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5018361 No.5018361 [Reply] [Original]

>plays melee
>plays NES games
>plays SNES games
>plays quake
>plays syobon action
>does it all for less than $40
It really doesn't get better. The wii is /ourconsole/.

>> No.5018364

>>5018361
>>plays melee
Get out.

>> No.5018365

>>5018364
Why?

>> No.5018420

It's obvious you'll get shat on for this, but I unironically agree. NES emulation in 240p is perfect, especially using raphnet adapter cables with original controllers.

Some of us proletarians don't have unlimited dispensible income you know.

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5018424

>>5018361
>playing with a dildo

>> No.5018441

>>5018361
Wii U is the best console with its three generations of compatibility.

>> No.5018442

>>5018361
can it play n64 roms?

n64 was fucking eons ago

>> No.5018445

>>5018441
can the Wii U play n64 roms?

>> No.5018451

>>5018445
N64 games are not worth playing.

>> No.5018454

>>5018451
they are

>> No.5018457

>>5018451
Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are still the best FPS of all times.

>> No.5018458

>>5018451

Based

>>5018454

Shitty 3D models
shitty cameras
shitty and clunky controls

>> No.5018459

>>5018457
That constant slowdown and postage stamp resolution isn't fun. GoldenEye: Source servers are empty because it isn't fun.

>> No.5018471

>>5018361
Yup. Sure if /yourconsole/. Mine are the others you mentioned and a lot more.

>> No.5018510

>>5018361
no mention of
>plays wii games
Sorry, but you aren't really a wii fan

>> No.5018518

>>5018361
my main emu machine for everything under N64 and PSX

>> No.5018523

Plays Genesis, Neo Geo, and CPS 2. 240p + Component. Costs about $20 and takes 10 minutes to hack.

>> No.5018647
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5018647

>Have a PAL Wii
>Get 50hz Virtual Console releases
>NTSC output is artificially crippled so you can't just load american wads
>Forced Pal60 only works on like 20% of the games
>Be fucked

Thank you Nintendo

>> No.5018649

>>5018458
lol

>> No.5018757

>>5018441
can't do 240p.

>> No.5018794

not retro

>> No.5018813

>>5018364
Is melee too competitive for scrubs like you?

>> No.5018815

>>5018813
Its hardcore fanbase is too cancerous. Kinda like how sonic's is plagued with furries. I know not every member is like that, but better safe than sorry to just boot 'em all out.

>> No.5018837

>>5018361
Quake on Wii was my first time playing Quake
also, best use of IR aiming on Wii somehow.

>> No.5018856

>>5018837
I want this
how do

>> No.5018860

>>5018856
it was like 10 years ago, im sure if you google "Quake Wii" you'll find it

>> No.5018869

>>5018442
yeah, homebrew is super easy and allows you to use pj64 with 30fps and good resolution

>> No.5018882

>>5018860
I found it, took a bit of digging though. thanks for the tip

>> No.5018886

>>5018815
>Its hardcore fanbase is too cancerous
What do you mean by that? Like, they act too elitist?

>> No.5018892

>>5018886
>they act too elitist?
Have you ever heard the meme "No items, Fox only, Final Destination"? That's basically what Meleefags are.

>> No.5018896

>>5018647
you can change your wii region with homebrew. I set mine to PAL so that I could output RGB over scart

>> No.5018898

You can get PSX isos to work if you set it up right, I had to follow a youtube vid

>> No.5018907

>>5018886
have you ever been to a melee tournament? The smell alone should tell you everything

>> No.5018912

>>5018445
Yes, through Wii U mode and through Wii mode

>> No.5018920

Wii emulation is far from perfect. autist like it because it outputs 240p and has minimal input lag (at least when compared to other emulators) but it's still emulation.
plus it has the Nintendo Seal of Quality.

and that's VC. everything else performs worse than it would on a toaster.

>> No.5018921

>>5018920
>plus it has the Nintendo Seal of Quality.
?

>> No.5018925

>>5018896
Yes, i know. But a PAL console can't switch to NTSC, it just makes your screen turn red.

>> No.5018931

>>5018921
Nintendo is extremely anal about emulation. maybe not as much as Byuu, but still.
they wouldn't release GBA on the 3DS even though the ambassador games run 99%.

it's not like Sony's pops on the PSP. you can count a VC title will run from start to end.
but it's still emulation. if memory serves, some games even had the same shortcomings of popular PC emulators at the time.

>> No.5018937

>>5018886
They probably tried to be competitive and repeatedly got their butts destroyed. I don't know why they don't go after for example FPS players just as harshly, probably because they feel like they'd get away with this more. With SSB you have the added hatred of people who thought Nintendo was for kids and assumed if they tried the game they would beat everyone. You also see this hatred against speedrunners, don't get me wrong there are plenty of autistic tranny speedrunners out there, but to lump them all into the same cancer bracket is ridiculous. "oh noes, mommy they're playing with strict rules in a professional way, but you said Nintendo games were for children, you said I would be good at the game!!!".

>> No.5018959

>>5018420
Then you are not a prole you fucking pleb

>> No.5018963

>>5018959
Prole means a poor person. Wii the budget choice for retro gaming. But still for the discerning individual, since it can do the original resolution.

>> No.5018983

>>5018361
>>>/v/
>>>/vg/emugen

>> No.5018985

>>5018441
Are you enjoying limited RGB in vWii-mode?

>> No.5018989

>>5018925
duh, that's what s-video (or component, can't remember) looks like when you route it to a scart-rgb-input.
use the proper hardware.

>> No.5018995

>>5018989
That's pretty retarded, since every single other modded PAL system on earth has never had that kind of problem.

>> No.5019009

>>5018937
Way to prove his point desu

>> No.5019459

>>5018937
Imagine being this delusional

>> No.5019546
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5019546

>>5018886
This old post is Melee's tournament scene in a nutshell. You can also listen to this podcast that describes that yes, they are in fact elitist cheaters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSNLKQvImIk

>> No.5019558

>>5018361
And Windjammers.
And Pm.
And light gun games.
Only needs some PSX.

>>5018898
Show me.

>> No.5019579

>>5019546
This could basically describe Tekken, though...

>> No.5019592

>>5019546
>that screencap
tl;dr it's bad because I don't like it
I really don't get why people get so mad at melee players for playing differently than they do.
Most comp players don't hate casual play at all, they just realize neutral stages and no items makes the game more fair. With items on, you'd be seeing even more foxes, because fast characters can grab items easier.

>> No.5019593

>>5019546
That post doesn't say anything negative about the game other than that the creamt have risen to the top and it's not marketable due to some underage not being able to go in using a unique strategy to destroy experts anymore.

And you can fuck off with your meme podcast, don't think you can sneak it in just because you posted something else.

>> No.5019891

>>5018920
>Wii emulation is far from perfect. autist like it because it outputs 240p and has minimal input lag (at least when compared to other emulators) but it's still emulation.
>plus it has the Nintendo Seal of Quality.
I hate Nintendo. After the 64, it was worthless to me, however I was in my early 20s when the 64 was prime.

The wii is a simple emulation box that outputs great to both HD and SD tvs. I bought my kids a wii when they were little, and they grew out of it...after doing a bit of research, and modding it, it has become the most popular system in the house.....still. It is certainly not perfect, but fills a great niche. It is amazing what is possible with a 32gb sd card and a 100gb external SDD.

You are correct however, that its biggest merit is that it works with SD tvs with 240p available. I use mine for Wii, snes, nes, sega cd & genesis. It is not the best at anything, but is exceptional at most everything. I own a N64 & psx so I don't bother trying to emulate it...it would probably be shit anyway.

I just bought another one for another room in the house. I am hoping this one reads DVD discs. I doubt it, but you never know. $37 dollars and it came with a bunch of accessories. The cost of a wii versus what you get from it is outstanding. Its a good party system, and is great for reliving some old titles...but some games don't feel right because of lag. 1 frame off is bad on platformers. It makes me want another SNES.

>> No.5020054

>>5019891
not retro but if you want to play gamecube games in progressive mode for less than $360 than the wii is a great deal. and hey, you can even play the "backups" off a usb drive too.

basically if you missed out on most of the GC library like i did the wii is too good of a deal to pass up.

I know some autist is going to tell me official component cables from nintendo for the GC are better but for price+content, nothing beats the wii if you know how to follow a guide to softmod.

>> No.5020062

>>5018361
>melee
Only 9 year olds care about that shite.

As for the rest - It's a good choice if you're broke. But a PC does all of that but with no input lag.

>> No.5020069

>>5020054
>I know some autist is going to tell me official component cables from nintendo for the GC are better but for price+content, nothing beats the wii if you know how to follow a guide to softmod.

How could they be better though if it's the same signal they output? It's backwards compatibility not emulation, someone might prove me wrong though that it's somehow different.

>> No.5020075

>>5020062
>Only 9 year olds care about that shite.

I bet that the amount you know about melee and its competitive scene would fit on a postage stamp.

>> No.5020170

>>5020054
>basically if you missed out on most of the GC library like i did the wii is too good of a deal to pass up.
I had a launch day game cube I bought used, basically for my young kid. The titles mostly sucked, but there were a few good ones. I bought a few games, and mostly ignored it.

>>5020069
>How could they be better though if it's the same signal they output?

They don't do the same output per se. The wii can do progressive scan 480p. So can the gamecube. The difference is that the gamecube 480p "Component" cable is a few hundred dollars, meanwhile the wii's "HD" cable is only a few buck.

>> No.5020179

>>5018457
Perfect Dark also has a playable remake on the Xbox. You don’t need a N64 with clunky controls and slow down anymore.

>> No.5020203

>>5020170
>They don't do the same output per se. The wii can do progressive scan 480p. So can the gamecube. The difference is that the gamecube 480p "Component" cable is a few hundred dollars, meanwhile the wii's "HD" cable is only a few buck.

The cable isn't what I would consider part of the output. The cable is what carries it.

You realize that the difference in how much they cost doesn't make a difference on screen, right? The only reason the gamecube one is so expensive as far as I know is because hardly any were produced, there is nothing special in it.

>> No.5020252

>>5020203
>there is nothing special in it.
There is something special in it, or how do you explain the absence of 3rd party GC Component cables? Don't you think they would produce them for $30-100 each chink-shit style?

Yes, the cable carries it, you are correct, but it is impossible to play GC games in 480p without a $300 dollar OEM cable. If you want something to play GC games on, a wii, with HD cables costs 1/6th of the cable alone for the GC....

>>5020203
>You realize that the difference in how much they cost doesn't make a difference on screen, right?
One cable provides interlaced output, and the other progressive. It looks different to me. Its an NTSC thing.

>> No.5020290

>>5020075
Who could care about Melee after they hit puberty? The entire games depth is about a postage stamp thick.

>> No.5020296

>>5020252
>There is something special in it, or how do you explain the absence of 3rd party GC Component cables? Don't you think they would produce them for $30-100 each chink-shit style?

Because they know hardly anyone is going to pay $30-$100 for a cable when you could get the exact same from a Wii.

>Yes, the cable carries it, you are correct, but it is impossible to play GC games in 480p without a $300 dollar OEM cable. If you want something to play GC games on, a wii, with HD cables costs 1/6th of the cable alone for the GC

No it's not, didn't MJR show a device that does that exact thing? It's perfectly possible and costs significantly less than $300.

I don't know why you're so obsessed with the price of it, you seem completely hung up by it. You should have listened to my earlier post. Often people pay for an original cable because they want to do it the original way. They pay thousands of dollars for old NES games that they would never dream of paying. Price doesn't give any indication at all of how necessary this is, so stop repeatedly bringing it up every time. What you should have done is listened to my original post properly instead of just repeating the same point again saying it costs so much.

>One cable provides interlaced output, and the other progressive. It looks different to me. Its an NTSC thing.

What the hell are you talking about? Both of those cables I was talking about (the Wii component and Gamecube component cables) output 480p. Obviously interlaced looks different to progressive, it doesn't matter whether it's PAL or "an NTSC thing".

>> No.5020358

>>5020296
>I don't know why you're so obsessed with the price of it, you seem completely hung up by it.
I am simply making a comparison/contrast between how simple it is to get 480p content from a wii vs the game cube from a financial standpoint. It is irrefutable that the wii is a better choice for gamecube games then a gamecube. If you want to spend lots of money, no one is stopping you, but you are correct the outcome would be the same.

>>5020296
>didn't MJR show a device that does that exact thing?
I don't know what a mjr is. Pic related is the internals of a GC component video cable. Run that through your mjr.

>>5020296
>Both of those cables I was talking about (the Wii component and Gamecube component cables) output 480p
You are either missing the point, are just arguing for the sake of swinging your dick around.

Here is my point, since you seem to dense to have gotten it before. I will try to use as small of words as possible.

>The wii is the superior choice for gamecube games in any and all instances.
>The wii is the superior choice to the "mini" systems in any and all instances.
>If you only have HDMI, you can use a Wii-U exactly the same as the wii

Sorry if I used too many words. This site only allows me to include one picture at a time to help you along with the story.

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5020361

>>5020358
Pic related.

>> No.5020475
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5020475

True best emulation device coming through.

>> No.5020501

>>5018361
The PSP does all of that too, in the palm of your hand.
>inb4 muh shitty SNES emulation
Most of the titles actually work great with the latest emulators.

>> No.5020572

>>5020475
I don't see how anyone can stand the shimmering on the screen. Wrong.

>> No.5020590

>>5018869
>>5018912
so, if I have an n64 rom file, I can play the file on an emulator on the Wii U and it looks relatively good?

pls be clear

>> No.5020609

>>5020572
What shimmering?

>> No.5021173

>>5018995
protip: use component

>> No.5021179

>>5019558
>And Pm.
?
>>5019558
>Only needs some PSX.
wiisxr?

>> No.5021181 [DELETED] 

>>5018361
My computer can do all those things, and it doesn't look like gay buttfucking Appleshit as well.

>> No.5021182

>>5020203
>The only reason the gamecube one is so expensive as far as I know is because hardly any were produced, there is nothing special in it.

>YCbCr-to-Component-converter
>nothing special
dis guy

>> No.5021194

>>5018361
It plays smash 64, paper mario and Rondo of fucking blood.
Underrated console, only facebook memers hate it.

The only thing that bothers me from this console while being in latin america is finding good controllers for it. Original gamecube joysticks are fucking expensive or the sticks are ruined so you've got to pay for new sticks and pay two ships. Everyone grew with the memestation so almost all of the market got things for ps2 or ps3.
If you want snes mini joysticks you've got to buy the whole thing and every third party controller is shit.

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>>5021181
>My computer can do all those things, and it doesn't look like gay buttfucking Appleshit as well.
My wii is the size of 1/3rd of your power supply, and makes nearly no noise whatsoever. Even a mid-sized ATX case takes up the space of 15-20 Wii. It also doesn't have 3-4 80mm fans, dozens of LED lights and a 750w PSU. My wii takes up about the same space as my gpu.


>>5021181
>doesn't look like gay buttfucking Appleshit
Its ok, as I said the Wii is pretty small, so if you are homophobic, you can hide it behind a bookshelf or even the TV, and none of your straight friends will know you have it. A black wii pretty much is invisible sitting behind a tv.
>>5021182
>dis guy
I noticed that his source of info was mjr. I had to look up what mjr is. When I figured it out, I knew that summer is almost over, and kids will be back in school soon. He hasn't responded to my photo of the chip inside of the GC component video. I was alive when Atarii came out, and had one. I bought a game cube when they were the thing, and sold it when I got a wii. I am speaking from experience. He is citing mjr. MJR is a loser.

>>5021194
>Underrated console, only facebook memers hate it.
I found that most people who want to talk shit on the wii, seem to compare its cheap used price to its quality, which is simply not true.

I said it before, but the wii is not perfect at anything, but is exceptional at everything.

>> No.5021251

>>5021173
No

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5021254

Quake on a console.. Get the fuck outta here with that noise.

>> No.5021258

>>5021251
then enjoy the red screen or whatever

>> No.5021319

>>5020358
>are just arguing for the sake of swinging your dick around.

ok dude, I tried to explain things to you just forget it, ridiculous. What I get for trying to be nice. We are not in a equal discussion where I say things and then you'd write stuff back here, the point of me writing that was to help you know/understand something about it. It's not where you'd counter my points and throw in some insults like the worst of /v/ coming here

>> No.5021327

My only gripe is that it can't handle Tetris Attack at an acceptable speed (same with a number of GBA games). Other than that its been a fantastic machine.

>> No.5021328 [DELETED] 

>>5020358
man, I know I said discussion over but I was just idly reading over your post (since I know nothing good is in it is the reason I didn't read it first) and you're actually acting like you're claiming something completely different now as if you had never claimed that the gamecube with cable was better quality. I highly suggest you stop being a joke in life, nobody is out to get you if you make a mistake especially on an anonymous board.

>> No.5021401

>>5021327
Tried mgba emulator? It fixes the slowdown in games like metroid or castlevania.

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5021689

>>5021319
>We are not in a equal discussion
I am aware of that, and I tried to be civil, but you seemed to want to act like cost is some sort of fixation of mine. Not at all. You didn't seem to grasp that the wii is superior to the gamecube & mini systems in every way, including cost, you were the one fixated on cost. I am glad you understand now, and will cherish this conversation forever.

We were specifically talking about the outlandish costs of gamecube component cables, and why that is (not an mjr answer, but the real answer). Glad I could show you the exact reason in a picture. That cable is the ONLY way to get 480p output without modifying the system, which has limited results. To date Nintendo is the only maker of that cable. There has been no 3rd party variants. You could mod your system.....MJR actually reviewed the HDMI mod, and how it fried his gamecube.

Feel free to continue to debate the merits of the mini systems vs the wii. I will be more then happy to show how the wii can accomplish the same things, and more.

>> No.5021803

>>5018361
How hard is it to hack? My gfs old wii has been in storage for like 8 years and she won't care if I shrek it

>> No.5021842

>>5021803
>How hard is it to hack?
It is somewhat tedious, but not hard. It requires following quite a few basic, but odd steps in a very particular order. If you can do origami, you could do this. I am a construction worker, and can barely use 4chan...so gauge your ability from there. Going to a place like GBATemp dot com has a great forum of consolidated knowledge and there are plenty of start to finish steps. It is imperative that you get the most recent instructions from a consolidated place with the latest revisions or discussion of them. USBloader gave me issues, but only because I got an old version.

Also, I don't think it matters, but all recent versions of the base wii are 4.3u ? (I could be wrong). Older versions may have been easier to hack, but all are possible. easily with the letterbomb exploit to give it homebrew. It is brutally simple, and opens up the SD card for storage & apps. I have read of people using 128gb sd cards, and you can right from there run ANY nes system from Gamecube down to nes from SD. Nintendont gave me some issues also, but again I did not have the latest version. I modded my wii years ago, and forgot how to do it, and just bought another one through flea-bay. When it gets to me, its going to get the same treatment.

Older units may also play actual dvds. It is hit or miss with that feature based on actual hardware. There is no way to software fix that.

This thread comes up quite often, because it does make a great dedicated emulation machine. The world is polluted with them....

>> No.5021847

>>5021803
Are you capable of browsing through My Computer and clicking on files?

>> No.5021874

>>5021803
>>5021842
Letterbomb is fucking easy

>> No.5021954

>>5018815
Also the game's no fun

>> No.5021982

>>5021689
I have no idea what in the holy shit you are talking.

You started by saying this:

>>They don't do the same output per se. The wii can do progressive scan 480p. So can the gamecube. The difference is that the gamecube 480p "Component" cable is a few hundred dollars, meanwhile the wii's "HD" cable is only a few buck.

Now this is very unclear what you're trying to say here so I politely asked for confirmation and added a few bits of information. Then you said THIS, confirming what I thought:

>Yes, the cable carries it, you are correct, but it is impossible to play GC games in 480p without a $300 dollar OEM cable.

If you didn't mean to say this and you actually meant to add the clause "except on a Wii" or something that would mean the same as that then yeah, you are right. However it was both 1) a clear mis-speak and mistake in what you were saying which you refused to clarify and 2) you continued to be as incredibly unclear in what you were saying and decided instead to go on tirades of infantile insults. You could easily have told me you actually meant to say something else or maybe that you did in fact make a mistake initially which is quite likely.

You're still refusing to just speak clearly, that's YOUR fault ok? Your fault. I tried to be friendly and informative. Please fuck off and let me get on with my life utter spastic.

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>>5021982
>You're still refusing to just speak clearly,
I laid it out plain and simple the last time you pretended you were illiterate.
>>5020358
I see no way to make it any more clear to you.

>>5021982
>If you didn't mean to say this and you actually meant to add the clause "except on a Wii"
I will link to one previous instance (there were a few):


>>5020358
>I am simply making a comparison/contrast between how simple it is to get 480p content from a wii vs the game cube from a financial standpoint. It is irrefutable that the wii is a better choice for gamecube games then a gamecube. If you want to spend lots of money, no one is stopping you, but you are correct the outcome would be the same


I will reiterate to you, and others my angle. It pretty much is a re-post from what I said earlier. If this is too complex for you to understand, I will just ignore you. Plain and simple.

>Wii is superior to Gamecube.
>Wii is superior to Mini systems
>If you don't have Component, use a WiiU w/hdmi

>> No.5022050

>>5018959
fuck! I hate when retards try to assume they know everything. fucking dumbass

>> No.5022234

>>5019546
this post didnt age well

>> No.5022540

>>5020590
Wii64 can run some games rather well, but you can also inject N64 games and run them as Virtual Console games. Some games work really well, others don't. I myself was able to play both Castlevanias perfectly on a WiiU.

>> No.5022913

>>5021803
google "completesg"

>> No.5023204

Has anyone noticed slowdown with Gen Plus or whatever the Genesis emulator is called? Devilish ran slow for me last night and I tried the real deal side by side to confirm. I had another modded Wii a couple years ago and never noticed any slowdown but this was quite clear.

>> No.5023209

>>5019546
>No online scene
Netplay
>Tournaments always won by same people
Last Supermajor tournament was just won over last years #1 player by a relatively new emerging player

I mean I don't go to tournaments or play Melee that much anymore. I agree a lot of the fanbase is cringe, but none of these points make sense even less so now

>> No.5023213

>>5018985
Yes because my PC monitor has a limited/full RGB switch.

>> No.5023219

>>5023204
Same and I've also been wondering if it's my 10 year old Wii or the emulator. I was playing Beyond Oasis last night and it has slowdown like hell in many places but I'm not certain if that's the same on real hardware or not as BO is kinda expensive. I also remember getting some stutter in Snatcher which is definitely not present on a real Sega-CD.

>> No.5023223

>>5020501
SNES emulation works on a PSP as well as ZSNES works on a PC. Which is to say it only works if you're blind, deaf or have never used a real SNES in your life.

>> No.5023579

>>5023204
>>5023219

Genesis Plus GX has always performed extremely well for me, even on CD games. Are you sure you're not on an old version?

>> No.5023598

>>5023579

I’ll have to check when I get home. It really disheartened me because I’ll be moving soon and space will probably be an issue, so as much as I love my real shit, a Wii is a little easier on space than a shelving unit full of old consoles

>> No.5023618

>>5023579
>Genesis Plus GX has always performed extremely well for me, even on CD games. Are you sure you're not on an old version?
I have had nothing but praise for Genesis Plus GX...currently using version 1.7.4. Plays Sega CD as well as other games. No issues.

>>5023598
>Wii is a little easier on space than a shelving unit full of old consoles
Wii is not perfect, but for casual play, it replaced my nes, snes, genesis and gamecube.

>> No.5023629 [DELETED] 

Damn i am so fucking glad that mods will allow discussion of the wii just because it can play retro games!!

>> No.5023694

>>5023618

It really is. Casual play is about all I have time for so it’s more appealing by the day honestly. I’ve fought a hard battle against real hardware the last few years and can never make up my mind.

>> No.5023727

The Wii is NOT RETRO

>> No.5023736

>>5023629
they're part of the problem why this board has gone down the toilet. they can't even enforce their own rules. this is not retro, even if it can play retro games.

>> No.5023751

>>5023727
>>5023736

oh summerfags /facepalm ffs I already have a headache. The Wii cannot be talked about in terms of games, only for playing old games. It doesn't matter what other games the Wii can play so long as it can play retro games. By your logic the NES Classic and SNES Classic shouldn't be allowed to be discussed either - because the systems they are using are modern. However they can be discussed only in terms of how they can play retro games. The reason this board has gone down the toilet is nincompoops like you with all your meme arguments and arguments about being "retro" or "not retro". I wouldn't mind if the definition was vague but it's clear as daylight, and emulation on the Wii is as retro as emulation on a modern PC tards.

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>>5023736

>this is not retro, even if it can play retro games.

By that logic discussion of emulation on non-retro PCs should be banned too. Hope you fuckers are ready to talk about Genecyst, Virtual Game Station and Mupen whenever it comes up.

>> No.5023765 [DELETED] 

>>5023751
>>5023757
We might as well start talking about the xbox one and the ps4 because they also play retro games. Hey did you hear the new iphone can emulate GB games too? That's crazy!

>> No.5023781

>>5023765
Go make a thread then.

>> No.5023890

>>5023765
There is zero problem talking about those playing retro games. People make threads about emulation on the raspberry pi and many different handheld devices all the time. However consoles like the xbox one and PS4 are several times more expensive, hacking them is a lot harder, the emulators for fourth gen and earlier aren't as good because they're not in development as long and they don't have the committed community the Wii has. They also can't output natively in component. Enjoy knowing the most basic points of console emulation.

>> No.5024001

>>5021954
no, that's brawl

>> No.5024231 [DELETED] 

>>5023765
/vr/ started down that down that dark path the first time a mod didn't ban an emubaby. Forever will it dominate our destiny. Today janitards are the underage shitposter who start these threads.
I come here to help the few I can and laugh at the many that can't be helped. You might try approaching nu-/v/ that way.

>> No.5024232

>>5023765
I hear a lot of good stuff about the PS handhelds...someone said something about them outputting native 240p. I am surprised none of the sony fans have talked more about it. I know nothing about it, but am in the market for a smaller PS. If you know of good console + mod to play retro, you certainly should spread the word so people know about it. If you would like to banter more about how the Wii will be better than your meme choice, I will gladly continue going back and forth. I enjoy debate.

>> No.5024273

>>5024231
Underage spotted.

>> No.5024406

>>5018361
>>plays quake
Kill yourself.

>> No.5024408

>>5018458
Fucking edgelord. Hey guess what? Any game released before 1989 sucks ass.

>> No.5024410

>>5024408
I agree
Terrible chiptune music
bland graphics
No save points

Before the genesis, Turbograx, and game boy was released in ‘89 games were terrible.

>> No.5024415

>>5024410
Nah NES games were good too

>> No.5024428

>>5024408
>>5024410
Please leave this place at once.

>> No.5024606

>>5024273
>butthurt OP projecting

>> No.5024697

>>5020590
don't listen to that moron. Generic N64 emulation on Wii/Wii U is a joke. Unless it's on Virtual Console, just play it on a superior PC emulator

>> No.5024701

>>5018451
get off this board

>> No.5024750

If anyone could could rough guess, about how much inaccuracy is there between real hardware and Wii emulation with the best emulators? I’m mainly concerned about speed. The Genesis and SNES particularly.

>> No.5024754

The Wii will never be /myconsole/. One of the worst consoles ever made.

>> No.5024780

>>5024606
>responding to bait in my own bait post
OK retard

>> No.5024815

>>5018886
I'm more bothered by their complete lack of personal hygiene, generally vile behavior, being completely unable to present themselves like functioning adults, and that one guy who repeatedly threatened to run people over with his car, and upon finally trying to do that, it coming out that he actually has a long history of attempted vehicular homicide.

That the scene is elitist and built on retarded bullshit rules to try to make an inherently unbalanced game more balanced, is the least of its problems. They're essentially subhuman, and if they ever try to set foot at another FGC tournament they should just be teargassed and beat with nightsticks.

>> No.5024816

>>5018937
Take a shower, and then put on new clothes afterwards, it doesn't work if you put on the same filthy rags again.

>> No.5024820

>>5021254
Worked on the Saturn.

>> No.5024829

>>5024231
You sound like you weren't bullied enough in school.

>> No.5024930

Honestly with current prices on older games the Wii and its 240p emulation capability is a godsend. Want a physical copy of something you don’t alresdy have? Enjoy paying three times what the game is worth. Want a flash cart? Get ready to pay some foreigner $200

>> No.5025023

>>5024697
>Generic N64 emulation on Wii/Wii U is a joke
>>5024930
>Want a flash cart? Get ready to pay some foreigner $200
I keep a modded wii, modded Xbox, a uniROM'd PSX and an everdrive for the N64. I never had much luck with the N64 emulation on Wii. Some games worked, but most did not work well. The VC is great for most of the 1st party essentials....Most people would be happy with this amount of N64, and it is a huge part of the quality titles it had. The only 2 "mods" I paid for was the Everdrive and the Gameshark for the PSX. The rest was put together with leftover computer bullshit laying around the house.

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5025083

>>5018364
>>5018813
MELEE
IS
NOT
RETRO

>> No.5025089

>>5018361
can it play n64?

>> No.5025341

>>5025089

Sort of

>> No.5025673

>>5025089
A portion of the library (those released on the Virtual Console, and those that work properly when injected into the .wad file for another Virtual Console release) run perfectly. Other than that it's terrible homebrew emulators are hopeless here. But for what it's worth that portion of the library runs perfectly.

>> No.5025690

>>5025083
It's played on a CRT. It's retro.

>> No.5025706

>>5019546
vague and inaccurate shitposting shouldn't be used as evidence

IMO the reason why melee sucks is the actual people who go to tournaments, but I don't know a single decent person who goes to any fighting game tournament(or fps for that matter). All the drama aside the game is good enough and the fans seem to make netplay work, back when I was still playing Project M was masterace before it got judas-ed by nintendo.

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>>5025690

>> No.5025756 [DELETED] 

>>5024232
>none of the sony fans have talked more about it
they all died waiting for new games

>> No.5025759

>>5025734
Looks exactly like the average Melee player

>> No.5025774

I wanted to try 480p gamecube games so I finally bought a wii. Played like 2 hrs of NSMB and then haven't touched it at all since.

also the the people arguing GC component vs Wii component, the only reason to buy the GC cable is to play gameboy player, but even that is questionable. The default disc has horrible lag, might as well emulate on the wii.

>> No.5025834

>>5025756
Sony handhelds and their game lineup are absolute GOATOAT if you speak Japanese. Otherwise what you said is true.

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>>5025774

>"Wanted to try 480p gamecube games"
>So I played a shitty Wii game for two hours and threw it in the closet

/vr/ is like some kind of autism hell, I'm half-convinced most of you don't even play vidya and just want the option to.

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>>5025834
>Sony handhelds and their game lineup are absolute GOATOAT if you speak Japanese. Otherwise what you said is true.
I was thinking about getting one of the PSP Gos, and modding it (if possible) just to use as a solid-state PSX player. Would it run PS2 games? I know jack squat about it other then the PSP Go is small, hooks up to a SD tv and has support for wireless PS controllers.

>>5026027
>I'm half-convinced most of you don't even play vidya and just want the option to.
I agree with you, and am one of the ones that is playing something different always.

pic related earlier tonight.>>5025774
>but even that is questionable
It could be emulated just the same with the same outcome. Gamecube is a neat system, but is 100% outplayed in every way. Very similar to what happened to the PSX. The PS2 pretty much replaced it in most ways.

>> No.5026134

>>5026060
No, it'd never run PS2, it's nowhere near powerful enough for that, but I played through all of MGS on my PSP 2000 and had no issues. It also emulates Neo-Geo at near full speed, and can handle lots of other 16-bit and lower consoles, plus a couple 32-bit ones. Modding the PSP is incredibly easy.
A modded vita would be more powerful, but they're notoriously difficult to hack (you need to get one with a low enough firmware, and then jump through several hoops to get it modded, and then hope it doesn't brick) -- I got one recently and did it, but managing emulators and games for it is more of a hassle than seems worth my time so I've just kept playing Persona 4 Golden on it instead of retro games. Plus, the modding community for the PSP is much more fleshed-out active than the one for the Vita.
Keep in mind, though, that you can't play PSX games that require the dualshock controller on it.

>> No.5026162

>>5018892
>fox only
and falco, marth, peach, puff and some other characters.

>> No.5026165

>>5020475
I'm sad that PSX emulation never got finished. It would be perfect otherwise :/
Have a switch now though and PSX emulation is almost where it needs to be

>> No.5026241

>>5026134
>PSX games that require the dualshock controller on it.
Even on a PSP go using a dualshock controller?

>> No.5026273

>>5018361
truth you re right op

>> No.5026296

how is n64 emulation on wii?bought a used one yesterday.

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>>5026296
don't bother with anything other than virtual console titles for the N64. On another note, I usually prefer playing virtual console releases, including unofficial injected games. The emulator VC uses seems to be coded well to reduce inout lag as much as possible. Using homebrew emulators on the wii is a guarantee for more input lag. It's just too bad some consoles like the NES and turbografx have slightly darker colors than on original hardware.

>> No.5026621

>>5026241
I actually didn't know you could do that, looks like it needs a PS3 but apparently that's an option. But yeah the PSP's support for running PSX games is really impressive. I was only ever unable to run two games.

>> No.5027625

>>5018457
They're both unplayable now in their original state. I played half way through one level of Goldeneye when I got my first N64 a year ago and immediately put it back on the shelf and later sold it. If you want to have any resemblance of a good time with those games, there's a remaster of Perfect Dark on Xbox Live, and you can find a patch somewhere for Goldeneye on PC to have the graphics upscaled so everything isn't just some blurry mess and have keyboard and mouse controls. I also like that one Goldeneye 007 remake on the Wii but I think everyone else hated that one for some reason.

>> No.5027628

>>5027625
>they're both unplayable
damn what a plebe
did u try 2.2 controls?

>> No.5027642 [DELETED] 

>>5027628
I know right, the fact that these people exist baka. This one seems way too far gone, will never see any sense. Untalkable to.

>> No.5027647

>>5027628
I know right, the fact that these people exist sm.h. This one seems way too far gone, will never see any sense. Untalkable to.

>> No.5027968

>>5026296
>how is n64 emulation on wii?
In my experience Terrible. The best advice:
>>5026385
>don't bother with anything other than virtual console titles for the N64
The VC is a batch of 1st party games, and they did something to them to make them slightly more crisp.

Best bet with N64 is to use the physical system.

>>5026621
>PSP's support for running PSX games is really impressive
Exactly what I wanted to hear. I may need to get one & mod it to play ISOs.

>> No.5027982

>>5027968
>mod it to play ISOs.
You can't play ISOs on it, you need to use a program on your computer to create an EBOOT file which your PSP can run. You can also download premade ones, but those could be hard to find now that EmuParadise is gone, since they had a lot of them available. It's not hard, anyway, it should take you a minute or two per game.

>> No.5028129

>>5027625
>but I think everyone else hated that one for some reason.
Because they made it a fucking COD clone where you can only carry three weapons at a time.

>> No.5028597

>>5023213
So your TV has a built-in eyecancer feature? Nice.

>> No.5028602

>>5025774
>not using gcvideo
>not using game boy interface
wew.

>> No.5028983

>>5018523
I just hacked my wii. What should I put on it? My GF wants N64 games but I've told her like 5 times already that they probably won't run well

>> No.5028991

>>5028983
You can pirate the VC N64 games.

>> No.5029046

>>5028991
Thanks. She wants to play pokemon stadium but that's not on the virtual console, and none of the n64 games I had as a kid are either (besides pokemon snap)

>> No.5029090

>>5029046
Just get a N64 and ED64 then.

>> No.5029379

>>5028983
Download "Not64". It's an offshoot of the wii64 emulator that supports 240p and has better compatibility. Games in green are pretty playable https://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/Wii64_Compatibility_List

>> No.5029427

>>5029046
>She
Any pictures of her penis?

>> No.5029443

>>5029427
/v/ not doing it for you today?

>> No.5029576

>>5029046
You can inject the Pokemon Stadium rom into another virtual console's .wad file, how many times do I have to say it in this thread alone? Pull yourself together anon.

>> No.5029681

I like playing fan translations of SNES rpgs and getting comfy on my bed. Its very kewl if I do say so.

>> No.5029824

>>5018361
>melee
>”our” console
gtfo zoomer

>> No.5030170

>>5027968
>Best bet with N64 is to use the physical system.
Obviously original hardware is also best but they hadn't asked what's the best way to play n64 games in general , they asked how n64 emulation is on the wii specifically, and using VC is actually pretty decent,

>> No.5030325

>>5021179
>Pm

Short for "Project M", a Super Smash Bros. Brawl mod that re-imagines the game as if it were made closer in line with Melee.

>> No.5030363

>>5030325
thanks

>> No.5031730

>>5020252
the OEM gamecube cable actually has a chip in it. no one seems to be able to reverse engineer it. believe me the chinks would be on it in a minute if they could. I can't find a schematic or hint of what it is online. The gamecube did not output 480p native. there is some proprietary nintendo shit in the cable. if there was some interest in it, reproductions could show up. The only reason i would dish out the money for the cable is it is the best way to play the gameboy player which is the only official way to play gba and gbc games on a television. if you couple that with SWISS, it's the clearest way to play GBC/GBA games on a television without emulation if you want to get your money's worth out of your pvmeme/trinicon.

>> No.5031746

>>5018361
Donkey Konga and DK Jungle Beat kick ass

>> No.5031932

>>5018815
Cancerous fanbase =/= bad product

>> No.5031943

>>5021803
wii.guide

>> No.5032076

>>5030170
>they asked how n64 emulation is on the wii specifically
I addressed it directly in the post you are quoting.
>>5027968
>In my experience Terrible

I will say it again, but only directly to you so you don't feel left out.

Anon, N64 emulation on the wii is a steaming pile of shit. If you want to enjoy N64 games, get a N64 & an everdrive.

>>5031730
>the OEM gamecube cable actually has a chip in it. no one seems to be able to reverse engineer it. believe me the chinks would be on it in a minute if they could.

I am very well aware. I don't know if you were the person I was "debating" earlier, but I am certainly aware of the chip in the cable, and provided a photo of one earlier.

>>5031730
>official way to play gba and gbc games on a television.
This is the ONLY reason to own a game cube (and is a weak argument at this juncture)....because one would like to enjoy their physical collection of games on a supported system. However, one could argue that a good reason to own a Wii is that it unofficially supports the same library through a 3rd party app. IF the game boy games run as well as the SNES/NES, I can't see any fault with it. I don't play gb games, so I don't know.

>> No.5032116

>>5018869
>pajeet64

>> No.5032554

>>5031730
>no one seems to be able to reverse engineer it.

>what is gcvideo

>> No.5032601
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5032601

Recent pickups? This one came sealed for 5$
Wii games are ripe for the picking right now since the "core gaming community" hates the Wii
>It's a great emu box cause muh CRT
Fuck that use it for Wii and GameCube

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>>5032601
This thing is fun af too

>> No.5032652

>>5021982
>>5022034
HOLY SHIT JUST FUCK ALREADY!

>> No.5033725

>>5032601
>Fuck that use it for Wii and GameCube
I actually got one for that and N64 VC, even if it didn't emulate older games the best way like it does, everyone sells them for cheap, very easy to get an early model in good condition and the Wii mote is unironically good, at least for games that were well optimized for it like the one you posted and the Metroid collection.

>> No.5033790

>>5018451
This. Saturn and Dreamcast games are better. We backed the wrong horse fellas.

>> No.5033802

>>5033790
Why play arcade ports when we have MAME now?

>> No.5034579

>>5033802
Some arcade ports are better than the originals. Third Strike is better on the Dreamcast, for instance (much higher sound quality).

>> No.5034747

Pal fag here.
Is it posible to run mega cd ntsc games on an Pal wii?
Or has the wii be complete in an ntsc Setting.

>> No.5034759

>>5034747
Everything will be fine if you stick to homebrew emulators.

>> No.5034876

>>5034759
Good to know. Thanks

>> No.5035057

>>5032652
>HOLY SHIT JUST FUCK ALREADY!
I too get tired of people that pilpul and complain that they cannot understand what I am saying. It is poor form on their part, seeing how I typed it out in small words with bulletpoints.

This is just someone who cannot present a good angle for their discussion. I am used to this sort of stuff, but it usually only pertains to twitter. Odd that it would permeate here.

>>5032554
>what is gcvideo
A separate board that bypasses the digital out & provides its own video output. It requires physical modification of the hardware, and is not "reverse engineered" at all. Reverse engineered would be a 3rd party solution for a compatible component video output on supported models. No drilling holes in the back, no desoldering/soldering. An oem compatable Gamecube component video has never been recreated. This is why they turned to pulling signals directly from the board and processing it out elsewhere. They just bypassed the problem, and Yes, it works (it is not reverse engineering). Did you ever see the video where Metal Jesus Reviewed the HDMI out?

>> No.5035067

>>5018361
If you get the right model it will also play GameCube games also, with the GameCube controllers.

>> No.5036794

>>5035057
>An oem compatable Gamecube component video has never been recreated.

>what is gcvideo x2 (whenever that will be released, LOLBAC)