/vr/ - Retro Games

It's just how you feel.
I also grew up with NES and SNES, but I got a Genesis a few years ago and have been having an absolute blast playing the games you mentioned and more. If it's not for you then just move on.

>>4960421
I had one of Jenny's cysts as a kid and always thought Stupid NoFriendo games were better when I got a chance to play them. I got more enjoyment out of just Commander Keen 4-5 on our 386 than with Jenny's cyst.

Try Shadow Dancer, Rolling Thunder 2, Thunder Force III and IV, Rocket Knight Adventures and Shinobi III: Return of the Ninja Master.

Nah, you've probably grown into a jaded individual and are only giving NES/SNES a pass because of nostalgia. Either that or it's your younger console warrior self interjecting your mental constructs and corrupting them with unfiltered spite.

Your complaints aimed at top level stuff like Sonic and Vectorman don't really make sense to me unless you were thinking about these games for such a long time your already biased judgemental abilities created impossibly huge expectations which were obviously not met and now you blame the games for it. Basically you uncounsciously expected current gen games quality because "people just wouldn't shut up about them hidden gems" and were disappointed when the games turned out to be products of their time.
If you think I'm zoning out answer me this: why did you wait for so long before finally trying out Genesis games? Nobody was stopping you all these years, and real gaming enthusiasts would want to broaden their horizons.

>>4960421
This guy knows >>4960429

You were mostly playing what was popular then and not what still holds up now. Unsubscribe whatever Eceleb you got your best Genesis game list from. I would add Comix Zone, Ristar, Shining Force 1&2, Hardcorps, Beyond Oasis, and Bloodlines to that list

vectorman is such trash

Best version of Flashback and Jurassic Park never gets a mention but that is a damn good game.

>>4960458
Vectorman was never good.

>>4960458
>>4960464
I did like playing on the logo screen. That was pretty interesting and charming.
And then the actual game started...

Gain Ground
Outlander

>>4960421
If the games you're listing are what you consider 'top' and 'hidden gems' you've come nowhere near the actual best games for the system, aside from Sonic which you might just not be into at the moment.

In addition to what's been recommended so far in the thread,

Adventures of Batman and Robin
Alien Soldier
Devil Crash MD
Streets of Rage 2
Bare Knuckle 3
Golden Axe 3
Gunstar Heroes
Dynamite Headdy
Shadowrun
Crusader of Centy
Revenge of Shinobi
MUSHA

for starters.

>4960421
Vectorman and ToeJam & Earl were never good, but americans like to pretend they were for some reason, they're just both okay-ish games. Altered Beast was an interesting arcade game for the time because of the sprites and voices, but it wasn't all that great either.

Golden Axe is good, but it's an earlier beat'em up and less refined than later offerings like Streets of Rage 2, but give it another try (play with Gilius).

Check out:

>Streets of Rage 2
>Monster World IV
>Quackshot
>Shinobi III
>Phantasy Star IV
>Lunar II (CD)
>Shining Force II
>Beyond Oasis
>Crusader of Centy
>Contra: Hard Corps
>Gunstar Heroes
>Ristar
>Rocket Knight Adventures
>Ranger X
>Lords of Thunder (CD)
>Popful Mail (CD)
>MUSHA
>Thunder Force IV
>The Adventures of Batman & Robin
>Dynamite Headdy
>Devil Crash MD
>Gaiares
>Dune II
>Water Margin (taiwanese release)

>>4960463
>Jurassic Park
Unfinished mess, Rampage Edition is better, despite also having a mediocre level design. The Lost World is interesting.

>>4960421
Cool blog kid bro

>Is this just me growing up
Yes. Hopefully by the time you're 18 you'll have matured enough to like something a shouting spazz on youtube didn't tell you to like.

Genesis is fine, but most of it's games are far more arcade-y than SNES.

>>4960421
>I recently tried playing all the 'top' and 'hidden gems

But you only list like 5 games and most of them (toejam, vectorman, columns, altered beast) aren't even usually praised by Genesis fans and the other is fucking Sonic.

It's one thing to say you don't like Genesis games, but at least play some better ones.

>>4960938
I like altered beast tho

>>4960421
None of them were fun.

We’ve got an unbiased opinion right here!

>>4960996
Well someone somewhere was bound to.

>>4960938
vectorman is actually a pretty good game

>>4961063
Says you.
>>4960938
In any case, OP probably fell victim to a contrarian reviewer.

>>4960458
>>4960464
>>4960467

>there are people actually this bad at Vectorman

>>4960882
Not OP but I feel the same as him. I just feel like most major Genesis titles are lacking the depth offered in Nintendo's best 16-bit era games. The only Sega console I ever really loved was the Dreamcast.

>>4961196
I'm kinda the opposite, something about the Genesis just seemed to have more games I liked and my collection ended up being more than twice as big.

I didn't love the Snes or the games I liked on it any less though, the console war thing never made sense to me.

>>4960421
Genesis lacks Nintendo Magic™

I don’t know what that is but Genesis doesn’t have it so it sucks

Golden Axe is a good game. But you have to get over the fact that its from the 80s and is very primitive compared to later, better beat em ups from the 90s. That said, I like its elegant simplicity and strong atmosphere. Reminds me of the Conan movie.

Also, Golden Axe 2 is better. It doesn't look any better, it runs on the exact same engine, but its more fun.

>no mention of Desert Strike

Boi.

>>4960426
Please go back to /b/. Your memes are forced and pathetic. You should feel bad.

>>4961540

If you like the heliocopers give red zone a play, it's god tier, and quite techincally impressive too.

>>4961634
They get me (You)s :-)

>>4961540
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boi_(slang)

it could take a bit of time to find the depth in the games by playing more, i used to think nes was crap because of the ugly colour pallet but after a while i saw it as a unique art style

>>4960421
> plays a handful of games out of a massive library of software
> fails at them because: can't game
> somehow genesis becomes more inferior than the weak as piss SNES
this is pure retard logic in action. only nintenkucks make such retardation possible.

hows your snes going anyway? still can't line scroll? still using that slow and shitty WDC 68186?
*my fucking sides.. oh man*

>>4961670
whoops 65816... kek.

>>4960421
Genesis is a lot better if you have a friend playing with you. snes is better by yourself

Try Rystar, X-Men 2, Streets of Rage, and Aladdin.

>>4961670
>>4961670
I like the Genesis, but finding good games on the SNES is so much easier. Yoshi's Island, F-Zero, the Mario games, Earthbound, a metric buttfuck ton of fantastic JRPGs, Donkey Kong Country, Metroid, etc. Also that fuckin Genesis sound chip is just gross. And I may know jack shit about the power and engineering behind these systems, but comparing the most popular games from the two I find that the SNES has the most games with graphics that've aged really well, except for maybe Starfox or something.

>>4961758
>finding good games on the SNES is so much easier
You know that's only because Nintendo has maintained its IPs to this day right?

This is part of the reason we have creative stagnation in gaming. The dumb horde of gaming masses gravitate to known properties like Nintendo's usual cast of characters and punished Sega for actually being creative and refreshing their IPs pretty much every gaming generation.

>>4961762
>punished Sega for actually being creative and refreshing their IPs pretty much every gaming generation.

They certainly deserve credit for trying but a lot of their new IP attempts were misfires. Vectorman was pretty good but then there was crap like Comic Zone or X-Perts.

>>4960421
>SNES is much more superior.
If you like JRPGs, lower resolution graphics, and every game ever having massive slowdown then sure. Say what you want about the Genesis but its games at least performed the way they were meant to.

>>4961408
The best way I'm able to describe it is that most SNES classics feel timeless whereas a lot of the Genesis library feels very much like a product of the 90s with that edgy, XTREME vibe. It just makes them feel more dated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS-F0UFezFA

>>4961869
You shut your whore mouth about Comix Zone if you know what's good for you.
X-perts sucked major balls, though.

>>4961903
>games made in the 90s feel like they were made in the 90s
wow
See
>>4961762
for the reason you feel that way

>>4961905
Comix Zone's actual gameplay is only fun for about 10 minutes though.

>>4961903
I wasn't aware of that game. Just tryna finish what I've started but added to my list anyway. I bet it looks great with composite video or filters/shaders that simulate it :-)

>>4961908
Good news!

https://www.speedrun.com/Comix_Zone

>>4961906
No, that's not it. Nintendo's SNES era games just don't feel as dated. Sega was bigger on trying to jump on cultural trends so I think that's why their stuff feels more like a product of that specific time.

>>4961916

>>4961903
It looks so much better with composite video.

https://www.speedrun.com/Comix_Zone/run/y236d85m

>>4961951

>>4961951
>A message quoting itself
What the fuck is going on?

>>4961956
>What the fuck is going on?
Doesn't seem all that hard to do if you're on a slow board.

>>4961920
>Sega was bigger on trying to jump on cultural trends
You have literally no evidence for this except for Sega's marketing attempts to make Sonic look "cool".

Had Sega moved with the times they would have abandoned the arcade approach by the time of Dreamcast and made shitloads of cinematic JRPGs (they experimented with the cinematic style with pretty much one game - Shenmue). Instead Sega stuck to their arcade guns and made arcade style games from start to finish.

>>4961968
I don't know, man. All I'm saying is the Genesis library generally screams 90s to me but the SNES doesn't as much. Although even Nintendo couldn't resist jumping in on the Street Fighter/Mortal Kombat craze with Killer Instinct.

>>4961972
>the Genesis library generally screams 90s to me but the SNES doesn't as much
As I said, this is just bias. Many of the radikewl 90s third party games were on both SNES and Genesis (Mortal Kombat for instance). The only thing I can possibly think in favor of your argument is that EA made a lot of radikewl games and they supported the Genesis more strongly than they did the SNES (though they had a presence on both machines).

Sure you have Comix Zone, a first party game which is 90s as fuck, but that's counterbalanced by first party SNES games like (as you admitted) Killer Instinct. Even DKC is 90s as fuck with its focus on boom boxes and "jammin". Earthbound is also 90s as fuck, etc.

The only reason SNES may seem more "timeless", is as was already noted above in this thread. SNES IPs are still alive to this day while pretty much all the Genesis ones other than Sonic are dead and buried in the 90s.

SNES has like 5 good games, all of which are first party and very brown. Meanwhile, the Mega Drive has hundreds of good games, most of which are actually visually interesting and don't sound like MIDI files.

>>4961992
All of this is on an inferior console with less colors and less buttons mind you. And yet, the graphics and gameplay are superior to those of SNES games. The worst you'll get on a Mega Drive is a watered down arcade port, the worst you'll get on the SNES is the hundreds upon hundreds of shit shovelware titles.

>>4961989
>as fuck
Please stop.

>>4961992
>don't sound like MIDI files.
I love the FM Synth but prepare yourself for pleb fart noise posters

me when playing genesis

>>4962001
Why isn't THRILLHO a meme hear? Too old for /vr/oomers?

>>4961992
>don't sound like MIDI files

I was ready to keep your bait alone but not after seeing this. Sounding like "MIDI files" is not inherently a bad thing, mostly because MIDI files don't inherently sound like anything. You want to know a MIDI based driver though? GEMS.

>>4962005
My uncle had a grand piano that played midi files from 3.5" floppy disks. They're instructions that tell instruments what notes to play.

>>4962019
Exactly, and as such they don't have a defined "sound" to be compared to.

>>4962026
The MIDI players on most of our PCs in the 90s had specific voices SNES is being compared to? Wasn't its audio largely sample playback which is the antithesis of MIDI?

>>4960421
t. nintodler

>>4960421
SNES had some really special games like super metroid but other then some games most games are riddled by slowdown like final fight series which is unplayable. And dont get me started on shmups. I dont get how every nintoddler seems to have nothing against slowdown.

this nigga right. just look at raiden or thunder force

>>4962052
Beat-em-ups are for mouthbreathers.

>>4962071
What about shmups then?

>>4962067
>zelda, kong, chrono

>>4962067
I had one of Jenny's cysts as a kid and I agree. The games felt like https://www.reddit.com/r/crappyoffbrands/

Most didn't even have save capability and I wasn't interested in grinding the same part again every time for the hope of eventually finishing in one session.

My PC games were much more memorable.

>>4962080
>you can translate a single sprite instead of animating it

>>4962073
space shooters are most boring games, they are all the same

>>4962086
Sure is summer, welcome to /vr/ kiddo

>>4960421
sounds like you are really into jrpgs and Mario style platforms. That's all cool but that's difference in Sega

>this thread
Both had their strengths and weakness

I had a genesis as a kid with quite a few games. Even got the menacer. It wasn't all that entertaining to be honest. A friend had the SNES with DKC and All Stars + SMW and that shit made me want to ditch the genesis altogether. I ain't even got bad titles. I had Gunstar Heroes, Altered Beast, all Sonic games, fucking Ristar. Streets of Rage. I just liked the SNES more.

>>4962105
That's what people say these days, but is it really true?
What did Genesis really have as far as a strength?
A worse controller? Blood in MK1? An extra level in Earthworm Jim?
Twaaang twaaang twwwaaaaaaaang?

>>4962165
More powerful hardware despite being 2 years older is a bloody good start, m8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv-mfTsw_s4

>>4962165
Higher resolution for 99.9% of games
Less slowdown
It's just a better performing console for the most part and largely holds up better than the SNES did. Its library is a different story. I love the Genesis library and think that there's more consistent quality there, but the highs don't reach as high as some of the SNES greats. At least that's what everyone keeps telling me.

>>4962067

I grew up with SNES and never owned a Genesis as a kid, but nowadays I prefer the Genesis over it

>>4960421
It's your view. I have the same thing going on with the N64. I didn't own one as a teen so I have no feelings towards its importance. Most of the games recommend I find to be boring at best, aside from maybe 10 or so games. I'm sure if it's the console my mom bought for me as a kid I'd have a higher opinion of it, but it's not so I don't.

Shadow Dancer is fucking good

>>4962220
>I love the Genesis library and think that there's more consistent quality there, but the highs don't reach as high as some of the SNES greats.
This is how I feel. Tons of great games but nothing that reaches legendary status like Super Metroid or ALttP.

>>4962071

t. weeb rpg lover

Both have great games but SNES excels on RPGs and the like, while Genesis is more after the arcade shit and platformers. For instance, Genesis doesn't really have that many action RPGs available. Landstalker has terrible controls. Crusader of Centy genuinely feels at times like a cheap Zelda clone. There's nothing like Terranigma for instance. Let alone turn based RPGs, the Phantasy Star series can't really rival both Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest.

However you got stuff like the Wonder Boy series, Puggsy, Ristar. Gunstar Heroes. There's some stuff in there.

>>4960458

Vectorman is fucking awesome. The double jump is so satisfying in that game

>>4962105
We had a very good sega thread happening. Nintodlers got jealous so they fucked it up because they have no games to talk about, Super Metroid is pretentious as fuck

>>4962273

rpgs are fucking boring

>>4962245
N64 hasn't aged well. It's not fun to play with blurry/jagged low poly models with low rez textures. It's like the Atari 2600 of 3D

>>4962286
You are fucking boring

>>4962165
>What did Genesis really have as far as a strength? A worse controller?
Hmmmm.....

>go to buddy's house
>can't wait to play street fighter 2
>Here's your controller bro
>hands me pic related
>intotrash.jpeg

>>4962259
>but nothing that reaches legendary status like Super Metroid or ALttP.

They're made that way so you'll buy a super nes on basis of those games alone, this is not a positive thing for video games or offered so many arcade game developers a chance to succeed with their home ports. Do you really think they had a positive influence on video games?

>>4961903
snes classics feel like they were targeted at young children because they were and the slowdown in games is atrocious.

>>4962292
Original NES looked less like a kids toy than any aesthetic that followed

Yoshis Island is like any other sega game but it's so much looooonger lol wow let's fetch those red fucking coins too you like fun don't you? Collect all of those stupid fucking coins and get your dollars worth

>>4962273
>arcade shit

Uh, you mean like video games?

>>4962292
That looks like a dildo!

>>4962289
This. N64 unironically aged worse than any 3D console. PS1 is grainy and textures freak the fuck out constantly but at least it's not a blurry Mr Magoo simulator.

>>4962290

not as boring as weeb rpgs

>>4962321
He's an RPG fan, what were you expecting?

>>4962116
I started with Genesis and then got a SNES and loved both but I always had more Genesis games and overall liked them more.

I never got the whole console war though, especially these days it just makes no sense.

>>4962358
>I never got the whole console war though, especially these days it just makes no sense.
I'll let you in on a little secret.... we know both are great but it's fun to relive our playground days of flinging shit at each other about who had the better console/games but in all seriousness fuck nintoddlers ;^)

>>4962345
>muh blurry meme

>>4960421

I too prefer SNES.

That being said, Streets of Rage 2. One of the best beat-em ups ever. Easilly my favorite.

>>4962373
See that's the thing, even when I was younger it made no sense to me. I've never seen a system devoid of any good games, there have been some like the N64 I never got because there weren't enough. But it never made me hate the system or want to rag on it's games. Tetrisphere is still awesome...

>>4962393
Meme or not it's true, you fucking retard.

Nobody said that you had to like the Genesis, just expect a hoard of shitposters to autistically screech at you.

>>4962273
Beyond Oasis is just as good as LTTP. Shining in the Darkness is unmatched by any dungeon crawler on the SNES, and Shining Forcr is unmatched by any SRPG. Phantasy Star may not be as good as FF or DQ, but it's sure better than Breath of Fire and Lufia. I'm a huge RPG fan and the Genesis is an excellent console. Hell, even Gauntlet IV has an excellent RPG mode and a great soundtrack!

>>4962537
Not him, and I'm one of the biggest Beyond and Legend of Oasis fans on this board, but they're quite different from LttP. I wouldn't fault someone for preferring one over the other.

>>4962584
I wouldn't say it's better or worse. Controls wise I still like Zeldas over many "zelda clones" or whatever they call them these days but I don't think I'd be able to live without games like Alundra or Terranigma (which get put on that list often).

>>4961762
Reusing IPs isn't necessary a bad thing. Nintendo has definately done that a few times but take 3D Mario games for example, none of them are really the same except for direct sequels. And even then if they reuse IPs the games are still fun like the Kirby games. IPs like Assassin's Creed and CoD are examples of lazy rehashing though.

>>4961762
Also no, I don't think it's because those IPs are still relevant, I honestly think the SNES has more worthwhile games than the Genesis. Even then a lot of the best games on the SNES haven't been in any new games besides Smash for a while (F-Zero, Earthbound, and Star Fox may have had Zero but we don't talk about that one)

Really I think Sega is lazy from not using their IPs enough. Besides Sonic, Football Manager and Bayonetta, there's not much else. Where's Ristar, Nights, Burning Rangers, Phantasy Star, Alex Kidd, Rhythm Theif, Altered Beast, Virtua Fighter, Shinobi, Space Channel 5 and Crazy Taxi?

>>4962760
I just think they're very different games when you get down to it.

>>4960421
You're just a shitty and ignorant fanboy. Nothing new. No one cares what you think or how you feel about anything. Just being honest.

>>4960421

The best game on the Sega was Herzogswei, play with a friend.

https://youtu.be/mAR-8JTdcVw

>>4963321
The point about brand recognizability still stands though.

>>4964992
>pennyarcade
Wow it's almost like everyone who shares this perspective is an idiot.

>>4963321
>Mario and Kirby are great because they're reused!
>But Assassin's Creed and CoD aren't because they're reused!
Nintendo fanboys.

>>4965068
They are. That's why it's a joke.

>>4960421
>But seriously SNES is much more superior.

Like shit it is. Back then during the nineties i loved my super famicom and my snes'es. How could you not, there always was a large number of fresh games coming out each month. Not owning a snes was seriously missing out.

These days i am totally weirded out and disgusted at the systems lower than standard resolution. The blurred pixel filtering. The annoying chorus/reverb and the slightly off pitch music. The fucking slug of a cpu that makes arcade style games completely un-enjoyable.

But whats the most annoying is the vast amount of brainless nintendards, foaming at the mouth, because they cannot wait to tell you how glorious their fucking super nintendo is.

YOU ARE EMPTY SHELLS WITH COPIED PERSONALITIES :(

Anyone have experience with Genesis cartridge battery life? I just got Shining Force 2 and I'm deciding whether to swap the battery.

>buying into brainlet-tier three decades old “console war” consumer marketing
>not being equally passionate about Nintendo and Sega

>>4962067
nintenkiddies are the embodiment of 22-year-old boomers

>>4960458
Vetorman was fun enough, just the gimmicky boss fights were retarded.

>>4968132
This is such pseudo profundity, though. It's perfectly reasonable for someone to just prefer one over the other, be it in terms of games or presentation. If you're a JRPG fan, for example, you're more than justified to favor the SNES library over the Genesis.

>>4968189
Perference sure, but trying to say one is great and the other sucks has never made sense to me. If you enjoy games on one of the systems, I find it inconceivable that there wouldn't also be some games on the other system that would also appeal. The Genesis probably has more games overall that I like, but it doesn't make me dislike the snes or it's games I do love at all.

It's why people like OP seem so surreal.

>>4968227
I actually agree with everything you just said. My response was pretty much just an objection to your "equally passionate" comment. I can see why someone with very specific genre preferences would end up feeling much more passionate about one than the other.

>>4961641
Fun fact: OST is by Jesper Kyd

>>4968132
I never bought into it, even when I was a kid.
I pity those who didn't own both during their childhoods.

>>4968261

I didn't get to own both consoles until n64/ps1

>>4961540

jungle and urban strike are better

>>4962254

I wish it was a bit longer

>>4968261
I actually never owned a Sega console but they ruled the arcades when I was a kid. I still remember the first time I saw the sit down Space Harrier cab, it looked like the future. And I don’t ever remember a single peer ever expressing partisanship over the two companies, beyond the marketing hype such rivalries always felt like more of a micro computer thing (c64 vs apple ii; amiga vs atari st; mac vs ibm pc compatibles)

>>4960421
kid chameleon
rocket knight
castle of illusion
if you try those games and dont like them then you definitely dont like genesis.

I agree that snes is way better but genesis still has some winners.
street fighter ii special championship edition is really good too

>>4968312
Kid Chameleon is so disgustingly overrated, it's not even funny.

>>4961992
I'm not buying this color shit.
the picture you posted is the most cherrypicked bullshut ever.
no yoshi's island
no f-zero
no super punchout
no kirby superstar
no earthbound

seriously insane you use mean bean machine of how colorful genesis is? kirby avalanche is just as colorful

>>4968312
I think it's fun, but you're allowed to like whatever you want.

>>4962236
Sames

>>4968312
Chameleon was fun for a few levels... and then it was just more of the same. The levels were too big and repetitive with no real fun.
The powerups were great, but not enough to save the game.

>>4968247
In that case I agree with you as well.

let me know when snes sounds this good

https://youtu.be/XG1c2U4ld2Y

https://youtu.be/nD8RTH-t0ow?list=PL4AB369787487EC46

https://youtu.be/2ILFRqhQqN8

https://youtu.be/taoVgN_izJ4
(literally a nintendo song but better lul)

https://youtu.be/I_essaYuKj8

https://youtu.be/_FqhvROuGPQ

https://youtu.be/BheXgfrMaGs

https://youtu.be/uMHFn-YAfWI

>>4960421
I liked both consoles. In fact when I was little I probably liked Genesis more by a slight margin. However going back on these emulators it seems pretty clear to me now that SNES was always superior. So now I've realized SNES is superior for most of my life.

So if I could rank the consoles on a grade, SNES would be an A+ and Genesis would be a B-

SNES is a terrible system if you want to play something besides RPGs. The original weeb console for westerners.

>>4969186
>history revisionism

>>4968328
>the picture you posted is the most cherrypicked bullshut ever.

I agree with you but no doy. Have you ever once seen a comparison image on 4chan that wasn't extremely cherry-picked and biased? Come on.

>>4960421
>I don't like the genisis.

Okay, but how do you feel about the Genesis?

>>4968852
BRRRAAAAPFTZ

>>4960421
had both as a kid
Never got into Zelda. Never got into Metroid. Played a fucking asston of F-Zero and Mario Kart. We had other games, I can't remember them now. My brother was into Super Ghouls and Ghosts, and that shit was obnoxiously hard to me at the time.
On the Genesis, I played some sports games (mostly this one FIFA game), a fucking TON of Sonic, and then we had some other games I can't remember anymore.

In modern times, I mostly tend towards the Genesis, since all of the big games on SNES aren't really games I'm into.
nearly none of those games you listed are anything I'd have considered top-shelf Genesis games, even back in the day

Some of my favorite Genesis games nowadays would be (take note: some big games are missing since I haven't played them that much, like Revenge of Shinobi)
>S3&K
>Shadow Dancer
>Shinobi III
>Streets of Rage 2
>Gunstar Heroes
>Contra Hard Corps
>Castlevania Bloodlines
>Space Harrier II (really wish it wasn't a launch title -- it's held back a bunch by both the small ROM size and the lack of experience with the hardware the devs had, but I love this game)
>Super Fantasy Zone (sadly, didn't get a US release)
>Ranger-X

and at the time, I'd have probably been impressed with
>Outrun (in this age, I've got the Saturn version, the 3DS version, and Cannonball)
>Super Hang-On (3DS version and MAME largely replace it)

>>4962005
still continually angry at how bad GEMS games sound
it's not even the engine's fault, it had an asston of features and shit designed entirely around making the process of making something for the Genesis fairly easy

unfortunately, western devs are lazy shits and instead of spending some time tweaking the song to sound right like the workflow is designed to encourage, they'd just throw whatever at the wall and ship it after composing their song elsewhere

>>4968320
>>4968782
god, this
everyone and their dog kept recommending me KC to play
I got around to it only a few years ago and fuck, I really don't know what everyone saw in it

maybe it's just how big it is

>>4968328
it's bait, mate

>>4961869
I like Comix Zone, but it's got an absolute laundry list of stupid design decisions.
which is a shame, because it's a stylish game that looks good and leverages the typical western-developed Genesis twangy sound into something that sounded nice

>>4961063
I remember mostly being impressed with how stylish the game looked at the time. I don't actually remember if I thought it was any good, and I wouldn't put it in any top lists nowadays.

>>4966919
This guy gets it

>>4969663

besides super mario world, dkc 1-3 and the super star wars games most SNES games don't appeal to me

>>4969679
>I like Comix Zone, but it's got an absolute laundry list of stupid design decisions.

idk about this. it's slightly too hard at parts and it should have infinite continues, but I don't mind the puzzle aspects so much. opinion I guess

>leverages the typical western-developed Genesis twangy sound into something that sounded nice

yess. it's arguable the most realistic sounding fm guitar on the system. only time trax and maybe vapor trail come close. but comix zone dedicates 4 channels to guitar, just so he can make it strum. it's ridiculous.

>>4970926
I'm not sure if he was talking about the puzzle stuff. To me that's one of tge things I like about it, lots of replayability as you figure out different routes makes replaying the early levels more interesting while you tackle the later ones. I'm kind of a Comix Zone fanboy though.

>>4969505
stop being a shitposter you actual kid

>>4970940
what else is there to criticize then?

I've played both consoles a lot and the Genesis is vastly superior. The only time Nintendo was better than Sega was in the NES vs Master System days.

>>4970945
I’m 35 believe it or not

>>4970926
>should've had infinite continues
If there's no fail state it's not a proper game
See MGS

>>4969663
>still continually angry at how bad GEMS games sound

yea but have you heard nightmare circus? it's kinda awful but also awesome at the same time.

https://youtu.be/rvwzMnyIudU?list=PL-vD6rIjXrcJYrw7Ip2tUhwjvArY1ex6Z

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_z_LSGvKgA&index=16&list=PL-vD6rIjXrcJYrw7Ip2tUhwjvArY1ex6Z

https://youtu.be/jRv2mC04fwk?list=PL-vD6rIjXrcJYrw7Ip2tUhwjvArY1ex6Z

https://youtu.be/1w6BFceU6_w?list=PL-vD6rIjXrcJYrw7Ip2tUhwjvArY1ex6Z


>>4970983

i don't agree. if a game lets you continue repeatedly but at the beginning of the stage it's fine. see: castlevania

Ghouls 'n Ghosts
Castlevania: Bloodlines
Castlevania:
Gunstar Heroes
Alien Soldier
Langrisser series
Shining force seriesCrusader of Centy
Herzog Zwei
Musha
Rocket Knight Adventures
Sparkster: Rocket Knight Adventures 2
Chiki Chiki Boys
Phantasy Star II
Phantasy Star: The End of the Millennium
The Revenge of Shinobi
Shinobi III: Return of the Ninja Master
The Hyperstone Heist
Sonic Trilogy & Knuckles
Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair
Wonder Boy in Monster World
Monster World IV
Landstalker
Streets of Rage series
Ecco the Dolphin series
Aladdin
Castle of Illusion
World of Illusion
Quackshot
Alisia Dragoon
Ranger X
Comix Zone
Earthworm Jim series
Beyond Oasis
Ristar
Super Hydlide
Vixen 357
Fatal Labyrinth

>>4970957
You'd have to ask him about that. There's a whole laundry list apparently.

>>4960458
lol. You will never see cloth physics this good until luigis haunted mansion

>>4971105
Everything in Vectorman is pre-rendered.

>>4971115
and? so was donkey kong country. Did you see flags like that? didn't think so

>>4960421
That's maybe because you don't play many retro games besides JRPG's and Mario.
I can agree that SNES has a better catalogue overall, but Genesis is almost as impressive if you have decent taste. Shinobi, the Wonderboy series, Beyond Oasis, Warsong, Valis III, CV Bloodlines, Streets of Rage, Zero Wing jare all very good, and I'm just naming a few that are on the top my head.

nintendo is shit gay arse mario mushrooms and zelda fairy forest shit .megadrive had ninjas like shinobi and strider and chad shit like streets of rage..

>>4968328
>Mean Bean Machine
>when I posted Puyo Puyo
Based Amerifat. Keep playing your Syoohpur Nintendo.

>>4971105

>>4971209
This

>>4960421

Nice SEGAB8 thread, faggot.

>>4971209

based

>>4971209
nintendo soiboys btfo

>>4971209
Well ACTUALLY, Sega has plenty of gay shit like Sonic, Ristar, Fantasy Star and Pocahontas, but Sega is cool and isn't homophobic so that's fine.
You, on the other hand, are beisd and redpeild.

>>4970926
>it should have infinite continues
It's too short to have infinite continues which is also it's only real flaw IMO. Game needed one more chapter.

>>4971639
yeah but now it feels to long without them

>>4971646
Nah, it doesn't feel too long at all. Games just had a different dynamic back then. You'd start playing for the first time and get your shit rocked early on. But you keep returning to it because you're likely to get further in each time you play, repeating until you can hopefully beat it. And it's not like the games are long so it's not really a problem doing that. The correct way to play games from this era (especially the difficult ones) is to play until you rage quit and then pick it back up again a few hours later. Games these days just kinda take you along for the ride.

>>4971986

i'm impatient and have add probably lul

>>4971986
Well said. It's a shame some people can't get over this design philosophy. Learning how to get through a game which is both challenging and well-designed can be a very good time.

>>4971105
looks like shit honestly

>>4960421

You obviously don't know how to play as good or fast as I do. I've been playing Sonic The Hedgehog since the time I owned a Sega Genesis back in 1991. I was able to beat the game under an hour & have the PS3 trophy to prove it. In fact I've mastered all Sonic games, including Sonic CD(gathering emeralds for that game was hard, but doable).

Beat pic related yesterday and enjoyed every second of it. Now I'm planning to finish Wonderboy III on the master system.
Yes, I'm excited for the new Monster World game.