/vr/ - Retro Games

Speaking of long waits for retrobit products. This was supposed to start shipping today. Did anyone get any shipping notices yet?

>>5015946
I have the PC controller this is based off of, if this is anything like that the buttons are shit, the triggers are shit, and the control stick has horrible deadzone.

>>5016050
Yep, it's garbage.

>>5015946
Why are we still getting threads about some shitty third party controller? There wasn't any hype every time Mad Catz released something.

>>5015946
Did you see the sensitivity on the analog stick? It was WAY the fuck off, lmfao. Like not even CLOSE.

It always looked like cheap shit.

>>5015946
You big leagueing me bro?

>>5015946
it's bad? thats really too bad. they could have made a fortune considering how awful the OG n64 controller's analog stick was (it wears out like a faggot)

but metaljesus said it was great! I believe him and not a bunch of vr nobodies.
>>5016534
shake my hand.

>>5016534
I picked one of these up at a garage sale a few years ago. I still can't get over how shitty the angle is on the left side of the controller. Am I supposed to hold this thing diagonally, or am I supposed to give myself carpal tunnel?

>>5015946
I STILL haven't fucking gotten mine yet. Was I scammed or something?

>>5016939
Never trust a man that buys premodded consoles.

>>5017140
>Was I scammed or something?
Yes, even if it does turn up.

>>5017148
I just checked and apparently it's supposed to arrive today.

>>5016534
>SuperPad 64 Plus

I found one of those at a CompUSA waaaay back in the day, but it's got the old PC-style 15 pin D-sub joystick connector on the end of the cable. Not really sure why somebody was selling a N64 emulation gamepad back in the Windows 98 era. Like, I think 1964 existed at that point, but just BARELY.

>>5016074
Has someone not sent this to the designers? How hard can it be to fix this?

>>5016074
I wouldn't say garbage, but something Hori Mini Pad tier. It's pretty good for a replacement and for play Mario Party.

But I'd still go with the Kitsch-Bent stuff.

>>5015946
>A and B aren't even aligned with the C buttons

>>5016927
>they could have made a fortune considering how awful the OG n64 controller's analog stick was (it wears out like a faggot)
I brought one of those Chinese rebuilds for about 10 bucks and they fixed that. Handles much better.

>>5017324
chinese rebuilds?

>>5017324
>>5017353
Yeah, the awful chinese gamecube style replacement sticks that only a retard would think controls well.

>5,555 backers pledged $166,347 to help bring this project to life.

Yet another Kickstarter scam the retro community has fallen for.

The Chinese clone types are complete jokes and shouldn't be allowed to be sold like that.

>>5016013
Did Ronnie James Dio approve it from beyond the grave?
If so then I'll buy it.

>>5015946
I thought it was okay and that's all I was really looking for, but I never expected something perfect, great, or good. I think a lot of people got hyped up expecting too much.

so, is kitsch-bent the best option? I tried those gamecube style analog and they handle like ass.

>>5017379
kek

>>5015946
Is this the controller where the left bumper interferes with the joystick's movements?

>>5017482

Yeah, replacement parts for the original controller are still the best. Ideally you'd want to replace the gears, the bowl, and the stick.

You could also repair the old parts like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETQhlSXIsR0

>>5017425
Yes. Absolutely. Trust me.

>>5017482
Lube with silicone spray and open the gears slot of the bowl a lirtle bit so the gears will run fast. Its a 9/10. The Y axis isnt perfect yet, thats why its not a 10/10.

>>5017726
I believe it is, yes.

>>5016095
Poorfags try to save money by getting 3rd party controller, realize it's trash like every other 3rd party controller they've ever bought, want to whine about their buyers remorse.

>>5019803
It's not even saving you money. As recently as last March I found an N64 controller with a completely tight, functioning stick for $25.

>>5016939
It's really hard for me to take that guy's opinions seriously. I was watching his review of this controller and when he gets to testing Mischief Makers he actually says, "This game's controls are weird ... it doesn't use the analog stick like you would expect in a 2D platformer." Just... what the fuck? Who would expect or want to use an analog stick in a 2D platformer? That's what d-pads are fucking made for.

>>5020913
>Who would expect or want to use an analog stick in a 2D platformer?
Someone born after 1995.

>>5020913
Analog sticks work fine with 2d platformers because the inputs are so simple that an analog stick covers everything they need, unlike d-pads with 3d platformers.

>>5020913
Maybe this is why you hear baffling nonsense like "Donkey Kong Country 2 is hard". These kids are trying to play it with an analog stick.

>>5020931
Why would an analog stick make a 2d platformer more difficult? That logic is troglodyte tier.

>>5020932
More movement is needed for the same input with a stick.

>>5016013
How do you even get this approved for sale? Also seems like a lame game to get a release here.

>>5017180
Probably just trying to make money off of the mold already existing. Remember that even in the late 90s there was still the belief that you should play with a controller on PC if you're able to, of course keyboard+mouse hadn't really caught on like it had by the time of stuff like Q3 and Starcraft.

>>5020937
Laughable nonsense. You can literally move the joystick 1mm into the joystick's range and achieve a movement input. That's way tighter than a dpad where inputs are usually at minimum 1cm apart.

I'm only surprised that people shilled this pad. Never trust a 3rd party controller, especially from a no-name, especially from kickstarter, and especially for 20USD in the 2010s.

>>5020941
Then less rigidity means its easier to accidently input the wrong direction, often resulting in killing yourself.

>>5020946
Only if you have a neurological disorder, which would make sense from someone who thinks 2d gameplay is better.

>>5020942
That's what I said when people first posted this junk. The only third party controller I've ever used that I consider even functional is by Hori, and even then its not as good as the real thing.

>>5020946
>me can't move joystick with subtle precision
>me need BIG button or it no fair!!

I like it. Could definitely have used some more work, but it's more accurate than any other third party N64 controller that isn't absurdly priced, and I got it for only $25.

Man what a turnaround opinion has taken on this thing. When it first came out there was a clear majority of praise. Now there seems to be few kind words about it.

>>5020958
It's not absolute perfection, so it's clearly shit.

>>5020958
That's because idiots have the mistaken impression that because the N64 controller looks weird, it isn't good/doesn't work and needs something like this.

>>5015946
Dumb question: are there any adapters that let you hook up modern controllers to a real N64? I want to use my Xbox One but I heard N64 emulation is ass.

>>5020960
The issue isn't with how it looks, the issue is with how it's built. The stick is the problem, and there are fixes, but they all involve doing things that most casual players wouldn't want to do in order to fix it.

Why take the controller apart and replace individual parts when I can get a new controller that's also built like a newer controller would be?

>>5020970
The N64 stick is fine, though. It's one of the most functional and precise joysticks to exist on a console. Its only flaw is that it wears down faster than other controllers.

>>5020939
>How do you even get this approved for sale?
By asking Irem, who said yes.

>>5020975
>Its only flaw is that it wears down faster than other controllers.
And that's the problem I was talking about, dingus.

>>5020978
It won't wear down that much faster if you use some silicone grease, though. You'll easily get 1000 hours of gameplay out of it before it needs to be replaced, and most people won't come anywhere near that.

>>5020994
Also, provided you don't fucking destroy it with mario party mini games or bowser throws. They're the exception to the rule.

>>5020970
The lack of stick lubrication is a flaw, but a third party controller isn't going to fix that, because, as third party controllers will, it will have an inferior stick anyway.

>>5020994
>>5020995
Yeah this would be great advice if it were still 1999 and we could get brand new N64 controllers without spending +$100.

>>5020996
I'd rather have one of these brawler controllers than a worn down N64 controller, if I'm being honest. I'd rather a Hori mini or a repaired one over either of the first two options, but a Brawler is definitely third.

>>5017801
What a fucking bore.
MLiG have truly spoiled us with their exceptional presentation and editing

You can buy replacement gears and holder for cents off of kitsch-bent.com

>>5015946
I knew it was shit the moment their drones started shilling

>>5016013
YOUVE BEEN DOWN TO LONG IN THE MIDNIGHT SEA

>>5016013
Me again. I just now got a shipping confirmation. Happy to know it's finally coming after a good 4 months of delays.

>>5016074
As far as third party N64 pads go, that's actually not bad. Though that's more to do with how awful the rest are rather than how good Retrobit's version is.

>>5023326
My issue with the whole thing is that they acted like it was a passion project but didn't actually take the time to work with anyone who plays N64 games extensively and understands how the original joystick works.

It was obviously a quick cash grab under the pretense of creating some kind of ultimate N64 pad.

>>5023336
That's why I like the Steelstick guy. He works closely with smash players and speedrunners, aka. the true autists who understand the controllers better than anyone.

>>5020962
because nobody has made one, but pic related exits, although its expensive(even just one) and lacks rumble/memory card support. And its not ideal for all games

>>5023457
Raphnet are 30 bucks, which is not that bad at all.

>>5023457
Honestly that's not a great solution either, you can get a NEW N64 controller for cheaper than a good condition Gamecube controller thanks to Smashfags, or at least you will be until December when new ones get released.

>>5023457
>lacks rumble/memory card support
get that useless shit outta here