/vr/ - Retro Games

The Sega Genesis was a pretty weird add-on for their 32X console.

>>4961954
Unreleased, but obligatory.

>>4961954
Super Nintendo exercise bike and the Gameboy sewing machine are pretty weird. Also, pic related.

I mean... why? what?

>>4963138
>why
To clean the pins.

>>4961954
Does the Dexdrive count, or do you just want stuff that plugs directly onto the console itself?

>>4963219

and how the fuck you clean the pins with a cartridge? Jiggling it around?

>>4961964
Is it weird that I think this is kind of cool? It’s not the kind of thing I’d spend money/house space on, but I’d definitely try it.

>>4963305
the connector on the cleaning cart is abrasive and scrapes the console connection pins to be cleaner

>>4963371
But why did it need to be an entire cartridge? There are literally 1 up cards that are... cards. Why a cartridge?

>>4964006
Looks cool. Can keep it with the games and wont get lost easily as a result

>parents get me this piece of shit
>excited because I think all my troubles are solved
>fucker keeps falling out

>>4963269
Switch still can't back up saves.

Ever wanna bring your Gameboy on a fishing trip with your dad?

>>4961954
I saw the AVGN review a PERIPHERAL and you plugged in a GAME BOY cartridge but also a GAME BOY CARTRIDGE plugged into that GAME BOY PERIPHERAL fuck I'm still razzled, it was like watching stanley kubrick

>>4963269
I had one. That thing was amazing. I could download saves from the internet or back mine up.

>>4964020
NO AND I NEVER HEARD OF IT BEFORE LIKE A YEAR AGO BEFORE JAMES ROLFE REVIEWED IT AND I HAD TO GOOGLE IT TO SEE IT WAS DA REAL (THE REEL) THING
SEE? I'M FUNNY TOO I MAKE A PUN, TO PUN-ISH YOU
Fuck you. I hope you live in New Jersey.

>>4964064
Is there really a need to sperg out over a post that mentions something Rolfe has reviewed?

>>4964070
When they act like they had heard of it, would have posted it if they hadn't heard of it from somewhere else, but didn't quite pass it off as someone elses research but instead their own.
Dude have you heard of volcanoes? They're interesting, I read about them, but let me tell you about them and you should give me a (you) for educating you on an existing thing I googled.

>>4963269
That's awesome and not weird at all. N64 memory paks used battery-backed sram so this was the only way to retain your saves long term.

>>4963269
Not weird, pretty useful

>>4964135
N64 memory paks work to this day without modification so this is the only way we know you're a faggot.

>>4961954
How would the Nintendo home banking system work? Is it just an electronic balance book?

>>4964172
Oh no, it's retarded.

>>4964218
damn hey, you know sometimes when I respond online I forget myself a bit and I don't recognize that there literally retarded people out there that need every tiny little thing explained to them.

N64 controller paks do take a battery but the battery runs out super slowly over many years just like in battery-backed games, many of which continue to go fine, and many controller paks are working fine with no problem to this day - such as my one. This makes your statement false.

Also when I said "N64 memory paks work to this day without modification" I did not mean every single one out there does, what I meant is that many do, it is not uncommon for them to, it is a thing - just a little pre-emptive shielding from more retardation you might come up with trying to suggest there was something wrong with my post or right with yours.

>>4961954
Virtual cushion

It’s a butt cushion for the TurboGrafx that vibrates like a subwoofer

I actually used this in Basic Training back in '98. Later, I had friends whole served as Drill Sergeants there and I wish I would have asked if they had them laying around.Later, mid 2000s the Army used a version of Operation Flashpoint in leadership school

>>4964328
I'm sorry, not Operation flashpoint. It was Full Spectrum Warrior.

>>4964328
not console but Atari made a Bradley Fighting Vehicle trainer for the Army based of this arcade game.

>>4964015
>Not balancing a flashlight over your shoulder to game while in bed
Comfy times.

>>4961954
OP pic makes me wish that Nintendo took a gamble and struck a partnership wish either Arbitron or Comcast to bring Satelliview to North America.

>>4964542
someone will kickstart a satellaview-ish add-on inside the next five years, guaranteed
It'll click to the bottom of your SNES and connect to some private server via ethernet.

>>4964328
That thing is really cool. Its funny it used a lightgun made from parts of a .22 Caliber M16 clone.

>>4964020
they had one of these for the wonderswan too.

a lot of people in japan also used the wonderwitch (mail-order homebrew sdk for the wonderswan similar to the net yaroze) for gps logging purposes. there was a planned gps addon as well, for games like gps pacman, but that never came out.

>>4964598
>gps pacman
sounds pretty neat to be honest

>>4964605
there was also gps golf and a game about magical wars or something. the golf game generated maps from your surroundings and was going to have accelerometer features. would've been sweet.

>>4964612
on the topic of weird peripherals again, there was an actually released wonderswan peripheral called the mobilewondergate that let you connect to the internet on it. had a web browser and email and shit. certain games like wonder classic also had support for downloadable content and online tournament play. they had a gundam MMO in development for it but it was also cancelled when the thing didn't sell super well.

>>4964618
there's not a lot of english language info on the print booster/art booster for the pc-engine but they were a pair of peripherals that'd let you draw and print shit on the console.
http://www.pcengine.co.uk/HTML_Games/Artist_Tool.htm

>>4961964
Once in a while a useful exotic addon and of course it gets cancelled.

>>4964578
>someone will get a job and fund this
Just not you amirite

>>4964598
>wonderwitch

Man, I'd love to play Judgement Silversword and Cardinal Sins on original hardware

>>4964532
I had a spotlight on a shelf right over me. These bulbs lasted much longer before they were made instant-on which kills them.

>>4964006
All the other media formats had this pretty much. VHS had VHS cleaning tapes, CD Players had CD's with little brushes on them, I think Cassette's had cleaning cassettes as well.

Consumers were used to this and was simple and easy to understand.

>>4961954
This helped me pass spanish in high school, back in 96

>>4965862
>I think Cassette's had cleaning cassettes as well.
They sure did. I think I still have one stored away with my old tape deck somewhere. It had a fabric tape in it you put a few drops of IPA on. It also demagnetized the tape heads with a spinning disc of samarium magnets in it.

>>4964006
Holy crap shut up dude.

>>4964020

>that GB fucked up design

why?

>>4965937
It's supposed to look like it's submerged under water or something, I don't know, I'm not fucking Yokoi.

NES piano anyone?

>>4963269
On that note, why the hell did certain N64 games require a memory card? I could understand for Mario Artist or some game where you could make custom tracks or something, but Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon? Was it just that those developers sucked at storing their save data in a reasonable way?

>>4965982
The Neo-Geo also had memory cards.

>>4965982
It lets them make the cart cheaper.
Why spend an additional 50¢ per cart when you can just pass the cost to the consumer?

Some games used it as a way for you to take your data to a friends console though, like sharing your Mario Kart ghosts, or using your Perfect Dark character profile on another friend's N64 in multiplayer.

Game Boy printer was pretty weird.
also the GBA E-Reader

>>4966084
The Pokemon cards with E-reader strips on them were pretty kick ass!

>>4965982
Yup. Those developers sucked at storing their save data in some magical way that didn't involve something the console couldn't do alone.

>>4966018
>The Neo-Geo
>the
lel. Where exactly do I insert that on "the" NGCD? Your ass?

>>4961964
Love how nintendo just totally buries video games here as 'toys your kids will outgrow'

if they only knew what would actually happen

>>4966258
How could they possibly know there would be an entire generation that that never grew up?

>>4965982

It would have actually been better if all carts saved to a common, secondary cart. Even if these were battery-backed, at least you'd only have to repair one cart / buy some modern equivalent with an SD slot, instead of taking apart numerous actual game carts to replace batteries.

>>4964891
i play judgement silversword on my flashmasta a lot. it's great.

>>4966084
>also the GBA E-Reader
there's a little-known mario party board game for that.

>>4966903
In hindsight, I agree. Especially since the N64 Memory Pak is dead simple, so it's really easy to replace the original with something better like FRAM or an SD card.

Back in the day though, it would have sucked.
Games like Shadowman or Mario Kart 64 could eat up almost an entire Pak.
Even with memory banking that would still be a pain.

>>4966920
>there's a little-known mario party board game for that.
Oh wow. I'd seen the card packs, but I didn't realize it was an entire board game.
I thought they were just expansions for the Mario Party Advance game.

This thing is so obscure for me.

>>4964268
even the best batteries are eventually going flat after 20+ years.

>>4961954
>>4967039
>This thing is so obscure for me.

Would love to see how it did work or even better use it myself for a weekend

>>4967894
The first memory pak would have given up long after the dex drive stopped being in production and Nintendo didn't use that as a use of the dex drive or ever refer to the controller pak's limited battery life. Hence it's an UNLIKELY reason for buying or having a dex drive and not a common one as he stated.

20 years isn't up yet and they still work for many controller paks. He was stating it was a fairly common use for dex drives when only a tiny percentage of people ever even knew about the limited lifespan much less cared about ten years into the future at that time when better solutions could come along. In fact for the past few years you can backup your controller pak files onto a SD card using a Everdrive 64 (or the ED64 knockoff clone) making a dex drive practically pointless and the first version was 2011.

>>4966920
I actually played that card game with some kid in Highschool

>>4967039
>>4967920
It's emulated pretty well these days. Hell, if you have an SD2SNES and load up a Satellaview game, you go through the whole town-based front end and everything. And you can use the MSU-1 to overlay the live-broadcast audio too, it's really cool

>>4961954
I firmly believe that this thing doesn’t exist. I mean, have you ever seen one irl, or on eBay, or literally anywhere else?

>>4966920
Neat, I also didn't know you could use the E-reader on an SP, I only had one for like a summer and just played the NES releases on it.

>>4968660
Damn, they should have released the keyboard peripheral at least a couple of years after the MD launched. It would have been great to see some games for both the standalone Genesis/MD, Sega CD, and maybe also a couple as a Mega CD 32X combo title use the keyboard and mouse. Stuff like certain graphic adventures and System shock 1 would have been possible to have on the 32X or Mega CD 32X had it been released.

>>4967920
they recreated and translated the menu and stuff now, it's kind of earthboundy.

>>4968213
i think it was actually unreleased

>>4966930
yup, it's really hard to come by. about $100 sealed.

pre-analog stick racers supported this thing on the ps1 a lot. it works by twisting it around the middle axis. lot of people swear by it

>>4969023
it was a slightly more appealing version of the jogcon imo

this one isn't as weird as it is cool. sega saturn fightstick for 2 players, it's basically just the control panel off of an astro city cab. things are crazy expensive. i want one.

>>4969039
I have a similar one for the Playstation. It's significantly less cool-looking, but great fun to use.

>>4969039
>crazy expensive
Yup. I paid ¥1,200 for mine. You'll pay 10x that just for shipping. Plus $500 for the controller. Prices have really got insane the last few years.

>>4969078
>Prices have really got insane the last few years.
You mean prices for old controllers in general? Because I've noticed this too, at least on Ebay. I had recently toyed with the idea of getting back into collecting (controllers specifically), but the prices have increased dramatically and the selection has become a bit of a boring wasteland.

>>4965862
>CD Players had CD's with little brushes on them
I was SO afraid the brush would fall of at light speed and end up who knows where.

>>4965982
passing the buck
instead of including save RAM on the cartridge (making the game more expensive), the player had to buy memory themselves

always did bother me back at the time that Fighters Destiny had on-cart save... but still wanted a memory card for some things

>>4966234
kuso post

>>4969039

They have a coolness factor. I have a real astro city candy cab. They are cool, but honestly you could make something or customize two fight sticks and get the same or better results. They are basically for "muh aesthetic".

>>4969078
really, i bought mine last year for 350 usd + 100 usd shipping

>>4969106
Prices for all old vidya stuff but stuff that was previously lesser known has been particularly bad. And controllers, in particular low quality sticks, have been some of the worst of that lot. I picked up a lot of controllers back when they were going for a buck or two in flea markets. I wouldn't even waste my time asking the price today.

>>4969750
You could probably get a limited edition champagne color one with no box or inserts for that price today.

>>4963319
Not necessarily, I mean I don't know how hard working one of these would be, but I think the ability to just go to a craft store, pick out some yarn and have my NES knit me a fucking sweater would be undeniably cool.

>>4969563
My brother used acetone with one to clean more better. It didn't just come off, each little fiber flew off. Drive was totally covered.

Even the mousepad is pretty cool.

>>4966765
>>4966258
Based

>>4969039
Its sadly not. It just looks that way. The buttons are on a PCB and the stick is some sort of generic stick.

>>4969039
At EVO 2012 I saw some guy selling this in box and in great condition for $200. I would have bought it but I had no room for it. Still regret it. I saw it on the last day too. Guy was probably desperate to sell it.

>>4961954
a couple of japanese super famicom games came with full voice acting through an attachment called voicer-kun. it worked by controlling a cd player and skipping around on tracks from included cds. very odd. only worked for a handful of games, a series of english learning VNs and an Angelique game.

>>4970048
why would a ps1 need a mouse

>>4970328
I assume there were many uses for it, though personally I've only ever witnessed it being used for the Discworld games, which were point&click adventures.

>>4970093
Yup. It's some sort of generic seimitsu stick. kek

>>4961954
>use game genie
>become rich

>>4970328
Die hard trilogy supported the mouse for the die hard 2 portion of the game iirc.

>>4965958
This also had SNES and Genesis versions too.

>>4970328
Command & Conquer.

>>4970389
>game genie corrupts your account data
>go broke

>>4970107
The Atari 2600 has one of those too, though it uses cassettes. Only worked with two kindergartener edutainment games, ones with the Smurfs and one with the Brerenstain Bears.

>>4966928
Then surely that's a problem of the size of the saves and not the fact that they're using a memory card?

MK64 was different to using the whole memory card for saves. The ghosts were just an extra. They needed such large memory is because it had to remember your location, the exact direction of your kart and other statuses at least 15 times a second, that's the only way it could provide a smooth ghost, and Rainbow Road were like 20 minutes long. They also clearly compressed it as you can see from the fact that it wouldn't save if something random happened like you got hit badly or Lakitu had to bring you back.

You don't have to use it, it's just a nice addition for time trial. Ghosts are invaluable to help people see where they're lacking and make up speed, without them you're running blind. If you like you can upload the ghosts you want to keep to computer through the dex drive, or these days your Everdrive 64, so you don't have to have a memory pak for every ghost.

>>4970796
I forgot to add that most games only needed a few memory card pages (whatever they were called), 2-4 pages. Maybe some developers figured people would buy their game, beat it in a week or so and move onto the next one and delete it. I hate deleting save files from a lot of gaming I did though.

>>4969017
How would it work though? Ethernet?

>>4970725
Didn’t some guy get like 4 trillions because PayPal got corrupted?

>>4968761
I think there was some kind of keyboard for it in Brazil.

>>4968660
>AV Intelligent Terminal High Grade Multipurpose Use'

>>4965937
Because it looks all jagged.

>getting to talk to pikachu about PS1

>>4970107
That feels like something from a dimension where the Nintendo Playstation actually came out.

>>4970328
Clock Tower

>>4970328
Simcity

>>4964054
SHILL!

>>4970328
why did the snes need a mouse

>>4970328
PS1 had 8 rts games, 5 Sim games and about 12 point and click adventure games adventure

>>4962354
I WANT TO BE SEDADED WITH A GAMEBOY

>>4964335
>>4964328
The OFP version used by the military is called VBS and it's basically bohemia's arma but WAY WAY more complete and professional

>>4964218
No choice back then. Flash memory was expensive as FUCK. Sandisk introduced Compact Flash in 1994 and it blew minds. A whopping 64MB!

>>4961954
Nintendo Workboy. It never came out, but I remember wanting one so bad. It basically turned your GB into a PDA.

>>4976707
I've thought about trying to recreate that.
I've had a few ideas to improve on the concept as well.
I'm thinking keyboard, GB Printer, and external storage support to start with, but other things could be added as well.

>>4970107
neat, i never knew about this one

>>4963138
even the official one came with a wand for cleaning carts and a cart (with a little cloth thing inside you could change) for cleaning the deck's slot

>>4970796
Couldn't it use dead reckoning and only record input times?

>>4961964
>mentioning this as a machine for young girls is now considered politically incorrect

>>4976707
Curious how the phone worked. What's it mean by auto dial? Like it could connect to your landline?

>>4978045
I guess if you put to the Gameboy speaker to phone mic, it could play tones of number.

>>4966062
>Why spend an additional 50¢ per cart when you can just pass the cost to the consumer?
We're still seeing this today with some third party games on the Switch.

>>4962354
Omg I saw this cringey DID-U-NO?! Tier image on Facebook a while ago with a picture of the pedisedate being like "in Le 90s in Japan Nintendo released this peripheral which gives you nitrous and PULLS YOU MORE INTO THE GAME!?" It had like 500k likes and 200k shares, fucking normies reeeee-search more

>>4965982
GOAT N64 memory card has normal phillips head screws and it's battery was in an easily replaceable holder no soldering.
>>4964218
unlike this cucked soldered, safety screw, big soi boi.

>>4976707
>What are you doing Friday the 13th, January 1995?
Being born

>>4970328
Quake II

bump

>>4964532
sounds like a great way to get neck pain

Nowadays I use a cheap LED lamp I bought off meh for about 7 bucks one time. It's a flexible head with plenty of movement, and the light is produces is perfect for any non-backlit screen in my experience (based on having played with every GB, WS, and also NGPC).

The sun is also a good option, but you know, being out in the sun isn't a /vr/ favorite.

>>4964020
I want this and the wonderswan one too.

>>4964598
also fascinated by this, have no idea how you'd hook up GPS to it and I'd love to see it in action.

>>4964612
That sounds cool, Wonder Classic is actually something I wanted to get in on.

I assume it's not possible to use anywhere but Japan and possibly doesn't work anymore?

>>4969017
I have the mario party card game, but it's beat to hell. Wasn't really very good as a game, I have to admit.

>>4965937
It looks to me like an issue with the scanner that captured the image, not the magazine printing.

>>4969028
neGcon came before it actually

the jogcon just sucks

>>4970048
I had one of those, but the Mousepad was blue and said "hypermouse" or something similar.

>>4975272
>why did the snes need a mouse
?
Mario Paint
although I don't know of another one that uses it tee bee aytch

>>4963269
>Websides
My sides

>>4961964
Funny thing is, the Game Boy Color actually did get a knitting addon of sorts, or at least there were sewing machines compatible with it.

>>4983367
i think Fun N Games supported it optionally

>>4964048
Ahaha

>>4983367
Sim Ant

>>4983747
That was a neat way to make a violent RTS """educational""" so parents would buy it.

bump

>>4976707
>You will never get to phreak using a Game Boy

What a lost opportunity.

>>4970328

>>4986380
The phone company had switched to ss7 by the time the game boy was out and you couldnt do anything but autodial

>>4964268
>>4968083
Holy shit this autism. Over a fucking battery.

>>4971202
>Nintendo Playstation
What the fuck? I thought only one unit of this prototype existed.

>>4963138
lmao

>>4982825
they made custom cables for it, there's lots of documentation online. i think they ended up doing it over parallel or serial using the cable that came with the wonderwitch.