/vr/ - Retro Games

It's a more intimate, atmospheric game that pays homage to glorious Showa era.

>>4979937
showa era?

>>4979947
it's a very long era

We got used to a certain pacing in 1 that if you were uncomfortable with the acceleration in 2, hold on to your ass because I'm sure 3 is going to feel way faster.

>>4979947

showa era was like 1930s-1980s

Because China is fucking disgusting.

Because you were able to intake the world and be apart of it. Shenmue 2 does not allow that.

Because shenmue 2 isn’t retro

>>4980158
You still do in 2, from the moment Ryo meets Xiuying and every master will connect to Ryo, with Joy, Wong and Fangmei hanging around. There are other minor characters like that, but some conversations or even know them better can be missable.

>>4979916
It isn't.

I enjoyed 2 more, but I have an odd addiction to lucky hit.

>>4979916
forklifts

80's Japan is comfier than 80's Hong Kong

>>4980548
>lucky hit.
This shit right here fucking sucks. Some time ago I spent hours trying to figure out the safest angle and the easiest board to win on from one of the gamblers and it's impossible to determine because EVERY SINGLE ANGLE you can drop the ball on is 100% RNG. Which I guess is realistic but fuck that.

>>4980590
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS1p0CMqo5E

>>4981062
that's what makes it fun though, if you knew where to drop it and which board to drop in you'd just win every time and get bored quick

>>4980212
it's dreamcast so yes

Because SEGA blew up the budget in the first one?

>>4979916
Probably because it's the only complete story Suzuki got to make, iirc he wanted 7 games spanning some 16 chapters, and Shenmue 1 was only chapter 1 (Shenmue 2 was meant to take place entirely on a boat, and I think Shenmue 3 was meant to be the Hong Kong arc/Kowloon arc we got in Shenmue 2) There are also some reports Shenmue 1 was meant to be 7 discs with the china arc in there as well.

>>4981579
If anything, Sega had been blowing the budget on the two of them, since the game was in development since 1994 (I think) and was going to release on the Saturn which would've been some technical marvel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foZUcPQAMvg

You can even see Shenmue 2's locations in that small clip. They probably had both games planned out and made only to move it all over to the Dreamcast, and as time went on it became infeasible to give Suzuki what he wanted for 2.

Shenmue 2 > Shenmue

>>4980153
That's what made Shenmue 2 great. You really feel like an outsider in the weird shady world of Hong Kong

>>4980590
Sure, but Hong Kong did have an certain atmosphere that almost made it feel mystical, the music gives way to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3NbKmpyZMo&index=3&list=PLOMn2ijJRJPHsNrLL_BH2VKQn-frzEZJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2frN06qNKq8&index=4&list=PLOMn2ijJRJPHsNrLL_BH2VKQn-frzEZJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8A3mTjEekk&index=6&list=PLOMn2ijJRJPHsNrLL_BH2VKQn-frzEZJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2DkOKhhYkk&index=7&list=PLOMn2ijJRJPHsNrLL_BH2VKQn-frzEZJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd0nyQANalU&index=8&list=PLOMn2ijJRJPHsNrLL_BH2VKQn-frzEZJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO2g5W5NKAs&index=9&list=PLOMn2ijJRJPHsNrLL_BH2VKQn-frzEZJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjY_6LACpyk&index=19&list=PLOMn2ijJRJPHsNrLL_BH2VKQn-frzEZJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEYpZgt_c24&list=PLOMn2ijJRJPHsNrLL_BH2VKQn-frzEZJG&index=20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YamI0Fw151s&list=PLG1Xn_deqLe1cAEG2gDL6Xw7kd6TdNmR-&index=49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25C8dx3PJ0U&list=PLG1Xn_deqLe1cAEG2gDL6Xw7kd6TdNmR-&index=52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfG12sWjx2E&index=54&list=PLG1Xn_deqLe1cAEG2gDL6Xw7kd6TdNmR-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_czU5jLxJjE&list=PLG1Xn_deqLe1cAEG2gDL6Xw7kd6TdNmR-&index=69

>>4979916
shem 1 had the comfy and cozy small town 80s japan feel but the bigger and open map of shem 2 was pretty good also,didnt like the bit at the end as much with those towers as it was a bit confusing but both games delivered a good cultural experience.

>>4981973

why would he ever think sega would let him stretch it out that much?

>>4982626
I'm guessing his constant successes, dude gave them Outrun, Space Harrier, Afterburner and Virtua Fighter, along with being a very talented programmer who'd probably do a majority of the work instead of letting the newbies do it.

Sega probably thought he had something here as well, and it'd be the Saturn's saviour and then the Dreamcast's saviour and soon enough sell double it's budget just like Suzuki had done for them in the past.

>>4981108
You can know where it can go by predicting the bouncing, just sometimes the rng can fuck you up. But like you said, shit is damn fun.

>>4981973
In the past the 16 chapters were a thing, but few years ago he said he wanted 11 and showed some drawing concepts for each chapter which gives the idea of what will happen with the story.
Going back to 98 or 99, the original trailers for Shenmue were 90% about Shenmue 2+the intro cutscene, which meant that we were supposed to get in Shenmue 1, Yokosuka chapter+2. There is some interview Yu talks how the releasing of the chapters were changed, which you can assume Sega thought "this shit is too much for 1 game, let's split into more games and get more money back". Which was also the reason that back then there were rumors how Shenmue, after 1, would be released every 6 months and later that rumor that Shenmue 2 was supposed to have 6gd roms instead of 4(with pics of a new area Guilin in some training area with L button qtes)
Oh yeah, the boat chapter(2) never happened because Yu realized it would be boring for the player. That's why there is a short comic explaining what happened there.

>>4981973
He had a concept in mind, the story boards done. Characters like Ryo/Akira, Lan Di, Xiuying, Ren, Chai were in from the beginning.

>>4982626
His success and AM brands. This idea was revolutionary for the mid 90s, so Sega had to give a go. And Yu did what he said he would, he and his team acomplished some amazing stuff for the Dreamcast. Look how Kowloon could fit on only one gdrom, shit is just insane.
The worse part was Dreamcast's death, because he already had the engine done and was already working on the newest chapters. There was even a bunch of soundtrack themes never released since some were saved to Guilin chapters which are damn good.

>>4979947
>>4980130
Reminder that after this year we end the Heisei Era and start a new one.

Chapter 1: Shenmue 1
Chapter 2: The Comic
Chapter 3-5: Shenmue II
Chapters6-?: Shenmue III

I know that III isn't going to be the end, but how many chapters did they say it will be?

>>4983865
3 is only the continuation and the end of the Guilin part, so chapter 6 &7 probably? I mean, if it needs a Shenmue 4 at least to finish a story(and not the story) it should 2 chapters at least and 3 chapters at most.
Yu also said that S2 had ideas from other chapters and that 3 will happen the same.

>>4983905
So what are the chapters then?
Chapter 1: Yokosuka
Chapter 2: the Boat
Chapter 3: Hong Kong
Chapter 4: Kowloon?
Chapter 5: Guillin?
Chapter 6: More Guillin in Shenmue III?
Chapter 7: Middle of Shenmue III?
Chapter 8: End of Shenmue III?

So you'd need like 4 more games then after III. That's insane.

>>4983940
What matters are the 11 chapter concept art for the story boards seen here around 16:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amu0_EunHmM
That also explains a lot of stuff how Shenmue happened.
Anyways, in some later interview Yu said that Shenmue 4 would be enough to complete the story

How do I speed shit up? There's so much down time with nothing to do.

>>4985848
You cant do that in 1, only in 2. Use that time to arcade, training your moves to master them and combo better(parking lots or dojo), try raffles at the tomato shop or get winning cans from the vending machines.

>>4985848
I call my girlfriend Nozomi 20 times a day. Her phone number is in the notebook.

Forgive me 4chan for I have sinned, I confess I enjoy watching shenmue let's plays more than actually playing the game. The dub is so comfy in an awkward way.

>>4986414
The phone mechanic was so underdeveloped. It could have been really cool to log all these different characters' numbers and just be able to call them up at random times for random or helpful lines. Instead you only get a handful of numbers and the majority of them just result in a generic message or no pickup. Hoping 3 fixes this

>>4986431
Because it reminds those weird english dubs over japanese martial arts movies of the 80s.
And some voices were good. The interactions of Ryo with Guizhang and Ren were also good.

>>4986436
You can get different talks with Nozomi, but that depends of what you did before and what point of the story you are.

The first Shenmue opens with a really quiet and pensive tone. I really like the atmosphere because it feels like the first Alone in the Dark if it was designed by Kurosawa.

>>4979916
You're in Japan instead of Britain

>>4980153
Hong Kong is British dumb cunt

>>4986831
British Japanese Chinaman cities are the epitome of content.

>>4979916
I remember beating Shenmue 1 and investing a whole bunch of time in it because I thought it was so fun back then, but when I got Shenmue 2 I didn't even get very far into the game at all before dropping it forever. I don't have that copy anymore, can't remember what happened to it, but I still have my original copy of Shenmue 1.

>>4986831
That's like saying India is British.

Just because you owned it for a bit doesn't mean the culture isn't Chinese.

>>4988575
>that point in 2 where you need $500 to meet Ren
That can be always a point of giving up, since people missed the gambling spots.

>>4986831
Hong Kong hasn't been British since 1997 you fucking moron. Anyone who knows anything about international affairs or alternatively has seen the fucking Rush Hour films would know that.

Because it's a finished game.

welp they fucked up shenmue 2 in the remaster like expected
cinemas are widescreen but boxed in from all 4 sides
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQDRC3Czcl4

>>4990504
Are they fmvs? What file type? Couldn't this be fixed with a mod?

>>4981973
Holy shit someone saved my shitty drawing.

>>4990504
If it's in-engine, it's because shit happens outside the viewport to position things without use of animation and such.

I really loved 2 the most. I developed a fascination for the walled city ever since. I like the stroll at the end too, a bit long mind

>get a decent way into Shenmue 2
>don't get any further because I can't stop gambling
Help. I've become a virtual gambling addict.

Gotta say I just played this on my dreamcast for the first time ever and It was pretty damn good. I beat the whole game in like 2 days just because I was so immersed in the world and story.

sorry for blogpost

>>4990504
We already knew that months ago. It would be hassle to make it work since that engine was made by Yu and its crew magic to work on the dreamcast.

>>4990534
It's in-engine because Yu didnt want to stop the flow of the game and be something automatically.

>>4990565
>street fights, arm wrestling, dice games, lucky hit, darts(also challenging those guys), more lucky hit, fucking duck races

The time i will waste on these again..

>>4990785
Look at the 4th disc and see how much you still missed out.

Anyone have a 320/FLAC link to thge OST for 1/2?

>>4988934
Shenmue takes place during 1987...

>>4988596
*50 cents have been deposited into your account*

>>4990565
Does the game prevent you from gambling after you have won a certain amount like New Vegas does? That always irked me about the game, even if it is more realistic that way.

>>4993759
There are places where the guy will say something like"that's enough i already lost too much" after a couple of rounds of consecutive wins. Some will give a prize too.
But there are many gambling spots in 2, so finding another one wont be a problem

>>4986414
based Nozomi caller

I've only played Shenmue 2 on the xbox when I was in high school. I really love it, it was something special. I just downloaded the HD port. Is Shenmue 1 really all that better?

I believe it was neccesary for Shenmue 2 to offer something different.
I loved the cosy atmosphere of Shenmue 1 too, but a lot of us hoped for the sequel to have a bigger scope so we could behold what was the power of the Dreamcast at its highest. Besides, the intimate feeling was still in the game, altough less intense.

shenmue 2 has a better skybox.

Shenmue 1 is certainly cozy but 2 has much better pacing and sense of urgency. It still has the classic leisurely pace but it feels like you are making meaningful progress more often.

Shenmue 1 has too many instances of "oh I have to do this shit again."

I remember being hyped for these when they released on DC but never got around to playing. Thinking about getting them now (on PS4) but I'm worried that they have been surpassed by the likes of Yakuza / Sleeping Dogs etc..

>>4995878
They're completely different games and comparing them it's dumb retardness.

>Here's a lead for you, Ryo. Why don't you go around to the Chinese places and talk to Chinese people?
NIGGA, DEY ALL CHINESE.

Shenmue 2 is the typical "bigger, badder, more" approach of a sequel that in deep down, really isn't. It covers more landscape but it also filled a lot of those spaces with copy-and-pasted empty rooms. There are more characters, but they are not as real and fade away in streets which is a step back from the original where characters had their own lives and schedules, and also can't interact with as many characters in the sequel. The story has bigger scale but it also goes bat shit insane with fantastical elements all over the place as opposed to being a cheesey homage to 70s Bruce Lee movies where people just wanted an excuse to kick each others' asses.

First time replaying it since I first played it on the dc. Man it's not as good as I remember it, but I still love it. Comfy as fuck.
Tried replaying the Xbox version of 2 a few years ago couldn't do it but I thinks it's because I forgot a lot about what happened in 1.

Does anyone know how to trigger the cutscene where Ryos friends meet him in his house and chat for a while?

>watching streamers sperg out over Shenmue being boring and asking why anyone would like it
Oof

>>4997120
>watching streamers in the first place

>>4997093
This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-R5egYWda8
I completely forgot about that. Since I am around day 8 i will try that in a couple of minutes.

>>4997120
>oh shit! there are actually fights in this game!
>oh no! they are attacking... wait! why isnt there a exclamation mark above the opponents before attacking

I just cant. Be trolling, or retards. I am done with this shit

>>4979916
Japan > China
Small and cozy suburbs > big open city
Forklift > lifting boxes with your bare hands

That's pretty much it.

>>4997145
Yeah that one. I remember getting it a long time ago but i forgot what triggered it. Just got to the part where i got the sword handguard in disc 2. I think i passed it already though.

>>4997145
reminder that shenmue 3 is giving in to those kinds of idiots and offering automated combat

>>4997373
You got a source for that?

>>4997145
You should check out Avoiding the Puddle's stream archive of Shenmue. His commentary is hilarious and he has the right attitude in regards to the game being old.

>>4997390
straight from the shenmue 3 website, https://shenmue.link/post_en/1006/?en
>This control system lets you automatically unleash the perfect technique in response to the opponent’s positioning and distance.

>>4997470
>will be an extension to the current battle system
So in other words not required, but availble to those who choose to use it.

>>4997461
>watching streamers

>>4997470
this seems like a negative on both ends. People interested in the real combat will find it pointless and won't even use it and people who aren't interested in the combat will feel like there shouldn't be fights at all if they just have to push a single button and watch ryo kill everyone

>>4997461
>streaming video games

It is? Shenmue 1 looks like a demo version in compaison to Shenmue 2.

>>4997502
>not leaving a video game stream on in the background while playing the same game

No one else found the chick on a superbike zooming through the old docks to be out of place?

>>4997559
You mean the red head in 2?
Back when i played 2 in high school, I didn't believe she was actually chinese.

Speaking of, I look forward to replaying 2 after I beat 1. I haven't played 1 until now but I basically knew the story because 2, on the XBOX, came with a bonus DVD that had a Shenmue "movie" of the first games cutscenes edited together

>>4997501
I disagree.
Those who care about the combat system will find the challenge of winning fight and exploring its options its own reward, and for those who would use this will be given a chance to enjoy Shenmue for the story and, lets be honest here, Shenmue is a "story-first, gameplay-second" kind of game.

>>4997593
I agree with this. Lets just hope the game is good.

They really fucked up that training gauge. This shit only updates like after sleep, instead of right after the training so you know the progress you are in. The gauge is also different and doesnt display the levels of mastery anymore.

>>4997250
Yeah, it seems one of those easy missable events. Some are related to dates too, like in 2 Fangmei's birthday, so if you do things too fast you will miss events.

>>4997559
Her dad is rich, probably owns the docks or does deals there since the absence of Zhu helped him doing better deals. Her bike is usually parked around the docks too

>>4996406
>it also goes bat shit insane with fantastical elements all over the place

If I remember well there's barely a hint of fantasy at the end. I'm afraid of 3 doing more though.

>>4997120
>watching streamer enjoy Shenmue up until the point where you have to get a job, which admittedly only should have been a short cutscene of Ryo working with the time advancing 8 hours quickly instead of a dull minigame that you have to do for 8 in-game hours over the span of 5 or more days

>>4998110
Work is not fun, work is boring shit, and Shenmue strives for maximum realism.

>>4998110
I remember there being a similar job in 2. In fact, there was at least two, one being where you have to watch a lucky hit stand. Was 2 worse than 1 about this?

>>4998476
Games are supposed to be fun, realistic or not.

Shenmue could've been a solid 8/10, but because of the repetitive and banal forklift shit, it drops down to a 5/10.

>>4998506
Working in 2 is way less mandatory and also some of the jobs are more fun.

>>4998523
>Games are supposed to be fun

Why? All the time?
Movies, books, fiction don't need to be fun.
And a game doesn't need to be fun all the time, it can try to cause other feelings too.

>>4998506
bit of a mix really. 2 isn't required as much and the lucky hit job just has you playing lucky hit with an opponent but the crate lifting is slow as fuck and you get little money. Forklift sucks but it's a bit faster if you know what to do and you get more money, plus it has the forklift races.

>>4998723
When I was playing 2 back when, I was hoping for forklift jobs but was disappointed.

>>4998872
Bernd please.

>>4998506
In 1 it is mandatory the forklift job for a few days because of story and how mad angels will try to fuck Ryo's shit every day.
in 2 you will work with crates for one morning and afterwards you can ignore and get cash from betting, but that job is always available morning and after lunch for a quick cash. Lucky hit is optional, be gamble or part time job

>>4982626
Probably because he was one of the main guys behind the technical marvel that was the Model 1 and 2 arcade hardware, turning expensive as fuck chipsets into 50 dollar chips, and then working on Virtua Fighter for it. The guy produced hit after hit that were financial, critical and technical successes for quite a while, so of course they'd invest a ton of money for something on the Saturn and later the Dreamcast.

>>4998906
it was kc tier and it was on /vr/

>>4979916

I remember those got a lot bashing and i never understood it.

>>4991051
Lucky hit is my fucking JAM. If you find the right board, it pays out pretty consistently based on decent placement, probably because the physics aren't perfect and its not quite as random as real life would be.

>>4986398
>>4985848
Shenmue was so meta. A person playing a video game to waste time has to waste time as his character to make the day go by. This character-based time wasting is upsetting to the player, who wanted to waste time in a different manner.

But yeah, that anon is right. Go to the arcade, go train your ass off in the dojo, go buy new moves/do raffles/waste your money at the arcade playing darts or that quicktime event game.

>>4998110
>>4998506
>>4998723
I actually enjoyed the forklift part of Shenmue 1. If you knew what you were doing it went by fast and also the docks was a pretty tense area story wise, with lots of people who wanted to fuck Ryu's shit up, also you had to do a good amount of sneaking and whatnot. It was a tense part of the game.

Who else visited the cat and pet and fed her literally every morning. I probably don't have to but I like doing it as a routine. Shenmue is the kind of game where its fun to roleplay in ways like that.

>>4995878
>>4995949
Shenmue and Yakuza are alike in several ways. In fact Yakuza is pretty blatantly a spiritual successor.

>>4999742
>Shenmue and Yakuza are alike in several ways. In fact Yakuza is pretty blatantly a spiritual successor.
I haven't played any Yakuza game but I've been thinking getting into for awhile now. Is Zero a good place to start?

>>4999749
Yes. Zero is the best to start with. Kiwami 1&2 are remakes of the first two games, but also act as sequels to Zero.

>>4999731
In the DC there was the passport disc. In there there was a section for the cat with information of the days, weight, etc. It was just a neat feature that the HD is missing

>Am stuck at the part of Shenmue 1 where you need to get a job at the harbor
>"We're not accepting help right now, "We're have enough people." etc etc
Jeez, when you need to get a job, you just can't get one for no reason! This game is too real.

>>4999812
That part is annoying since the notebook wont right certain clues. You need to speak with a supervisor inside a warehouse near the Tomato shop. Then he will tell to got a warehouse number 12 or 13, but scene will only be trigger until 2 or 3pm, if you miss it you have to wait another day.

>>4999916
>right
Err.. meant "write"

I didnt mind the job itself. But once you get it you lose all your free time to spend all that extra cash at the arcade and buying soda. And then the game pretty much railroads you in a rush to the end. I guess I just wish the game gave you weekends off or something.

>>4999954
>tfw completely forgot that once you start working there is only a small part of one day where is possible to go the Abe store(that closes at 7pm)
>cant get the toy raffles now that saved the money

Damn. It is really stupid how the game forces from leaving the harbor after work.
I also like how in the last day the notebook says to say your goodbyes to everyone(with unique dialogue with certain characters), but the game doesnt give much time to travel back to Dobuita and talk to everyone.

>>4997532
It's like leaving porn in the background while you bang your wife: pathetic and degenerate

So what does the word Shenmue mean?

>>4999916
Wow i didn't know you could do that. I always got the job from Goro.

>>4985848
The game is filled with hidden moments. Go walk around town trying to find them during the down time because once you miss them they're gone for good. Just to give you an idea there's two entirely optional fights you can miss within like the first hour of the game if all you do is hang outside of places until they open.

It's not. Shenmue 1 is a very cozy experience and i do think its small size and repetitive content makes it something you can really get immersed in but Shenmue 2 is a much better game overall. From the story to the things you can do, everything is stepped up from the first game and provides for a much higher quality game. Shenmue 1 almost feels like a demo in comparison.

>>4986414
I read that as you referring to your actual girlfriend as Nozomi.

>>4993227
No

Go and ask Nozomis grandma about nagai industries. You get a funny autism display.

>>5001724

...The cat goes away!?
I visited it every single day and it eventually got all better but now I have the Harbor job and I cant see it anymore. It goes away forever now?
I actually feel a little upset over this.

>>5001941
I just started it for the first time in a decade and I couldn't handle this happening to me.

Does anyone here have the cdi/gdi files for the japanese US Shenmue? Ive fucking tried everywhere. Cant find a good source of japanese files. Pic related.

>>5002376
Why does this even exist?

>>4990504
Oh darn.

>>5001941
Did you do the quest where Megumi asks you to find the cat?

>>5002827
There is point when you start working where the cat disappears. The reason is that Megumi is allowed to take the cat to her home, but I cannot remember when that cutscene with the explanation happens

>>5002827
Yeah.
The last day I saw the cat was the day O went to go get the job from Goro. I got the cutscene about the cat sitting atop the shrine and the jumping down, showing that her leg was all better.

This fucking forklift race is pissing me off right now with the other racers never leaving their line while bumping them makes you lose all your momentum.

>>5002536
japs wanted to see what the english voice acting was like and sega wanted more money

>>5002536
It released right before Shenmue 2 to raise intrest in the series i guess. Its still the only version of the game to have both english and japanese text as far as i know. You can switch just by pausing and unpausing the game.

>watch a video of someone complaining Shenmue is boring
>they just stand outside of where their next objective is at 9AM waiting until it unlocks at like 3 or 4PM
Every fucking time. Why are people so scared of exploring in one of the most rewarding games when it comes to exploration?

>>5003861
Because its the same people that complain about why there isnt a buttom prompt to feed the fucking cat

Whoever designed this lucky hit game should be shot. Biggest fucking waste of time for what amounts to the longest drawn out and frustrating coin flip.

>>5003929
Far left every time

>>5003102
>not bumping on the side on certain corners while "they carry" Ryo's out
>not cutting some corners, like that one before the finish line going in between the pillar near warehouse 8

>>5003861
They need arrows and markers with map on screen telling each places they can go in or not.

>>5003929
Some tables are a bitch due to odds.

I just save scummed some gambling in shenmue 2 for alot of money. I already bought all the move scrolls. What else is there to buy except toy capsules?

I want the crossover adventures of Tom and G-Fresh from Orgazmo and I'm quite upset it'll never happen.

2 > 1

Sorry, but 1 is basically a warm-up for 2 which actually feels like a fleshed out game.

>>5004689
To be fair, there was supposed to be another chapter in 1 that got cut which takes place on the ship.

>>5004587
There are 2 scrolls on a lucky hit stands in Kowloon
Also, you need money for duck races

Oooooooh shit, I'm so lucky that its snowing on this night. This is so "kino". Shenmue is so sick, dude.

I really wanted to play this game again but the port is so damn atrocious. There's any news about new patches soon?

The port is fine, quit being a fag and learn how to use the controls.

To those asking if the game still retains the weather mode like the original did, it does.

>>5006254
>The port is fine

Quit the disinformation, it's one of the worse commercial releases of years. I bought it because faggots like you saying "it's fine" when no one should paid a cent for it.

>quit being a fag and learn how to use the controls.
That sure will help me with the atrocious bugs like cinematics not showing, items disappearing, corrupt save files and the hillarious Ryo's floating head.

>>5006451
What do you mean its one of the worst commercial release? Maybe the console versions have game breaking bugs but on pc it works. And the pc version is the only one that matters.

>>5006485
Just finished 1 on ps4. Only had some audio bugs here and there for the qte sounds. Everything else was fine.

>>5006451
>disinformation
>cinematics not showing, items disappearing, corrupt save files and the hillarious Ryo's floating head.
I've put 70 hours on the pc so far. None of this has happened.

>>5006451
>That sure will help me with the atrocious bugs like cinematics not showing, items disappearing, corrupt save files and the hillarious Ryo's floating head.

You sound like someone who watched a YouTube video compilation of bugs, not like someone who actually played the game and encountered bugs himself.

>>5006530
Not him but I literally just had a corrupt file have to delete itself like 30 seconds ago. Tell me when this gets fixed guys, I'd probably uninstall this shit if I wasn't only at the sailor part, but I have no interest in redoing the beginning stuff again if this is that common.

>>5006530
Sure, I didn't pay 33€ for the game and I didn't play the game for two days and had to quit because the bugs made it literally unplayable.
I'm just making it up because I'm so bored.

>Just finished Shenmue 1
What a great game(movie).
Yeah, it's a little dated, and the Forklift section is a little unnecessary, but this game remains a classic in my eyes.

This was my first time playing Shenmue 1 but I've played Shenmue 2 on the xbox back when i was in high school. I'm absolutely am going to replay it now.

In the Xbox version of Shenmue 2 it came with Shenmue: The Movie. The voices in that are nice and clear. So to dub that in english they obviously had the uncommpressed audio files of Shenmue 1 right? Why not use those for the rerelease?

>>5006451
I've been playing on PS4 and ran into 1 cutscene bug and I'm on my 3rd day of forklift working. It's been fine.

>>5006647
They may have lost those files in the time since then. But also it would feel less authentic to not have that signature Dreamcast quality to the voices.

>>5006719
I'm playing ps4 too and I can't watch any cutscene, there's just a black screen with the subs. Also some events repeat everyday for some reason.

>>5006003
Man i love the snow in shenmue. Actually looks amazing and gives yokosuka even more of a comfy vibe. Too bad you'll only experience like 2 snow days before you finish

>>5006487
Also experienced some input issues, like in one of the qtes fights in the harbor. And it's rather annoying audio messing up during the qtes

>>5006507
It also happened to me on the ps4 version, the cutscenes problem, save file message of getting corrupt sometimes(which i have to overwrite again to save it right), the pooping npcs while working on the forklift, the audio fucking up(be themes having hiccups or the sound effects missing out which is fucks me up on the raffles).
I also got a first person view glitch twice, which was actually neat. Another funny glitch was getting the forklift prizes twice.

I still played this since I know what is going on, but the cutscenes having a static image of the floor or background raining is indeed a problem.

>>5006647
because it's a lazy port from uncompetent developers

>>5006915
No. I just cant right now.

>>5006551
>I'm just making it up because I'm so bored.
good to know

Damn. Was playing the motorcycle bit and the audio was really messed up.

>>5006976
I hate that motorcycle sequence. The timer is so tight and you cant skip cutscenes.

>>5006983
It is painful in the first playthrough. I havent played this in more than 10 years, but still remember I couldnt stop and break hard, just let loose the accelerator for a bit when needed

>>5006976
Same. The music kept speeding up and slowing down at some points. Im talking about the timed bike part and not the saved Nozomi song part.

>credits over
>screen goes sonic speed and skips save option
I am mad. Now I have to redo the last bit again to get a cleared save, if that doesnt happen again

>>5007091
Yeah, that was the part I was talking about. There were was a severe slowdown in the music before the tunnel

>>5007282
Ok. It saved at the 2nd time by skipping the credits.

>>5004689
I see...

>play arm wrestler or darts
>audio loops 3 times in 1 sounding like a crazy mess
How. How is it possible?
And because of the shitty hud menu, that music move list of 2 is gone.

Never got to play this. Is the PC version good?

>>5007651
It's "good enough"

>>5007665
What's bad about it?

>>5007682
It's got some bugs and some weird things with cutscene ratios, and all the real brands are replaced with generic stuff. Mostly minor stuff; otherwise, it's fine and fully playable

>>5007690
>and all the real brands are replaced with generic stuff.
What do you mean by this?

>>5007727
An example is that the vending machines used to have real soda brands, like Coca-Cola but now its just generic fake soda brands.

It only used real brands in the original Japanese release anyway.

>>5007854
well they also got rid of the timex references

>>5007882
who gives a damn

>>5007890
anyone who's IQ consists of 3 digits

>>5007901
*whose

>>5007901
(couldn't resist, sorry.)

>>5007901
>OMG THE WATCH DOESN'T SAY TIMEX THEY RUINED THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's you.

>>5007882
>references
Pay from your own pocket to get those "references" back on Shenmue, if those brands even want to be associated with a videogame again

so these two mirrors combined create the most incredible force known to man
>your pops has both
instead of dying a martyr and letting your aspie son go on a revenge quest instead of college, why not destroy the both of them?
btw I love this fucking game

>>5007959
the real question is why he had them at all. He was clearly aware of the danger considering he hid both of them and never mentioned it to anyone, might as well not have taken them at all.

David Foster Wallace remarked how strange it is that one can't reference brands in novels. Brands are, after all, a significant part of our daily lives. Which is why storytellers who go for realistic portrayals of daily life minutiae, whether they be novelists or the Shenmue developers, include brands in their stories. So once again, intellectual property laws can suck my dick.

>>5007962
well yes, what you're saying is the most obvious reasoning. But if he did have them both of them, why not destroy 1 or both? I hope it's a plot hole they cover in the 3rd game.
Wishfull thinking though I'm sure

>>5007965
I've always found it weird how companies will refuse to allow their likeness without compensation anyway. Like the exposure will result in more sales anyway and you'll make more money that the cost to just have your property in the product in the first place. Imagine how many people saw the Timex watch in Shenmue and said "yeah i wanna buy one of those".

>>5007959
>>5007962
>>5007971
In the second game they say that the mirrors belonged to Lan Di's dad, Sunming. Since we don't really know whether or not Ryo's dad killed him, it's possible he gave Ryo's dad the two mirrors to hold onto or maybe he was given the mirrors after his death. If either of these are the case then Ryo's dad could have been keeping the mirrors for the sake of abiding by Sunming's request. Anyway, he had them for about 20 years so he likely figured nothing was going to happen and had no reason to get rid of them.

>>5007736
Only the japanese versions had cocacola and other brands. Everywhere else the game was relesed it was always Jet Cola.

>>5007981
It's just a bunch of red tape that muddle copyright laws. It's a necessary evil.

>>5007959
Phantom river stone bery strong. Also, the mirrors were made in one of the dynasties through an emperor for some protective reason

>>5007962
One of thing is certain, nobody expected Iwao had both mirrors, so that was a good idea.

>>5007991
The Hazuki family seems to be important, since the family crest points to that but doesnt explore much.

My bet is that both Lan Di's father and Iwao knew about the profecy and their job was to protect the mirrors

Does anyone know how they got all the english VAs for the Shenmue 2 Xbox release? I find it funny how the english nearly matches up with the first game as far as quality goes. Doesnt feel like it changed any if that makes any sense. Still has that bad dub/campy feel to it.

I had heard that suzuki had kept the english dub close to his supervision, that they only hired english speakers that were already in japan, and that they were scraping the bottom of the barrel for the talent pool in japan.

Why Ryu looks like he has alcohol fetal syndrome?

>>5008743
Go back to /v/

Okay so something that's really bothered me since I first played this game is the letter in Iwao's room. It reads as if he knew someone was coming and he knew he was going to die at their hands. But firstly, how did he know that? Secondly, why didn't he do anything? Think about this for a minute, he had to have had the mirrors for 10+ years and nothing had happened, so what makes him suddenly think someone is going to come after them? And on top of that, why wouldn't he involve the police or at least do something to save his own skin if he knew he wasn't going to survive? He doesn't even bother to take the mirrors off his property or even put his family somewhere safe.
It just seems like such a odd thing and it's dropped as soon as it's brought up.

>>5009130
Maybe he was just tired of running. His family was never at risk as long as he handed them over it seems.

>>5009130
Because the profecy.

>>4979916
Because it was a life simulator and II was less so or not.
Developers don't make life simulators anymore, not since the Dreamcast, so this game offers what one can't get elsewhere.
Closest is Animal Crossing and Harvest Moon, but nowhere near the same deal.

>>4983856
the 90s were a mistake

>>4986414
that sounds comfy, and sometimes I wish I had that

>>5002536
to teach elevens white people speak

>>5009702
Animal Crossing and Harvest Moon are gay af childrens game. shenmue tries to have realism

Easiest way to make money in Shenmue 2?

Ive been save scumming on one shot but it taking to damn long with little results.

>>5010208
save scum & lucky hit tending

>>5010208
There's an old man running a dice game near your hotel. It's down an alley, close to the pawnshop. You can bet up to $500 per game there. You can make thousands in less than an hour through some good old fashioned save scumming. He doesn't seem to show up if it's raining though.

>>4979916
According to Jim Sterling it's shit.

>>5010260
Thanks. Found him. Then found out about warehouse 10. Won 3 times with the 4x $500 bet on Big/Small.

>>5010374
>Jim Sterling

>>5010208
Go work at the docks. It's faster and more fun than the lucky hit, and you always earn money no matter what.

it kicks off the story. introduces you to everyone.

I loved both games, but the first was more focused. but they really didn't deviate too much in the second beyond expanding on the same ideas.

>>5010686
what the fuck? do people really think doing slow qtes to move crates is more fun than lucky hit?

Only 3 winning cans so far and all 5th place prizes. I just want Super Sonic and Metal Sonic damn it.

>>5010208
Have less than 500 dollars in your pockets until the point you need to pay someone 500. Then go to the docks and talk to Delin to learn a move.
After learning the move go to a betting place like the warehouse10. Save in front of the table of big and small, bet 500dollars in Chow(consecutive numbered dice) to get like 8x the amount of the bet
Then there is a table of big and small in the docks(warehouse 12) where you can yidian pair series(same number 2 or 3times) which can be 12x of the bet

>>5010916
Buy chocolates, potato chips or caramels or tapes for raffle tickets.
Right at the moment the button input appears start counting the "swish" sound effect, while the 5th "swish" happens press the button, that will increase the odds. Also, there are unique days where the odds increases, like 24&25 december, early days of january and like 14 of feb and march.

Dont forget the Abe store(store behind the first vending toy machines) also has raffle with unique toys(like Dural) that will be impossible to go there when you start working. And the store in the harbor also has port related toys.
If you cant hear the sound, go the options turn off the music

>>5011324
>Right at the moment the button input appears start counting the "swish" sound effect, while the 5th "swish" happens press the button, that will increase the odds. Also, there are unique days where the odds increases, like 24&25 december, early days of january and like 14 of feb and march.
Good info, thanks

Just met Ren of Heavens in 2. Do i get notified before im suppose to leave Hong Kong?

>>5011682
Yes. You will know that when the notebook says something about saying goodbyes to those who helped Ryo in Hong Kong

>>5011720
>Had that in the notebook for 1. Went to Tom and couldn't say goodbye to my nigga Mark.
>You will never be on Mark's forklift team

>>5011750
In 1 it is weird, since there are unique dialogues for a bunch of characters, including those on Dobuita(like Nozomi) and Ine-san & Fuku-san if you managed to get back to your house, but there is such a short time that you have to choose only one option.
It seems like you were supposed to have time for goodbyes, but for whatever reason it was scrapped. So no goodyes to Mark, the old man,all those who helped in Dobuita, etc.

I mean, the last part of the game when Ryo starts working it takes all the freedom you had with free schedules and you cannot be back to Dobuita before 8pm except for one day. It was a bad decision, since now that you had the money you couldnt waste it without having issues

>>4979916
Shenmue 1 and 2 is $29.99 on Steam.
I never had a Dreamcast so I've never played these games. is it worth it for 30 buckaroos?

>>5011816
Yes. Theres some cutscene and audio glitches in part 1 and ive run into some UI glitches in part 2. None of them a big deal like some are making it. Definitely worth the price, although im biased because ive loved these games for years.

>>5011834
will this game consume my life?
like Skyrim did

>>5011840
Depends on how you play it. You can take your time and explore every nook and cranny or you can just go and follow where the story takes you. The world is worth taking your time in though. Its very detailed. Just remember as your playing this released in 99.

>>5011875
I was that kid who checked every single area on the map with the ItemFinder in Pokemon. so I didn't miss any hidden items. I guess you could say I'm a completionist...

>>5011834
This game is something else. It's a top 5 game to me, but I generally have a hard time recommending it because it's very slow (especially 1) with somewhat bad controls (you'll be too used to modern controls). I mean if you like adventure games that are comfy and just looking to idk chill while playing it's worth it.

>>5011923
if I'm playing it on PC, should I do mouse/keyboard or plug in my gamepad?

>>4986436
Metal Gear Solid kind of advanced the concept, didn't it? I mean, you only have a handful of Codec/radio frequencies, but dialing any of the main cast will net you any of some 20 conversations each, makes it feel so lifelike. MGS3, although not retro, does a great job of this with Para-Medic being able to give you a new movie trivia question almost every save.

>>5011926
Never played with m+kb so idk desu

>>5011923
>(especially 1) with somewhat bad controls (you'll be too used to modern controls)
I dont think this is a problem. Every game has difderent controls. Should only take a little while to get use to. Ive played these games such a long time ago and have played tons of games in between. Didnt have a problem going back to the tank style controls.

>>5011840
Both games will have a deadline. 1 around March and 2 at the end of June

>>5011886
>thinking of getting every toy on Shenmue

Enjoy completing Hang On, Space Harrier, Outrun and Afterburner with only 1 coin. And beating the 10k point/highscore.

>>5011923
You can overcome the tank controls by running and analog sticking the camera around to turn around easily.

>>5012046
1st game deadline is april 15th.

>>5012050
Right, when spring and the cherry tree blossoms fall.

>>5012046
wait, what! are you serious?
is this some Majoras Mask shit?
limited time? no way. I'm keeping my 30 buckaroos. that's like some demo disc shit. no way.

>>5012293
To reach such dates you either will waste hundreds of hours, or fail HARD on certain points of the game that can be wasted months on)
1 starts in December. 2 at the earliest can start around mid january

>>5012293
It's super hard to do my man. I can't even do it on purpose. I always wanted to see
>>5012280

>>5012293
You really have to go out of your to get the bad ending. It's actually really hard and tecious to get to that point. It may as well not have a deadline for a casual playthourgh

Shenmue I is a lot comfier, detailed and more ambitious than Shenmue II.

>>5012425
>more ambitious than Shenmue II
tripfags being dumb as usual

God I love this stupid fucking game. No idea why, probably 75% rose tinted glasses. Anywayss, just wanted to shitpost while I waited for the bus(ingame)!

>>5012450
>not using the cassette player while waiting for the bus

>>5012473
>Implying i wasn't listening to the epic Shenhua while posting
Anon, please

>>5012425
>tripfag
>being an absolute retard
Yep. Everything checks out.

>>5012480
Disappointed. You should be hearing Magical Sound Shower

I wish i had played Shenmue 2 years ago. This is a great game. Always loved 1 but never felt the urge to play 2. Man did i miss out.

>>5013875
Hey it's ok you're playing it now.

>>5011886
Faggot. Shave that beard

>>5012507

Always my first choice for the 3rd prize.

Im looking forward to giving 2 a third shot. I loved the first one and bought the second one bootleg from a local independent game store in '01. I couldn't get into it. I guess maybe cause I already had he PS2 and was kinda done with the he DC at the time.

>>4979916
Playing through 1 right now. Im loving it all over again. Never played 2 but looking forward to it. Im at the warehouse and I see black hotdog man is also there. I have a habit of chatting everyone up. The game feels like a friendly neighborhood.anf tthat's when I realized, Ryo doesn't eat food made by blacks or Chinese.

>>5015976
Also. Im chilling back here with bhm and honey San sipping on some vodka and sprite and I also realized. Dreadlock physics. That's fucking outstanding. I love it

>>5016005
Also. Ryo kinda looks like he shit himself.

>>4990565
Aris pls stream

Jesus christ. I hope they fix the input on some of the qtes, because those qtes in Shenmue 2 where you need to press 2 buttons at the same time are a mess.

>>5016058
Drunk anon here. Shenmue 1, excite qte. The old school one. How the fuck do I play?

>>5016090
The only button that matters is the middle one, the left one shouldnt be there(glitched). It seems some of the directional inputs dont work either. Better wait for the patch that is supposed to be release next week or simply ignore that minigame as I did.

>>5016102
Will any patches effect my save state? I've marathoned all day today. Still in December and hanging out at the docks. Slowing down because I'm toasted. I love hanging out with Ryo. In one hand, We are him, but sometimes, in my eyes at least, he breaks the fourth wall to give us his input. Or..if taken literally, he talks to him self alot. Haha. I like my take better. I beat one a long time ago when I was like..11 max. So this is all new to me. It's very immersive

>>5016110
Tbh idk how old I was I'll be 28 in 19 days

>>5016110
Doubt it, since day 1 patch already happened. It seems pc users got a patch today, console will be late next week, which for me means it will only matter for a later playthrough.
And be aware that using the savefile of 1 in 2 means you can start 2 around mid january which means it will be annoying to waste days for a day event in 2(like early march)

>>5016113
I was...... had less 18 years on me, which means some anons hanging around were babies back then while i am getting too old for this shit.

>>5016163
I just remember being at the tail end of the rapture that was don c adventure. And my mom figured out how to emulate old game on it. Hard nostalgia. Back then, I made / begged mom to get me a real copy of shenmue because I figured it was too hardcore technical to be appreciated via a pirated copy (which was easy back then). Same reason I never played 2. Didn't want to bug mom again. Ah..memory lane

>>5016176
Sonic adventure*. Lol at don c. Don C gotta go fast

How do I cash in these damn casino coins. Also I crashed on the fifteenth after showing grandma the crest and fucking around so this time I showed her and am letting a day go by. The date was the 15th of Dec warning
Frigid grandma

>>5016291
You dont get cash, because it's illegal. You get toys for getting triple 7s on each machine(1,5, 10 and 20) and to get some certificate paper that seems it can be sold on pawnshops in 2.

>>5016296
I got one my bro thanks for the training

where's my late night Shenmue crew at? About to play ther 70 man battle

>>5016480
I passed out. Im here now

I really like the atmosphere of the neighborhoods at night in Shenmue I.

>>4990565
Gormless.

>ask homeless guy if anyone is hiring
>does it look like I work boy
I don't know why expected anything else.

Is Rika-chan /ourgirl/???

I'm just gonna leave this here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPjE9riEhtA

I don't even know what to say. He runs straight for his objective, then WAITS THERE THE WHOLE TIME, then he just goes STRAIGHT TO BED AND WAITS FOR BED TIME. Then calls it dogshit because apparently he can't comprehend that this game is about immersion and life simulation rather than just going from Point A to Point B and fulfilling a checklist of objectives.

>>5017518
Dude, modern gaming is all about chasing arrows and hunting icons in a map. If there's not a trophy or something that needs to be done in order to get the 100% of something what's the point of doing absolutely nothing?

>>5017474
well she has downs

>>5017474
What is that from?

>>5017548
Now I'm sad...

>>5017518
Fuck em. More immersion for me. This game sucks me in to the point even the mundane is amazing

>>5017518
>dunkey
Well... Could we really expect anything else?

I just went to the duck races for the first time and holy shit. I went in with just a bit over $1,000 and came out with $10,000 after one race. Anyone who wastes their time playing lucky hit or moving crates is an idiot

>>5018237
Wat. Lucky Hit is for fun, crates ir for Delin groans.
For gamble is Big or Small, with Wai Sik series(or even Chow or Zhen Zhong) on the warehouse district, since a bets can be multiplied by 4, or 8, 12, 30. In Kowloon it can go 200x the bet

Duck races is for fun. More fun when you get your own duck and then retry races over and over for his stats to get better.

>>5018304
>Lucky Hit is for fun
This, I play it while pulling out my nails for twice the fun

The port is a piece of shit. They literally couldn't even be bothered to remove the mouse cursor from the game screen? Seriously? Lazy incompetent idiots.

>>4981062

It's gambling not skill, you can influence it a lot tho, there's a guy with a 50£ bet which is really easy to exploit, it's near the palm tree old guy xuenhsiong or some shit like that

>>5018380
Pc masturd race lol

>>4999742
I disagree, Yakuza is so wildly different apart from the fact that they both take place in Japan and have mini games.

Shenmue is a really slow burn game where talking to people and piecing together clues is the bulk of the game. Yakuza is following the beacon and getting to random battles constantly with wild over the top action.

>>4999742
>In fact Yakuza is pretty blatantly a spiritual successor.
Completely wrong in every way possible.

How the hell do i pass time in 2? The arcade games, the races, fights, everything just freezes the clock. It's like they want they you to just mindlessly walk around hong kong and talk to NPCs that have nothing interesting to tell you

>>5019967
? Why do you need to pass time? There is "wait" option for events to happen at certain hours. If you want to waste days for Fangmei's birthday you can fail the barber shop qte and then "wait" at the front of the store

Gambling(dices) will waste time. As training with Jianmin(old man at the tree) any time you want by leaving the area or enter the Yan Tin appartments and get back

>>5020004
Yeah it's for the sake of the birthday event. Guess i'll just do the QTE thing.

>>5018698
Someone is upset Yakuza just ripped off another game.

>>5020025
List 50 ways Yakuza is a spiritual successor to Shenmue.

>>5020023
That's what I did. That's the curse of using the savefile of 1 and starting 2 at mid January.

There is another option to waste days, like before learning about the last Wude name in the Temple, there is an option to negociate or infiltrate, forcing negociate 2 times will allow to waste a day and then wait.

Btw, in 2 HD time goes slower. You can realize how slow it goes when airing books, since in the original it can be very tight to get all books, but on the HD it can be done around 10:45 without fails.

>>5020058
I never played the original shenmue 2. Was the clock slower in the original as well?

>>5020070
The time in HD 1 seemed the same as the original. But in 2 the difference is clear.
Dont know if they will fix that in the patch, but timing going slower is great for fucking around with training and gambling, obviously not good to get to 3rd march though. That's why there should have been an option on the bed to go to sleep anytime with timeskip, it would help a lot for events like that

>>5020070
2's clock was slower than 1's in the original as well but the remaster made it way worse

Just got platnium for both games.

>>5021238
Cool, now go get a life.

>>5021247
Epic burn. Got em.

>>5021247
Who needs that when you have Shenmue?

>>5021238
The list is a disappointment. There are no trophies for the duck racing quest(be that thing on the arcade or all medals or your own duck), nothing on lucky hit, or beating someone at darts, or gambling, or getting "X number of Toys", or "choose Ren's head AND tails", or "get all photos", or about Fangmei's birthday.
They could had played around so much with trophies to make newcomers to explore the game more, but nope.

And the only annoying trophy can be the arm wrestling one, since that can be painful

Does Shenmue 1 or 2 have any time of new game+ feature? I want to do everything I can in the game but I feel like there's not enough time, and I'd like my gacha to carry over to a new file if possible.

>>5017518
>>5017535
I don't know who that is nor will I give him the click but... fuck is wrong with wanting to immediately do something? GTA games managed that just fine while having a living atmosphere. Yeah, sure, you can do something else. You can also let the player automatically advance to whatever they want to play, too, now can't you?

>>5022074
But the whole point of Shenmue is that it's partially a life sim. Making the player wait encourages exploring the world, interacting with people, seeing what there is to do in the meantime while you wait. Letting you fast forward to any time you want to rush through the story would defeat the whole purpose.

>>5022079
Again, you're able to accomplish exactly what you said while allowing for an (optional) skip. I'm one of those fags that do try to role play and advance my time realistically. I also, sometimes, just want to accomplish a certain thing right now. It's not like my compromise is crazy talk. Autopilot AI exists in Soccer games, too.

>>5022059
You can carry the savefile of 1 into 2 and keep adding toys to your collection.
Otherwise, have a savefile in 1 when you are looking for Charlie so you can arcade whenever you feel like. In 2 you will get warnings of points of no return, so you can savefile at those points so you can fuck around with lucky hit, gambling, street fights, etc.

You have enough time, since each game gives like 4 to 6 months as a limit. Doing everything in the game is a pain in the ass though. It means doing all raffles(Abe and the 2 tomato stores), all toys(means getting high scores on arcade games and 1 coin runs), getting all certificates on the slot machines(and toys for all 777s machines)
And there are always missable events. Probably with a guide you can get them all in 1, but not in 2 since in 2 there are a bunch of events with different scenarios if you fail them or getting in the 1st or 2nd tries.
I dont know if it's possible to have every clue written on the notebook, never cared. But i know the fortunate teller also counts into that.

>>5022074
It is wrong because the intend of 1 is to chill on your hometown and take your time. If you cannot wait, then ignore Shenmue 1 and skip to 2 since there is a "wait" option. Or just ignore Shenmue since it is not your thing and play a more action featured game.

>>5022125
I've already played and enjoyed these games. You don't need to tell me about them. I'm just wondering why folks are holding on to "intent" when other games prove you're still immersed when using a FF feature. I am the epitome of acting out like a Japanese man with these titles but I also don't see harm in not holding people hostage if they don't wanna do something in particular right then and instead another task. Story isn't even the only time locked thing so it's a bad assumption that it's just for that.

>>5022125
4 to 6 months in game time? Holy shit, I'm trying to knock out as much story in a single game day as possible and it feels like I can complete it in a single week. So I can go full days just don't nothing and fucking around if I really want to?

>>5022143
I hold on certain games like Shenmue. For some reason people miss things in 2 because they dont explore and go straight to the story.
It always amused me that for years people didnt knew about the duck racing and thought that was a lie. Or how you get your own duck and train it by racing more times. Some goes how some arcade machines are hidden in Kowloon, hell, even in 1 there are people that missed the Abe store or Nagai Industries because they dont bother to open doors when the game tells "zoom things, open things, explore things"
These are part of the charm of Shenmue as you know.

>>5022156
The limit leads to bad endings. 1's limit is 15 April, 2's is 31 June(yes 31).
If you finish 1 before the end of december by using the savefile feature, 2 will start early-mid January.

>>5022176
Yeah, but the same way I wouldn't hound a guy for not playing competitive Pokemon (and it is very tempting), it's still their prerogative to stick with the barebones quest and be done. I don't know, it's cool that guys like us 100% these games over multiple saves and enjoyed it. I just don't buy forcing people will make them appreciate it. It has to be natural and I think it's genuine if a typical player wants to know what happens next from their curiosity. I think I can also trust them enough to notice other things going on as they run around. Something always catches your eye.

Why the FUCK is getting those lucky hit scrolls so god damn hard? I'm losing my mind over here

>>5022191
Well, i guess I cannot argue that.

>>5022248
I do remember those being a bitch to get.

>fucking penguin's speed
>that running animation
>finishing the race on 33 to 34 seconds

Kek. Crazy mother fucker.

>>5022191
Why the games always need to adapt to every need the players can have? That's just a path to oversimplification, leds to shit difficult, auto-travel and lots of negative things associated with instant gratification so common this days. "Forcing people" is not a bad thing, it's actually key in good game design.

>>5023034
If you took my back and forth as "make games easier" then you're reading past me. Nothing made the game easier.

Shenmue 1
>story is simple and grounded, just about a kid looking for info on his dad's murderer
>character strength is realistic, guizhang can kick a girder and break his leg
>prophecy is very ambiguous and simple, can be taken with no interference to main story
Shenmue 2
>story is over the top and exaggerated, ryo travels all around china taking down gangs and saving peoples' lives just to find one guy
>character strength is unrealistic, ryo and ren can fall from a building onto the top of a truck and walk off without a scratch
>prophecy is forced and fantastical, ryo and shenhua have been chosen over thousands of years ago, floating swords and giant replicas of the mirrors appear

hmm

>>5023440
All of Shenmue 2 originally was part of the first game. They broke it up into 2 games as the project was becoming to large. So the point you are trying to make is invalid.

>>5023551
Many large stories are written as one big story and then split into multiple books but that doesn't mean one book can't have better writing than another.

>>5023571
But the writing of Shenmue was always included the magic mirrors, the prophecy, ect. You just didnt get to see any of it in the first chapter.

>ctrl-f "izumi"
>0 results
Wtf why are you not talking about best girl, /vr/?

>>5023440
>>5023440
Wrong. You got the first part right.
>story is simple and grounded, just about a kid looking for info on his dad's murd-
>Ooh gashapon machines!
>PACHINKO!
>OH CASSETTES! God damn this is awesome! Its the 80's and these are new tech to me!

Shenmue 2
>Fuck where is the place I can buy gashapons? Wasn't I spose to do something else? Ah well...maybe if I turn down this street I'll find a gashapon machine.

Everyone is so nice and friendly in Japan. It is a nice world I like to experience. Everyone knows Ryu, Ryu is friendly to them.
Everything is dirty and shit in China. People are assholes, everyone is rude, people steal from you, YES little kids mug you. China is just a terrible shithole and not a nice place like Japan is.
That's why I personally do not find much enjoyment in 2. It isn't a nice and cozy place like Shenmue I.

>>5024249
Grow up. The real world isn't some cozy little place where everyone's nice and friendly to you. The real world is a cold shithole full of rude assholes who will gladly steal and mug if they need to. Nobody wants to get to know you and nobody gives a shit about what you're doing.
Shenmue 2 is simply being realistic.

>>5024267
>The real world isn't some cozy little place where everyone's nice and friendly to you.
>The real world

Guess why I am playing video games? Grow up? This is a board where grown up man babies talk about retro vidya. This place couldn't be any further away from REAL LIFE and GROW UP.
I've decided against growing up over 15 years ago.

t. Manlet

>>5024267
>The real world is a cold shithole full of rude assholes who will gladly steal and mug if they need to

ALSO that isn't really the case. 80s Japan in the middle of nowhere was a friendly place where people were friendly. HECK look at any Japanese podunk now. There still isn't much crime going on if you aren't in the city. People will be friendly.
Chinese are just rude assholes so both show a reality.
See one guy might be living in an American ghetto where he gets mugged by street gangs and the other one might live somewhere in the country side where it is still peaceful. So really both shows reality. China is just a dirty shithole with rude people. Everyone knows this.

>>5024306
Okay, I've lived in Japan for three years. I will personally inform you that they have scumbags around, too. They are simply more subtle about it. I can't believe I have to even tell someone this. Even in Denmark, select groups are assholes. There is no fantasy region.

That said, I enjoyed my time. It's just asinine to act like the place and its citizens are perfect.

>>5024361
Forgot to mention I lived near the mountains, so this isn't a city anecdote.

>>5024361
Nice try, Chang. Japan > China

>>5024363
I don't think the place sucks... I haven't and don't want to try China. I've heard enough stories. Just saying not to bullshit people. Old Japanese men really think they're slick with foreigners.

>>5024369
They are. A Japanese man fast talked me into buying a sega genesis that was fully restored. I took it home and found out it was just a microwave oven.

>>5023440
There is mirror plot, emperor who made it, the dynasty plot, if you show the mirror to the antique shop(the one that sells scrolls), to that chinese translator and the old man at the park.
The intro in 1 with Shenhua is the prophecy being told.


>>5023621
>Izumi's tights
>Xiuying's legs and ass
Damn. On Izumi's case, she wants to hang out with another japanese, since her job is damn boring.

Question:Do you ever have to utilize either Fire or the Police in this game?

>>5024405
No, just lines that Ryo will handle revenge on his own and he is too old for pranks.

>>5022074
Nothing is wrong with that, and I prefer GTA over Shenmue for that reason. That guy is nonetheless missing the point of the game which is to be a slower paced action adventure game. If you're finding yourself waiting in the game at any time, you're not soaking in the environment properly.

Favorite move, /vr/? Big fan of the elbow assault for quick but strong attacks though I think the full arm break fire is probably my overall favorite.

>>5025727
Ive never been able to do Arm Break Fire.

On a side note, i finally realuze how bland Yakuzas world and combat is after playing Kiwami 2 after Shenmue 1 and 2 back to back.

>>5024249
>passerby tell you to fuck off in Japan
>passerby hold hands with you to take you where you want to go in China

Completely forgot how the Pine arcade fights arent in the Shenmue collection(on the menu where you can replay minigames and some fights). Which sucks, since those fights are the best and way too early in the game.

>>5025727
Arm break is cool, but I prefer Stab Armor(advanced) and Hind Blow.
Shame that the only place where you can pratice grab moves comes so damn late in 2.

>>5025973
If you waste time praticing the moves it feels great, since some moves will change into better versions and can also be mixed into other moves as combos. Those who dont waste time with training will miss these and then think the gameplay sucks.

>>5024405
jesus, is that what the remaster looks like? that texture on the book is horrible

>>5026228
>Those who dont waste time with training will miss these and then think the gameplay sucks.
Ive never really trained outside sparring with Fuka-san and i love both games.

>>5026078
>passerby hold hands with you to take you where you want to go in China
Dealing with mainlanders is weird at times.

>>5026250
I don't remember it looking that way. The port is atrocious for other reasons though.

>>4983865

Yu needs to finish the story with Shenmue 3. My heart can't take waiting for a 4th one.

>>5026756
He's not doing that, already confirmed. He said he could rush the story to end at 4th but the ideal would be at least 5 games.

>>4983865

>>5026760


>>5026760

then we will never see the end

>>5026836
Do you expect Shenmue 3 to fail that much?

>>5024306
>There is no such thing as bad people in Japan

Lmao

>>5024306
http://japaninsides.com/44-days-of-hell-the-murder-story-of-junko-furuta/

>>4979916
I need some help! Im at the end of 1 and I'm not sure how to transfer my save over to 2. It's like I didn't get the option to save

>>5026867
Well, I played through again and this time skipped the credits. Was able to save

>>5026250
The new font is terrible indeed. I have been ignoring most of the time the notebook since I know what to do, but for those who dont, some words are hard to read.

>>5026269
Good for you. But you are missing those mastered moves, like that arm breaker gif that can be useful on those lv16 fights(on the Shenmue Collection in 2)
>>5026691
>playing 2 in japanese
>Sam & Larry(those 2 gang members that hang out with Cool Z) speak english words sometimes on cutscenes and when fighting
>training with Ryo and he groans in english
That's something new, I heard the Yuan's female jpn va is in one of the fights despite the japanese version of this game using its male voice.
There is also this weird glitch where characters stop motion and have stand still face image while speaking.

>>5026756
Open ending confirmed. So if 4 never happens, people can take that.

>>5026764
That is wrong. Yu shown a few picture years ago how it was always 11 chapters. So, 4 games are enough

>>5026867
Glitch, it happened with me and others. You need to redo that shit again, then skip the credits 3 times and hope the save screen stays. If not, try again until you get a cleared savefile to use in 2.

>>5027608
>open ending confirmed
Its not being left open for interpretation. Its just not being finished. Expect another clifhanger.

>>5027761
It can end with Ryo overcoming his revenge, leaving more plot about ancient times open to the 4th game and that being Ryo's new motivation for a new journey.

Another stupid glitch, trophy related, but stupid
>supposed to get a story related trophy when reaching Kowloon
>didnt get, find it weird and google
>"Doing Fangmei's birthday and saying goodbye in the apartament means you will miss the trophy because another glitch.. You have to ignore the goodbyes and get another scene with her when leaving the temple"
What the fuck. You are supposed to say the goodbyes. How can they even fuck a trophy that cannot be missed
At least i had a save before giving the money to Ren, since I knew the moment Ryo gives him the money it will lose the freedom of aberdeen and leave to Kowloon. Having a save before that is great to fuck around whenever you want

>>5027830
That would be cool. If the 3rd game ended the revenge plot, a 4th entry of just comfy town exploring and talking to people would be fucking great. Solving the mystery of the mirrors and floating swords.

>have to choose between monkey roll and arm break
>have to choose between heel sweep and crawl cyclone or mud spider
No wonder those who got the lucky hit scrolls say those moves sucks for the trouble they give.