/vr/ - Retro Games

Not the kikel because I'm not Jewish.

Cross

>>4941536
I switched to Nintendo style a few years ago. I find it more intuitive with each symbol having specific meaning.

Before internet, X, and would find it strange having to press O in MGS

After it though? The other way around is more natural to me.

Bottom line though is it doesn't matter, mentally speaking there's no absolute right or wrong, just what the game decided to use

With X as the action button, I could never remember whether circle or square was cancel.

the power button

>>4941536
either

>>4941583
I took my PS to grandma's on xmas morning and my cousin was screeching at me that I need to "exit" before shutting it off.

I was amazed it could also play music CDs. That kind of dual functionality from a game console was unheard of to me at the time.

>>4941536

O since its the internationally accepted sign for ON

x = cancel

If it's 1998, it's X for confirm and Triangle for cancel.

I press square for spreadsheet in Square game

>>4941670
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

https://arblueclean.com/knowledgebase/what-do-the-o-and-symbols-mean-on-the-power-switch/

I've been playing PSP and it fluctuates constantly between which is which.

>>4941720
"peace sign" originally meant nuclear disarmament

>>4941536
O= Ok/Open/On/Generally a hole in which you may "go", etc
X= crossed out, covered, blocked, generally "incorrect", etc

>>4941732
Its actually an inverted Life Rune, popularized by Jewish Communist actors in the United States.,

circle should've been green, cross should've been red
fucking idiots screwed it up from day 1
>>4941689
this should've been the opposite too, circle means complete circuit, line means incomplete circuit

>>4941752
open, closed?
zero, one?

>>4941752
When did Japan get blue and green? They didn't always have them as separate colors.

>>4941591
>amazed that a cd player could play CDs
segacd also that functionality a year or so earlier. for some people that WAS their audio cd player, they didnt or couldnt afford a stand-alone one.

>>4941752
Um, a closed circle would be useless. A circuit needs two ends to attach to positive and negative. Hence.

>>4941776
Do you know what sir kwee even is?

X because it's on the bottom (which makes it "easier" to press) and you confirm things more than you negate

>>4941906
This. I never got why the SNES had B at the bottom.

>>4941720
The upside down cross is the symbol of St. Peter

>>4941925
The A button is to the right of the B button, same as on the NES. Japs read right to left. The real question is why X and Y are above A and B.

>>4941942
>The A button is to the right of the B button, same as on the NES. Japs read right to left.
Then just place the B button where the Y button is. They simply fucked up, there's no way around it.

its all about that ntsc-j circle.

>>4941676
This.

>>4941536
Well, I'm American, and most likely not playing on a Nintendo console, so unless I'm playing a Japanese imported game, I press X.

>>4941536
X unless it's MGS or a Square game

>>4941561
>I switched to Nintendo style
>I find it more intuitive with each symbol having specific meaning.

wot

>>4944385
Circle is Japanese checkmark or "Ok", X is crossing out like we do, square is spreadsheet, triangle is perspective lines.

It's just maru/batsu dichotomy. Batsu (as shown here with crossed arms) is often used for dame (no go, you can't etc).

Super simple shit if you ever been to Japan or seen an actual living Japanese person.

>>4944407
but X stands for AXXXction

In retrospect, swapping X and O for primary buttons didn't make much sense, even for a western market.

>>4944427
Wasn't it because a prototype had them switched?

>>4941576
>square was cancel.
this never happened

>>4941536
Circle. Although obviously
>circle is OK on Japanese games
>cross is OK on non-Jap games and ports from Japan

>>4944439
I think Crash Team Racing or Crash Bash had square as cancel in the main menu. Not sure though.

>>4941536
X. Feels natural, since the thumb is typically already resting on it.

>>4941536
I press the lower button in the middle, I don't care what's written on it.

>>4941760
>for some people that WAS their audio cd player, they didnt or couldnt afford a stand-alone one
PS2 was a -lot- of people's only DVD player including me for like 5 years

>>4945760
>easily wins the pervious generation
>backwards compatible to huge library
>system cost the same as a stand alone dvd player
>play dvds

How can white Dreamcast even compete?

>>4945834
I don't think anyone thinks Sega could have ever beat the PS2. The discussion is instead focuses on how Sega could have done to survive the 6th generation to make a 7th gen console.

>>4941742
No, the peace symbol is supposed to be the top down silhouette of a B-52 bomber, which at that time was the main delivery vehicle for nuclear weapons.

>>4941942
>Japs read right to left
Japanese words are read left to right or vertically top to bottom.

>>4945947
This guy never reads manga.

>>4946010
Manga pages are read from right to left, but the text itself is not.

>>4946010
>>4946031
When written vertically (as is usually the case with manga), Japanese text is read from top to bottom and the columns go in a right to left order. When written horizontally, it's read left to right and top to bottom just like in English.

>>4941720
>>4941742
take your dementia pills, grandpa. stop sending me these chain emalis

>>4944407
ok so the x being at the bottom (where the main action button was and has been on every console before and since) is bad design

>>4941720
>>4941742
Are you one of those neocon parents who wouldn't let their kids play Pokemon?

>>4946062
Why the hell would they do it that way? Just pick one.

>>4946193
There was only one previous mainstream console with a bottom button.

>>4946206
chinks are dumb

>>4946240
Wrong slur, wrong stereotype. Learn to racism properly if you're going to do it.

>>4946262
t. xing ling

>>4944392
whoa.

>>4946216
And a lot of SNES games used B to confirm and Y to cancel.

>>4946204
No, I was just demonstrating the weird cultural associations that get put onto simple symbols. I'd let my kids play Megaten if that was what's popular, I'm sitting here watching my five year old play Fortnite as I type this. When it comes to mythology I want them to take it all with a grain of salt - Christianity included.

>>4941536
Live and die by the X, fuck your O's!

>>4948153
If you enjoy Hugo Weaving, watch Cloud Atlas

>>4941536
The ones that does what that function. Is it really that hard?

I played a few non-localized games from Japan and the circle button was always confirm and X was always cancel.

Depends on the game. If it's an RPG I'd like "Confirm/Action" to be X and Cancel to be O. But if I'm playing a platformer I'd rather it be more like a Nintendo setup with X to be Jump and Square to be the Action button.

If X is Jump and also used for progressing through text boxes and whatnot it's not a big deal, but O as Confirm doesn't make a ton of sense for an action game because your resting hand position won't be right on O. Obviously I'm speaking abstractly about the buttons and making no judgement on what the actual letters represent; you could switch what's on the face of the buttons easily.

It never presented a real issue in any game that I can remember, but if we're just speaking analytically, using O for anything you need to get to quickly doesn't make a ton of sense.

>>4946216
The A button on the Genesis controller is at the bottom and is used for confirm in most games.

>>4948297
That's left, not down. The top row wasn't standard.

>>4941536
Depends if you play Western or Japanese titles.

>>4941689
This is not related to (O)OK and NO(X)

>>4941689
>this should've been the opposite too, circle means complete circuit, line means incomplete circuit
Circle with line inside is complete circuit, circle with a line through it means broken circuit. That's the global standard. I and O are just the dummy versions.

>>4941536
Circle

>>4948171
>not "The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert"
Do you even kinematographiqué?

>>4941536
X because O means cancel in my brain