/vr/ - Retro Games

>90s
Pretty good
>early 2000s
Meh.

The games were different, but it was basically the same as it is now. Play games, have fun.

>>4989112
obvious under age.

honestly in my opinion 90s and 80s are where it's at. although alot of newer games are better in almost every way, it was incredible when games like Unreal, Quake, Super Mario 64 and other amazing games were released. some of the techniques used were also very interesting, such as in Doom. Although it wasn't technically a real 3d game, it really appeared as it did. nowadays with AAA games, they lack groundbreaking new ways of doing things (not to say there hasn't been that), and it's up to indie or smaller developers to make cool features that would become later adapted.

>>4989139
sheesh i'm just interested

90s was fucking phenomenal. Exponential progression on the technical level every six months. I'm glad I got to experience it.

>>4989121
fpbp

>>4989173
>90s was fucking phenomenal. Exponential progression on the technical level every six months.
The 80s did too. You think technology stood static for ten years?

late 90's/early 2000's lan parties/internet cafes were fucking fun as fuck after 10pm

In the early 2000’s there were a lot of Internet cafes popping up in Vancouver.

What the idiots who ran them didn’t realize is that you could snag the CD key for the counter-strike game etc through the command prompt so we would go to new cafes and steal keys for all our friends.

What was fucked up was some of the bigger cafes literally did not give a fuck. Some with like 30-40 computers would let people smoke weed inside, cigs etc.

One time I remember owning in CS and some little Asian gang banger stood up and said “Who the Fuck is (insert my gamer tag here)”

Stood up and looked at the skinny little prick and he sat down as quick as he stood up lol..

Internet cafes were fun for a very short time, fell off quickly

>>4989183
>T-the Eighties were cool too!
At what point did he say anything about the Eighties being bad? Maybe he was just too young to fully experience them.

What I don't get is being a kid now every game is a reference to something else and you never experience how it all began.

Take Smash Bros for example. When the first came out I got all the references and had played the original games from where the characters are from.

Being a zoomer now you would play Smash Ultimate and have to wiki all the lore and origin of each character and level.

You wouldn't have a personal connection to anything.

>>4989112
>What was gaming like in the 90s and early 2000s?
LAN parties is the only real difference in my experience. Everything else was the same.

>>4989173
This is pretty accurate for the 90s, or mid to late 90s anyway. New incredible games were coming out all the time. Maybe what >>4989209 says might be true. Gaming was a bit frustrating for a kid in the 80s who didn't have hundreds of dollars to invest in it. Consoles were vastly inferior to arcade hardware and (for me at least) computer gaming was an exotic thing, completely out of reach and represented only by amazing pictures in magazines and on the back of computer game boxes in stores. The early 90s also felt a bit too rich for my blood with the CD add-ons running $300. But then the for real 5th gen consoles rocked it for many years and computer gaming wasn't even that elite by comparison until the very late 90s when 3D accelerators started to appear. Computer gaming was VERY expensive compared to console gaming for the entire duration. I didn't even realize how cheap PC gaming had gotten until I was seriously considering which 8th gen console to buy and realized the most sensible answer was none, to just build a PC with matching or better specs

The 90's were absolutely incredible from end to end, honestly. Something new and mindblowing appeared every 6 months. Every year you'd see something you thought was impossible. It felt like there were no limits.

...And then over the course of 2000-2005 the dream slowly died.

Things got more incremental. The period of bold exploration was over.

>>4989112
It was pretty horrible. You would go to a store and buy a game, and then play it. Plus, the devs would put out expansion packs that were really inexpensive and were almost as much content as the original game. The worst part is that there wasn't enough marxism and LGBT agendas in games. The weirdos who worked at these studios used to expect people to "enjoy" playing things that are "fun."

I feel lucky and grateful I happened to be a witness to that whole breakthrough era.

>>4989905
>...And then over the course of 2000-2005 the dream slowly died.

It died to me when 3dfx shut down.

only thing I miss are the mmorpgs. Asheron's Call, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, even the first few months of WoW

early 2000s was DDR xbox lan parties and skateboarding for me. pretty great.

'member when there were several graphics card on the market and if you had the wrong one for that one particular game you wanted to play you were sometimes completely fucked?

same for sound cards

so that's one thing I do NOT miss, nowadays you can just go for an Nvidia or an ATI/AMD thinking about price/performance instead of specific graphical features and be sure you'll run the game you just bought

>>4989112
I had snes genesis psx and ps2 consoles and played at real arcades.

>>4989975
>'member when there were several graphics card on the market and if you had the wrong one for that one particular game you wanted to play you were sometimes completely fucked?
didn't last long
Riva TnT pretty much fixed it

>>4990004
>Riva TnT pretty much fixed it

More like a bunch of companies going bankrupt fixed it.

>>4990025
seriously though, I didn't see a single point in buying some Rage 128 or G200 or let alone Savage 3D after TnT got out (3Dfx is slightly another matter)

>3mb ram
>played AOE, SimCity, GTA2, all the Maxis shit, Roller Coaster Tycoon, tons of DOOM clones, random offbeat shit like the KOTH minigames and NFK: Santa's Gone Postal
For such an old piece of shit it gave me many hours of entertainment. I dug it out of storage recently and have been trying to resurrect it as a project, it turns on but the screen and base are not getting along well.

>>4989760
now they can just emulate (or buy on eshop) the games that X character was from

>>4989112

The 90s:
-Pc and consoles were separated, different worlds, with their own native genres and particularities.
-Every single console or platform on the market had an huge library of exclusives, making (almost) all of them wothwhile and unique.
-Production costs were extremely less inflated, allowing developers to take risks, to be unique and experimental, and to make tons of games at a very rapid pace.
-There was no such huge gap between AAA games and lower budget productions, there were tons of mid-level experiences looking just as fine as the other ones.
-Arcades allowed people to experience games technically years ahead of what they could play at their homes.
-Almost no internet, just monthly magazines to read, no constant and useless information overload.

Early 2000s was the best timeline. See, we were still playing the best of 90s games, but on PCs that could run them much better.

>>4990141
Games in the 2000s were mostly shit. Also it started a lot of cancerous practices that would snowball into what we have to deal with currently.

>>4990136
The early 2000s
-Like the 90s but with more internet, better graphics, dying arcades, dying pc market, less games, less experimentalism.
Still good overall, but it slowly started to turn into the nightmare that gaming post-2006 became.

>>4989905
the 2000s were the age of broadband, mp3s, pirating downloads, cell phones, smart phones, classic youtube, and the dawn of social media cancer
it was a pretty wild decade as well, but I cant name a single noteworthy invention from the last 10 years though
'87 here btw

>>4990163
That really started halfway through the decade, coinciding with the 360 launch in 2005. Early 2000s were just the 90s with better internet.

>>4989208
>bigger cafes literally did not give a fuck
hue here in montreal selling drugs and a bunch of other illegal shit was the norm at a few places fights were also common DOTA was srsbizness

>>4989139
there are people posting here legally that were born in the year 2000.

Free games were harder to come by. The freemium model didn't exist yet, Flash was in its infancy, and the games made in it were often more like toys. ROM archives were a mess of webrings and fake sites and CLICK THESE 14 LINKS TO ACTIVATE THE DOWNLOAD BUTTON and the emulation quality was barely on the good side of playable (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHoeQT4b0Ls).). I spent a lot of time playing shit like Elf Bowling and trawling through Download.com and AOL Games for demos.

>>4990495
Well, it's nice to get some perspective from third worlders too.

90's >80's >00's

>>4989121
Early 2000s was still good, fuck you anon.

>>4990712
I can agree with this statement, it was about halfway into the decade that things really went off a cliff.

>>4989814
Oy vey, it's very cheap to use a full priced rental platform, don't forget to mutilate your child's genitals.

>>4990803
t. person that probably pirates shit

>>4990786
2007 roughly. ps2/xbox/gamecube was still great. Not to say there weren't good games afterwards, but things changed.

>>4990837
7th gen was simply the darkest age of gaming (and the golden age of handheld gaming, if you were exclusively into that, to be completely fair), and the beginning of everything wrong with it, especially thanks to Microsoft.
The Japanese industry died, everyone that wasn't EA/Ubisoft/Activision/Bethesda/Rockstar started to fail, extremely simplified and consolized version of Pc genres became dominant, DLCs became the norm, paid p2p online became popular, we had casualshit like Wii/Kinect/Move aimed at non-gamers monopolizing every E3 for years.

>>4989112
>90's
>buying cartridges in back alley stores for your Famicon clone bought in Yugoslavia
The 90's have a special place in my heart.

>>4989112
Did the 90's have Company of Heroes?
Did the early 2000's have Company of Heroes?
No? Then they were both shit tier. CoH is best game.

>>4989769
>LAN parties
Imagine the smelle.

>>4989112
Japanese domination
It was amazing and the import market offered some great stuff.

>>4990869
>japanese industry died
Lol,k

>>4990869
While I could say "thank god we don't have shit like kinect or motion controls to worry about" I forget that VR is the hot new meme.

>>4991148
Based

>>4989112

I remember playing a lot of DOOM on LAN in the late 90's.

The games themselves were god tier, the GAMING itself was dogshit for me at least. Computers were advancing so fast that you could buy a computer and 8 months later not be able to run the newest games. It was also very common to buy a game that matched your specs but have it not work on your computer due to bugs or hardware mismatches.

I was a poor sheltered kid in a rural town. My parent's didn't let me own a console. There were no internet cafes, cool gamer stores (the nearest funcoland was 20 miles away, Wal-mart and staples were where you bought games) or "gamer circles" around. I had a PC and was always frustrated with the amount of shovelware and broken bullshit I had to sit through. I was always jealous of my PS1 owning friends. They just popped in a disc and it worked.

Around the release of the PS2 a lot of really great PC games started to end up in bargain bins for 5-10 bucks each and could easily be run on modern systems. That is when I really began to appreciate how good things were. I'd ride my bike 10 miles to the gamestop (I moved) and buy like 5-10 games from the PC bargain bin. I got stuff like Delta Force 2, Star Wars Dark Forces II, Diablo, Baldurs Gate, Half Life, Counterstrike, Rainbow Six Rogue Spear, Operation Flashpoint, Unreal Tournament. That's when I had my gaming Nirvana and but by that time most kids didn't know what the fuck those games were about. It wasn't until I was in high school that I met someone who played the original Half Life.

The thing about that time is that if you dind't live in a big city you were SOL, but you got to see a bunch of faggy hipsters in leather jackets on TV who wouldn't let you forget how cultured they were.

>>4990805
I don't even understand wtf he's implying day-sue

I liked the games but I don't miss the hardware.

>>4989112
True hardcore gamers played consoles and coin-op only. PC at the time was mostly for word processing and spread sheets. Even the “best” PC games such as Commander Keen and Duke Nukem were utter trash compared to games on the consoles and in the arcades.

>>4989769

Had a hell of a lot of fun at LAN parties, dragging all our computers out.

Imagine playing Quake until 4:30 in the morning while drinking Surge. That was pretty much my experience, and it was awesome.

So basically, the first computer I ever used was our C64. This was 1994-early 95 so the thing was a decade old at that time. I'd play Astro Grover, Ernie's Big Splash, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and a couple others although I didn't really have a clue what I was doing with some of them.

Then we got a Micron 486/66 in early 95 and that was our main computer for four years. I did a lot of stuff with that including Math Workshop, Robert E. Lee: Civil War General, first time I played X-COM, and my brother had some stuff too like Mr. Potato Head Saves Veggie Valley.

The next PC we got was a used Pentium 133Mhz in 99 and that was the first computer we had Internet on. The first thing I did with that was install Civil War Generals 2 and we also ran Total Annihilation, Civ2, Deer Avenger, Tomb Raider, and some others.

>>4991324
Based AND redpilled. Nobody played games on PC in the 90s. It didn’t become the meme that transformed gaming into the arid wasteland it is today until the mid-00s at least.

>>4991336
>half the shit he cited were literal children's games

>>4991324
Whose leg are you trying to pull? Duke Nukem is a fine game and was best on PC. Early 1990s you may have a point, but PC was excelling at FPS and strategy games. Starcraft, Everquest, Quake, hell Quake 3 Arena were all around before the year 2000 while OP is looking for up to early 2000s. Hardcore played consoles only? I hate PC elitists as much as the next guy but be reasonable.

Technology did advance fast in the 90s, this was true, but it did in the 80s as well and major advances happened every year.

Why didn't you love me, America?

>>4991350
But man, the Apple II was ten years old by 1987 yet still well supported and there was plenty of new software still available. I could not conceive of using a PC from 1987 in 1997 and the idea of still buying new software that ran on such a machine would be comical.

>>4990869
>>4991154
The quality of Japanese corporate games went downhill while the doujins became better if you knew where to find them. People also stopped digging through the freeware sections that brought us Cave Story, La Mulana & various others, so if anything was above average, no one cared cause lazy idiots would rather look through Steam, and fuck knows half the idiots here can't use a search engine to look for ROMs, so they have to make numerous threads begging for download links.

>>4991361
The Apple II was also very outdated by 1987 and nobody but schools were really buying them at that point. Also there were a lot of evolutionary changes along the way. An original unmodified Rev 0 Apple II from 1977 could not run stuff that came out in the late 80s.

>>4990163
>Games in the 2000s were mostly shit.

Fuck you, 2000s was the last good gaming generation. Technological progress finally became standardized so you didn't have games only working on 1 specific videocard out of the 20 on the market, and you had several of the best 90s devs releasing their magnum opus (before disappearing forever). The standardized hardware meant that you could play the early 00s games in the late 00s or even today, but at 5x the graphics settings.

Even on consoles, the PS2 had some of the best titles and did not suffer from DLC fest yet. In fact even the early X360 generation was good, because DLC was just another word for "expansion packs", a concept widely understood and important on the PCs. Plus many of the good games of the generation got PC ports, or can be emulated now.

The 2010s however had nothing good. DLCs turned into season passes and microtransactions, all games are now sequels of the exact same titles, and they are all supercharged with SJW bullshit and political commentary. I suppose the one good thing is that indie titles made a major comeback.

>>4990869
7th gen was fine up until they started forcing the Kinect bullshit.

DLCs were always the norm. Remember Armageddons Blade, Firestorm, Yuri's Revenge, Brood War, The Sims, and so on?

We just called them "expansion packs".

>>4991324
That's probably why having a port of Doom on a console was considered a status symbol at the time, right?

>>4991409
>progressed from PS2 to 360 console-wise
>got fucked hard by RROD
>abandoned modern consoles and never looked back
No regrets.
got a free Wii and cracked it, I've played a few games but wouldn't have paid for it

>>4991367
>the doujins became better if you knew where to find them.

Exception is still the most unique shmup I have ever played. And it still brings any PC to its knees on its maximum difficulty (tens of thousands of moving objects, with accurate physics of kinetic motions being one of your primary weapons in the game).

>>4989121
*sips monster*

>>4991409
>I suppose the one good thing is that indie titles made a major comeback.
for every one good indie game there's like 1001 shovelware shit.

I'm not trying to say one is better than the other but acting like something is better because it's indie is just straight up naive & stupid.

hell, you can probably make an entire thread about the indie games that disappointed.

>>4990173
87 fag here. that sounds more like late 00's
first iphone was 2007 and they didnt get that popular for a few years

>>4989112
It was fun.

>>4991150
>Imagine the smelle
actually, it usually smelled with burned wire insulation and cigarette smoke, I'd say I even kind of miss that smell

>>4991449
Oh, get the fuck outta here with that /v/ bullshit. Why the fuck are you even on /vr/?

>>4989112
It was great. A game was actually DONE, FINISHED when you played it. On PC there MIGHT be an update of some sort, but that wasn't for another year, but for the most part, you just got a complete game you could play by yourself and replay a few months later when you felt like it.

>>4989945
>Think about all the games I grew up playing on my 486/Pentium 4.
>Remember how there was a new game to be excited about every few weeks.
>Grew up in the golden age of LAN/MP gaming.
>Made friends on GameSpy Arcade and TEN that I still talk to and game with today.

Cut to today:
>New game to be excited about every year or so.
>MP is a fucking slog of Battle Royale or Team Deathmatch that has none of the fun/tension of stuff like Day of Defeat or UT99.
>Most MP is matchmaking bullshit, and server browsers/favorites have fallen to the wayside, making that wonderment of making new friends you never would have met otherwise almost non-existent.

I wish I could go back from time to time and experience it all over for the first time. It sucks seeing things become so manufactured and soulless since 2001.

>>4989139
Its 2018
There is less time remained until 2035 then it was spent since the people who are allowed to post here were born

>>4990170
I hate to say it, because a few good games have come of it - PS2 not so much, because it wasn't so linked to the computer world - But holy fuck, Microsoft dicked over the gaming industry by releasing the Xbox. It was the start of the PC/Console "blurred line".

>>4991516
>>4991409

>>4991354

You wanted too much money, bitch.

>>4989760
A lot of the characters have games coming out today. Maybe the 15 year old playing Smash today didn't play SMB but he might have played Mario Maker, or whatever. Same with Zelda, Metroid, Fire Emblem, etc.
Besides, some of the less accessible games to today's generation are more easily accessible via Let's Plays, so they may not have played the OG Zelda, but they might watch the Game Grumps play it. And because I know this is 4chan, no I'm not saying that watching someone play a game is superior or even really the same as playing it yourself, but it does serve to introduce the games and characters to today's kids.

>>4989112
One thing I miss is even with internet access every bit of information about a game wasn't right in your face at launch or days before release. Even if you try to avoid it now there's just way too much information overload for modern games.

>>4991538
>>4991535
What's the point of this?

>>4990173
I think its hard to pinpoint the stuff that this decade will be remembered for. Probably the ongoing shift of traditionally console developers starting to port their games to PC? Companies like Sqeenix and Bamco are releasing basically everything on everything these days.

>>4991550
I think he's trying to use the "rose-tinted glasses" argument. That everyone of us is going to define the golden age as our own personal, subjective timeframe.

>>4991550
Anon is so busy nostalgia wanking over the 90s that he may not realize that there were people back then saying how video games were dead.

I'm saying nostalgiafagging is based around a selective interpretation of the past which omits all the negatives of that time and also that back in the day, some guy was complaining about how _that_ time period was all degeneration and decay.

>>4991557
Where are you going with this?

>>4991550
He thinks finding usenet posts of people complaining about video games invalidates all good points about how horrible modern gaming has become.

aka...ITS JUST NOSTALGIA BRO LOL

>>4991562
>He thinks finding usenet posts of people complaining about video games invalidates all good points about how horrible modern gaming has become.
I think his point was that people in 1994 thought modern gaming was awful too and not like it had been when they were 12.

>>4991568
There's two posts there, and only the first one is negative, saying games that should focus more on original gameplay is hardly an indictment of gaming at the time. Also, that was before the mid-1990s where 2D gaming flourished and 3D gaming took off.

>>4989208
All the ones in my area went out of business because the brainlets running them were always trying to be friends with the shitty teenagers that would come over for lan parties. No shit, one kid racked up a 2 grand tab which he never paid.

>>4989112
heaven. we grew up at the best fucking time of video games by far. after 2004 at the very latest it all went to shit.

>>4989183
the '80s were wank.

>>4989112
Great. I actually played with friends and didn't have the information overload of the internet diluting the experience when i played by myself.

>>4989925
Underratedp

>>4991616
this

>>4989112
being from 97, but growing up in a rural area and older siblings, i got to grow up and play the snes and ps1 while the ps2 was out. once i got a hand me down ps2 it was pretty great. isolation and pure immersion into whatever stupid games I played. I played all three consoles and never considered how different the technologies were. The PC at my house couIdnt run a fuckin thing and i was too dumb to even care to try or even know about pc gaming. gotta say gaming before was comfy, but that was because i was a kid with no worries. Now im in university and life sucks in some ways but rules in others. School and work and responsibility take up my time to game, and when i get ample time to game i feel bored with it too fast, the gaming industry and culture today make me fucking pissed off because how it affects the types of games that come out today. this is why i like to stick to vr games when i can. I still can be immersed in older games unlike on my PS4.

>>4989112
They were great times. I'll be watching old footage from early 2000s LAN parties now.

>>4990495
Is that some Joe Cartoon?

>>4991630
where do you find such footage?

>>4991634
I just searched lan party on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=979kf-mGMuc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NSEn0kOAnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xi8WtTrEhs

>>4991637
woah youtube is cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch__Ah2iCtQ

>>4989112
>What was gaming like in the 90s and early 2000s?
Games are fucking FUN. Standardized mechanics are a thing but it's not ubiquitous, a fuckton of artistic freedom. Yeah sometimes it resulted in some bottomlowtear offensive joke games, but with every LOL HUNT DA HOMOS WIF YE BOOMSTICK you got Evolva, Sacrifice, Millennium Soldier, Future Cop, HardWars etc.
Also, dialup. Oh boy it was a magical experience and a fucking torture to download a 10 megs patch or HUH-HUH-*gib* with over 100 ping.

>>4991637
>>4991642
Fucking delightful. Thanks for all the stuff.

ITT /pol/ escapes its containment cage

>>4989112
those computers were so fucking comfy. remember the comfy sounds of the hard drives lads? gg-gg-g....

yummy. i'd do anything to go back

>>4991417
t. 7th gen babby born in 2000

>>4991557
>>4991554
>>4991538
>>4991535
Why do some autists do this? Why can't they let us have a nostalgia wank in piece?

>>4991554
He's right about the early 80s being the factual golden age of arcades though, and that's why the 90s are called "the silver age".

>>4991701
Well, dumping that kind of old posts just to shout LOL NOSTALGIA AMIRITE like that anon just did was kinda retarded, but i think it's still fascinating to see how the human mind works.
We love how things are during our formative years, and then at some point things change so much we start to not like them anymore, but at the same time dismissing that as just having rose tinted glasses would be pretty dumb and reductionist, because things factually changed indeed, with tons of pros and cons to ponder, and there are always some very objective reasons to state why you think things in some arbitrary past timeframe used to be better.
Even though i love 90s arcade more than my life, i can still recognize that that guy was factually right, gaming and arcade gaming during the late 70s/early 80s used to be more experimental, more varied, more universally appealing and simple, then things subsequently changed and arcade games focused way more on few successful genres and the classic of the times like SF2 and MK were just aimed at teenage boys.
So, grandpasimpson.jpg and all that shit.

Great games and great systems.

Too bad we were to fucking poor/young to get them all.

So I like living now since I can get all the shit I love and/or wish I could try back then for a fraction of the cost and headache.

Inb4 Mommy and Daddy bought me everything cuz I was a spoiled little twat.

>>4991701
Because you become >>4991538 without enough self awareness.

>>4991692
Found the Neo-Marxist.

>>4991449
Yaas, gurl! You showed that evil white man!
Fuck hats!
Fuck drinks!
Fuck white people!

>>4991857
What the fuck you're even talking about you dumb retard, why do you have to shoehorn retarded SJW memes when no one is talking about that.

>>4989121
/thread

>>4991863
nope

90s gaming was increfibly awesome, then sony came with their 3D shit and ruined gaming forever. Thank you, you fucking coke nosed corporate psychopaths.

90s gaming was incredibly awesome, then sony came with their 3D shit and ruined gaming forever. Thank you, you fucking coke nosed corporate psychopaths.

to me, the 90s gaming is inseparable from the then-Internet: dial-up, night gaming marathons in Diablo/AoE/KKnD on battle.net/kali/mplayer, the overall feeling of connecting to something endless and hardly regulated
all those people from around the world I suddenly managed to get acquainted with thanks to games

>>4989112
PC gaming as amazing, CS, Starcraft, etc. Console was good as well, with N64 and PS1 having Spyro, Goldeneye, and Mario. PC was 100x better then the consoles, as they'd had 3D first and it looked better.

outside of games, the 90s were mediocre
>Clinton

>>4990107
iMac clones! I forgot all about those! What fun times!

>>4992097
>dude, MMOs and flash web games
Nope.

>>4992615
Pretty much, gaming was the only good thing about the 90s.

>>4992615
The thing is, what came later wasn't any better.

>>4992615
Entertainment in general was awesome in the 90s, although that may be my nostalgia talking.

>>4992642
I had a lot of good times playing flash games in the school computer lab during recess. I've honestly never tried an MMO; at this point, I feel like it's probably too late.

>>4989121
> "meh"ing off the Quake3 / UT years
lmao get a load of this tool

>>4992926
They really are pretty meh compared to the DOOM/Quake/HL era.

>>4992930

>DOOM/Quake/HL era.

>HL

>>4989112
I'll never forget how games like Half life, Quake, and Unreal just blew me away at the time of release, and again years later with Half Life 2 and Doom 3.. I'll never forget demo discs and expansion packs, server browsers.. drawing a dot on my CRT for counter strike.. Nostalgia tells me things were better back then, but it's hard to come to that conclusion. I guess there was more charm back then? I don't know. I'd like to go back lol.

>>4990869
We still got plenty of good games out of 7th gen, so I don't really care what shitty industry outcomes and business maneuvers there were.

>>4991151
>Japanese domination
>during the peak of Western RTSs and RPGs

>>4989112
I miss word of mouth
I miss my friend telling me his mom forbid him from playing this super creepy game called silent hill, or gossip about how cute chun li was, or how a lot of kids had a playstation and would lend games to each other

>>4992926
dude, first person shooters

>>4992986
Japanese domination on consoles.
Western domination on Pc.
How things were meant to be

>>4989183
I was spoiled enough to get an atarii after the crash, but an NES the year it came out. Its been amazing and fast the whole time.

My experience with games was having to go somewhere to "multi-play". Rooms were sometimes comfy, other times it was a shitty attic bedroom on a uhf/vhf set. It went that way all the way through Halo & the Xbox/PS2. Our crew was as large as 12. We never had any trouble for 2-4 player games any time.

Perhaps that is why lots of games after that are somewhat soulless to me? Id rather sit around and play games with friends then virtually. Perhaps that is when I stopped caring about video games?

>>4991862
Yaasss! You slay! Totally roasted that mean man!

PS2 had/has A LOT of games, theres a some hidden gems out there, like Dual Hearts, and then there are A LOT of games that are just not worth the time.

Gamecube was cool for parties and playing with friends, family friendly, great if you only wanna play Nintendo games for the most part.

Xbox was a more mature version of the PS2 I guess. Similar games, some cool exclusives, nowhere near as many games as PS2. If it came down to it, i'd have got a PS2 if i had to pick.

Handheld gaming was cool, the GBA was the shit, DS started off slow but got good later on. PSP was the same way but i felt like it never really took off.

XBOX, PSP and DS are more mid 2000s.

>buy game, get home
>shove it into 300$ 2xdisk drive CD-ROM player
>3 hours to install and wont work afterwards
>go do something else

>>4993141
I believe this was the reason why PC gamers iin the 90s were more likely to play 2-3 games thoroughly than jump around games like console children do. Also tiny HD spaces.

>>4993149
>I believe this was the reason why PC gamers iin the 90s were more likely to play 2-3 games thoroughly than jump around games like console children do. Also tiny HD spaces.

What do you mean "console children"?

>>4993161
Console children buy hundreds of games a year and play 20 minutes of each before jumping to something else.

>>4990173
You're just saying that because the world really ended in 2012.

>>4990173
I'm from '85. Maybe this is bs who knows, but I feel like our generation is the one that has seen more technological change in our lifetime than any other one. We did have tv but at our house there were literally two channels almost all the while I was single digits. But basically it's just this extraordinary change from primitive 2D to good 2D to primitive 3D to good 3D. The shift from crappy slow PCs and devices and to having liteallly never been on the internet for many years, and then almost nobody taking it up... the shift is unbelievable. It was such exciting times to grow up in and noone knew what was going to happen. People travel abroad to broaden their horizons but that's kind of built-into us because of the totally different way of life we knew. It's not the same for kids growing up these days when all of them are available.

>>4993164
That's just what pirates did, retard.

>>4993792

>>4993164
You’re thinking of PC Steam/GOG babbies

>>4993149
You’re an ahistorical faggot. In the 90s, before you were born, console gamers would own a handful of games and we’d play the fuck out of them. It was PC gamers with their shareware and piracy that had hundreds of games they barely played.

PC gaming is pure cancer

>>4993828
>PC gamers with their shareware and piracy
That's why PC is superior gaming platform.

>>4989183
I was just looking at some scanned Byte Magazine issues in particular from 1981 and 88 and the 88 issue felt like a completely different planet altogether. Computing in 1988 was very very different from what it had been seven years earlier.

>>4993861
Yeah I agree technology in the 80s did advance a lot and our perspective is a little distorted by home computers like the C64 that stood static for years, even though big advances were happening every year. A Z80 CP/M box was a very respectable business computer in 1981, by 85 it was outdated and had been overtaken by PC compatibles.

>>4989112
Probably the objective best period of gaming so far with plenty of titles that have yet to have been bettered even to this day (e.g. UFO Enemy Unknown, Deus Ex). Sega and Namco's 3D based arcade hardware defining what could be possible with polygon based games and a love and care to their aesthetics that is still pretty much unmatched (Namco even included multiple alternative soundtracks on some of their home ports!). Then you've got the Playstation, the console that finally snapped me out of years of home computer/PC snobbery and made me realise how good Japanese game design truly was compared to most western titles when it came to games about pure action. Probably the greatset console ever after the SNES. Towards the end of the decade the PC strikes back with the greatest RPGs in the history of the platform as well as the online FPS explosion. Games like Quake 3 or Team Fortress Classic had a skill ceiling far beyond what is possible with modern FPS games.
The 2000s were a gigantic disappointment in comparison, the Japanese games industry tying itself up in knots of self doubt and declining in a now very much globalised market and the mediocre PS2 catlogue reflecting as much, and PC gaming cruelly fading out with horrible abortions like Deus Ex: Invisible War squandering all the promise of the past 10 years. It was only until Steam kicked in towards the end of the decade and the Xbox 360 came out I cared about gaming again.

>>4993903
>2000s were a gigantic disappointment in comparison
>mediocre PS2 catlogue
Dude, mid 90s - first half of 00s was a fucking best years for japan with big publishers like Capcom, Konami and Namco delivering some stellar ludo, also resurrected Sega delivering a fine piece of arcade experience and despite low figures big N went full nucleus with a lot of stuff so fresh and good nintendo "no fun not original" department executives got both hands chopped off.

>>4989143
>nowadays with AAA games, they lack groundbreaking new ways of doing things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E
Reply when you're done.

>>4993141
Yes, I remember feeling a chill and getting paranoid every time I got a new PC game, thinking whether it would even work or not. When it did, I was so grateful that I played the game back to back over and over again just because I could.

>>4992939
>drawing a dot on my CRT for counter strike
*inhales*

>>4991157
I thought the same until trying it. I ended up buying a rift. It’s seriously a lot of fun.

>>4991236
There was nothing more heartbreaking than buying a game and have it mysteriously not work on your computer. Just stare at the box and imagine how fun the game is...

>>4994258
Then again, that gave me the incentive to figure shit out and learn how computers worked. To run Master of Magic I had made special boot disk that prevented DOS from loading unnecessary device drivers. Honestly I don't remember how I figured that out with such limited access to the internet. I guess systems came with some amount of documentation and were much simpler.

after everybody moved to Win95, I wouldn't say having troubles with a new game was a frequent issue, as opposed to the times of all those shenanigans around DOS and memory usage

>>4994298
>all those autexec.bat and config.sys files
>just to play games
I had a lot more patience back then.

Imagine the perfect world.
That's how it felt.

>>4994362
>rem
>rem
>rem
>rem
Should I rem it as well? Ah... damn it.
>rem

>>4989112

The perfect utopia

The real question is what will gaming/tech be like in 20 years?

>>4994819
Slightly disappointing.

Diminishing returns in advancement.

Had a shitty childhood so I can only say I am glad people invented and perfected emulation, and I'm glad I can now spend money on videogames.

There has never been a better time to get into videogames than now, even poor third worlders can afford 10/10 games while back then you were middle-upper class if you could afford a gaming PC and its 8 months long update cycles, if you were poor you would be happy with a gameboy and tiger games lookalike.

The only downside is that if you got into PC in the late 80s-early 90s you were bound to learn how PC actually work and that would become an incredibly valuable life skill later on.

>>4990495
Elf bowling! Now there's a throwback.
I used to have to secretly play it because my parents wouldn't let me for the "violence". Those were the good ol' days.

>>4994819
Mainstream VR will be “just around the corner”.

>>4994819
Press button watch movie

>>4993861
>I was just looking at some scanned Byte Magazine issues in particular from 1981 and 88 and the 88 issue felt like a completely different planet altogether
Just look at arcades. 1981 to 1991 saw a massive leap in design, visuals, audio, and gameplay. A hit fighting game went from 1981's boxing (pic related) to street fighter 2 in a single decade. A leap like that was space magic.

1991 to 2001 had equal leaps: The rise of MMORPG, emergence of FPS and RTS, and the modern era of RPGs began for both JRPG and WRPG, digital storage for huge games in huge worlds, and a huge leap in visuals and audio.

Now show a gamer in 2001 a game from 2011 and would it blow their mind? Fuck no. More polished visuals but the PS3 dd not look or feel like space magic to someone who owned a PS2. It was all ideas and visuals and games they were already familiar with, only now they had slightly higher res visuals but it was not a jaw dropping shift.

2011 to 2021 will be even less impactful than the previous decade.

>>4994929
This.

>>4993082
based

>>4994929
Really not that true. In 2001 two of the four sixth-gen consoles wouldn't even release until the end of the year, so many people were still solidly in the N64/PSX/SAT era. Of those consoles the showstoppers were basically MGS2, Rogue Leader and Halo. Two of those were actually impressive, but by the end of 2011 you had various late UE3 games that were pushing consoles to their limits, standardized physics engines through PhysX, and handhelds were pushing sixth-gen quality graphics when they started the decade with the GBC and GBA.

>>4995118
t. millennial zoomer

>>4989112
Two words:
hella f*kin epic

>>4995224
>hairy as fuck arms

That's pre-00's alright.

>>4989112
PC GAMING
>either came on 4-6 floppy's or 1 CD
>patches were mailed on a floppy disc or patch CD
>dial up took a minute, needed second phone line
>cable arrived before y2k as "128k"... snes roms now took 30sec-3min to download instead of 15-45min.
>most PC games came fully packed on the disc and you could dump it all into your HD and bootleg your own copies later to friends. Dont forget to write down the key!
CONSOLE CAMING
>full motion video was all the rave. So CD-based gaming was in style
>CD consoles meant lots of loading times for extended periods
>cartridge games were expensive AF, like $59.99-$89.99 just for mortal kombat II.
>if it had bugs, oh well.
>sometimes nintendo would keep a game running on the shelves for years but behind closed doors it'd get revisions. Think OoT and its various cart's.

I remember being a kid and thinking "cyber space" was the world-wide connection at your finger tips letting you go anywhere. I wasn't too far off, but it was just the internet... not some matrix style shit. I remember having my own floppy disk for 6th grade to use for class work. My friend's and I would always use the extra space to share pictures, MIDI's of our favorite video game music, and roms. Final fantasy 5 was the hotness and in english back then.

'95-'00 were the years I went from cave man's son to internet wielding 13yr old. Good times.

>>4994298
>poorfag family
>everyone was moving onto the ps1 era while I'm stuck with a famicom
>have to visit various friends houses to play different games, reminding them to not delete my saves
>it's cool, we were all decent kids but I felt a pang of guilt and embarrassment everytime I visited with my little bros
>friend introduced me to homm2, was so happy I could play hotseat with him and my brothers
>totally addicted to homm2
>he told me homm3 is coming up, I'm like holy shit
>despite being poor and having zero knowledge of pc's I managed to salvage some unused parts from my friends/relatives and jury rigged them into a functional desktop
>borrowed cd, install homm3 and against all odds, it ran fine
>me and my bros were all ecstatic, fun times were had
My friends jokingly called my pc the junkyard pc since it literally looked like a pile of scrap metal pieced together. To this day I still wonder how it worked - every part was riddled with dust and scratches, some were even rusty and I think it ran on me and my brother's collective willpower alone.

early 2000 online gaming was so weird. Phone modem's were still pretty standard. Wireless routers were still kind of a mess with compatibility so a kid in highschool had a mess of hurdles to tackle to get a dreamcast or PS2 or DS online. I was trying so many times to trick my DS into accessing the router and connect pictochat online.

The 90s arcade scene was amazing. You could walk into almost any arcade and start playing a fighting game or beat-em-up with whoever happened to be around. In the early 00s, it shifted to DDR and Initial D, both of which had much more niche, tight-knit communities. That was pretty much the last hurrah for most arcades, though. They are starting to see a resurgence, but it's mostly throw-back arcades rather than anything new.

>>4990170
>the nightmare that gaming post-2006 became
There seriously isn't anything that social media didn't ruin.

>>4989112
pretty great i was still playing lan cs 1.6 in like 2007

>>4995583
There were still some good or interesting games being released after 2006, like Mario Galaxy, Portal, Sin & Punishement 2, the Half Life 2 chapters, Bioshock, Ghost Trick, Soul Bubbles, Pac-Man Championship Edition, etc. Nevertheless, I agree that by 2007 a crisis was brewing and the industry was starting to change for the worse, altough it wasn't really noticable before 2010, IMO.

>>4995225
You don't have arm hair?

Does this actually feel like the 90s? Or it's just a slice of life moeblob harem with a shallow retrogaming gimmick attached to it?

>>4995740
It's not that they don't make good games anymore, it's just that the market took a turn for the worse altogether.
Consoles started to became useless pcs for retards that want to pay for p2p online, Pcs started to became glorified consoles, non-handheld/smartphone related japanese development took a nosedive, mid-tier productions disappeared, western AAA gaming became bottom of the barrel, focus tested overly-safe trash, every year publishers try to push new, greedier ways to exploit microtransactions, and so on.

>>4995764
90s guys had more testosterone. i remember the older guys at church. they would be really loud while playing soccer. loud shouts, loud hard kicks. i remember my older neighbor, dude would tinker with his car engine while blasting guns n roses. then the younger kids came of age and they sounded like a bunch of try-hard sissies on the soccer field. even their faces are less masculine. i guess the water really is turning the frogs gay.

>>4996560
Yeah, with Alex Jones or not, things have changed, and are changing still. Doesn't mean it's always for the worse.

>>4996560
>this is what zoomers believe

>>4996625
Nah, it is for the worse. Testosterone and other male hormones are way down - the science clearly shows it. It's a modern phenomenon of poisoning, like the xenooestrogens in the water, in plastics, hormones, all around us that act like female hormones and stop males from developing male ones. Just because Alex Jones is saying something doesn't make it wrong. Obviously Alex Jones "miracle pils" won't work (or in the unlikely event they have anything in them that appreciably helps you would undoubtedly get the part that does at a fraction of the price elsewhere).

I was kind of like you in my late teens/early 20s. My dad would sometimes say something about getting muscle and I'm like "why, I'm not fighting anyone" (I didn't say that but I thought it). But upper body muscle is good for you. It's healthy. Women love upper body strength like males love bootys and boobs. Also, throughout evolutionary history humans have had big arms - all of the apes have huge arms muscles - they have to to climb, so that suggests that it's really natural to have upper body strength and not to have stick arms. Testosterone is good for many things like memory, not having depression, motivation and energy and so on.

Anyway the point is that low testosterone and body strength is NOT normal, it's NOT natural, it's an abnormal part of what we're exposed to in modern times.

Fallout a post nuclear role playing game's cool game

>>4996643
(cont`d)

>>4996560
You can still see some of these guys at church btw, they're just really old now. The muscles come off a bit, they've got a bit rougher, slower, flabbier, but they're still there. Still a toughness. They still look a lot better than many an effeminate kid out there. That won't happen with the current generation who will look horrible and probably die before they hit 75, and I might have to count myself in that because I've always been short of testosterone.

>>4996654
>I might have to count myself in that because I've always been short of testosterone.
And there it is. Projecting your insecurities about your own masculinity onto an entire generation is brainlet tier, kid. Keep eating them onions though.

>>4989112
The good old days man. Op pic was my house. 10 guys in both sides of 2 bedroom duplexes. We had so much shit going on. Starcraft lan and a dedicated pc to only download and burn cds 24/7.

I really miss it

>>4996683

>>4994929
... dude, Crysis 2 came out in 2011. Fuckin Crysis 1 came out like 4 years earlier. You showed someone either game in 2001 their collective dicks would’ve been blown clean off...

>>4996692
I just have the same circle of friends. Never got rid of 'em.

>>4996643
>is NOT normal, it's NOT natural
Curing cancer is not natural, Coronary artery bypass surgery is not natural, curing scoliosis, birth defects, sterilizing is not natural.
Cars are not natural, videogames are not natural.

MAN is not natural, it's a creature that survives by fucking up the natural order and creates a world fit for itself and ONLY itself.
Also a random picture of some hairy guy from 30 years ago does not prove shit, go to Greece, go to low-income UK worker class neighbourhoods, you'll see people like that alright, even tougher.

Of course the son of a middle-upper class dentist that does not have to work to pay for his studies is not gonna be jacked or shit, he does not need to.
And us having less sperm, less Test is normal due to LIVING IN AN OVERCROWDED SOCIETY, even in other countries where they don't "poison" water with fluoride people are having less kid because unplanned families are dumb and something only Amazonian/African tribes do, and that's because they used to balance themselves out after a famine/disaster/etc.etc.
Appeal to nature is dumb, don't do it.

The kids you are mocking are inventing 3D printers at 20 years old, they are discovering new clean means of transport and travel, they are making major breakthrough in other sciences at 30 yo.

You just have social media now to look at the majority, but the majority has always been dumb.
sage for dumb politics post.

>>4991546
>Besides, some of the less accessible games to today's generation are more easily accessible via Let's Plays, so they may not have played the OG Zelda, but they might watch the Game Grumps play it

You heard it here folks, the reason nintendo puts all these obscure characters in games is so they can monetize the let's plays that their fans will watch to learn about the obscure character.

90s was pretty fucking bad in some aspects, but the 2000s had some pretty damn good games (until 08)

>>4989925
>You would go to a store and buy a game, and then play it

I member back then you used to be able to get a good idea of a game's plot by what the back of the box actually said, and the pics on it. Now you have a one sentence blurb and it's translated into 16 languages. I mean, there are smart phones to look up the game, but it feels cheapened somehow. Buying a game on a chance with no info on it, and never have seen reviews could lead to some magic sometimes. This is how my cousins and I ended up playing shining force 1 for several summers. It was some unknown game on the shelves of a pamida store that had neat artwork and a good back cover.

>>4991340
PC wasn't as much of a gaming machine for me, but don't forget half life and team fortress (not the modern shit) along with doom and similar fps existed. If memory serves me correct in about 96 I spend countless hours on HL and TF.

>>4991354
I might have but I literally never heard of you. Maybe you should have advertised or been IBM compatible so schools would have you at least.

>>4991468
>for every one good indie game there's like 1001 shovelware shit.

Remember those 1001 games cds that we actually tried every game on, finding a dozen good ones at best?

>>4991627
>I still can be immersed in older games unlike on my PS4.
infinifactory is good and cheap

>>4991652
>HUH-HUH-*gib* with over 100 ping.
Leading people by several seconds for the sniper rifle to actually hit them.

>>4997023
>If memory serves me correct in about 96 I spend countless hours on HL and TF.
Now that would be an awesome party trick seeing how HL came out in '98.

>>4997259
Then memory didn't serve me right. It must have been in 98 or 99. Maybe it was tf, the quake mod.

>>4996994
I miss instruction booklets with art and maps and stories, too. I used to love reading those before I played a new game. Now, you're lucky if a game has anything other than a seizure warning in the box.

>>4993082
you go queen

>>4989925
10/10

>>4989112
total hell for fightan enthusiast if you didn't live near community and/or your friends weren't enthusiasts themselves.Fighting games aren't super popular nowadays either, but at least you can play online, provided netcode is good.

Most expensive shit!
PC was near dead... Some Saturn Games was fun....

>>4991236
>Computers were advancing so fast that you could buy a computer and 8 months later not be able to run the newest games. It was also very common to buy a game that matched your specs but have it not work on your computer due to bugs or hardware mismatches.

Also, official system requirements were often bullshit back then. Minimum requirements often meant the game would boot to the title screen, but not necessarily in a playable state even at lowest settings. Recommended specs would get you 30 fps at high (not highest) settings, if you were lucky.

At least things seem to have improved in this aspect, nowadays most new games put as minimal spec requirements something that will get you at least 30 fps at medium settings, or better. Recommended usually means maxed out settings at 60 fps.

>>4994835
>The only downside is that if you got into PC in the late 80s-early 90s you were bound to learn how PC actually work and that would become an incredibly valuable life skill later on.
Ah yes, because configuring DOS proved a very useful skill 25 years later.

>>4998685
And sometimes even the recommended specs weren't enough for playable stable framerates.

>>4998720
This. To think I used to be under the impression any of that nonsense was giving me any useful skills. Most computers and programs today are amazingly stable compared to what they were, but when something goes wrong you do disk check and to hell with it if that doesn't work, I hope your data is backed up.

>>4998720
Many cyber jobs today don't use a GUI.

>>4998720
>because configuring DOS proved a very useful skill 25 years later.

Understanding file paths and command lines is still relevant. Understanding that all your hardware needs correct drivers is still relevant. Understanding that programs often have config files is relevant. Significant chunks of early versions of windows are still relevant - the registry for example.
Understanding how to think critically about likely causes of the problem you're having is still relevant.

You wouldn't believe how many supposed 'digital native' gen z kids have got no clue where to start looking when some automated gui frontend fails. Some of them don't even know what they should enter into google.

>>4998750
The high paid ones in particular.

>>4998756
>'digital native' gen z kids
Most of them don't know a router from a toaster ffs.

>>4994041
>anime games
>groundbreaking
lmao

>>4991019
u mean Terminator?

>>4998838
No, the Pegasus.

Eastern Europe here. Born in 1990.

Middle 90s were full of nes clones. Mario, tank, duckhunt, ninja gayden and tons of games that most of the time weren't even displaying properly.

Internet cafes boomed in late 90s to mid 00s. I was at the cafes all day and the energy there was great. People had something in common and were bonding over it, gaming was much more of a social experience. Late 90s was a lot of Duke Nukem, Red Alert, Warcraft II, Starcraft, MK, Carmageddon, Delta Force for me.

I'd say early 00s was even comfier. Everyone was playing HOMM3, Starcraft, Warcraft III, Counter Strike, Half Life, Red Alert 2, Diablo 2, UT2000, Quake 3, GTA 3. You could spend entire days jumping between them playing multiplayer with friends and never get bored.

I got my first PC @ 2003. Still playing the games I mentioned above. At that time I got a SNES emulator and played some of the classics. Oh and around that time Mu Online was a huge craze here and which I played like a madman.

What I really don't miss is CDs and "corrupted" archives and game files.

Thanks for reading my blog.

>>4995273
This post gave me feels.

>>4998727
Yep, hence why I added "if you were lucky".

>>4999073
My bad, I somehow missed that.

> Parents had a nice, big Sony Trinitron, but from like 1983
> no Yellow video RCA jack
> RF-Adapter only
> literally everyone else had yellow jacks for their consoles and it was a constant source of frustration trying to play them at my place

> Cousin got a PS1
> Cousin did not get a memory card
> Played like 20 straight hours of Crash Team Racing
> Needed to save or lose all our progress
> Kept the PS1 running all night and for like 30 straight hours until we could make money and get to the store for a memory card
> Saved the game! Happy ending!

> we all got shitty Windows 3.1 first computers, but in the era of Windows 95/98
> It just booted directly to Windows.
> No idea what "DOS" was.
> Get floppy-disk DOOM from aunt's boyfriend.
> Arcane DOS-booting instructions written on the manual.
> could never remember how to start the damn game
> Born too late to master the CLI, too early/poor to get nice 95/98/XP computers
> End up as a programmer anyway, somehow.

>>4991340
I played PC games almost exclusivly in the mid 90s prefering it to super nintendo because the flight simulators were more complex and "realistic" for the time. and the FPS were more varied.

>>4992926
That was the late 90s, and PC gaymin' became pretty niche by the early 2000s, so lots of people played on PS2, Gamecube or Xbox.

>>4989112
It was like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R1njDrBIz4

>>4991546
>but they might watch the Game Grumps play it.

please leave and never come back here again

>>4997023
>Remember those 1001 games cds that we actually tried every game on, finding a dozen good ones at best?
i had one of those as a kid it was mostly educational games.

I'd probably be more ok with the rise of indie games being a good if there was better quality control.

i can't remember the last indie game i was excited for that didn't turn out to be a disappointment.

>>4989112
>cool uncle had StarCraft when it first came out
>be 8
>play a game with guts, gore and swearing right under the noses of my very strict parents

Now that Blizzard released both it and SC2 for free online I'm playing both a full 20 years later

mfw

>>4999585
Where's the top of that guy's head?

>>4989112
playing with friends and family together on splitscreen with a console was the norm before that "m-muh singleplayer experience!" bullshit post '05. Arcades and LAN parties were also a thing back then and they were very social activities compared to nowadays.

you don't see much of that now, sadly

90s were fantastic. One of the major problems nowadays is that games are so expensive to make that big developers are less likely to take risks on new ideas because the costs incured on a loss can be castastrophic (Hollywoods's going through the same shit right now). The 90s felt much fresher in my opinion due to the reduced development costs opening up more creative channels

>>4994258
>mfw i was too poor to even afford those so for a good while in my childhood I'd just stare at old games magazines that my cousin threw out (the ones with walkthroughs) and pretend I was the one playing them

>>4998720
It's not about DOS or the Amstrad or the Commodore in particular, is the part where it gives you a MINDSET.

>>4999804
>stare at playthroughs pretending to play
Oh man, I totally forgot I used to do that.

>>4990479
People born after December 31st 1999 are officially not retro and should refrain from posting to this board.

>>4990479
Correct and here in a year and three months a person born in 2000 will be 20 years old. >>5000096
time to face the music grandpa, you are no longer wanted or needed.

>>4996560
> le onions boys, no testostorone, alex jones

/pol/ really is a metastic tumor on 4chan, isn't it?

Was gaming really big enough back then to warrant its continuing existence in the early 2000s?

>>5000245
it's all true, you limp-dicked faggot. and the alex jones reference was obviously ironical.

>>4997023
thanks gamer ill check it out

every genre of game was invented during this period. first fps game, first 3d platformer, first rts, first rpgs, etc. if you were around this time you got to experience these being brand new and exciting. doom, mario 64, tony hawk and also gta3 were especially groundbreaking and you cannot describe how amazing it was at the time. all games made after are just small tweaks and fancier graphics. games were also much simpler technically so you had tons of rom hacks and mods.

>>5000096
Yeah how dare the younger generation become interested in retro gaming.

>>4996560
>90s guys had more testosterone
>guns n roses
>that band with that androgynous twink in skinny jeans with a higher pitched voice than most women as its singer
Oh, you.

>>4999804
>borrow strategy guides for games you don't own from the library so you can pretend to be playing the games
Good times. I knew every secret exit in Super Mario World by heart before I ever played the game.

>>4989183
>80s
>no 3D
>no net play
>no LANs
>no home computers

Nothing wrong with 80s games but no, 90s was where rapid progress and amazing shit really happened.

>>5002147
No home computers in the 80s? What were then the Amiga, Commodores, Spectrums, MSX, X68000, Amstrads, etc?
There was little 3D, but went from Pole Position or Turbo, to Power Drift or Galaxy Force in the same decade. And from Pac-man or Xevious to R-Type, Final Fight or Strider.

Also, very little people cared about net play because back then you played with your friends at their houses. Also, arcades was where the gaming socializing places.

>>4998772
Seriously, just the other day I was coordinating a program at Uni, I provided a magnet link and people had to download a movie for a showing and one of the freshmen involved asked me how to torrent things...
I was fucking dumbfounded, this "kids these days are all technologically literate" talk is total bullshit, they can only operate their cell phones, and even then, they don't know anything particularly technical...

>>5002203
>this "kids these days are all technologically literate" talk is total bullshit, they can only operate their cell phones, and even then, they don't know anything particularly technical...
Damn right. I deal with freshmen/sophomores all the time in my job and aisde from their facebook/tinder machines a lot of them struggle with the concept of a big red switch turning the electric oven or the radiator on, never mind torrents (which, if they even know about it, meets with a "but that's illegal!" reaction)

>>4999804
My father used to work as a janitor in a research facility and he had a huge stack of old computer magazines. I used to read those all the time wondering what half of the stuff meant and imagining playing the games that they reviewed. I remember that the pages that listed the cheat codes were my favorite for some reason.

>>4998756
100% agree.

Lulz to the idiot who made the snark about dos command prompt. Dat low
Level understanding

>>4991340
>>4991324
In the late 90s most people I knew couldn’t afford or didn’t know how to build gaming rigs that could run stuff like Unreal and Half Life. I didn’t know anyone who had those games when they first came out. I only heard about them at GameStops in malls. Most people had PlayStations for 3D games and played stuff like age of empires and civ on their PC. It wasn’t until around 2001 that half life and quake 3 started to pop up in casual convos and that’s when I got them. Half Life 2 got a lot of my friends into PC gaming because it was playable on slightly older machines and the source engine demonstrated a lot of things that were not available to console players. By late 2004 you could have half life 2 and cs:s for 35 bucks and have money left over to catch up on HL1 too. That’s a lot of game for the price of a new ps2 game .

That’s when I actually started to see LAN parties pop up

>>4995273
Lol that’s fantastic.

By year 2000 I’d say my family was on its 3rd or 4th computer.

We never had a Apple computer like the Apple 2 etc but I used it and it’s counter parts in elementary school playing things like mixed up mother goose, rocker builder, Oregon trail, etc even back then I had interest in building computers and helped occasionally in the lab. Those Apple computers were surprisingly easy to put together even though they typically had numerous components and connectors.

A few dos machines I can’t recall, a 286, and then ether a turbo 386 or then moving into early intel processors. Occasionally we’d get a computer from my dads office and it would typically be a serviceable machine for a few years.

The biggest jump we ever made was probably in 2002 when my parents house was broken into. We had literally just bought a brand new computer and I know my dad had stretched the budget. Was probably 2600 with the monitor. House was broken into and computer stolen. Claim insurance and get like 4500 back in computer equipment and games due them taking everything.

We then purchased one of the top of the line machines for the time, don’t recall but was a intel processor, maxed ram, 3DFX Voodoo 3000, top sound blaster sound card etc. that was what definitely solidified myself as a PC gamer through and through. Really, consoles have never touched that PC’s were doing even back then

I bought a PS2 for GTA:Vice city and that was probably the only console I got between that and my N64 from launch

Half life, delta force, point and click adventure games, Everquest, etc

Honestly probably my favorite time of gaming if I think about it

>>4999114
good thing it doesn't need to be rebooted to accept the mc

>>4989130
well said. I feel the same way. I remember back in the 90's playing Doom and Quake on my dads computer the entire summer.
lol man....i remember one christmas eve, i snuck out of my room and watched my parents wrapping a sega genesis with paper. SO excited.The next morning...it said "from santa". I had my doubts before that but this confirmed it. Oh man I loved the sega, playing road rash...but i specifcally remmeber being really excited for this game called Vectorman. When it was first released they had some big deal about a chance winning 10,000 or something...but you would only find out at the very end of the game if you actually won or not. I begged my mom and she said she would if i id all my chores and all this extra shit for months...and i did...i remember playing it until my eyes bled. didnt. win. but still. idk those were some good times. I had major fun when i got back into gaming later on to, and still do.

>>5003191
It must be a regional difference.
Here in Eastern Europe, everyone had PCs, and I only knew one person with a PS1. This was obviously because even then PCs were the cheaper option, if you stayed a generation behind. So we all played Duke3D, Quake and Unreal the month they came out.
My first experience with Quake was on a 486 with 2MB of RAM. We got the game on floppies (a few boxes of them) since we didn't have a CD drive. And the game needed 4MB of RAM, so we configured DOS4GW to use the harddrive as extra RAM, essentially a swap file. It ran horribly, maybe 4-5 FPS, but damn it, we experienced full 3D textured graphics for the first time in our lives.

>>5003954
This takes me back, constantly coaxing my rig into running games it was severely underspecced for. I only knew one kid who always had current gen tech, but his parents were loaded.