/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[07-25] Brutal Doom adds in a flamethrower for whatever reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CdCKx7Dd7I&ab_channel=SGtMarkIV

[07-25] Colorful Hell updates to 0.942
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1065240#p1065240

[07-23] Public release of Clusterfuck, a Complex Doom add-on
https://mega.nz/#F!GdsVnKyY!tBahBv35NujhwVpUxAkpDQ

[07-23] Fan-made PBR pack released for Doom 64 Retribution, also compatible with Consolation Prize counterpart
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=61399

[07-19] Redneck Rampage source port in RedneckGDX is now in early development
https://youtu.be/O3CtVzcr_Pg

[07-19] Anon wants some DarkXL things in news post
http://xlengine.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1062&sid=f969982a628c5402743c2964c3390605
https://github.com/luciusDXL/XL-Engine
https://www.gamepressure.com/download.asp?ID=62915

[07-17] Ion Maiden to have a multiplayer beta coming later this year, may lead to proper EDuke32 multi as well
http://www.ionmaiden.com/

[07-12] BloodGDX Multiplayer update released
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/bloodgdx-blood-port-to-javas-libgdx-framework-with-opengl-support-now-supports-classic-multiplayer/

[07-14] Doom 64 for Doom 2 released, a vanilla reimagining of D64 maps
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/92901-doom-64-for-doom-ii-released/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f2vBW9GMZU

[07-10] Leonard's vacation in hell, a WIP mod that brings Redneck Rampage weapons to Doom
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=61240&sid=e56278bdcf25f27e5b882e52a3d9cc70

[07-09] REKKR has finally released
http://manbitesshark.com/

[07-09] Compendium, a GZDoom merger of 54 older wads with Dehacked code replaced with ACS/Decorate
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=61211

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Any other modern games similar to Doom 2016?

>>4932417
Never played Painkiller but people say Nu-Doom is quite similar in some capacity. Depending on what aspects of the game you like, consider Metroid Prime as well.

installed legendoomlite, colourful hell and champions, wish me luck in my quest

Why Knee Deep in the Dead is so beloved by Doom fans? I think it's a rather monotonous episode with no true outstanding levels like E2M2, E2M7 or E3M3.

>>4932437
Is it? I never hear the episode mentioned, it's always the hell stuff

>>4932437
I thought E2 was the most boring, monotonous, uneventful, annoying one with no memorable levels outside of the boss fight at the end because it's the first time you fight the cyberdemon. And everytime I think of E3 all I can think of are annoying teleports and messy unintuitive levels.

I literally bought a Monster Zero just now because of the meme

I kinda like it

>>4932448
Doomworld is all about hating Sandy Petersen. Sigh, it's getting boring.

>>4932463
Sandy levels are complete shit besides Dead Simple, which was fucking awesome

>>4932463
>Sigh
but why all the sandy hate?

>>4932465
wasn't that one made by American?

>>4932474
Looks like it was both of them

Daily reminder, Doom 3 wasn't as bad as people make it out to be.

>>4932459
>look for it in local supermarket
>can't find it
>2 days later dream that i'm wearing the boomer glasses
is this a prophecy?

>>4932487
It's an ok game on its own, but it's a very bad doom game.

is there a way of selecting sectors in the upper view and then change to perspective and keep the sectors selected in gzdoom builder bf?

>start HD for the first time
>sprint for 30 seconds
>start dying fast
wow so real, glad you guys recommended this one

Any good wolfendoom-esque mapsets to go along with Bratwurst?

>>4932497
Its not called Gorgeous Creator for a reason anon

>>4932487
I tried replaying it a year ago and it's even worse than I remember, the level design is sooooo linear and corridor-tastic it's embarrassing, what is this, Final Fantasy XIII? The guns feel like shit, especially the shotgun. All in a slow paced game that fails as a horror game since it isn't scary and fails as an action game.

any mods that are like overwatch mixed with brutal doom?

Any good Doom channel on YouTube or twitch?

>>4932437
E2 is the best d1 ep. Maybe e4, but it feels off to me, since it was made so much later.

>>4932527
I like kegan and terms dev streams, if you're into that sort of thing. There's Doom mod madness on YouTube.

some people said to me E1 is the only thing worth playing out of doom1/2
why do they think that when there's no plasma gun, bfg, ssg and all the cool enemies?

What's causing this? I'm playing on GZD 3.4.1 as well as with Golden Souls 2 1.3.

>>4932538
I think it requires doom 2...

>>4932527
42%health
stronki

>>4932527
i like KingDime, he streams a few games that aren't doom though

>>4932540
Oh, duh. I was playing REKKR before, which of course requires Doom 1. Whoopsie. Thanks for pointing out my mistake.

>>4932527
Check out AltimaMantoid on youtube. He plays a shitload of doom and has great commentary for all of them. He also did Go2It UV 100% from pistol start with no BFG on his first try which is still insane no matter how many times I see it.

>>4932425
I've been using that and its a fun ride. I hope you can find other enemy mods that work with those three.

>>4932523
No, and I'm glad there aren't.

>>4932487
not retro

>Clusterfuck, a Complex Doom add-on

But Complex Doom is already a clusterfuck?

>>4932595
that's not a question, anon
that's a statement

>>4932527
ICARUSLIV3S is a good one

>>4932465
>never played Monster Condo and Spirit World
Saying Sandy's maps are shit is a total ignorance. You should be banned from /vr/.

>>4932636
not based and /v/pilled

>fucking crosboarding /v/irgins shitting on sandy dungeony levels

>>4932459
>>4932492
https://youtu.be/59606pMuC90

>>4932417
Painkiller my man

>>4932487

>>4932653
>Boom
>not Yoom

>just tried to set up a R6 server
>failed miserably
any FPS with an active multiplayer? or is it just DOOM?

>>4932669
not retro, but CoD WaW is healthy and cancer free when you find correct servers

Holy shit, 10/10 thread title.

>>4932417
Shadow Warrior 2013, kinda.

Would it be a good idea to do a stream of myself going through all the episodes in wolfenstein 3d with "arcade" like rules, wich means no saving in any level, and if i game over i have to start the entire episode over again

>>4932687
>Would it be a good idea to do a stream of myself
No

>>4932687
Maybe if you're good and playing on Death Incarnate.

Repostan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BhbYD65VWo
No, seriously. I could use some feedback. So far all I've got Is "It's not Complex Doom -- so it sucks."

>>4932437
E1 is good, but I find I enjoy E2 and E3 far more.

>>4932689
I could've worded it better desu.

>>4932692
I am semi-good and I'll go through it in Death Incarnate

>>4932702
Fuck im retarded I should've writted to be honest and not desu fUCK

>>4932693
>The pinnacle of Doom modding
What is this series about, anyway?

>>4932705
>newfag didnt get the memo about S.mh t.bh and f.am being filtered

>>4932693
now I want to see a doom mod that makes all the doom monsters spam ADADADADAD whenever they see you

Is there any gameplay mod with a weapon based on this?

>>4932693
that video makes it look like a massive amount of fun, so i'll try it out now

>>4932448
Really? I love the darker atmosphere and weird and twisting environments.

>E2M1
Pretty plain, admittedly, but it's an M1. There's a few neat secrets here if you know where to look.
>E2M2
One of the best levels in the game IMO, Sandy Petersen takes the misguided semi-realism Tom Hall thought he was supposed to pursue, and makes for an environment that's more quasi-realistic, but with lots of weird and fantastical elements.
>E2M3
Admittedly, the damaging floors are a bit annoying, but mostly I think it's fun.
>E2M4
A sprawling level full of weird and interesting layouts and setups. Has a bit of that quasi-realism of E2M2 going.
>E2M5
Lots of secrets in this map, including a secret exit. I enjoy the exploration aspect of it.
>E2M9
Concept level. Not actually that great IMO, but at least it's brief, and you can get out of there with full health and armor, and lots of rockets.
>E2M6
Dark and spooky as fuck, also disorienting, if there's any part of Doom that really gets that horror aspect, then it's this level. The wooden labyrinth is disorienting and crawling with dangerous demons, you feel the urge to avoid it, but you have to go in there to get the key to leave. Lots of tricks and traps.
>E2M7
One of my favorites, this does a lot of what made E2M2 good in my opinion (exploration and warped quasi-realism), it's a large map that serves as a nice lead-up for the end of the episode.
>E2M8
Actually kind of plain and not that interesting, the first time the Cyberdemon may come off as rather imposing, but he isn't actually used in a particularly thoughtful way, dodging him is easy. At least he looks badass.

The music and texture choices I think are overall pretty great, and serve the episode well.

>>4932706
>What is this series about, anyway?
>The pinnacle of Doom modding
Mods that offers the best varied/chaotic gameplay possible. Which means, lots of demons attacking you at once that does not ruin the "run and gun" nature of the game while at the same time oferring varied types of vanilla-friendly weapons. Maybe I should rename the package to something less obnoxious -- like "Chaos on hell" or something like that.
>>4932712
Ironically enough, that is pretty much the idea behind all new demons -- to make em sound like "real" players... dodging, teleporting... dodgind some more. Etc.
>>4932719
Thank you, sir. Have fun.

>>4932478
It's pretty much an American level. The concept is Sandys though.

>>4932463
It's tired and stupid.

>>4932465
Hey, HEY! Fuck you, alright? Fuck you.

>>4932664
wut, is this real?

>>4932463
Only scrubs hate Sandy man.

>>4932741
It doesn't even have the ring. Can't be real

Muh gimmicky Sandyshit could work but he needs someone else to make his concepts actually fun to plan

>>4932469
Because when making Doom 2, Romero was high off his ego, and frequently absent from work, meaning that Sandy Petersen, their main mapper, had to pick up his slack to fill the level count, and this would sometimes get rushed.
So Doom 2 has a lot of maps of his, and a bunch of them aren't exactly golden, but they're not all shit either.

Mind that this guy made like half of all the maps for Doom and Doom 2.

>>4932487
It's not a bad game. It's not perfect either, I can think of a lot to improve, but it's not shitty.

>>4932751
>The Virgin Sandy George RR Martin looking nigga
>The Chad Make You His Bitch Romero

>>4932741
>>4932746
its real
http://www.eeggs.com/items/52530.html

>>4932753
curently playing through Perfected Doom 3. I have some qualms with it but I am curiou to hear what you would improve if possible.

how do I make an elevator in GZDoombuilder? in the tutorials they use the lift action but the only thing I found was to lower the floor to the nearest floor

>>4932754
Sandy has more kids (and grandkids) than Romero does, and in one marriage, as opposed to the dozen failed ones of Romero.

Nothing personal against Romero, but Sandy is pretty chad.

>>4932768
That is better but hey I'm just some shitposter who played Doom 1 for the first time a few nights ago, what do I know

>>4932726
E2M4
one of my fav levels of all time
whole level is pretty dark, barons can wander large areas and catch you like a baseball coming around a corner
the music was also a unique track and is also one of my fav

E2M6
E2M7
Two of the best levels in vanilla doom1/2
Tunnel cramped aesthetic to it and not knowing whats wandering around.
At least E2M2 was pretty open, and there were no Barons from my recollection.

E2M9
Literally a Dead Simple in doom1.

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>>4932764
Too much fucking steel. I'd use more concrete slabs, plastic linings, etc. Also put in some carpeting here and there, and the occasional wood furniture. Probably also use more paint and coloring to make areas more distinct.
I quite like the hell levels.

I'd change up the weapons too, the chainsaw should be available earlier in the game (even if as a secret), the pistol should, to make up for its shit damage, be able to fire as fast as you can click, the shotgun should have a much tighter spread, so you don't have to use it as a fucking contact weapon to make it useful at all.
The subgun should fire in quick 3rd bursts, to set it apart from the chaingun, which should be able to feed from one continuous belt and fire twice as fast, to balance it, either maybe make it build up heat from a lot of sustained fire and it having to slow down or even stop once it gets really hot, or make some stronger enemies and bosses resistant (but not immune) to it's bullets.
I'd change the bounce behavior of the grenade, and the throwing and other physics, because it's such a fucking awkward weapon to use that always seems to bounce exactly how you don't want it. I'd also just put it on a quick button, rather than have it be selectable as its own individual weapon.
The plasma gun is actually quite fine, as is the BFG.
I'd change the firing sounds on the shotgun, subgun and rocket launcher.
The flashlight should just be done like in BFG edition: a Half-Life style charge and you can toggle it with a command, shining from over your shoulder.

I'd then color up the monsters some, to make them more visually distinct, I'd make a few of them a little more aggressive, and I'd probably have the Cyberdemon fight redone completely. Otherwise, the other bossfights aren't bad.

>>4932768
>you will never annoy your grandchildren with funny stories about Romero's ego and Karmack's autism

>>4932758
>They removed two minigames from the BFG edition

>>4932816
SOULLESS

Compendium is fucking awesome. I love the idea of having 54 wads in once map. Are there any more wads like this for singleplayer wads?

>>4932842
BFG edition is peak SOULESS

>>4932847
12-in-1, there's a bunch of zandronum servers that use it.

Wait, does this mean shock sites are canon in the Doom universe?
How would the demons react at Goatse?

>>4932860
have you ever SEEN a cacodemon? they do the goatse with NO HANDS

>>4932860
>Wait, does this mean shock sites are canon in the Doom universe?
what

>>4932860
Just shut up.

>>4932863
if this is the PBR sprite...

can someone please teach me how to make the doom 64 texture pack only I found here to work?

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/91854-v14a-doom-64-retribution/

I cant get them to mother fucking work
I tried everything
I just want my vanilla doom maps to look like doom 64 maps is it too mother fucking much to ask

>>4932889
>downloads a zip file full of things
>extracts it and tries to load a single wad from the archive

nigga just load the zip file itself, it'll be fine.

>havent used zandronum in a year
>come back to this shit
what do i do?

>>4932909
Upgrade.
https://zandronum.com/downloads/zandronum3.0-win32-installer.exe

>>4932908
i tried both
it doesnt fucking work either way

>>4932448
E2 has much more sprawling & complex level design than E1.

Had a dream last night that there was a Doom mod from 2011 that was very similar to Adventures Of Square. The textures & general design were similarly cartoony, and the protag even made one-liners. However the creator put it behind a Patreon (I don't think that even existed back then, but dream logic) and never even finished it, so it never got the recognition it could've. Sad!

>>4932693
Oh, and for the sake of "How chaotic this mod can be"... here's a video showing off what happens if there's 10 dynamic spawners present in a small room. (i.e the "chaos maker", per se"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cITnDuqbE74
You can summon it with "summon dynamicspawner", btw -- if you feel like going a little "beyond" of what this mod can offer.

>>4932889
that file is a resource wad meant to be used to make doom 64-themed maps. you can't actually play using it.

what you do want though, is this:
https://allfearthesentinel.net/zandronum/download.php?file=sd64texpack.pk3

https://streamable.com/bt9aj
These effects are clearly excessive, but... damnit, I love them.

>>4932954
>that file is a resource wad meant to be used to make doom 64-themed maps. you can't actually play using it.


I downloaded
http://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-64-retribution/downloads/doom-64-retribution-version-14a and I can play it just fine.

If the other guy can't run it by just dragging the zip file onto gzdoom.exe he's probably using an outdated version.

I destroyed the unholy abomination

>>4932963
this guy
>>I just want my vanilla doom maps to look like doom 64 maps is it too mother fucking much to ask
That means he just wants a texture replacement wad. The link i provided does just that. The doomworld thread he linked contained a texture-only resource wad.

>>4932954
omg thank you anon..
bless you so fucking much..
I have been looking for something like that for literal AGES..
I love you SO MUCH
where did you find it?

>>4932963
>>4932908
you are beyond fucking retarded
please, just commit sudoku for the sake of humanity never pass on your genes

Any news about the PBR stuff for classic doom and hexen/heretic?

XARL's PBR Texture for Doomsday kinda works on the latest version of GZD

>>4932753
>>4932764
>>4932802
Are any of you using RBDoom3BFG with the ungibbable mod and Doom 3 BFG Hi Def Mod?

>>4932968
fucking why?

>>4932982
If I'm retarded, why does it work?

>>4932693
>I could use some feedback.
What do you want us to say? For something that's "the pinnacle of Doom modding", it looks like just a whole bunch of unrelated shit crammed together, like Aeons of Death without the good coding or fun weapons.

>>4932968
Why'd you do that for? It may not be an excellent port, but it's arguably playable, and the fact that it runs at all is kind of an achievement.

>>4932995
>>4933012
why play it on the SNES when i have chocolate doom?

>>4932968
Why not destroy a port that actually deserves it, like the Saturn version, or the fucking 3DO version. The SNES version may not run that well, but it's on a freaking SNES, even if it is using an extra chip it's kind of impressive.

>>4933006
>it looks like just a whole bunch of unrelated shit
>a bunch
Well... have you seen flying poneys, or piggies, or dragons... or some other "true unrelated shit" in the gameplay video? Yeah, me neither. Unless you are calling traps and multicolored demons as "unrelated shit"... then I'm sorry, I can't help you. You'd be better playing vanilla, if that's the case.

>>4932954
anything like this but for the weapons and sound or am i missing something?

>>4932968
Well that's pretty fucking stupid.

>>4932693
Have you ever seen the mod "Aeons Of Death"?

>>4932968
at least salvage that superfx chip for a starfox 2 bootleg or something you fucking prick

>>4933015
Well, fair enough, I guess, but does that necessitate destroying it?

>>4933018
The 3DO version may run worse than the SNES version, but at least it has a cool recorded soundtrack that we can listen to without playing that version.

>>4932968
I don't believe you. I think you found an already broken version. Or you're a massive cunt.

>>4932968
I see no point in trashing a cart when you can scam some dumb collector out of 20 bucks

>>4933034
aka "Doom with everything -- including Duke Nukem 3D". What about it?

>>4932924
E2M2, E2M6 and E2M7 alone are better than anything from that Homero bitch.

>>4933015
Why destroy it? The cart looks cool.

>>4933048
I'm just saying the "randomizer with a bunch of crazy shit" idea has been done many times.

>>4933034
Aeons Of Death is the equivalent of using every single ingredient and spice in your house and the food turns into an inedible mess, crusting so hard in your frying pan that it can't be salvaged and must be tossed.

>>4932968
if you all dont stop whining imma do a yoshie's island cart next

>>4932968
You might just be a vain piece of shit looking for attention by pretending to be a low-level sociopath.

>>4933061
Do it, bitch.

>>4933061
That's not Doom, so I don't care.
Do it, faggot no balls.

>>4933049
MAP08, MAP10, and MAP16 too
I like that sandy was more willing to play around with different ideas, rather than sticking to a set of rules that ended up making a bunch of samey maps
E4M2 and E4M6 are the only romero maps that stand out in my mind, and even then it's mostly E4M2

>>4933053
Not when the randomizer actually uses its new monsters as a complement. Or when it constantly throws monsters at you -- at all times.
Then again, like I said previously -- the idea behind "The pinnacle of Doom modding" (Which is a retarded name, I know... and I really should name it to something else, heh.) is to offer the best varied "run-and-gun" chaotic experience possible... out of traps, environment changes, etc. Which is really different of what AoD offers -- which is (only) new monsters replacing vanilla monsters.

>>4933069
I don't think E1 is bad though.

>>4932968
shove this /b/ and /r9k/ shit up your ass and fuck off

fucking kids

>>4933069
>Map08
utter shit

>Map16
yeah, those "city" maps in Doom 2.

>>4933040
>when you don't have time to implement a MIDI driver so you get the CEO and his garage band record the tracks for you.

http://nintendoage.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Element.View&egID=39296&lgID=39296&sID=39296

>Rarity
>Cart: Very Common

Whew, big loss.

Call me when someone destroys a Mr. Gimmick cart.

>getting the invisibility sphere turns the pistol graphic transparent and you can see the magazine and ammo inside
I like that. Doom, Receiver and, in a way, Gun Disassembly in one.

>>4933056
Not really, it's extremely playable, weapon tiers make sense, monster replacements make sense. It's just aesthetically inconsistent really, and I couldn't care less about seeing powerslave and duke enemies at the same time. Hell aeod v6 actually lets you filter all enemies to be of from one theme alone and that's the version I like the least, cause it removed a ton of stuff from v5. If I wanted consistency I wouldn't be playing aeons of fucking death, DBT.

>>4933053
>>4933075
What's that other randomizer mod that doesn't care one bit about balance and was basically a terry wad? It was called "Doomlord666's Battleground" or something like that.

should I be worried if plants start growing around me in Hideous Destructor?

>>4933137
Just a side effect of supernatural healing. Purely decoration, nothing to panic about.

This is fucking insanity. No, not Going Down, Going Down with Rebel Rumble. Very limited health + bullet hell arcade design + GD = pure chaos.

>>4933149
stream where?

>>4933026
Reminds me of Doomguy's Warzone but with a little more restraint regarding content aesthetics and matching the setting. Too many graphical effects and too few content of substance. Take less pages out of the books of mods besides DGW, AEOD, CP/LCA/CPCF, and so on and more out of mods like Doomzone, Legendoom, Doom RPG, and so on. Treat monsters as classes rather than things to replace with whatever comes to mind, and the experience will be more engaging imo.

My primary gripe with this style of modding is that once you have infinity bajillion monsters, many of them quickly feel the same. On top of that, don't make all the enemies just dance around a lot. It'll severely fuck with the flow of maps and in cramped rooms won't do anything but make them hug the walls and make them much easier to fight.

The graphical effects are also extremely tacky. If you want more blood, or explosions, try to make them fit with the aesthetic. Gigantic smoke bombs like this don't, and they clip through walls which makes them look even worse.

On to the good: The optimization is pretty impressive, I'm glad you didn't use 6 MB PNGs for literally every single sprite like most people used to back in the day. I haven't played this so I can't give you my word on how the game as a whole is in action, but based on the design choices I'm seeing in the video, it looks way less "Point out targets of priority in fights and fight accordingly" and more "just hold fire and kill everything that moves," which I mean, is relaxing, so if you're going for that that's totally fine, but if you're looking for an engaging experience, there's far better ways to do it.

Play Doomzone with a couple maps, then ramp it up to the first black difficulty setting. You'll probably see what I mean when I mention engaging gameplay in randomizer wads. You can have fucktons of monsters and weapons, just use them effectively instead of throwing them all at the player. Everyone has done that and played that.

>>4932410
Someone at Doomworld did a PBR demo and tutorial
>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101683-simple-pbr-demo/

if anyone still has the fungus stuff, its time to put to use

>>4933212
>Treat monsters as classes rather than things to replace with whatever comes to mind, and the experience will be more engaging imo.
Every monster in the mod has a purpose to complement each other;and not to "stand out". Which somewhat makes every demon/attack unique, if you consider the chances of engaging a demon (or various) while dodging a bloodslicer and getting your vision blocked by a curtain of fog at the same time.
I mean, sure... I can always add unique attacks to each demon. Which might take a while, tho.
>The graphical effects are also extremely tacky. If you want more blood, or explosions, try to make them fit with the aesthetic. Gigantic smoke bombs like this don't, and they clip through walls which makes them look even worse.
Hm. I agree with you. Don't really know how to answer you this one, honestly... I've got to sit and think about it a bit.
> it looks way less "Point out targets of priority in fights and fight accordingly" and more "just hold fire and kill everything that moves,"
More like, "find a target, keep your aim at it, hope that a suicide bomber doesn't attack you by behind while dodging traps and finding ways out of the curtain of fog so you can properly engage your target." Which is... engaging, right?
>You can have fucktons of monsters and weapons, just use them effectively instead of throwing them all at the player.
Read above.
>Everyone has done that and played that.
I'd gladly eat my words if you show me another mod that follows the same "varied, complementary chaotic gameplay" mentality.
And nope, a randomizer that simply switches vanilla monsters with customs does not count.

Hey guys. Why you still playing boring piksels when an remaster of Doom 2 is already out.

>>4933252
>right handed
Fucking garbage

>>4933240
>i'll gladly eat my words if you show me another mod that follows the same "varied, complementary chaotic gameplay" mentality
mate literally everyone who has made a randomizer wad in their lives has said this shit. Off the top of my head; AEOD, Doomguy's Warzone, Insanity Doom, Grezzo 2, and Classic Rivalry. DGW is shit, AEOD is bloated as fuck but fun, Grezzo 2 is shit but shocking and also hilarious, hence why everyone remembers it and not the first, Insanity Doom is basically OMGWeapons meets OMGMonsters; fun but very basic, and Classic Rivalry is a steaming turd of incompetent coding and game design.

>More like, "find a target, keep your aim at it, hope that a suicide bomber doesn't attack you by behind while dodging traps and finding ways out of the curtain of fog so you can properly engage your target." Which is... engaging, right?
This is like saying playing L4D2 with just hordes of common infected and nothing else is engaging, because of some reason like "Keep your aim on your target, and hope you don't get surprise attacked by enemies from behind while some tertiary visual effect that serves as artificial difficulty comes in."

My point was not that the demons don't have unique attacks. It's that they all fill the same purpose. There's better ways to handle random monster spawns than just throwing 99 bullshitllion monsters in a spawn slot. Let's say you have three melee enemies that charge. One goes quickly and does a little damage, one goes average for both, and the other goes slowly but does a lot more damage. What's the difference between them at the end of the day? They're charging melee enemies.

Why have so many suicide bombers? They're not necessarily a core mechanic, just an annoyance. It turns levels into constant arenas without any of the strategy or skill involved. If you want Serious Sam but with more monsters, just go mod for that instead; it's probably way easier and has a larger audience.

>>4933240
Forgot to add:
Believe me when I say this, you are not the first to make this kind of mod, you will not be the last, and you are not original. One of the first things people did when they found out how to replace monster spawns was make wads like this. When they found out how to make roaming "directors" like L4D has for example, this is stuff they started doing. I'm not going to discourage you from making your wad, but I'm definitely going to discourage you for thinking you're original for it. Everyone and their mother has not only seen this, but it was probably their first project too.

>>4933252

>>4933026
>Well... have you seen flying poneys, or piggies, or dragons... or some other "true unrelated shit" in the gameplay video?
Just because you didn't go monkeycheese with the roster doesn't make it okay.

>>4933272
Seconding this. You've got a consistent...ish art style, that's a good thing, but what does this offer from the millions of other randomizer wads?

>>4933260
>mate literally everyone who has made a randomizer wad in their lives has said this shit.
In other words:"You are bullshitting". Okay, sure.
>This is like saying playing L4D2 with just hordes of common infected and nothing else is engaging
I gave you three/four examples of different situations and intakes that can happen ingame and you compared em to a... simple infected? Then it looks like it's a "you" issue rather than a "Your mod is shit" issue, anon. I'm sorry.
>My point was not that the demons don't have unique attacks.
And my point is that there's more than simple "bajillions of demons". It's like you are skipping everytime I mention the word "trpas", "suicide bombers", "curtain of fog". Hell, there's even status effects added into the mixx -- and that's definitely not a "simple infected."
>Why have so many suicide bombers?
They exist to give you a "surprise" feel to the game. To make the player always pay attention to its surroundings -- even while killing demons altogether. Again, the purpose is to complement;and not to stand out.
>>4933262
>Believe me when I say this, you are not the first to make this kind of mod, you will not be the last, and you are not original.
I never said that I'm original or the first, but... sure.
>>4933274
>what does this offer from the millions of other randomizer wads?
Hm. 'kay, I'll record a video about it. Sec.

>>4933279
>It's like you are skipping everytime I mention the word "trpas", "suicide bombers", "curtain of fog".
traps sounds obnoxious
suicide bombers sounds extra obnoxious
curtain of fog blinding your vision to incoming projectiles sounds like fake difficulty

>>4933274
You could say that for any weapon mod or monster mod. All randomizer wads I've seen have wildly different monsters, weapons and items.

>>4933279
>traps
done by AEOD, DGW, CR. I cannot stress this enough: This has been done before over and over again.

>suicide bombers
you're fucking with me right

>status effects
HXRTC_PROJECT_GOLDEN_EDITION. Granted, that one's pretty fun. It's got more substance to it than just "lol uhhh pure chaos XD"

>three/four examples of different situations
No. You gave me "two examples" that are literally a staple of Doom's gameplay. That's like counting pressing a button as an example of the "amazing" gameplay your wad offers. Suicide bombers are nothing new (and you literally just ripped it from Realm667 anyways so you should know they aren't at all original) and the random smoke isn't really contributing to the gameplay. It's just an added thing that serves as artificial difficulty without any real value to it. If you kite the enemies outside of the smoke, it's no longer an issue. If you're in a situation where you can't see or escape because of the smoke and monster hordes, it's cheap, and also unfair, which isn't engaging either.

What's surprising about the game shitting out suicide bombers? That's like saying Lost Souls are a surprise element because they can come from Pain Elementals. You're just gonna get used to them after like two maps tops.

I said it was unoriginal and done to death because you boast by calling it the "pinnacle of doom modding" when it's literally one of the most generic randomizer wads you could possibly make.

So if the only things you have separating it from other randomizer wads are...smoke...? I wouldn't boast about this shit at all.

>>4933287
Not true at all. A good majority of them boil down to either reusing Realm667 assets, or slightly editing them.

>>4933263
not him but i think its time for some good PBR stuff
the Hexen/Heretic ones for Doomsday are kinda neat and arent stupid as the Deviantart tier shit on Zd forums
>http://talk.dengine.net/discussion/1944/hexen-high-quality-textures

>>4933295
I don't hate PBR. On the contrary, I want some finalized packs for the games and Doom specifically to come out. But slapping HD textures and shitty 3D models into the game doesn't fix or improve anything.

Plus i'm pretty sure it was that russian dumbfuck that made the lowpoly pack.

>>4933285
>b-but that's annoying!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLT2erau3zo
>>4933294
>y-you are not unique!
Again, I never said that I am unique or a special snowflake. But it seems that you are enjoying parroting it for some reason... so whatever makes you happy, anon.

>>4933304

>>4933306
>dodging literally every single point I just made in favor of misconstruing one I just explained
Why are you being a pompous faggot?

Can we just... calm down, talk about Doom, and stop yelling at eachother for once? These threads have been so angry lately.

>>4933310
enjoy your ban you underage shit

>>4933317
been that way in nearly every thread for years.

>>4933318
faggot backseat jannie

>>4933274
>what does this offer from the millions of other randomizer wads?
There you go, sir.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84S9MD4hbXc
And before you pull me another "you are not unique"... the purpose is not to be "unique";but to offer a "varied same shit" experience. Also, don't forget that there's a spawner with a chance to drop each of those... or even em all at the same time. Which makes it... "different".

>>4933343
It offers...smoke. That's all it has over the other wads. Why should I play this over OMGWeapons and Monsters?

Well shit, I think I found myself a Samsara add-on worthy of the name Samsara. https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=61431

>>4933347
>All I've seen is smoke out of it
welp. 'kay, then.

>>4933351
You've spawned some monsters and entities. I'm not interested in what you can specifically spawn individually. How does it actually look and play without you manipulating shit? Unless you mean to tell me the blob of monsters that you just look in the direction of, hold shoot, and turn for the occasional flanking like Serious Sam is your "pinnacle of doom modding."

Look what russian vasyans have made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAIimL8hfpA

>>4933354
>14 minute video for a map with 30 second par time
lmao no

>>4932410
great picture

>>4933350
>Still no Unreal prisoner
Still an impressive trailer, nonetheless

>tfw map 17 from doom 64 and map 2 from ps1 doom had the same song

>learning to use GZDoombulder
>just got to 3D floors

what is this sorcery? I was under the impression that this engine could not handle sector over sector and that you had to employ some trickery to create the illusion.

maybe this is another thing entirely instead of advanced devil magicks

>>4933380
Yeah, Doom 64 shared Playstation Doom's sounds and music.

>>4933381
GZDoom isn't Doom per se. It can do 3D floors. It's a bit limited though for practical use. For something like layers of floors in a building you'd probably want to use portals or some such instead.

That's my understanding anyway.

I love the Dead Marine mod. Everything feels so good to shoot. Is there anything similar I could try out?

>>4933389
BURL TUMD
I fucking love that shotgun

>>4933380
They're not quite the same song but they use the same samples. That's why I both love and dislike Aubrey Hodges' music. I love his style, and the songs generally fit their games well, but if you've heard like three of his sample packs you've heard all of his songs.

>>4933382
I know there were different tracks, but these two had the same melody, even if the sounds felt different

>>4933391
That sounds good buddy, I'd like to try it. Would it be okay for you to upload it to mixtape for me? The links I've found are dead.

>>4933381
>>4933386
because GZD is somthing that carmack wanted to do in the 1st place, but then we are stuck with his deadbeat ginger clone.

>>4933369
Noted. Posted a reply about it on the thread.

>>4933402
check the link in the OP, its bundled with the quickstart archive

>>4933410
Oh, okay. Thanks man.

>>4933082
Curious, huh? At least something really cool came out of the port, and the CEO of the company wasn't completely talentless after all (he just shouldn't have been a CEO for a software company).

Neato.

>>4932410
This is so easy, wtf, it's putting me to sleep. It started off cool but it just never picked up. The combat actually got dumber as it went on. Stopped now at map 26 hope the rest of it gets good.

>tfw nothing compares to the Scythes and Ancient Aliens for gameplay
>tfw Ancient Aliens had a gross aesthetic

>>4933423
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3FCRr3t9WU

>>4933425
Try it on a higher difficulty I guess?

>>4933425
>tfw nothing compares to the Scythes
What, being good for the first half of the megawad and then shitting the bed on the second? Quite a few do that.

i wish there it was a proper monster and weapon mod for DiabolousEX

IDTech1, Build Engine, IDTech 2 or GoldSrc?

>>4933431
Playing on uv.

>>4933434
Anon why is your face such an embarrassment to humanity and why is dog shit mint for your breath?

I one shotted the icon of sin in trailblazer.

>okay, icon of sin fight, nothin new
>wait I have a jetpack
>zoom
>press 7
>right click
>holy shit it worked
>mfw

Doom 2 the way id did with trailblazer and colorful hell was so much fun.

>>4933441
Now you get to do it again with LegenDoomLite and Champions.

>>4933442
at some point it might as well just be clusterfuck, and I don't like clusterfuck except for once in a while.

>>4933354
that was hilariously stupid. i don't regret the time spent watching it.

>>4932693
>A chaingunner with a gorillion hitpoints that wiggles around
Don't do that. There's nothing fun about a bullet sponge those doesn't do anything other than standard chaingunner behavior with the occasional dodge to side, and stacking a shitload of HP on a monster doesn't make them interesting or difficult.
In fact I'm seeing all you've you got here is a lot of monsters dodging from side to side, or just randomly teleporting.

>>4933343
>monsters that blind you
>monsters that spin you around
Don't do that. If all you can manage is ways to deliberately hinders the player's view or give them motion sickness, then you should reconsider the monster.

>spike traps
What spawns these? Because I can see these becoming obnoxious as all hell.

>tiny mouse that nibbles at you and slows you down
what the everlasting fuck anon. One of the WORST enemy types in any FPS game ever are the small wiggly enemy types that just run right up to you in melee range, all you've done is make it infinitely more annoying by crippling the player's speed. Don't do that.

You're probably new to all of this and inexperienced, and that's fine. A lot of us were like that in the beginning, but I strongly suggest you take a step back and start asking yourself "What can benefit the gameplay of this mod? What's interesting or fun to engage with?"
I also suggest maybe giving the player some new weapons or abilities to help deal with all of this crazy bullshit you're throwing at them, or tone it all way back to make it more vanilla friendly.

>>4933306
yes, it does sound annoying.

good to know you have no rebuttal for it

I still can't resolve my issue of the AI being broken. I'm playing AA wad with ketchup and RO.

Things were going fine and then suddenly this level the AI is just frozen. If I attack them though then they'll attack me but otherwise they just stand there even if I hug up next to them. I tried looking it up but I can't find anything. Anyone know what's wrong?

>>4933438
Build Engine 2.

>>4933461
It sounds like you're stuck in perpetual notarget for some reason, check your ini file for any traces of that shit

>>4933464
Hmm notarget. Okay I'll look for that
Not sure how that could happen.

>>4933304
there's some neat stuff being made, but then there's the russian shit.

and then there's cool russian shit like Dont play with hell and Doom slayer chronicles
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ_6Hc3lA4U

>>4932693
i played it, it's kinda turbo unfun
the weapons feel even shittier than they used to and the enemies are all way too strong

>>4933465
>>4933464
When I typed in notarget on console, it says notarget on so it must not be on and toggling it didn't do anything. I'll have to check the inis now

>>4933462
How much did Build Engine 2 improved over the first one?

>>4933470
I don't think the notarget command affects the +NOTARGET scripting flag
if you can figure out how to replicate it, I'd report the issue to pillowblaster

>>4933461
This shit is dope, what mod(s) am I looking at here?

>>4933484
Ancient Aliens (wad)
Ketchup
Russian Overkill

I was having fun with it until the ai broke on me just almost midlevel

I seriously don't know what's wrong. I checked my inis for notarget didn't find anything.

>>4933489
Hmm I just found an obvious workaround

Restart a new game and "changemap" to the map I was at
I start at pistol start with default health but oh well I can manage

Plinking away with an M1 at a cyberdemon isn't exactly the fastest way to go about it, but it works.

>>4933496
Smile, you son of a bitch!

Been slowly mapping again out of boredom after not touching the editor for a year. Found some of my old maps and the amateur, way-too-ambitious, big adventure map. All unfinished of course. So I've been drawing some new rooms in it whenever I get an idea. Kinda like a big sketchbook full of doodles except it's one big mess of a map. Maybe someone will enjoy this sort of thing when it's done in another year or two
Anyone else making stuff?

>>4933492
Aw yeah that's more like it.
That was such a weird issue. Technically still unsolved I guess.

>>4933503
I think I recognize this map; it was in one of the DUMPs, wasn't it

>>4933492
>>4933504
Someone should tell PB about that.
What was happening exactly when monsters just stopped working?

What the hell is this? A Festivus Pole? I guess it could be a mike stand, it's like some sort of bar and this looked like a stage, but there's no microphone.

>>4933503
Gradually whittling away at my mod, doing some work and changes, then "playtesting" for like the duration of an episode/megawad.

It's probably slower than it has to be, but on the other hand, it also makes testing thorough, I do discover things this way, and learn a lot about what my changes affect.

>>4933456
>It's a (1 out of 10000 chance to spawn) boss that you can simply avoid it if you so desire
>Ways to modify the pace (and grab the player's attention 24/7)
>Don't do that
>>4933469
>typical_call_of_duty_fanboy.jpg
>>4933459
>wahh ur wrong and i dont wanna read noffin u sad u bully
lol

>>4933513
No clue. Most likely tons of carnage. This was the level right before it stopped working. Like 100 imps maybe spawned right there and I turned all of them into a fine red paste.

>>4933518
You're kind of an asshole if your responses to criticism are to basically take a dump over your critics.

>>4933529
>Mostly logical fallacies... or simply ignoring my previous posts
>"Why are you posting like an asshole?"
*shrug

>>4933521
Speaking of turning imps to a fine paste...
God I love this combination of mods

>>4933532
Next up, slaughtermaps.

>>4933541
I tried
Slaughtermaps + RO + ketchup = slideshow
Unless there's someway around it. I suppose not use Ketchup, or RO. But where's the murderous fun in that?

>>4933545
Droplets and Universal Gibs.

>>4932527
Tatsurdcacocaco has some nice gameplay.

>>4933529
He's a redditor, they don't know how to argue

>>4933521
That's a lot of guts!

>>4933552
He's a slick nigga, I occasionally rewatch his (now decade old) run of Hunted.

weird question: whats the most pure, genuine joy you ever got out of a map or gameplay mod?

>>4933521
There has to be a goddamn overwhelming stench of iron in that room, like you'd dry-heave at those levels, unless you've got experience working in a slaughterhouse.
I'm also imagining slipping around on a floor completely slick with blood, like in the lawnmower scene from Braindead.

Can you imagine how many fucking bugs are gonna come buzzing for this shit in enough time? Or how much more awful it's gonna smell once it starts decomposing.
I sometimes like looking over the absolute destruction/messes I make in game and think about what an absolute fucking inconvenience it is and how much work it's gonna take to fix.

>>4933591
Not sure actually, I've enjoyed a lot.
BTSX + A modified version of ATM comes to mind.
Also, Pirate Doom I remember very fondly.

>>4932968
kys nigger

>>4933593
Viscera Cleanup Detail in Doom when.
Just some poor schmuck, whether demon or human, having to clean up the absolute fucking carnage that Doomguy left behind.

>>4931479
Sorry for responding ~22 hours later, but that fixed the problem. Thanks so much.

>>4933518
I don't know where you came from. But you do not belong here. Your mod is massively flawed and poorly thought out, but you're acting as if you're being personally attacked. I suggest trying to make smaller scale stuff first.

>>4933602
Poor that guy

>>4932417

Hard reset isn't too bad.

>>4933610
huhuhuh what an mess

>>4932437

Nostalgia.

It was freeware and one if the few things I could get a hand on as a kid, played it constantly and left quite an impression on me.

>>4933529
>>4933609
He named his mod "The pinnacle of doom modding." He's either Doomguy2000 or a huge cocksucker of his.

>>4933518
>>wahh ur wrong and i dont wanna read noffin u sad u bully
You mean like how you >>4933306 did that to my reply here? >>4933294

>>4933610
Despite not liking the BD style gore all that much, the way stray entrails stick to the floor is a really nice touch, I can't deny it.

>>4933602
>>4933610
>be the last custodian on Earth after the demons invade
>you hear that one marine just tore his way through the forces of Hell that overtook all the cities and kicked Satan's ass
>be there to welcome the hero of humanity
>he turns to you and gives you this fucking look as you realize you're gonna have to clean up his mess

Half-man, half-ass, all dead.

>>4932487

It has fantastic atmosphere, that's all I can give it.

End of the day, FEAR does a horror shooter better.

>>4932812

God I wish I could experience carmack's turbo-autism

>>4932410
Just so ya know, Unreal Engine 4=/=Unity Engine. Thus, I still wait for the day when some indie dev creates and releases at least Episode 1 of DOOM2 via Unity.

so I have this idea for my first map, a basic techbase that is being overrun by flesh tendrils, I decided to begin simple by giving thinking an outline the player will have to take before doing any detail at all, I don't have a clear concept of what would make fun gameplay so Im just trying to figure out interesting encounters.

You begin in the hexagon in the lower left, you take a shotgun from a dead sergeant and look at the end of the corridor, surprise asshole! there's an archvile there and the doors are locked with their respective keycards, you are low on ammo so you have no other option besides heading downstairs to the room on the right.
You try to put as much distance as you can while you take everything that isn't nailed to the floor, there are some low tier enemies on the way so you will have to deal with them or try to rush past them as best you can.

Now the conceit of the map would be gaining access to an armory somewhere where you can gear up properly, deal with the archie and enter the final battle in the big room up north, maybe that will be a hangar of some sort, but that's where my creative juice dries up for now.

>>4933653
Hasn't really got the exploration or gimmicks the good Doom maps have. It needs a bit of spice

>>4933664
as it stands, this is just a couple of rooms strung together, I need to expand the player's path as he escapes the archie, maybe some corridors leading up to an open area, some enclosed spaces that could act as arenas for the each of the keycards and then the return to whats shown in the pic

I want to put a fuck huge spiral of flesh somewhere, but I have no idea how to make that work

You know what to do when the time comes.

>>4933690
FALCON PUNCH!

>>4932459
>>4932653
WHO THE FUCK came up with this terrible-poor tier Boomer meme!?

>>4933690

>>4932676

By cancer are you referring to "tactical only" servers?

Because if so, I agree.

>>4933690
kiss it?
fuck it?

>>4933605
My pleasure, friend. One of these days I should probably make GMOTA's HUD count for statusbar AND fullscreen

>>4933429

What wad?

>>4932863
wtf, I want to fuck a cacodemon now

>>4933763
it doesn't love you

>>4932863
DO NOT

Hey friends I made a Doom 2 map for the first time and I'd like some crit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/202990720288686080/472246750640341012/remcmplx.wad

>>4933807

i think the berserk secret is a little pointless but other than that its well designed and it flows really well

>>4933807
It felt like there wasn't enough ammo to properly 100% it. Didn't have enough by the end to kill the Cyberdemon, so I had to just lure it into a corner and take the lift to the ending quickly. Same problem early on in the yellow key room, I ended up having to just run past everything so that I wouldn't be empty by the end.

One bad thing with Champions is that it doesn't work with JP_HUD. At all.
I can see the health of normal monsters, but not the champion ones.

>>4933829
Also, the blue armor didn't feel very much like a secret, as it was in plain sight. Compared to the rocket launcher, which totally could have been missed if you weren't paying a lot of attention to the automap.

>>4933829
really? the map felt super easy and fun for me, i was on UV and i only ran out of ammo for shotty twice before getting it all back, and ended with an excess
i almost died a few times too, but other than that, it's one of the better user made maps i've played
i didn't look for all the secrets though, but i did find some, like the chainsaw and the invis sphere, both of which came in handy
do some of the secrets have more enemies? your description of the map makes it sound like there was a slaughter map hidden in there somewhere
screenshot is here just to show how much ammo i had left over, they could'a given me much less
this is on UV by the way, before you ask

>>4933913

>>4933913
>The pistol "remastered" to his other hand
Seriously what fuck

>>4933918
>>4933919
if you don't like it, ignoring it
it's easy

>>4933920

>>4933690
brush it?

>>4933807

Pretty decent with a fair few (minor) fixes to make

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtVQ64CyHLc

>>4933690
That was Jason Hall's voice kek.

This level is fuggin spooky.

(Dead Letters for Blood)

EPIC NEW OC I JUST MADE COOL HUH?

>>4933951

>>4933957

>>4933961

we're getting a tom & jerry wad?

>>4933965

hopefuly

>>4933965
...a wad where you play as Jerry and run around a giant house collecting cheese and avoiding Tom. Tom himself would obviously be unkillable, but there could be other small critters as enemies.
That could be a great wad.


Also, plot-wise, you know how T&J are constatly changing owners? Like sometimes they are pets of normal people, or pets of a witch, etc.
Well in this wad they could actually be the pets of the Doomguy!

So which is better, Brutal Doom or Project Brutality?

>>4933973
Neither

>>4933973
Project Brutality by far

>>4933973

Project Brutality

Thanks for the feedback! It's late for me right now so I'll upload a new version of the map when I get a chance to apply some things. Really appreciate it.

>>4933828
Yeah it's a bit pointless given that you don't have many smaller enemies to blow up with your fists. May change it for something else.

>>4933829
I might add more ammo for the cyberdemon fight. Might just end up refactoring it I dunno.

>>4933836
I might make that not a secret but I like to think that since it's tucked in a corner it's not very noticeable. A secret in plain sight, as it were.

>>4933942
Thanks so much for the video! A few points:
- The invis sphere is a secret opened by hitting use on the console in the yellow key room. There's two other consoles that open up secrets. Might change this. Will definitely set up the single-sided linedef like you said.

- The music does get a bit repetitive. Will change it out.

- I should've mentioned the engine, definitely. I tested it on both Chocolate Doom and Doom Retro.

- The flaming barrel room fight didn't go how I imagined it. The idea was that you get a chance to ambush the monsters in the room, but a caco spawns behind you, so you panic and run into the room and start a fight. The problem is is that smart players will back out and force the enemies into a bottleneck, which is both completely valid and totally not what I intended. I'll probably remove the caco entirely and try some other method for goading the player inside.

- Loved your reaction to both the mancubi and the brown barrel room. Latter definitely needs something, though, so I'll probably add some extra decorations or something.

- Cyberdemon arena's going to get reworked. Might go back and play E2M8 again or something. Any suggestions for WADs with good smallish Cyberdemon arenas for me to crib from?

Again, thanks to everyone for the crit!

>>4933969
>Tom himself would obviously be unkillable
What about death by guillotine?

>>4933695
Your guess is as good as ours

All this wojak shit is awful

Someone posts a wojack picture, 99% chance they add nothing to the conversation

>>4933973
Project B

Any links for Jaguar Doom with emulator all set and ready to go? Pretty interested in American's remakes of the vanilla Doom maps.

What are some mods/wads with custom monsters done well?

>>4934000
Project MSX

>>4934000
Unloved
Wrath of Cronos

>>4933223
here is OG pic if you wanna use it yourself

>>4934000
Alkylation

>>4933834
It works with targetspy. Use that instead.

>>4933985
>guillotine
does it go?

https://streamable.com/nj580
get in nerds we're going tau cannon BFG jumping.

when actual ammo consumption is put in, each unit of 'charge' will be one cell, it caps at 40 units of charge, and the amount of projectiles it fires/the recoil it produces is completely dependent on the amount of units used, the changing of the charging/firing animations is more cosmetic than anything.

TL:DR if you fully charge this, it uses 40 cells and launches 40 projectiles, sort-of-but-not-really like the vanilla bfg-spray.

>>4934083
yuh

>Doom thread on /v/
>Pretty clear people there haven't actually played the originals, rather they just vaguely know about it
>All this shit about what is and isn't Doom
>Durr the game is so ez when there's no proof of what difficulty they played at
>Choosing a weapon mod is considered "dumb RPG bullshit"
Good god

>>4932459
based

>>4934039
Wow. That mod is amazing! It can even show the names of items and decorations, that's awesome!
Thanks, anon.

>>4934118
Why are you even wasting your time there.

>>4934134
I was waiting for some food to cook and I thought "why not check out /v/ for once"
Terrible idea

>>4934134
cuz its a good reminder to come here

>>4932523
cringe

>>4932693
Question tho
Why you took the Legendary Suicide bomber?
just why???
Also annother thing, can you make it so that we can regulate the number of monsters that can spawn...
i mean with that, would be a good progress, maybe make some of the type of monsters only spawn with a cvar or something.

>>4934118
thanks for the update, chief

>>4934109
______huh

>>4932410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9THVQwnlrc&disable_polymer=1&ab_channel=SGtMarkIV

BDv21 gameplay test with Slaughtermaps (Scythe 2 Map 28)

>>4932494
anybody?

>>4934261
nevermind, I used "height offset"

>>4934291
everytime i watch, it brings a lot of question,
but nice job with the coloring non the less.

>>4934294
>everytime i watch, it brings a lot of question,
this might be the most unintentionally funny a post has been for me in a long time.

>>4934291
>ywn cop a feel of the bun
life no

>>4934291
I like it, its kinda cute

>>4934301
Have you tried going to church?

>>4934306
>not living a life of sin just so you can go to hell and punch skeletons for real

>>4934291
buff bun lewds when ya heathen

>tnt evilution map open season

Was it just me or was this map infuriatingly confusing for anyone else? That was an annoying slog. I spent an unreasonable amount of time finding my way through that map.

>>4933978
>>4933979
>>4933995
care to explain how it is better?

>>4934118
>>Pretty clear people there haven't actually played the originals, rather they just vaguely know about it
>>All this shit about what is and isn't Doom
/doom/ literally acts the same whenever there's an argument about Doom 4 and starts to get hostile with each other.

>>4934361
Not as far as I've seen

>>4934347
i agree the route isn't very clear or intuitive, but i think it's too small a map to be truly infuriating.

>>4934347
Half of TNT's maps just frustrated me with tediousness.

>>4934347
Too many Doom maps require you to play through them once before you can get maximum enjoyment out of them, so you aren't running around everywhere in confusion like a headless chicken.

>>4934008
my mapfu is bad and ill rather see someone who's skill is higher do better

since im occupied

>>4934385
>my mapfu is bad
I've been on this website too long, I read this as a play on "waifu".

Today is my birthday. /vr/os will decide what old school FPS i'll marathon.

Gimme something to listen to while I map
I dont care if its a podcast or music, I'm open to anything, right now Im listening to the Good Doom Music playlist on YT

>>4934404
*tschhh*
ahhhhh quake 1, now THAT was an FPS
Don't make em like that anymore
>>4934405
Listen to my favourite album anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLJ_AqA8PHE

>>4934000
RGH/A

>>4934405
Something with an old school feel.

>>4934406
Wonderful recommendation. Quake 1 is one of my favorites, the setting is so peculiar but nonetheless inspiring. Raw, dark, medieval, gothic, lovecraftianesque... I fucking love it. Today i'll probably pass a great day if i replay that masterpiece... There isn't a single thing that was off on that title, it's astonishing even to this day. I hate the fact that, at least the single player campaign, died with said title. Ok, the 2nd one is good and all but where are the castles? The swamps? The chambers with monstrous abominations? And to say that people said it was uninspiring... They had to see what games we have to this day, so they can appreciate what was that beautiful pillar that is Quake.

>>4934418
I haven't actually played it, I just enjoy boomerposting

>>4934421
Then play it, buzzfeed anon.

>>4934423
Is there a collection of them somewhere?

>>4934404
>marathon
you picked yourself

>>4934404
>>4934418
play this

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/92574-dimension-of-the-boomed-release-candidate-2/

>>4934347
Open Season isn't that bad, it makes up for it with good atmosphere, and as said, it's not really that big.

There's a couple of stinkers later on though.

>>4934008
Mr. Texture Friend, Mr. Texture Friend, could this image somehow be tilted/angled and turned into a texture?
I'm thinking maybe some sort of metal door which would fit in a gothic castle sort of level.

been playin quake non stop on nightmare with quake 2 soundtrack you cant stop me /vroom/

>>4934425
Steam

>>4934426
>marathon
fucking touché

>>4934508
vroom vroom gotta huuh fast

Random overlooked FPS: Hybrid for PS1. Did anyone play this hidden gem? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x9Vd_iWlKk

>>4933690
Two portals lead to certain death.
Choose wisely.

>>4933807
I'll send you a demo in PRBoom.

>>4934426
>>4934512
Now we only need a TV Series named "Binge" and food named "Stuff"
So that we could binge watch Binge, while marathoning Marathon and stuffing ourselves with Stuff!

tfw nuts.wad

>>4933807
>>4934534
http://www.mediafire.com/file/zgsoa1a6boi1zsd/FDA.lmp

That first key trap kept me nervous for the rest of the map. I feel like I stuffed the cyberdemon fight. Fun map. Thanks for making it.

>>4934404
Daikatana

>>4934405
Blue Öyster Cult, Fire Of An Unknown Origin
Good album.

>Checks MetaDoom's codex
>"Started on the... Artifact?!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9THVQwnlrc
???

>>4934741
¿¿¿

>>4934741
anon we already know this thanks to.
>>4934215

can some kind anon please post here the PB discord invite?

>>4934746
sorry, i just woke up

>>4934638
You bastard

>>4934291
uhhhh.... context?

>>4934779
one is supposed to be antho daisy
the other is the dragon guy from guncaster

>>4934793
i guess that's doom related

>>4934465
so you are just after pattern from the armor?
can do, gimme a while, got shit to do before I tackle that

>>4934404

ALWAYS BET ON THE DUCK

>>4934807
yeah, and I guess the chains running verticall

>>4934817

>>4934673
Not if you live in Redding.

icarus streaming final doomer x ancient aliens.

>>4934823
getting there anon, will make few variants, tell me if you want these side ribs straight or not and if there are any other details you want

>>4934856
Guess the evil reimu couldn't kill him.
https://clips.twitch.tv/ArbitraryInexpensiveKumquatTooSpicy

>>4934870
jesus fuck.

I wanna play Hideous Destructor
Any good map pack for it? Extra points if it has allied marines. I really liked that about BD/EDay,

>>4934870
Holy fuck

>>4934852
Explain.

>>4934858
Side ribs I guess should be straight.
Can't think of much else.

Oh, what about variants of it with a large skull painted on the middle section, red for red keys, blue for blue keys, yellow for yellow keys? And then maybe black or or white for switches or something.
Like just a filtered overlay to lay on with like transparency, and some chipping away at it to make it look like it's flaked.

Something similar to this maybe, just looking mean and menacing.

>>4934870
what is happening

This is harder than I expected, either that or I really suck at this

>>4934936
>Dimension of the Boomer

>>4934817
You mean the Quack?

Not sure if this would make a good texture, but maybe it could be changed a bit and make an intermission pic?

>>4934950
it would fit for some Foursite esque maps with mines and shit

>>4934919
One of three variants of /jp/'s favorite shrine maiden featured in Clusterfuck. Can only be spawned by console, and does some spooky shit and freezes gzdoom when you do so.

>>4934964
Also one of /jp/'s poorest shrine maidens

>>4934914
slowly getting there, regarding skull, will use pic provided and modify it in few ways I thought of, if you also posted >>4934950 then you will have to wait a bit

>>4934939
>that 30 year old boomer who still uses slipgates

YES
AT LAST
I AM COMPLETE

>>4935023
>double-barreled shotgun
>clip