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Old konami.

>>4979141
I like current Konami's pachinko machines :-)

Kind of both. Gracious was the shit but Silent Hill 2 is my favorite game. ZoE 2 was pretty dope, I never got into Castlevania.

>>4979141

I don't like Konami at all. All their games are mediocre at best. The best game they ever made is Contra hc, and even that pales in comparison to arcade games from that time. It's a blast to play in two player mode though.

Don't give a fuck about any of the series you listed in nu-Konami so old it is. It's a bit of an unfair description though because many of the best games in series you put in old Konami are fairly recent.
>>4979356
Contra series doesn't pale in comparison to arcade games at all though, the only thing that can compete with it is Metal Slug and those games have a very different gameplay style so not playing both is doing yourself a disservice. Preferring HC is pleb-tier.

I'm an all-around Konami fan.

When I see it on a screen I immediately start to relax when it comes to retro games.

>>4979380
agree

old konami = good
middle konami = good
modern k*nami = ea tier bad

>>4979141
Would Gradius V be considered nu-Konami since it was on PS2? If so, I may have to go with nu-Konami,

>>4979374

i own a neo geo since 93 and i crap on metal slug, metal slug is a magnet for cringy hipster casuals like (You). Go play some real games dude.

>>4979501
lmao what is this retarded post
>Go play some real games dude
Such as?

>>4979501
Also lol @ mentioning that you own a neo geo as if that gives you any credibility, anyone who isn't a credit feeding shitter would mention that instead

>>4979141

Old Konami TBQH

>Suikoden
>nu
>anything /vr/
>nu

>>4979480
No, since it's a sequel to an '80s series and wasn't a radical departure like for instance SotN was for Castlevania.

>>4979141
Tokimeki is part of old Konami

>>4979374
>>4979356
What are some good contra like keep arcade shooters?

didn’t know Konami was still making games. These games don’t have this Konami-feel to them.

>>4980345
I dunno, it was pretty infamous for being a radical departure from everything Konami was known for at the time.

>>4979153

buster busts loose is kino

>>4980354
>>4979843

>>4980345
Tokimeki is when Konami died. It's also not an '80s IP.

>>4980379
Why?. and are you going to say that IPs like Goemon that had games on 90s are bad?

Old Konami games makes you happy just by seeing pictures of the games or flyers: colors everywhere, fun, sense of humor, good art, etc.
Also, their "mature" games like Metal Gear, Contra, Castlevania or Snatcher have a lot of style and personailty.

I prefer Capcom games, neverthless.

>>4980379
No? They were still pumping out great games during the Tokimemo boom. You sure you're not thinking of Love Plus?

>>4979141
Old Konami.
Rondo is peak gaming.
>>4979356
Lol, now this is shitposting.

>>4980472
>Crapcom
You're playing

>>4980351
There arent many, there are the other Konami games like Sunset Riders and Mystic Warriors, Gunforce 2 and maybe Midnight Resistence

>>4979141
new konami, mainly for the rhythm games and yu gi oh

>>4979141
As much I love MGS1, I hate how its runaway success began to steer the company into a different direction.

>>4979141
Konami never handled the change to 3D games well. All their best games are 2D. what happened to all their talent? Was it the death of arcade games?

>>4979141
Old Konami. Those games you listed were made by other studios and Suikoden 1 and 2 are terrible.
The original Konami were kings in the 3rd and 4th generation but then they split off into dozens of other studios and teams like team silent, treasure, kojima productions, KCET, KCEJ etc etc.

Lets take a moment to appreciate Konami Kukeiha Club. Konami always had the best music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcvu0fcBdYk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjPtRvS-5rc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sko70OW_-n8&list=PLxQTg4QeR3lUVfcDYqSth17nxqD8ztCU9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt3fNTUWnd0&list=PLDB7F7CD8C06C12DD

>>4979443
modern konami makes ea look like frictional, the creators o penumbra

The only Nu Konami series I like is MGS and I couldn't be bothered to care after 3.

On the other hand the only Old Konami series I liked was Castlevania and I stopped caring when they took the Metroid route.

Turtles in Time can be the tie breaker I guess. Old Konami takes the lead.

>>4979141
It's tough.
Old Konami was borderline God tier with their licensed games and Castlevania.
But nu-Castlevania has YGO, which I'm madly in love with, even if they treat it like crap.

>>4979141
Old Konami: Had Contra, Goemon, Classicvania, Snatcher, Policenauts, Twinbee, Salamander, Gradius, early Suikoden, the best licensed games that rivaled Capcom with TMNT, the Simpsons, Tiny Toons. Simply hearing their classic jingle meant that you were in for a damn good game.
Nu-Konami: Has Yu-Gi-Oh!, ZoE, Igavania and the irredeemable trashvanias and Metal Gear Solid

Gotta give it to classic.

>>4979141
All the games in old konami are bad specially clunkvania

nu-konami had to die. sad to see it go the way it did

Old. I don't have a Juno First machine in my garage for nothing!

>>4981246
oh god you list all the pleb shit for casuals and the clueless. tmnt and simpsons didn't rival capcom at all because they were shite, violent storm and crime fighters 2 did.

>>4981864
>not vendetta
Casual poser

>>4981873
aka Crime Fighters 2. You sure sound like a guy who knows a lot about the game

What are the old Konami essentials beyond Contra and Castlevania? Looking to play them.

>>4982180
Gradius, Parodius and maybe Twinbee. Sunset Riders and Mystic Warriors are pretty good run 'n' guns. Their most fondly remembered beat 'em ups aren't good, avoid them especially if you're new to the genre.

>>4982185
I'd say Metamorphic Force and Violent Storm are pretty good beat 'em ups, even if not at the level of Capcom's best. Batman Retuns for Snes is good too, although tough as hell.

TMNT and Simpsons beat 'em ups are not perfect, but more like fun party games if you play them multiplayer. Better if you ar a fan of the licenses.

>>4982185
Thanks for the suggestions. I am interested in the beat em ups too if anyone has some recommendations. Considering how much you hear about them they must be decent. I am trying to play as many games as possible instead of separating myself into a particular camp.

>>4982249
As other anons said the best ones are Crime Fighters 2, Metamorphic Force, Violent Storm and Batman Returns. Get the japanese versions, they are better balanced. It's better to start off with Capcom arcade beat 'em ups if you want to get into the genre, though. Punisher is a great one for solo play. D&D games, Battle Circuit and Alien vs Predator are great as "party games". You do have to either play with friends, try to limit your credits or both to get more into these games though.

>>4981896
I was calling you out for not using the name that we westerners knew the game as back in the day. You only know the games thanks to emulation, kid.

>>4982371
I'm not him but holy shit who cares. Playing a game when it was new doesn't make you more credible especially if you're still bad at it all these years later

>>4982384
>Playing a game when it was new doesn't make you more credible
Actually, it kind of does, especially when you deal with kids LARPing as "hardcores gamers".

>>4982393
It really doesn't in any way, besides letting you share your very limited experience with the game usually unique to your area and culture. A 15 year old who discovered the game weeks ago but played the shit out of it is going to be more knowledgeable than someone who credit fed it a few times at an arcade and called it a day.

>>4979141
Yes... Although Nanobreaker is from 2005, it's one of the juiciest games ever made. Set the blood colors to mixed, and rainbows will spill out.

>>4982407
Forgot pic.

>>4982405
>who credit fed it a few times at an arcade and called it a day.
Why are you jumping to that conclusion?
Do you think kids didn't hang out at arcades all day long and knew all games inside out?
You seriously lack arcade culture, you only know it through MAME. Also nice projection with the credit feed, since you can credit feed all the games you want on MAME. Back in the day, you had to be very cautious because playing wasn't free.

>>4982413
I actually didn't even refer to you directly so good job getting upset. Just brought it up as an example to demonstrate that whether you played as a kid or not doesn't mean shit, it's all about how you play. But instead of challenging the guy on that, you just brought this up because this is the only thing you've got. And that's blatantly untrue, I even credit fed persoanlly the few times I bothered going, seeing most games through only takes a couple to a few coins depending on the game in question

>>4982421
Why are you so adamant into defending some random anon online, anyway?
He was a pretentious kid who was using original japanese names instead of the familiar name people know in the west.

>>4979141
My favorite Konami title is Metal Gear Solid 2, often said to be the first post-modern video game.

>>4982425
Because I've encountered this attitude a lot on here before, there's even the neo geo guy earlier on in this thread. It's just dumb way to avoid talking about the games themselves, usually resorted to by people who hardly play themselves.

>>4982435
Lots of assumptions on your part.
The fact people have played games on real arcades before you were born doesn't mean they're bad at the games, or that you're good for that matter.

>>4982439
It doesn't mean they're good at them or know anything about them either which is my point to begin with. More than that I assumed you're not one of those kids that played Vendetta/other bmups alot and got good at it because otherwise you'd just talk about the games instead of bringing this "b-but I played it as a kid" shit and hiding behind the good players at the arcade instead of speaking for yourself.

>>4982447
>It doesn't mean they're good at them or know anything about them
Not him, but I'd trust more a guy who played a game on an arcade center over someone who played it emulated. It's a generalization, but generalizations exist for a reason.

Remember that survey that said most people played 2 minutes on each credit at arcade on average, they're opinions are worhtless

>>4982476
I wonder how many minutes mame users play on average. I wonder if it exceeds 2 minutes.

>>4982472
Do you play a lot of arcade games yourself or is this a perspective of an outsider? Because in my experience it's almost the opposite, the people who played on hardware in their youth are now old and casual even if they did play well (which itself is surprisingly rare), while the younger players are more energetic and passionate despite only getting into the games now via emulation.

>>4982478
It depends, if you're the type that shitposts furiously on 4chan you obviously don't play games.

>>4982410
This looks fucking amazing

>>4982479
>in my experience
?

Nu-Konami based on your definition. Late 90s - Late 00s Konami was my favorite era for that company.

>>4982485
What's confusing? Check online communities centered around arcade games, plenty of people who played arcade games in their youth but are still terrible players. /vr/ is one of the worst when it comes to this, lots of people sharing their youth arcade experiences yet practically no decent players.

I would go with Old Konami, but Suikoden and MGS cannot be ignored.

>>4982493
>online
Nice experience.

>>4982527
As opposed to? Western arcade scenes are dead as fuck, particularly beat 'em up. If you want to talk to players, you go online.

>>4982545
>Western arcade scenes are dead as fuck
That's the thing, you had to be there.

>>4982551
So I can remain a bad player and then act elitist about it on retro game boards like you? No thanks.

>>4982545
>>4982551
Good riddance.

>>4982557
Why do you think having played the arcade at the time = bad player?

>>4982567
I don't think that, I think you and others with your attitude are bad players because of reasons I already went into before. When you don't have the knowledge or skills, you resort to this kind of elitism.

>>4982574
I wasn't the other guy, just wondering why you said that.
>I don't think that
I guess I misinterpreted your post.

>>4979141

old konami is way better. If you bought a nes/snes/genesis game and saw a konami logo when you booted it up, you knew it was gonna be a good game

>>4982604
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKIcsLw7V4I
This was the sound of heaven.

>>4982564
Fuck off, jarpig.

>>4982903
Fuck off, arcades are for old men who don't play no games. MAME and save states it's where it's at, dad.

>>4982908
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING DADSHITS

>>4982607

this and the capcom logo with the sound are music to my ears

>>4982427
By definition Metal Gear 2 is too but who cares

>>4983389
Did anyone even care about the pre-MGS Kojima games?

I love Saki!

>>4983424
Snatcher and Policenauts were cult favorites among Japanese players. There's a reason why the trailers for MGS1 namedrops them despite Snatcher only getting a hard-to-find Sega CD localization.

Also, Metal Gear 2 almost got ported to the Genesis at one point.

>>4979141
I like both, but i dont like now konami.

>>4983424
NOPE...but afte playing them Policenauts is hands down his best. Metal Gear 2 is a superior stealth game to MGS1 and Snatcher is just full of so many nostalgia goodies it's practically unbeat as a cyber punk game but...yeah, i'm sure someone will argue that one