/vr/ - Retro Games

The usual answer would be DKC2, but personally I prefer the first DKC game.

Donkey Kong Jr.

Arcade: Jr > DK > DK III
SNES: 2 > 1 > 3

>>4965829
yeah this

Donkey Kong 64 if you are a patrician like me.

>>4965829
>>4965842

These niggers know what time it is.

>>4965858
>DK64
>Patrician taste

>>4965829
>>4965842
Based.

>>4965842
Jr really is a great game. What happened with 3 though, it was such a let down

>>4965858
Get back to work, Rob.

pleb: dkc2
contrarian: dkc3
normalfag: dkc1
lolwut: dk64
patrician: dk'94

>>4965757

>>4965829
>not Donkey Kong Jr. Math

>>4965887
3 is unironically the best of the series

>>4965983
>>4965989
is this real

This one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBgaxnsx_W0

>>4965829
Came in to say this

Donkey Kong '94

Diddy Kong Racing

Returns

>>4965757
Pic related is best. Rare can eat a dick.

>>4965829
Was this the first time those kind of tree-like platforms appeared? They look like the ones on 1-3 from SMB.

The rom Billy Mitchell used to break the record.

dk94

>>4966490
>tfw played the shit out of returns 3d
The new levels they made for it are all pretty good.

>>4966548
Butthurt anti-Anglo subhuman detected.

>>4965757
Donkey Kong Country is the best, because it inspired Shigeru Miyamoto to make Yoshi's Island

>>4966548

>>4966687

But Yoshi's Island is probably the most overrated platformer ever.

>>4966687
>believing Steven L. Kent's fanfiction
>>4966826
>shitposting

>>4965829
Absolutely. I love the NES version :)

>>4965757
that one with mario

>>4966898
donkey kong country 2?

Why is DK64's music so bland? The only good one is the creepy castle.

>>4966943
Because Grant Kirkhope (the most overrated of Rare's music guys) did it and not David Wise. SO it wounds like a Banjo Kazooie soundtrack.

>>4965829

>>4966949
David Wise is a plagiarist hack.

>>4965829
Either Jr or 3. 3 is so damn good though its hard to say

>>4966087
Yes. It's noteworthy for being one of the rare "educational" Nintendo titles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WxgOI_1SdQ

>>4965757
Easy as fuck.
Donkey Kong '94

>>4966961
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

Tropical Freeze, but that's not retro.

Out of the SNES titles, while 2 has a lot going for it, at the end of the day, I enjoyed 3 all so sligthly more.

>>4965829

let me rant a bit here about DK1

>hammer is a fucking bomb: yah it lets you destroy barrels ducks, but half the time it doesnt actually smash the barrels if theyre coming down a ladder or if theyre in front of you because it happens to be above your head, and on top of following barrels inf ront of you coming down, you also have to be silently counting how long youve had it so it doesnt end on you right in front of an oncoming barrel
>SO MUCH FUCKING LANDING LAG
>for a game based around getting a high score, HALF THE TIME JUMPING OVER A BARREL GIVES YOU NO POINTS
>ridiculously easy to get stuck on a ladder, meaning you're gonna get crushed
>have to kick off a wall to get a hammer on the rivets stages
>despite being a benefit, you can jump on DK's foot for easy points for some reason

>>4970013
>>despite being a benefit, you can jump on DK's foot for easy points for some reason
Not in the port from DK64.

>>4965769
My nigga. The natural environments with just a hint of man-made materials like tires and barrels in the background are beautiful. The balance changed a little after that.
though.

Donkey Kong Country 2, I'll be that guy. Not because it's the usual answer but because it's the truth. The soundtrack is still one of my favorites to this very day and I never get tired of playing it year after year. Truly an enjoyable experience and a masterpiece of platforming on the SNES. Now I'm nowhere saying that DKC or even DKC3 are bad but this trilogy is engraved into my soul as the platforming heart of the SNES alongside SMW and Yoshi's Island.

>>4965858
DK64 was one of the few games I was actually disappointed by as a kid. Multiplayer was fun though.

>>4965757

dkc2>dkc3>dkc1>dk64>dk jr>dk arcade

>>4965757

how did dk64 drop the ball so hard?

its like a completely different team from the DKC guys did it

I loved DK1 but didn't like DK2. Did they ditch that whole "saving/moving to different overworlds/accessing certain levels costs coins" mechanic for the third one?

>>4971789
No, they expanded on it, and you can move freely in the overworld map between worlds. You need to spend coins to unlock the secret world levels like in DKC2. There's an adventure game element of collecting items for NPCs which is a bit of a drag. Not a bad game by any means but definitely not as good as DKC2 or as focused as DKC1.

>>4971764
I really dig the art for this. Was Katsuya Terada art?

>>4971774
Dk64 is good if you aren't a lil bitch

>>4965757
original donkey kong you plebs

>>4973298
But how could the original Donkey Kong be the best one if Donkey Kong 94 is literally better in every way? It even contains the entirety of the original Donkey Kong at the start, just with better play control.

>>4973319
less hard

>>4970989
Not to shit on your DKC love, but mines? temples? Most parts of worlds 5 and 6? I agree that the natural environments of DKC1 are the best though.

>>4973412
It's only less hard because the controls are better. The original Donkey Kong gets most of its difficulty from the stiff and unresponsive controls, which is bad.

>>4973417
Mario being able to do backflip jumps and spring jump shit has nothing to do with the controls. It's just straight up easier. DK94 is great but you can't compare the two games even if the first couple levels are based on the original.

what would the DK franchise be like today if Rare never got involved

>>4973058
No, looks like Benimaru Itoh.

>>4973559

It wouldn't be 1/10th as loved or iconic as it is now

>>4973559
Deader than F Zero
>Nintendo kept all RARE developed Donkey Kong characters and music to rehash in DK returns
Ninty are hacks

>>4965757
DK GB 94 and DKC2

>>4973559
A footnote in the pages of Nintendo history instead of the beloved series it is today.

>>4973742
Returns and Tropical Freeze are great though

>>4965757
Best is DKC2, closely followed by Jr.
Worst is 64, which is the first game to ever sincerely disappoint me to the point where I just gave it to someone for free

>>4967801
Tropical Freeze might be the single greatest 2D platformer of all time

>>4973823
DK64 has atmosphere something a plebian like you wouldn't understand

>>4973951
>DK64 has atmosphere
lolwut, the DKC games are far more atmospheric than 64

>>4973957
SO THEY'RE FINALLY HERE
PERFORMING FOR YOU
IF YOU KNOW THE WORDS YOU CAN JOIN IN TOO PUT YOUR HANDS TOGETHER IF YOU WANNA CLAP AS WE TAKE YOU THRU THIS MONKEY RAP
DK
DONKEY KONG
DK
DONKEY KONG IS HERE

>>4973823
The worst part about retro DK is how Cranky isn't an asshole anymore. I wonder if that was some kind of mandate from above like how Pokemon can only have friendly rivals now.

>>4973823
>You could also ask your friends, assuming of course you've got any

>>4973980
He's the leader of the bunch, you know him well

>>4974096
I can imagine so, it's important to remember that there are kids who are playing these games for the first time and they might be turned off by a NPC who shittalks you like cranky did in the snes games

Separating the apples from the oranges, as I prefer the Country games to DK64, but 64 still has some nice atmosphere, lots of really nice lighting effects and music that dynamically changes as you enter certain closed areas, or go outside, or underwater.

I can't play any of the rare games past DKC2 because I find the designs of the characters they added since then to be atrocious. They honestly ruin the experience for me.

>>4974172
pleb

>>4966548
this is the correct answer. rare is the most overrated developer of all time. DK94 is one of the best games on the GB, period. DKC is an underwhelming platformer that slid by on graphical achievements that in retrospect weren't all that impressive.

>>4974131
I became a shut-in for a few weeks as i became obsessed with getting 100% in this game

>>4965757
Either DK.Jr or DK '94 for retro. Mario vs. Donkey Kong for non-retro where you dont play DK. DKC 1 and DKL 1 for retro and DKC Tropical Freeze for non retro where you ACTUALLY play as DK.

>>4973424
>Mario being able to do backflip jumps and spring jump shit has nothing to do with the controls.
Even without the extra moves, controlling Mario is simply more responsive and consistent in DK94 than in DK. That's the real reason it's easier than the original DK, because you have better control over Mario.

>>4974119
>there are kids who are playing these games for the first time and they might be turned off by a NPC who shittalks you like cranky did in the snes games

Are kids really that pussified now? I thought Cranky was great as a kid, and I loved the rival in Gen 1 Pokemon. The shittalking is what spurred me on (on top of Cranky just generally being funny, but especially in the case of the Pokemon rival where I just wanted to beat him at every turn and give him what-for). Do modern kids really not have that kind of competitive drive to say, "Damn, that NPC is an asshole... fuck him, I'll show him!"

>>4974223
I dunno, I'm just speculating, I tend to find grumpy old characters like Cranky and Wess from Mother 3 highly amusing and relatable as well, my grandfather/mom's father would do nothing but bitch and moan about how shy and timid I was compared to my brother/spoiler]

>>4974096
i think part of it is weve lost all the british humor

>>4967801

tropical freeze is cool, but retro completely changed the gameplay compared to the rare games. I prefer the faster dkc gameplay to the momentum based dkc returns gameplay.