/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4988456
I have mega turrican, I’m not very good at it but I’m having fun

European copy of Metroid. Quite good if you ask me with memorable soundtrack. I played recently Super Turrican on my modded PSP and it stll hołd pretty well.

>>4988456
1st one is okay, 2nd and 3rd games are fantastic

play the amiga versions of 1 and 2, play Mega (3) on genesis

Rendering Ranger has great shooter levels but the actual Turrican levels are meh

>>4988456
Turrican 1 and 2 on commodore systems:
Pros - good music (on amiga) and graphics.
Cons - Shit level design, shit controls, leaps of faith usually landing on spikes or an enemy that saps your energy in half a second, no player feedback or recovery time when you take damage, non existent difficulty ramping/pacing, technical bugs.
The third one is ok on Megadrive and the SNES ones are ok.

>>4988456
Eurotrash

chris huelsbeck is a master
i've played only Super Turrican 1 on SNES and Mega Turrican on Mega Drive
tfw the consistency is lost here in Burgerland

>>4988792
should've clarified i meant it was called MEGA Turrican on the Genesis, whereas in Europe it's MEGA Turrican on the MEGA Drive

Turrican has that early-era euro "random weird shit" aesthetic. Not necessarily a bad thing, but odd. Gameplay isn't so hot to me though.

All I can really think of Turrican is that I'm not nostalgic for it or want to play more.

HELLO AND WELCOME TO TURRICAN
BE MY GUEST
ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER TRY
BUT REMEMBER:
SHOOT
OR
DIE!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Turrican is awesome. I love mega turrican for the plasma rope

>>4988456
>/vr opinion about Turrican series ?
good but euro design, my fave is super turrican 2 which is a bit more linear and absolutely awesome looking and sounding.

1 was a case of "everything and the kitchensink" design and it felt like features got thrown in with no rhyme or reason either because Manfred Trenz just could or because other games they were "inspired by" had them like mines and grenades that you never used, the three use limit on the wheel or the time limit that doesn't really fit with the rest of the game.

2 was a technical marvel on the C64 and pushed the system to its absolute limits (that third shmup stage, Jesus Christ) but at the cost of being incredibly glitchy.
It also becomes apparent by now that the time limit stands in extreme contrast to the levels which are designed around exploration instead of speedrunning and I reccommend everyone to deactivate that shit through a trainer.

Super Turrican on SNES was solid with nothing really terrible about it (except the sudden ending) but also nothing really outstanding outside of the fact that they somehow managed to cram this thing into a 4Mbit cartridge.

ST2 suffers from Earthworm Jim 2 Syndrome, as in it doesn't know what the fuck it wants to be, and ends up being a jack of all trades master of none. There's exactly ONE actual Turrican-esque level in the whole game and even that one is heavily linear while the rest are a mishmash of short "walk from the left to the right" stages, Axelay rip-off shmup levels, faux 3D stages and other gimmicks with no real core gameplay.

Mega Turrican felt like Super Turrican on steroids with all of its planned features included and the beam weapon replaced with a grappling hook.

Shame that Turrican 3D never came to be but judging by the footage and backstory that got leaked it might've been for the better.

sorry you had to read this

>>4989269
>good but euro design

I just like the fact that the Super Nintendo game is called Super Turrican and the Mega Drive game is called Mega Turrican.

>>4990124

I find it disturbing this series still didnt receive any official remaster or remake.

>>4988771
Were they originally programmed for C64? I assume Amiga is still the better version to play.

I never understood why the Turrican assault suit helmet leaves the mouth exposed like that.

>>4990745
The ownership of the IP was a mess and it wasn't until last year that Factor 5 reformed and got it back (IIRC THQ had it up until then).
Funfact: there was an attempt to reboot the franchise in 2008 but yeah, it didn't go too well.
Here's some very early pre-alpha footage (member when that actually meant "fuckall is done" instead of "we only haven't decided on the HUD design"?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utJY-y5Na6c

>>4990791
Given how a lot of stuff was "inspired" by other things like the ship and some scenes from the C64 intro being traced and edited Macross images, The Machine being the Liefeld-villain Stryfe and the Turrican sprite being the spitting image of the one from Psycho-Nics Oscar. I wouldn't be surprised if the suit design was actually taken from somwhere else, too.

>>4989353
>ST2 suffers from Earthworm Jim 2 Syndrome, as in it doesn't know what the fuck it wants to be, and ends up being a jack of all trades master of none. There's exactly ONE actual Turrican-esque level in the whole game and even that one is heavily linear while the rest are a mishmash of short "walk from the left to the right" stages, Axelay rip-off shmup levels, faux 3D stages and other gimmicks with no real core gameplay.

this is wrong though, the axelay stages and mode 7 ones kinda suck but the rest is really good and i liked the more linerar less turrican esque style.

>>4990236
yes meaning it has a feature all euro games suffer from namely shot power ratio to enemy health is off and they require too many hits to kill.

I really like console titles and Rendering Ranger.

>>4990791
Robocop

>>4991594
Oh don't get me wrong.
It's not that the levels are bad, quite the opposite, it's just that most of the game is a roller coaster ride from set-piece to set-piece with almost none of the exploration that the series is known for.
It's closer to a Contra than a Turrican title.

So why has still no one dumped the director's cut ROM from the Super NT?

>>4990124
Who the hell is Mr. T? Isn't Bren McGuire the protagonist of Turrican?

>>4992309
It wasn't until the second game that Bren was the main character.
In Turrican 1 and NES Super Turrican you were simply a guy called Turrican.

>>4992346
What if Turrican was a girl?

>>4988456
II was one of my first video games ever on the Amstrad CPC
>he was green for some reason

>>4990140
that was amazing

>>4992269
it's precisely why i like it though, exploration collectathons are dadshit guff and why do you want every game to be the same?

>>4992346
>>4992453
Samus and Turrican would make a nice couple.

Turrican 1/2 on the Commodore systems were my favourite childhood games. Never did like them on the consoles, they just seemed shit.

Turrican 1 on the C64 had amazing music, stolen straight from the Transformers animated movie from 1986. No one gave a fuck about copyrights in Europe back then...it didn't last long.

>>4990745
Not a remake but close.

>>4991671
Siiick

>>4991462
the final boss in the nes game, was traced from the final boss of fucking Aldynes on the supergrafx. how bizarre?

>>4992271
someone who has played it claims they added a single weapon and ice level. still no final world

There's also Gunlord for the Dreamcast if you need a "new" Turrican fix

Fucking amazing soundtrack that I listen to to this day.

>>4992867
Was this game ever released?

>>4988456
I used to have super turrican and turrican on gameboy before they became "rare" meme games. nobody really liked them then and to be honest the gameboy one kind of sucks, but super turrican was good and has cool powerups

>>4993094
Was gunlord the one with the intro where the protagonist yells "Bitches! Die in hell!"

>>4993115
Fug misquoted. I meant to reply to this guy. >>4992927
My bad

>>4993068
No but the development cycle has gotten worse. He recently threw out the more handmade animations and is going for a spline style animation, like you see in some flash games, he's also changed engines a few times and on his discord server he apparently has some crazy bitch as PR that actually challenges him on input with stuff.

It's fucked.

>>4992927
This. What a pity it got only a Dreamcast release.

>>4993348
was also on Neo Geo, but of course the rom doesn't exist

>>4993115
I have no idea, I had never even seen or heard of gunlord before your post

>>4993353
What's even a point of putting your effort into making a game for such extremely niche consoles ?

loved the JP release boxart for Super Turrican is somehow better than the actual thing

>>4991671
>>4993730

They're great run-n-gun shooters. Anyone remember the spiritual sequel called Gunlord? That was great as well.

>>4993690
Because neo geo owners do buy your game for $300

The important question is why not steam or modern consoles

>>4994241
You can still order a copy from binaryzone.org.

i loved this shit on my c64

>>4993752
Rendering Ranger is the spiritual successor.

>>4993094
I wish we had gotten the GBC port with Manfred Linzner score.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm0AkjRc1YI

>>4994771
>I wish we had gotten the GBC port with Manfred Linzner score.

Nice find

>>4988774
this

>>4988456
Turrican on the Atari St is a great game. Also worth checking out - Turvok the warrior on the same system. Sadly although we had the pirate disk, we could never get Turrican II to work - just bombed as soon as you loaded it.

I don't think the 16 bit versions are canon, though

>>4995707
Why not?

Super Turrican 2 on SNES is one of the most unfairly difficult games I've ever played
>that fucking mode7 speed bike section
reeee

>>4988834
>that fucking ominous synth in the background
how did they do it

>>4996578
Euroscene magic

>>4993730
The OVA you never got.

>>4997860
超鎧伝説タリカン
OHAYO MINNA-SAN, TURRIKANO, DESU!
WATASHI NO GESUTO NI NARU!
BETSU NO HI, BETSU NO KOKOROMI!
OBOETE IRU:
SHOOTU OR DIE!
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>>4996578
digital samples are played by toggling 4bits of the SIDs volume register fast enough to create the sample playback. you can use all 3 voices of the SID at the same time while playing the sample without any quality loss of the sample being played.. that's if your CIA or IRQ timer code isn't garbage. pretty easy to do.

>>4997984
>TFW you watch 4 porn streams and one has just gone down.

>>4988456
I'd kill for a Turrican x Metroid crossover.

>>4997984
>WWWWWWW
Pffft

>>4988491
Not action adventure enough to be like Metroid.

SNES Turricans were great. No invincibility frames Turricans were cancer.

>>4988774
Weeb

Giana Sisters, Hard 'n' Heavy, Katakis and Turrican 1-2 are all Germany's attempts to copy some popular games to the Commodore systems. They are good at their graphics and Huelsbeck's awesome music, but shit at everything else.

>>4995707
Some of the Atari tracks sound amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu1EFAqSnbA

>>4989353
Turrican would have sucked in 3D.

>>5004961

Armin Gessert, one of the men behind Giana Sisters for example founded Spellbound, though. They made some neat stuff like Airline Tycoon and Desperados. Fucking love Desperados.

>>5006125
New one coming.

>>5004961
The SNES Turricans are legitimately good games.

I don't know who was responsible for those, though. They are rather different from the originals.

>>5006125
>Fucking love Desperados.
So do I, man. It was the only one of those isometric stealth games that could truly scratch that Commandos itch.

And I loved the setting.

>>5006098
Would make for a nice Doom clone, no?

>>4996545
what? the first time is basic memo and the second you just ram into the enemy then do a jump to his other side when he brings out the spike.

>>5006164
Funfact: during T3D's development Trenz was strictly against turning it into an FPS. To him one of the most important things was to make it clear that you were playing Turrican so the suit and protag had to stand in the spotlight, something that in his eyes couldn't be done properly from the first person perspective.
Given how stubborn that guy is (for example he refused to lower the difficulty of Katakis up until the final development days because he could finish the whole game on one life) and how in the interview where he said that they also showed some actual FPS footage of the game I wouldn't be surprised if that was yet another reason why the game was cancelled.

>>4988476
Yeah, fun game. The grappling hook was fun.

>>5006910
I get that, but I still think a Doom clone would work.

>>5006910
>>5009117

If it looked and played like Metroid Prime then I'd definitely grab it.

>>5006910
Whoops, have to correct me there:
The interview didn't feature the first person footage but the trailer that AllVision, the co-developers, uploaded did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KxVDHZDBJ0

I enjoyed Mega Turrican because it had a more focused level design with getting through the level instead of some amount of level exploration. Too bad the games suffer from the player not having invincibility frames so if you are at an unfamiliar part you could get your health sapped hard.

>>5012672
but it's irrelevant when theres so many lives available, mega turrican for example the player can accumulate 49!! lives if they know where they are.

>>5012698
>but it's irrelevant
No, it's a flaw.

>>5010861
So many things I didn't know about this cancelled Turrican title.

>>5004961
Turrican isn't a copy of anything in particular tho
>Metroid
Only superficially, the games are just your average exploration based euro shoot em up from the same era.

>>5012715
no it's made irrelevant by the incredible life stock and was clearly balanced with it in mind.