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I did. Many customers, mostly adults who already had a Playstation (like me)

>>4948060
>unironically bought
>unironically
What?

Nope. Didn't even know it existed back then (American and underage at the time). Played the shit out of N64 and PSX, though.

>inb4 some saturnfag calls people who did not care about their shitty console poorfags

>>4948060
My friend. I played Nights at his house once but otherwise we just played Playstation.

>>4948060
I knew one guy. Played VF2 while at his place. Wanted one so bad after that.

My cousin had her mega drive and game gear stolen in a burgalry.

She had -

Alien trilogy
Clockwork knight
Theme park
Rayman

I used to get up early and play it when we stayed at my aunts and uncles in scotland

We no longer talk

>>4948060
My cousin had one. He showed me Primal Rage. That's the only time I ever saw a Saturn.

I knew one guy in high school who bought a Saturn, but he made me swear to keep it secret because he didn't want the other kids to make fun of him.

>>4948063
>muh adultz
I was a 10 year old prick and I was a ps/n64/ss idort.

>>4948121
no PC?

A kid who lived across the street from me had one and I got to play Daytona on it, was disappointed at how much it sucked compared to the arcade

>>4948128
Yeah but at that time I was still with my old 486, didn't upgrade to a pentium 2 until 1999.

I unironically bought a Saturn back in the day. Why would anyone ironically spend $300 on a freaking console?

>>4948163
Irony was expensive in the 90s desu

>>4948172
Irony in the 90s was real irony, not memery like it is today.

>>4948163
How do you ironically spend money?
>>4948060
My cousin had one. I went with the PS1, but I also wanted a Saturn too. To me at least it seemed every bit as interesting with good stuff, fighters in particular, which I both LOVED and sucked at, but hey.

Looking at the Saturn today, it's a nice looking box, has a great controller, and it has enough titles to totally vouch for ownership. Wish I could spare the money for one.

Fuck the Saturn, my dudes.

>>4948172
>Irony was expensive in the 90s desu


I remember buying the Sega Saturn bundle that included two controllers, Daytona, Virtua Cop and Virtua fighter 2 for like $250 (closer to 300 with taxes) and I thought it was a good value at the time.

>>4948192

Yes, several people owned a Saturn here. The only reason I had a PS was due to my Saturn dying.

>>4948204
People enjoy things that are frowned on by their peer group and instead of not being bullied they rationalize it by telling themselves they're doing it ironically. My generation used to "ironically" listen to DragonForce. It's not entirely unlike alcohol or Victorian-era hypnotism parties giving you permission to do what you want.

I skip all that and just enjoy what I like.

>>4948060

hell yea. my best friend's parents bought them a saturn back in elementary school. We used to play 2P Virtua Fighter and Virtua Fighter kids constantly tho i always wondered why kids was just a chibi clone of fighter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExaAYIKsDBI

>>4948236
0.01 U.S. Dollars have been added to your bank account, thanks for your hard work.
Sincerely,
Monster Energy ® Inc.

>>4948239
Your Saturn was drying? You were unlucky, Saturns are known for their durability, unlike PS.

>>4948242
Do you know what "irony" means?
It isn't a blanket term for "not seriously" or "jokingly".

Irony is "fireman dies in a flood" or "policeman gets arrested for impersonating a police officer"(yes that HAS happened).

>>4948252
Yeah, I forget the details back then but it stopped working and my folks got me a PS to remedy that after some months. I already have a new one as an adult though. Worst part is that my PS also died and I think that was due to a laser. Unlike the Saturn, I'm scarred from wanting to rebuy it. I simply use the PS2.

>>4948067
what does it mean?

My generation's ironic cult film (The Room) is too boring. The boomers had Rocky Horror which is legitimately entertaining. Will we get something better soon?

>>4948260
IT’S LIKE RAIIINNNNN ON YOUR WEDDING DAY

>>4948060
I’ve said this several times before on this board but the Saturn skewed toward an older demographic that were into arcade stuff and knew about importing. Younger kids didn’t understand that stuff and naturally gravitated toward the PlayStation or N64.

I remember kids wanting a Saturn when it released but it was too expensive. When the price finally went down it didn't seem to offer much compared to the N64 and PS.

I did know that one Korean kid that was spoiled and seemed to have everything. I played Saturn a few times. I remember liking Virtua Cop and something else but it didn't really hold our attention very long. I remember mostly wanting to play FF7, Crash 2 and Mega Man x4 on PS cause I only had N64.

>>4948346
I was the one who played those games for you. I remember wanting a N64 for Mario 64 but I changed my mind at the last second at the store and asked for PS and Crash 2 instead. Don't even regret it.

>>4948060
My parents bought a saturn over the others. I loved it

>>4948260
Irony is essentually the opposite of what you expect. So something like a policeman being arrested for impersonating an officer fits just fine.

Kids these days use irony as a blanket term for things like enjoying something for reasons other than intended.

Kind of like watching the original Evil Dead; you don't watch it because it's a great movie, you watch it because it's unintentionally hillarious. That's doing something ironically.
It's bad, but you like it anyway, just not as the creator invisioned.

The problem is that a lot of kids don't understand where the term comes from, so it gets misused a lot.

Also, OP wasn't asking if people ironically bought Saturns, he was asking people not to be ironic in their responses. As in, "tell the truth and don't be a smart ass". He's just a 12 year old, and can't into english.

Lastly, the Saturn's library of american games was just bad. And honestly, the best reason to own a saturn was all the games we never got here. So in a way, everyone in america enjoyed their saturn in spite of not having many of the best games. So if you streatch that a bit (a lot) there's irony there.

>>4948261
arn't PS1's dirt cheap or has that changed?

>>4948060
i bought saturn while expecting an eventual sonic 4

>>4948367
>He's just a 12 year old, and can't into english.
I am in my 30s, I speak good English, and I confirm that I wanted to say "unironically".

Now imagine some autist calling you an autist because you said "can't into English", which ironically (but also unironically) means nothing in proper English. That would be very interesting.

>>4948372
They are. Like I said, I'm scarred. I'm too paranoid of another console dying out. The PS2 I've had since 2004 is doing PS1 games just fine. If I lose retro cred, oh well. I owned it before.

I went from genesis to dreamcast, thinking the saturn was some japanese only console. All my friends had n64's but I remember once playing virtual on with the twin sticks at someone's home and really enjoying it...

>>4948060
>parents gift you a Saturn at launch because they caught it in time during the surprise launch.
>nothing to play but Panzer Dragoon and Virtua Fighter for months
>finally new titles!
>subpar platformer and a shitty movie tie in
>later finally get a Shinobi game, seems better than what it is due to the 6 month drought of new titles
>few more solid titles but suffering the pains of watching friends get better amount of good games and better ports on their PS systems
>in 96 seriously debate trading all my Saturn stuff in and use Christmas money to buy a PlayStation
>See a Saturn game on the shelf of some not Heman looking dude fighting a giant green skeleton
>hot red head Babbage’s clerk I've been crushing on starts gushing about how awesome this game is
>decide to buy it and try it out
>loved it so much I stick with the system and eventually buy other titles including GA: The Duel, The Legend of Oasis, PD Zwei, and PD Saga
>mfw playing Guardian Heroes saved me from selling the Saturn

Poor system finally died from overuse but I got a ver2 with an Action Replay for imports and I still play that fucker more than any of my other systems.

How do you ironically buy something?

>>4948119
Damn that's bad.

>>4948431
You ever see people buy and watch a bad horror film?
That’s the idea.
Yes no one in there right mind is going to blow $400 usd to talk shit how awful a system is but that might be the point of OP putting it there.

>>4948442
OP was obviously shit talking to begin with. If you're here, on this board, you're very likely trying/appreciating this console.

>>4948452
>you're very likely trying/appreciating this console
With poor emulation? Most here haven't.

>>4948313
YOU CUT THAT SHIT OUT.
NOW.

>>4948367
It bothers me. It just hits that "don't compute yo" button. To me irony is as you say.

>>4948428
There we go. These are the stories too few hear about the Saturn.

>>4948367
Evil Dead is a really well made movie relative to its budget. Sam Raimi didn’t become a major director for nothing.

>>4948428
>Guardian Heroes
might as well ask this here to you or anyone really that has play Guardian Heroes. My copy has slow downs when to much action hits the screen. Is that normal or a sign somethings up with the system or disc? I ask because most the praise I hear is it's fast with no slow down but mine has slow down.

I was in 6th grade and my friend had one for the first half of the year. He traded it in for a PSX and Twisted Metal before the year was over. Everyone else I knew still had a SNES/Genesis/NES.

>>4948314
Ps1 had plenty of arcade ports, especially Namco. And even got midway stuff

Why do saturn fanboys keep spouting this meme?

>>4948452
Regardless of how we appreciate it now, buying the Saturn back then looked like a crazy idea (with the PlayStation being available at an inferior price). It was almost like buying the 3DO. Or, in today's terms, like buying a $500 Switch that would have no Mario Odyssey and no Zelda, only Splatoon 2.

My Neighbors had it when it first came out.

The idea of a system that didn't use cartridges and the idea that it had a menu that still worked when there wasn't a game in there was new too.

So I spent a while trying to figure out how to start panzer dragoon from an empty menu.

>>4948498
It did but the Saturn was more specialized in arcadey stuff. The PlayStation library has a wider variety of other genres.

>>4948498
That doesn't contradict his statement. In the vast number of PS1 buyers, you had a minority of arcade gamers who were there for the Capcom or Namco ports, and a majority of gamers going for non-arcade games.

As the PS1 got older and this majority got even larger, arcade games almost disappeared (with the notable exception of Tekken 3) and made room for anti-arcade games such as Silent Hill, Final Fantasy VII, Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, Gran Turismo, etc. Even an arcade franchise such as Ridge Racer became something else in the end with Ridge Racer Type 4.

>>4948516
>It did but the Saturn was more specialized in arcadey stuff.
It took them a ram cart to really get there with the Satrun.

>>4948541
A lot of games that don't use the RAM cart are still better than the PS ports.
The RAM cart just blows the PS TFO.

By 1995, my Japanese had reached a usable enough level to play games, and there were more titles for Saturn that appealed to me than on Playstation, so I got one toward the end of that year.
(Although if I'd known the Saturn version of Tokimeki Memorial would end up delayed for a entire year after the PS version, I might have gone with PS after all.)
I actually had PC-FX as a candidate for a little while, expecting it to be the next PC Engine, but the games just weren't there.
The first game I bought for Saturn was Magic Knight Rayearth, along with a region lockout cartridge to make it work on my U.S. Saturn. That import store (NCSX) is still around.

>>4948314
>>4948516
>It did but the Saturn was more specialized in arcadey stuff.
That's the issue. Most people don't want to spend an extra $100+ to find out the system does only a certain genre better than others. Getting a near arcade port of a game isn't worth missing out on Resident evil 2, 3, Metal Gear Solid, Symphony of the Night (the SS port is garbage), Twisted Metal 1-4, Final Fantasy 7-9 and the remakes, Tiny Tank, Skull Monkeys, and all the other games I'm sure I missed. The fact that at least half of the good Saturn games makes it already such piece of shit and for a good long time most agree short of the few impressive titles it was hot garbage and values stayed low. But then the good old retro craze look over at this sea of rare "good" games and suddenly the Saturn is -the- hipster right up there with Dreamcast. It did pretty arcade ports but that isn't enough to justify how absurdly bad it was built, programed and marketed.

>>4948572
Totally agreed. I'm not really into most of the genres the Saturn is strong in. The PlayStation is way better overall.

>>4948067
>unironically
>Haha I'm going to spend this $399 on this system I don't want. Won't that be funny? haha

yep, my friend's brother's friend. I saw him once and my friend just told me "that guy has a Sega Saturn", and I expressed my sympathies, we both felt bad for him, had a moment of silence about this poor, deprived individual who while we had N64s and others hand Playstations this poor guy ended up with a Saturn - not even kidding.

The Saturn might not be the best console of that era, but it has the best aesthetic of all those consoles.

>>4948701
What aesthetic? It's literally a block.
The N64 is the coolest looking console of all time. I can't get over how good it looks.

>>4948730
Pretty slick, definitely the winner between PSX and SS, but under the hood though is another story.

>>4948730
It's shaped that way so you don't set stuff on it.

>>4948060
No. I knew someone who went from Mega Drive to N64 to Dreamcast, so it seemed even Sega fans could be reluctant to buy it.

>>4948572
Why the revision history? I lived through the era. People genuinely enjoyed their Saturns and Dreamcasts and were loudly upset when support of both were cut. Just because they're not as popular among the common gamer now does not mean people are being hipsters. And even for the rare amount of people looking for retro cred, it's blindingly obvious who's faking it anyway.

>>4948060
i had one. it had decent games. wtf is wrong with this board?

>>4949170
I assume you're new here. Check the archive and you'll find this is the general response for arcade things.

>>4949167
>Why the revision history?
it's not.
>I lived through the era.
same, 36 next month.
>People genuinely enjoyed their Saturns and Dreamcasts
That wasn't the point anon had, his point was most people won't buy a $400 (about $650 in today's money) that has both a limited library and worse ports. No shit some of use enjoyed the system that dosn't make it good.
>and were loudly upset when support of both were cut.
Again, no shit, I had a friend that was pissed his 3DO library became meaningless in no time flat, that dosn't make the system good.
> Just because they're not as popular among the common gamer now
It is way more popular in it's death than it was when it was alive otherwise distribution would have been better and 2nd hand values across the board would be PS levels. It is far more coveted now than even a decade ago.
>does not mean people are being hipsters
I can't read OPs mind but as someone that has been in the 2nd hand gaming market for over 15 years I can tell you the opinion on Saturn changed when it became "trendy" to be a retro gamer. Right up to 2010 you could get a complete copy of Guardian Heroes for about $50 complete, now even getting the disc for that is a stretch. It comes off as hipster because where was this demand back when no one gave a shit and you could get working Saturn systems for $30+ games? Hipster might be strong but it's clear most these collectors are not true to the love of the brand more the fact that it's "rare"
>And even for the rare amount of people looking for retro cred, it's blindingly obvious who's faking it anyway.
That's >>4948314 and >>4948516 because in that time frame you would not look at it as "knowing about importing" because that type of buyer would still likely take PS imports because while Saturn had some real nice arcade ports, there wasn't much else and the vast majority of gamers in 95~98 did not have the understanding or means to import like today.

>>4949170
Saturn used to be very celebrated here a few years ago and, like everything that gets frequently celebrated, backlash kicks in in response.
At this point there's very few things /vr/ won't shitpost. You just have to be patient and find the adequate threads that are somehow still shitposting-free. A hard task.
This isn't exclusive to /vr/ though, or 4chan for that matter. Contrarianism and backlash is a constant on the internet.
In a way, I won't condemn it, I dislike circlejerking and echo chambers as much as anyone else, but sometimes the contrarianism and cynic backlash gets as stupid as the circlejerkers themselves.

>>4950728
k

>>4949170
Sonyfaggots infested it and falseflag because mods won't allow PS2.

>>4948459
I was going to say something like this, evil dead has a lot of creative ideas and interesting shots, it just had no budget. A better example would be troll 2 or the room

>>4950728
Sounds like confirmation bais because this thread alone is nearly 50/50 with it's thoughts on it and you assuming a person having a different value on a system than you is shitposting is rather telling.
>but sometimes the contrarianism and cynic backlash gets as stupid as the circlejerkers themselves.
just like circle jerking just bring the facts where you can and accept there will be opinions different to yours.
>>4950748
or most people don't praise something that was overall bad compared to it's competitors. For everything they did right it was two steps back. I'm >>4948428 and I would never with a straight face argue it's better than what the PS1 was overall. It had good shit and I love it but it wasn't a homecoming queen.

>>4950805
Your grammar is abysmal dude.

>>4950809
I wouldn't argue otherwise. I'm on a lot of pain killers and can use only one hand atm.

>>4948060
coming off the genesis i really wanted one. for some reason i was not aware of PlayStations existence and didnt get a new console until the n64 came out.

>>4948060
my friend from Japan in middle school had one. I don’t know what games he had as they were all in Japanese and didn’t look familiar, so maybe they were region exclusive, I dunno.

>>4948207
he was right, SEGA of Japan were idiots

>>4950902
>>4948207
fuck off bernieposter

>>4948252
PS1s are unreliable? This is news to me outside of the 1001 & 5501 models, those were junk. Mine still works just fine.

>>4950904
SoJ:
>dude let’s not tell our US branch that we are coming out with the Saturn so they’ll release a 32bit add on for Genesis just months before
>dude let’s release way too much hardware and make it expensive
>dude let’s keep supporting all our old hardware simultaneously and frustrate and confuse devs and publishers
>dude let’s not release a majority of the library outside Japan so other regions won’t have anything to play
and then they wonder why Saturn flopped outside Japan

>>4948405
PS2s are the optimal way to play PS1 games.

>>4950919
>dude let’s not release a majority of the library outside Japan so other regions won’t have anything to play
SoA pushed for no 2D games

>>4948060
>unironically

Retarded?

i bought a saturn september 95. And a PSX november 95. The PSX stopped reading CD's half a year later, so i had to purchase another one. The japanese launch saturn still works perfectly fine today. 90% of the PSX games were utter shovelware. I dont understand how people till this very day favor the plebstation over the saturn. You would have to be one shallow, wretched, pathetic individual to.

>>4951075
>if you don't agree with my views you are shallow, wretched, and pathetic
>pleb station
you can at least try and put some effort into it.

>>4948236
You can't pull that shit in /vr/ of all places

>>4948060
Sorry, everyone I knew bought a Saturn ironically.
>uncle bought to keep it in the box
>one friend bought it to return
>another friend intended to steal it and blindsided everyone by performing a monetary exchange
>cousin bought one and paid 1.5x the asking price

>>4948163
easy one seeing dat pcmustardface goin schleichfahrt

>>4950905
5xxx was fine. Sony fixed the laser assembly and positioning and implemented automatic gain control.

It's actually the best hardware revisions because it has full 24-bit texture rendering combined with a decent AKG audio DAC, parallel port interface and the reliability fixes detailed above.

>>4950919
>dude let's just parrot shit

>>4951075
>all that assmad
wew lad. I have a bunch of PS that have been working fine for decades. The death rate has been higher than with my Saturns but it's never turned me into a sick twisted bitter fuck. My moon is fine so I can enjoy that huge portiion of the Saturn library that most can't. But I wouldn't deny the sheer number of great PS games. Did you spend your entire community college fund on those two consoles and and up flipping burgers the rest of your life out of spite for Sony or something? Are you aware of the advances that have been made in treating mental illness since 1995?

>>4948442
There's nothing ironic about watching bad movies knowing that they're bad.

I chose a Saturn over a PSX when I was a kid. There were only a handful of games released exclusively that were any good, but there are some major gems in the Saturn's library. Virtua Fighter 2, Nights into Dreams, Panzer Dragoon and Clockwork Knight immediately come to mind.

>>4951226
Indeed.

It's simply strongly indicative of mentally illness, that's all.

I traded my TurboExpress +$80 USD to import a Jap Saturn before they came out Stateside. Zero regrets, still have it to this day (although chipped now), still play it regularly.

>>4951440
Name of the game in the pic?

>>4948530
>Ridge Racer Type 4
The best Ridge Racer game.

>>4951445
It’s Shining Force 3, disc 1. Javan’s is a hidden character you can only get by searching behind this specific pillar. Great game if you’re into SRPG, and now that the other two discs have been translated, you can actually play the whole damn game.

I bought the revised Saturn with the better controller when it launched.

>>4951249

>>4950671
OP here. Great post.

As a Sega fan, I preferred the Saturn back then, but it was clearly dying in 1996 and dead in 1997... so the console I finally bought was a PlayStation. Investing in an expensive dead system made no sense. And why would you want to play Virtua Fighter 2 at home, just when it got so spectacularly superseded by Virtua Fighter 3 in the arcades?

>>4951762
Yeah, that's the kind of person who watches bad movies knowing full well that they're bad.

Top marks sport.

>>4948403
>>4948665

For some reason I find the idea of people "ironically" buying something way more funny than I probably should.

>>4952453

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS-07dh9-NA

My brother and I had the white Japanese one before the American one debuted.
We enjoyed it.

A kid at school didn't believe I had one already, so I recorded a VHS tape with a couple dozen opening FMVs for him.

I was only a kid but my uncle bought a Saturn at launch and I thought it was cool as fuck.

Today I unironiclly bought this Saturn ASCII stick, and I'm going to use it to play all the capcom games and maybe more!

unrelated is the ps1 which i also got today

>>4948367
>all this 'splaining
>still wrong
Something can be said to be irony when its molar mass is around 55.845 u ± 0.002.

>>4952642
Good shit.

I had a step-uncle or some such who had one, though he didn't allow us kids to play it. For like 7 years the only Saturn game i'd seen running in person outside a store demo was Spider. Wasn't allowed to have one myself because the Genesis gave me mini seizures.
Ended up getting one in 04 and loving it, now I have a modded one and love it to death. Used to be underrated, but i'd say it's now appropriately rated.

>>4948498
The Arcade ports performed better on the Saturn thanks to the Ram expansion cart.

>>4952336
Top kek kid. If only we had an entire generation of fools who could spout wisdom about something they've never even seen.

>>4948060
I did. Shit was fine after the second year if you lived within walking distance to an import shop.

>4953096
[You]

>>4948060
Yes, me.

I didn't buy into that generation as I was losing interest in videogames and getting older. I won an n64 and played it a bit, obviously we all did the after pub goldeneye and I also played a few games on friends' psx.

And then I saw a saturn for sale in a second hand shop for 20 quid with games and the other games were 2 to 5 quid each.

I played the shit out of it. it's worth its weight just for sega rally and panzer dragoon.

>I also bought a dreamcast just becuause of the boot disc

>>4948236
Literally /VR/ irl

Me, I bought it for guardian heroes and sonic extreme...

Soooo, who else got their Phoebe's preordered tonight?

>my face if I had bought a Saturn in 1997 to play Fighting Vipers instead of a PlayStation, just to miss all the god-tier PS releases from 1997 to 2000

My teenage years would have been sad desu

>>4954161
Forgot face

>>4948060
Everyone I knew had a Saturn, including myself. Most gaming nerds gravitated towards Saturn. The only people I knew who had Playstation only were casuals who weren't that into video games.

>>4954180
And what games were you playing in 1998?

>>4954201
Honestly? Import Saturn games and retro games. I had a Playstation and an N64, but I hated most of the games I played on those consoles. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night made the PS1 worth it, though. N64 was just a pile of vomit and I sold that shit right after Ocarina of Time came out.

>>4952564
The white saturn didn't come out until years after the American o e

>>4953421
u mad?

>>4948060
no
I had a Genesis, skipped Saturn, got Dreamcast.

>>4948060
I did. What's the problem, Sonyboy?

>>4952642
I got one in box, then i bought a custom made one with better switches. love em both.

any list out there of recommended exclusives or better ports?

I had a friend who owned a Saturn. I remember playing Astal and Panzer Dragoon. I thought both games sucked.

Problem with the Saturn was that it is now a great platform to play classic arcade games and the like, but at the time it had pretty much no killer apps to sell the thing.

As a note, I tried Panzer Dragoon again earlier this year and I still hate it. Terrible graphics and boring gameplay.

>>4956369
the second one is much better

>>4948060
I bought a Saturn out of curiosity in 2000 and quickly grew to love it, even more than the Playstation.

>>4956369
i feel like panzer dragoon orta is what the original developers intended for the game to look. im not sure if its any good though

>>4948367
It's misused on purpose to trigger fags like you, only niggers don't know things this basic

>>4956465
>in 2000
Didn't the games feel outdated compared to your Dreamcast?

>>4957996
>In 2018
Doesn't everything we discuss on this board feel outdated compared to PS4?

>>4958013
Saturn didn't have retro appeal in 2000, as only the previous generation is "outdated" (especially when the star game of the console is Virtua Fighter 2, and there's the much more impressive Virtua Fighter 3 who got released 4 years ago already).

Also I stopped playing vidya in 2000 :^)

>>4958201
What kind of nonsense will people be doing to their PS3s and Xbox360s decades from now?