/vr/ - Retro Games

>it's another "/vr/ can only talk about style, not substance" thread

>>4996282
>Ranger X and Comix Zone
Great taste. I'm going add Bloodlines and Ristar to the pretty Genesis game list.

Is this where we compete in naming obscure but okay looking MD games?

My entry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNv6r5gMA-A

>>4996305
Forgot pic

>>4996286
>"I'm going to create imaginary scenarios that piss me off so I have a reason to post my otherwise-irrelevant anime girl pics"

>>4996305
Ristar is very pretty, and also a fuckin' great game. I've never played Bloodlines, though. Is it legit good, or is it just sought after because it's rare?

>>4996310
That's probably one of the worst screenshots from that game. Too few colors, mirrored clouds/sun. Ehhh.

Check this one out for comparison. Almost makes you think like they're not on the same platform, yet they are.

>>4996308
>obscure but okay looking MD games
I mean, in my opinion the Sonic games are some of the best-looking Genesis games by far, but it seems tiresome to give them any more credit.

>>4996282
Adventures of Batman and Robin
Earthworm Jim 1 and 2
Toy Story
Mickey Mania

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbEAyl7QX0U

>>4996319
And like, Sonic 3D blast is super-impressive, graphically. If you go back and look at the first releases on the Genesis, it's hard to believe it's the same hardware.

>>4996320
>Earthworm Jim 1 and 2
Totally. When I was a kid, I remember gaming magazines talking about how impressive the graphics were, but I don't think I truly realized how amazing until many years later. Shiny spoiled us.

X-Men 2 Clone Wars.
Environment art especially.

>>4996314
>I've never played Bloodlines, though. Is it legit good, or is it just sought after because it's rare?
It's great! Beats IV imo

>>4996329
Holy damn, that's pretty smooth.

Not exactly an obscure game, but I think it's pretty

>>4996320
The Adventures of Batman & Robin unironically looks better than most 2D PS1 games.

It's not a super looker or anything but I always thought Revenge of Shinobi had a nice palette.

Pulseman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtoBY2S2zzo

Battle Mania: Daiginjou

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEF6oyZI-bA

>>4996363
Agree. I always loved the gritty and realist palette and graphics. Revenge of Shinobi and E-Swat were earlier games where artists really took advantages of the limitations of the console.

Other pretty games:
- Dynamite Headdy
- Gunstar Heroes
- Sonic 1 & 2
- Sega Disney trilogy (Castle of Illusion, Quakcshot...)
- Aladdin
- Earthworm Jim 1 & 2
- Flashback
- Shinobi III
- Streets of Rage 1 & 2

>>4996308
I mean not necessarily, but I'm sure gonna
(is robocop vs terminator obscure? legit question)

Feast your assholes on this
https://youtu.be/AbEAyl7QX0U
Very much a style over substance game imo. So goddamn pretty.

>>4996674

Vectorman I+II

Do you guys who play on original hardware use composite or svideo/RGB? Mine is currently hooked up with RGB SCART, it's very nice, but holy shit the dithering fucks my eyes. How is composite on the Genesis? I literally never tried it with that, since I completely missed out on the whole 4th gen, only got a MD last year.

>>4996329
Cool graphics, but that music is awful.

>>4996286
>it's another anime poster with a negative, overblown opinion thread

Dumb anime poster.

>>4996282
Didn't Ranger X break the colour limitations of the Mega Drive?

Always though this game looked great. Really nice animations.

>>4996282
The Ecco games are both really impressive, both in design and their use of colour.

>>4996358


Beyond Oasis is a good one.

>>4996282
JP: Rampage Edition doesn't win huge points for design but some of what it does looks incredible. Check out all the scrolling in this level.

>>4996718
God, I loved this and the other JP platformer.

>>4996318
Why don't you post a better screenshot of that game?

not sure what this game is called. never bothered to look it up, but it competes with snes rpgs easily.

otherwise i'd say batman and robin takes the cake

>>4996805
>shills Pier Solar
>pretends he doesn't even know what he's talking about

>>4996895
it's not pier solar retard. some tiawanese game

what are the best platform games other than Castle of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse?
I think Castle of Illusion is good looking and it's a fucking 1990 game
Very few devs could make good looking games for the genesis in the years 1990/1991

>>4996805
>>4996908

Xin Qigai Wangzi?

>>4997326
>I think Castle of Illusion is good looking and it's a fucking 1990 game

i don't think it's a technical marvel but you can tell a lot of care went into its visuals and music. it's one of the most delightful platformers.

>>4997329
are there more games like this on Genesis/MD? I only played Pulseman and Comix Zone and they are average

is pic any good?

pic related has to be seen in motion to be understood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H-qskYLiAE
And heard actually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70DLsXjGE4I

alien storm - some of the early games had a nice arcade style palette but didn't try to do too much so you don't end up thinking that it would be better with more colours like with something like primal rage, the graphics are perfectly matched to the machine.

>>4996686
composite is horrible on genesis because it had these weird rainbow artifacts and also ringing artifacts which make text look particularly bad, you just have to accept the dithering like you would accept the blurryness on the n64

>>4996425
e-swat had some nice levels later in the game but the first 2 levels gave me a bad impression at first

The Thunder Force games look incredible at times.

>>4997623
Yes, the first E-SWAT stages weren't that great, although the 16-bits futuristic city of the first level had its charm. One of my favourites was the laboratory, because with only a few colors, they succeded in creating a very mysterious and menacing atmosphere (the music helped too).

Toy Story, surprisingly enough.

Wolfchild
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfFXLnvgPEs

>>4997620
>>4996363
Swear to god, next someone's going to claim Altered Beast is good looking. Fucking garbage, that's how it looks.

>>4996686
What tv do you use? I also use rgb scart with a 720p flatscreen, it looks good if you turn sharpness to zero.

I never liked using rgb on a crt, i always go for composite for everything but Genesis/Mega drive Composite looks horrible even on a crt.

>>4997673
Fuck you it looks great you blind faggotron.

>>4996318
Mr. Nutz looks even better on the SNES (slightly different prettier backgrounds and palettes + mode 7 animations), but is missing the extra music and passwords. It has the easier JP port too.
The GBA version is the most feature complete (restored deleted levels) but is shitty. (Euro devs did a lot of restored versions on the GBA, I wish the completed but unreleased Aero the Acrobat 2 port would leak some day)

Yet despite all of this, I still prefer the genny version.

>>4996282

>>4997649
True

>>4996282
Vectorman

>>4998134

>>4998125
more like this?

>>4996686
Composite or RF. I emulate now and turn on composite shaders. It's the only way to make the vertical stripes and checkerboards display as the transparencies they're intended to be, and the smoothing of everything else is nice. Turns staircases into curves :-)

>>4996674
Was playing this just the other day and thinking that it looked really nice. The graphics aren't technically impressive, but the game has a very consistent and pleasing style.

>>4998129
lol, this is exactly the bit I was thinking of.

Both Ecco 1 and 2

>>4997326
I find Revenge of Shinobi gorgeous.
Also, in 91 there's Quackshot, which is even prettier than Castle of Illusion.

>>4998187
You cant compare composite shaders to the real composite signal, real genesis composite makes everything look like a fuzzy ballsack. Especially text becomes in some cases unreadable.

>>4999960
I have an actual Genesis and I like its games to look like that.

This shader config is working pretty well and passes all my test cases.

>>4999960
There's usually a few composite captures of popular games on speedrun.com :-)

>>4998315
What about Fantasia?

Earthworm Jim

>>4996282
flink easily

>>4999960
While true, games used to look fuzzy and shitty we can now emulate and see everything perfectly. It was worth it.

>>4999960
>Especially text becomes in some cases unreadable.
examples or stfu

>>4999980
Skip this one.

Ecco 2 and The Lost World both use the Shadow-mode for shading (and dither to mask the high contrast) instead of using it for... uh, shadows.

it's very impressive

>>4998125

>>4996363
Shinobi 3 is superior in literally every way.

>>4996718
>Check out all the scrolling in this level.

>>4998134
Does anyone have a 60fps gif of the Nightscape levels background?

>>5001510
This level.

The lightning in the background is one of the simplest yet prettiest effect on the entire console. It's just palette animation but god damn does it look great.

>>4996286
>upset anime poster does it again

>>4996686
Composite is how people would have played it back then, and it looks fine on a CRT (never use composite with an HDTV). It is a very fuzzy image with heavy color bleed.

>>4996318
I disagree, I find the simplistic look of that level visually pleasing.

>>5000130
holy shit, highly underrated post

>>5001469
I disagree. Shinobi III graphics are probably "better" but the style of both games is completely different. Revenge goes for realism and a slighty B-series look, while Shinobi III is a much darker game that goes for a cyberpunk and futuristic theme.
I like both games a lot, but each one has its own distinctive flavour.

>>4996314
>>4996305
mah niggas. ristar has some very impressive parallax scrolling.

>>5001469
to be fair shinobi 3 was on a much bigger cart so there was more space for extra detail

>>5001510
>>5001513
I found this one.
Vectorman is one of the prettiest games i've seen. But it only looks good in motion

>>5001320
>shadow-mode, dither
I didn't know the MD/Genesis VDP had these features. I mostly play around with Nintendo shit. Interesting.

>>5002392
Shadow and highlighting modes. The genesis Sonic games since 2 use it in debug mode actually to display low/high sprite priority tiles, and in a practical usage the Sonic 3 special stages use it for shadows. Dither isn't anything special though; it's just an art trick on the Genesis.

>>4996343
Hell yes. Soundtrack is pretty sweet too.

No Story of Thor? The game looks like Wind Waker!

>>4999980
We don't talk about Fantasia.

>>5001469
Shadow Dancer is better than both.

>>4996686
RGB->OSSC->OLED. Even on a CRT RGB looks great although composite has its charms.

>>5002865

>>5002865
It runs at half speed though.
>>5003063
>RGB->OSSC->OLED
Good way to ruin an RGB image.

>>5003334
If you say so, anon.

>>4996698
My nigga. I always play this game from time to time. The levels in this game are so pretty and very detailed. My favorites are the library and the candy levels.

>>4997623
What the fuck cables are you people using that give you these supposed "rainbow artifacts"? I've used the RCA cables since day one and I've never seen that shit.

Beyond Oasis / The Story of Thor.

>>5002374
Not bad but I'd prefer one where he just stands in one place in a loop while the lightning goes off. It would emphasize the effect only.

>>5005593
This can't be real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWVmPtr9O0g

They're not games, just demos, but I highly recommend checking out the Titan Overdrive demos if you just want to appreciate what the system is capable of.

>>4996282
Red Zone.

>>5005848
sega saturn doing 2d was basically anime man

>>5006789
That's a Genesis game

>>4996282
ToeJam & Earl 2

>>5006930
Shame this wasn't more successful.

>>5005593
does beyond oasis require you to understand the language? I've been wanting to buy a copy off this guy, but it's apparently in German

>>4996336
The Saturn version is definitive Blast unless there is a pc version or something.

>>5005848
It's also a great game to boot. Would probably be a 10/10 if not for a large portion of the music being dreadful.

>>5005862
That was highly enjoyable. Thanks anon!

>>4996282
sega cd count? silpheed is pretty gorgeous

>>5003942
It's on the model 1 versions honey

>>5006941
Yeah, people wanted it to be like the first game, even though it was a fun as fuck platformer.

Excellent music too.

>>5006947
It got an English release, silly.

>>4996286
>I don't need to talk about style, there is no such thing as style, just lack of substance, yes, this is the way, heheh hee hee hee =3

>>5005593
>>5005848
It looks like mock up of an artist who doesn't understand the limits of actual retro consoles, but it's an actual game.

>>5006789
The Saturn sequel doesn't even look much better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfhnHZWFxX4
And it's got a weird clone game on the PSX (a lot of Sega titles do).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MDSo06hup4

>>5007348
it did, but this one's on offer for pretty cheap

>>5007147
That is a shame to hear.
I have always been intrigued by it in screenshots.
Now watching clips I can hear the not great music and sound effects it's a little disappointing.

>>4996286
>it's another anime shitter ass pulling some barely applicable sweeping generalization post

>>5009217
I still would highly recommend playing it despite the mostly poor soundtrack and being a little short. It has great bosses, fun combat, badass element friends, and of course awesome visuals.

>>5006968
Nah, Genesis had the superior soundtrack.

>>4996363
Were there nun enemies in Revenge of Shinobi? Genuinely don't remember that.

>>4996282
The Adventures of Batman & Robin

>>4996686
I use composite though the 32x which looks like the best option to me

Battle Mania 2

If only game freak wasn't enslaved to the Pokemon franchise

Boom pow pow pew pew pew

>>5009095
>It looks like mock up of an artist who doesn't understand the limits of actual retro consoles, but it's an actual game.
Ironically, what it actually demonstrates is how all the other artists didn't understand the capabilities of the console or how to make proper use of them.

How it was even possible I don't know

I'm bringing this up every chance I get

Flying kawaii witch boos blowin shit up

>>5009720

>>4996336
>it's hard to believe it's the same hardwar
Well techincally, the cartridge added more CRAM or something like that.
>>5006968
>pc version
There it one. It's basically the Saturn version with different special stages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF5uKs8mz8I

>>4996282
And you didn't even show how gorgeous it is in motion

>>5011905
That gif doesn't exactly convey it either

>>5011737
I cannot stand to play this game for more than an hour or two. naturally, that means I've never gotten past the first level.

>>5011939
For me it's that flying stage in level 2.
So goddamn long and boring.

>>5011905
>posts a 5fps gif
wow so gorgeous

>>4998141
Mah nigga, how come nobody talks about this hidden (((jewel)))

>>5011359
but they aren't

>>4996282
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>>4998148
Seeing these all together really makes me realize how devs loved to try and make everything on the MD edgy and dark. Maybe they thought that would make everything seem mysterious or intense.

>>5013429
They are. That was a complete fluke - they made that game in about 5 minutes while miyamoto wasn't looking.

>>5013498
Smaller color pallet made for games overall having higher contrast.