/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4914285
black>2>1>3>4

1 & 2 before 989 took over.

Vigilante 8

Seriously though, 2. Of the retro ones. 2 was godly. One of the finer rentals in my PS days.

Rogue Trip was awesome too.
You get V8, TM2, RT, and Battletanx together and you've got your battle royale of vehicle combat.

>>4914285
The ones with analog sticks

>>4914285
2 was pretty good but I had my own copy of 4 and it has Rob Zombie as a playable character. It was my favorite PS1 game to put in a boombox.

>>4914285
I'd have to say 2.

Black is usually considered the best from most people I've talked to. 2 is best imo, though some of that may be nostalgia kicking in. It was such a great upgrade from 1.

>>4914302
>>4914487
Black messed me up as a kid, 8Ball's backstory disturbed the fuck out of me.

Loved that Rolling Stones soundtrack though.

>>4914285
2 for edgy /comedy
black for edgy pure

the good, creative kind of tongue in cheek edgy, not shit like hatred

>>4914573
I'd agree that Black was edge done right.

>>4914568
>those scraping sounds

>>4914573
>Just got component cables for PS2
>Pop in Twisted Metal Black
>Everything's super fucking dark
>Literally everything I play is like this
I can't tell what the issue is, I just wanted to play some TMB with higher grade video than composite. I've ordered a different set of cables, maybe that's the issue, but if not I guess I'll go with S-Video.

who's that guy who was the nuclear trailer truck

>>4914285
Post favorite driver/vehicles

>>4915793
Calypso did in Twisted Metal 4

>>4915801

there was a guy in 1 or 2 who was like half his body was a tractor trailer with missles

>>4915794
Outlaw. Loved the omni-taser.

>>4915794
I'm sure this is cheating, but Minion. Because fuck you, I like driving around as a fucking tank.

What was the best level and why was it Paris?

>>4915721
That's just what component looks like on PS2, its alot darker than any other cable/output setting. Just turn up your brightness and contrast when playing PS2 and using component.

>>4914568
No-Face. Oddly, he's the most interesting character in the game. Heck, even the manual is this faceless man's diary.

>>4914302
I disagree with 3>4. I liked 4 over 3. Then again, where does Small Brawl fit in?

>>4915907
I always figured the title Black was referring to the fact he was blind, too.

>>4915903
That's a darn shame, even with all the brightness and contrast up on the TV and in-game menus in say, Resident Evil Outbreak File 2, I still can't see shit.

>>4914285
Small Brawl

>>4915907
I was extremely disturbed by the idea of someone doing something like that to another person, really over something pretty insignificant. What was it, $500?

>>4915918
That works, though I kind of assumed it was for how grimdark and fucked up the world was in that game.

Also, if he's blind, how can he drive and maneuver? Calypso shenanigans?

My liking of this series took a hit when I realized that the AI doesn't exist on it's own. Enemy cars only do anything when the player is nearby, they don't attack each other, don't intentionally pick up items and don't attempt to escape when they are getting BTFO. The only exceptions are TM3 and 4, which happen to be the worst games of the series. It really DOES make a difference when the AI actively tries to evade and search for health when it's in bad shape. The gameplay dynamics change entirely.

>>4914302
This

>>4915910
Better than 1 but not as good as 2

>>4915918
>>4916945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxDmyjWX30k
http://twistedmetal.wikia.com/wiki/Black

>>4916959
Why the fuck is this namefag namefagging?

>>4915794
call me basic, he's a clown with fuckign fire hair

Remember in Twisted Metal Black, how if you play as Shadow (Raven), and have her special selected, and you press up three times, she pops up from the top of the car with a machinegun, shooting at enemies like with Outlaw's special?

Did you know that if you did that while holding down L1, L2, R1 and R2, she will do that topless, showing her titties?
For some reason, it's really hard to find references to this online, but it absolutely works.

>>4914285

4>2>3>small brawl>1 out of the ps1 games.

I'd put rogue trip over all of them though

>>4914285
Small Brawl

>>4914285
2 was the one with the best levels and the best gameplay imo. I've spent alot of time on it

>>4918027
She's also 17.

>>4915794

>>4918027
No, but I do remember that Shadow's ult had a bug in several games that would occasionally cover the entire map with your special attack.

>>4918176

you had to put in a cheat to get that angle

From a my own gameplay perspective:

Twisted Metal 1
>okay levels
>decent selection of cars
>healing system sucks (platforms)
>imbalanced specials(Thumper)
>okay physics
>overall primitive

Twisted Metal 2
>great physics, good for ramming
>good levels (except Suicide Slide)
>better healing system
>good, new weapons
>good selection of cars

Twisted Metal 3
>awful physics, cars flip easily and ramming does nothing
>cars are hit and miss
>cool and creative levels that added more height and level based hazards (Egypt besto)
>more good weapons, many improved

Twisted Metal 4
>tons of new cars with good specials, esp boss unlocks
>great levels, including more abstract multiplayer ones (Oil Rig besto)
>good bosses
>physics is only a bit better than 3
>some mediocre weapons

I'm kind of biased toward TM4 since I've played it the most, but I really find it the best from a gameplay perspective. I will say that the story and characters are pretty dumb in 4, but being able to play as Calypso and launch nukes from a truck more than makes up for it. Moon Buggy is also a beast with his electric wire special. Overall my ranking is 4>2>3>1.

>>4918147
I got a vague glimpse of some now deleted forumpost saying that's why that was taken out from the PS3 port. No idea if that was true.

God bless low poly jailbait titties.

>Twisted metal 1 and 2 are on PC
the fuck?

>>4914285
2 with Black in second place. Twisted Metal 2 is one of those rare games where everything about the presentation is just ace.

>look and see that Twisted Metal Black was ported to PS4
>it's still censored in the PAL version
GODDAMMIT! I WANT MY EDGY SCHLOCK!

2

>>4914285
Critical Depth

>>4918176
>handling: tight
ayy lmao

>>4919957
That's our Jaffe!

THE LORD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS

>>4920481
He didn't work on 3 or 4 though. That's purely 989 Studios' doing.

>>4919339
>get so desperate for edge on my big screen, try to buy it a second time on a USA account
>still doesnt work

>end up playing the thing on PCSX2 from pc hdmi to the tv
well a-atleast i let sony know that im willing to buy TM:B twice

>>4921172
Oh, I made a fool of myself. Which other games didn't he work on?

>>4918053
>Axel just wanted to walk again
>when he wins, Calypso gives him robot legs, but then uses a remote control to make him step on rakes
Fuck whoever had that cut, it was hilarious and entirely in tone and character with Calypso.

>>4918147
Nice!

>>4921782

he didn't work on 3,4 or small brawl

>>4918219

twisted metal 3 and 4 are underrated as fuck

>>4921665
How is PS2 emulation these days? Is it really demanding or unreliable, or can I just pick it up and play and it'll work?

>>4921830
ps2 emulation is excellent. can be demanding, depending on how old your cpu and gpu is.

>>4921878
I got a laptop last year, after my old clunker died.
It has 12gb of memory, how good performance would that give me?

>>4914285
I'm going with Twisted Metal 4. Everyone hates his for God knows why, but it unironically had the best graphics and best level design. The oil rig, Neon City, and the giant room with the toys were awesome levels. Going back to the previous TM games (especially TM3) and they felt like sloppy messes compared to TM4.

>>4918219
Who plays Twisted Metal for the story? I didn't mind TM4 having silly characters with silly endings. Besides, the Joneses were pretty cool.

>>4922258
thb Black told a couple of neat stories.
Gameplay is really where the games shine though.

>>4922262
Which is the TM that had Sweet Tooth wind up getting stuck in his own daughter's grave? Black? That was pretty disturbing.

>>4922271
That was the 2012 one.
I kind of liked that twist.

>"I want the one that got away, take me to my daughter"
>Calypso is all "ok lol"
>takes him exactly to where she is
>in her coffin
>where she's been for the past 10 years
>after killing herself
I mean tell me that isn't just a perfect punishment, not only was she already dead, robbing him of that satisfaction, but now he'll die down there, because apparently Needles just doesn't learn from Calypso's fucking years of monkeypawing nearly everyone.

>>4922294
I thought it was really lame there were only 3 characters though

>>4922956
Oh yeah, that part was extremely disappointing.

>>4922294
Was 2012 a continuation of Black? It's never made clear, but it almost seems like it was, if not for the fact that Calypso looks different but ya know, he has magic and shit that can alter all of reality so changing his appearance is child's play for him.

>>4923026
Pretty sure it wasn't, Black was all taking place in Needles Kane's head, and in 2012, Preacher and Grimm are both pretty different.

>>4915865
Everyone likes the APC Minions but I'll always love Black's gigantic fuck-you cabover fuel truck Minion.

>>4918027
This sounds like some bullshit that someone would post on CheatCC 15 years ago.

>>4923181
somewhat sure it's shit
tried it in my first pressing of tm:b w/ control freak (so no accidental weapon usage when pressing shoulder buttons) and nothing changes, i have been bamboozled

>>4923214
actually scratch that, did some quick googling and it turns out it's not up three times like to use the normal turret, it's triangle three times and sure as shit it's real, albeit impossible to actually make out with TM:B's murky as fuck everything and the sorry state of PS2 emulation
why is interlacing so fucking awful my dudes

>>4923105
There's something satisfying about plowing into something with all of the horsepower a big cargo freighter can muster.
That's why Darkside was my favorite.

>>4923223
Someone should dig into the game and see if they can rip the model and textures.
Yes, I know they're low definition as shit.

>>4923229
They're pretty low definition but still pretty damn well made, lots of detail for being so low poly. One thing that I always remember is the swinging chains on the back of Crazy 8 and the I-beam holding the spare tire on deforming and falling off as you take damage. TM:B is the Quake 1 of car combat games for sure, with the moody as fuck environments and character/vehicle design.

>>4923235
Does her titties jiggle with the recoil?

>>4923251
No, her entire body shakes around like a goddamn Weeble when she uses the turret. Also her chair has rocket boosters on the bottom?

>>4914307
>Vigilante 8
1 was meh but holy shit if 2nd offence wasnt a great game, though gameplay is pretty clunky compared to TM 1&2 last time i got to play it.

>>4914487
Black problem was that the gameplay had some problems like cars takes far too much damage, the colision mechanics were kinda lame compare to 2 where playing as Mr Grimm require good driving skills to not get rammed by the heavyweights and the special attack bar drains far too much from a single freeze or shield, not to mention the new commands sucked.

>>4915794
This motherfucker.
Love the simple design and how he is based around hit and run tactics. The special weapon sound is my favorite part. Nothing more fun than playing as crimson fury on Cyburbia.

>>4915794
Can't beat it. Average in every way but just feels good, man.

>>4918464
Even better, the modding community is cracking TM 2 PC and are creating levels and new car skins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDkPiW04G8E

>>4922249
I didnt particularly enjoyed the lack of seriousness of 4, part of the reason for me enjoying TM 1&2 were that i was rooting for the guys to win and thought their plea to fight added to the atmosphere. 3&4 were too whacky and lighthearted for me to totally invest.

>>4923229
This is also why I love demo derbys. Because let's face it, that's as close to Twisted Metal we're ever going to get.

>>4923306

>playing twisted metal for the story

>>4921787
Then again, that would be tasteless anyways.

>>4923306
Story in a video game (let alone a Twisted Metal game) is like story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important.

>>4919754

That was also a fun game

>>4923385
Thank you for your input, Carmack.

>>4923385
>what are RPGs
>what are computer text-based adventure games
?what are Graphic adventures.

>>4923434

those games are fucking boring

>>4923385
People get so mad when you want a video game to be a video game first and a story second. I read books for stories, and if your game doesn't let me skip your bullshit story that is completely awful, I'm not playing.

>>4923385
It's true that you can have a game with little, or even no story, there's some great games out there with not even an ounce of story telling.

But what Carmack said wasn't an axiom.

>>4923380
That's why it's funny.

>>4923441
>T.has never played an RPG nor a text-based adventure game

>>4923287
"DUN-DUN-DUUUNNNNNN"

>>4923460

I played pokemon

>>4923460
faggot I've played Final Fantasy 3, Etrian Odyssey, Paper Mario 64 and GC, fallout NV and countless no-name indie titles
RPG's are fucking BORING and I'm sick of modern titles trying to focus story and pretend to be RPGs

>>4923864
>>4924341
This really updates my journal.

>>4923619
My favorite sound followed by Shadow's and Spectre from TM2.

>>4923367
I-I do

>>4923364
Let's be fucking glad for that, I don't want some sick fuck like Needles either just demolishing my neighborhood, or going around murdering people.

Am I the only one who enjoyed the PS3 one? The cut scenes were awesome. I wish it had more characters to chose from though.

my favorite is TM4
I also kinda liked TM 2012

>>4929523
yeah I liked it too
the change of tone was weird but it wasn't as horrible as God of War since it still was the good old Twisted Metal game

>>4929523
>>4929576
I remember seeing some bossfight where you send a guy with a bomb into a giant monster truck, that was kinda cool.

I might have it lying around somewhere at home, should I give it a try?

>>4929550
>my favorite is TM4
Its pretty fun, i remember enjoying playing with my cousins. Sadly i have no one to play it with since my brother and sister dont like it.

>>4918039
I need to pick up rogue trip, I haven’t played that in years

>>4923385
upvoted

TM2 is my favorite. Lots of great memories of playing with my brother and doing turbo laps and killing everything using ricochets so they'd roll.

>>4915889
I liked Paris and New York the most. After I learned you could break out of LA, I went looking for other levels to escape from and found out you can break out of Paris too.

>>4923303
dam, looks pretty cool, wonder if they'll get the multiplayer working with those maps

>>4914285
Twisted metal 2

>>4915794
Shadow, unironically, a death machine, his special requires practice and good timing, thats all

>>4914285
I still remember reaching TM2 final as kid, then Dark Tooth spawned, very scary

three months in the nuthouse...

>>4933169
How'd he get away from the electric chair after the execution fails, but then turn up at the nuthouse after that? Wouldn't they put him back on death row and try again if he's already sentenced?

I guess it made sense in his head.

2 > 1 > 4 > Black > Small Brawl > Being a civilian in Los Angeles during the 10th annual Twisted Metal tournament > 3

>>4915865
warhog was like a poor man's minion. Literally beat someone with warhog against their minion.

>>4918027
because titties

>>4915889

best TM2 levels were paris and holland

>>4916957

in TM3 the AI constantly steals health pickups

>>4933954

I don't get all of the hate for TM3. It's probably the worst TM game, but it's still fun as hell

>>4933994
After the step up from TM1 to TM2, 989 getting hold of the series and doing what they did was a failure from a publishing perspective. They could've held off on TM4 until the PS2 if TM3 wasn't such a mess.

>>4933992
That means they challenge you.

>>4914285
2 > 1 > 4 > 3. 3 was absolute garbage. I felt so ripped off.

>>4914307
V8:2nd offense for Dreamcast is the best car combat game of all time.

>>4914479
As much as I love Rob Zombie, having him as a playable character was just a gimmick to distract you from the fact that the game sucked ass.

>>4914479
>>4936614
They had Rob Zombie?
That's pretty neat, even if just a gimmick.

I only ever played Black, but always was kind of interested in all the old ones. Should I just play through them all chronolically?

>>4937224
To be honest with you I'd play them in reverse so they get better with each installment.

>>4937235
I haven't played Black in ages, so I think I'll do fine.
They're not as good as the series progresses? I remember Black was very fun, especially in multiplayer (and I don't even particularly like multiplayer), is the multiplayer similar on these older ones?

The most humorous thing about the first game is the bugged-to-hell collision physics. I mean, I get it; it's their first game, but it's still funny how quickly you can destroy another car by touching it to death.

Unironically Small Brawl

>>4938252
Who's idea was Small Brawl anyway

>>4914302
Correct.

>>4923303
oh shit
CUUUSTOM CONTEEEENNNTTTT?

>>4918027
does that work in gutted PAL version?

>>4940724
Good question.
This was unknown for a long time, and it only showed up online a few years after release, probably leaked by one of the devs who put it in there.

It's difficult to find any mention of it online, and no cheat site I found had it listed, chances are good it's still in the PS3 and PS4 ports, PAL or US, just because nobody knew it was there to take out.

It's kind of cool in that way. Especially since she's jailbait; a transgressive easteregg like this would be hard to sneak into a game these days, and it would be a big controversy once found out.

Hot Coffee made a big fuss, but the characters involved were of age. It's a wonder this slipped by the radar.

>>4938006
That's the best part of 1

>>4938006
Thats what makes playing as Crimson Fury so fun, one touch with the wrong car and you are toasted,

>>4938252
Really loved small brawl ,wish the gameplay was closer to 2 since anything but special weapons and powers did fuck all of damage.

>>4940756
A shame it was removed from 3 onward.

>>4924341
>fallout NV and paper mario are boring
fuck you

>>4914302
>3 above anything.

>>4938006

ramming is OP as fuck in the first game

>>4944038
I always liked ramming.

>>4933983
Good old titties.

I really like 4 a lot and its my favorite. I legit don't understand the hate.

I don't think its better than 2 necessarily, but I certainly played it more in the end. Black was good too. 3 was just....ehhh...I didn't like it.

>>4918027
>>4918147
>17 year old goth girl titties

Small Brawl is the best. I really like the levels.

>>4916972
because he's an attention whoring faggot. he does drink natty daddy, though, so he's not all bad.

>>4914568
I was terrified of him and Yellow Jacket. Their stories were very morbid

>>4914285
TM2>TMB>TM:Head On>TM:PS3>TM>TM4>TM:SB>TM3
>>4915794

>>4938006
I always played thumper. Ramming goes good with his flamethrower special.

Small Brawl or 1. I only played the black demo, but frequently. I guess I was satisfied enough with it.

Head on is a real sequel to tm2. All of the characters returned and story continues from the previous ending

No love for the PSP game? It was the sequel to TM2 and was pretty damn good

>>4951717
Haven't played it, but it featured the removed cutscenes from the original game as a bonus, right? Why were those removed to begin with?

>>4914568
Bloody Mary is my waifu

I wish for peace- AAAAAAAAAAAH!!

>>4953508
Your wish is my command, anon.

>>4914568
I listened to Paint It Black a lot back in my emo/cutter phase.

>>4926972
Same. The story and the characters are the best parts

Everyone always seems to hate 4, but it's pretty much the only one I played as a kid. Loved it back then aside from the sweet tooth car which was retarded (cool as a boss though).
I was more of a vigilante guy though.

>>4914568
I played Black at the wrong time of my life. It was the first time that I made an external mention that my dad was beating me and I almost got taken away to foster parents. I remember my mom telling me that there was a possibility that I was going to get sent to a hospital over it, and then I played this game and that was what I thought my life was going to be soon.

So glad I finally put the fear of God in them (my dad more directly) earlier this year once I finally had the balls to call the cops after beating me one too many times and moved out of that shit.

>>4951780
they were really, really silly

>>4953697
>I remember my mom telling me that there was a possibility that I was going to get sent to a hospital over it, and then I played this game and that was what I thought my life was going to be soon.

Jesus.

>>4953719
So what's the problem?

>>4953731
they were really, really silly
that was it. They thought it was too silly and replaced the endings with scroll text

>>4953749
The production value was maybe a bit low, and some of the acting not so great, but I love Calypso's meatloaf face and corny demon voice, also how some of the contestants actually do get what they want with no strings attached.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoFs8REgq8I

Also how he just has a bunch of chicks around him.

>>4953775
I'd honestly say that sweet tooth's ending is one of the very few "crazy clown murder" done right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESEHzlewLmE

>>4953842
I feel he was developed better later on though.

>>4953861
me too, but I still think this brand of crazy hasn't been attempted enough
non-sequiturs Can work

>>4953775
I always thought that was a hockey stick behind him for some reason as a kid.

>>4954595
Can't spell hell without hockeysticks.

>>4914302
black played great, though stylistically i still prefer 2 and head-on's comic style over black's super dark style (though i can appreciate it aswell).

>>4953842
I kind of like the meaty BLAMs from the guns
Sounds less like stock sounds and more like they sampled an actual gun.

>>4953775
Mmm, meatloaf.

>>4914302
black had shit music

>>4958745
How so?

>>4915721
change your tv's black level to high

>>4958748
maybe i'm not far enough in it yet, but the music playing in single player is this generic orchestral stuff where 4 had rob zombie and all sorts

>>4958783
I suppose. I really liked the menu theme and the Rolling Stones.

During development, Twisted Metal's working title was High Octane (hence why Calypso called it such in the cut FMV scenes).

Do you think High Octane or Twisted Metal is the better name to go with?

>>4960786
totes twisted metal

>>4960786
It was codenamed Firestorm and it was developed alongside Warhawk. Warhawk can be referenced in TM: Black as the final boss, and possibly the game's case in Calypso's trophy room in TM 2012 (albeit obscured by the camera change).

>>4960792
I agree, it's a pretty standout title, and emphasizes the combat aspect of the kind of demolition derby it is.

>>4914285
Twisted Metal PS3 remake should have been scrapped and revamped into Twisted Metal 5.

>>4960862
What was the problem with PS3's TM game?

>>4961005
Different guy, I haven't played it yet, but looking at some of the features and what not, it really feels like they wanted to do a lot more but didn't have the time.
Like only three drivers are playable in the campaign, the rest don't really get any story (Preacher gets like, SOME).

It kind of comes off like they were hoping to get a sequel to finish things up.

If you don't hum along with this song, you're a fucking loser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLFok2t605k

>>4961005
It was an online focused game that suffered from server issues

>>4961005
ultimately; Sony fucked and forced a strict release date
as all AAA publishers do

>>4961020
step aside, son
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_bJ_oY_9WE

>>4914285
Carmageddon 2

>>4962046
I wonder what it could have been, had it not been horribly rushed.

>>4915794
slamm all day

>>4915794
Darkside

With emuparadise down, anyone know where one could perhaps cop the roms for 1, 2, 3, 4, and Black?

>>4966710
Google