rathuuhr plausible.

>>5021421
you could just make an imgur album.

>>5020451
Once in awhile it's good to just have a break from killing and being at each others throats and relax

>>5021461
https://imgur.com/a/Th2rboQ

>>5021465
Looks like shit captain. Try less color.

I've been brainstorming different attacks for the imp, but all the good ones have been extensively used by other mods. What are some unorthodox ideas?

>>5021469
like this?

>>5021472
Headbutt
Kicking a fireball in a parabolic arc
Porcupine-like spike shooting

Spirit World from Doom 2.

THE bit concerning how you are supposed to enter the room with two archviles was inexcusable.

Fuck you too, Sandy.

>>5021469
explain yourself

>>5021472
an expanding fire wave that moves a bit slower than the normal attack, but does more damage

>>5021465

I really like these.

>>5021496
thanks strogg

>>5021483
Spirit World is a big ol' fuck you kinda map, the kind that makes you trudge to the store and come back with a copy of "DOOM II Unauthorized Tips and Secrets" so you can figure out how the fuck to get through some of these levels. Or nowdays you just hop on youtube and watch a playthrough.

One thing those sorta levels do help with is showing the player what kind of dumbass tricks work and which ones are easy to overlook or are just plain annoying or unintuitive. It's part of why when I make maps these days I prefer to keep things simple and straightforward.

>>5021492
maybe this will be more to your liking?

whats the deal with demos? why do mappers like them so much?
I assume its to see how people play your levels without having to use something like youtube, but what do I know

What is this "GZDOOM runs like shit on maps with tons of monsters" meme?

I'm playing slaughterfest 2012 and the level with over 2000 monsters didnt lag me at all

>>5020789
>she's probably a smoking hot milf(dad)

>>5020858
why use a sprite trash can when everything else is sector based?

>>5021536
try more than 2 tons

>>5021536
well, excuse me nasa

>>5021536
I dont have a powerful PC, but maps like The given or Saturnine chapel run like a slideshow in compared to prboom+

and the given has no enemies

>>5021536
well, excuse me uac

>>5021536
>t. graf

>>5021557
>>5021552
>>5021549
>>5021547
>>5021543
not an argument

>>5021560
it is when prboom+ runs 100 times faster

Is there a way to fix this? This has shown up multiple times when trying to play certain maps like thunderpeak

>>5021536
I could not even run that shitty "benis" map that some anon posted threads ago

>>5021562
use gzdoom

>>5021574
Wow so everyone sings prboom+ praises but it cant even run hexen maps?

>>5021560
> not an argument
yes it is
100,000 revenants runs smooth with prboom, chugs gzdoom
2<100

>>5021531
because watching how someone plays your map is vital to testing and improving
and demos are much smaller than a video, easier to share, create and use etc.

>>5021576
here's a song for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-izOKsr-zHk

>>5021576
Don't listen to them, gzdoom is the best choice

>>5021576
prboom+ runs vanilla doom maps

hexen format was not designed for vanilla doom

>>5021560
Graf and his program being complete bollocks is a running joke around here, albeit a truthful joke. Are you trying to say something that you don't want to admit?

>>5021576
hexen =/= doom

Does anyone know if I can get the sprites from legendoom into a separate weapon sprite mod?

>>5021576
it's called prboom+ or prhexen+?

>>5021631
prhexen+

>>5021618
They're right there in the files if you're that desperate for them.

>>5021618
> trailblazer
> but not trailblazer
what are you doing

>>5021649
shhhh

Petersen uses novelty/experimentation as the eyewash, to make your thought "skip a beat" in regards to SOMETHING ELSE, to make you take that SOMETHING ELSE for granted, thus falling for the bait you would've regarded as suspicious otherwise.

You are meant to fail. There is no coherent point. The levels are not teaching you anything. There is just enough of an illusion of both (the meaning and the "intended way to progress") to get you thinking about it, so that you will fall for another bait, and so that you will retroactively shift the blame onto yourself, rather than the author ("I should've paid more attention").

>>5021664
oh christ not you again.

r&i

>>5020562
this anon is the people that are trying to kill doom

>>5020549
>>5020562
lmao

>>5020613
looking forward to playing this later! thanks for posting here! :)

>>5020541
>love live sunshine
>HATE DIE DARKNESS

>>5020314
>>5020319
that mr friendly mod has some kinda fishing in it

org

>>5021730
explain

>>5021735
>4 different colored GL lights in one scene
>2 vaguely complementary pairs that clash horribly when put together
Would it kill you to just pick a few colors instead of shoving rainbow trash everywhere?

the acolytes of church

>>5021735
Can you stop dumping your shite here you gargantuan sped

>>5021618
here you go

>>5021741
psx doom is the worst meme

>>5021730
where's feet

>>5021739
You're a bit new here, aren't you?
they're hentai tags.

>>5021741
there's only one color of GL light here.
the cyan glow is fine as it is what it would logicallty do.
not sure what you're talking about dude

>>5021774
two, pardon. forgot the blue light from the gizmos.
other than that only the orange lights and the cryothalum (floor glow) are throwing any color.

>>5021774
You know exactly what I meant faggot.

>>5021782
>You know exactly what I meant faggot.
obviously i didn't:
1: orange light throwing orange light. no issue.
2: cryothalum is basically cold lava, how many times i gotta tell you this shit?
3: orange is indication for powercubes.

>>5021791
>blue, blue-green, yellow-orange, and red-orange
>working together
Your own color sheet even shows that they don't.

>>5021735
Looks shit. Lighting is crap. Go watch Doom Slayer Chronicles and try make something similar.

>>5021762
That sprite is ancient.

>>5021797
Are you insane?

>>5021816
Go ahead and do some basic shape matching for me. Match the big wheel to one of the smaller ones.

>>5021791
this is just confirming you have no idea what color theory actually is

>>5021823
>Match the big wheel to one of the smaller ones.
you can't. there is no match. the absolute closest is double compliment, which you fuck up by putting the left side and making it a related analogue instead of discordant complement

>>5021791
> moods
Should be
> dooms

>>5021830
Congratulations, you've recognized that your choice of colors is bad.

>>5021834
not me, i'm explaining for him so that he can't backpedal out of it

>>5021836
Ah, damn I thought he actually made some progress.

>>5021836
>>5021834
>>5021830
looks like shit desu

>>5021849
nah m8

>>5021849
That's actually far better than before, though the color is still a bit intense.

>>5021849
I like it

>>5021850
>>5021851
>>5021854
wat
>orange compliments and contrasts blue/cyan
>this doesn't look worse

>>5021867
the truth is you don't understand color theory

I would pay top dollar to have this voice acted.

>>5021867
Wow it's almost like you don't understand color theory, or have some pair of reptillian eyeballs that don't bleed when looking at your insane color choices for maps.

>>5021867
you sure you are not a dog?

>>5021867

Yes, orange and blue are complimentary and a lot of artists use it to great effect. But you can't just slap those colors right next to each other and expect it to look nice.
Color theory is a tool, and like all tools, it's possible to use it very improperly.

>>5021867
It's Analogous now.

>>5021881
i dont get any of these memes

>>5021879
now, if you were to swap the colors around would it still look good?

>>5021884
It's not a meme you dip, it's color theory. People go to fucking school to learn this shit. It's not something you can master just from looking at an infographic.

>>5021884
It's in the color theory pic you posted, man.

>>5021816
Stop attacking immediately!

>>5021886

Initial response says no, but I sincerely doubt simply inverting the colors is a good demonstration of it.

>>5021892
MY GOD, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!

>>5021887
>>5021891
sounds and looks like a meme.
>school
we don't need no thought control

>>5021903

>>5021903
congratulations, for once i have no fucking clue how to respond to you.

>>5021903
Honestly thought control might not be the worst thing for you specifically.

>>5021917
That is absolutely magical.

I wish smooth doom would work with anything else

>>5021917
>>5020017

>>5020293
my headcanon is that the demons killed him and resurrected him to torment him

https://www.dropbox.com/s/93sb0lxgomfxq3s/2018-09-03%2020-44-34.flv?dl=0

>>5020293
I always thought Doomguy died and went to hell. What's the ambush at Phobos Anomaly supposed to be for otherwise?

>>5021831
You won't find that in manual, but for centuries color has been known to affect your playing, and how other players react to you.

>>5021989
read the other replies. some anons have the right idea. like this guy>>5020339

>>5022009
What mood is fireblu

>>5022009
why is his name Indigo if he's gray?

>>5021978
> flv
I heard that's some latest streaming format from Google. Dropbox transcodes the file anyway, so there is no point in limiting yourself to that.

You can make the first dark room playable as it is if you add vertical or horizontal stripes of light (lamp-posts, wall decorations) to create contrast for dark shadows of the monsters.

>>5022026
At his school, he was known as indigo kid… now he's just a space marine.

>>5022026
because in vanilla multiplayer you could type messages to specific players by pressing the first letter of their color
g was already taken for player 1's green, so grey was named indigo instead

>>5022032
I'm more concerned about the composition at the start.

>>5022032
also it's either dropbox or youtub, nothing else wants to co-operate

>>5022026
>>5022042
also due to palette limitations, indigo is rendered as grey in-game

>>5022054

>>5019963
YOU'RE BIG
YOU MUST HAVE BIG NUTRIENTS

I've been playing Hell On Earth Starter Pack with BD and man, these are some good maps. Haven't had this much fun in a while.
Was expecting it to be weirdly overdetailed but it still feels pretty DooM-y

>>5019963
What do you guys think about this Wolfenstein-themed total conversion for Doom 2 called Blades of Agony?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FZBVl7f9X0

>>5022148
The author tends to be pretty good at mapping, despite the reuse of a few Freedoom maps.

>>5022182
would probably melt my computer

>>5022182
Didn't like what I'd played, but what I'd played was also at 10 FPS.

Need a little help with getting the soundtrack to work for Quake.
Ive got quakespasm up and it will play the game but no music. I followed the pics instructions and music (Tracks 2-11) are in the id 1 folder but no music plays

you can't go around blowing peoples heads off boy

>>5022215
The tracks need to be named track0x. I had to rename them from track00x.

>>5020840
>That was seriously unintentional, I spent like 40 minutes trying to remove the fucking thing with no avail.
Please don't remove it, it's precious.

>>5022182
This is pretty god damn impressive.

>>5022193
>>5022196
are your computers literal toasters? runs at 60fps on mine with no problem and mine's lower mid-tier

>>5022012
I always liked the idea that Doomguy could literally cheat death by fighting his way out of the afterlife, why you guys gotta ruin it.
I still lack closure on the question of the ambush though.

>>5022225
Theyre already like that
track02.ogg
etc

>>5022230
Mine's lower mid-tier, too. I just don't care for the mod, dude, it's all right.

duuuude

>>5022240
water

>>5022243
lmao.

>>5022236
>>5022225
Nvm. Is there just no music for the first level? It starts working after level 1

>>5021917
>>5021929
Good.
These threads don't feel complete without some FIREBLU sprinkled in.

I will reiterate that FIREBLU themed cereal would be pretty cool. It could even be called CacOh's! or something like that.

There are some pretty nice new textures in func_mapjam1

>>5022256
The Dick Door
The Willy Warp
The Penis Portal

Just curious - why are some total conversion WADs made to work with DOOMU only? For example REKKR. What does the author (if you're here, hey man cool mod) gain by making it for DOOMU instead of DOOM2, like most WADs?

>>5022296
episodic format

>trying to get scr_ofsx/y/x sv_wateramp settings to stay and Xash
Can't seem to get them to stay

The best doom gun ever made.

>>5022276
The Trouser Snake Transporter

had to get rid of the extra space but
greatest doom gun ever made

speaking of the greatest doom gun ever made was it drawn from scratch or frankensprited

>>5022408

Scratch. ScubaSteve has tutorials on how he drew guns.
https://www.doomworld.com/gbd2/weapons/tutorials/gun1.htm

Interesting fight.

>>5022276
The Shafted Slipgate

>>5022413
would using a vanishing point for the gun perspective really help? his tutorial really good

I only recently realized that GZDoom stands for Graf Zahl Doom.

>>5022453
Graf
Zahl
Denies
out
of
Malice

>>5021417
Wikia are scumbags. They constantly insert their own content into wikis ("feature videos") and claim copyright on everything posted to their site as part of the user agreement. The copyright part really fucks over anyone trying to move their wiki to a new platform because Wikia will not allow you to delete the old wiki and will continue to occupy the market share of search engine results.

It's really REALLY fucking suspicious how you can't google up ANY criticism of Wikia because SOMEHOW all search results turn up only Wikia pages.

>>5021417
The main thing about Wikia is that you quite literally only control half of it. Otherwise the Doom Wiki maintainers have an article on their reasons for leaving the website.

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_Wiki:Departure_from_Wikia

>>5022276
The Gateway of Girth

>>5022240
Got a video of that?

>>5021849
Then use a different color combo you dipshit. Cyan can be paired with more than just blue (try red).

>>5022453
The G is for Open GL.

>>5022276
Dong Dimension