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Going to play this for the first time. Any tips? Original EB0 rom, btw.

>> No.4930819

Can you handle random battles?

>> No.4930819,1 [INTERNAL] 

If you figure out the battle system, let me know fgsgds

>> No.4931108

>Original EB0 rom
you're already doing it perfectly, anon. Just play it and enjoy it. Try and play it with decent speakers or headphones, the music is some of the best you can get out of the stock NES/FC sound chip.

>> No.4931127

Pay attention to hints in game. The game isn't as obscure as people make it out to be as long as you pay attention. This includes visual hints cuzz there is at least one visual hints that only plays once but it's pretty obvious when you see it.

>> No.4931135

>>4931127
This, unlike Earthbound where most NPCs are just there for funny dialogue, most of the dialogue here is helpful, you just got to pay attention. For example, there's a NPC in the first town that asks you how your Asthma is doing, and this clues you in on Ninten having Asthma. So buy Asthma spray so you won't get fucked over in battle.

>> No.4931138

>>4930814
Just play through the game. Don't follow too many guides or maps save for maybe a few dungeons (but maybe make your own!) and just sort of explore the big contiguous world.

>> No.4931141

>>4931108
I still think that it has the best soundtrack out of the Mother games, every time I hear the 8 Melodies it sends chills down my spine.

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>>4930814
>Original EB0 rom
I suggest playing the gba version with the color restoration patch. The translation in the EB0 rom is very dry and dull, also censored in areas.

Either way grinding isn't as a bad as people say. For me I would say there are four crucial parts you should grind at.
>very beginning
>entering magicant for the first time
>when Lloyd joins
>when Ana joins

Almost all equipment beside weapons is sold in Magicant, a few things are found in dungeons, so you can technically get the best equipment as soon as you go there. You might need to grind a bit but as I said above, it's worth it.

PSI attacks are a bit weird here. Some have effects like instakill or bringing a enemy down to 1 hp, they can be pretty broken.

Remember to grab the Onyx Hook, it's nice to have and some people forget about it.

>> No.4931150

>>4930814
Use bread crumbs and make fucking SURE you get the Onyx Hook from Magicant.

>> No.4931154

>spoiling the game for him
Just play it OP

>> No.4931162

>>4931154
We're giving him tips you sperg, we're not spoiling plot points or anything.

>> No.4931168

>>4931141
Agreed completely

>> No.4931170

>>4931146
>I suggest playing the gba version with the color restoration patch. The translation in the EB0 rom is very dry and dull, also censored in areas.
Complete bullshit, OP should under no circumstances play that nightmare of a port for their first run.

>> No.4931175
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>>4931170
Better translation makes it overall better in my opinion. The original translation is shit.

>> No.4931179

>>4931175
Couldn't disagree more about the translation. It's that different, and certainly not worth playing The GBA version for. It absolutely sucks, it could be translated by God and wouldn't be worth playing over the NES version.

>> No.4931180

>>4931179
It's NOT that different*

>> No.4931182

>>4931175
Eh, I prefer NoA's town names, they fit better with the small town setting than the holiday names of the original.

>> No.4931184

>>4931182
this guy gets it

>> No.4931193

I finished it this year. You'e gonna suffer a little, OP.

>> No.4931223
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>>4931179
Lots of lines are more dull or don't flow as well. There's also things like the removal of blood and crosses in the rom.
>>4931182
>>4931184
Weird, I liked the town's names being holidays as it felt like in line as jokey misunderstanding of how a Japanese person views western society. I remember Phil Sandhop said he changed them as he thought they sounded "childish" which I think is kind of petty.

I don't despise the Sandhop translation, like many it was how I first experienced the game, but the dialouge is a crucial aspect of the series for me and I think a better script makes the gba version better for that alone. The worse sound quality and smaller screen size don't bother me nearly as much as the duller script of EB0.

>> No.4931231

>>4931223
'Dullness' and 'flow' are subjective at best, total fabrications at worst. The holiday towns are not only Engrish that makes no sense to a native speaker, they do sound childish and would have been a turn-off for the teenage American game buyer; it was the right move. If you can actually say stomach the GBA versions music, you must not have much of an appreciation for the soundtrack(s) of the series as a whole.

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>>4931231
>they do sound childish and would have been a turn-off for the teenage American game buyer; it was the right move
I'm an adult and not bothered if something is "childish". Being "childish" isn't a problem for me. I don't think the Mother series is for you if you need something "mature".
>If you can actually say stomach the GBA versions music, you must not have much of an appreciation for the soundtrack(s) of the series as a whole
Nice projection.

Literally all I said is I prefer the gba fan translation and why, no need to get pissy.

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>>4931223
I understand the humor of the holiday names, the game's supposed to be goofy, but as a burger I feel that names like Podunk, Merrysville, Youngtown, etc. are far more homelier, the game's theme is centered around Americana after all.

>> No.4931313

>>4930814
>any tips?
Yeah. When you start the game, level grind until you learn lifeup a. From there, don't bother grinding. When you get a new character, just have them defend in battle, and always deck them out with the best gear you can get in Magicant. Use buffs on yourself, debuffs, etc. If you don't, you'll be in for a treat (death). Toward the end of the game, you'll get a PP draining move, make sure to use it plenty so you can keep yourself going in the final dungeon.

>> No.4931348

>>4931272
I'm certainly not the one projecting and getting pissy. I never called into question your """adulthood""" (why would I do that, on 4chan of all places?). I just speculated about the American game buyer during the time-frame in which the game was originally intended to launch.

>> No.4932009

The Hippie USEd Bullhorn!
"Your mother is calling for you!"

>> No.4932020

I started playing recently, lol at using the EB0 rom though. Get the Virtual Console dump.

https://www71.zippyshare.com/v/dFBlKVsF/file.html

This file matches what's in DAT-o-MATIC. No need to be using a hacked up dump of the prototype in 2018.

>> No.4932117

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LevPCQSsaKc
I think I can hear the static from Giygas Disintegrates from this, as well.

>> No.4932187

>>4932009
But Ninten wasn't convinced. This made Ninten angry.
friggin' mama's boy

>> No.4932217

>>4932020
Thanks anon, I never thought to seek out the VC dump.

>> No.4932276

Grind grind grind. Grind in Magicant. Save Ana for leveling as much as possible. Don't worry about leveling Loid until you get Teddy.

When you reach Duncan's Factory, try to carry as little as possible, preferably healing items only, as you'll find some nice goodies while you're grinding and suffering its arduous maze.

>> No.4932282

>>4932276
Also posting this little gem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1MVrc5SvC8

>> No.4932841

>>4932276
Do not listen to this asshole's advice, he will make you hate this game.

>> No.4932864

Stop singing.

>> No.4932951

What's wrong with the GBA port? I played it and enjoyed it a lot.

>> No.4932956

>>4932951
Most people's gripes are with the audio, and I don't think anybody can deny that it sucks

>> No.4933021 [DELETED] 

>>4932951
Reduced screen ratio and worse sound. Something that happens with I think every port of home system games on GBA.
That said, it's still a decent port, and the only version that has the run button without glitching the NPCs speed. The sound is not as good as on the Famicom/NES, but it's not horrible to the point of being unbearable I think.
The same applis to Mother 2 GBA.

>> No.4933237 [DELETED] 

>>4930814
>Any tips?
It's not very good, Play mother 3 instead.

>> No.4933246

>Playing EB0 zero prototype

>not simply learning japanese

>> No.4933656
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4933656

You know I've wondered: could Giygas's ramblings in Earthbound be about George, Maria, Ninten, Lloyd, Ana and the like?

>> No.4933941 [DELETED] 

>>4933021
The only reason to even play it on the NES would be for the OST.

The GBA version is just in general the way to go. The "easy ring" balances the game out much better, but not to the point where it feels too easy.

>> No.4934204

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3623/

>> No.4934207 [DELETED] 

Undertale is not a bad use of six hours.

>> No.4934883

Don't forget to use bread crumbs when you're in Duncan's factory or the Rosemary house

>> No.4935794

just remembered that today is this game's 29th birthday, fuck

>> No.4937441 [DELETED] 

>>4934207
This is true. For a four to six hour game it is pretty good.

It becomes far worse however once you start devoting months and years of your life to it.

>> No.4939568 [DELETED] 

>>4934207
I mean there's better ways to spend 6 hours, but sure.

>> No.4941461

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDnpZjApD-I

>> No.4941470

>>4941461
Not even the best song from the game desu

>> No.4941592
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmZMMSDx3Yg

>> No.4942324

The only RPG on the NES I've played more than once.
Since it's always called a Dragon Quest clone, are the DQ games as fun/comfy as this one?

>> No.4942339

>>4932956
People can shit all they want on the GBA port, but the controls were so much better

>> No.4942407

>>4942339
They're objectively much worse. The tile-based movement is an important part of the feel of the real game. Ice-skating all around a wrong-resolution version of the world map like a flash game sucks.

>> No.4942416

>>4941470
Of course, I only like it for the fact that it's useful for looking for the cactus, required for a pointless tank that provides you with an even more pointless location with pathological lying monkeys in a cave, after going on the plane tours, of course; and that it plays in the credits.
I'd have to pick either Mt. Itoi, for level grinding and that it's a fitting track for the climb to Giegue; or Snowman, since it's Snowman; or Pollyana; or Magicant; or Factory.

>> No.4942420

>>4942416
Pollyana's always been one of my favorite songs from the game and the Mother series as a whole: It gives that small American town feeling that's warm and inviting.

>> No.4942724

>>4942324
They're better.

>> No.4943064

>>4942407
>tile-based movement is an important part of the feel of the real game
literally nostalgia holy shit how can you think the delayed controls are good and part of the experience?
that is wrong
stop being wrong
force yourself to stop thinking wrong

>> No.4943438

>>4943064
>Being so delusional that you've told yourself a fan-translation of the objectively worst version of a classic game is not only the best version, but is actually devoid of any flaws whatsoever and that anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong, when in reality, it is they who are 100% certifiably correct in every single way.
wew lad

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4943525

It's a bit grindier and not as goofy as Earthbound but it has its charms, particularly the soundtrack.
Also the story and downfall of Giygas is far superior and far more emotional than that of Porky's, I don't give a shit what anybody thinks

>> No.4943561

is there a romhack/cheat that takes the grind away? I want to play it but I also got shit to do.

>> No.4943571

>>4943561
Yes, several. Don't.

>> No.4944004
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Lloyd's the slowest, Ana's has the highest PP stat, but is the frailest and physically weakest of the party members; Ninten's strength, speed, and fight, can max out like Pippi and Teddy's if you go out of your way to see that stat growth, Teddy has the highest damage output than Ninten, due to the Katana.

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4945206

What would be a good emulator to run this with?

>> No.4945334

>>4943525
This, Mother has a great Story, Mother 2's story is inferior and simplified. What even was the story of Mother 2?

>> No.4945351

>>4945334
I was talking about 3 having the inferior story you fucking retard, 2's is a good conclusion to the tragic tale of Giegue/Giygas.

>> No.4945538

So many gigantic labyrinth dungeons, random encounters and grinding that you'll cry yourself to sleep.

>> No.4945540

>>4945538
No crying until the end

>> No.4946121

>>4945538
>so many gigantic labyrinth dungeons
Literally only in the original Japanese version, the only annoying dungeons in the localized versions are Duncan's Factory and Mt. Itoi. All other dungeons are extremely short.

>> No.4946159

>>4930814
Is there any difference between the leaked dump and the Virtual Console one? Or it is the same thing?

>> No.4946160

>>4946159
As far as I know only the title screen seems to be changed.

>> No.4947568
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4947568

Kind of a bizarre question but was Teddy the most pointless character in the game? I'm aware that he's stronger than Lloyd but you drop him right before you get to Mt. Itoi, even Poo who fucks off from the game for a while is with you during the final battle in Earthbound

>> No.4947584

>>4947568
Teddy is great help for getting through Mt. Itoi the first time, and if you do some things out of order you can actually beat the game with him instead of Lloyd.

>> No.4947694

>>4947568
You get Lloyd to repair a boat to EVE, have EVE die and then get Lloyd to fuck off to have Teddy for the rest of the game.
That's also part of how to get most out of a Ninten-only run; touch the door to the left in the house with Teddy, use Onyx Hook right entering the door, as long as you don't go to Queen Mary for her to recognize the tunes.

>> No.4947721

>>4942324
Yes. The only thing they don't do as well is that they have the overworld/town split rather than an open, contiguous world.

>> No.4947765

>>4932951
>>4932956
anons know jackshit, the audio issues only apply to mother 2 of the same release, GBA Mother 1 with fan translation is the way to go, NES rom on the other hand is an unfinished mess, don't know about the VC release, but knowing Nintendo I wouldn't be surprised, if it was crap

>> No.4948295

>>4945540
i’ll never not love this tagline, it reeks of ghibli-ness

>> No.4948480

>>4948295
Didn't Itoi do some stuff for Ghibli? I know one of his jobs was making taglines.

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>>4948480
that and I think he did some voice acting for one of Ghibli's films It makes me wish that Mother got an OVA/anime/film like Mario and Fire Emblem did, I would pay out the ass to see an animated fight between Ninten and one of the Hippies

>> No.4949660

>>4948487
I'd even settle for a manga. It would be glorious.

>> No.4949680

>>4949660
As long as i can see Ninten go into a fit of rage and beat the shit out of a hippie and a dog i don't care what medium it is although i think i'd be a bit reluctant to read one, Valentine '88 soured my view of a Mother 1/Earthbound Beginnings manga/doujin

>> No.4949909

>>4932020
Oh fuck, just ran this through a diff together with a clean EB0 prototype dump.
>exactly the same except for one bit(!!!!) difference in the header
>bit controls screen mirroring which is ignored by the mapper so it effectively doesn't do anything

You gotta hand it to them. I've never seen a company so lazy that they download an unreleased rom that's been floating on the internet for years, sell it on their paid download service as-is, and change a single non-functional bit to fuck up the checksum so they can claim it was totally dumped by themselves. The fact that it doesn't have an original title screen and that it's using an iNES header at all is a dead give-away though.

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>>4948295
>>4948480
Itoi did the taglines for a couple Ghibli movies. Porco Rosso comes to mind.
>カッコイイとは、こういうことさ。
>This, this is what's called “cool.”

>> No.4949967

>>4931135
Ninten can't use asthma spray himself though. So it's useless until you get lloyd

>> No.4949971

>>4942416
>and that it plays in the credits.
That's actually a remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP31G3PzT08

>> No.4949973

>>4948480
>>4948487
Itoi was the Dad in My Neighbor Totoro

>> No.4949980

>>4947568
thematically I think Teddy was there to make the player realize that the final battle was something you can brute force. Teddy gives a monologue to that effect after he's injured.

>> No.4950031

>>4949680
>Valentine '88
Damn you anon, I actually searched for that

>> No.4950048

>>4947765
This is the most uninformed bullshit I've ever read.

>> No.4950203

>>4950031
Every time a Mother/Earthbound Beginnings thread pops up that doujin has to be mentioned, it's like a curse or something. I really wish that some straight shota doujins existed of the Mother series, Ninten, Ness and Lucas need some action with the girls damn it

>> No.4950376

>>4932282
the whole mother album is great

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>> No.4950494

>>4950478
based and red-snaked

>> No.4950502

>>4950478
fuck those god damn things, run away from me will you? say hello to ana and her pk beam β

>> No.4950504

>>4950502
I'd rather encounter the 4 LastStarman than attempt at killing this snake. At least they can give you a PSI Stone, as well as the 2nd highest experience yield.

>> No.4950506

>>4950504
Highest experience yield.

>> No.4950580

>>4950504
eh, the few times i was able to kill the fuckers they leveled up both lloyd and ana so it wasn’t that aggravating of a fight

>> No.4950668

what the fuck were Titanians anyway?

>> No.4950703

>>4950668
Just a type of ayyyy lmao I think

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>>4950668
A tough customer who'll pull a hypnosis spell on you.

>> No.4950761

>>4950743
You know I never noticed until now that the bag lady/older woman looks eerily similar to Pokey's mom from 2/Earthbound

>> No.4950765

>>4950743
After playing on my 2nd playthrough for 6 hours, I finally get why people rage at the Alligators and Crocodiles. They approach closer, you die almost instantly.

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>> No.4950795

>>4950048
>t. never checked shit for myself
stay ignorant

>> No.4950825

>>4950781
well they are dangerous foes

>> No.4950841
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4950841

so who's the best girl?

>> No.4950854
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>>4930814
It isn't the original rom since only 5 copies exist of the original, and they have not been dumped.

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>>4950841
Paula probably.
I dunno. Ana and Paula are samefags, Kumatora is boring.

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>>4951074
>filters

>> No.4951341

>>4950992
i tend to lean towards paula as well, but i guess that's because i prefer girls who are more feminine to kumatora's archetype

>> No.4951375

>>4950795
I've played both versions. I've played the NES version 3 or 4 times through. If you think the NES version is 'unfinished', you're truly ignorant. Also, tone-deaf.

>> No.4951376

>>4950854
I mean Nintendo released it, so that 'official' release ROM is out there.

>> No.4951417

>>4950854
>he actually believes this

It got dumped in 1999

>> No.4951420

https://gbatemp.net/threads/difference-between-earthbound-prototype-and-earthbound-zero.285470/#post-3549765

Some good info about the history of EB0 in this thread. This post kinda sums it all up.

>> No.4951446

https://web.archive.org/web/20040205175349fw_/http://demiforce.parodius.com/console/trans/ebz/eartbnd0.zip

Interestingly enough you can download the original 1.01 release of Earthbound Zero from archive.org's saved version of the Demiforce website. It includes a nfo file with lots of info about how he got the game in 1998 and dumped it. It also states that the original unhacked version was hosted on an older version of the Demiforce website. It's safe to assume that's the version we have now.

>> No.4951448

>>4951375
nice lies, I've played both versions 17 times each and I know better

>> No.4951451

>>4951446
So which is the one on the VC?

>> No.4951454

>>4951451
The files in that archive are the hacked version with the antipiracy checks removed and the title changed to say Earthbound Zero. If you want the vc one it's here: >>4932020

>> No.4951457

>>4951448
lol

>> No.4953076

>>4950743
>Hippie is under some one's control
Damn, that's pretty accurate

>> No.4953223

>>4950992
paula has a tomboy personality according to her dad, but shes obviously not afraid to be feminine when she wants too. shes the best of both worlds.

>> No.4953228

i really want a game set between 2 and 3 that explained what happened to 2s cast and what happened in that time in general.

>> No.4953238

>>4943525
tbqh if they just had giygas kill off pokey after he turned off the devils machine his story would have been pretty alright, but what they did with him in 3 was pretty fucking stupid imho.

>> No.4953242

>>4953228
Leader explained most of it though. I feel like making a game about how George got onto the ayy lmao planet would be more interesting.

>> No.4953248

>>4953242
>Leader explained most of it though
a text wall with him glossing over the actual important bits is a pretty shitty explanation.

>> No.4953385 [DELETED] 

>>4953223
and that’s why paula is best girl,perfect balance of both tomboy and feminine traits, but the question remains: who’s the best boy?

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>>4953223
Most important thing of all, she gets together with best boy in the end.

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>>4953223
most important of all she gets together with best boy and they make love

>> No.4953491

>>4930819
A battle every 3 steps isn't exactly random, anon.

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>> No.4953834

one thing i've always wondered is why does fanart depict ninten wearing a bandana and a red/white/blue striped shirt? neither his clay model nor his sprite have these

>> No.4954142

>>4953834
Because of the commercial and it helps differentiate Ninten from Ness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQUN7QAnMp0

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Killing Dragon, cleanly:
1. Reach Level 25 as Ninten.
2. Get Rope from any varying location or pay for it in Merrysville.
3. Get a Super Bomb from the Mysterious Teacher in Merrysville or from a Star Miner on Mt. Itoi Peak for Lloyd.
4. Engage Dragon.
5. Bind Dragon with Rope.
6. Throw Super Bomb.
7. 6th Melody.
8. ???
9. Profit.

>> No.4954482

>>4954260
>implying I don't have freeze gamma and teddy by the time I usually fight the dragon

>> No.4954553

>>4934204
Where's the English patch for the Jap version? The one for the GBA release is the only one I can find.

>> No.4954581

>>4954482
>Teddy goes first
>PK Freeze γ doesn't kill Dragon
>Not using Lloyd at his peak use of using a cost free PK Fire Ω and ending the battle in one turn
Smart plan.

>> No.4954612

>>4954482
Fuck Teddy, Lloyd is the true chad of Mother 1

>> No.4954624

>>4954581
>implying ninten won't attack after ana

>> No.4954640

>>4930814
>Original EB0 rom
fuck the purists, 25th anniversary edition romhack is the best way to play it

>> No.4954647
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>>4954640
>25th anniversary edition romhack is the best way to play it
It's fucking hideous though. I'll always swear by the fan translation along with the color restoration patch.

>> No.4954656

>>4954647
what's so hideous about it? I just don't see it

>> No.4954661

>>4954656
It just doesn't look quite right desu, though I guess I might be biased towards the simpler Peanuts style graphics of the EB0 prototype

>> No.4954667

>>4954661
There's a newish patch that lets you use the truncated tomato-translation in the NES game without the weird sprite hacks. Basically the 25th Anniversary hack without the art changes.

>> No.4954680

>>4954667
>Basically the 25th Anniversary hack without the art changes.
not having to grind everyone from lvl1 is a big part of it for me, is it also in? also, link pls.

>> No.4954684

>>4954680
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3623/
It's legit so there's no easy mode.

>> No.4954701

>>4954684
Not that anon, but is the run button omitted in that?

>> No.4954704
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>>4954647
>>4954684
Woah, this changes things. I always said the gba version was best because of the translation but if you can get the translation without the downside of the gba version then that would be the ultimate version of the game.

However I have to ask, have you tried this version? I remember playing a hack like this before but in it the translation had to be altered. The reason the gba version was used by the fan translation team is because the nes version had too limited space for them to fully translate it. Does this hack butcher the Tomato translation or is it the full translation on the nes game?

>> No.4954782
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>>4954684
>>4954704
Trying it now and this version seems almost perfect...almost. The only inconsistency I have found is that the Hillbilly is still "Wally". His literal name in Mother is "Ojisan" which translates literally to "Middle Age Man". That seems like it would be too long, and just "Man" is weird but I don't like the choice to leave it as "Wally" either. Tomato went with "Hillbilly" which is sort of a stretch but less specific. Beside this though it seems perfect from the little I've played.

>> No.4954809

>>4954782
>Middle Age Man
Boomer isn't too long

>> No.4954817

>>4954809
To be fair he could have easily named the hippies "boomer" and it would have made as much sense

>> No.4954826

>>4954704
I was under the impression it uses the same one as the 25th Anniversary hack, which I believe had to truncate a bit Tomato's fan-translation to fit. That said, it didn't seem 'off' when I tried it. But remember, Sandhop's translation is 100% canon after the Virtual Console release of the game.

>> No.4954847
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>>4954826
>which I believe had to truncate a bit Tomato's fan-translation to fit. That said, it didn't seem 'off' when I tried it.
It did. As I said, the nes rom didn't have enough space making it impossible to fit certain names. This is why when Tomato did the fan translation he worked with the gba version.
>But remember, Sandhop's translation is 100% canon after the Virtual Console release of the game
"Canon" is a weird term. I would argue Tomato's translation is more "canon" as it is closer to Itoi's original Japanese script. It can go either way. Even then Nintendo was obviously lazy about the Beginnings release. The fact they couldn't even change Giegue to Giygas for consistency will never not piss me off.

>> No.4954867
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>>4954847
Eh, the Giegue/Giygas thing never really bothered me, somebody mentioned that in another thread that the two names are good for distinguishing the two forms of the character: Giegue for the mama's boy alien, Giygas for the Lovecraftian rage ghost.
sorry for the Ness pic, I ran out of Mother 1 stuff in my Mother/Earthbound folder

>> No.4955712

>>4954782
the castle guards are creepy as fuck

>> No.4955717

>>4954847
Giegue is a much more accurate transliteration, if you're going to make that silly argument. There's nothing 'weird' about canon either; it's 100% black and white. It's the truth as defined by those in control of the series, Nintendo. No fan-translation can be canon by definition.

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>>4955717
>Giegue is a much more accurate transliteration
Not when Giygas was the established name by Earthbound 20 years ago.
>It's the truth as defined by those in control of the series, Nintendo. No fan-translation can be canon by definition
Itoi's intention is more important then whatever is released officially in America. The way the game was released in its home country is what I consider "canon".

>> No.4956142

>>4956135
lol so first you go all 'most accurate translation is true canon' and then backpedal when I give a good example of Sandhop's localization being more 'accurate'? You don't get to 'consider' things canon, anon. They are or they aren't; Tomato's translation is not canon, and it never will be. You seem to understand Itoi's true intentions, I take it you're completely fluent in Japanese and have played through MOTHER and read through its script as well? Assuming that's the case, I'd certainly be interested in hearing you out.

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>>4956142
As I said in >>4954847 about the topic, "canon" is a debatable term. You could argue Sandhop's translation is "canon" in that tbe US and Jaoan have a different "canon". It's not as black and white as you say.

Even then I just personally think Tomato's script is better, even if it isn't "canon". I find Sandhop's script pretty dry and I don't like most of his changes like the town names. May I ask why you like his translation so much more? The only thing I can think of is nostalgia but I want to hear why you defend it so vehemently.

>> No.4956202

>>4956184
I prefer it because it reads like an RPG script from 1990, the way it's supposed to, I like the localization choices, especially the changes to the town names. The NES version is virtually flawless, it's one of the greatest games on the platform. It simply didn't/doesn't need a new translation. Tomato's basically reads like he took the real translation and reworded a few things anyway. Not worth playing a compromised version of the game for, in my opinion.

>> No.4956204

>>4956184
Not him but I prefer Sandhop's town names to the original names, otherwise Tomato's translation is the best

>> No.4956217
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>>4956202
Have you not seen
>>4954684

There is no reason to "compromise", you can play the nes version with Tomato's script.
>>4956204
For me the holiday names just feel like so silly and like something from a outsider that I really love them. The only name I prefer in Sandhop's translation is Mt. Itoi over Holy Loly Mountain.

>> No.4956226

>>4956217
That's my post, anon. I have that version on my EverDrive, but I'm in the middle of a move so I haven't given it a full play-through yet.

>> No.4956232

>>4956217
Eh, I understand the humor behind them but Podunk, Merrysville, Youngtown, Ellay, Spookane etc. stick more with me, feels like I'm walking into this offbeat version of my country that Shiggo created.
Also post more Mother 1 stuff, my folder is starving[/spoileer]

>> No.4956246

>>4955712
What exactly were Ninten and his team doing while in Magicant if it wasn't real

>> No.4956253

>>4956246
Walking around wherever they warped from with vacant expressions in their eyes

>> No.4956257

>>4956246
>>4956253
They clearly just are teleported into magicant somehow because they end up in different places when they leave.

>> No.4956258

>>4956253
How does it explain the items they get in magicant that remain with them in the real world, the non-magicant citizens and everything else? How is Marry's subconscious some how in a bunch of rocks?

>> No.4956264

>>4956258
It's PSI nigga, Itoi doesn't have to explain shit.

>> No.4956268

>>4956258
Tbh I was making a reference to what an npc says after you defeat the Mani Mani statue in Moonside in EB, didn't really think that through

>> No.4956275

>>4956246
Magicant probably did exist in the sense that Mary's psychic projection was just that fucking strong.

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>>4956232

>> No.4956280
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>>4956232

>> No.4956281
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>>4956232

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>>4956232

>> No.4956286

>>4956280
Shit like this makes me want a live action movie adaptation of Mother 1 that looks just like this, complete with the same old Japanese show aesthetic and practical effects of the commercial

>> No.4956287

>>4956281
>>4956280
>>4956278
Thanks, Danke, Grazie, Arigato, etc. been meaning to refresh my folder but I don't wanna wade through gay shota just to find good pics on Pixiv

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>>4956287
haha no problem, that's all I have M1 related in my /vr/ folder. Other than a few Miiverse screenshots.

>> No.4956308

>>4956296
Ah, Miiverse, been 9 months since it died and it already feels like years. For real though, I had a lot of fun shitposting on there in the Minish Cap and Earthbound communities, of which I got banned a few times for making lewd jokes

>> No.4956312

>>4956308
haha amazing; I basically live blogged my playthroughs of EB:B and EB. And pretty much every other RPG I played for that matter. I really did enjoy it.

>> No.4956319

>>4956308
I unironically liked miiverse, it was so comfy turning on my WiiU and already feel like you're part of a community, and that was just the homescreen. It felt so alive with all the posts and drawings right there, not to mention going into any game and getting nice community posts, making you feel like you're a part of something, even when you're playing a single player game.
Meanwhile the Switch's Homescreen is dead and doesn't even have any music, or any ambience whatsoever. What went wrong?

>> No.4956325
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The last part of Battle with a Dangerous Foe, before it loops, really makes it for me.

>> No.4956327

>>4956325
I fucking love the sprites in this game

>> No.4956331

>>4956319
I reckon that Nintendo thought that Miiverse would have gotten way too out of hand with the shitposts had they put it on the Switch and decided to pull the plug. But i'll miss it, being able to discuss games with people halfway across the world. Which reminds me, does Mother have any fans in Europe?I know that the games weren't released there but I've seen a German translation of Mother 1 so they are definitely out there

>> No.4956341

>>4956325
I don't know what's on Teddy's shirt, but to me it always looked like it'd be the Atari symbol.

>> No.4956417

do you think ninten and ana ever made love?

>> No.4956468
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>>4956341
I think it's suppose to be part of his chest. On his model it's just a red tang top.

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>>4956287
>but I don't wanna wade through gay shota just to find good pics on Pixiv
Anon, you can disable nsfw images in the user settings. Even if you ever did want to find porn of something you can just go to your settings and turn it back on.

Even then the actual problem is that using the tag "MOTHER" gets you off topic stuff. "MOTHER2" and "MOTHER3" are fine but "MOTHER" is annoying.

>> No.4956515
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>>4956475
Thanks anon, have some fanart as a part of my gratitude.
Though I do have to admit that I've had wet dreams involving Mother characters, mostly Ness and the older women like Venus, Paula's mom and Electra, am I a degenerate?

>> No.4956524
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>>4956515
That's pretty fucking weird dude. I'm not going to sound all high and mighty, I jerk off to hentai all the time, but Mother is different. Mother is way too pure and innocent for me, even seeing lewds makes me disgusted. Maybe jerk off to /ss/ doujins or something, please don't jerk off to the Mother series though. I can't stop you but I highly suggest not doing that.

>> No.4956547
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>>4956524
I don't know, I also tend to feel that Mother is too pure for me to fap, I'm like this with other Nintendo series like Mario but something inside my head says "Hey, let's sexualize this cute little boy in the red cap!", the subconscious mind is strange

>> No.4956558

>>4956547
Sigmund Freud was right, we really always do think about dicks subconsciously.

>> No.4956570
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>>4956558
I don't know, I had those dreams after I did a lookup of Mother/Earthbound on Paheal so that might have caused them, particularly an image of the various girls in EB giving their panties to Ness.

>> No.4956594
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>>4956570
Also it makes me wonder: Who gets off to this crap? Not the straight shota stuff but the deeply disturbing shit like Valentine '88 and Morphine's Giygas and Pokey doujins

>> No.4956601

Just like your Mom, you never want to stop. Please don't push yourself so hard.

>> No.4956859

>>4956325
fuck those seagulls

>> No.4956860

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2mQc-S31Bo

>> No.4957579

My! You are that snot nosed Ninten who sat next to me in kindergarten!

>> No.4958884

I need am emulator that supports .sram for this game to continue where I left off. I got hit by the anti piracy wall in Elly

>> No.4958934

>>4958884
How the fuck did you do that? It's either toggled off in almost all romdumps, or most emulators detect and disable it automatically if it isn't.

>> No.4958935

>>4958884
What emulator are you using? You must have played it in some kind of emulator thus far

>> No.4958941

>>4958935
Nestopia on retropie. I used this patch which notable takes out the "zero" from the title screen

https://earthboundcentral.com/2014/02/earthbound-zero-improvement-hacks/

>> No.4958956
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>>4958884
the fuck kind of emulator are you playing on anon?

>> No.4958957

>>4958884
>>4958934
>>4958935
>>4958941
>>4958956

im retarded i meant, .srm but anyway i just had to change the file extension to .sav and any emulator on my pc could recognize it

>> No.4958961

>>4958957
but im still getting that anti piracy block on my pc

>> No.4958973

>>4958961
Get a different ROM my dude, your SRAM will transfer.

>> No.4959006
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4959006

>>4958957
>>4958961
Find a different ROM you mong.

>> No.4959242

Bear just grins and bears it.

>> No.4959285

>>4957579
Where is this line used? I don't recognize it.

>> No.4959391

>>4959285
It's from the one NPC customer in the Fast Food restaurant in mother's day

>> No.4959595
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>>4959285
NPC in the Burger joint in Podunk says it
I don't know why but it amuses me a lot, makes me wonder what Ninten did to that little girl

>> No.4960262
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4960262

Does using the run button make me a cheater?

>> No.4960264

>>4960262
No? It's just a speed up the game button, so you get the same amount of random encounters.

>> No.4960296

>>4960264
Alright, was just thinking that people would complain about me using it.

>> No.4960345

>>4960262
The game is nightmarishly slow without it. There's a reason the Japanese put all the improvements from the US version into the GBA version.

>> No.4960756

>>4959595
Sneeze all over here

>> No.4960818

>>4960756
Nah, I reckon that he put bugs in her hair or poured juice all over her dress, that's usually what boys do to girls in kindergarten

>> No.4961823

>>4960296
Why should you care about how others perceive you playing video games

>> No.4962434

My! What strange clothing you wear! Surely monsters will come after those clothes!!

>> No.4963408

Omega Borg used PK Freeze Ω!

>> No.4963423
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4963423

reminder that cute little boys are meant for cute little girls, shotafags can esad

>> No.4964985

EVE's the best party member, Juana's best mannequin, and getting to Ana before Lloyd is the best way to force yourself to reach a high level or not.

>> No.4965001
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4965001

This thread needs to fucking die already. It's been 2 weeks!

>> No.4965002
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>>4965001
There some kind of law that says threads can't last this long?

>> No.4965004

>>4965002
This thread really should be dead by this point, and all people are doing are discussing off topic things.

>> No.4965006
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>>4965004
Eh, most of what I see is at least about Mother, very little off topic discussion.

>> No.4965008

>>4951417
Hey dude, ever hear of the unreleased NES version? That was just a translation of the Famicom version, and was not the other. NES rom has not been dumped from the unreleased cart.

>> No.4967360

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65l1H1FGn8A

>> No.4967779

I don't know why but I find this game very therapeutic, playing it right now because my mind is in utter fucking turmoil because of my neighbors

>> No.4968073
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4968073

I legitimately enjoy Mother 1's gameplay more than Earthbound's

>> No.4968089

>>4968073
Honestly, there's a part of me that wants to agree with you but I think that the rolling health meter makes me like EB's combat a bit better

>> No.4969237
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4969237

>pokey gets a shit ton of build up in 3 but hes pretty much just taken down to a joke fight and thrown away
>this cunt who just showed up and left in the first two chapters without any development gets the spotlight
lame

>> No.4969258
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>>4953458
>and they make love
but thats not pure

>> No.4969268 [DELETED] 

>>4969237
I don't think anybody can deny that 3's story was an overdramatic clusterfuck compared to Earthbound desu
Also I feel the need to post this[/spoiler
Virgin Lucas
>cries like a little bitch
>dead mom
>gets bullied by older girl
>gets fucked with by Pokey
>scaredy cat
Chad Ness
>strong, independent boy who doesn't let his emotions take over him
>Mom is alive and well, cooks steaks for him
>has a perfect submissive girlfriend
>doesn't take Pokey's bullshit
>have bravery in the form of 5 swole birds

>> No.4969272

>>4969268
>>have bravery in the form of 5 swole birds
the jojo fag in me keeps having the mental image of ness's courage being a stand.

>> No.4969274

>>4969268
i wouldnt imagine paula as submissive.

>> No.4969278

>>4969237
I don't think anybody can deny that 3's story was an overdramatic clusterfuck compared to Earthbound desu
Also I feel the need to post this
Virgin Lucas
>cries like a little bitch
>dead mom
>gets bullied by older girl
>gets fucked with by Pokey
>scaredy cat
Chad Ness
>strong, independent boy who doesn't let his emotions take over him
>Mom is alive and well, cooks steaks for him
>has a perfect submissive girlfriend
>doesn't take Pokey's bullshit
>have bravery in the form of 5 swole birds

>> No.4969279

>>4969268
>Paula, master at Cryokinesis and Pyrokinesis
>perfectly submissive

>> No.4969284

>>4969274
Compared to Kumatora she's a lot more submissive

>> No.4969318 [DELETED] 

>>4969279
>but thats not pure
what's not pure about two young lovers making sweet passionate love?

>> No.4969324

>>4969258
>but thats not pure
what's not pure about two young lovers making love for the first time?

>> No.4969941

>>4969284
id say her and ness are more or less on the same level tbqh.

>> No.4970134
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>>4969324
fair enough.

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>>4969941
I know they're not here but I like to say that they made love to rile up the shotafags who post Nesscas, I tend to find Mother porn, straight or gay degenerate desu

>> No.4970156

>>4970143
honestly there is nothing degenerate about the scenario you posted.

>> No.4970159
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>>4970134
I know they're not here but I like to say that they made love to rile up the shotafags who post Nesscas, I tend to find Mother porn, straight or gay degenerate desu

>> No.4970162

anyone have any headcannons? about the series?

>> No.4970180
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>>4970162
Well this is probably common among other fans but I tend to think of Ninten as having a short tempered personality because of the Hippies talking shit about his mom

>> No.4970184

>>4970162
ness had severe trauma after the giygas fight, however, instead of letting his trauma consume him and trigger rapid PSI growth like with giygas, he was able to keep it in check with his freinds and magicant, something that giegue wasnt able to do.

>> No.4970214
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4970214

fugg it, just gonna post some fanart

>> No.4970218
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>> No.4970224
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>> No.4970231
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>> No.4970238
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4970238

dunno how the fuck this got in my Mother/Earthbound folder but it reminds me that Mario and Ness have a few similarities

>> No.4970302
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4970302

Teddy is the most based mother character.
prove me wrong.

>> No.4970414
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>>4970302
He gets injured.

>> No.4970506

>>4970180
I think this one is my favorite

>> No.4970805

>>4965008
I think you're very confused. A prototype of the NES version was bought by a collector and dumped by someone who begged him for it. That's what's on the internet today and also what Nintendo sells on VC services. It's not a fan translation, it's a completed work by Nintendo that wasn't ever released on NES cartridges officially.

>> No.4971086

Ninten, have you ever had feelings for the girls in your class?
Well no, a lot of them tend to spit in my face and call me names like booger boy, wheezenstein, but some of them like me and even have given me kisses, why are you asking?
Well there's this girl with brown hair named Nancy who sits in front of me in Math class, she's nice and cute but every time I talk to her I get butterflies in my stomach and stutter, why is that?
I don't know Lloyd, I'm not Siegmound Freudlein or whatever his name is, go talk to your guidance counselor!

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4972140

Darkness can never last too long if you laugh in its face

>> No.4972163
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4972163

Darkness can never last too long when you laugh in its face

>> No.4972613

>>4970302
the chad ness is a close second

>> No.4972952

>>4972613
Don't think anybody can deny that Ness is best boy desu

>> No.4972979

It's your average NES RPG, you grind monsters for 30 hours and then it just stops.

There's a version of the game which cuts the grinding down, I don't know if the one you're playing is that one, but you should probably get that one unless you like to grind for 60 hours instead of 30.

>> No.4974584

>>4970414
F

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>>4974584
Eh, the fourth party members in the Mother games have always felt a little tacked on to me, no real loss. That said, I think I like Teddy more than Poo and Boney, him and his gang are the coolest motherfuckers around, Valentine '88 aside

>> No.4975552

Duncan’s Factory has my favorite 8-bit song. The composers claim they were inspired by Pink Floyd - Welcome to the Machine for this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoK-MgBCdBE

>> No.4975581

>>4975552
I find it surreal that an American themed game would have music so heavily influenced by British musicians desu

>> No.4975906

>>4975581
they're all dirty gaijin to the nips

>> No.4975914

>>4975906
Nah Itoi and a lot of other Japs are huge westaboos, otherwise Mother and a lot of other games wouldn't exist

>> No.4976262

so what's your favorite enemy in this game? the hippy is mine

>> No.4976276

None. Huge fan of the Mother franchise (yes, i played Mother 1) and I dont wanna spoil. Have fun though!

>> No.4976370

>>4975581
he nailed it in that respect, considering how popular brit rock stars are over here.

>> No.4976420 [DELETED] 

>>4976370
It’s a mixture of different genres, American music is in there as well, particularly the Hippy/Teddy’s theme and the Flippant Foe theme andeven some classical sounding songs like Snowman and the Eight Melodies

>> No.4976440 [DELETED] 

>>4976370
t’s a mixture of different genres, American music is in there as well, particularly the Hippy/Teddy’s theme and the Flippant Foe theme and even some classical sounding songs like Snowman and the Eight Melodies
though I will say that 2/Earthbound is where the Brit rock sound starts to fade and becomes more ‘murikan, particularly treads into New-Wave and Film Score shit, Saturn Valley straight up sounds like it was composed by Danny Elfman to me

>> No.4976442 [DELETED] 

>>4976370
It’s a mixture of different genres, American music is in there as well, particularly the Hippy/Teddy’s theme and the Flippant Foe theme and even some classical sounding songs like Snowman and the Eight Melodies
though I will say that 2/Earthbound is where the Brit rock sound starts to fade and becomes more ‘Murikan, particularly treads into New-Wave and Film Score shit, Saturn Valley straight up sounds like it was composed by Danny Elfman to me

>> No.4976460

>>4976370
It’s a mixture of different genres, American music is in there as well, particularly the Hippy/Teddy’s theme and the Flippant Foe theme and even some classical sounding songs like Snowman and the Eight Melodies
though I will say that 2/Earthbound is where the Brit rock sound starts to fade and becomes more ‘Murikan, particularly treads into New-Wave and Film Score shit, Saturn Valley straight up sounds like it was composed by Danny Elfman to me

>> No.4976579

I beat Mother 1 for the first time a couple days ago, and I really liked it, even shed a tear at the end, and beginning Mother 2, it seems pretty good so far.
Is there anything I should know about Mother 3 though? Is it good, is it bad? Is it legendary or is it an overrated piece of shit?

>> No.4976594

>>4976579
It’s good, but I wouldn’t say it’s as good as Mother 1 or Earthbound, I in particular wasn’t fond of how far it strayed from the cozy Americana setting of the first two.

>> No.4976769
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4976769

Take a melody

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>>4976769
Simple as can be

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>>4976772
Give it some words and

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>>4976776
Sweet harmony

>> No.4976783 [DELETED] 

>>4976779
Raise your voices

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>>4976779
Raise your voices

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>>4976789
All day long now

>> No.4976815

>>4976262
The exploding tree is my favorite because it's so fucking bizarre. Same with basically everything in Magicant.

>> No.4976816

>>4976776
>>4976779
>>4976789
>>4976797
Fucking cringe.

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>>4976816
t. Giygas

>> No.4976823

>>4976262
barbots

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>>4976816
What's a matter, don't wanna listen to the lullaby your mommy sang to you as a kid?
Well T-O-O BAD!

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>>4976816
What's a matter, don't want to see the lullaby your mommy sang to you as a kid?
T-O-O BAD!

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>>4976797
Love grows strong now

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>>4976853
Sing a melody of

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>>4976860
Love, oh love
Welp, looks like I just emptied out my folder, off to Pixiv I guess

>> No.4976880
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The 8 melodies/Maria's lullaby had no context in the plot of Earthbound and shouldn't have been in the game.

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>>4976864
I would post mine but it's mostly M2 stuff, I posted all my good M1 stuff.
>>4976880
It doesn't have the plot significance, sure, but they worked fine in Earthbound.

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>>4976883
Earthbound was a mistake

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>>4976898
the only mistake was you anon.

>> No.4977170

>>4976880
>8 melodies have strong significance to giygas and have enough power to wound/kill him
>8 melodies are used as the power up for ness so he can kill giygas
made sense to me
also
>talking about plot inconsistencies when posting M3
lol

>> No.4977178

>>4969278
not to mention the terrible writing.
>important charecters that youre supposed to feel for are not developed or talked about at all
>brings in a bunch of nonsense about a dragon and needles to a largely sci-fi oriented series
>main character changes motivations for the game twice
>game spoonfeeds you the plot with TWO FUCKING TEXT DUMPS
i mean, the other two games were fine in story charecters and setting. what the fuck was up with 3?

>> No.4977182

>>4977178
the writing isnt terrible, theres definitely areas where it shines. but it does feel almost unfinished, like a bunch is missing. hence why they had to put in the text dumps.
perhaps that has to do with all the cuts from EB64?

>> No.4977473

>>4976883
M2/EB is fine, i don't think the mods will take the axe to it as long as it isn't lewd, handholding, hugging and kissing only

>> No.4977535

man, part 1 of mother 3 was amazing, especially the ending, and the rest jof the game ust never lived up to it. pretty disappointing

>> No.4977973

>>4976816
t. Giygas

>> No.4978086

>>4977535
the ending of 3 was probably the worst part for me. i never felt any connection with claus, being how hes pretty much not developed at all, so i didnt really care about the whole fight.

>> No.4978153

>>4978086
Also the fate of Pokey was extremely unsatisfying, at least to me, Lucas should've finished the job for Ness.

>> No.4978220

>>4978086
I liked it because that wasn't about the player, it was about lucas really and his conflicted self between saving everything and fighting his own brother he has known since he was young. still mad as shit the world quite literally ended though, that was retarded.

>> No.4978226

So, has anyone gotten any of the Mother 1 kids + teenager to Level 99?

>> No.4978236

>>4978220
the problems is that claus (and by extension his interactions with lucas) was so limited and underdeveloped it was hard to really feel anything. he left the story in the first part and then he just kind of showed up halfway through the story as the masked man.

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>>4978153
Yeah you're right, even though he literally explains he immortal and can't die Lucas should have somehow killed him.

Did you even play Mother 3?
>>4978220
The world was reborn, did you not move at the "END?" screen?
>>4978226
I've seen people do it but it's pointless, you can beat the game with everyone in the mid 30's.

In Valentine's Day you can talk to the BB Gang thugs repeatedly, I've seen people use them to grind to level 99.

>> No.4978267

>>4978261
to tell you the truth it's been a while since i've played 3, don't fault me for forgetting shit loke that

>> No.4978282

>>4978261
That is a good strategy. You kill off 2 of your party members to get better experience.
Well, there's another strategy utilizing EVE.
EVE is the best party member in the game, you can plow through enemies, starting at 25 by methodically picking the right moves before auto attacking everything at Level 50. Juanas and LastStarmen are your best friends for health restoration and PSI Stone gathering.
There's a handful of people who got Pippi to Level 99 as well. She can only have the Slingshot equipped, leaving only 262 in Offense by the time you're finished with her.

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>>4978267
I don't see how that's shit. Mother 3's writing is flawed but Porky isn't a part of that.
>>4978282
Interesting, I've never heard of that EVE method. As I said, I've never looked into myself as it seemed like a waste of time personally. It's like tbe T-Rex bat challenge, just something if you're a masochist.

>> No.4978338

my cock is sooo fucking hard

>> No.4978358

>>4978313
I didn't say it was shit, just that I had forgotten about it since it's been a few years since I've played the game

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>>4978358
Sorry, thought you typed "shit lore" in >>497826 and didn't realize you meant "shit like that".

>> No.4978378

>>4978313
I've failed to point out a few things with the EVE strategy. The limit to where you can bring EVE is the rope leading to the R7038XX fight (you can grind under the rope), right where the Sea Pendent cave is at or past the Mt. Itoi Lake. Give Lloyd the Franklin Badge, keep other Franklin Badge on Ninten. Finally, don't die.

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reminder that Ninten, Ana and Lloyd are the OG Niggas. Ness, Paula and jeff are cheap knock-offs

>> No.4978382

>>4978373
Eh, I misspelled it as "loke" so I can see why
Also thanks for the Ninty and Anny, gunna put that in mah folder

>> No.4978572

>>4978313
he is in the fact that hes so built up but then it doesnt amount to much. he just kind of fucks off.

>> No.4978835

>>4930814
I've beat this game a million times but never could get myself to beat Earthbound (Mother 2), even though it's a lot easier than Mother, it's just so slow it annoys me deeply.

>> No.4978846

>>4978835
I felt tired after reaching Scaraba because at that point in the game, you have two options:
1. Backtrack to Fourside to kill the Plague Rat of Doom and get the Carrot Key that comes with the Your Sanctuary; then get to Dalaam and kill Thunder & Storm.
2. Continue progression in Scaraba.

>> No.4978903

>>4978846
Isn’t it possible to kill both the Plague Rat of Doom and Thunder and Storm before you head to Scaraba?

>> No.4978913

>>4978903
Yep. You just have to not go to the sailor after Poo knows where to go next. Phone rings, and then the rest is history.

>> No.4978923 [DELETED] 

>>4978913
That’s actually the most efficient way to play the game: Go ahead and get the sanctuary bosses out of the away so you don’t have to backtrack.

>> No.4978928

>>4978913

That’s actually the most efficient way to play the game: Go ahead and get the sanctuary bosses out of the way so you don’t have to backtrack.

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>>4978903
>>4978913
>>4978928
Only a few sanctuaries like Giant Step, Rainy Circle, and Lumine Hall must be completed at certain points. For the most part they can be done whenever in whatever order.

You can even do really dumb shit like getting the Carrot Key but skipping getting the melody at Magnet Hill.

>> No.4979051

>>4978928
so basically; git gud?

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>>4978940
Eh, I still do them in order but before I go somewhere, Liliput Steps before Threed, Milky Well before the Moles and Dusty Dunes, Magnet Hill and Pink Cloud before Scaraba, you get the idea.

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>>4979051
Nah, that's just getting shit done my friend.

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>>4979051
Nah, that's not gitting gud, that's just being smart and getting shit done.

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>>4978379
Ana and Lloyd are smalltime compared to Teddy and Pippi.

>> No.4979187

>>4979116
I.E. getting gud.

>> No.4979203

>>4978379
>implying ness paula and jeff arent the improved versions of ninten ana and lloyd

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>>4979203
Ana is way better than Paula because PSI is way more OP in Mother 1.

>>4979072
>>4979116
>some of the art I've posted before is getting reposted
Feels good man.

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>>4979209
Huh, looks like >>4979072 got deleted for no reason. Odd.

>> No.4979237

>>4979209
>Ana is way better than Paula because PSI is way more OP in Mother 1.
really? it was more OP in 2 imho.

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>>4979237
The best version of PK freeze puts the enemy at 1 HP, and the best version of PK beam instakills. Plus buffs DOUBLE the stat you buff. Buffs are shit in Earthbound but damaging PSI is still pretty useful.

>> No.4979259

>>4930814
I recommend you investigate the story of the creation of the game. It's Beatiful

>> No.4979291

>>4979245
but PSI fire does damage to everyone in the row.
plus i like paula's personality a little more.

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>>4979291
There's PSI fire in Mother 1 too and I'm pretty sure it hits all enemies. Overall attacking PSI is mostley the same in Earthbound, except for not having stuff like the best PSI freeze putting enemies at 1 HP and PK Beam instantly killing.

Also buff PSI got nerfed hard in Earthbound, they're near useless in it.

>> No.4979756

>>4979259
Where can you read about that?

>> No.4979773

>>4979312
Are you sure? I could have sworn that it only does the row.
Also I didn't find buffs useless for the .ost part, but I guess I just used them differently.

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>>4979209
Hey, I'm just posting shit I've scrapped from the previous Mother threads on here and the ones from the archives, no need to thank me. But to get back on topic, Ana is arguably the most useful party member in the game, can't tell you how many times PK Freeze γ has saved my ass

>> No.4980813 [DELETED] 

Is the Plasma Beam enough to sustain Lloyd or is there a more powerful weapon I can get before I go?

>> No.4980823

Is the Plasma Beam enough to sustain Lloyd on Mt. Itoi or is there a more powerful weapon I can get before I go?

>> No.4980914

>>4980823
Plasma beam is the best weapon he can get, stock up on them because they can break.

>> No.4981023

>>4980914
you forgot the flame thrower.

>> No.4981025

>>4980823
BB gang members in Ellay carry flamethrowers, drop rate is 1/16.
They do an equivalent to PK Fire Gamma (multiple targets, high damage). Worth stocking up on, but it'll take a bit.

>> No.4981107

>>4980823
Plasma Beam's are multi-use PK Beam β. I wouldn't use them personally because the Air Gun, Lloyd's ultimate weapon, is enough and they're a waste of inventory space.
Flamethrowers are okay; PK Fire γ deals 100 damage; multi-use.
Super Bombs are very useful because of them being cost-free PK Fire Ω, at the cost of damaging Lloyd for around 40-50. Single-use.

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>>4980914
Here, have a Wario as my thank you

>> No.4981187

>>4981107
>is enough and they're a waste of inventory space.
it's not like your inventory is being used for anything else.
And the plasma beams do typically hit harder than the air gun, since lloyd's stats are awful.

>> No.4981373

this is the first mother thread on /vr/ that i didnt have to avoid like the plague.

>> No.4981428

>>4981373
why? I thought a couple of the last ones were pretty good.

>> No.4981441

>>4981428
they all devolve into shitposting and porn.

>> No.4981458

>>4970162
A lot of these are just stuff I know is absolutely false but I just think it makes things more fun.
Ninten and Ana are Ness' parents
Llyod is Dr. Andonuts
Ana's extremely terrifying because she has the strongest PSI of anyone in the series (pk fire omega)
Ninten is extremely stubborn and won't listen to anyone who has a different opinion. This explains his relentless pestering for Ness to take a break
Paula is usually really nice but has random psychotic episodes where she completely loses it and starts acting really aggressive and attacking everything and everyone. She never has recollection of having these freakouts though.

I can't really think of anything for the Mother 3 cast. They never really stuck out to me that much. I've been able to differentiate the Mother 1 and 2 people just fine despite how similar they are, but I just can't really understand the Mother 3 cast that well.

>> No.4981463

>>4981441
blame shotafags and gieguefags

>> No.4981472

>>4981458
>Ana's extremely terrifying because she has the strongest PSI of anyone in the series (pk fire omega)
i think cannon wise ness is the strongest behind giygas, given how PK rocking omega obliterates everything that isnt in the last stretch of the game.

>> No.4981482

>>4981187
At least Lloyd can SMASH attack with any weapon he has, unlike Jeff.

>> No.4981485

>>4981441
I don't remember people posting porn in the last threads.

>> No.4981487

>>4981472
Yeah I mean that's probably the case but, in reference to my other headcanons, I like the idea that Ness' mom is the most feared person in all the land.

>> No.4981492

>>4981482
jeff's guns can still smash IIRC, but you dont really need smash with the heavy bazooka since it never misses.

>> No.4981534

>>4981492
>jeff's guns can still smash IIRC,
only in the gba port. not in the original release

>> No.4981568

>>4981534
really? i could have sworn they could. although its still worth it imho since you get the heavy bazooka so early in the game.

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4981667

Let’s air those hot takes!

>Mother is the best game in the franchise
>There is no definitive version of the game
>The GBA version is sacrilege for fucking up the music
>Easy Ring ruins the entire game
>Sandhop’s script is a spectacular take on the original, and in some ways improves upon the original with better jokes and character tweaks
>Running ruins the pacing of the game
>The censored sprites are a direct negative and should be altered back to their original state whenever possible
>Tomato/the original script is darker and has a few poignent lines that outshine a few lines from Sandhop’s version
>The truncated Tomato script is preferable to the full one by virtue of it being on the NES version of the game
>Mother or Earth Bound is a better name than Earthbound Zero or Earthbound Beginnings
>The American extended ending is absolutely required

I love the game any way I play it though. Such a magical and beautiful experience. If I have to not be nitpicky, I go with vanilla EB0 every time. If i’m being autistic, I go for EB0 with uncensored sprites, a Mother title screen hack and no running.

>> No.4981713

>>4981667
>Mother is the best game in the franchise
i personally like 2 the best but i can totally see why some people would think that.

>> No.4981756

>>4981667
You don't have to be so elitist. In a game like this, the gameplay really comes second to the world and story. The easy ring simply makes the main focus of the game more accessible.

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>>4981667
>the censored sprites are a direct negative and should be altered back to their original state whenever possible
Do you have the same feeling about Earthbound? Would you prefer playing without censorship in that game when stuff like pic related got censored in the western release?

>> No.4981770

>>4981756
The struggle of the game makes everything worthwhile. Throwing away your meal to skip to dessert may sound tempting, but it’s ultimately hollow and wasted. Running is an argument, the GBA port is an argument if you prefer the Tomato translation, Easy ring has no argument. If you don’t want to play the game, watch a longplay and be done with it.

>>4981762
Earthbound’s English translation is neigh untouchable. I think it should be played as is on the cart.

>> No.4981773

>>4981770
i still feel like they should have left in the sound that happens when pokey gets beat by his dad, but other than that its fine.

>> No.4981780

Okay, what's your favorite mannequin, giant death robot, Starman, Borg, Bear, Dog/Wolf, Gargoyle, Barbot, etc. variant?

>> No.4981785
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>>4981780
Can’t beat the Starman.

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>>4981441
What are you talking about? There was some shitposting sure but I don't recall seeing any porn, the shotafags stick to /v/ mostly.

>> No.4982562

>all these faggots shitting on 3
Fuck off faggot all the other games are shit and 3 is the best jrpg to exist the only way you would say different is if you were too stupid to understand it

>> No.4982572

>>4982562
3's story is inferior to 1 and 2, go back to your Kumatora dakimakura

>> No.4982612

>>4982572
3s story and charecters were leaves ahead of 1 and 2 with thier shitty bland writing. You're probobly just so retarded you can't fathom the idea of a story deeper than "alien invades earth and he is bad" 3 is actually more complex than that

>> No.4982627

>>4982612
>muh anti-capitalism

>> No.4982629

>>4982612
The only likable character in 3 was Duster, Ninten Lloyd, Ana, Ness, Paula and Jeff may be blank slates but I sure as fuck prefer them to the little blonde wiener and pink haired tomboy

>> No.4982640

>>4982627
I'm not going to delve into this 1 vs 2 vs 3 shitposting, but just going to comment that you're really basic for thinking Mother 3 is "anti-capitalism". I've seen idiots also saying it's "anti-communism", lmao.
That's not the message, simple-minded dichotomy faggots.

>> No.4982645

>>4982629
You're a faggot that can't understand more in depth charecters. All of 3s cast was unique and heavily developed.

>> No.4982649

>>4982629
>Ninten Lloyd, Ana, Ness, Paula and Jeff
They're not tho.

>> No.4982660

>>4982649
Paula and Ana are far more compelling characters than Kumatora's trope

>> No.4982681

>>4982660
I'm not that guy. I'm just saying that those charecters are far from a blank slate. That's the beauty of 1 and 2, it uses NPCS and the world around them to give information and development of the charecters with small bits of easy to take in information instead of forcing it all at once.

>> No.4982702

>>4982681
Oh, sorry. But yes, I do agree that 1 and 2 are better at characterization via NPCs, that's actually how I pieced together that Ninten has a rather short tempered personality via the Hippies, the dog at Duncan's factory and the first encounter with Teddy

>> No.4982721

>>4982702
I'd say one of the best examples if characterization in the games is with Jeff, and how we find out about his relationship with his dad and how he hasn't seen him for so long, and how he wants to spend more time with him after the game to make up for that. Also how Ness is portrayed as courageous and reckless but is actually caring and fearful on the inside.

>> No.4982791

>>4981667
I just grind for hours. Ninten was level 30 before I left the zoo.

>> No.4982794

>>4982791
>Ninten was level 30 before I left the zoo.
what the actual fuck

>> No.4982804

What's wrong with Earthbound Beginnings?

>> No.4982807

>>4982794
I've only ever beaten the game with Ninten barely over 34, how much spare time do you have on your hands?

>> No.4982809

>>4982791
There are a few things to prevent the encounters. Mastering the art of carefully using Bread, teleporting, Deliberately crashing into walls while teleporting, and using the Onyx Hook.

>> No.4983161

>>4982804
Earthbound is babby's first rpg, so every hipster casual who gets into this series expects Mother 1 to be just as easy.

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>>4983161
>mother 1 is hard

>> No.4983239
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>>4983213
>"just as easy"
I hope that brainlet wojack you posted was of you

>> No.4983252

>>4983239
thinking either one is hard is retarded.

>> No.4983274

>>4983252
obviously you don't understand what a comparison is.

>> No.4983280

>>4983274
what is there to compare? theyre both piss easy

>> No.4983282
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4983282

>not enjoying all three games and acknowledging each has its own strengths and weaknesses

>> No.4983291

>>4983280
>theyre both piss easy
tell that to everyone who complains about mother 1 being "too hard"

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>>4983291
>a bunch of faggots who cant into rpgs is an actual gauge of difficulty
i bet you think youre hot shit for finishing 1, dont you?

>> No.4983318

>>4983308
nah, nah. It's more impressive to finish earthbound considering how trash it is.

>> No.4983372

>>4983282
I enjoy them all and know their flaws but that doesn't stop retards from shitposting

>> No.4983376

>>4983318
(you)

>> No.4983416

>>4981373
looks like you spoke too soon.

>> No.4983676

I’ve always wondered what Lloyd did inbetween Teddy taking his place and him saving his friends after the R0738 battle

>> No.4983749

>>4983676
fucked sluts are the bar, probably. and got a bitchin tank

>> No.4983765
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4983765

what do you think would have happened if 2 had a mid game three year time skip like 3?

>> No.4983767

>>4983765
Paula would be a teen mom.

>> No.4983826

>>4983765
Jeff would become addicted to prescription pain killers

>> No.4983838

>>4983765
Poo would probably actually become useful.

>> No.4983874
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>>4983749
Sounds like the plot of an /ss/ doujin, curse my perverted, degenerate mind for wanting to see it
>>4983765
I can imagine Ness and Paula forming a romantic relationship more than before, Jeff and Poo would probably remain the same.

>> No.4984003

>>4983676
Probably sat around in the corner of the bar looking at his feet awkwardly until he decided to get the old guy's tank.

>> No.4984074

>>4983765
The world and people would be a lot more fucked up since giygas would have more time to influence it. They would also be 1/3 of the way to destruction, according to giygas.

>> No.4984080

imagine if jeff had a shotgun

>> No.4984267

>>4984080
Shooting 25 bottle rockets simultaneously not enough?

>> No.4984562

>>4984080
Would he build a slambang pipegun, or would he build an actual receiver and repeating action with a magazine?

>> No.4984853

>>4984562
I think he'd build a machine gun if he had the stuff

>> No.4984867

>>4984080
He has a bazooka, why the fuck would he need a shotgun?

>> No.4984949

Moonside always reminded me of that spongebob episode where they go to rock bottom.

>> No.4985050

>>4978338
Creep.

>> No.4986145

>>4983826
>>4983767
Epic

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>>4982612
I know you're likely trolling but even then you cannot sit here and tell me that the writing of 1 and 2 are bland, fuck, they're arguably stronger in that way because they don't spoonfeed you like 3 does.

>> No.4986170

>>4984080
I thought Lloyd was the most likely to pull an Eric Harris in the series though.

>> No.4986174

>>4986170
you don't need to be a school shooter to carry a shotgun.

lloyd would be more likely though.

>> No.4986242
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4986242

>>4982612
I know you're likely shitposting but even then you can't sit here and tell me that 1 and 2's writing is bland, hell, they're arguably stronger than 3 in writing because they don't fucking spoonfeed you.

>> No.4986420

i dont know why, but i always thought the kids were going to die at the end of 2. anyone else get this impression?

>> No.4986601

>>4986420
You're supposed to think they wouldn't make it back but I had faith that they would all survive the events of the game.
I also had faith that the characters would survive in Mother 3. How foolish I was.

>> No.4986676

>>4986601
they did survive mother 3. the only one that died was claus.

>> No.4986679

>>4986420
how do you think the ending would have been effected if they did?

>> No.4986686

>>4986679
Not him, but the kids would be subjected to red swirls and a sample that was toned down to 17 semitones consisting of a Beach Boys song.

>> No.4986692

>>4986686
well thats what did happen. what do you think would have been changed?

>> No.4986693
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>>4986692
Well, then their souls would have to listen to the Beach Boys song for an eternity.

>> No.4987094

>>4984853
Far easier than it sounds, give him some pipes, a piece of barstock, some sheet metal, nuts and bolts, and some springs.

>> No.4987208
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4987208

so who is best boy?

>> No.4987747

>>4987208
Ness.

>> No.4987790
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>>4930814
get ready for best frenchie

>> No.4987930

>>4984949
moonside was great

>> No.4988003
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4988003

>>4987208
Ness of course.

>> No.4988386

>>4987747
>>4988003
This will never not be the correct answer. Best designed, strongest, and cutest out of the three.

>> No.4988453

You don't even need to go to Reindeer and Snowman, once you reach Union Station; only Spookane and the broken bridge to Yucca Desert.

>> No.4988543 [SPOILER] 
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4988543

>>4988386
Don't forget canonically the lewdest

>> No.4988697
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>>4988543
I already knew he was a dirty little boy, getting kisses from older women, staring at the elevator lady's hips, spending an unaccounted time in a cave with a cute, possibly curious girl, the naked sprite in the Japanese version just adds to it

>> No.4988775

>>4988543
Paula doms

>> No.4988776
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4988776

>>4988697
Wrong, him being naked in magicant shows he's a pure boy that's completely innocent.

>> No.4988778

>>4988697
Ness and Paula are pure

>> No.4988780
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4988780

God I love this pairing, it's so cute.

>> No.4988784
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>>4988778
As stated earlier, there is nothing more pure than two young lovers making love for the first time.

>> No.4989059
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4989059

tracy.

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4989424

>>4989059
shes a good kid

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>>4989059
Don't know what'd I'd do without her. She had the Hawk Eye after all and I was going to go in the Deep Darkness without it

>> No.4990065

>>4986242
>spoonfeeding
here we go with these meme arguments. I swear you video game babbys are so stuck in a box

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>>4990065
>meme arguments
Except it's true, you fucking mong.

>> No.4990271

>>4988775
>implying
with the amount of times she gets kidnapped? nah, she may have psi but she knows that she is nothing without ness

>> No.4990309

>>4990065
>3fag unironically thinks 3 fucking text walls isn't bad writing

>> No.4990980

>>4990271
>jeff is SEETHING

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4990989

>>4990980
>implying that thirsty sperg could ever have a chance at romance

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4991048

>>4990271
I don't know why it's always said in these threads that these girls are doms, you people should be well aware that cute little girls were born to be dominated by cute little boys.

>> No.4991057

>>4991048
ness is too nice to be a dom, paula doms him every time.

>> No.4991073
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>>4991057
I can't ever picture Nessie boy being submissive, even to Paula, with PSI Rockin' and all.

>> No.4991091
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>>4991073
I could picture it if Paula really wanted to be the dom, because he's a nice boy.

That said, he doesn't just have Rockin', he's also the tank, healer, and primary damage dealer. Ness only isn't the dom because he is considerate of other people who want to pretend to be the dom. But that's all it is: pretending.

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>>4991091
>>4991091
I dunno, I just find the idea that Paula out of all of the Mother girls would be the one who would have the dominant personality when you have Ana and Kumatora sitting right there who are far more dominant than her, the latter especially. Here, have a picture of the man who's responsible for the namesake of the series

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>>4991091
I dunno, I just find the idea of Paula being dominant absurd when you have Ana and Kumatora sitting there who are far more dominant, the latter especially. [/spoiler]here, have a picture of the man who's responsible for the name of the series[/spoiler]

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>>4991091
I don't know, I just find the idea of Paula being dominant absurd, especially compared to the other two girls.

>> No.4991118

>>4991108
>ana more dominant than paula
nigga what? did you not talk to her dad or the other NPCs in the town?

>> No.4991124

>>4991118
Aye, but she forces Ninten to dance with her, doesn't that strike you as dominant?

>> No.4991130

>>4991124
paula forces you to walk her home if you say no to her.

>> No.4991134

>>4991130
Still, these two aren't as dominant as Kumatora is.

>> No.4991136

>>4991134
well kuma is also a shota addicted psychopath.

>> No.4991137

>>4991073
>>4991091
i always imagined that ness and paula's personalities were pretty similar.

>> No.4991138
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>>4991136
>shota addicted
To Noill maybe, but she loves the cripple even more.

>> No.4991174
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>>4991137
All that matters is whether they love each other or not, because in the end, that's what the Mother series is all about.

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>>4991174
This I can agree with. Love is the most important thing.

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>>4991308

>> No.4991326

>>4991308
>>4991174
i once read a post that the mother series was about love: those who understand it, and those who dont.
i thought it was pretty accurate.

>> No.4991441

>>4991326
love is pretty gay. i just wanna smash aliens with a bat

>> No.4991980 [DELETED] 

>>4991174
>>4991326
And Ness and Paula do indeed love each other, as do Ninten and Ana, and nothing is more pure on this earth than the love of that acute little boy and a cute little girl share.

>> No.4992006

>>4991308
>>4991326
And Ness and Paula do indeed love each other, as do Ninten and Ana, and nothing is more pure on this earth than the love that a cute little boy and a cute little girl share.

>> No.4992550

>>4992006
aye

>> No.4993284
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4993284

It always bugged me that Ninten and his friends weren't mentioned at all in M2/EB to be honest

>> No.4993296
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>>4993284
It's not like they were famous after defeating Giegue, most people probably didn't even know that there was even an ayyy lmao invasion going on.

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>>4993296
I dunno, it would have been nice to acknowledge them, fame or not. Perhaps they could have had Lloyd as Andonuts assistant or something

>> No.4994121

This should be an EP.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAnaOWub49w
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT01ZLnHJMk
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0im4WngEzOg
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICggdMXYyyw

>> No.4994185

>>4994121
it reminds me of the residents almost

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4994309

>>4990309
Oh no
reading things
how terrible

>> No.4994449

>>4994309
>relaying things that could be easily shown in gameplay through massive nonsensical unskippable text walls THREE TIMES in the middle of the game
>good writing
pick one, you braindead 3fag.

>> No.4994949

>>4986420
is it bad that i think that would have been a better ending?

>> No.4995126

>>4994185
sounds damn close to smelly tongues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUxN4gyarEw

>> No.4995134
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4995134

So, what do you think they did while they waited for Jeff?

>> No.4995191
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4995191

Deep darkness was kind of scary.

>> No.4995226

>>4994309
>Cherry picks the text wall at the beginning of Mother 1 that is used to establish the setting

>> No.4995286

>>4995134
Probably just talked about their lives up to that point.

>> No.4995357

>>4995191
scary at how boring it was

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4995358

>>4994309
>>4995226
>four paragraphs
>text wall

>> No.4995417

>>4954647
Eh, I'm playing it right now and so far I've been enjoying it way better than the original rom.
The game has better exp and money drops, plus the characters don't join at level one anymore, so it's way less grindy.
The difficulty has been tweaked a bit, so the game is more forgiving but it still will fuck you up if you don't plan your strategy ahead.
Plus, so far Ninten has never been afflicted with Athsma, which is a fucking insta game over on the original game. (You still can get a cold if you speak with sick NPCs and still need the tank to beat the desert ruins robot, though.)

>> No.4995424

>>4930814
>>4930814
>>4930814
>>4930814
>>4930814
I wonder if OP ever played the game.

>> No.4995728

>>4995191
It reminded me of the swamp in Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake

>> No.4995753

>>4994449
Having to sit down and read things does not make it bad writing. "Show don't tell" is babby's first rule of writing that g*mer plebs like to wave around. The rule works because it makes you consider how to present info, but it's not some ironclad rule. You can both tell and show things too, which the Mother series does consistently throughout. That's why I said it was a meme argument in the first place. Leder's monologue could be conveyed by you walking around a spaceship and finding datalogues or whatever, but being told in a quiet moment is interesting in its own right. It highlights this reveal. You find out about this mysterious character. It also doesn't tell you everything.
Unskippable coffee breaks? That's fair, but really you shouldn't have to play this more than once. Cosy up in your bed with your Gameboy and read.
>>4995226
How the fuck is this cherry picking? It's a screen full of nothing but text, which you are obligated to read, and could be "conveyed through gameplay". Yet, you'd still read it because it's interesting. I couldn't be arsed to dig up more examples of reading in Mother 1 and 2, but the Mother series is so driven by text and specifially, Itoi's writing. More than half the fun in Earthbound is talking to people. If you don't like to read in the Mother trilogy, then I think we fundamentally appreciate very different things in these games.

>> No.4995890

>>4995753
>Having to sit down and read things does not make it bad writing.
It is if the information could have been shown in the game, which all of the text walls in 3 could have
Show don't tell is a writing rule for a reason, you know why? Because reading pages of exposition is fucking boring.
>but being told in a quiet moment is interesting in its own right.
No, it's not. Because it's not just one quiet moment, it drags on and on.and the reveal isn't highlited by anything because it's never brought up again.
3s writing is shit for these and many other reasons.

>> No.4995891

>>4995753
In 1 and 2 all information is delivered in small amounts in gameplay, not by giant walls of text.

>> No.4995913
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Who wants fan art?

>> No.4995917

>>4995913
only if it's not the same images posted in every mother thread

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>>4995917
Well, alright.

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>>4995920

>> No.4995942
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>>4995927
I'm just posting what I have, my folder as a whole is rather small

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>> No.4996103

>>4996092
>4096x4096
that's a big mole

>> No.4996109

>>4996103
I'd guess he's the 3rd biggest

>> No.4996113

>>4996109
that's mondo mole. not a guardian digger

>> No.4996115 [DELETED] 

>>4996104
See >>4991749

It's more difficult for disc based systems though.

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>>4996092
Is that the third strongest mole?
>>4996103
UUUU

>> No.4996174

>>4996120
>Is that the third strongest mole?
fucking christ. it's he mondo mole. do you faggots even play the game?

>> No.4996178

>>4996174
Is he the third strongest mondo mole?

>> No.4996183
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4996183

>>4996174
Don't get so pissy.

>> No.4996328

>>4995917
As a newcomer to these threads, I greatly appreciate the fanart. I don't really give a shit about Mother 2 or 3, though.

>> No.4996649

>>4996328
1 and 2 are shit. there is no reason why you would like them over any other JRPG. they are the bottom of the barrel that only entry level faggots like. 3 is the only one worth playing.

>> No.4996689

>>4996649
3 is an overdramatic clusterfuck and pales in comparison to the soul and emotion of 1 and 2, eat shit and die

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>>4996649
I'm well aware that this is bait but I feel the need to tell you that Mother 1 is not entry level the encounter rate will definitely scare away most newcomers to the genre. Mother 3 is a much better first JRPG, so much so that I actually gave it to my youngest brother to play as his second video game.

>> No.4996829

>>4996815
its not bait at all. 3 is the better game by every metric, be it story writing characters or setting.

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>>4996815
Don't even bother responding to him.
>>4996829
It has a shit soundtrack compared to the first two

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4996905

>not loving all three games

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>>4996905
Favoritism will never go away, sadly.

>> No.4996996

>>4996878
1 and 2s soundtracks were shit that had no real composure. 3s soundtrack had soul and emotion.

>> No.4996997

>>4996905
>this level of denial.

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>>4996997
?

>> No.4997008

>>4996996
This is some low quality bait
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65l1H1FGn8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cCIiE3oUkw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-uNMPU6GtA

>> No.4997010

>>4996996
>1 and 2s soundtracks were shit that had no real composure.

you're a madman.

>> No.4997014

>>4997008
those were the only three that was tolerable, from one, meanwhile 2 had none.

>> No.4997016

>>4997014

zzzzz

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>>4997014
Christ almighty man, you have some shit taste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3z9v3FFc9c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y36t1LOEdMz7BmEKWK_ko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w6siYk_Ge0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUce_1Mw6M8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIMuCudzgLM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRU5conSykg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLWWkeajPKE

>> No.4997873

>>4995417
Not an instant game over if you buy the inhaler. But you can just not get asthma, by not fighting the enemies that can give you asthma like the trucks.

>> No.4998104

Love how the game gets easier by learning Teleport to skip past the Swamp, and boost towards Ellay; even up to Mt. Itoi.

>> No.4998264

I like to think that Ness and Paula and Ninten and Ana slept together in the beds in the hotels