/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[08-01] Windows versions of Wing Commander 1 & 2 now moddable
https://www.wcnews.com/news/2018/07/31/wc1-hack-enables-hd-ships
https://www.wcnews.com/news/2018/07/29/kilrathi-saga-tools-released-use-to-help-identify-music

[08-01] Nightdive releases a remaster of Forsaken
https://youtu.be/OfDSXz1HTYU

[08-01] Complete Clusterfuck updated
https://pastebin.com/ww8UVrk3
https://mega.nz/#F!GdsVnKyY!tBahBv35NujhwVpUxAkpDQ

[08-01] HUMP Mini for Heretic released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101302-hump-mini-community-project-released/

[07-31] LegenDoom updates to 2.3
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=51035

[07-31] GZDoom 3.5.0 Released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=61482

[07-31] 2018 Quake award winners announced
http://www.quakeawards.com/2018-award-winners/

[07-29] Addons for Samsara
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=61431

[07-25] Brutal Doom adds in a flamethrower for whatever reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CdCKx7Dd7I&ab_channel=SGtMarkIV

[07-25] Colorful Hell updates to 0.942
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1065240#p1065240

[07-23] Fan-made PBR pack released for Doom 64 Retribution, also compatible with Consolation Prize counterpart
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=61399

[07-19] Redneck Rampage source port in RedneckGDX is now in early development
https://youtu.be/O3CtVzcr_Pg

[07-19] Anon wants some DarkXL things in news post
http://xlengine.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1062&sid=f969982a628c5402743c2964c3390605
https://github.com/luciusDXL/XL-Engine
https://www.gamepressure.com/download.asp?ID=62915

[07-17] Ion Maiden to have a multiplayer beta coming later this year, may lead to proper EDuke32 multi as well
http://www.ionmaiden.com/

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Oh yeah, it's SCREENSHOT SATURDAY
WHAT'RE YOU BOYS WORKING ON? MAPS? SPRITES? GAMEPLAY SHIT? LET'S SEE IT.

Shit, last thread ended just as I asked, so I might as well ask again here.
I wanna try out arcane dimensions but I know jack shit about modding quake. What do I need to do to play this gorgeous mod for the greatest HUHing simulator of all time?

>>4953846
>Download quake gog, OP link and whatever the shit
>Download FItzquake or QUakespasm and extract it at quake folder
>Download and extract arcane dimensions, crerate a folder named AD if the zip doesnt have it
>create a shortcut using fitzquake or quakespasm, right click, proprieties, destiny and put this at the end -game ad

or download Simple Quake Launcher 2

>>4953831
>I'm stuck in System Shock 1.
>I've destroyed all the cameras
>Have no idea what to do
>Look a walkthrough
>I have to go to some random room I've been before so I can use the elevator.

How the hell was I supposed to know that? I'm playing with 2 on every stat

>I'm stuck in System Shock 1.
>I've destroyed all the cameras
>Have no idea what to do
>Look a walkthrough
>I have to go to some random room I've been before so I can use the elevator.

How the hell was I supposed to know that? I'm playing with 2 on every stat

>>4953835
I'm just playing this map

what did they mean by this?

>>4953872
Not the point of screenshot Saturday.
>WHAT'RE YOU BOYS WORKING ON?
is the point of screenshot saturday.

>>4953880
I think that guy might be a shitposter, or just from /v/

>>4953883
Given what he's trying to invoke it's obvious he's not from here.

>>4953886
>>4953883
or he made a simple mistake you tinfoil-hat-wearing pants-shittingly-paranoid gits

>>4953872
It's the year 2022...
People are still the same.
They'll do anything to get what they need.
And they need ONIONS GREEN.

>>4953896
>simple mistake

you underestimate the mindset of the /v/irgin

>>4953872
> what did they mean by this?
IS PEOPLE!

>>4953897
I could've sworn I typed basedle- is this 4chan's fault? Anyway it's supposed to be a reference to söylent green you uncultured swine

What are some of your favorite creative tricks in classic Doom mapping?
Like certain use of textures, sectors, limitations etc that you liked

>>4953896
nah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEKf5EW1CrM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBFk-f0W-d0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6ZAEv15yzU

Im not diggin guncaster
mayber its the mapset

>>4953913
The portrait art for the characters is pretty nice, how recent is that?

>>4953908
The way people did bridges above ground was a fun one. A whole section of lightspeed lifts designed so you could walk across.

Neat how Guncaster is designed around Hexen

>>4953936
how so?
I have tried Hexen a couple of times but I always end up losing steam and dropping it

>>4953947
I’ve been seeing that same shotgun for years and I’ve never figured out where it came from.

>>4953908

I always enjoy when you leave one room and enter into a new "world", with the room you just left completely disappearing. Strange Aeons used this trick a lot. Bridges (not bullshit invisible ones) and moving fans are also pretty cool.

>>4953908
I thought the trick used to make this look a bridge was neat. It's just a darkened 1 pixel wide sector raised on both sides to give it that look.

>>4953872
Onions Green

>>4953897
>>4954004
>söy=onions
>söylent=Onions
Thanks /pol/

>>4953835
After months of stalling, I finally finished up the new shotgun guy, I'm hoping he'll stand out a bit more visually. The previous graphic for him made him kind of murky and sometimes he could be hard to spot in time, not good when he hurts like shit, and can actually shoot pretty rapidly.

This is a fucking terrible screenshot of him, because I'm refusing to go up in his face to get a good look at him when he's in action. I'll post him in a sec.

>>4954014

I'm the one who made that drawing.
I've also made one for Half-Life.
sorry for the quality.

>>4953940
How you get weapons and powers in Hexen seems scaled to go with Guncaster (at least Guncaster Vindicated)

Also, the dragon dude responds to when the skullface in Hexen calls him stuff.

>>4953872
I liked that map except for the hitscan ship at the end. I just didn't have enough ammo to deal with it.

>>4953949
doom 3/ 2.5

T-Tom, that wasn't weed...!

Anyone else with retro fps on steam get this sometimes? I'll restart steam/open it up after restarting my PC and notice there are a bunch of updates with no bytes for random retro FPS for some reason. It's not just the ones listed here but theyre usually on the update page when this happens.

also inb4 >using steam xddd

>>4953908
I've always liked basic stuff like fake deep water, or mid textures for various kinds of creative structures that look like they couldn't otherwise have been made in vanilla.

I'm pretty sure it was Boom format, but there's a level in BTSX2 where you start and there's a courtyard that's dry dirt, and you flip a switch and this place later transforms to a lake, like it was filled up by a reservoir.
I thought that was REALLY neat.

>>4954084
Feels kind of weird to blast these dudes with shotguns.

>>4954096
>using steam
xddd

For the anon who's making the Samsara monster mixer, when do you plan on releasing the mod?

>>4954031
I would've his shoulderpads and kneepads green. It's a tad off to have only one portion of him be one color.

>>4954096
Maybe just interal database edits that accidentally get pushed to clients with no info? Idunno.

So Quakeaddicted is down here in Europe,anyone can suggest me some Quake mods?

Can we share some /comfy/ doom experiences?

>Late 2000's when I first got all the doom games again and played through all the big megawads back to back while listening to the Metallica discography
>Last few years and after finishing study, have some Adderall left over so take a bunch of them and blast away like a mad bastard for a few hours in Vanguard and finish it in one go while listening to retrowave

>>4954128

I don't really have a time frame for any of this since I generally just work on it when I get bored.

But at the worst I'd say hopefully by the end of the year.

I mainly want to finish out the Quake set, add a few new monster modifiers, and finish the Doom 64 addon set (as an example on how people could add their own sets) before I put out a new version.

>>4954239
Will it still have monstersets from the games with playable characters in the main Samsara mod?

Ok Im going to play hexen
warrior, cleric, mage or Overpowered furry dragon?
Im thinking mage because his staff weapons are not bugged thanks to the widescreen

>>4954245
Mage if you wanna go ZAP MOTHAFUCKA on bitches and take advantage of his amazing starting weapon, or just go full fighter and punch everything to death.

Is there a source port for Dark Forces or will I have to use dosbox?

>>4954239
Takes multiple point blank shots to kill?

>>4954245
there's a patch floating around somewhere that fixes the clipped sprites in widescreen resolutions.

>>4954150
I was thinking about that, but a lot of the other guys already have colored pads and stuff, I was thinking he would stand out a bit from those, so you don't get them confused at a distance or glance.

>>4953857
sweet. is there anything i should do, like how to turn off these >filters or how to increase FOV?

>>4953835
Working in the Tutorial Map for Hunter's Moon, i passed beyond the time to make such thing because i see many people getting lost in all of its mechanics and stuff of the kind.

>>4954158
Quaddicted is where mods and maps are stored, right?
Has anyone from anywhere else made archvie download links with content from that place?

>>4953947
what mod? Looks sweet.

>>4954312
>archvie
Wanted to spell archive but i guess my brain mixed it with archvile

>>4954037
YOU FUCKED UP MY FACE

>>4954281
>because his staff weapons are not bugged thanks to the widescreen
I've got you.

https://my.mixtape.moe/wxgeno.wad

>>4954321
Whoops, meant for >>4954245

>>4954316
Insanity Requiem:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=37130&sid=8f16808e42989398010742c711bd9072

Fearrific textures:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/fearrific-project-brutality-revised
You have to download the entire package and then y
only take the F5_Textures file.

Doomvisor by Mike12

>>4954242

Yes, after this update all of the stock playable Samsara characters will have their monsters available.

>>4954279

It takes the same amount of shots as it does in Quake. I'm flipping between the single and double shotguns so I can force them to gib.

The webm is showing that I was able to replicate Quake's gibbing system.

>>4954342
It may never happen but if Doomguy ever got in Smash, i always wondered if enemy would make the best choice for an assist trophy.

>>4954285
google quakespasm console commands
quite a few useful options are console commands but not menu options

>>4954348
They would problably go for Nu-Doom designs.
I think it might be the Cacodemon(the most iconic) or the Cyberdemon.

>>4954245
Duke Nukem.

>>4954353
Which is weird considering how more iconic classic Doom is and how busy looking some of the later Doom designs are
How characters are represented is usually a deal in Smash (at least for third parties) which is why Snake is a mix of two Snake's

>>4954281
>>4954321
nice
now I dont know if I want to punch with the fighter or crusade with the cleric

>>4954353
>>4954363
You know, original Caco does actually look pretty cartoony and family friendly.

>>4954363
Bayonetta kinda did the same.
She had outfits from both of her games.

Snake was basically had Solid outfit but with Big Boss face.
The issue is he managed to get in despite having little history with Nintendo.
Aside from those 2 ports for the NES of Metal Gear and the remake for the Gamecube of MGS 1 there was nothing else at the time he debuted.
And all the references were from MGS 1,maybe it was because Kojima and Sakurai are pals.

Doomguy on the other hand is from a series that sure has Hell and all but it never took itself nearly as seriously as Metal Gear.
The problem are=
-His weaponry:Snake uses explosives and Sakurai doesn't want any realistic gun in Smash.
And one of Doomguy's signature weapons is the SSG.

-Doom is not that popular in Japan but that didn't stop Little Mac from Punch Out to get in,and the latter is almost unknown in Japan.

>>4954382
Pretty sure Sakurai once mentioned John Carmack in some interview about notorious devs, even if it doesn't mean much
I'd say the issue is that most of the time, it's western companies themselves that can be an issue with crossovers, due to some copyright stuff or not caring that much
I can also see a scenario where they shove in Dovahkiin instead
Speaking of weapons, Doomguy does have some unrealistic ones, but i wondered if the SSG could get in if it got cartoonish proportions or was colored like the NES Zapper

>>4954379
The problem with Caco are those two buttholes.
But I think they can get rid of those.

>>4954392
>two buttholes
Anon, you know ladies like the caco have another orifice down there, right?

>>4954391
we all know that carmack was an asshole when it came to game developing, just look at the doom console ports history.

>>4954392
They also should probably edit the hanging guts to look like normal bumps.
...
And now I'm thinking that Caco kinda looks like something from Lumpy Space (from Adventure Time)

>>4954392
I wished they could base him off Doom 64, since he even looks like a transformed Scarfy from Kirby, but D64 is on a trademark limbo, from what i heard.

i just realized the doomslayer in gmota may be the closest to there being player sprites based off the night sentinels

>>4954398

That's a shame, because I'd love for a classic Doom pack for the Switch that included Doom 64.

>>4954391
Fox gun in the last game kinda looks like the one you see in D44M. But I think they should go for a mix between Classic and D44M in terms of weapons.
For the SSG they might use the Quake Champions model which looks more "unrealistic".

Doom 64 might be out of the question because it's still stuck in copyright limbo.

>>4954408
It's weird because D64 is a literal N64 exclusive from Doom
Also, speaking of Quake, his taunt could be the Quake 3 one and outro/victory animation could maybe be his QC intro

>>4954412
I was thinking the same thing.
Right when he punches the screen,the name appears and the background change.
For the models they might use the models from Quake Champions for Classic Doomguy.
The colours should be:
-Orange: as reference for Phobos in Q3.
-Silver/white: Crash,also from Q3.
-Brown/orange:as reference for Ranger from Quake.Which had a port on the N64.

For Doomslayer,I don't know maybe a colour palette as reference for Night Sentinels.

For assist trophies,I have no idea.
A Cacodemon shooting fireballs while flying around maybe.

What would be some good WADs for coop?

Is it worth playing through the Marathon games? I used to read parts of the the Marathon story website and I thought it was rad as hell

>>4954443
The first game is really good. The other 2 are just okay. The lack of music in M2/3 really kill it for me.

>>4954440

MM and MM2 are the classics. Empyrion isn't bad

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/94601-empyrion_v39-14-udmf-coop-maps-with-single-player-support/

>>4954440
Either alien vendetta or memento mori was designed for it, forget which one

>>4954446
>>4954440

Btw if you play Empyrion be sure to play it on Slaughter difficulty which replaces NM otherwise you'll find there's far too few enemies.

>>4954428
Most of the soundtrack could be remixes of classic and modern soundtrack
His symbol could be a UAC logo or the mark of the slayer
His stage could be just some random floating platforms with classic/modern props and that Hangar building from KNITD's intermission screen in the background

what if metadoom has codex entries for each game in the series?

I've been reading some stuff, which was just some posts on someone's blog where they discussed this and it's that id may own Doom 64, then ZeniMax "bought it" from id, while Aubrey Hodges owns the soundtrack?

>>4954298
make sure there is a working mirror as a homage to first map in q3a

Camping Simulator 2018

(1994TU)

Something i do like about Plutonia is how the sixth map has that floating cube that gives you items
I like to imagine it as the Doom version of the question mark block from Mario

>>4954476
Oh yeah, i'll do that probably right in the lobby of the temple soon as you open the door.

What happened to QuakeForge? Last update is 2013 according to Sourceforge repo.

Hey Repugnus, are we going to get any new textures to use for the Halloween mapset, or must we stick to the Gothic Orange set?

>>4954498
Can I have a link to this orange gothic set?

>>4954502
It's a custom one based after the Gothic textures, I think someone posted it in a previous thread, give me a moment to see if I can find it.

Has anyone ever thought of recreating Doomguy's status bar face in the style of Doom 64?
I can already imagine Doomguy looking like that dude from Small Soldiers

>>4954509
Danger Chip or something? That dude reminded me of Sarge

Well that's horrifying

>>4954342
UUURRRHHH

>>4954516

>>4954516
what was?

>>4954535
The sky,it's literally watching me.

Oh dear god,this is truly hellish

>>4954342
If they do him, they'd have to make him as blocky as his original model.

>>4954552
give me that texture pack!

>>4950758
Bumping this, in case anyone knows.

>>4954636
Fearrific, you have to download the whole thing and then only take the F5_Textures file

>>4954631
Like this?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t4YwjGFYn4M

Is it possible to use Project Brutality on the Hell on Earth Starter pack?

I keep getting

Script error, "Project Brutality 2.03.pk3:cvarinfo" line 1:
cvar 'bd_bloodamount' already exists

when I try.

>>4954675
oh no the filters have made it to real life we're doomed

>>4954696
That reminds me, Private Johnson 3 put something in extermination day a while ago that would crash PB users? I think he removed it though, so this might be a case of his "quality" coding getting in your way. I think you need to try to use extermination day (the standalone version of hell on earth starter pack) instead of hell on earth starter pack itself.

>>4954552
i cant find this doomvisor, i keep getting lead to like "ultimate doom visor" which is an overdone crap

>>4954716
I'll try that thanks.

>>4954728
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=35529&start=180

>>4954696

It means one of the two files are defining a cvar that, well, already exists.
Check to see if Hell on Earth has a cvarinfo file, and if so, remove it.

>>4953958
what map is this?

>>4954158
>>4954312
Admin is just fussing over nothing. It'll get online once they decide on the privacy policy (likely to be copied from some other filesharing service)

Meanwhile how can one download that kind of archive (including descriptions, ratings and comments). I know there are some software that allows downloading entire sites offline, but they dont play nicely with scripts or pages of any sort of complexity. If anyone could link me to such program I'll try to create a mirror of Quaddicted as it is now.

>>4954298
You really should include some kind of "fast traversal" tool for all the characters to use. Te very first level is a fuckhuge corridor and secret hunting becomes a major chore when running from one end of the level to the other takes 10 miutes of real time. Maybe some kind of ultra-dash that is 5-7 times faster than run, but does not allow you to shoot while dashing? Or a motorcycle/howerboard.

Man, Arcane Dimensions is fucking pretty
is there any equivalent in the Doom engine?

>>4954781
It's from HUMP-mini. Check the news post for a link. It was fun.

>>4954781
I'm aware of that problem with such map you are referring to, i said to another anon many threads ago that Baerhon's Lair are going to be removed in the next update, that maps is very flawed in the navigation, time to travel between places and too hidden secrets with no hint they are there (some are even try once like the OEDB in the rising lava room).

I can say that i'll be salvaging only the bosses from that two maps since they have their info by pressing F1 on the supposed level.

For the map pack status now: Baerhon's Lair Part 1 was replaced by Rarlocan Main Base and Part 2 was replaced by Monoliths of Agora.

Also, for secrets i'll be using that SECRETS lump to help players know in what room they are.

>>4953958
heh, I wondered if anyone would notice that.

Vanilla mapping forces you to get creative

You ever watch a movie or see a video or something and think about making a doom mod dedicated to capturing that exact feeling?

I saw Heat today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60-sEXUPBY

Expect progress soon.

>>4954725
>Tfw touhou doom is a thing but touhou quake isn't

>>4954842
Nice. I've got a little bit of Heat in the back of my mind too with my mod.

Lost in Hexen
Is it normal to be lost? Searching for switches...

>>4954869
hexen is 100% dungeon crawling, getting lost is normal

>>4954869
yes. consult a walkthrough. I also got lost many times in Hexen. even in the first hub.

Hexen 2 is even worse...

Both great games though, don't get me wrong. They just expect a VERY high level of problem solving and careful exploration from the player

So aside from one or two maps which I didn't much like, D2TWID has been quite good. Would recommend, in case anyone here hasn't played it yet, like my slow ass.

I'd say it almost doesn't work as its concept (The Way Id Did It) because it averages like 7/10 across the board, with a few particularly good ones standing out, while the original Doom 2 kind of just averages 5, maybe 6 out of 10, and there's like only a select few above that.

I love the secret hunting, it's very neat.

>there are still people who recommend Memento Mori as a must-play megawad in 2018

>>4954880
I haven't touched it in like, maybe a decade.
How's it like? Is it good difficulty, or does it just plop down swarms of monsters with little thought?

>>4954880
2018 must play is Struggle: Antaresian Legacy

>>4954885
That screenshotted map is definitely like that. You finish blasting through a hallway of 50 imps to be greeted with 20 cacos. It's not downright bad/unfun, but not especially good.

going to the show?

>>4954891
Well, it's one of the very first full megawads, I guess people were still learning and figuring out what works and what doesn't.

Are all the levels like that or are there some good ones too? How's layout, interesting or really bland, easy to navigate or a samey-ass maze?

>Extra Heroes is only compatible with a Samsara version you can't find absolutely anywhere
what the fuck

>>4954903
I was gonna say try to make it compatible yourself but then I vaguely recall hearing SAMSARA's code was a pot of linguini, so maybe not.

>>4954892
Sounds groovy

>>4954042
Cygnis is also edited into the images that appear at the end an episode or IWAD.

>>4954863
what mod may that be?

I know Hideous Destructor exists but it's definitely more Way of the Gun in its shootouts. Lots of cover, much realism, but almost no movement at all. Once a firefight starts you pretty much camp out in your area and pop in and out. Hoping to make it just as tactical but faster and more cat-and-mouse, you know what I mean?

I don't know if the music in Wolfen is original but its good

/r/ing the Hexen calarts pic

>>4954971

>>4954974
thank

>>4954903

What version does it need?

Do you guys ever call the demons in Doom, doomons? Because I do.

>>4954846
There's always Kawaiik.

>>4953908

The mirror trick and haunted bathroom like doom 3 in JPCP blew my mind

>>4953908
The time machine level in Going Down was super neat. Not technically impressive, just simple teleporting, but thematically was genius, I loved that whole level.

>>4954968
ICD: Counter-Diabolic Commando
The CAR15 kind came to me with thoughts about Heat, and though taking cover isn't strictly 100% necessary at all times, it's usually a good idea.
I always find myself stacking up at doors and trying to get a view in at an angle, with as little exposure as possible, often I'll clear with a grenade first. If I gotta drop down some shaft, I definitely drop a grenade to clear.

I should probably add an ingame manual via F1 once it's done, to give some tips on how things play out and what to do and don't.
Tanking damage is a ludicrously bad idea for instance, and should be avoided at all costs, dodge and cover for your life.

If I could script and shit and do crazy ZScript magic, it'd be interesting to experiment with suppression mechanics, where maybe some of the smarter monsters will dive for cover if a stream of lead is passing near (or hitting them a bunch). That way, it would be slightly more like Heat, given the emphasis on suppressing fire in the street shootout.

>>4955016
Going Down is full of neat mapping tricks, people who map for Boom format should all take a look at it at least once.

>>4954516

What wad?

>>4954994
0.31 beta, very specifically, other versions throw errors

>>4955064
https://my.mixtape.moe/smhttd.pk3
rename to "samsara-v0.31-beta.pk3"

>>4954869
Yes, that's its most common complaint, the whole "a door opened somewhere". Same with Doom maps like KDIZD.

Made a speedmap. 1 hour vanilla format
I'm a fairly new mapper and I left a lot shit unpolished (just look at the textures.) but I think I had something going.
https://my.mixtape.moe/debakq.wad

deepdream doom update: wrote a shell script to process my deepdream generator's -frame outputs and combine them into 2x2 images, plus a glsl shader that does some crude animation with interpolation. No animdefs needed. Current issues are that the animation timer varies per sector, and the actual animation kinda looks like shit. I'm thinking I'll need to find a more deterministic deepdream program where I can adjust the number of octaves and get consistent results, because iterating on the same image with the same settings just looks like I'm boosting the contrast..

Finished starting area of "Training Grounds", lol now going to map the other 99% of the map.

>>4955125
here are my 5 cents
>extremely basic layout, no height differences
>you dont need to make a linear map with keys, getting rid of them may give gameplay a lot better flow
>not all doors need to be there, you can have some of them open which would help with final fight
>too little health until after blue key doors
>pain elemental works best when its alerted before player can see it, the way you set it up I had no problem with killing everything before I got to meatball, then I just cockblocked it and got out unharmed
>final fight is fairly bullshit, not because you give us two archviles and two revenants in front of corpses to resurrect, but because there is little place to move, barely any cover and you are surrounded by doors which further prevent you from moving around well
managed to beat it on first try on hmp, but it doesnt mean I enjoyed it, especially final fight where I took plenty of damage I could avoid if certain doors werent there or were open

>>4955160
that's six cents

>>4955160
Thanks.
>no height differences
Yeah, I had grander ideas for that.
>keys
yeah, I was realizing that like really late on but didn't have time to fix it.
>doors
Again, I realized the doors were silly when I had like a minute left.
>too little health
not gonna be a fag and say that it was meant to be that way, but it was.
>pain elemental
You're right.
>final fight
lol. yeah. I realized that room was empty and I had a bit of an excess of ammo from getting the yellow key in my playtests.

Have you LIRAPS'D OT DEREDNERRUS yet?

>>4955171
I get that it was meant that way, in terms of health, but what you could have done is move some healthpacks from last area to early area, so you have at least two stimpacks there

Tfw playing TOO MUCH Quake and suddently gets...

How the fuck am I supposed to run Samsara with the addon?

>>4955125
few thoughts:
- all the encounters are the same: you open a door and theres a horde or monsters in front of you but the corridors are so tight that you only take damage from the odd hitscan bullet that gets through
-couple of the doors only work on one side
-every room is flat, add things to run up/around to make rooms more interesting
-the double arch rev fight worked well with the tight corridors imo, forcing you to rush forward before the revs get revived. the doors make backing up frustrating though

>>4955125
I'll make a demo for you.

I really wanna make a strogg-universe themed weapon wad, but I cant program for shit, what do? decorate is challenging and zscript just scares me.

am I the only one to find machinegames' quake episode just really forgettable and bland?

>>4955239
it wasn't too bad.

now, the new colossus, hoo boy.

>>4955239
it was better than their official wolf games lmao

>>4955242
Nah, The New Order and The Old Blood are great.
That episode wasn't too bad.

It's just The New Colossus that ruined everything.

Don't know why GZDoom doesn't just keep a "legacy" renderer in the main version as a fallback, instead of fucking around with all these surveys. Most users probably wouldn't even notice.

>>4954869
its funny
when I first played hexen 1 and 2 everytime I got lost so bad I was just wasting time I would start a new game and get farther, then get lost and start a new game
It was a fun way to try all the characters, but it was a tedious too and in hindsight probably stupid.

>>4955248
>Nah, The New Order and The Old Blood are great.
Nah, they're not.

>>4955249
>Don't know why GZDoom doesn't just keep a "legacy" renderer in the main version as a fallback
They literally made the surveys so that they didn't have to keep maintaining support for old systems.

>>4955252

At least in the first two games you don't have to press a button to win the final boss fight immediately.

What happened to that guy who made that upgrade for smooth doom changing the colors and stuff?

>>4955262
Machinegames Wolf suffer from "How much cringy plot and tedious cutscenes can I get away with?" syndrome. Aforementioned shit negates everything good there is about their games. Old Blood is the only one that is "passable".

>>4955072
dude you fucking rock, worked like a charm

Can you play Golden Souls 2 in co-op?

>>4955267
New Order shares a spot with Dying Light for being one of the only video games I have dropped to due the writing being so fucking insufferable

>>4955271
I forgot dying light had a story
we were too busy being retards in coop and completely ruining the atmosphere of the game

>>4955267
The writing wasn't too bad. I really liked that version of Blazkowicz.
The problem was that certain cutscenes dragged for too long.
The gameplay was really good too.
The New Colossus gunplay was good too but it was constantly interrupted by the plot.

>>4955125
Here you go.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/s49sbgvnuv0tm82/debakqFDA.lmp

This demo contains a voice recording in it that basically has my real-time reactions and thoughts to everything. It's a normal PRBoom demo that will play in normal PRBoom, but this fork can let you hear the recording audio: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/96894-my-prboom-build-with-in-demo-voice-recording-support-and-something-extra/

Everything leading up to the final fight is pretty much forgettable because there's not much to do except pop in and out of cover to mow down the clumps of hitscanners, do a simple rushdown of the elemental, and then just kinda clear out every room with a couple pulls of the super shotty. If you didn't already mention to other posters that you didn't intend the doors to end up the way they did, I would have assumed that the final fight was designed to be a puzzle of opening doors in advance so the player could back up from the incoming archies without getting cornered. There may be an idea there, though it certainly was frustrating for me as a player to discover.

There isn't much else to say about it; it's clear that this is meant to be practice getting acquainted with mapping rather than an actually fun map for players. But just cranking shit out for the sake of getting experience is how you gotta do it, so keep at it. Thanks for the map.

>>4955270
You technically can't because it's heavily scripted, but some people still managed to play it, with a few compromises: Coins are individually stored, so that means you won't be able to unlock golden weapons or the secret levels unless only one player grabs them. A workaround is to simply cheat them with Give Big_Coin (number) in console, or Give Star_Soul (number) for the golden souls, since those are individually stored too. Another issue is that only one player can fight the bosses unless the other noclips into the arena. There's probably more as the mod was meant as a singleplayer experience.

>>4955157
Have you tried this one: https://deepdreamgenerator.com/

>>4955253
They've admitted they'd decided on what they were cutting already, the data gathering was just to add legitimacy to that.

>>4955253
A survey 0.1% of all people who use GZDoom participated in it because nobody updates GZDoom unless a mod requires it, and survey version went past so quick I doubt even a 20 people used the survey feature.

>>4955310
>A survey 0.1% of all people who use GZDoom participated in it
You'd love that to be the case, wouldn't you?

>>4955310
At least do some research.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=59972

>>4955316
eh. Compare it to the maximum downloads of any version past 3.0 to get actual precentage. I don't see the data on actual downloads anywhere sadly.

>>4955316
>>4955314
wasn't there some massive "downt download it its malware that steals your shit" campaign that actively dissuaded people from downloading it?

>>4955320
On /doom/ there were a couple of paranoid schizos saying that, but they didn't get anywhere, especially after it was pointed out to them how gzdoom is open source.

>>4955316
Later Intel Athom are technically OpenGL 4 and Vulkan compatible, and GZDoom will run in GL4 mode. But it's slow as hell, much slower than GL2, and Vulkan compatibility is at "well, it can launch the executable" level. Asking the hardware about what it user uses is pretty much irrelevant for the supposed purpose of the survey, yet that's what Graf did.

>>4955157

On second thought I'll just run it 4 times. I'd still rather see deepdream patterns smoothly blossom out of the textures, but this looks trippy enough I guess.

>>4955304

It's likely that the site is using the same tool that I have (as what I'm looking for would only apply to animations), and it's infeasible to run every single texture through the site 4 times.

>>4955326
holy fuck...

>>4955157

On second thought I'll just run it 4 times. I'd still rather see deepdream patterns smoothly blossom out of the textures, but this looks trippy enough and I don't wanna overthink what is basically a joke wad. Just need to set the number of iterations higher and process the rest of the textures.

>>4955304

It's likely that the site is using the same tool that I have (as what I'm looking for would only apply to animations, which isn't supported on the site), and it's infeasible to run every single texture through the site 4 times.

>>4955328
holy fuck...

>>4955035
It's just Mt Erebus with Fearrific text8

>>4955324
It's not just compatibility, they checked for specs to see if it the user's system was strong enough. And intel numbers weren't even counted. Hell he later told intel users to upgrade because they were going to become extinct just like xp users.

>>4955328

Illustration of what I meant by octaves and features emerging if anyone cares. The deepdream program is able to do large-scale features by starting off with a smaller copy of the image, then repeating itself on a larger copy to get the finer details. The more octaves, the more it repeats this process.

>>4955337

I'm getting "head of DeSmuME vetos wifi emulation specifically to piss off Pokemon fans" vibes. That's not healthy for an open source program's future.

>>4955345
>I'm getting "head of DeSmuME vetos wifi emulation specifically to piss off Pokemon fans" vibes.
But it's not that at all. The unnecessary support for old hardware is something that affects game development, like a certain mmo that's getting held back by still supporting an ancient java client which causes bugs, delays and technical issues in general out the ass. The survey helps back them up when showing the the people who wouldn't benefit from this are nigh-nonexistant compared to the hundreds that do.

>>4955350
I'm also getting the
>"This game worked fine before, I ran it at all max 60 FPS but now it doesent run at all!"
>"Buy new computer lol"
vibes.

>>4955350

You have a point, I just disagree on what counts as "unnecessary".

>>4955345
for a real challenge, convert deep dreams into 3d levels

No idea why it's so hard to just leave an old renderer in the code, if it's sufficiently modularized (as it should be)

>>4955375

Well there's https://github.com/hiroharu-kato/deep_dream_3d but it only works on 3D models. Which rules out Doom and (I think) Quake's environments.

>>4955387
>>4955375

Though come to think of it, can Doom levels be exported as a text file? I have a text-generating neural network program lying around, maybe it could hallucinate Doom levels given enough input data.

I have this little dumb idea for a community project:
I would call it "In the realms of vanilla" it would be a collection of maps specifically designed for gameplay mods, yeah it would be a bit annoying to have to change wads every time you finish a level, but you would have a hub area like in compendium so you don't have use the console to jump around levels

sadly Im just learning to map so I still dont have the technical knowhow to put all that shit together

>>4954879
What weapons mod are you running?

>>4955403
the idea's been bounced around before, but it never got anywhere (presumably because no one ever bothered agreeing on what mods to map for)

I nominate extreme weapons pack

Postal Guy mod when

>>4955437
yeah but I was thinking of a free-for-all
it would be a bit of a mess for the player but I who cares
just Imagine, an assortment from GMOTA to Run for It

>>4954096
me

>>4955449
would be interesting desu especially since weapon models are easy to get as postal 2 has proper up-to-date sdk. the only problem I would see is too many weapons filling the same role, its mostly the case with melee

>>4955449
I want a Max Payne mod
they already got the slowmo

>>4955449
>>4955468
You would probably have to implement cats just randomly roaming around the level.
You know.
For the silencer.

>>4954880
It IS one of the first Megawads and the first community project, so it has a role in history

>>4953835
Making an icon for my Doom launcher...

>>4955405
Immoral Conduct: Counter-Diabolic Commando

I said about a year ago that I was gonna have a version ready for testing around Christmas, but then shortly after my hard drive died, so uh, we'll see. Early next year maybe.
Knock on wood.

>>4955239
I liked it.

>>4954239
what is this?

>>4954312
Func_msgboard

>complex doom clustermeme released
>might as well check it out
>so many files I can't make a shortcut with the command line because it doesn't fit
Alright fuck this, maybe later when it's actually a mod instead of fifty other things that haven't even been duct-taped together

>>4955610
Or you could use something like ZDL.

Why do people like DOOM 2 more than the original ?

There are so many DOOM 2 maps that seems like a 13 year old kid just though "HA Lets put as many huge monsters as possible, also lets punish people for finding secrets!"

>>4955640
D2 advantage over original is extra monsters and super shotgun, thats why everyone maps for it especially since each new monster except hell knight affects gameplay in significant way

>>4955640
if I had a nickel for every time someone complained about doom 2's level design here I would be a fucking millionare

>>4955640
Doom 2 has a varied mix of strong, mediocre, and weak maps. Most of the good ones are early on in the game. It's not bad, it's just flawed.

What really makes Doom 2 good is really just all the cool new assets that was made available for users, and how much crazy shit has spun from that ever since. The new monsters are great, and Final Doom really did a much better job with them across the board.

>>4955610
Or you could just read the ReadMe that straight up tells you to use ZDL and even provides a correct order.

> when it's actually a mod instead of fifty other things
Well it IS a modpack, what else did you expect?

>>4955683
>Well it IS a modpack, what else did you expect?
I dunno, a modicum of effort to be put into making it work smoothly?
this is literally half the reason GAMEINFO exists, so that you can have one mod autoload others

>>4953828
Is there a way to make Doom guy's face show at the bottom of GZDoom's alternative HUD option?

>>4955535
>update

Any tacticool UAC marine arts? Maybe not tacticool, but I like marines carrying modern-like firearms and equipment in general.

IT WOULD'VE BEEN AWFULLY NICE IF THE GAME TOLD ME THAT I ACTUALLY DON'T SPEND THE BIG GOLD COINS ON UPGRADES AND DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THEM AND UNLOCKING THE LAST LEVEL.

Anyone down to play some co-op? If so, what wad do you guys wanna go through?

To the anon doing the Samsara monster mixer, will the Quake monsters use 3D models or sprites?

>>4955640
>Why do people like DOOM 2 more than the original ?
People frequently says the complete opposite, not once have I seen anyone ever claim 2 is better.

>>4955772
Someone needs to rip metroid prime monsters 3d models

>>4955640
D2 being the weakest of the four official IWADs is a pretty common opinion. It however was still important for the SSG and new monsters, giving mappers more to work with.

>>4955786
You could.

>>4955795
Kinda makes me wonder why people never switched over to the plutonia wad as the go-to mapping iwad.

I guess just that less people have it.

Playing more DM4.
I really love this mapset.
Some of them are really tough but challenging

>>4955801
Yes, Doom 2 is older as well as being more widely known and available. It also would've likely been more difficult to get Final Doom.

>>4955796
wehm
>https://www.models-resource.com/gamecube/metroidprime/
>https://www.models-resource.com/search/?q=MEtroid

now someone needs to put them to use since GZD now supports it

>>4955812
Well shit mang. That's gotta be a whole lotta fun.

>>4955801
isn't final doom more difficult to play?

>>4955814
if you call Chaingun revenant and archvile traps fun...

>>4955181

oh shut up

>>4955328

Oh god i can't wait to play this and barf everywhere

>>4955331

Ohh, thanks

>>4955813
>>4955812

hey term, this kinda adds a new whole level right?
>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1447373231

Trying to get Quake to work on my computer via Darkplaces, but I have two problems:

>at 1080p the interface disappears, can't see my health/armor/face
>i can fix this by switching to 900p but cmon

>I want to disable all texture filtering so I just have those pixelly mipmaps, not the kind of blurry stuff i have on now, how would i do this? setting gl_texture_anisotropy to 0, 1, or -1 doesn't work

>>4955828
don't use darkplaces, its bugged as balls, use FTE, fitz or quakespasm

>>4955827
I'm pretty sure the major reason he didn't get C&D'd to death by Nintendo the way AM2R did is because he didn't use resource rips in Dreadnought, or at least not without modification to the point where a casual viewer wouldn't notice it.

Why is Ranger a Tier 1,while Bitterman and Doomguy are respectively Tier 2 and 6.
Is this supposed to be random or what?

Other than Xaero,I don't understand the choice of characters for each tier.

>>4955827

It does! That would've been really cool to get modelrips from to make sprites.
Hell, with a lot of modelrip work you could probably make an entire bestiary. Would've been cool, considering how few enemy mods there are.

>>4955831
keep in mind that AM2R C&D worked well for nintendo and the fans since they let everyone download it before the C&D, and it helped on SR PR since the game itself is good also it gave Samus RIP AND TEAR punches and energy whip as her doomy
Also Dreadnought is long dead and even struggling to work on modern GZD

But then the main problem is that no one can't do a Doom mod nowadays without Fucking PC Gamer and RPS stalking this place, its a miracle that Andrea's Golden souls is still up.

>>4955816
He didn't say fun...

>>4955838
I heard Golden Souls had to use new enemies beacuse Nintendo didn't wanted to see actual Mario enemies getting shot or something

>>4955838
>>4955831
also keep in mind AM2R was trying to recreate an actual game that was still being distributed while dreadnought was just a thing in general

dreadnought getting dmca'd likely wouldn't happen

>>4954498
I vote for doing another custom texture wad, I'd really like to use a few textures like a chandelier, shrubs, etc

>>4954502

>>4949923
>https://mega.nz/#!K4YTiSaJ!5LYiYdIaKy6w27K_oQIqrjpL8mD6kD_IECXhcyhqm1Y

>>4954869
It's practically Switch Hunt the game.

There are exactly 4 youtube results for "Doom ASMR".

>>4955917

>>4955838
>it helped on SR PR
How? From what I hear AM2R is the better game and SR was a mess of a remake

>>4955927
SR isn't very good. Honestly, the stop and go nature of the melee counters makes running around the world an obnoxious chore, plus even at the very end of the game, the most basic bitch enemies will stop you and you have to fight them, seeing as the screw attack was nerfed massively and a lot of enemies can resist being hit by it, hell there's a lot of enemies that can you hit OUT of the once borderline invulnerability the screw attack gave.

>>4955936

WHA THE FUCK SAKAMOTO?

>>4955917

Good to know

>>4955917
No there isn't. There's a lot more.

>>4955946
I'm not sure if we should blame Sakamoto again or Mercurysteam, they're idiots too. But this isn't doom related. So just don't bother with Samus Returns, it has a few music tracks, and Samus has a great armor design, everything else about it is either mediocre or annoying.

>>4955960
>>4955917

>ASMR: Doomguy unloads and reloads the super shotgun repeatedly while smooth jazz music plays

>>4954490
>no one answers
Only late millenials here?

>>4955936
>>4955927
>>4955838
Some more SR criticism while we're at it from a different dude:
Parry mechanic is the greatest detriment to the combat - while before basic enemies had some actual patterns now all of them just bumrush you once you enter their aggro zone only for you to parry them and dispose of them in one hit while they are stunned. The mechanic is cheap and uninteresting, but if you don't use it situation becomes opposite - enemies designed to be countered take too long to shoot down so if you forego the parry they are often guaranteed to hit you at least once.
Especially prominent in bossfights. Boss migration between arenas is a fresh idea... That does not work if a player uses parry because boss dies in the first area after just 3 parries, leaving other 1 (or 2 in some cases) zones completely empty and useless chunks of space.
Enemy variety was also greately nerfed.

Another thing is mechanics placed deliberately to prevent sequence breaking. In the game where that could be considered a prominent feature in the prior istallments. - like vacuum pipes that suck your bombs to prevent you from bombjumping too much.

>>4955978
a more likely answer is that other people know as much as you but answering with just "i dunno" would be a waste

Any way I can check player inventory from the console in GZDoom? I want to see if I have some token items or not. Is there a command for that?

What was that one metroid inspired mod that a guy from here made? Had a freeze gun and everything

>>4955978
>lets insult people that'll get me an answer quicker

fucktard

I don't get it, what's happening?

>>4955986
That was Space Hunter
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEYOn99AgZ8

>>4955992
It's a shame he didn't showcase the screw attack. Probably because it's a weapon that you don't get when using give all.

>>4955841
But Golden Souls has Snifits. They even make the same sound.

>>4955960
But why?

>>4956005
What do you mean "why"?

>>4955927
It's worse than Other M, no joke, gameplay wise.

>>4955970
>and Samus has a great armor design
I thought it looked awful, just made me wish it was Prime Samus again. This game has no redeeming qualities whatsoever and is just another fuck you to the fans like Federation Fore. What I find hilarious is how excited people were when it was revealed at e3 2014 and how "Metroid is back!" was being spouted all around. And prime 4 isn't even being developed by retro and is in development hell, what a shitshow.

>>4955917
https://youtu.be/LmaL69poIKk
Does this count?

>>4956017
Don't slit your wrists.

>>4956006
Why there are so many?

>>4956017
Serves you right for supporting a company that now once again finds solace in fucking over consumers now that they're profitable again. Note how they tossed out Virtual Console like a used condom after the Switch managed to do well.

>>4955816
Git gud.

>>4956034
They're not doing Virtual Console anymore?

>>4956084
Not really, they're gonna offer 20 NES games (Most of which are the really basic launch titles) if you subscribe to their online services but they've been mysteriously quiet about virtual console. Though this ain't doom talk, but it doesn't make it any less bullshit.

>>4956072
>>>/v/

>>4956091
He's right though, acquiring proficiency transcends all board barriers. Besides which /v/ doesn't git gud, they whine.

>>4956091

He isn't wrong

>>4956090
Goddammit, I actually kind of liked Virtual Console.

>>4956091
You can just admit that Plutonia is too hard for you and not be a bitch about it.

>>4955841
>Golden Souls
This is not true, enemies in Golden Souls are still Doom enemies (or customs) because Golden Souls is more of its own thing rather than just a Mario crossover.

>>4956103
i finished up plutonia and never more.

of all Team TNT wads, plutonia is the weakest

>>4956114
Interesting opinion, I found their Deathmatch wads to be their really weak game, followed by the mostly dull Eternal Doom, while Evilution and Plutonia were quite exciting adventures.

>>4955816
>Chaingun revenant
someone do this! let's create the ultimate life form!

>archvile traps
unf pic somehow related

>>4956118
>someone do this! let's create the ultimate life form!
It's been done, I think it was called the Plutonium monster or something, it was a revenant with a chaingun cannon on one shoulder, archvile flames, revival, super punches, and a revenant cannon on the other shoulder

>>4956120
>revenant cannon on the other shoulder
it shoot mini revenants?

what are some gameplay mods you can use to make vanilla more difficult, without changing the core gameplay (no reloading, weapons have the same functions)

>>4956117
plutonia is pretty much an official slaughtermap megawad.

Eternal at least had some good level design, icarus wasn't that stupid, also Evilution was good, and i love evilution's soundtrack.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXadlRsHABY

>>4956118
>someone do this!
It already exists, it's on realm667 I think. I know complex doom has it.

>>4955841
But they can get shot in Smash 4 by Bayonetta.

>>4956095
>>4956096
No amount of skill can give you clairvoyance to know when a trap will spring behind you when there's no hint whatsoever, like a suspiciously empty room with a key in the middle, that's a hint. For example, Plutonia does this. You're going on with your business when suddenly a wall springs open behind you and a chaingunner is already firing at you. The only way you can avoid damage there is if you already know the trap's there, and things should be based more on reaction than trial and error.

>>4956032
Why not?
A lot of people are doing ASMR videos and some of them are gamers.
Besides, pretty sure at this point this is basically like the rule 34.
If it exists, there is probably ASMR of it.

>>4956192
So? The game has quicksaves.

>>4956032

Youtube's ad system and algorithms reward long videos that are watched all the way through, and the more you churn out, the better. This rewards content like ASMR, let's plays and children's videos (it's why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP-MbfHFUqs has 2.1 billion views)

>>4956193
How many of those rules do we have again?
The only rules anybody seems to remember are Rules 34 and 63.

>>4956210
People obey rules 1 and 2, but only because /b/ has nothing to talk about anymore.

>>4955876
I could really use some shrubs and vines for my swamp map. Right now I'm improvising using thin strips of greenish middle textures.

>Continuous combined with pistol start mindset
...literally what did he mean by this

>>4956261
maps designed to be played continuously like your average megawad, but balanced for pistol starts too?

>>4956267
It's from a review, so he's saying it's how he played it

>>4956140
Plutonia only really gets slaughter a little in the last few maps, not counting the secret maps.
It does hit you with the occasional mean trap, but it's seldom with gargantuan amounts of monsters, IMO.

For Eternal, I would disagree with the design being very good, drawn out switchhunting and going long stretches between enemy encounters I think isn't a good combination.
It has an interesting visual style, and some pretty alright looking maps, but I don't think they actually play that well.

>>4956140
>icarus wasn't that stupid
Icarus is a little bit like Doom 2 in how level quality could vary. The Simulation levels tended to be kind of dumb, but there's some pretty cool ones too, like the demon restaurant, or that crazy shit in the secret map where the map sort of 'builds' as you progress.
The final boss map is kind of terrible, but lets be real, a lot of really good wads have bad ones, just because Icon Of Sin just is kind of a mediocre encounter as is, and it's hard to make something interesting out of it outside of vanilla/boom parameters.

>also Evilution was good, and i love evilution's soundtrack.
Evilution I think is mostly good, and I agree that the soundtrack is lovely.
Can you imagine that they actually had no real design direction or goals and just kind of threw maps together as they made them? Yet thanks to texture usage, the sky textures, and the cool-ass new music, TNT Evilution overall still manages to define its own style, it very much feels like it's deliberate despite actually kind of not being so.

Extremely atmospheric music can do a lot for your maps.

community chest looked like it was smooth sailing up until map 6. what the fuck were they thinking?

>>4956294
How well did GMOTA perform online?

>>4956298
It preformed very nicely. So much fun. I'll throw up another server with a more consistently good mapset in a sec. Just look for GMOTA + (whatever wad I choose) in the title.

>find extra backpack
>you can only get a deployable machinegun turret from a backpack, already have two
>decide to get the most out of my find and just plop down one somewhere, in case more enemies appear
>get back to this place later
>find a bunch of dead zombies, and a dead arch-vile
>no fucking clue this went down
These things are fucking darlings.

>>4956307
Alright it's up. Server name is GMOTA + Hell Revealed 2 if anyone wants to play.

>>4956261
I assume that means that he plays how the game was originally designed: continuously, but if he dies, he pistol starts the level, and continues from there.

>>4956321
how do i get in

>>4956294
>community chest
which one of them all?

What does /doom/ think of the megawads Nova 1 and 2?

>>4956321
I joined but have just been "1st in line" to play for awhile. I've never played Doom coop, why would I be in line if there's plenty of open slots? What am I waiting for?

>>4956332
Haven't played. Link?

>>4956334
if it's survival, you have to wait for the currently alive players to either die or clear the map

>>4956336
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/nova
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/nova2

They're community collabs. So while the maps do share a theme, however, style and quality varies.

>>4956138
BURL TUMD
check the OP

>>4956272
So he played it continuously, but pistol started on death, most likely.

>>4956321
almost halfway through. it's good shit bros.

Fuck THIS level. I didn't think I'd dislike a level centered around crushers as a gimmick, but I did.

>>4956409
gibs me dat weapon mod

>>4956409
Though it's partially my fault for constantly letting down my guard in that level, not so much for monsters (though some ambushes were pretty tricky), but more that I kept forgetting to look out for crushers.
The following map featuring wide swathes of blood, but it not being damaging, feels a bit freeing, in contrast to the previous one.

>>4956414
Not until I get at least the basics done for the weapons.
I have the knife, chainsaw, revolver and BFG replacement still to do, most of which at least have their graphics and sound done.

In the meantime, check out Immoral Conduct, which I based it on;
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=48036
You'll need icd-se.wad to run the mod once I release it.
For the longest time, Immoral Conduct: Special Edition was exclusive to the Edge sourceport, until this guy in the link there recreated (mostly) everything in Decorate for GZDoom.

How can I set up binding for brutal Hexen?

I have:

[Hexen.brutalhexen_controls.Bindings]
q=+Action
0=useflechette

[Hexen.Bindings]
...
e=+use
0=useflechette

0 uses flechette on normal hexen, but not on brutal

>>4956449
it must have a different name

>>4956449
is the issue that the mod doesn't use the same bindings as the main game?

>>4956457
it seems to use the same. For instance, E is bound to my +use key (I use E to open doors and interact), yet there is no binding for use at all in brutal_hexen bindings. I'll keep looking

RIBB AN DDEAR UR GUDS :::::DDDD

>>4956484
yikes

>>4956484

>>4956484

>>4956406
That was a lot of fun boys. Got kinda burned out, but the server is still up if anyone else wants to play.

>>4956484
>>4956486
ids dime to kig ass and tsuu bubble gom :-DD

>>4956494
Thanks again for hosting it.

>>4956486

>>4956484
Funko Pop version of Doom 4 when?

>>4953908
I really need help with a map i''m making rn.
Does anyone know how to get line_set_portal to work with both gzdoom and zandronum3.0. It works fine with gz but not zand

>>4956508
FunkoDoom mod for classic

>>4956527
Somebody'll make one after that Gears of War atrocity comes out

>>4956535
the what now

>>4956536
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pf4KxbknXA

>>4956545
LOOOL

>>4956512
jus found oud ids nod subborded yet. fuggg :DDDD

Using PRBoom, what complevel is considered "normal?" I assumed that complevel -1 is typical because it's using all of the port's fixes, but the doomwiki says "complevels 2 and 9 are the ones used in the overwhelming majority of cases." Which is better? How inaccurate of a version am I playing by defaulting to complevel -1?

>>4956569
complevel 2 is Doom 2 v1.666, complevel 9 is the latest version of Boom

>>4956536
You know, the thing literally nobody anywhere on earth ever asked for; a funkopop themed Gears Of War game, for mobile phones.
I never even really liked GOW very much and even I'm baffled and a little upset.

By far the most unexpected announcement of E3.

>>4956498
*bobel gom

>>4956584
I dunno, tards have been fighting each other for those pieces of crap for ages now.

The company that makes them is still fucked but the actually things sell like hotcakes to dipshits.

>tfw can't play Doom anymore because you switched from a PC to a Mac

>>4956689
bruh... look at this dude

>>4956693
oh ho
oh no no no no
https://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Downloads

>>4956242
yeah, some vines and chains too

>>4956689
why on earth (and hell) ?

>>4956689
Sure you can, there's not only the original, official Mac port, there's DosBox, Chocolate Doom, PrBoom+, and GZDoom.

Unless OSX can't run any of that shit, in which case, HAHAHAHAHA (laughing at Apple, not at you).

>>4956693
ooh HOO HOO waittillyouseethepitch-

Me swapping the sky texture with the console probably does a lot, but for going for a very basic style with stock resources, D2TWID actually has some pretty good aesthetics going for it.

trying to change the gamma in ezquake doesn't seem to work for me. it changes for a second then reverts back to 1.0

anybody else experienced this? is it an outside problem?

i just want to be able to see shit

Has the guy who made Babel posted in these threads before? I just started trying it and I held the reload key to see what it meant by giving information, and the paragraph it generated really reminded me of a post I say a few months ago worrying about being too detailed in describing a gun, with the example looking a lot like this paragraph I just saw.

>>4956848
Yes.
The mod started in here.

So the new smooth doom update states it increases gore, mainly by adding more blood droplets when shooting stuff, but i find this negatively affects my performance when the smooth doom versions before it had no problems with gore causing lag. Does anyone know what relevant lines of code I could change to make it like old smooth doom gore?

HUUH

>>4956192

Traps almost always happen when you pick up a key, valuable item or a switch. You should always be expecting shenanigans.

Playing through Pirate and is it just me or is the two eyed Cacodemon really cute

>>4956994
Did you not read his post?

Where is my Star Wars shit dude, goddamn. One guy made something very impressive looking and then fucking delete it. Am I going to have to make my own

>>4956192
Says you, I'm quick as lightning at wheeling around, strafing away, and laying down return fire, at least for simpler traps and ambushes.

Pic related took me a bit by surprise, but I still managed, even if fairly injured.
That's a more advanced ambush than just opening a door and one or two guys start attacking.

>>4956994
Sometimes I find a key, and it's conspicuously placed somewhere where there's nothing around, but it's so obviously a trap, like it's on a pedestal or at the end of a hallway.
And then I grab it, and NOTHING happens.

Anyone else almost feeling blueballed when that happens? Like, you're SUPPOSED to spring me a nasty surprise when you place a key like this!

>>4956997

Yeah I did, and he said no hint whatsoever. His example of "just chaingunners out of nowhere lol" is a hardly meaningful critique of plutonia, and by no means was there just a trap for "no reason". At the very least the player has to enter a new area, which, is a hint that some bullshit is behind the door. Especially in plutonia.

To what my post was saying, is that you should always be expecting shenanigans. Traps never *just* happen. In fact, if you need a hint that there is going to be a bunch of enemies you don't particularly enjoy to face ready to fuck you, then perhaps you should improve your reflexes and troubleshooting skills (aka GIT GUD).

Saying that "no amount of skill" can prepare you for traps indicates you need to play more doom; as traps in mappin are very consistent. Additionally, gitting gud can allow you to navigate those meany weany situations with ease.

>>4957015
>as traps in mappin are very consistent
This, I'm finding I'm actually predicting over half of all arch-vile encounters now.

Like, you kind of just get the gut feeling that, now's the time for THAT to happen.

>>4957010

Yes, all the time. It screws with my head probably much more than a traditional trap does.

However, I feel that it can be a great tool to increase the tension for an upcoming encounter.

As you say here: >>4957020 there is almost a it of a meta with traps.

Hell, if traps really were as "random with no hints" like the other anon says, I feel it could really spice things up. Whenever I see pillars, or blocks/walls in an arena, it is pretty much guaranteed to have those alien murder mutants involved.

>>4957026
There's definitely things which can hint towards an arch-vile.

Pic related had me thinking, as I approached, "This is totally where I would put an arch-vile.", and then as I stepped up, one pops out.
Have you played D2TWID? Do you remember this room, and can you picture why that felt like such a natural hunch to make here?
I'm not 100% sure I can, just that it did.

>>4957051

I have never played it, but I can see why...

Having a narrow, enclosed hallways can be a nice safety area for the pillar but also has a lot of risk evolved in case he decides to strut up and keep you in.

can't remember of other specific encounters but I recall getting annihilated due to similar situations....

What does this general think about maps designed with jumping/crouching in mind?

>they always make: hell on earth
>they never think: earth in hell

>>4957056
It's not Plutonia hard or anything, though it's certainly a bit of a step up over original Doom 2.
I had already killed everyone else in that building, and it really wasn't a dangerous encounter or anything, I suppose it just struck me as a good way to impede the player from going forward, force him to stop.

>>4957058
They can be good.
Alfonzone features lots of it, along with 3D floors and slopes being used well.

>>4957065

Definitely, I think you hit the nail on the head with the enemy. As much as I hate the archvile, I love him at the same time for how he can totally change an encounter.

What's the latest greatest megawad/large level pack I should check out?

>>4957058

They seem to not get made enough, but can really add new elements to the gameplay, at the very least in terms of exploration and environment. I figure if you are making a wad in this day, it should be included in your map.

>>4957073
Yeah. I used to hate him a lot, I dreaded him (still do, a little bit), because he just fucking scared me, but understanding encounters more, I find I'm not as intimidated by him as I used to be.

I may still reflexively go "Oh man!" to myself, but I feel I assess his behavior and my surrounding and quickly determine how to easily handle him.
I still don't have patience for Skillsaw shenanigans though, where he drops in two of them at once in a space with sparse cover/range of movement.

I actually find the Cyberdemon much more annoying, because he gladly attacks from long range, his attacks have splash damage and he takes a lot of punch, and people these days are generally much better at crafting encounters for him than iD themselves generally did.
A cyberdemon off in the distance, or uncomfortably close, that's a fucking chore to handle, if I have space to circlestrafe him, I can manage, however.

>>4957075
D64 For Doom 2 looks very interesting, if you haven't checked it out already (I plan to).

>>4957085
sweet thnx

>>4957083

100% agree, the archvile is a difficult miniboss in my mind, but can make an otherwise regular encounter a lot more challenging. Two archviles, well, it really depends on what else is being thrown at you and where. Those are pretty rare encounters though, I think the most I have ever seen was 11 in Ancient Aliens when things turned into slaughter, which turned it into an all out clusterfuck.

Yeah, the Cyberdemon is definitely the nastiest asshole in the game. He would be a lot easier to handle if he took splash damage, and you could abuse his movement around corners.

The nastiest is two cyberdemons in an enclosed space, with no bfg or equivalent.

>>4957075
REKKR

>>4957075
>>4957085

It's great.

Favourite part was the dynamic lighting and effects with the sky.

Be prepared for some very dark maps though, it'll make doom 3 look like a sunny day