/vr/ - Retro Games

First for SoR4 is gonna be irredeemably hot garbage.

>Streets of Rage 3 is too hard!

>tfw they never made a janky-but-flavorful Saturn or Dreamcast version

Best character is obviously Ash.

MAN TIGER
GRAND SMASHER
GRIND A PAW
AAUGGHRRR

>>5006518
At least we'll always have SORRemake. Probably the best fangame ever made.

>>5006580
What about that Paprium game, is it out of development hell yet? It looks way better than this SOR4

>>5006512
If you haven't played SpikeOut (which is basically the real Streets of Rage 4), then I don't know what you've been doing with your life.

I'd say it's going to be dotemu trash, but the animation is by Balak, so I'm mildly interested.

For those who don't know Balak, this is his work:
https://vimeo.com/240371569

>>5006625
What's so bad about dotemu? I can't recall playing any of their games.

>>5006565
>for the release of our new 3D console, let's discard all our incredibly successful franchises such as Sonic and Streets of Rage lol

Absolute genius.

>>5006565
You know there were "numerous" attempts of making Streets of Rage 4 before, right?

Kinda glad we never got an official game past 3. 3D beat em ups are all beyond awful.

>>5006518
The fact that they didn't hire Ancient and Koshiro/Kawashima for this is already a huge red flag.

>>5006664
Fighting Force is one of them

>>5006671
God Hand translates beat 'em up gameplay into 3D well.

>>5006671
onimusha, dmc, ninja gaiden 04, etc. are literally 3D beat em ups

>>5006693
>>5006701
all trash

>>5006650
>for the release of our new 3D console, let's discard all our incredibly successful franchises, or transform them into completely different things.
Fifth gen in a nutshell.

>>5006642
they raped every SNK port

>>5006704
train wreck taste

Final Fight is objectively better.

>>5006512
No link? Your going to make me look it up aren't you? I h8 u

>>5006671
die hard arcade would like to have a word with you

I really hope they remove Axl's nu-male beard in the full game, Blaze is looking fine as usual though. If Koshiro isn't composing then I won't bother.

ooh cool, I didn't know about this. Max is best character obviously
>>5006594
it's honestly looking to become another typical sad story in crowdfunding projects. I'm holding out some minor hope, but I know I'm just lying to myself.
>>5006519
you gotta at least wait for someone to say that man. please
>>5006682
I have such good memories about Fighting Force that I'm hesitant to try it again. I don't wanna find out it sucks
>>5006718
you can objectively go to hell

>>5006729

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=52&v=M_bgPefCyfA

>>5006518
The Wonder Boy III remake was excellent and this is by the same team, so I'm looking forward to it.

>>5006512
>tfw always played this with my brother
>tfw nowadays i don't see my family as much anymore
fuck growing up

>>5006642
They were responsible for some really garbage Neo Geo PC ports a while back. To be fair they've gotten a bit better since then, their Windjammers port has poor online but is otherwise fine and they published the pretty good Dragon's Trap remake.

>>5006519
The US version is, Japanese version is superior

>>5006594
There have been no updates for five months. People were told they could ask for refunds but those who ask are told Watermelon Games is still looking for a new payment provider because Paypal locked their funds because they were "too awesome." That also means they can't accept new pre-orders. I have heard rumblings about the cartridge actually going into production but there's still no actual gameplay footage and not a peep out of Fonz.

Tbh Streets of Rage for me has always been about the music with the gameplay coming in close second

If the music is not up to par then I don't care - doesn't have to be Koshiro but it better be good. Although, having Koshiro would make the series more consistent and would be an enormous selling point

>>5006679
>The fact that they didn't hire Ancient and Koshiro/Kawashima for this is already a huge red flag

The fact that Dotemu is making it is a huge red flag, even though Balak is good at art and that the French make the best electronic music.

I predict shit gameplay or a super fucking buggy game, that has a cool art direction and great music.

>>5006704
>God Hand is trash

I'd say "and then there is this faggot", but you are such a pretty sexy man. Just my type.

You really think they bothered to get the SoR licence from Sega and not Koshiro? There's a reason they haven't announced the composer yet.

>>5007237
>having Koshiro would make the series more consistent and would be an enormous selling point

Has he even done anything good lately? SOR2 was great for its Detroit techno, but the rest of the series had meh tunes to be honest - and the best tunes in SOR3 weren't even made by him.

>>5007409
>There's a reason they haven't announced the composer yet.

They did, it's Kirosen. French outfit that does music for advertising and cartoons. They did the music for Totally Spies. I don't hear anything that similarly rocks out in their portfolio, but it sounds like they are extremely good at using electronic sampled music. And I mean the good oldschool kind, not the dubstep bullshit.

Honestly, the music is what I worry about the least. Dotemu has a reputation for making horribly buggy titles. They can still do something like ask Koshiro to do them a version of the SOR theme that is used in the ending or so.

And I dig the art style they are using - It's too early to say that I like it, it certainly feels pretty different, but I think I can grow to like it. Geezer Axel looks absolutely fucking great. Also, consider how kinky the game will look, with the lead animator being a guy who has already done a cartoon bestiality in a TV show.

The animations for SOR4 are done by the same person who did this.

Just keep that in mind.

>>5007192

>>5007431
Hot. When the fuck did 4chan turn into a bunch of prudes? Who gives a fuck if he made bestiality rape cartoons as long as it works well.

>>5007427
>They did, it's Kirosen. French outfit that does music for advertising and cartoons.
Yeah, they made the trailer music, you dumbass.
We know the art is by the Wonderboy remake guys, and the game design and programming are done by the Streets of Fury guys. They avoided talking about who was making the music.

>>5007427

>the barely-hidden Blaze panty shot in the SoR4 trailer

>>5006512
>SoR4 is actually happening
Fonzie on suicide watch if anyone can find him.

>Axel is a grumpy man in his early to mid 30s
>Blaze is in ara ara mode and knows she's hot

What did they mean by this?

>>5006594
>is it out of development hell yet
Nope and there's been lots of evidence creeping up of Fonzie being a really scummy guy behind the scenes too.

>>5006512
>Who's the best character and why is it Axel?
You meant to say Max.
>>5006518
>First for SoR4 is gonna be irredeemably hot garbage.
Maybe, it looks like the fundamentals for gameplay are there although it is hard to screw up the gameplay on a beat em up.
>>5006580
>At least we'll always have SORRemake. Probably the best fangame ever made.
Where does one find this remake?

Hopefully it stays as true as the new river city ransom.

>>5006519
SoR3 is tough but manageable the whole way through. Up until you're trying to get the best ending against the true final boss. He's horseshit and you know it

>>5006512
>Who's the best character and why is it Axel?
I think you mean Zan.
OLD MEN
WARNING
WARNING

>>5007564
Axel is now an old geezer. And he has never looked manlier.

>>5007581
Fair point. But he doesn't have extending cybernetic arms

Your thoughts on pic related?

>>5007624
why can fat dudes in video games always breathe fire

>>5007637
Because fat people eat lighter fluid.

>>5006512
Because their stomachs are full of spicy mexican food. Just a funny thought that occurred to me.

>>5006512
>Who's the best character and why is it Axel?
But that's wrong though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqO5yPj2zyI

>>5007637

Volatile gases in the stomach from overeating. It is common medical procedure to implant a spark igniter to help the release of gas.

i've only played 1
it's great fun coop

>>5006713
Except Nintendo only really abandoned Metroid. They kept Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Kirby and even started to get at the time new great exclusives like Banjo and Goldeneye. Playstation was brand new to the scene. Its really just that Sega discarded what got them recognizable as a name. They clearly paid the price tons of times for their mismanagement.

>>5007624
SoR2 had it right. It's satisfying tossing the fat boiz into other enemies.

>>5007427
>the lead animator being a guy who has already done a cartoon bestiality in a TV show.
I need to know more

>>5006580
I always thought he said GRASSHOPPUH
Never understood why

>>5006625
Any chance you could point me to the episode where the webm comes from?
Doesn't look like the 3 videos from Vimeo have her in it.

>>5006905
I liked Fighting Force too, though I may be proven just as wrong on replay. I probably would have liked it even more with SoR cast members.

>>5006605
>If you haven't played SpikeOut (which is basically the real Streets of Rage 4)

That shit looks awful. A SOR4 could have went for something more along the lines of Tekken 4's force mode. Although now we will be getting a more traditional beat em up game for the fourth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxRUffGd-bY

>>5007880
Tekken force mode SUCKS

>>5007560
He's incredibly easy. You can literally just sit there and jump attack as soon as he gets up.

>>5007523
Axel having a boomer beard is a very nice touch imo.

>not published by SEGA

WHAT?

>>5007637
>Fat guy with suspenders and hat
>Has fireball Marios' colors
>Breathes fire
C'mon, this was textbook Sega fucking with Nintendo.

>>5006905

fighting force is still clunky but fun

>>5007427

He did Revenge Of Shinobi, but that was pre SOR

>>5007913
Try doing that as Zan

>>5007918
They've been handing out licenses like that a lot lately.
Shenmue 3 and Toejam & Earl made sense what with the creators of those IPs wanting to use them, but Dotemu getting usage of Wonder Boy and now Streets of Rage is quite baffling. What did they do right to get trusted with such classics?

>>5008004
Such classics nobody under the age of 30 fucking remembers.

>>5008004
They also allowed that romhack team to make a Sonic game. Not to the same extreme as these other examples here but still it seems crazy to me what they are doing since just about all gaming companies as big as sega or bigger wouldn't do shit like this ever. Hopefully they do something with Golden Axe next then. Wouldn't mind seeing what they can do with that. I didn't like GA3 though.

>>5006512
>honoring anything with dotemus name on it
Let’s have SoR thread but fuck SoR4 and fuck dotemu

>>5007070
There windjammers port is basically just as bad. It uses the same shit nebula emulator. The only difference between there other SNK ports and the windjammers port is that windjammers didn’t start out as a mobile port first. Can’t wait to see them ruin windjammers with that shitty sequel no one asked for. Fuck France and fuck dotemu.

>>5007049
I only wish that team was handling the Wonder Boy IV remake too, too bad they are not.
Their art for WBIII was incredible, and being able to switch on the fly between old and new is exactly what I want from a remake.

>>5008004
>What did they do right to get trusted with such classics?
Wonder Boy Dragon's Trap was pretty awesome.

>>5008008
lol, go play your mobile games youngin'

>>5008008
>judging quality by a game's popularity

You have to go back to /v/.

>>5007427
Correct, lately Koshiro's stuff has not had nearly the same impact as streets of rage. However, he obviously excels at the electronic style that's so heavily a part of the streets of rage series. If he was composing for SoR4 I think he'd do a good job and would at least keep the game's aural aesthetic. But who knows, maybe this new composer will surprise us with some great music

It's obviously Axel. OP answered his own topic.

>>5008271
>Koshiro's stuff has not had nearly the same impact as streets of rage.
His music for Etrian Odyssey has been as good as his old work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVMNBnJ-eYQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhXG1mho9-s
Because he doesn't make clubing music like in SoR doesn't mean there's no impact. He's probably more well-known in Japan for Ys and Actraiser anyway.

>>5006905
he's right though final fight is FAR superior to fucking streets oif rage which is over long, clunky, poorly balanced so bad they just chucked fucking lives like candy at you instead of ironing it out.

the only fucking reason anyone likes sor games is nostalgia and soundtrack and candy lives so you never have to learn shit to get through, no decent bmup player thinks fucking streets of gay is even close to arcade bmups because it isn't, now cunt off fart knocker

>>5007192
lmao typical VR where easy always means OMG BETTER GAME!, fuck i hate low iq no skill scum.

>>5007427
detroit tech was 3 not 2 you fucking ignorant bedroom dwelling soi specs gaymer cunt with the sole exception of expander.

Should've just made an SoR fighting game.
Bmups are outdated, stale and generic.

>>5008579
t. someone who never played Battle Circuit

>>5008579
Most fighting games are shit because they require you to memorize tons of arbitrary keypress sequences that can be like 20 keypresses long. Controls in SoR are at least intuitive.

>>5008616
a game actually requires you to learn it to be good at it?
how dreadful

3's soundtrack is so fucking good

>>5008613
The unlock system in this game is broken, Yellow Cat can rack in coins easily while Green Plant has an insanely difficult time making money. Doesn't help that the true last boss requirement is directly linked to having all moves unlocked

Its probably going to be okay. Complaints: Aesthetically, I don't think Axel needs a beard.

Most important is that Streets of Rage's city is a mix of old japan (Shinobi) and cops & criminals who have access to cyborg stuff. Kinda like Robocop.

I don't think the soundtrack should be metal. But in the end this isn't going to be like the old ones with a different developer.

I find a bit sad that a lot of people is celebrating all this retro releases of SEGA as a sort of a renaissance.
First of all, the majority are being outsourced to western studios. Sometimes you get something interesting like Sonic Mania, but nevertheless, it's kind of sad having people outside of the original teams reviving a japanese company old hits.

And lastly, Sega was a company always thinking ahead of the rest, experimenting with new technologies, optimistic about the future, and with a image of coolness that not even Nintendo could have. Now, it looks like and old man watching old photographs and trying to remember the "goold old days". All this insistence on their past, and the thousands of Mega Drive retro packs being released are not a good sign.
I loved when Sega brought back their old IPS but tried new things with those, like Sonic Adventure, Phanstasy Star Online, Rent a Hero and Ecco the Dolphin for Dreamcast, Outrun 2006, etc. Sometimes they got it wrong (Shinobi or Altered Beast for PS2) but at least they tried something new and went for fresh concepts.

>>5008579
>Bmups are outdated, stale and generic
remind us how many you've 1cced?

what's that? none? i'll guarantee it.

>>5006512
I really enjoyed playing this thing, ROBOT NINJAS!

>>5008763
they're too fucking boring to 1cc lol
maybe if there was more to them than just reacting to and exploiting AI patterns

>>5008803
That's how you beat any AI. You learn what it does and you attack its weakness.

>>5008819
Most other genres have level design to complement exploiting enemy AI

>>5008829
But levels are just a series of walls to walk around and holes to avoid. Really, all video games are very boring.

>>5006512
It looks like shit. Not interested in the least.

>>5008847
>Really, all video games are very boring.
the unfortunate truth
pick up juggling rings instead, lads

>>5007192
The Japanese version is shit, too. It's way too easy and exploitable, even on the hardest difficulty. The US version at least is a challenge, but nowhere close to SOR2 Mania mode.

>>5008613
>Battle Circuit
Completely average game. Not bad, but not great.

>>5008678
Green has no problem with money. Use the ground smash throw. Weird how so many people don't know about that move. Do a regular left/right throw then wiggle. Plenty of money and damage.

>>5007624
I prefer ones you can't throw. Beyond that I preferred the SoR2 ones in every way

>>5008737
>a japanese company old hits
Sega was founded by in an American in Hawaii which is in America.

>>5009103
No, it was founded by a literal j*w.

>>5007759
>I need to know more
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4numka

Here you go.

>>5008238
>You have to go back to /v/.
/v/ had like three giant SOR4 threads already just yesterday.

>>5008579
Still a better genre than jrpgs and platformers.
Nothing Beats Denjin Makai 2
>>5008910
>Completely average game
lol

>>5008579
>Bmups are outdated, stale and generic.

And you forgot "fun as fuck" especially in multiplayer.

>>5007395
IM NOT THAT KINDA GUUUUUY

>>5008737
Now, it looks like and old man watching old photographs and trying to remember the "goold old days".
That's Nintendo. If anything, Sega is like the 30 year old boomer that still crashes college parties and thinks he's cool with his 'back in the day' stories.

>>5008803
knew it... you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and just use blanket assumption to cover it. Every bmup is vastly different to 1cc from the next and they have loads of intricate knowledge and tech needed to get good. Go on try and clear ANY with what you describe and i mean arcade ones not drivel console ones. Nothing but ignorance.

>>5009631
>This fetish tier garbage disguised as comedy
If SoR 4 gets this the franchise is dead.

>>5008737
Agreed. I think there've been more instances of "hey guys, remember GREEN HILL ZONE??" stuff than there were actual classic Sonic games.

>>5006512
im far right but i always chose adam hunter back in the day,his kick boxing was better than axels style imo.

i infact never bothered playing sor2 due to adam being made some bitch you gotta rescue

>>5007880
err no fighting force was supposed to be SOR4 but it was cancelled and made into another game

>>5010276
>can't handle a little bestiality in their comedy
are americans truly this herbivorous

>>5008547
Gonna have to disagree with you there, bud. Koshiro's work on SoR is nearly universally acclaimed for its culmination of so many different electronic styles in a single score, not to mention how far he had to push Sega's hardware to create convincing tracks on an FM Synth chip. Not just from a video game soundtrack standpoint, but from a purely musical standpoint the SoR tracks are an absolute hit in almost every way and their reputation shows.

The tracks you posted might have decent influence in Japan, but the SoR tracks have influence everywhere. Love Koshiro but the tracks you posted didn't impress me much - difference in taste, I guess.

Off-topic, but does anyone know of artists with dance/electronic music with the same flair as Streets of Rage? Particularly 2 or 3 if really anything like it exists

Been having a hard time because the Streets of Rage soundtracks are so dynamic and constantly changing that actual 90s club music isn't itching the same scratch

>>5010396
https://youtu.be/eBCd50zOC6o?list=PLv1tYJbe3vGMr3ctn7d_fIm6u1_akD_si
>Implying SOR will have a soundtrack on par with the first game.
It better play well and cost less than 20 dollarydoos.

>>5009974
>IM NOT THAT KINDA GUUUUUY

Sure you are.

>>5009982
The problem with Nintendo today is more of a creative bankrupt, at least in software. Just churning out sequels of Paper Mario, Pokemon, Yoshi, Pikmin, Fire Emblem, Smash Bros, WarioWare, or remakes of old games for 3DS. Sega is looking at the past with nostalgia, but Nintendo is just repeating it constantly with the same sequels since the end of Wii (except for a few exceptions).

Despite being a fan of pixel art and 2D, I believe SOR4 should have been in 3D like Yakuza and made in Japan by Sega and Ancient. I don't trust much current Sega, but it would have been interesting to see.

>>5009861
Friendless autists never actually get to enjoy the fun of co-op in beat em ups, so they judge them solely on the single player experience.

>>5010354
>a little
>Literally shows the animal's genitalia and it hitting the mouth of the woman
I never said bestiality couldn't be funny. But that wasn't funny. It was just fetish garbage.

>>5010554
>churning out sequels of Paper Mario, Pokemon, Yoshi, Pikmin, Fire Emblem, Smash Bros, WarioWare, or remakes of old games for 3DS.

Geez, sounds like the same thing they did last decade, except for a new IP, Splatoon.

And that sounds like the same thing they did before that, except for a new IP, Pikmin.

And that sounds like the same thing they did before that, except for a new IP, Pokémon.

Why I even remember having the SNES having sequels and sequels to Mario and Zelda and Metroid, with a few new IPs like Pilotwings, while they were rehashing their old titles with Mario All Stars.

It's like you aren't following videogames at all.

>>5011128
It's Beauty and the Beast reinterpreted as fetish garbage, and that's fucking funny.

>>5010387

You mean the songs he stole wholesale.

>>5009631
>>5010276
Shit reminds me of early 2000s Newgrounds flash animations. Maybe they should have hired Shadman as their animator

>>5010396
Only Battle Garegga and X-Kaliber 2097 come to mind.

>>5009631
I think I kinda like this show. Look, they have Guile in there!
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4nnk1s
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4nnjt6 and mario

>>5011743
Are there english dubs somewhere?

>>5011841
apparently there's an english dub called "The Wakos"

>>5011139
No way they are the same now that in the early to mid 2000s, when they were creating a lot of new games like Mario & Luigi RPG, Rythm Tengoku, the Bit Generations, Brain Training, Nintendogs, WarioWare, Chibi-Robo, New Super Mario Bros, Mario & Donkey, Kong, the Tingle RPGs, etc. Or doing something entirely new with their old IPs like Metroid Prime or Kirby Paintbrush.
Nothing like today, when they are doing greatest hits of Mario Party or Wario Ware, and announcing more sequels of Paper Mario, Mario Kart and Metroid Prime.

>>5011841
The first two seasons have subtitles, the third does not. It used to be all up on YouTube too (yes, including the bestiality clip), but they pulled a "not available in your country" move. Since then it's been up on other sites. I remember I managed to pull all the HD clips from somewhere, but I don't remember where.

>>5010396
lmfao gamers are such fucking sheltered clueless losers, you realize the sor soundtracks are plagiarized remakes to begin with? try digging through old school hardcore from the uk, hard detroit techno from 89-94 and there you will find what you are after, idiot.

>>5010387
all his work is just remakes though, he gets way to much credit just because it was in a game and bedroom dwelling sois never experienced music anywhere else.

>>5010387
>how far he had to push Sega's hardware to create convincing tracks on an FM Synth chip.

also wrong, he wrote his own driver to utilize the chip in a way he could use better. I'd say technically adventures of batman and robin was a more impressive tech feat.

>>5011557
yeah because youre fucking CLUELESS, garegga is exactly like sor ie complete RIP OFFS of existing detroit tech and hardcore records. Fucking hell you are such ignorant shit worthless people here, your entire life is in a bedroom bubble, no interests but MUH GAME no life experience but MUH GAME no knowledge of ANYTHING but MUH GAME, fucking losers the lot of you.

>>5012557
CRUISE CONTROL

>>5008829
That doesn't mean anything though. Level design doesn't make games better or deeper by default. Most 2D games with environments are far more shallow than the average beat em up because there is less complexity to the AI, their interplay, positioning and player moveset.

>>5008579
>Should've just made an SoR fighting game.

This would actually be amazing if done correct but fuck the second part of your post.

>>5006605
This. Spikeout Final is grat and you can emulate on a toaster.

>>5006992
Literal Perfection.