/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[08-12] Anon shares his mods, including a monster shuffler and voice-over support system
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4969382/#4972049

[08-10] Quakecon 2018 keynote reveals some Doom Eternal concept art and gameplay footage, as well as F2P release of Quake Champions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i14lwVFY0KQ&t=5108s (Timestamped)

[08-09] MetaDoom V5 'Artifice' released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&start=1425#p1067810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTDoGsu2Idg

[08-01] Windows versions of Wing Commander 1 & 2 now moddable
https://www.wcnews.com/news/2018/07/31/wc1-hack-enables-hd-ships
https://www.wcnews.com/news/2018/07/29/kilrathi-saga-tools-released-use-to-help-identify-music

[08-01] Nightdive releases a remaster of Forsaken
https://youtu.be/OfDSXz1HTYU

[08-01] Complete Clusterfuck updated
https://pastebin.com/ww8UVrk3
https://mega.nz/#F!GdsVnKyY!tBahBv35NujhwVpUxAkpDQ

[08-01] HUMP Mini for Heretic released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101302-hump-mini-community-project-released/

[07-31] LegenDoom updates to 2.3
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=51035

[07-31] GZDoom 3.5.0 Released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=61482

[07-31] 2018 Quake award winners announced
http://www.quakeawards.com/2018-award-winners/

[07-29] Addons for Samsara
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=61431

[07-25] Brutal Doom adds in a flamethrower for whatever reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CdCKx7Dd7I&ab_channel=SGtMarkIV

[07-25] Colorful Hell updates to 0.942
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1065240#p1065240

[07-23] Fan-made PBR pack released for Doom 64 Retribution, also compatible with Consolation Prize counterpart
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=61399

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First for Eternal looks promising, may not live up to the originals but the closest thing you can get to that spirit in a modern AAA fps

jesus fuck the pain

Screenshot Sunday, to make up for the missed Saturday?

WALLPAPER DUMP, MOSTLY FROM ETERNAL

>>4973289
God, that nigger is so fucking cool, I hope he's a prominent feature of the game one way or another.

ETERNALLY IN MY ASS!

So, it's looking like I'm going to be having a live demonstration of this very soon.
I've so far only posted screenshots and descriptions, so now is a chance for people to see how it actually looks and plays.

>>4973250
A megawad entirely based on E4M2

Since Desuarchive is broken, does anyone have that gif of Doomguy punching a cyberdemon in the ass?

>>4973327
>grenade instead of gore
poor choice.

>>4973357
where do I deposit?

>>4973367
Do it yourself, anon. I trust you.

>>4973360

Just use Warosu.

I forgot how to disable texture filtering in the gzdoom menu, does anybody know how?

>>4973360
I gotcha, chief.

>>4973385

>>4973391
thank you, but suppose im playing heretic?

>>4973401
The menus are exactly the same for any IWAD.

How do ECWolf and the Wolfenstein TC for GZDoom compare for an otherwise unmodded playthrough of Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny?

>>4973403
>>4973401
>>4973391
thank you

>>4973386
That's the one. Thank you.

>doom eternal is even more cartoony and arcadey than the previous game

It really is Hell on Earth

>>4973432
>More arcadey
how is that a bad thing

hey /doom/, what kind of techno-wizardry does one have to employ to create multi-floors in doom? I've seen it done in the quake champions mod for doom, and thought the design of the doom engine wouldn't allow for it

>>4973436

3D floors are your friend, my friend.

>>4973363
I didn't really think the gore looked that good, also the live grenade in his mouth I think plays on how frequently grenades are employed, they really are pretty much a core part of the gameplay. Every pickup is 6 grenades you can use as you want (the pickup also will leave grenades you can't carry, for later), as defensive hand grenades, offensive 37mm grenades, or a chemical weapon.

It also goes into how the simpleminded AI of Doom makes the monsters inherently just constantly aggressive, how even in the face of absolute death they do not stop and will continue to advance towards you, doing what they can to kill you.

>>4973436
It's possible in GZDoom

>>4973443
oh, i guess it works in that context. I felt the gore felt better but you mention the mindless charge.

>>4973439
is that a sourceport or a mod?

>>4973452
Yeah, like you shoved it between his jaws and backed off, and he continues to pursue you, reaching over the title of the mod to try to kill you, in spite of his own impending Doom.

>>4973432
> is even more cartoony and arcadey
So it's even more like the original games? That's good then.

Maybe its the megaWAD (Moonblood) or the mod (Metadoom) but I keep going into teleporters and warping into rooms where I have 0.2 seconds to react to enemies before I am gunned down/attacked by demons/etc.

>>4973453
It's in the GZDoom engine. Go read up on UDMF and GZDoom Builder if you haven't already.

>>4973495
maybe it's time to stop playing videogames, grandpa. your skills and reaction time aren't what they used to be.

>mfw I want to play Shadow Warrior but I can't stand the way Build Engine games feel

working on my own mod and being code impaired I got a problem with a pistol I am making, basically I dont want it to autofire when mouse is held down, how can I get past that? because I dont see a flag for it on zdoom wiki

>>4973505
compared to Doom?

Its just me or does Doom64 feel weird on PC?
I tried the SDL patch for Win10 but it feels a weird to move around, I checked Fraps and its running at solid 60FPS

>>4973516
Yes, compared to Doom

If I wanted to make a fixed version of SUPPORT2 that doesn't split in the middle, how would I go about doing that?

>>4973391

tfw gzdoom fucked up the depth buffer so reshade's DoF and SSAO are broken

>>4973386
That's a horrible way to go. Poor Cyberthing.

>>4973530
use slade to extract it from the iwad
open in image editor
make a new file in slade
throw it in there
if the graphic is the same filename, it should replace it when you load it up

>>4973541

nvm, fixed it with these settings in reshade.fxh in case anyone from the future is reading this https://pastebin.com/b7ZtAWqs Just turn the normal bias and view distance up, the pockmarking is real.

>>4973336
>Contagious disease warning
Demon germs. Cool.

>>4973624
enemies in doom 2 rpg had lice and parasites and shit
unclean motherfuckers. probably even got crabs down there as well

forbidden

nobody has mentioned anything about the new MG being what looks like a nailgun

also i thought the new RL was a mix of RL and static rifle
> hitscan explosions

>>4973640

>>4973336
They're going all out, they even brought back the Cacodemon's pupil. But I won't be too interested if it's more of these 'wave-after- wave' in obvious battle arenas.

I hadn't given Quake a chance since I was younger, so I was surprised to get all of that fast gameplay with none of the bullshit that I was hoping to get from NuDoom.

>>4973339
They said in a panel that doomslayer's crucible is not the crucible, but rather a crucible.

>gameplay mod
>has 2 difficulties: 'steamroll' or 'get oneshotted'
Every time

>>4973650
it looks a lot more open ended this time. I didn't see a single lockdown sequence

>>4973674
Technically there was arena-focused stuff in the first two videos, but yeah, there was no inherent lockdowns and it seemed the monsters either teleport in more effectively or already exist depending on where you are in the map / how many in the local area you've wiped out. Judging by "Demonic Corruption" as a bar, it also sounds less like we're waiting for them to come to us, and more like we're literally going full Predator by hunting for them. I wouldn't be surprised if you still have objectives like the seeming large building-sized Gore Nests and so forth to tackle, but now you can do it at your own discretion, certain foes like the Archvile probably being a mini-boss encounter aside as the Phobos gameplay was entirely about player's forward progression.

>>4973492
Catacombs? I hate that map. Secret maps should be unique & fun, not just leftover maps.

Lets post some experiences with mapsets+gameplay mods

Epic2+Doom incarnate+Brawurst
feels consistent to kill nazis in ancient Egyptian ruins, shame the weapons mod opted to use the dumb yellow jacket for BJ, I dont like it really and your hands constantly remind you of it
as expected the weapons are a bit too overpowered in default difficulty, the brawurst enemies feel a bit samey since every low tier enemy has a machine gun and every enemy of note has a minigun, not counting the doctor, the dogs and the flying ones

Sunlust+Metadoom
Metadoom feels a bit...sluggish, I cant put my finger on it but there is something with the overall feel, the Doom3 rifle certainly sucks even with the rockets, the shotgun is fine, Im still early on the mapset

>>4973743
Might be the art style mashup in Meta

WTF why can't i disable the skeletons in demon steele, the option on the menu doesn't do nothing

How people do this kind of things?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8DrFeIfK_Q

What programs do they use? In what language they code? I only find tutorials about mapping in Quake but nothing else beyond that.

>>4973640

Also, does anyone know maps for doom thar contain high levels of interactivity with the map? like duke nukem and other build engine games

>>4973790
don't load it with brutal doom/ketchup

>>4973794
They probably use quark and quakeC

I really want to play Hexen, but since Heretic is a prequel, I'm playing it first, but it's such a slog. I just started episode 3, but I've lost interest in playing the game. Are there any gameplay mods that make it a little more interesting, without straying too far?

>>4973790
Hint: the golden boners hate any trace of BD.

>>4973505
Try Shadow Warrior Classic Redux.

>>4973802
>>4973832
I disabled ketchup
Thanks

>>4973836
I already have, but it still doesn't feel quite right, and the hud is too fucking big, AND the alternate hud options are shitty.

Blow it up your ass

Looks like the hellknights got their eyes back.

>>4973848
Me again
If anyone knows of a way to scale the hud in Shadow Warrior Classic Redux, I'd appreciate it. It's based on JFShadow Warrior if that helps.

imagine anyone in the uac wondering whether or not there's succubi and instead met up with sawcubi

>>4973860
I don't know if they look goofier or creepier.

>>4973856
Dam, thats looking good!
which mod?

>>4973963
btsx+samsara

getting graphical errors when playing dark forces 2 on win7/64x

>>4973816
Yes, there is such a gameplay mod, called "Black Plague Posesses Thee" (also known as this game's last difficulty). You should try it, it's great!

>>4973986
Thanks I'll get right on it

>>4973674

I'm just talking about 'obvious battle arenas', not even talking about getting locked in. Fights and level progression in Quake both feel quick and seamless, in Doom16 I'm on a path or in a hallway, then a big open area that's obvious for fighting - bonus points if there's big glowing jump pads giving it away.

>>4973816
Pillow went the extra mile to tailor Guncaster with tge Hexen campaing

AHH FUCK I FORGOT ABOUT SATURDAY SO IT'S TIME FOR
SCREENSHOT SUNDAY(???) BITCHES(???)
WHAT'RE YOU WORKING ON? A MAP? SPRITES? GAMEPLAY SHIT? SHOW THE CLASS YOUR WORK.

AND BY WORK I MEAN SOMETHING YOU'RE MAKING, NOT PLAYING A MAP, YOU FUCKING SMARTASSES.

>>4973995
it makes sense because Cygnisi s a dragon so when he's shooting wizards that's canon or some shit

>>4973986
>ammo powerups give 50% more than normal; monsters attack and move 300% faster; enemy missiles fly 300% faster; cheating is disabled.
>monsters attack and move 300% faster; enemy missiles fly 300% faster
>monsters attack and move 300% faster; enemy missiles fly 300% faster

Also the final (ep3) bossfight is gloriously brutal this way.

>>4973998
Already posted it yesterday. No new screens because blood puke

>>4973998
Welp. It's already monday for 10 minutes now.

I just noticed that the anthro daisy shitposting kinda predicted the hook shotgun
Im going to spoiler it because its been posted enough times already but Im pretty sure it was drawn before the reveal

>>4973998
better late than never anon, anyway
working on semi-port of l4d to doom2, got access to all decompiled maps and models, so its easy in terms of graphics, the only challenge I got are custom weapons, which are somewhere between l4d and doom, and fake "ai director" which I know how to pull off in theory, but I cant code for shit, so it will be trial and error thing, but in terms of gameplay I know what I want.

>>4974028
to add to this, it will need few custom monsters and important change will be to remove all hitscanners and add more melee enemies, reason for it is that I want semi-random spawns and hitscanners will feel very unfair with that

>>4974025
it was based on the earlier teaser
we didn't know it was a grappling hook at the time

and why do those studs on the armor look so cool

>>4974025
it's not shitposting

It's funposting

>>4974035
that makes more sense, I never noticed the hook in the teaser
the studs kinda remind me of Cloud's armor, I always imagined the studs are for pinning materia on them, it would look really funny

>>4973378
we can make a jam, like the quake dm4 jam

>>4973541
but gzdoom has native ambient o occlusion?

>>4974062
Sounds good.

>>4973436
3d floors and portals
you can also do slopes

>>4974074
It's very bad AO. The kind that constantly reforms as soon as you turn your camera, always coming into being around the edges of the screen or whenever you open a door.

>>4973292
Using this.

Anyone know a good enemy replacer for DemonSteele?
I don't really like colorful doom.

>>4974105
DemonSteele uses its own enemies. Replacing them, and thus conflicting with the balance of the lives system and the projectile based enemies, is not wise.

>>4974115
I know it uses it's own enemies, which is why I haven't used a replacer yet. I guess I should have specified if there was a demonsteele friendly monster replacer, I'm just tired of seeing the same old imps and zombiemen.

>>4973517
play doom 64 retribution

Whoops, didn't realize I was posting in a dead thread.

Is the dude who made the Infernew map in >>4968498 (Cross-thread) still here? I can record a demo if you want it.

>>4974121
I think there is an option to use DooM's traditional health system, which would help with hitscanners and such.

>>4974125
Speaking of, the readme says to replace fluid_patchset=gzdoom with fluid_patchset=DOOMSND.SF2 in order to get the sound working properly, but I played it with both settings and it sounded the same both times. Am I just retarded or what?

>>4973978
dgvoodoo with windowed menus

In the end I couldn't beat Moonblood without dying

Will I ever beat a megaWAD without dying? Aside from Doom 2

>>4973517
play doom 64 retribution

Do i need ultimate doom or doom 2 to play zandronum (or both)?

>>4974156
wasn't this exact question asked last thread? you definitely need doom 2 as the large majority of servers will use the doom 2 iwad

>>4974159
i don't know about the last thread
but thank you

>>4974146
Do you ever use the inventory items?
Just wondering

>>4973310

>>4974175

>>4974125
>>4974152
well this is much better
not a fan of the added animation on the shotgun but if I wanted the 100% purist experience I would have bought an N64

>>4973316
>>4974175

I'm searching for a track that plays on some levels of The Ultimate DOOM (Steam version), YouTube didn't help me. It's a melanchonic riff of guitar, there ain't any drum or bass or whatever pumped the OST so much on these track. Besides that i don't know what else to say, not even the levels it plays in because when i play i'm usually high as fuck. Thank you for the cooperation, fellows.

>>4973310
>>4973316
>>4973320
>>4973323
You gotta wonder how screens like these are made. Sure it uses ingame assets, but it looks too "off" somehow to be actual ingame footage.

>>4974196
Well you know you could always just enter the game and use changemap until you find it. You haven't given us much to go on.

>>4974201
photo mode

>>4973998
I wanted a quote system à la build engine games, so I wrote one.

https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/4969382/#4972049

My enemy shuffle is posted in the news, along with a Duke Nukem voice pack I fashioned together from various resources. The enemy placements and ammo get shuffled, its based on vanilla buy the spawning actors can be easily edited.

>>4974203
Thank you for the tip though, i'm such a noob

>>4974245
We're all in this together. anon

>>4974028
Pretty rad idea. Not a lot of decent co-op mods out there. A Left for Doom might be better, so you can be 4 (or whatever) uac marines in a different sorta setting from l4d. Maybe a different setting entirely. Mole people attacking, robots, reptilians, mutated koalas. That sort of thing...

>>4974253
the idea here is fairly different, while I do understand that making it for Zandro is no brainer, I am skipping it and focusing on gzdoom version, I doubt Zandro will get a release. gameplay will also be a bit more in vein of l4d, player is slowed down already, weapon/item/monster spawns are to be decided by script which bases it on player progress and internal "anger" value, much like the one from l4d, random map routes will also be there.
majority of ideas and gameplay rules are in my notebook that I fill up when I am at work, since I got a plenty of time to daydream there I analyze what can be done and what will be pain in the ass, as I work on it I will post updates, but dont expect it to be close to l4d, the only major similarities will be maps which will be ported fairly accurately

>>4974138
try moving the sf2 to your soundfont folder
worked for me on a clean isntall but I dont know what I fucked up in my original GZDoom folder

>>4974261
No, I should have specified; the sound works perfectly fine either way. It sounds like it should.

>>4974201
the engine can render at higher quality than what you see when playing, at least unreal engine 3-4 can do it

>>4974121
>>4974105
Champions.
The answer is always champions.
It's designed to work with non-vanilla monsters.

post yfw the Slayer has entered the facility

>>4974168
Not really, but aside from me not finding a good time to use them I didn't know that the player can shoot through metaDoom's shield s

>>4974281
how about i post mfw you derail the thread just like the last one

>>4973963
BTSX + Samsara at UV
It's way easier than Ancient Aliens and it doesn't tanks performance after a while (it happened with AA for some reason, even in software mode)

>>4970787

Not really, I've mostly just been working on sprite offsets so the monsters look less stupid in motion.

Also, I tested out some zorch states on the Grunt and Enforcer to make sure that the new gibbing system I set up for the Quake monsters would play nice with other damage types.

>>4974324
looks horrible, desu. Use the original md2s so they can exist in 3d

>>4974334
not him, but I am pretty sure it will clash badly with all other 2D sprites

>>4974334
>>4974340
Doesn't QCDE use sprites of model rips?

a texture wad with a leafy bush texture?

>>4974281

>>4973292
There is absolutely some of Wayne Barlowe's Inferno influencing the art direction of Eternal Hell.

I could not be happier.

>>4974187
You can turn it off in the options

UPDATE DEAD MARINE
UPDATE THE PROJECT BRUTALITY BETA

>>4974360
post the links you turbo faggots

>>4974364
I MEAN I WANT THEM TO UPDATE DUMMY

Really not a fan of Eternal's blowing chunks of meat off things while they're still alive "oh look that's their femur" gore, I hope it can be disabled.

>>4974368
FUCK YOU I HAD MY HOPES UP

>>4974334

Sure, it'd be easier just to do that, but toasters exist, and they have a hard time running OpenGL

>>4974360
I want updated BURL TUMD
the creator teased some concept stuff here but I think he dissipated from the face of the earth

>>4974220
Neat.

>>4973998
made rock

Fuck, MAP30 of Scythe is pushing my shit in. I don't even know where I'm supposed to be going, even after watching a UV-Max demo.

So there's the first part of Episode 1, this has been great so far

>tfw have to beat Chasm The Rift before I can start playing Shadow Warrior
never should've started this piece of shit

>>4974427
stop being a completionist and go play shadow warrior ya dangus
there is a gameplay mod for GzDoom if you want sawblades that much

>>4973273

whats this

>>4973998

You're doing God's work anon

>>4973250
>ABSOLUTELY FINISHED
good megawad

so on to REKKR i guess

QUICK! gimmie some good mods to play with compendium!

>>4973250
all the links for the big charts are dead links

Has no one mentioned how the BFG10,000 from Doom Eternal is a nod to Quake 2?! It has the same name as the BFG10K from Q2 and the same concept as the Big Gun from Q2. If someone could make a side by side image with the big gun and BFG10,000 to show this off that would be great, but Im a noob

>>4974625
the archive is dead

>>4974639
are all these pics on the booru?
i've seen the doom, quake, and thief ones. But i've never seen the duke or marathon ones

>>4973250
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izWv6n3QdDE
Where the fuck do I find the original copy of this song? It's not even part of the official OST release, I can't even figure out what the fuck it's named.

>>4974021
Nigger go to a fucking doctor, internal bleeding is not a joke.

>>4974630
"is that the fucking big gun" was literally the first thing I thought when I saw it

>>4974569
Metadoom, Final Doomer, High Noon Drifter, La Tailor Girl, LegenDoom.

What do you guys think is the best interpretation of the BFG?

>>4974646
nevermind, found them on warosu

>>4974463
mapset i was working on until >>4974653
indev name of LOTX, it's an episode 1 sort of thing set on the moon of Enceladus; taking place after D64.

>>4973252
Does anyone here care about HL mod releases? I just saw this on the front page and I'm wondering if this might be any good.

>https://www.moddb.com/mods/half-life-echoes

> doom 6

>>4974754
Eternal is doom 6 though.

why the fuck isnt there a version of ketchup that has blue blood for cacos and green blood for hell knights and barons

>>4974760
> doom
> doom 2: hell on earth
> doom 3
> D44M
> DEwm
i count five on that list

>>4974683
La Tailor Girl's ultra lifefiber powered BFG. Three very flashy firemodes for every outfit.

>>4974769
But what about doom 64?

>>4974769
d64

>>4974769
doom 64 dummy

>>4974778
>>4974779
>>4974781
so where does it fit on the list then?
it's more like a branch out from the numbering scheme since it doesn't have one
no, it doesn't count as the 64th game in the series, smartass
technically the third, but then there's doom 3 to fuck that up

Comfy bunkbeds

(Bloody Pulp Fiction)

>>4974795
> hanging robes
clever use of sprites

>>4974760
>>4974754
wait hol da fuk up
swap helmet for classic head

>>4974791
probably after plutonia and TNT

>>4974802
The engine is very flexible with how you can use the graphics, a lot of clever stuff is/can be done.

>>4973341
I keep getting this feeling NuDoom will cannibalize Quake's style until there's nothing left that would make a new Quake game special.

>>4974831
Are you implying that that shot looks like Quake?

>>4973642
>MG
Machine gun? The heavy assault rifle looks almost the same as before.

>>4973801
Trump Doom. But that's because it pretty much operates like a Duke Nukem mapset.

>>4974283
>Not really, but aside from me not finding a good time to use them I didn't know that the player can shoot through metaDoom's shield s
How? Grenades are easy to spam and super useful, especially the Tesla Rockets.

>>4974279
Legendoom too, right?

>>4974372
I like it, reminds me of Quake 2.

Hehehe, what a mess

>>4974152
>>4974125
>doom 64 retribution

What is this?

>>4973640
I still love that you can see doomguy's face

>>4974898
I didn't even notice that, holy shit.

Term, were you aware that they added a Devil Driver to Doom Eternal?

You should sue Bethesda desu

>>4974924
sarge from doom 3 turned into mr skeltal

>>4974372

>tfw no quake gf

>>4973998
already started ripping off DE somewhat

> all purpose thruster pack with 2 charges
> triple jump or double aerial dash
> or mix them up
todo:
make it directional instead of just forward
add downwards thrust when holding crouch midair that doubles as a stomp attack
add ledge climbing, because what you need is even more mobility

then make classes with unique wrist and shoulder mounted weapons that complement and synergise with one another
and possibly an 'armor' related passive ability (nothing to do with armor pickups)

>>4974049
but.... but No Fun Allowed.

>>4974921

This new weapon pack has got a long way to go.

>>4974950
So disappointing.

>>4974653
on second note; don't you fuckers want me dead anyway?

>>4974372
the fuck is up with people wanting to toggle off all the cool stuff?

What the fuck I thought I downloaded Doom 64 not Doom 3

>don't look through me or my son ever again

Should I buy the Quake bundle on Steam while it's on sale or just pirate them from here/online?

I mean it ain't wrong.

(Rapture)

>>4974987

>>4974987
>>4975018
I'd say just pirate them.

>>4974978
I used to think if you pressed the right button BJ would whip out the tiny gun at the top and you could fire it ala noisy cricket

recommend me a megawad, just finished maps of chaos.

so this is a thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foXyb0NmL70

>>4974372
It'll affect their behavior though. It isn't just cosmetic.

>>4974950
That's a real funky angle for shooting an MP40.
Or if it's recoil, that's weirder, it's in 9mm Luger and weighs almost 9lbs, should't recoil that wildly.

>>4975037
Whispers of Satan

Bunch of shitters all of you.

>>4975067
> pyro gameplay .webm

>>4975067
Why does that gun remind me more of an extracting machine at a sperm bank than a firearm.

>>4975075
because you wanted to make an xd funny sperm post for (you)s

>>4975037
>Doom Damnation (ddamn.wad)
First episode kind of feels like babby's first attempt at an episode replacement, but then Episode 2 immediately starts with a great gimmick and better visuals, then continues with more interesting levels. Very pleasantly surprised by it.

>Interception
Also starts slightly weak, but picks up really fast, lot of decently creative ideas. Cool music, lot of creative encounters.

>Doom 2 The Way Id Did
Meant to be a megawad of levels with a style like they could have come from the original Doom 2, that they'd fit right in. Unfortunately, and also fortunately, it's actually overall a lot better than most of Doom 2.
No new music though, so put something on in the background if you don't find D_RUNNIN very exciting.

>Nihility: Infinite Teeth
A demo episode (starting on episode 2), for the first Doom.
It's like a partial/total conversion, lots and lots of new and neat things, using DeHacked and alpha and beta resources to make something that on one hand feels very oldschool, but on another also feels very fresh.
New weapons, new monsters, great levels, all giving up a very cool challenge with a bunch of things that'll make you go "Damn...!!!"
No music, so enjoy the silence and the intended imposing atmosphere, or put on the PSX Doom soundtrack, actually fitting rather well here.
One of my very favorites in recent years, still waiting for the other episodes.

>TNT Revilution
Ostensibly meant to feel like a sequel to Final Doom's TNT, but it really doesn't, really much at all.
On the other hand, it's *really* good and stands tall on it's own merits, having kind of its own feel and atmosphere next to the original.

>>4975085
>>Doom 2 The Way Id Did
I've heard nothing but negativity for this, unlike the first DTWID.

>>4975083
Don't you get sassy with me or I'll start busting out the poop jokes

>>4975089
That so? I found it quite good.
Even does Map 7 and Map 30 better than most ever do.

>>4973998
Late to this, but I finished the art I'll be using for the new title screen for Combined_Arms, gonna make this a magazine cover later. I'm also gonna take the monsters I've made and make them into a separate, standalone monster pack so people will be able to load it with other weapon sets if they wanted.

>>4975104
>Those stars
You mother fucker

>>4974347
Strife, actually.

>>4975104
>>4975110
It's fucking LOSS isn't it?

>>4975110
>>4975125
i don't see it

>>4975104
vrack or that space map from cchest4?

>>4975128
Vrack 2

>>4975126
Look up and to the right from the center.

>>4975018
>>4975020
The only original dev hanging around still is Tim Willits and he's a grievous credit thief, or an attempted credit thief at least cause everybody else keeps showing the twat up.

>>4975104
B^U

>>4974768
There is actually. But you really have to search for it and it doesn't have options. The file I have is called "Ketchup-Lippeth.pk3"

Also, Smooth Ketchup has colored blood. That's easier to find.

>>4975125
>>4975126
I saw it.

>>4975085
Am I a bad gamer for knowing where that pic comes from?

>>4975193
No. It's from Shadow of the comet, right?

>>4975073
he's not constantly pressing JOY1.

>>4974924

Seems to me more like Sabaoth than a DevilDriver.
It'd be funny if I somehow managed to inspire stuff in Doom Eternal, but I doubt it.

>>4975194
Yes.
So I'm not, huh?
Would you change your mind if I told you I know of this game solely because of Retsupurae?

>>4975209
That's how I found out about it too.

>>4975169
Kevin Cloud is still there.

>>4973293
Why do shills try so hard?

Where are your maps, mods, or even any other contribution to this thread than being "edgy cool" by using "nigger"? How much does Tim Wallets pay you?

>>4974954
i don't want you to die
i do, however, want you to stop fucking whimpering about poor you and bringing attention to yourself

you have no goddamn reason not to see a doctor, especially if you actually are puking up blood
posting about it on the internet and then deriding people for telling you to go see a doctor is not going to help you

>>4974414
it looks like one of those "cubic watermelons" with rock texture on them.

>>4975218
Maybe it's just my opinion, asshole? He looks like he's from a heavy metal album cover, he's cool looking, and I'm hoping he'll be a good and challenging fight.

Why the fuck would I have to post any of my work in the post to make an opinion about some art? What would that add to my post besides making it feel like I'm advertising myself for no reason?
Get fucked, kid, I'll post my work how I please.

>>4973505
>>4973516
It's not Shadow Warrior, but have you played ZBlood? There's also Build engine characters available for Samsara. The addon ones aren't as balanced as Duke, but the option is there.

>>4973743
I'm playing through Icarus with Space Hunter right now. They mesh together thematically very well.

>>4973801
Shadow Mavericks HQ and Doom Center. They're not.... conventional maps, be warned.

>>4975246
ZBlood is like Blood's aborted twin or something, don't play it, just play Blood with GDX.

>>4975248
I need to replay that sometime, haven't played that in maybe a decade. Great soundtrack.

https://youtu.be/t4skEtVnFVc
Give this a listen when you're done.

What are some gameplay mods you like that don't replace monsters?

>>4975252
That cover album is fucking sick. Thanks anon!

>>4973816
Just play hexen. That's what I did. I never really liked the gameplay in heretic until recently.

>>4974791
I believe it fits after Doom 2

what are some good wads that give you good sounding (and looking) shotguns?

>>4974778
>>4974779
>>4974781
Doom 64 is not made by id Software as count as much as Final Doom, a.k.a none.

>>4975381
It's canon to D44M tho

>>4975390
Yeah... as much as the story is fucking inconsistence by many parts in their attempt to canonize everything, it doesn't fucking compute Doom 64 and Doom 3 by timelimes.

>>4975394
Doom 64 fits with 4 and 5 IMO, I mean they even make direct references to it.
Whether or not it fits with the older games can be up for debate.
3 and ROE feels like they're fully self-contained, hell happened, hell was dealt with, everyone moves on with their lives.

>>4975394
I think it's best to not even consider 3 when trying to tie together the timeline. It was essentially an alternate reality where demons invaded but that world's version(s) of Doomguy took care of it via martian/demon artifacts; OG Doomguy didn't even have to get involved.

You guys are forgetting one of the biggest pieces of lore in d44m. Mixom, one of the biggest suppliers for the UAC and a company present in Doom 3, has logos everywhere in Doom 4. This means Doom 3 and resurrection of evil are both canon. Also Mixom shows up in Rage as well. So, both Rage and Doom 3 exist in the same universe as D44M.

>>4975414
Doom 3 makes direct references to classic Doomguy in the tablets nearing the excavation site, so maybe they all fit in somehow.

>>4975414
But who's to say Mixom doesn't have it's own alternate version in the D44M world, like comparing 3's UAC to 4's?

>>4975418
Always assumed those were eastereggs.

>>4975418
I think it's a safe bet to assume Doom 3 connects in the web of realities, it just doesn't tie into recent events. Maybe Slayer fought off the demons side-by-side with the ancient martians? It does seem like time moves drastically different for anyone who's in Hell for extended periods.

>>4975414
>>4975419
I think Mixom is just a trope inside the game as RAGE universe can't coexist in the way it was if Doom 2 happened there, the Asteroid would hit the demons instead of just reseting the planet's ecosystem again.

Also this >>4975418 somehow should be considered as holy fuck, they are trying to fill the gaps between the games, but including even more shit to create more gaps doesn't help either, they should have sticked with UAC being the victim company of a mad employee with his experiments of teleportation as Betruger was in Doom 3, all that stupidity with Argent Energy and shit is pure fucking retarded, everyone knows that would be easier to fucking start a atomic fusion to make a star as a very-durable battery than AYY LMAO BUILD PORTALS TO ANOTHER DIMENSION.

>>4975420
well, Doom 4 doesn't really elaborate on the connection between the UAC and Mixom any more than Doom 3 did, so that may also just be them making a reference for the sake of making one.

however, and this is actually noteworthy, the super shotgun in quake champions does have the Mixom logo on the back end of the stock. we must go deeper.

>>4975428
You don't need to think too much about to be honest, Mixom is the machinery/mechanical parts provider in Doom 3, they still are the same in Doom 4.

Same can be said for Vorus Technologies as being the lab resources provider as Titan Offplanet Construction the company that actually builds the UAC Facilities, i think id tried to show that UAC is not a monopoly conglomerate, but actually works with other companies that shares the same ambitions/interests.

>>4975431
but that would mean they were the manufacturers responsible for the ssg. how deep does the rabbit hole go really? did they provide some of the weaponry? or just some of the components for them? I'm a nerd for that shit.

>>4975273
High noon drifter, la tailor girl, trailblazer. I like potoos. They look funny.

>>4974872
The Tesla rockets are great when you're dealing with a lot more of the stronger enemy types

>>4975431
well, they are pretty much a corporation after all

>>4974972
you sure it's not something about your gzdoom settings?

I say Doom 3's invasion was the initial invasion. Like >>4975424 said, it came and went. But then UAC, sometime down the line, decided hey, let's go back to hell because why not and boom, D44M. Doom 3's MC isn't even Doomguy/slayer. Just the sole survivor. Should bring him back as a secondary character. Some old nutjob that's just tired of hell at this point.

>>4975414
That doesn't mean that Doom 3 is the same universe as any other games. If anything, it's probably just another alternate universe. And this means that Mixom (just like UAC) is a universal constant, that exist in all (or most) universes. Also, maybe Rage is another universe, where demon invasion never happened? (I never played Rage, so I don't know how it would fit into all of this).
So, for a DooMultiverse, we have:
Universe 1). Commander Keen, Wolf3D, Doom, Doom II and maybe Doom 64.
Universe 2). Doom 3 + expansion.
Universe 3). Maybe Doom 64, D44M, D55M.
Universe 4). Rage
Universe 5). Quake Champions
Universes 6-infinity). All of the wads.

>>4975436
I suppose they are the ones which makes the gun parts by demand of UAC, just like when an artist finishes the banner for a company and they sends the file to a thrid-party graphics company to bulk print them.

So UAC projects gun and if the prototype gun is passed in the tests they probably sends a model to them mass produce those.

>>4974082
... that's what all forms of SSAO look like

not sure if metadom v5 is ever going to be in inmost dens but kinsie updated the github and one of its greatest changes is some specialy compatability with doom 64 for doom 2

>>4974954
this is how total bizcocho died

>>4975213
Yeah, and Call of Doom was entirely his own doing.

>>4973993
DID U RIKE IT???

>>4975193
>>4975194
is not like you can't search it in google

>>4975191
>>4975125
>>4975110
this is what I thought it was before I saw the darker stars

>>4975526
So? He worked on Doom, did he not?

I'm fucking stuck. What the hell should i do here? After you enter, the door behind you closes and you're apparently trapped...

>>4975556
In your left, you can shoot some computer panels that do something

>>4975556
those wooden posts tell me the invisible bridge is up already.

>>4975559
Fuck, i kept on pressing the use button on that wall. I'm such an autistic, thank you anon.

>>4975561
My reaction when i got it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5URsIK2xJbE
(thank you btw)

The arachnotron is kind of interesting, because he neither comes off as annoying or useless and so far, none of his three designs seem that bad
He's like that one guy everyone forgets he even exists, but don't hate him either

>>4975562
Honestly, that's one of those few times where the progression in Plutonia isn't fully obvious, I don't blame people for not getting it, I didn't get it as a kid either.

now sewies got the swimsuit~

>>4975590
so you changed the hair for the swimsuit or is that permanent?
I dont have a strong opinion one way or the other, actually

>>4975592
why does quake champions doomguy look like they forgot to unsquish the face graphics
probably because they did forget

>>4975589
The instant you guys told me how it worked i felt very dumb though, it's not so obvious but it's not ridiculously hard either. I've seen far worse regarding getting stuck on old school FPS... And i surely hope i won't get those ugly memories back with Plutonia!

>>4975576
He can be real pest if you use him right; ergo, put him up on a tall ledge surveying a larger area, where he's free to lay down hot green plasma towards you from a distance.
If you don't even hear him at first, you can first notice he exists because suddenly there's a lot of firepower coming down around you.

He can play similarly to the Mancubodes in this way, except he doesn't hit as hard with each shot, and is a bit less of an artillery barrage, also he's far weaker in HP. Also, while the fatass can be absolute destruction in a tight volley coming at you with no cover, if you're up close to an Arachnotron, he actually isn't all that terrible, because his pain chance is decent with most weapons you have.
Vanilla Doom's handling of hitboxes make him, fatso and big spider kind of really hard to do melee though, so you have that going for them.

>>4975592
She will chance the hair style to go with what she wears

>>4975590
>>4975602
this is so shameless, please never stop

>>4975590
>>4975602
Im fine with that, Im holding up on playing it until the next update comes over
I didnt dig it too much last time I tried it, maybe it was the mapset, Compendium is a bit of a mixed bag

Just finished the Silo mission in Goldeneye on 00 agent. Man what a load of bullshit. Those scientist who keep get in the way and the crap load of enemies.

What's up with this difficulty spike?

>>4975647
you ain't seen nothing yet if you think that's hard, wow.

>>4975647
Are you playing with auto-aim on or off?

>>4973250
>play Ultimate Doom
>secrets are obscure as fuck
What did Carmack memed by this?

>>4975651
The enemies just don't stop shooting,even when I take cover,the scientist the drop the keycards and items in the most random moments.
I didn't nearly have the same amount of trouble with the next mission.

>>4975659
No they aren't, and neither Carmack made levels for the game.

>>4975658
Without it.

>>4975663
>you have to go through a lit area that somehow connects with a wall that opens 1 room away
>you have to use action to a wall
>action won't work to this wall, you have to shoot it with a weapon
>not obscure

>>4975667
That's the good way to play IMO, the auto-aim is really like a crutch feature to let young kids play the game, you're much faster without it.

>>4975669
What level?

>>4975660
If someone as retarded as Vinny from Vinesauce can beat the game on 00 agent I'm sure you can too.

>>4975696
Well,I've finished the level again,this time It felt much easier. I've changed some video settings,I think those slowed the game.

Where do the novels fall into the Doom Extended Lore Universe now?

I have Doom Guy.
I have Doom Slayer.
HUUH
Doom Gayer!

>>4975590
>>4975602
do you have pasties and a nun outfit in this mod?

>>4975734
Pasties are Sewie's default underwear.

>>4975732

>>4974754
Doom 7 and its an arm chainsaw with a chain bayonet on one arm, an automatic ssg, three shoulder mounted cannons, a bfg sticking out of his crotch and boots that shoot every time you step

It's been a while since I've played a good HL1 mod

>>4975748
I never played a hl1 mod, aside cs

>>4975739
nice
a heart shaped option would be easy to do, even if its not a full fledged armor

I was saying that Perdition's Gate was on a slow boil, but I'm not so sure I stand by that, maybe it doesn't really hit a boiling point at all.
It teases some more with those interesting space hell textures it showed off in the early middle of the game, but I've yet to see a whole lot more of that, beyond a little bit of detail.

>>4975746
nice
cal-arts is not the worst thing now

>>4975732
Wrong game, but whatever.

>>4975757
For challenge, it doesn't really try very hard here either. The last dozen maps have been very short, small maps, with really low monster counts, pic related had *20* monsters, the most dangerous being a mancubus shoved behind some fat bars, meaning he gets fuckall for opportunity to hit you.
The level earlier had some minor arena, which concludes with a battle with a cyberdemon and arch-vile at once, which, what little fucking challenge could have been, is immediately deflated by the fact that you automatically pick up an invulnerability sphere.

I intend to see this through to the end, but I guess what I'm saying is that when it actually started picking up at the midpoint, it then dropped it again.

>>4975748
does it work with brutal half-life?

>>4975759
I still think it's worse.

>>4975770
it's

>>4975759
>>4975770
>>4975778
reminder that /col/ tards are their own misfortune.

>>4975768
Come ON! Not even 30 monsters and you hit me with this Q*Bert shit?

>>4975778

>>4975807
The following level actually tries a bit harder, but it's still really small and fast.

>>4973671
what gameplay wads are you playing anon?

>>4975815
Hey, the next level actually managed to kill me, and it puts up at least a decent number of good monsters.
Shame it's Map 28 already, and there's not much left.

I want to design a Doom-themed 'tower' defense type game. Where you build defenses and hire space marines to guard a gate to hell/ occupy hell and guard the gate to earth. I haven't decided yet. The player takes control of a single space marine to fight the hoardes but must balance his time with managing the rest of the NPC defenses.

Any ideas? I mean it to be fairly nerdy and in-depth with convoluted economic models. Like you're a mercenary contractor and have to balance a budget and can buy and sell stocks on a galactic stock exchange for extra cash, sell bits sell demon dicks to the Chinese on the black market, ect.

https://youtu.be/IbMxibUvVco

>>4975882
Why those cancerous memes are ruining even Doom tho

>>4974025
Who drew this? It's fucking good.

>>4975897
Found an even better one.

>>4973449
and in a less fucky way in the Eternity Engine.

>>4975881
Sounds like Stronghold: On the Edge of Chaos

>>4975815
What's this mod?

>>4975965
You'll see tomorrow.

>>4973250
>Doom is going to be 25 this year
id better make something special

>>4975897
Cruelpastry on Tumblr. Be careful it's extremely nsfw and full of furries.

>>4975958
Yes, exactly, that is my main inspiration and one of my favorite mods. It love how it works, thematically. My concept is more strategy, placing troops and ambushes, resource management, rather than mostly just running backwards with your finger pinned to the fire button on the mouse. It'll have that, too, which I think adds depth.

Not so much like an RTS that you need to 100% micromanage everything, like StarCraft, or really 100% put your time into surviving like most FPS. My idea is that it's planning/ management during intermissions, than it's seeing if your plan worked, with 50/50 RTS/FPS.

Also thinking of Urban Combat and War, Inc.

>>4976019
Wait, it's Urban Assault, by Microsoft. It was a RTS/ FPS.

I heard CH has a black spider mastermind
what does it look like?

>>4975897
>>4976006
Im not a fan of the rest of his output honestly, it seems like he is capable of drawing aesthetically pleasing stuff but also has a bend for fetishy shit, he drew a lewd of an archie girl with a baroness and the archie is far too accurate

speaking of fanart, does anyone have the pics with anime doom slayer girl? you know the ones Im talking about

>>4975987
just pester them at twitter or Quake discord

they know already, hence why we got Eternal's footage being so fucking good

>>4976028

>>4976028
nother one

>>4976028
and another

>>4976028
last one as far as I'm aware

>>4976030
>>4976032
>>4976038
>>4976039

thanks anon, these are exactly was I was looking for
weird, I just checked the twitter handle and there seems to be no account associated with this artist, maybe he got nuked for lewds?

>>4976027
Kinda like the yellow aracnotrons, in which it's a floating mastermind without a weapons platform.

>>4976041
DBT and term speaks with her, also she was involved with D4T

>>4976046
Is it the same artist that did Demonsteele and GMOTA art?
I fucking love her

>>4976047
its HIM

and he deactivated his twitter ACC
>https://www.deviantart.com/francotieppo/journal/

>>4976048
thanks for LETTING me KNOW

>>4976048
found the dumblr, its still up thankfully, its hephesus dot tumblr dot com
why did he nuke everything I dunno

>>4974175
>when you start doom eternal up on the switch

>>4976045
Isn't that the yellow one?

>>4975880
So the level after is some sort of command center. Opposition here is mild. Really not a lot to say about it.

>>4976063
The following level really isn't that amazing either. It's extremely short, like most levels in the last part of the game.

>>4976065
At least it has some stuff to look at.

>>4976068

>>4976069
KAPOW!

The only thing I think ruins the NuDoom games is the glory kills and pinata demons. If only they gave the option to completely shut that thing off and actually spread ammo and health pick ups through the levels. Of course there is other

>>4976053

That's not him.

>>4976047

Nope, not the same artist.

>>4976041
>>4976046
>>4976048

Yeah, the dude deleted his Twitter account because personal reasons.
It's a shame, I've been encouraging him to start up another because his work is fantastic and he deserves to have his work spread around and recognized. And, well, his stuff is absolutely amazing.
He's still got a lewd private Twitter account, but that's not the same, obviously.

>>4976071
And then you have the last level, which I didn't really get the time to take pics of, because it's actually fast and frantic.

The premise is that you've set a nuclear bomb to go off, and you have to run for it as the Icon Of Sin there starts to spit out demons.
This is one of the few times that Perdition's Gate gets really challenging, and yet again it's such a quick event.

You burst up some stairs and through some hallways, the exit is guarded by two cyberdemons (who are just cunts, as I've admittedly made them), and one arch-vile, preventing you from outright sprinting forward (in theory).
Trying to retain room to try to take out the vile, while the monsters keep spawning in, and making sure you don't eat rockets, is actually pretty tricky. I basically just sprinted for it and hoped I would just teleport away to the next part, but gullible me should have realized that Perdition's Gate is a premature ejaculator, and here the level, and the game, ends.

>>4973816
>not liking Heretic