/vr/ - Retro Games

1st for Гepoи.

Also, I hope HotAnon will join this thread also because I'd like to hear whether they intend to add more decorations (trees, flowers, hills, foliage, lakes etc) to their Highlands terrain. Don't get me wrong, Highland terrain has really beautiful flowers and I LOVE the inclusion of waterfalls (if only every terrain had waterfalls), but I'd also love to see the a variation of tree decorations that are partially covered with snow (just like the mountains are) and there are no 2x2 foliage decorations to speak of (in the vein of Grass/Rough/Desert Hills or Swamp Foliage).

2nd for the comfy atmosphere of Conflux.

And 3rd for Russian HoMM memes.

2nd for hota is not retro

just use deep reinforcement learning and turbocharge random map generation ggez

One thing I've noticed, especially for Homm 3, is a weird (to me anyway) tendency to play the game to build some uber-hero, uber-army, or some other cool setup as opposed to actually winning the game.

>Once upon a time, playing with some buddies, friendly game, chatting as much as we're actually playing
>Get fortress, and while Tazar isn't my starter (we all did random for both town and hero), he was a lucky pick in the tavern on day 1, so he became my main
>Creeping along, fighting neutral stacks, and leveling up.
>Get air magic, and along the way get armorer up to expert, and then beeline dive to get Air up to expert level as well.
>By level 4, Tazar has Expert Armorer and Expert Air
>Buddy tells me that I'm dumb, because I can't control his next level up, and indeed, I got the choice between Navigation on a map with no water and scouting.
>Ha ha you have a wasted skill slot, you may as well give up now!
>Except, of course, I have expert Haste by the middle of week one.
>Blow through zillions of neutral stacks, gobble up lots of resources, and by week three, I'm crushingly stronger than Kevin, and end the match on month 1 week 4 day 2 with a complete obliteration of his main army inside his own castle without even the resource of things like teleport or having Ballistics; but my army had grown bigger enough and I had 5 levels on his hero that I just blew him down anyway.

Advantages now often snowball into even bigger advantages later, and I'm perfectly willing to accept the potential of a hero skill weakness if it means I get something great right this moment. And yet, at least anecdotally, I seem like I'm in the minority here. Has anyone else ever experienced something like this?

>>4949474
I'm happy I never had Conflux as a kid.

>>4949505
Check out King's Bounty, it requires to build an uber-hero with uber-army to win the game.

>>4949474
>2nd for the comfy atmosphere of Conflux.
I wish it was straight up Sorceress' town. I like it a lot more than LotR elves they had going in Ashan or even weirdly weeb Rampart. I guess when they were making H3 they figured fairies and phoenixes were just not grimdark enough.

>>4949465
There's no plans for adding more decoration to Highlands. I did grassy hills, but we ultimately rejected them so Highlands won't look like a grass terrain too much.

>>4950004
well It's as close to sorceress town as it may be in H3. Plus, in hota you have appropriate terrain and even Red tower straight from H2's townscreen, but as map object.

ALSO. One of the first things I made for Hota was cleaning Conflux screen. In original there are many graphical bugs, broken persective, black pixels around buildings and such.

Ofc, Since then other artists are keep working on it up to this very moment.

>>4950042
>There's no plans for adding more decoration to Highlands
Oh well, at least I know I can play around with Highlands decorations without fear that you'll add some new stuff and make me revisit my concepts.
>I did grassy hills, but we ultimately rejected them so Highlands won't look like a grass terrain too much
May I ask why? Considering that the rest looked so pretty I doubt Highland Hill decorations deserved to be axed.

I am about to get homm4 from gog because I got bored and am feeling nostalgic.
Convince me otherwise (already got 2,3 and 5 if anyone recommended them)

>those maps where campaign heroes aren't disabled

>>4950336
>those SoD maps that for some reason have Conflux heroes disabled

>>4950262
there's no reason to give money to Ubisoft after what they did to HOMM and M&M

I've been playing World of Xeen, been basically not touching Darkside at all except for the occasional castleview trip and been saving it for after I finished clouds. Done that and honestly I just feel a bit burnt out now, enemies are either way too easy or way too hard, and I just can't find the same motivation to explore. What should I do?

Also I didn't realize that raise dead reduces Constitution, and now my Sorceror only has 4 Con. Is there a good way to grind it back up, or am I just stuck with a sorceror that gets murdered immediately every battle?

Any way to play heroes 3 on my android?
I have hexagear and i could do that with my previous phone, but i have lost my HOMM3 folder.
Can i download the one in the pastebin and simply slap the folder inside? Or is it a GoG installation or other bullshit that doesn't allow me a simple copy-paste?

>>4951310
Just copy paste it. I have the one from pastebin installed on my laptop and I copied it over to my phone and it's working.

>>4950948
all Might and Magic games are really fucking fun but they get boring after a while

>>4951321
I just did that, and everything works except music, which doesn't play. Sound effects and fanfares work, but the music in MP3 folder doesn't, and i double checked, the folder is there with all the other files. Any tips?

>>4951429
Bait the counterattack with a stack of a single shitter.

>>4951429
I think you just need to enable it in the game's settings or maybe in the emulator settings, not sure right now what I did with it. But it's intentional, see the description at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eltechs.es

God I hate how those god damn birds dying on every autobattle.

>>4951646
>Using autobattle
What?

What is the general sentiment towards chronicles? Played a bit of the barbarian campaign long time ago, seemed hard

>>4951464
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eltechs.es
I feel dumb now, thank you.
Unrelated, but is there a way to not make all the mp3 files of Heroes show up in my PlayMusic google app? I usually put random songs while i'm walking, and having all of a sudden 1/3rd of heroes mp2s show up would be at first great, but then terrible.

>>4951660
>Not using autobattle
What?

>>4951674
I like winning my battles with a minimum of losses. Don't know about you.

>>4951698
It's HD mod, you can either take the auto result or play the battle on your own. It saves time if you're stompin'.

>>4951698
Me too. Hence complain.

>>4951671
I am not sure, you could try creating a blank file called just ".nomedia" (no extension) and putting it in the folder with the music. Or copying it there from somewhere else. That should probably stop that from appearing, at least for some apps.

>>4951429
Drop Hota with HD to your android, I recall there was a music bugfix in one or both of those.

>>4951423
Should I just give up and move on to 6? 6 and on are the only ones anyone talks about anyways

>>4950262
The Vanilla HoMM4 campaigns are worth a shot but the lack of upgraded units is frustrating and combat skill is stupidly OP in campaigns (use the download from the pastebin because fuck Ubisoft). The expansions are crap though.

>>4950948
There is a fountain in the Eastern Tower that raises any stat back to 9, but honestly the best thing to do would be to head to the Temple of Bark. There are plenty of stat potions throughout, 4 barrels of +10 all stats +10 magical aging, and in the 4th level there is a fountain that is +20 all stats permanent. There are also a bunch of barrels of Green Liquid (+5 endurance permanent) in the Castleview Sewer. Endurance is actually one of the easier stats to get more of.

>>4952210
If you aren't enjoying it you can skip to 6-8 and even come back later if you want. The end of World of Xeen ends the first part of the franchise and has nothing to do with the later games outside of some references, particularly in 7.

Clouds on the other hand is basically less than half a game and things don't really pick up until Darkside. The level 20 cap in Clouds keeps you from the type of large tough battles you may be looking for. If you are getting destroyed, chances are you shouldn't be there and probably need to upgrade your weapons. The only time that fights should really start being challenging for your level are once you get to the Dungeon of Lost Souls and later. You also might run into some issues with Giants if your weapons are crap (and use Hypnotize for those obnoxious Armadillos).

>>4952586
>>4952573
I've stuck through and don't regret it, my enthusiasm has picked back up. I'm pretty sure I've thoroughly picked through the towers, as well as done a lot of the sidequests. Last town I finished was necropolis, guess I gotta find this dungeon of death now. Characters are about level 45, though I'm really low on gold so they could be higher.

>>4953051
Forgot to say I explored the dungeon of lost souls, is that last level the soul maze? Has the same message as MM1. If so that's a rad reference

Also saw the message in escape.pod 2, gotta say seeing all this shit makes going through all the games much better

>>4953051
>>4953062
The Dungeon of Lost Souls is the one with the Minotaurs and yes the message is there. I feel they punish you by capping your level at 50 before sending you here and that's the only reason it can be hard.

The Dungeon of Death is on Cloudside which he tells you. Level 1 is idiotic (giant crossword puzzle with no enemies) but after that it's one of the hardest places in the game. If you don't have problems with the enemies there you shouldn't have any issues (unless you decide to go bother the Megadragon) until you finish Darkside and start the Unification questline.

>Monthly succ wars check

I like diplomacy.

>>4953785
>troops of 4 different factions
>no morale raising artifacts or skills
>fire magic

>>4954049
Whom quote?

>>4953785
>Have Diplomancy
>Month of ranged unit

>>4953785
Where the hell did you find 60 hydras by week 3?

>>4954469
Just found a stack and they joined.

>that mission where you have to capture every creature dwelling on L map.

>>4955209
You're talking about the "March of the Undead". For some reason, I really liked the whole "Playing with Fire" campaign even though that mission and the final mission took ages to finish.

>>4955240
>fortress+fire magic vs. fucking necropolis
And then on top of being the worst match-up imaginable they also give you those bullshit objectives. It's like they were going for the most meat-grindy campaign they could manage.

>>4955240
>Bloodlust is +6
>SLAYER is +8
>All damage spells are Power x 10 except for Armageddon
>Frenzy is really good
>Rest of the school is debuffs that undead is immune to

>>4955426
>>4955597
>Not just making necro-army backup hero

>>4955240
>>4955426
The worst part is no town portal.
>next map is XL with 4 AI
>open most of the map in the hut
>have to wait years for AI to take turns
>still no fucking town portal

>>4955770
>still no fucking town portal
I guess I was pretty lucky to find Tome of Earth Magic (don't ask me how, the last time I played the campaign was almost three years ago).
I basically buttfucked Lord Haart directly out of the central island (and stole his capital) by the first day of third week and cleaned everything by the first day of the second month except the sole Necro city in the underground (that my main hero could conquer that same day).

>>4955426
>>fortress+fire magic vs. fucking necropolis
Call me a masochist but I kinda liked that, at least from a narrative standpoint. As for the gameplay aspect of it, a good (or lucky) pick of the rest of your secondary skills should easily compensate for the main hero's shortcomings.

>>4955426
>It's like they were going for the most meat-grindy campaign they could manage.
No, that's still Unholy Alliance with its 50 variations of "Build up your forces then conquer some Necro land, wade through Cover of Darkness, capture towns, win". I replayed it this summer and it almost drove me crazy.

>>4955770
You fucked up anon. There is a quest to kill a legion of Water Elementals. If you kill them you get the Town Portal spell as a reward.

>>4956086
>There is a quest to kill a legion of Water Elementals
Do you remember where they are located?

>>4956143
>There is a quest to kill a legion of Water Elementals
Do you remember where they are located?

>read this thread
>apparently Inferno aren't demons but aliens
>boot up Dark Messiah of Might of Magic
>they're litteral demons
... huh?

>>4957551
Different universe, jewbisoft rebooted the series and the demons are actual demons now. Everything after M&M 9 and HoM&M 4 is the jewbisoft universe, which is purely fantasy.

Also fuck you captcha for making go through 5 different pictures again even though I picked all the correct shit in each of them.

>>4957561
Oh, okay. Then who was the red armored guy in HoMM... 4? 5? The one where heroes can attack directly but are only defeated when they're out of troops?

>>4957578
Demon sovereign? That's 5.

>>4957630
Yeah, probably. Who WAS that guy? I remember giving up at the mission where he tries to pass through elf territory.

>>4957637
Wait no, you must mean Raelag/Agrael. Demon sovereign was the big red armored demon guy with the clearly overcompesanting sword that was Agrael's boss.

>>4957551
>Be French
>Be Ubisoft
>Some insane company goes bankrupt over terrible 3D decisions and team sizes for software development
>EA is bidding for them
>Still outbid them
>Get license to the biggest RTS and fantasy series of the decade
>Ignore lore and setting and just do a extremely shitty IP rip of Warhammer instead
>Barely release new games
>Release Heroes 5, 5 II and 5 III so far

Meanwhile in fuckung Russia
>Be Russian
>Be barely recovered economy
>Be local corrupt super mogul company 1C Company
>Buy out the IP for Kings Bounty
>Actually develop and sell games

>>4957749
but 5 is also made by Russians
And between KB, KB2 and all it's expansions it's still the same game, not much different from what was going on with Homm 5-7, except it didn't get dumbed down, I guess.

>>4957773
You end up in a situation where you are comparing a Russian company that buys a small IP
With a global conglomerate that buys out what was the biggest IP's.
And then you realize HOMM or M&M is non existing in terms of life support, and by extension sales or earning money. Simply because Ubisoft can't be bothered to earn money.

How hard is the game for someone jumping into it without reading any strategy guides and such?

>>4957953
Which game are you talking about?

>>4958017
H3.

>>4958031
I mean, you'll almost certainly play suboptimally, the game has a few noobie traps that are very easy to fall into. But even doing so, you can win on the easier scenarios and build your skill up through practice. But there's very little stopping you from just picking up the game and playing it. If you like though, I can offer a few ultra-basic tips to help you get started.

>>4957749
Ubi is barely still French at this point.

>>4958031
The game doesn't really explain tactical mechanics and there's a lot of small hidden things. You don't really need the guide, but there's a lot to explore if you want to be decent.
You can dive into standard campaign with no experience, but expansions are gonna be brutal.

>>4958037
>I can offer a few ultra-basic tips to help you get started.
Some "don't be a literal retard" things would help. I was a literal child when I was playing the game, so I'm as good as not having it played at all.

>>4958093
At least to me, coming in from other strategy games, the first and foremost thing to keep in mind is that Homm has weird 'stacking' limits. You can only fight with one hero at a time. That hero can only have at most 7 different creatures in his army. Those creatures, however, can be of unlimited amounts. It takes up no more room in the army to have 1 titan as it does to have 1000 titans.

So especially if you only have 1 town, you have a real incentive to concentrate all or at least almost all of your forces into one hero who becomes your main guy and has the bulk of your power. If you have 5 heroes on a medium size map, under no circumstances give each of them 1/5th of your army and have them each pursuing different objectives every which way. Focus and smash things with overwhelming force, get your XP concentrated, so at the end you have a super-army.

Corollary #1. The movement points of your main hero are one of your most important strategic assets and need to be rationed accordingly. Don't have him wandering off scouting, don't have him wasting time. Advance in as shortest a path as you can get him from fight to fight and only deviate for stat boosts or witch huts that you know have useful skills. Functions like scouting, picking up resources once you've cleared the monsters guarding them, and ferrying reinforcements should be delegatd to your other heroes who usually should only have 1 fast/cheap unit each.

Corollary #2. That major army is your biggest single investment of resources, not your cities. It's okay to lose cities. It's not okay to lose your main army. And if you have a choice between smashing an opponent's main army and taking his capital, 9/10ths of the time, crushing the army is the way to go.

1/2

>>4958093

Building prioritization early should be on your dwellings. Even if you don't recruit from them right away, just having them there means your manpower starts to accumulate. Getting the gold buildings is a much lower priority most of the time, and in the first few weeks your main source of income should be looting as you explore the map.

Which itself is very important. The faster you creep along, the more resources you'll absorb, the more XP you'll get and the faster you can build up and strike your enemies. Always attack neutral stacks the second you think you can do so with minimal (ideally zero) losses, even if they aren't guarding something you want. But at the same time, you should prioritize, remember the movement limitations of your main hero. Don't grab resources willy-nilly. Figure out what you need to get your dwellings up quickly, and be sure to grab those first.

If you can do that, by the time you run into main heroes of the other players, you should be the one with the biggest army and the best hero, at which point winning the Big Battle is much more straightforward.

Try to get a school, any school, up to expert ASAP. My personal ranking would be Earth>Air>Water>Fire, but there is some disagreement on that score. But in any case, even if your main hero only has 1 power and 1 knowledge, expert level in a school means that you can cast spells on an entire army instead of one dude at a time. Haste and slow are to me especially important because they're the most suited to taking down the neutral stacks without losses and thus enabling the faster creep which I attach super-high importance to. Direct damage spells are rarely worth it, buffing your forces and cursing the enemy are almost always far more efficient uses of your 1 spell a round limit.

Those are the ultra-ultra basics, the way I see it.

>>4958151
>>4958154
Thanks anon.

>>4957045
The seer's hut is somewhere around the northeast tip of the southern lake and the elementals are just south of the hut. It has been a couple years since I last played the campaign, so I don't remember anything more detailed other than it vaguely being near a gold mine.

>>4944798
Thanks for trying out my map anon I really appreciate it. Looking back at it now I can definitely see the imperfections (especially concerning placement of monsters as you and someone else pointed out) but I'm glad you had decent fun with it.

>>4957045
>>4958347
Pic related. Go get em

>>4959173
>Pic related
Ah, I remember now! That doesn't explain where I found the Tome of Earth Magic in the next map, though (>>4956060). Was the Tome some sort of a starting bonus or a Quest Reward?

>Final level of the Crag Hack campaign in Shadows of Death
>Start off with no troops, no resources, and a start castle that can't build a tavern aginst through 3 fullly built necropoli
>no biggie though, there's a neutral town with a tavern, that can't ever build a fort or advanced units to the south
>problem though: all of their town are blocked off by black border gates
>and where the heck is the black tent.jpg
>map is a giant maze, and it's covered in shrouds of darkess
>so keep losing track and going around circles
>eventually end a day in range of an boss stack with with four times as many troops
>no worries, though, I haz tactics
>lolnope.mov
>she has 30 power, 200 mana, and just spams the hell out of armageddon
>rip
Never been so tempted to use a reveal map cheat code.

>>4960306
Does it get worse than Foolhardy Waywardness? because after few tries I'm so demotivated I don't even want to play anymore.

>>4960394
Not him, and it's been a while since I last replayed any of the campaigns, but yeah, Hack and Slash was way worse than Foolhardy Waywardness in terms of wandering around wondering where you're supposed to go and worrying about a giant army to the face.

I wish I could have the character development of mm7 with the world of mm6

>>4960394
Probably not. It was a bit of a cakewalk code(even though I restarted after). The price of getting CHEATER! was well worth my sanity.

>>4961176
After I used that code*

>>4960306
>and where the heck is the black tent.jpg
That's why the last scenario was so challenging in the first place - your towns are up for grabs while theirs are safe from being taken over.

>>4961085
Have you tried the Might and Magic merge mod? It is actually fairly well done and combines 6-8. The only real complaint is that you are locked into the MM7 light or dark but not both unless you start in Jadame.

>>4949529
>I'm happy I never had Conflux as a kid
Wait, why? Because it's OP?

>>4964816
Too lewd.

>>4964886
Which version is the lewdest?

>>4964920
Can't decide between HoMM1, 3 or 4. I'd say 3 is the lewdest because you get to see how nice and round their asses are. 4 completely messed the skin colour and the hair.
They look cool in Seven though. Also they're smallers in 4.

>>4964924
3 and 5, rest are shit

>>4964952
5 is lewd, but covers a bit too much to be sexy.
I like 4, but it's better to not look at it too much, because it honestly look bad if you see it from close. From a distance, though, they're lewd a plenty, and they're also smaller than the other sprites.

Me and some friend have gotten into playing HoMM3 again, but the default maps are getting boring. Any recommendations for good map packs or any specific 3-4 player FFA maps you've enjoyed?

>>4965010
Have you tried the random map generator? Sure, its maps are always somewhat similar, but at least they're never the same.

>>4965010
It's for 6 Players, but "Along the River" is great

http://www.maps4heroes.com/forum/opinions.php?map_id=1583&game=3

Downloaded it the other day and had a blast. Very balanced. Pleasant to look at. Tons of treasures, artifacts and stats boosters, so endgame battles get pretty wild.

>>4953062
Finally finished it, and I have real mixed feelings. Like the game was a lot of fun and all, but in general the end game was very underwhelming. Uniting the worlds was more really annoying than fun, and the final cutscene was... underwhelming. I guess I'm glad that MOST of the mysteries of the past game was explained (most of it through a straight up text dump in the escape pod) but I don't know.... I guess I expected more?

Whatever, the game was still fun, and nobody really talks about any pre 6 games anyways, so clearly the new ones are much better.

>>4964920
My teenager self had a crush on the M&M 3 sprite. Wouldn't mind her cursing me

So I finished MM1-8 (deciding to skip 9 after SSeth's review), and figured its time to hop into the Heroes series, starting with 1. My question was: does the spinoff have ANY relation to the main series? Any familiar faces?

>>4964920
Imagine 1986 sucking you off with that big wide mouth of hers

>>4965741
Imagine 1990 reporting you to the FBI

>>4965729
1 is it's own thing. 2 connects with MM6 as you will play either Roland or Archibald Ironfist's campaigns (The expansions aren't connected). 3 connects with MM7 quite a bit from the Kreegan invasion into Antagarich to the expansion to the expansion which uses Catherine and Roland and references judges Fairwhether and Sleen, but after the first expansion campaign the connection is basically over. Basically they will help fill in some of the gaps between the games.

>>4965729
>Any familiar faces?
Remember Tomb of Ethric the Mad from MM6? That same Ethric cameos in one mission in Heroes 3: Shadow of Death.

>>4965729
>deciding to skip 9 after SSeth's review
Don't listen to that asshole, 9 is great

>>4966073
>Sseth said it's bad so I'm gonna be contrarian
Grow up. 9 is a terrible game.

>>4966073
The general view is that it had the skeleton of a good game, but that's all. Aside from an undeveloped lore and setting, franchise defining spells being removed, and >Lithtech, it contains the most poorly designed and obnoxious "dungeon" in the whole series (Dungeon of Secrets). It just doesn't hold up to scrutiny. It's better than the absolute trash it tends to be treated as, but it just isn't a good game by any stretch of the imagination.

I don't know, but I don't find much fanart of Heroes of Might & Magic. But here's at least a drawing of Naga Queen.

>>4967169
>I don't know, but I don't find much fanart of Heroes of Might & Magic
Russians can't draw.

>>4967218
I think you'll find Russians can't create in general.
t. Russian

>>4967242

They can if they have Western material to copy from first.

>>4960306
I'm replaying Shadow of Death and I can't even get that far - I'm fucking stuck on Black Sheep.
> beat Black Sheep like 2-3 years ago through sheer luck
> restarting scenario constantly now because after 5-6 weeks I find myself fucked by an enemy hero who has simply an army that is too large
> start with a town that has no tavern
> can barely scrape enough troops together to lose them all while taking sawmill and ore pit from big stack of archers and marksmen
> town to the west cant even build a fort, one way monolith makes it easy for the enemy to take it from you
> light blue border tent guarded by fucking faerie dragons
> even when I sneak by the border guard after the enemy has opened it, Edric just teleports in with 150 pikemen, archers, griffons, 15 cavaliers, 50 crusaders and whatnot
> What do I have at that time? 8 cyclops kings, 7 Behemoths, 12 Thunderbirds, some wolf raiders and hobgoblins, maybe like 40 orc captains and 40 Ogre Magi
> save is now fucked because I'm in range of Edric and developers thought it a good idea that losing with your main hero = game over, making any time you end a turn a game over in unknown territoty/being next to teleporters.

I hate it when a campaign solely rests on restarting the scenario over and over until you just luck through it. I even followed a guide by some slav on strategywiki to the letter and in week 5 Edric just gates in and fucks my shit up. What do?

>>4967715
>What do?
Restart the scenario until you have decent units and try to follow the instructions written in this guide (it's what I used when playing on Impossible):
>https://www.celestialheavens.com/viewpage.php?id=212
Alternatively, I can post my save files though that means you'd risk redoing the campaigns that you've completed or skipping the ones I've finished before.

>>4967242
>What is the AK-47
>What is the Matrishka doll

>>4967794
>What is the AK-47
They had to steal a literal german gunsmith to produce schematics.
Funny how Kalashnikov didn't "invent" for shit afterwards.
>What is the Matrishka doll
Is a japanese doll rip-off.

>>4965719
My teenager self had a crush on the M&M4 sprite.

>>4967242
Isn't that the true tragedy of Russia?
Russia can improve, but generally not create.
End result is that as long as Soviet Union was glorious Russian Motherland, they needed everyone else to start inventing, and then use massive US manpower to actually improve

I'm playing through MM6 right now and having some trouble. Right now I'm at castle ironfist, the enemies are just really kicking my ass. I've tried the shadow guild, dragoons place and the baa temple, but the enemies are just too tough for me. Am I fucking up somehow? I'm about level 5, my knight is focusing on swords and shields, my archer is bow + shielding it up, cleric is focusing on body and mace while the sorceror is going for air and fire.

What am I doing wrong?

>>4969407
Read the pastebin. Everyone should be using bows. They will carry you through the first 10-15 levels until you get master water and can move around freely.

>>4970054
I'm trying to use bows while kiting around dudes, but they usually have so much health they mob n kill me before I can get away

>>4969407
>knight archer cleric sorcerer

literally the worst team
this isn't a typical RPG where you need a variety of classes

the best teams are
4 knights
3 knights 1 cleric
3 sorcerers 1 cleric or druid(I preffer this one because it's the easiest one you will start the game with all magic skills and it's faster because you will have magic skills at master very fast one sorcerer will master one skill water sor fire sor air sor)

mm7>world of xeen>mm6

>>4970852
>4 knights
>best party
literally how
his team is way better than what you're proposing, aside from the SSSC/DSSC
I'd replace Knight with Paladin but otherwise this is fine

>>4969407
the thing is in might and magic that "archer" is a misleading class name, the archer is a SPELLSWORD so you need to make him a good melee fighter, not some guy who only uses bows

>>4971218
the promotion of archer is "warrior mage" so that should give you an idea

>>4970852
4 knights is an absolutely terrible team. There is no reason at all to ever use a Knight over a Paladin. The standard comps for beginners are PCSS and PACS.

>>4970742
You run faster if you are facing the direction you run. Abuse turn based combat. One of the keys is to only fight a few at a time. If you charge into a group you can get destroyed. The nice thing about thugs and rogues is they don't have a ranged attack and you do. The Temple of Baa in Ironfist is a step up in difficulty though.

Thanks for the help so far. I've cleared out the dungeons of ironfist, and got a couple of levels. Problem is I don't.know what to do now. Tried to do the quest with the monks and the gem, but the master monks were way too tough for me. I've made my way to freehaven, the surrounding enemies are way too tough but right now I'm grinding it out in the sewers. Where exactly should I go after ironfist?

>>4967242
I'm speechless on this stupid statement...

>>4967787
Thanks for the help. Now I'm stuck on A Cage in the Hand.

> do early rush, get fucked by superior spells because my Crag didnt get Intelligence or any significant damage spells
> hang back for 2-3 weeks to stack a decent size army, get crushed by fuckhuge army of undead

Im trying the guide on Celestial Heavens for the scenario, but boy am I surprised at my past self for blasting through these scenarios with randomly picked skills a few years back.

Dark or Light in might and magic 7

>>4973119
Neither. 4 monks.

>>4972482
If you haven't been to Mist then you can head there. Outside there is quite a bit of loot on the teleporter islands. The enemies in the dungeon are pretty hard, but most of them don't have spells and there are some nice long hallways to kite with. Plus you pick up the super easy Sorcerer promotion quest.

If you have done that then your next step is probably to head to Free Haven for equipment and spell upgrades. Town Portal and Fly are your top priorities, but Starburst and Power Cure will help you a lot if you have the spell points for them.

There are a few fetch quests you can take care of now such as the Knight and Priest first promotions and capturing the Prince of Thieves is pretty easy. You are basically building toward Water Magic level 12 at which point you will be able to Town Portal to any city and set Lloyd's Beacons at the places you can't portal to.

>>4973217
Lloyd's beacon is super useful if you set it up in front of some cheap temple and then use one slot for the dungeon you're in, so you can move between those two when you need the heal.

>>4973217
Also if you don't have the gold for spells you can hire a Merchant/Duper which are in houses west of the mind guild. The expert merchant trainer is in the city as well.

If you are completely broke you can head to the sewers. There are some sewer grates that will give you gold/trap/nothing/key. The key will end the RNG and allow you entry into a little room in the top center with what is usually some really good stuff for your level (but the grates have limited charges so try to get the key at some point).

>>4973119
Both obviously. Get to the point before you choose the judge and save a backup game. Reload the backup after you finish one path.

>>4971195
It's harder because of no magic but a team like this works like a harvester

>>4972970
>A Cage in the Hand
I can't remember having a lot of problems with this map, but then again, last time I played it was 3 years ago.
What difficulty are you playing on?

Cove trailer is out bros

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW7JOQFI-0U

>>4975379
Based and redpilled.

I don't know how to spend skill points

Should I invest in light or dark magic or put all points in body magic for my cleric?

Is it better to invest in light/dark magic or elemental magic for sorcerers?
I have 3 Sorcerers Two have master Fire Magic(12 skill points) One has master water magic(12 skill points)

finished world of xeen, then played might and magic 7 dark side and finished it, now i feel like playing might and magic 3 after the 7 ending and then i'll play 6 again
kinda playing these series in the completely wrong order

>>4975379
>playing OC DONUT STEEL before some of much ebtter originals
Poland was a fucking mistake.

>>4976061
>imagine being this autistic
you suck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFtF1oWBXuA

>>4976074
Fuck off kurwa

Are there any good Giant maps for HotA yet? And I mean *good*, not a 64x64 island in the center of an empty ocean.

>Midway through the expansion's development, New World Computing decided to scrap the Forge faction and removed all references to its existence from the game's storyline, instead building upon Might and Magic VII's "good" ending. To replace the Forge, they invented an elemental-based faction Conflux.[9] Due to the scrapping of the Forge halfway through the project, the developers and design artists suffered from a lack of time when completing the Conflux faction, and were forced to implement elemental creatures from the base game. This is evident if one takes a good look at the dwellings of the original four elementals within the Conflux town: they all use the same graphics as on the world map.
all conflux fags should rot in hell

>>4975956
Master is enough for your Cleric. Basically once you get to this point get 1 person up in Light to about 10-15, then transition to dark. For everyone else boost up nothing but Dark until near the very end with Blasters (aside from the obvious miscellaneous skills to master). Shrapmetal spam with Lloyd's Beacon portaling to heal will destroy almost anything in the game, especially once you get master level 10 or so and it scales better than any other spell in the game. At some point you can decide to add more into body if you feel you need it, but you probably don't have enough hp to justify it with a CSSS team.

Air is mildly useful, but since master only takes rank 4 you are better off with even more dark magic.

>>4975959
You really don't miss too much going out of order other than a couple cutscenes won't make as much sense.

>>4960306
Just finished it after 4 hours of savescumming. Was seriously about to use a cheats, then deiced to do last try, autobattled black fog dude fight because I couldn't give a fuck anymore, which left me with nothing but archangels, which increased my next turn speed which made running to the shield possible.
I'm still mad though.

>>4976259
Blame 3DO for forcing the company to churn out expansions whether they were good or not.

>>4967715
It's hard to take their god stacks on head on, but easy to wear them down by fighting ancient Roman style. Outmaneuver them them,take towns behind their backs, force them to commit to sieges they can't win without heavy losses. Orc and ogre stacks will only slow you down for this. Remember every time you trade towns you'll come out ahead since the one to the west is pretty much worthless and impossible to hold.

>>4977160
>easy to wear them down by fighting ancient Roman style. Outmaneuver them them,take towns behind their backs
Forgive me for going a bit off topic but weren't Romans more famous for their ability to create encampments and fortify in one night then they were for their forced marches?
That being said, it's pretty neat how in Heroes VI, the Haven faction had a bit of Roman influence with the inclusion of Praetorians and Vestals.

>>4978106
I want to fuck Blazing Glory.

>>4978106
>Forgive me for going a bit off topic but weren't Romans more famous for their ability to create encampments and fortify in one night then they were for their forced marches?
Of course. You can't do that in HOMM though, so flanking them to take free towns is the nearest approximation.

HOMM3 SUCC WHEN?

>>4978109
>I want to fuck Blazing Glory
Pic related is you after the encounter.

>>4979556
Carpe diem. I'll spank a sprite and fuck a blazing glory.

>>4979584
>I'll spank a sprite and fuck a blazing glory
Why not do both to a Vestal instead of risking your life with Sprites and Glories?

>>4979592
Because Vestal look a bit too classy for my taste. Fucking them would be like, I dunno, throwing black paint on a white canvas.

>>4978552
>Orzie posted August 04, 2018 09:19 AM
>Fun is, I have been really playing Heroes for the last week. Yet, it was H3SW :).
We've been waiting for 5 years and they're just mocking us. They only want us to suffer.

>>4965010

try horn of the abyss

http://www.hota.acidcave.net/download.html

its a fanmade expansion but it feels professional. adds a whole new faction and tons of map locations, and works with the random map generators.

>>4979787
>Because Vestal look a bit too classy for my taste
Well, I got just the thing for you!

>>4980569
I can't decide if I hate her because she's black, because she's knife eared, because she has horns, or because she's a centaur.
I'd gladly kill her if I ever saw her in a game, through.

>>4949505
yeah, I honestly dont really play to win as much as I play to experience each map to the fullest

>>4949505
Not really. I rarely play to win, I mostly just fuck around. That's why I'm atrocious with any kind of competitive game.

>>4980605
>I can't decide if I hate her because she's black, because she's knife eared, because she has horns, or because she's a centaur
Well, she's half-zebra, so technically, she's white and black. Also, pleb taste anon. Long ears, horns and hooves are supreme fetish fuel and as a bonus you can try to turn her into a respectable member of society.
Is the 100% white (literally #FFFFFF white) Fate Spinner more to your taste then?

>>4980632
Sorry, I just pop an instant hateboner the moment I spot knife ears.

>6 arms
>one to caress your hair
>one to caress your cheek
>two to hug you
>one to jerk you off
>last one to control the remote and watch her own show instead of what you wanted to watch
HOT

>>4978106
One thing that H6 and Ashan in general did wrong is that its creatures for no real reason were too setting-specific. Like, what the fuck is a Sun Crusader. What the fuck is Blazing Glory? Celestial? Why not just call it an Angel? What the hell is a Juggernaut and why can't you name it by species. What's wrong with good old Ogre? Any time you try to come up with something dumb like that it just falls flat. When you see "elf", "gnome", "gremlin", "satyr", "unicorn" in older games it instantly evokes an image of a fantasy creature that everybody knows, and can understand, here it's like some 14 years old first fantasy fanfiction project.

HotA has the shades of this too, unfortunately. What's the difference between Nix and lizard people? What the fuck is a Sea Witch? Am I supposed to believe "sea dogs" is an army stack? Too specific and butts heads with existing concepts. Well, at least it's not five dwarves, godzilla and a bear. Keep this shit simple, dude.

>>4981740
M&M's weird lore means certain terms carry certain implications.

>>4981740
No seriously what the fuck is blazing glory?

>>4981740
I suppose it's like Warhammer. They're using recognizable, copyrightable names rather than "crusader, crossbowman" or "fire wizzard".

>>4981790
M&M never had much of lore, it was always a generic D&D campaign (literally, Crag the Hack was the name of JWC's D&D character) which is partly why it held such universal appeal. You could make a generic fantasy campaign in Heroes 3 because the content was 90% free of setting markings; I'm convinced this is why Forge never materialized or why Inferno utilizes basically nothing of Kreegan design you see in MM6 and MM7. Somehow NWC knew back then the strength of user-generated content and what was needed to foster it.

>>4982197
>Somehow NWC knew back then the strength of user-generated content and what was needed to foster it.
It only included editor because there was no way to shit out DLC back in the day.
WC3 wasn't as generic as homm3, yet it killed the whole genre, and prosperity of its sequel, with user content just fine.

>>4982207
> there was no way to shit out DLC back in the day.
Yeah right

>WC3 wasn't as generic as homm3, yet it killed the whole genre, and prosperity of its sequel, with user content just fine.
WC3Edit wasn't what killed genre, shifts in gaming habits did

>>4981939
>what the fuck is blazing glory?

Vessels of the will of Elrath, the Dragon-God of Light, Radiant Glories are shining spirits who can flare into brilliance and blind their enemies. In the Spirit Realm, Elrath’s dominion is filled with myriads of these creatures. They are often sent as envoys and advisors to Elrath’s most faithful followers. The generals of the Holy Empire soon found a use for these beings of burning light.
The Blazing Glory is a Radiant Glory that has been elevated by Elrath to a higher status. Directly exposed to the immaculate aura of the Dragon-God of Light, they are considered to be the manifestation of righteousness. They are greatly feared in battle, for in order to defeat one of them, one must find a good moral reason, or be cursed with guilt for eternity.

Ubisoft really did their best to turn Heroes into the most generic shit out there. Not that NWC's wacky sci-fi elements were somehow better but they at least tried to spice things up.

>>4982197
>, it was always a generic D&D campaign
It might be, but the focus on murder hobo as a core aspect is important.
As is the effort to get as much stuff as possible from the monster manual and myths, and actually present it well. On top of recycling content from their other series, and do a great cross franchise porting of various designs.

So you boulder trough Gorgons, Dragons, Harpies, Beholders, Giants, Angels, knights, bandits, crazy elementals, cyclops, ogres, trolls, orcs, goblins, skeletons, vampires, etc etc etc.
And trough all this, its just a massive murderhobo campaign, with a shitty GM that has a reasonable end goal.
Some of them fun of Heroes is how extremely total war the games end up playing, with no heed to logistics or politics. Its just you, your army, and trying to not get mangled as the land is literally mined for all resources including experience diplomacy.
I am just saying:
UbiHOMM do not present itself as such. Even if a lot of concepts is straight ripped, there isn't the same level of madness or escalation.

>>4983027
It's basically a light elemental. MM7 and 8 had those, not with the boobs though.
Also isn't it weird how MM6 was the first game to have Light and Dark magic, but never really explained where those spells come from. MM7 at least had Celeste and Temple of the sun. And Homm never added those schools until 5 too.

>>4983949
Well not formally, but it's hard to argue that from HoMM4 isn't light and especially that Death isn't dark magic. Within MM6 some of the npc text suggests that light is the magic of the gods and dark is the magic of power at any cost, although it isn't confirmed if there is any kind of dark god which would be more standard D&D. Sacrifice in MM7 would suggest there probably is though.

If you are interested in lore though you might want to check out the MM2 manual which talks about the history of the elementals and the MM3 manual which briefly goes over the separate gods relating to the classes in that game.

>>4983976
>that from HoMM4
that Life from HoMM4

>>4983949
heh not basically it literally is a light elemental and there's a level in the campaign I remember where they have this guy detained who you have to free and you have to fight like 8 units of them to do so before the guy dies(he loses health every turn if I remember right) design wise it was an interesting fight you don't see time limit battles in HoMM after all but annoying as hell.

But I really preferred the Haven line up of 6 to the abomination that was 7. It actually felt like Haven but in 7 its obvious those units are wolf dutchy units exclusively which is lame.

>>4983949
>It's basically a light elemental
Oh I see now.

>>4950336
are barkeeper's rumors legit or bullshit?

>>4985609
Those about "X earns most gold" etc. are true, at least at the start of the week. Same with grail. Random flavorful ones are bullshit obviously.

Heroes 5.5 is literally the best Heroes you can play, change my mind.

>>4986010
EAM ideas too convoluted for Heroes
Skill/hero class system became bloated instead of intuitive
Still uses H5 Xbox-huge map object design
Absolutely no idea how to design UI that looks good

Impressive effort but I'll stick with HotA

>>4984131
>design wise it was an interesting fight you don't see time limit battles in HoMM after all
Say what you want about Heroes 6, but it at least tried own new things with the inclusion of bosses. Shame the rest is so underwhelming. Also, icons for creatures and abilities were really well made:
>http://mightandmagic.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Heroes_VI_ability_icon_images

>>4985616
Also, the one that tells you that Haste and Slow are strong is true as well.

>Yog badmouth Crag Hack's intellect in SoD campaign
Oh shut the fuck up he have expert wisdom, earth and fire and can use town portal and armageddon while you're too stupid for anything stronger than slow and stone skin.

>>4988610
To be fair, Yog isn't the one who hands Sandro an incredibly powerful artifact on the most ridiculous and flimsiest of pretexts. Although he does destroy an even more powerful artifact because "muh barbarian"

>>4989103
Don't talk about Crag Hack like that, he's too pure for this world!

This is cool
https://www.artstation.com/universalexport

It contains high resolution homm IV portraits from the creator itself

From my experience, I can say that Cleric is not a good choice

The best option is to choose Druid instead

So the best team is Druid and 3 Sorcerers

Because lots of creatures are immune from cleric magic attacks

This is my protip for new M&M6/7 players

>>4990474
You shouldn't be using offensive self magic spells, period. Clerics are weaker early game and stronger late game because of how OP Shrapmetal is. Basically there is no reason to have a character without it once you know the game. Since bows can carry you through most of the early game you don't gain anything by giving up a character for it. You need at least 1 dedicated healbot most of the game anyway and any points you are giving to a druid might as well go toward body so you give up better armor for better weapon skills. After that it is about having another air/water versus another light/dark and the latter choice is way better. Also the Druid promotion quests are obnoxious. What the fuck were they thinking?

I just finished HoMM 1 and am about to move on to HoMM 2 (First time playing the series). HoMM 1 wasn't too bad outside of the final mission, but the suiciding armageddon heroes made me want to uninstall and move on. In the final mission it even made me savescum battles so I could somehow kill off all their units before they got that fucking spell off.

I've heard it's also a spell in later titles. Is it as annoying? How are you meant to play around it? And do most people savescum/is it a necessary strat for some of the harder campaigns?

>>4990460
oh cool, he did the clerical spellbooks for MM8 as well as Armageddon's blade loading screens, including this

>>4991698
Yes. It's even a valid tactic in HoMM3.
You can't.

>>4990460
No offense but I'd never trust that guy.

>>4991698
In homm2 Black dragons are a staple of any good army, also antimagic. In homm3 there's more speed variance and tactics allowing you to wipe most heroes without a chance to move, more creatures immune to that, and armageddon isn't that great, implosion is much more of a threat.

>>4991837
>>4991847
Ok cheers, I'll just have to try and adapt as I go. It's just really frustrating that enemy heroes with a single gargoyle (or other fast creature) could do massive amounts of damage to my army, killing a whole stack of tier 1 units, half my archers etc. before I could even get a single spell off to stop them. Even if I did, antimagic only works on a single stack.

Maybe I should have made some fodder heroes with weaker armies to bait these armageddon heroes into suiciding on something other than my main force.

Does HotA install itself in its own folder? I don't like using mods that mix its files with the base game.

>>4993997
It installs in the base game's folder but it doesn't modify any existing files. You can just make a copy for HotA if you so desire and point the installer at it, makes no difference.

>>4991737
>including this
Yeah, it was probably for the best Forge faction wasn't introduced in AB (no insult to the artist).

>>4990474

>>4990512
Is mostly just about MM6 where there are places for druids but they just aren't as useful late game. In MM7 the effects are even bigger as you lose out on Power Cure, GM Regeneration, GM Protection From Magic, and GM Light/Dark. That is before we get into some of the spirit spells whose direction is garbage without GM like preservation and bless.

The dark promotion for druid is among the hardest in the game as it requires you to have gone to Eeofol and even then the dragon doesn't do all that much. Even on the Light Path the Arch Druid quest doesn't get you much. GM mediation on a class that can't learn GM magics or any light/dark ends up being a waste and black potions can be bought at vendors. Oh and on DSSS versus CSSS you also lose out on merchant GM and any meaningful repair skill. Druids are simply a weaker class. They do pretty well early but doesn't scale at all.

>>4997383
>but doesn't scale at all
but the class doesn't scale and runs into the same types of problems as MM6 only much more severe.

>one year ago I thought I'd be playing Succ by new year
>three months ago I thought I'd be playing Succ by the start of summer

>>4997689
>three months ago I thought I'd be playing Succ by the start of summer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhwOZyfjon0

Does Might and Magic feature Dark Priests?

>HoMM IV
>early game, no money for vampires yet
>attack some lvl1 stack
>lose like 6 imps, 5 skeletons and 1 ghost
>raise 4 skeletons with necromancy
This is frustrating. I just can't figure out how to not lose so many units in this game. 3 of the imps I lost were 1-stacks, they sucked up only one wave of attacks on me. Low tier Death spells can't do a lot either, but they at least summoned me another stack of skeletons to draw fire with.
How do I get good?

>>4998116
Read art of war.
Remember that deception is the true strategem, even if it means months of kiting to starve enemy(and fill them with arrow holes)
Anything higher than that, such as how to aim a hero as a nuclear intercontinental ballistic missile via Dimension Door? Thats advanced stuff

How to set screen into 4:3?
Because playing M&M in widescreen looks awful

based

>>4998601
>Be emigrated foreign Chinaman
>True master of the dark arts
>Literally shedding the mortal farm to spread darkness
>Eyes literally radiate bursts of lightning
>Live in a normal hotel room with normal decoration
>With normal limestone walls
>And normal painted wooden beams
I think this is peak murderhobo. It doesn't get much better than that

>>4998327
Just like every other game - in driver settings. You can google the rest.

>>4998084
Yes but most of the time they don't look that much different from normal clerics. In MM7 your Cleric can be promoted to one on the dark path. For the earlier games the Clerics of Moo (MM3) and Yak (MM4) are clearly designed to be evil aligned but they are just normal enemies.

As for HoMM they really only exist in 4 and are one many of the class specializations and have a campaign based around one in the Gathering Storm expansion. Most of the Necromancers are wizards and Heretics are more chaos aligned than dark.

>>4999041
A shame. I just played WoW and I found it hilarious that priests can use shadow spells, but apparently dark priests have been a thing in RPGs for years now. Maybe even decades.

>>4998327
>>4998601
That looks nice.

>>4991737
el goblino... with maga hat too

>>4998601
Is that a Christmas tree?

sorry but is HD (steam version) now good with the mods?

>>5000507
Steam HD does not contain expansions. GOG Complete is the proper one.

>>5000507
Avoid the Steam HD version.

>>5000507
>HD

lmao

So Druid or Cleric?

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>>5000802
>Dwarf sorcerer
In MM7 The only advantage druid has is the alchemy, but no light/dark magic and he's usually as squishy as sorcerers. I just don't like having more categories of weapons/armor that I have no use for, so i'd always pick cleric.

>>5000802
If you have to ask this then Cleric. Playing the game without GM protection from magic and power cure isn't a good idea for people that don't know the game.

>>5000802
taking druid in mm7 is gimping yourself hard also inb4 muh black potion if you kenw how stats work in mm6-8 you'd know stats are capped too easy for potions to be worth shit

>>5000735
Delete this.

>>4949474
And spanking sprites!

>>5002075
>but muh black potions
Which by the time you can get to you can just buy from the shops in Celeste/The Pit

Is it just me or does the intro cutscene in HoMM 3 not play with the HD mod?

>>5004187
I only see the NWC video.

>пocмoтpим, кaк пoйдёт, в любoм cлyчae нaдo выпycкaть пepвый cтэйбл дo нacтyплeния 2019
Succ confirmed for 2018 release date! It's literally coming.

>>5004267
You will never get the succ. Never.

>>5004267
What is that "succ"?

>>5004391
>What is that "succ"?
← This. Also >>4998041

>>5004481
Oh, so just a mod for HoMM3.

>>5004492
>just a mod

Why do necromancers love berry juice so much?

*blocks your path

>>5004391
A downgrade mod.

Are the balance changes in HotA made with the original scenarios taken into account? I just started playing HoMM 3 and I've been playing the scenarios and I'm wondering if it would be okay to continue with HotA.

>>5005591
Weren't they going to update the original campaigns with all the new stuff added in both HOTA and the other expansions? It would be really nice to play and experience them with all the content proper.

Is there a way to play homm3 chronicles campaigns with hd mod?

>>5005591
>Are the balance changes in HotA made with the original scenarios taken into account?
Not really. You can't fix balance for every map, there's just too many.

that face when emerald isle dragon killed

>>5005145
You are supposed to bring a bunch of dragonflies into town who will kill him for you.

>>5004535
How simular will it be to 2, in balance? I Hope they dont make heaven into the shitshow it was, muh 60hp "elite" paladins.

>>5008032
http://heroes2.forumactif.com/t348-h3sw-creature-balance

>>5005591
balance changes are pretty minor and are for fair play on random maps. You should be fine with any "defeat all foes" default map, if anything, inferno is better now.

story-driven map may play differently but I can't recall any map from original heroes 3 complete where hota's balance changes can affect the gameplay.

>>5008574
god awful compaired to titans, unless they got nerfed

Are there any mods that allow setting of handicap in singleplayer scenarios? I want to play against Hard AI which supposedly "plays to the best of its ability" but I want to give them a handicap because I'm still learning how to play the game.

>>5010417
Just play it in normal then, that's the point. Once you learn most of the game then you can move up to Hard. Expert/impossible just remove some/all of your resources at the start.

>>4953785
I thought Diplomacy doesn't work in campaigns

>>5006954
time to trivalize the already easiest game in the series with the loot bug

Don't mind me, just posting the best battle theme in the entire franchise : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjvtQXsqvWY

It's just a coincidence it happened to be the first one I ever heard when I got HoMM3 for free with my PC gaming magazine.

>>5012579
>best battle theme in the entire franchise
I'd have a hard time disagreeing with you, but then again, Heroes III was my first HoMM game I ever played, so nostalgia is certainly influencing my decision. However, I'd say each HoMM III battle theme is appropriate for a particular encounter. Here's how I look at them:
Battle theme 1 - early fights with neutral monsters or a fight between two weak heroes:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDsHw4AjuYw
Battle theme 2 - a definitive 'fuck their shit up' theme mandatory for sieges and fights in which you overpower your enemies, be they enemy heroes or large stacks of neutral monsters [my favorite]:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLVTyp27mGo
Battle theme 3 - a balanced combat between two strong heroes or a even fight against a larger stacks of higher-leveled neutral monsters:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Mt7Pys0FI
Battle theme 4 - a 'last stand' kind of theme when defending against sieges, encountering heroes that overpower your own forces or fighting against a tough monster stack - all of will result with you losing almost all of army (or just losing outright):
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49S9m5TGsUM

Honorable mentions from other HoMM games (excluding Ubi's because I honestly can't remember their battle themes) are the following:
HoMM IV's more contemplative and sorrowful battle theme 4 (this was a tough choice since theme 2 and 3 are also really good);
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNYV7vCpayg
HoMM II's tribalistic sounding drums in battle theme 2 (kinda reminds me of the "Populous the Beginning" soundtrack):
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NbicLyBjwM
HoMM I's battle theme 1 (but I fluctuate between liking theme 1 and 2 more frequently):
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwgODYMxv-8

Why did you delete your post?

>>5013007
>Why did you delete your post?
Sorry, made a typo

>>5012579
>best battle theme in the entire franchise
I'd have a hard time disagreeing with you, but then again, Heroes III was my first HoMM game I ever played, so nostalgia is certainly influencing my decision. However, I'd say each HoMM III battle theme is appropriate for a particular encounter. Here's how I look at them:
Battle theme 1 - early fights with neutral monsters or a fight between two weak heroes:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDsHw4AjuYw
Battle theme 2 - a definitive 'fuck their shit up' theme mandatory for sieges and fights in which you overpower your enemies, be they enemy heroes or large stacks of neutral monsters [my favorite]:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLVTyp27mGo
Battle theme 3 - a balanced combat between two strong heroes or a even fight against larger stacks of higher-leveled neutral monsters:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Mt7Pys0FI
Battle theme 4 - a 'last stand' kind of theme when defending against sieges, encountering heroes that overpower your own forces or fighting against a very tough monster stack - all of will result with you losing almost all of your army (or just losing outright):
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49S9m5TGsUM

Honorable mentions from other HoMM games (excluding the ones made by Ubi because I honestly can't remember their battle themes) are the following:
HoMM IV's more contemplative and sorrowful battle theme 4 (this was a tough choice since theme 2 and 3 are also really good);
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNYV7vCpayg [Embed]
HoMM II's tribalistic sounding drums in battle theme 2 (kinda reminds me of the "Populous the Beginning" soundtrack):
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NbicLyBjwM [Embed]
HoMM I's battle theme 1 (but I fluctuate between liking theme 1 and 2 more frequently):
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwgODYMxv-8 [Embed]

>>5013010
Don't delete it again. I don't care if it says (embed) [Embed]

>>5013014
>Don't delete it again
Well, I fucked up again but I guess I'll live with my errors.

>>5013010
I liked some of the ideas in HoMM4, but I never liked the music. It sounded too strategy, too calm. Like the kind of music that precedes a battle, when you're making plans with your generals under the command tent.

>>5013028
>It sounded too strategy, too calm
That's true, though it has a certain kind of charm, even melancholy.

>>5013038
I can't really say. I played HoMM4 more than I did HoMM3, but I never really paid attention to the music, whereas HoMM3's music blasted my ears the first time I played it. I'm 100% sure it's scripted so that the tutorial battle against Inferno always use this track.

>>4998116
Poison

>>5012446
It does in at least some of them. I don't know how I'd win the Yog campaign's final mission without diplomacy.
That being said, the campaigns have a lot more stacks than a normal mission would have that are either set to auto attack you regardless of odds or to auto-join you, making diplomacy somewhat less useful.

>>5012446
Even if 90% of stacks are set to "Kill, maim, burn" that still leaves all the neutral stacks. And most of the stacks set to random units.
And that still leaves the enormous stacks of "Month of Gargoyles" that spawn, meaning any +1 month campaign has potential to turn into massive recruitment of the extreme amount of spawned units.

>>4949223

>>5014239
Steal a Tower City early and then build a castle. The enemy will siege you and you can burn them down slowly.

How much damage blaster should give?

I have master blaster skill 12 points and all damages I make are 24 something
or do I have a bug?

>>5015481
Did you read what the skill does? Every point is +1 chance to hit (expert double, master triple). There is no damage modifier. They are still stupidly OP with Hour of Power in live (non-turn based) mode. Also you shouldn't use regular blasters, you want to find the 4 blaster rifles scattered around in the Control Center.

>>5015116
>that pic
Could that be actual OC on this thread?

>monthly succ wars check

After all these years I fear I'm actually getting bored of H3. Every map has the massive late phase, at which point you've basically won but still have to conquer half the map and squash each individual AI hero, even though they stand no chance. Or you weren't fast enough in the early to mid game, the enemy built up armies ten times bigger than yours and crushes you quickly.
Can anyone recommend some really good user-made maps? No Chinese/mod autism pls.

>>5016885
I like how Trump looks terrified.

How do I get the detailed hero stats in the HD mod? When I right click a hero I still get the window in the right.

>>5018110
For some obscure reason, you are only able to see the detailed version when choosing to play a random map. You still get the small window when playing regular scenarios. Whether this a bug or intentional design choice, I have no idea, but it's definitely annoying as fuck. The only reason I could see this was done was because some scenarios start with your hero having a fixed army and a higher level (something like "Adventures of Jared Haret" or "Knee Deep in the Dead") and they weren't sure how to implement it in that window.

>>5016550
Keep making more of these, please.

>>4949476
Which hero that black-haired semen demon is supposed to be?

>>5019498
Yennefer of Vengerberg from The Witcher series.

>>5020303
>Yennefer of Vengerberg from The Witcher series
That makes no sense whatsoever anon. It's much more likely that's Jenova or really any other Hero with dark wavy hair (e.g. Adrienne, Mephala, Vidomina, Verdish).

Bump!

>>5019163
Can't, sorry.

>>4989103
>Although he does destroy an even more powerful artifact because "muh barbarian"
The SoD campaign pissed me off. why the fuck did they do that

>hell yeah let's break up and scatter the pieces this great artifact because fuck magic! haha
>oh shit sandro is taking over the world hey guys we need to put it back together again

dumb barbarian faggots

>>5024401
>barbarians are brainlets
whoa

How to change Disciples 2 language from russian to english? Config file? In game options? Can someone check their options and point me to the right place

>>5024884
I'll check up on you in a bit, let me just reinstall it real quick.

>>5024884
>I'll check up on you in a bit, let me just reinstall it real quick
Okay, so there's no option to change language settings anywhere. In fact that's not even Russian, it's just a collection of nonsensical Cyrillic glyphs. This looks like some sort of a bug. Is the text also jumbled up in the menu screen or in the dialogue boxes when you start the game? Also, where did you buy the game from (Steam, GOG) or where did you pirate the game from?

>>5024936
>In fact that's not even Russian, it's just a collection of nonsensical Cyrillic glyphs.
It probably is still Russian, but it's been rendered unreadable due to a different character encoding.

>>5024936
it is russian .My OS doesn't have russian typeset so it's all gibberish.

Since we seem to have segued into Disciples 2, how do you play the Mountain Clans? I just hate how slow their initiative is, I always win fights, but I always take so much damage doing it. I can't roll and expand the way I do with other factions, and I'm actually not enjoying playing their Saga, even as I slog my way through it.

>>5025126
>Since we seem to have segued into Disciples 2, how do you play the Mountain Clans?
That depends one whether you're playing a saga or a single scenario.

Picking a Warrior Lord makes the most sense for smaller scenarios because you start with a King's Guard (the beefiest melee hero with highest attack) and the passive 15% healing per day is a godsend for a faction with no healers and only one healing spell.
For scenarios that involve playing on 72x72 or 96x96 maps, I'd say picking a Guild Lord or a Mage Lord is equally viable, though for different reasons. Picking the former allows you to upgrade cities at a 50% discount which means you can turtle up much more easily and heal your Engineer-led party faster after covering more ground than any other Clan hero, and you actually have a reason to hire arguably the best Thieves in the game (thanks to their higher health pool that can allow them to challenge Rod planters 1-on-1 and win) since now you can also use them to perform advanced actions. The latter pick enables you to cast spells twice at half the cost, meaning you can cast Healing, Forestwalk, Seafaring and Chant of Hasting twice every single turn (if you have enough mana for it, which you should have at the later stages of the game) and starts you off with a Loremaster that can turn into a one-slot version of the Elder One when he acquires enough levels, decent artifacts and gets buffed by your Archdruidess at the start of each fight.

Saga is a different animal altogether since you can pick whatever Lord you want and discard the starting hero in favor of another one without crippling yourself too much in the long run. Personally, however, I love sticking with my starting hero till the end of the saga. Also, I feel that Loremaster and Engineer scale much better than the King's Guard and the best artifacts you acquire throughout the saga favor the former two (Ring of the Ages and Boots of Seven Leagues). I can expand on that a bit more if you'd like.

>>5025336
>I can expand on that a bit more if you'd like.
Please do. I really was more talking about the Saga than the individual Quests.

>>5025446
wait, 31.28 for a black cutie?

>>5025336
Please do.
No problem - hope you like long walls of text!

So, let's start about the units themselves. Now, we can talk shit about Mountain Clans all we want but they're the only faction whose unit roster offers all 4 elemental damage sources (Air, Earth, Fire and Water), which makes their unit composition very flexible. In comparison, Empire, Legion and Hordes only have one (Air for the former one, Fire for the latter two - in fact, having access to Fire source damage through using Lich Queen is practically mandatory for Undead Saga) and the Elves have three (Air, Fire and Water); however, all four have access to Death damage source, which is something Mountain Clans lack. Giant tree is very versatile and enables you to either spec into Sons of Ymir (who are mandatory for conquering Capitols because of their frostbite-inflicting attack) or into beefy Elder Giants. Likewise, their frontline one-slot units are also beefy as fuck and when you upgrade them to Rune Masters or Hermits/Wolf Lords (Dwarf Kings are redundant) and buff them with the Archdruidess, they can wreck shit as well. Their archer tree is lackluster, which is why you should use Engineers and Loremasters in the first place. Units from the mage tree will either buff your attack or let you attack twice in one turn, both choices having their advantages and drawbacks - the Archdruidess would be generally considered a better pick unless you rely on a unit's secondary effects more for whatever reason (e.g. your Engineer has the Hag's Ring or Soul Crystal, so picking the Alchemist allows you to Polymorph or Paralyze two units in one turn instead of one).
Basically, you can mix and match to your heart's content.

Spells are primarily oriented on buffing your party's movement speed as well as their armor and attack, which makes this faction great for Capitol sieges (they are still not as good as Empire, Hordes or Legions are). Summon and damage spells are decent, so not much to say about them.

>>5025506
At least in my experience though, short of savescumming, that degree of flexibility is very hard to use. Extra elemental types of damage are only useful if you run into something with a ward or an immunity to the type you're packing; and it's often hard to know what that is. Combined with the AI being too dumb to use that sort of prophylactic magic, and the need to pick your upgrades often well in advance, and that sort of versatility means less than just raw power in the form of things like damage, HP, initiative value.

Furthermore, assuming you're going with a mage hero (I am for this slow slogging saga), unless you think you're going to run into somethign that's immune to the earth singer, you're probably best off using your mage hero with a pair of support casters to boost his damage and/or give him extra attacks. Getting any of the giant types precludes at least one of these boosters, and if you want elemental damage, taht means taking the right path on fighter upgrade selection, which takes away your physical damage. In fact, that's why, although I haven't gotten there in the Saga yet, that the Dwarf Kings are probably the best of the lot for them, I need defense, not offense, in that front line.

Also, I generally thought that the undead were the best for the capital attacks; all that paralysis in your front line means you can stunlock the god forever. But without that, Iv'e found that capital attacks are all about getting a major hero up to nigh invincible status, 90 armor, and then something to either stunlock the god or give your hero lifesteal so he can trade body blows with the thing that's got 900 HP.

>>5025506
And finally, the heroes! To preface this, I've played through the Mountain Clans saga twice - first time (more than a decade ago, so forgive me for not remembering how I spec'd him) playing as a Mage Lord with my main hero being a Loremaster, second time (a few years ago) as a Guild Lord with my main being an Engineer. Someone who has played with a King's Guard as their main is welcome to share their own experience with the saga.

So, what do you want to achieve with these two heroes?
Well, you use the Engineer to cover ground very quickly and in combat he serves to one-shot any back-row unit that can cause you problems while letting your beefier units absorb the brunt of the attack. As a Loremaster, you can mitigate the movement issues by using movement-enhancing spells but a much longer time investment is required to level him up and equip him properly - however, the end result is that you get a unit that is able to inflict around 300 damage across the board (unless the unit is immune to Earth damage) when properly supported with various artifacts and the Archdruidess' +100% damage buff.

The artifacts you will get throughout the vanilla saga will drastically enhance your movement speed (Boots of Seven Leagues - +60% movement for hero), damage and/or initiative (Ring of Ages [+40% damage and +25% initiative for hero]; Ring of Strength [+20% damage for hero]; Banner of War [+20% damage for all]; Banner of Speed [+10% initiative for all]), which you can transfer along with your hero to the "Guardians of the Light" expansion saga. Boots of Seven Leagues are found in the last scenario of the vanilla saga but I can't remember where you get the Ring of Ages; however make sure you get both.

A word of advice - when playing with Mountain Clans make sure you don't buff the hero's initiative so they end up with a higher initiative than your Archdruidess (fixed 70 Initiative) because you want your hero to get the +100% damage buff from her before they attack.

>>5025590
How did you get both an archdruidess and an alchemist in the same party?

>>5025565
>that sort of versatility means less than just raw power in the form of things like damage, HP, initiative value
That is true, that's why Mountain Clans aren't considered to be the best in the game.

>you're probably best off using your mage hero with a pair of support casters ... Getting any of the giant types precludes at least one of these boosters
Unless you get an Alchemist or a Druidess right of the bat in a scenario (check the pic in this post >>5025590) which enables you to develop the other branch of the mage tree, only one caster is needed. This means you still have space for one two-slot unit (preferably a Son of Ymir for reasons I mentioned above).

>the Dwarf Kings are probably the best of the lot for them, I need defense, not offense, in that front line
I'd have to disagree on this one. You see, Dwarf Kings have 250 HP, 30 Armor, Mind and Water Wards and inflict 100 damage while Rune Masters have 300 HP, no armor or wards and can attack twice for 65 damage each. However, Dwarf Kings have 20 Initiative (in comparison, Rune Masters have 40 initiative), which means they will be the last one to act (and thus, enter a defensive stance). Also, don't forget Clans have access to the largest number of armor-boosting spells, so that 30 Armor value can actually become redundant.

>I generally thought that the undead were the best for the capital attacks
They are AFAIK, though a similar effect can be achieved by using a set of Incubi (polymorph is useless on the Guardian) casting Petrify (65% hit chance). Empire is also amazing since you can buff your armor with spells as well with potions and then simply waltz in with a party that contains the Prophetess and set the combat to auto-resolve.

>Iv'e found that capital attacks are all about getting a major hero up to nigh invincible status
Although that's the one way to do it, having a unit in your buffed party that can apply a damage-over-time status effect (not reduced by armor) is a better option IMO.

>>5025630
>How did you get both an archdruidess and an alchemist in the same party?
As I've said, you get an Alchemist right of the bat at the start of the mission, so what you can do is to purchase your basic Tenderfoot and upgrade her to Archdruidess, thus having both casters.

>>5025565
Continuing from this post (>>5025652) - the first pic as well as this one shows you what a fully buffed party with a lvl 11 Assassin and a lvl 9 Prophetess can do. This setup only gets more and more OP the more you level it. For example, in the last mission of the "Guardians of the Light" expansion saga I ended up with an lvl 31 assassin that could inflict 165 base damage and 125 poison damage (you can outright kill a Guardian with the poison damage in less than 7 turns), a lvl 19 Prophetess that could heal 150 damage and three lvl 19 Holy Avengers that could hit for 150 damage twice in a row each, not to mention my lvl 18 Archmage that had a 180 AOE attack that applied Paralysis (from the Soul Crystal artifact you get in the first few missions in vanilla campaign).
The speed by which you can level up your Assassin and how well the unit scales is also the main reason why picking a Ranger to be your main when playing through the Empire saga is a bad choice overall.

I can give you more examples if you want, though I feel we might be derailing the thread a bit.

I don't mind the Disciples posts. More to read = better.

I like the Disciples post but I don't understand a thing.

>>4999873
yes

>>5027079
>I don't mind the Disciples posts. More to read = better
I suspect others might not share the same opinion as you, but since the thread was on page 7 just half an hour ago I guess we can keep it alive by talking about it.
Here's my favorite party composition simply because of how silly and overpowered it is: a literal Death squad surrounding the Lich Queen. I could basically instant-resolve more than 90% of the fights in the later stages of the Undead Saga without getting injured. The pic also shows why the Lich Queen is so important - a good part of Undead Saga will have you fight other undead units, and since all undead units are immune to Death damage source and some of them even being immune to physical damage, you'll get into an awkward situation in which both you and the enemy can't hurt each other. Then you need to use items or spells to resolve the stalemate, which is boring as fuck.

>>5027082
>I like the Disciples post but I don't understand a thing
Well, have you ever played the game? If not, then it's understandable all of this might look like gibberish to you. It's a fun and quirky TBS game, just like HoMM is. but there are quite a lot of differences between the two that include but are not limited to:
preselecting a Lord that influences the passive bonuses or special perks you get access to; diplomacy system (albeit not very useful in most scenarios); four types of heroes that can be killed in the field (but also resurrected in certain condition), one of which is used to 'flag' mines; parties led by heroes (or other units in special cases) that are limited by the number of slots (one unit can take up one or two slots); units that can be upgraded in various ways, a fixed battle grid in which you can't move units during combat; much more developed adventure map spells that can be used to summon units, buff your party, debuff the enemy or outright damage their units and many other things that'll be apparent when you start playing the game.

>mfw when nobody told me about MM678 merge mod
>mfw playing it for the first time

>>5027192
it's shit with bugs

>>5027198
So is your mom's vagina, but it doesn't stop you from loving her.

>>5027192
There's a thing that puts all three together?

>>5027273

So uh... Titans.

>>5027384

>>5027192
It came up in the last thread briefly. There are some bugs although the whole thing can be completed, but the biggest issue is that if you start anywhere but Jadame you will eventually be pushed into the MM7 style Light or Dark choice as MM6 characters are banned from Dark Magic. The fetch quests for the combined parts are a bit tedious. Blasters are as broken as ever. Bow recovery reduction is capped at 30 instead of 5(MM7) or 0(MM8), so they never really reach their potential.

>>5027153
>Well, have you ever played the game?
I did. I understand that Banshee plants dongs that expand your territory and that units can evolve, but when I tried Disciples 3, I got massively rekt by the first enemies I met and most of my units died, and the others got like 2 XP our of 1000 mandatory to evolve.

>>5027892
>I did. I understand that Banshee plants dongs that expand your territory and that units can evolve
Then you're half-way there already - what I talked about is the combat aspect of the game and why (IMO) some party compositions are better than other ones.
>but when I tried Disciples 3
Well, there's your problem! Jokes aside, I haven't played D3 (due to relatively poor reviews) so I can't say much about what happened there. I can answer any questions you have about D2 however.

>>4949465
>That tiny bush or shroom that forces you to take a way all around your starting city, lasting 3 turns
Are there any non-shit solutions to this? Yes, I know WoG has an option for crossing over terrain, but it applies to ALL terrain barriers, not just those annoying little shits, and AI gets always mixed up by it.

>>5028231
>Are there any non-shit solutions to this?
Why would you want to trample on someone's patch of flowers or juniper bushes you monster? In all seriousness, that small detail annoys me a little bit - why couldn't they make those smaller vegetation patches traversible, albeit with a movement penalty, while keeping forests and mountains impossible to traverse without using fly?

Shit now I want to replay Disciples 2 too. I don't think I ever finished all the campaigns.

>>5028415
I got into it again a couple of months ago but couldn't handle the long as fuck turn times. Wish there was some fix for that because I really love that game.

>>5028415
>Shit now I want to replay Disciples 2 too. I don't think I ever finished all the campaigns
I can give you some tips if you want.

>>5028456
>Wish there was some fix for that because I really love that game
I'm afraid I'm not aware of any ways to reduce the wait times, however, there might be an option for the opponent's animations to be skipped, so that might help a bit because the camera doesn't have to pan to every single opponent's thief and rod planter moving.

Question about SoD, how close to the final scenario is the scenario with crag and yog starting with 2 towns and 2 crags nearby?

>>5028054
I haven't really tried D2. I think I have it on GoG, though, so I just have to install it.

Joke aside, D3 looks fine, there are a lot of unit variety and the lore for each looks really neat, but I can't have fun with it.

>>5028639
>Question about SoD, how close to the final scenario is the scenario with crag and yog starting with 2 towns and 2 crags nearby?
If you finished the "To Strive, To Seek" mission (with Gelu and Gem) before "Barbarian Brothers" (pic related), then you just have two scenarios remaining - "Union" and "The Fall of Sandro" (the latter scenario being really short).
However, when you're done with that scenario, then you get access to "Specter of Power" (which is composed out of 4 rather mediocre and forgettable scenarios).

>>5028712
>I haven't really tried D2. I think I have it on GoG, though, so I just have to install it
Well, I haven't really tried D3 so I might have to do the same! But yeah, D2 is a game that, just like HoMM3, has aged really well. Sure, the game has it's kinks and rough patches but it still looks and sounds lovely. Do try it out sometimes!
Just a warning - when you buy the "Disciples 2 Gold" edition from GOG, you will get two versions of the game: "Dark Prophesy and Gallean's Return" and "Rise of the Elves". The "Rise of the Elves" version contains the vanilla sagas as well as the expansion saga (with Elves) but lacks the "Gallean's Return" saga which allows you to import a hero you played with (along with the OP artifacts you've found during those missions) in the vanilla saga.
I personally played the first version for the vanilla and expansion saga and then switched to the other version to do the Elven saga and play single scenarios.

>>5028741
Okay. Dark Prophesy, then.
Undead for life.

>>5028754
>Undead for life
I swear to God, the [Lich Queen + 5 x Death] party composition (seen here >>5027153) is so broken when playing against a computer AI that it almost makes me feel sad for them almost.

>>5028772
Never understood why Death is always evil in fantasy games. I suppose Majesty and Diablo 2 influenced me too much.

>>5028639
Dude you can see how many missions are in scenario by looking on the map on starting screen.

>>5028741
>(which is composed out of 4 rather mediocre and forgettable scenarios).
Not him, but the only reason I remember it at all I that I misinterpreted "With Blinders On" to not be a rather standard campaign mission where you can't lose the designated hero. I thought that if I lost a battle with any hero ,even my stupid supply ones with 1 skeleton, I'd lose. That in turn led to a lot of disbanding my heroes needlessly because I saw an enemy that might come and hit them.


And even without being a massive step back from the epic that was the final action with all the combination artifacts, trying to make Sandro indirectly responsible for EVERYTHING that happened in the previous campaigns was just stupid. It shrinks the world, you know?

All the talk about Disciples 2 made me give it a shot. I started the Legions of the Damned campaign and found the first mission pretty difficult even on normal difficulty. I thought it was highly trial and error and I had to savescum. I don't know if my party just sucked, I was using a mage leader accompanied by a witch and a demon and the Dwarf parties often just seem too powerful for them and I'd have to soften them up with Beliarh summons.

I did like that it was short and focused compared to the only campaign mission of HoMM 3 I bothered to try, Long Live the Queen, which seemed to be just a senseless mopping up of a map that took forever to clear.

>>5028741
>you just have 2 scenarios remaining
I wish I was asking for that reason, can you suggest to me what you would do if you had gotten to that point and your laptop was suddenly destroyed by a drunken family member?
Is there a way to skip to this point or would I have to attempt to recover the data from hard drive if I want to avoid playing the entire thing again once I get a new machine?
That scenario especially was such a drawn out struggle for me on 200%
Thank you for answering.

>>5028741
>>5030086
Looking at the map, its not the one I was thinking of so I'm probably referring to the yog and crag scenario before this one, had 5 necro towns around the outskirts of the map with black borders between them, 2 behemoth crags and 2 cyclops caves on the map which is how I managed to last 4 months and still eventually win. Just in case that's relevant to how I might skip ahead.

>>5030086
>can you suggest to me what you would do if you had gotten to that point and your laptop was suddenly destroyed by a drunken family member?
Shit anon, did they do that intentionally or by accident?

>Is there a way to skip to this point or would I have to attempt to recover the data from hard drive if I want to avoid playing the entire thing again once I get a new machine?
Well, you can use the cheat 'nwcredpill' to instantly win any specific scenario but that doesn't level up your hero, so you'll need to use 'nwcneo' cheat. However, this gives you a 'CHEATER!' rating on the high-score screen.
If you want, you can use my own HoMM save files I uploaded on zippyshare for you - all you need to do is to download it and unzip it your "Games" folder (though it's obvious my heroes might have different secondary skills than yours would have). Here's the link to it:
>https://www51.zippyshare.com/v/6XF0ivtt/file.html

>Thank you for answering
You're welcome anon!

>>5030093
>had 5 necro towns around the outskirts of the map with black borders between them, 2 behemoth crags and 2 cyclops caves on the map
Sounds like "Secrets Revealed".

>>5028780
>Never understood why Death is always evil in fantasy games
I think Death should have a true neutral alignment but, that being said, it's not like you can put Death in the same faction Elves or Dwarves are.

>>5029871
>I thought that if I lost a battle with any hero ,even my stupid supply ones with 1 skeleton, I'd lose
Hey it happens!
>It shrinks the world, you know?
I agree. The motives of each faction should've been disparate and frequently clash with each other. Coincidentally, that's one of the things Disciples 2 did well.

>>5029925
>I thought it was highly trial and error and I had to savescum
That's any TBS game for you. Until you get familiar with the game mechanics, you WILL make critical mistakes and die miserably.

>I was using a mage leader accompanied by a witch and a demon and the Dwarf parties often just seem too powerful for them
Starting a Saga with a Mage hero (in your case Archmage) is always tricky and doing so with Legions is doubly so because they don't have any regeneration spells whatsoever. This scenario is also one of the rare ones in which you have to complete an objective in a certain time limit (it takes about 35-40 turns for your main target to arrive to a north-eastern corner of the map, which loses you the scenario). Dwarves are also just bulky as fuck so you need a lot of firepower (summons, spells etc) to wear them down. Don't shy away from outright suiciding your junk heroes at your target to soften their units up a little bit before you finish them off with your main hero (the one you'll transfer to the next scenario along with the artifacts you find). Be sure to stick around because the next mission let's you control one of the most OP unique units in the game (pic related).

>I did like that it was short and focused compared to the only campaign mission of HoMM 3 I bothered to try
Try out "Armaggedon's Blade" or "Shadow of Death" campaigns then - they're a bit more interesting than the ones in "Restoration of Erathia".

>>5030225
I dunno, when you watch Might and Magic, or Disciples, it seems like an even worse version of "I want to control everything". And then there's Warhammer, but it's not really Death here.

>>5024991
>it is russian .My OS doesn't have russian typeset so it's all gibberish.
it's not russian. Some chars don't exist in rus alphabet.

>>5030632
>it's not russian. Some chars don't exist in rus alphabet
Can you even set the language to Russian when installing the game?

>>5030178
Intentionally, thanks for asking.
My mother can be such a sweetheart when she falls off the wagon.
That's very helpful of you my man, I will gladly use your save files when I eventually get myself another computer and if the link expires by then I at least know what to ask for.
This is quite the relief, that campaign progress was the only significant loss ,at least in terms of game data.
I thank you once again, I also had progress in the Armageddon's blade so overall your data will save me from having to repeat countless hours of scenarios.
Bless you sir.

Also what's up with those little post-campaign scenarios, you mentioned one after beating sandro and I got to the one at the end of restoration of erathia and was fairly puzzled by it, like it just throws in some unchallenging micro campaign about some random guy establishing his own little nation of elves, seemed unnecessary and didn't really add to the story in any way.

>>5032025
>Intentionally, thanks for asking
I'd try to get a job and get away from that kind of toxic environment ASAP, however, I'm aware not a lot of people nowadays can afford to move out. Stay strong, try to help her overcome her addiction but don't let her drag you down with her. My grandpa was a drunkard, but fortunately for us, he wasn't violent or destructive in his older days.
>I will gladly use your save files when I eventually get myself another computer and if the link expires by then I at least know what to ask for
Yeah, even if the link expires and I'm not here to re-upload it, I'm sure someone else could share their own files.
>Bless you sir
Thank you anon, it's not a problem at all to share these with you.
>Also what's up with those little post-campaign scenarios, you mentioned one after beating sandro
Yep, "Specter Of Power" campaign in which you see how Sandro helped Lord Haart poison King Gryphonheart, as well as assisting Nighon Overlords and the Kreegans to invade Erathia. Kinda bland and short, but since you're there, why not complete it?
>I got to the one at the end of restoration of erathia and was fairly puzzled by it ... seemed unnecessary and didn't really add to the story in any way
Technically, it sort of did. In the Might & Magic universe you have an area on the continent of Antagarich (where everything in HoMM III happens) called "the Contested Lands" because both AvLee (Elves) and Erathia (Humans) claim to have rights to that territory. In that scenario, you are essentially declaring independence which plays a part in M&M7 when you actually become a ruler of Harmondale.

>>5030632
Dude that's exactly how broken locale works. I tried to play russian version with japanese locale just recently and it looked just like this.
>>5031843
Not in official installers at least, those are strictly one language.

>>5028772
>nonflying hero as a main

>>4957749
The fuck are you talking about? RTS series? Warhammer? Heroes 5 III? Did memes break your mind?

>>5032373
Don't bother.

>>5032373
If you can't grasp that much
You might consider going back to school
Really you should
It is insult to not be able to grasp information when presented in less than 1500 characters.

I read the pastebin, but I'm still somewhat unsure of where a newfag like myself should start. I've narrowed it down to HoMM3 and HoMM7.

What are some reasons to pick one or the other as a starting point?

>>5032565
Play Might and Magic 6, then play Heroes III. And then try everything else to see if its really great.

>>5032565
Homm3 is the most relevant homm.

>>5033210
What do you mean by relevant?

>>5033312
Most players, most alive scene (look HotA).

>>5032565
HoMM3 is a good game and HoMM7 is a bad game

>>5032565
The suggested starting points are: HoMM2, HoMM3, MM3, or MM6. HoMM3 is the most famous of the bunch and is still played regularly.

>>5032565
I'm playing them all in release order which has been working out for me. Honestly it's probably a good thing, I enjoyed HoMM 1 but I doubt I could ever play it after HoMM 2 & 3. It wasn't so bad that it could put me off the rest of the series (the final mission was trying though)

currently running 3 knights one druid in mm6 how fucked am I?

>>5033956
Certainly doable but you are making it needlessly hard for yourself. You lose out on light and dark magic completely and your druid will basically act as a weaker cleric most of the time until you have enough spare skill points to get water up.

>>5034054
I did druid so I could have access to healing spells and air magic mainly, I dont want the use of light/dark in this run (my second)

also where do I learn air/fire/water? everything I find just tells me where to find the expert/master trainers

>>5032354
>No, Thank You.jpg
But flying heroes can't use boots (AFAIK). My Lich Queen used Boots of the Elements in the vanilla saga and got Boots of the Seven Leagues in the expansion one, so she was as fast if not faster than my Duke hero.

>>5034119
Why would you ever think they can't?

>>5034187
>Why would you ever think they can't?
Well, the only flying Guild Lord hero is the Counselor and I have never picked him as a main, so that's why I forgot flyer heroes could equip boots. After all, as fliers, they can only benefit from boots that increase the percentage of total movement points. So, if you could stick Boots of the Seven Leagues on Counselor, that would be amazing, but in the entire Legions Saga (vanilla and the expansion) the only useful boots that you could find are Boots of Travelling (40% increase in base movement points), which is not bad, but as amazing as Boots of the Seven Leagues that are available in Mountain Clan, Undead Horde (btw, playing as anything else than Lich Queen is not recommended) and Elven Alliance campaigns.

Doing undead campaign in Disciples 2 right now. Does Hag's Ring ever work on capital guardians?

>>5034349
>Does Hag's Ring ever work on capital guardians?
Not really (AFAIK), they just transform to their normal form at the start of their turn. Don't worry - just try out my suggested party (>>5027153) and you can basically steamroll through the entire Undead Saga. I want to reiterate how much the Lich Queen is necessary for the campaign so to not turn it into a slogfest.

>>5034557
I already cleared campaign and you need to stop trying to spoonfeed everyone and their mother in this thread even when not being asked. Half of the fun is figuring stuff by yourself.

>>5034740
>you need to stop trying to spoonfeed everyone and their mother in this thread even when not being asked
Why, because you don't like it? Try not reading it if it triggers you so much.
>Half of the fun is figuring stuff by yourself
There is nothing particularly fun in encountering a neutral party that has Wraiths or Deaths so you're forced to either bypass them or spam magic spells and use talismans to try and kill them off.

>>5034349
The easy way to take out capital guardians with the Undead Hordes is to get the phantom warriors with their high enough health to survive a guardian blast even without any boosts, and that lovely 3 turn paralysis when they hit. Those guardians don't have any mind protection, so you can stun lock them indefinitely.

>>5034098
You learn magic skills at their guilds. The elemental guild will also teach all 4 magic skills, but not learning.

>>5034801
I said in the very post why faglord.

Would it be worth it to visit the Symphony of Heroes performance in Poland, if I only really know the music from Heroes 3? They are pretty close (I'm almost 1 country away), but I have no one to travel with and I hate travelling alone.

Lads, can I get some Sniper tips on how to run Disciples 2 on a modern PC? I have not gone full /vr/ so I don't have an old rig to run this on and on my 2 monitor setup I have basically 3 options to play:


>No Direct3D fullscreen
launches on the correct monitor, edge pan doesn't work on one side, but absolutely abysmal performance, unplayable
>Direct3D fullscreen
launches on the wrong (non-default) monitor, no edge pan, but best performance
>windowed
it's windowed, duh - not ideal

None of the compatibility options seemed to do anything and I can't get any useful info out of the forums.

>>5035136
This music is awesome in its own right and is absolutely worth it to listen to live even if you haven't played any HoMM games, so just do it.

>>5035185
I'm an agoraphobic shut-in, so just travelling to a different town is already difficult, let alone travelling to a different country, to visit a huge concert in a hall filled with thousands of people.

I don't suppose they'll hold a performance at Budapest...?

>>5035185
For the poor performance issue, try using DDrawCompat.

>>5035185
Just disable second screen while playing ffs.

>>5032565
Hi cute shark.

*slaps Malcolm's beard*

>>5035010
lol I had a complete brainfart early in the game, one of my goals was to get air early on, and if I had just joined the elemental guild I would have gotten air, it's been a while since I last played this game for more than 10 minutes but even that's no excuse because I could have just googled what the elemental guild was

>>5037484
>*slaps Malcolm's beard*
This bad boy can fit so much useless skills in it

Seen anon complained about Clans saga but it was honestly even easier than others thanks to cheap speed magic. I just put archer hero with armor artifacts in front and he worked as a damage sponge through whole saga because AI going nuts when he see ranged unit in front line.

what was the "correct" campaign order with all the addons, just top to bottom?
been a while

>>5038920
in HOMM3, derp

>>5030225
Which game is that?

>>5038953
Disciples 2

>>5038920
>>5038924
>what was the "correct" campaign order with all the addons ... in HOMM3
If we include the Heroes Chronicles set of campaigns, the strict chronological order by which you should play them (according to some turbonerds on forums: celestialheavens.com/forum/10/9449) should look like this:

01. Heroes Chronicles: Warlord of the Wasteland
02. Heroes Chronicles: Conquest of the Underworld
03. Heroes Chronicles: Revolt of the Beastmasters
04. Heroes Chronicles: Master of the Elements
05. Heroes Chronicles: The World Tree
06. Heroes Chronicles: The Fiery Moon
07. Heroes of Might and Magic III: The Shadow of Death
08. Foolhardy Waywardness campaign from Armageddon's Blade*
09. Heroes of Might and Magic III: The Restoration of Erathia
10. Heroes of Might and Magic III: Armageddon's Blade (except last campaign, see above)
11. Heroes Chronicles: Clash of the Dragons
12. Heroes Chronicles: The Sword of Frost

*Foolhardy Waywardness campaign is not accessible unless you complete the previous five campaigns in Armageddon's Blade, so the Armageddon's Blade expansion is anachronistic by default.

I, however, would recommend that you play the game in order by which they were released:

01. Heroes of Might and Magic III: The Restoration of Erathia
02. Heroes of Might and Magic III: Armageddon's Blade
03. Heroes of Might and Magic III: The Shadow of Death
04-12. (Optional) All eight Heroes Chronicles episodes, starting with Warlord of the Wasteland and ending with The Sword of Frost

As for individual campaigns in each expansion, do them in whatever order you want, but make sure you use the end save (you're prompted to create after completing the last mission in a campaign) to start the next one because some scenarios are locked and you'll be unable to access them unless you beat all the previous ones using the same save file. You will know you did this correctly if you can see a check mark on the picture(s) of the campaign(s) you've just finished (pic related).

>>5038920
>>5038924
>what was the "correct" campaign order with all the addons
>in HOMM3, derp
If we include the Heroes Chronicles set of campaigns, the strict chronological order by which you should play them (according to some turbonerds on forums: celestialheavens.com/forum/10/9449) should look like this:

01. Heroes Chronicles: Warlord of the Wasteland
02. Heroes Chronicles: Conquest of the Underworld
03. Heroes Chronicles: Revolt of the Beastmasters
04. Heroes Chronicles: Master of the Elements
05. Heroes Chronicles: The World Tree
06. Heroes Chronicles: The Fiery Moon
07. Heroes of Might and Magic III: The Shadow of Death
08. Foolhardy Waywardness campaign from Armageddon's Blade*
09. Heroes of Might and Magic III: The Restoration of Erathia
10. Heroes of Might and Magic III: Armageddon's Blade (except last campaign, see above)
11. Heroes Chronicles: Clash of the Dragons
12. Heroes Chronicles: The Sword of Frost

*Foolhardy Waywardness campaign is not accessible unless you complete the previous five campaigns in Armageddon's Blade, so the Armageddon's Blade expansion is anachronistic by default.

I, however, would recommend that you play the game in order by which they were released:

01. Heroes of Might and Magic III: The Restoration of Erathia
02. Heroes of Might and Magic III: Armageddon's Blade
03. Heroes of Might and Magic III: The Shadow of Death
04-12. (Optional) All eight Heroes Chronicles episodes, starting with Warlord of the Wasteland and ending with The Sword of Frost

As for individual campaigns in each expansion, do them in whatever order you want, but make sure you use the end save (you're prompted to create after completing the last mission in a campaign) to start the next one because some scenarios are locked and you'll be unable to access them unless you beat all the previous ones using the same save file. You will know you did this correctly if you can see a check mark on the picture(s) of the campaign(s) you've just finished (pic related).

>>5038773
>Seen anon complained about Clans saga but it was honestly even easier than others thanks to cheap speed magic
I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. I think the Empire saga is arguably the easiest one thanks to their versatile buffing spells (Haste being a poor man's Chant of Hasting) and by how OP healing ability is.
>I just put archer hero with armor artifacts in front and he worked as a damage sponge through whole saga because AI going nuts when he see ranged unit in front line
Huh, I haven't thought of that before.

>>5039115
thanks m8

>>5039136
Well that was for me at least. Gnome haste is twice stronger and thrice cheaper and you can spam it almost every turn as soon as you capture one death node. They also give you life drain artifact which makes said hero archer just unkillable.

>>5039137
>thanks m8
No problem!

>>5039190
>haste is twice stronger and thrice cheaper and you can spam it almost every turn as soon as you capture one death node
You probably referring to the Chant of Hasting (+100% max movement regen), Hasting is the name of the spell used by Empire (+50% max movement regen). Now, I presume that playing as a Mage Lord with a Engineer main hero would be OP as fuck since you could cast the chant twice in a row on a hero that eventually gets access to the Boots of the Seven Leagues (+60% increase in base movement) in the saga. I played as a Guild Lord, so I haven't tried that combination out.
>They also give you life drain artifact which makes said hero archer just unkillable
The amount of life you drain isn't that high as far as I remember. However, if you have a high enough armor (which Clans do), I suppose you can stay alive for a ridiculously long time. Again, I prefer the Empire saga since you can acquire the Soul Crystal in the third mission of the game.

>>5039115

>>5039293
Looks more normal here.

>>5039293
what was his problem?

>>5040846
Spasms

>gargoyles are vulnerable to petrify
Makes no sense.

>>5040892
>Makes no sense
Yeah, that is pretty dumb. Gargoyles should be immune or at least warded against Earth source attacks.

>>5040846
No problems.