/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[07-19] Redneck Rampage source port in RedneckGDX is now in early development
https://youtu.be/O3CtVzcr_Pg

[07-19] Anon wants some DarkXL things in news post
http://xlengine.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1062&sid=f969982a628c5402743c2964c3390605
https://github.com/luciusDXL/XL-Engine
https://www.gamepressure.com/download.asp?ID=62915

[07-17] Ion Maiden to have a multiplayer beta coming later this year, may lead to proper EDuke32 multi as well
http://www.ionmaiden.com/

[07-12] BloodGDX Multiplayer update released
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/bloodgdx-blood-port-to-javas-libgdx-framework-with-opengl-support-now-supports-classic-multiplayer/

[07-14] Doom 64 for Doom 2 released, a vanilla reimagining of D64 maps
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/92901-doom-64-for-doom-ii-released/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f2vBW9GMZU

[07-10] Leonard's vacation in hell(WIP): Brings the weapons from Redneck Rampage in Doom:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=61240&sid=e56278bdcf25f27e5b882e52a3d9cc70

[07-09] REKKR has finally released
http://manbitesshark.com/

[07-09] Compendium, a GZDoom merger of 54 older wads with Dehacked code replaced with ACS/Decorate
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=61211

[07-09] Assets from id Software's RPGs released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101479-sprite-and-textures-from-id-software-rpgs-games-finally-released-by-gec%EF%BB%BF/?tab=comments#comment-1896000
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E-bDdsXGw1jIBbJj1T0eHD-neb9grs_S/view (PNGs)

[07-08] Quake2XP's last yearly update
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-xp/downloads/quake2xp-1268-final-release

[07-08] Diabolus Ex released, a Deus Ex-inspired map
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101473-gzdoom-diabolus-ex-v10/

[07-07] Nominations are open for the 1st Quake Awards
http://www.quakeawards.com/2018/07/06/nominations-open/

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Sweet Christ I am on cocaine and listening to Death Grips and I love Doom
Playing through Going Down
Jesus Christ my cock

I punched my daughter

If you had to remake an idtech1 game in the Build engine, which game would you choose and how would you use Build's features?

>>4918707
can you stop avatarfagging?

>>4918708
for the everloving what purpose

>>4918708
Probably just the first Doom honestly, just to see what map archetypes like techbases would be like with a DN3D-style twist or something.

I revamped Freedoom Guy's face

whatta dink?

>>4918729
chris redfield?

>>4918729
That looks much better. See if you can push that onto Freedoom itself.

>>4918730
hehe, yeah, I guess he kinda does

>>4918731
already uploaded it to the github

>>4918729
It looks great, and certainly better than the fatso posted some weeks earlier.

>>4918735
Boulder punching is one of the best things to come out of resident evil.

I fucking love how High Noon Drifter's shotgun is also a sniper rifle

First for comfy D'Sparil

>>4918721
You know, an entire map pack for any of the Build games based off of that has much potential.

>>4918729
Looks fucking awesome, dude!

>>4918729
Pretty damn good!

>>4918729
better than the messi one

Now that I think about it, he could easily fit as a classic Wolfenstein boss.

>>4918813
weebs out

>>4918792
IMPORTANT QUESTION

Who would win: D'Sparil VS. Nihilanth?

Both all-powerful beings in charge of an army, both capable of teleportation, both invaded another reality

Too many barrels going off in Hideous Destructor tanks and kills the framerate and I don't know what to do.

>>4918814
And don't complain, you asked for it.

>>4918814
Might want to think twice before posting that, son. JoJo is a well loved manga on here, along with Berserk and Fist of the North Star. Two of them even have Doom wads. Still waiting for a Berserk doom wad though, because that would be the tits.

>>4918818
i didn't ask for a fucking thing you piece of human excrement

>>4918823
>JoJo is a well loved manga on here
jojo is a well-spammed manga on here because for some reason all the fucking secondaries are still infesting /vr/ instead of having moved on to the next ironic weebshit
>Two of them even have Doom wads.
so does /pol/, 'has a doom mod' does not automatically make the thing that has a mod relevant to discussion

>>4918835
Imagine being this much of a whiny bitch.

>>4918835

Lose the 'tude, dude

>>4918835
Ironically, this is a bigger shitpost than some weeb saying a Nazi cyborg from some mango would fit as a Wolfenstein boss.

>>4918835
Quit being a soggy twat. In other news, has anyone played Legend of the Seven Paladins?

>installed reshade to enable ssao in quakespasm
>doesn't work even when is listed as compatible in the site
evritiem

>>4918817
Well, found out I could just wait it out and it'll get acceptable. But in doing so I got lit up and went in the red, then "power grew out of me" and got all my health back? Is that what the soulsphere does? This mods amazing so far, I keep figuring out all this cool shit. Its the only gameplay overhaul I've gone back to over an evening.

>>4918847
>has anyone played Legend of the Seven Paladins
Can't say I have. Care to give me a rundown?

>>4918860
A South Korean FPS developed in Taiwan. It was the first game to use the Build engine, albeit illegally.

>>4918848
well, report it, you niggu

>>4918813
That would be fun, he's kinda like the mutants already.

>>4918879
>minigun
>it fires from the center
what

>>4918864
Is it any good, or just a weird proof of concept?

>>4918817
>>4918852
Try disabling fluidsynth, that is a cpu hog.

>>4918883
I haven't played the game itself, so I can't say if its any good or not.

>>4918882
Welcome to Wolfenstein 3D.

>>4918886
>fluidsynth
Wait wait wait, could this be the reason why newer versions of GZDoom have such a laggy performance on my toaster compared to older ones?

>>4918882
You know this is from the same guys that called a minigun a chaingun and made a double-barreled shotgun that fires both barrels at once

>>4918892
Yes. It's notorious for being a CPU hog.

>>4918883
If you want to try it out though, here's a download. http://www.old-games.com/download/2429/legend-of-the-seven-paladins

>>4918882
>>minigun
>>it fires from the center
>from a nazi 4 armed zombie chest
videogames

>>4918907
t. pete hines

>>4918905
Hopefully it won't be too clunky on DOSbox.

>>4918895
Alright. If I end up disabling it, though, what would I be losing?

>>4918892
do you have an opengl 2 gpu?
I only know that quakespasm runs better than gzdoom in my memebook, 60 fps vs a stuttering 5-15 fps

>>4918918
disregard that, I suck demon cocks
>my apu is actually opengl 4.5
makes me think

>>4918937
>disregard that, I suck cocks
I haven't read this sentence in many years

>>4918937
>makes me think
there is nothing to think, don't get me wrong, I like gzdoom and his capabilities but it should run a lot faster

>>4918949
~/boomer.jpg

>>4918823
>JoJo is a well loved manga on here
I don't like it

https://streamable.com/tn4li
>>WARNING
Sound effects are pretty disgusting, so, y'know.
Finishing up some basic fists for my mod that probably won't be any more useful than the vanilla fists. I'm glad getting them to distinguish between walls/non-bleeding actors and bleeding actors respectively wasn't too hard for me.

>>4918814
no

>>4918957
>boomers
>z(d)oomers

>>4918983
>I'm glad getting them to distinguish between walls/non-bleeding actors and bleeding actors respectively wasn't too hard for me.
I wish more mods did this.

>>4918997
I know, right? Not trying to start anything inflammatory about BD, but the punching sounds for monsters and walls always being 'bone crunching' with or without a 'zerk pack bugged me a lot. I don't like BD to begin with, but even if I did I'm sure it'd still bug me.

>>4919005
posting this one sprite I notice something weird. What the fuck is that band on Doomguy's arm? It isn't a creative liberty the sprite author took, it's on the player sprites too. I'm guessing it's a elbowpad but it looks too thin to be useful.

>>4919012
it's where he rolled up the sleeve

>>4918813
Honestly, he's a cut above the rest, he actually took responsibility for the pillar men fuckup and saw it through to the end. I doubt many others of his ilk would have done the same.

>>4918814
Bitch boy.

what's the best way to play wolf3d currently?
on the GBA it's cool and all but I really want back my aim.

I'm looking for a vanilla oriented sourceport that keeps the dumb additives to a bare minimum. I'll settle for an automap and a custom HUD, spare me the 3d models and all that gak.

>>4918957
pills here!

>>4919012
I like QC's interpretation/repurposing where it becomes a nice easy access shotgun round holder
certainly more useful in the eyes of a marine than a chest level wristband

>>4918893
Making a double-barreled shotgun that fires both barrels isn't even remotely implausible, people have modified existing shotguns to do that, and I've seen at least one factory shotgun where the front trigger could be pulled to fire one barrel at a time, and the rear trigger to fire both.

The muzzleflash coming from the center of the gatling guns in Wolf3D is probably just a quick and dirty effect that was seen as "good enough", because people had low resolution CRT displays and the style of the game is pretty cartoony, it'll work.
In Doom, the spidermind's gun would have it light up in the actual muzzles, with the big flash booming out the 12 o' clock position.

>>4919012
Some of the alpha and beta weapon sprites showed those elbow pads IIRC.

>>4918729
99% better than the originals.

>>4918702
>[07-19] Redneck Rampage source port in RedneckGDX is now in early development
Oh fuck yeah. Hopefully it gets a multiplayer release too.

>>4919005
>but the punching sounds for monsters and walls always being 'bone crunching' with or without a 'zerk pack bugged me a lot
Same here, it actually gives the impression that Doomguy is getting his hand broken.

>>4919041
ECWolf is the only one I can think of, but it should fit with your needs.

>>4918698
Why don't you do wad reviews, anon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT2vO0N7jss

>>4918698
Anon, I can't register at doomworld - I can never verify the captcha...

I, I... can't even register at ZDoom forums - where is the register button?!

I am simply trying to make a post in the D64D2 thread to let Mechadon know that I cannot flip the switch that leads to the 1st blue key, in level 1!

It's pretty frustrating not being able to enjoy that new release, I can't even ve sure if my comment would lead to the problem veing solved for me.

Well, one thing I have accomplished is to 'vaccinate' the wad: I wanted it to coexist besides Doom II, so what I did was to rename the map lumps so there would be no conflicts with the pointers. I also edited the MAPINFO lump to point to the 'new' nextlevel entries. Then I removed the 'nightmare' versions of the enimies by commenting out what they replace. This allows Doom II MAP31 to function correctly, since CommanderKeen behavior is now preserved.

What is worst about all this is: even though I am willing to ipload my editied wad for any interested anon, I myself cannot enjoy the fruits of my toil.

HELP!!!

>>4918729
Looks really good!

>>4918814
>weebs out
>on fucking 4chan

What the fuck was this, anyway?

>>4919193
Someone got shot in the head and then they dragged away the body, I guess?

>>4919193
In the post office level, you can see that wall decal in front of a truck with a broken windshield, so I'd assume that a Windshield Cannon happened.
Of course, it could be anything, but presumably, it involved something violent happening to someone's head.

I wanna play BloodGDX more, but I can't get past the excessive screen tearing. I wish I had a better monitor.

>>4919041
https://www.afadoomer.com/wolf3d/downloads.html
This is the one you need. It really is the best. It's both extremely authentic and is really good and comfy to actually play.

You only need ECWolf if you want to play user made maps.

>>4919112
>facecam
Also Dignity's a good answer

>>4919229
if only there was a solution to screen tearing...

>>4919245
I forgot to mention how much that fucks up with the mouse input, which is why I don't use it.

>>4918913
your midi music will sound different

>>4919142
>Then I removed the 'nightmare' versions of the enimies by commenting out what they replace. This allows Doom II MAP31 to function correctly, since CommanderKeen behavior is now preserved.
From the DEHACKED lump too? D64D2 covers multiple bases on account of its port-independent nature.

>>4919245
>wanting mouse lag
i'll take screen tearing over vsync anyday

>>4918886
there are other options besides fluidsynth in the menu, what should I use instead?

Well continuing the music post from the other thread:
Whats your favorite WAD in terms of sountrack?
least favorite?
if they borrow the music from the DOOM1-2, Heretic, etc, do you bring your own music or do you slap a music mod?

https://drive.google(.)com/file/d/0B4p2zWkJEFFtNGlITG5ydWxYbEU/view
https://www.moddb(.)com/games/doom-ii/addons/synthdoom-music-replacer-for-doom2
https://www.mediafire(.)com/file/xde1vgsslhcdzy8/DOOM+SNESJukebox-+UltraPack.pk3

It's Saturday and I'm bad at drawing blood onto pre-rendered death frames.

SPEAKING OF SATURDAY. IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN. LET'S SEE THEM SPRITES, THOSE MAPS, AND THOSE WEAPONS.

EXCEPT FOR THAT GUY WHO POSTED THE CACODEMON, HE ALREADY DID THE THING.
I'm sorry for forgetting to post this, I keep spacing it out before going to bed

>>4919370
FUCK! I haven't worked on anything in a while, I realized I need to finish a monster sprite!

See you in a few hours.

>>4919229
manually limit your FPS to either your refresh rate or one below that, that should solve most of it.

I'm trying to use reshade to apply a 3dfx shader with yamagi quake 2 but it's not working.

>>4919439
hm apparently it doesn't like opengl 3.2. I had to use opengl 1.4 instead.

>>4919451
>i want more vaseline in my eyes

>>4919142
> I, I... can't even register at ZDoom forums - where is the register button?!
It goes away every now and then, I don't know why. It should be back, at least for now.

>>4919368
what was wrong with the original sprites?
why were they bad again?

>>4919462
The original pre-rendered sprites I received from a cool person didn't have any blood or gore or whatever on them, which felt a bit off considering every previous Cacodemon's death sequence gets pretty messy.

Is there a standalone version of Smooth Doom's blood that I could use with Doom 64 Retribution?

>>4918983
Punch animation looks really slow. Can you speed it up in berserk mode?

>>4919076
>1% not better

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Is it possible to customize a sector light mode in GZDoom?
"Software" emulation (GL_Lightmode 8) STILL has some bugs (like turning certain textures pitch black in conjunction with fake contrast emulation in sectors with light level 32 and below)
Doom (GL_Lightmode 2) and Dark mode (GL_Lightmode 3) do not pronounce light level difference enough to my tastes.

Basically what I want is Doom sector light mode (GL_Lightmode 2), but with sector light contrast being between current (GL_Lightmode 2) and software (GL_Lightmode 8).

> when the cultist comrades leave you alone with the wine on the table and the sacrifice still warm

Greetings mortal. Are you ready to dine?

>>4919596
ORDER ME, AND I MAY YET BE DELICIOUS
THEN AGAIN, MAYBE NOT

>>4919370
wip

>>4919675
This has potential my friend. Keep up the good work.

>>4919451
i may respect old Q2GL in yamagi, but im too damn old to care about Vaseline filtering

atleast Q2PRO and Q2XP handles it well

>>4919596
ARE YOU STRONG ENOUGH?
TO TASTE YOUR OWN ANCESTORS?

>>4919596
MY SERVANTS CAN SMELL YOUR SPUD, HUMAN

>>4918729
4/10 doesn't look like Karl Urban

>>4919596
>Purchase me, and I may yet be tasty...then again, maybe not.

>>4919596
I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese and a large soda.

>>4919762
The secret with McDonalds is to go for the cheap and basic items. Their big and elaborate burgers were never satisfying, because they cheap out so much on ingredients. If I want a big burger with bells and whistles, I go somewhere else.

Their best burger is the small and basic cheeseburger, because it's too simple to fuck up: bun, patty, cheese, pickle, onions, 'mustard' and ketchup. No tomato or soggy sallad, no special sauce or dressing, no shit tier bacon or fancy stuff that's outside of their reach, it's basic bitch and it does that ok.

can someone please help me getting this to work?

https://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/texture-stock-mainmenu-152-97360/other-sources-styles-mainmenu-155-26369/1610-doom64-texture-variants#preview

it doesnt fucking work
with zdl nor with the -file command
what the hell am I doing wrong
Im not new to doom modding yet I cant get this shit to work at all
wtf?

>>4919813
idk, always liked Royal Cheeseburger more than any other kind of burger

>>4919840
Realm667 is meant to offer material for mod/wad making
Are you trying to actually play with it?

https://youtu.be/GpMXs0ZmEPk
I like this.
Just made some changes to the lighting so it's darker and spoopier.

>>4919813
I fucking hate ketchup :(
So, it's either BigMac or BigTasty for me.
-another-anon

>>4919850
yes
I am looking for a good doom 64 and a doom 3 texturepack for doom 2 based maps
can you recommend one to me?

>>4919863
I don't think i know any

>>4919861
Have you tried asking them to not put ketchup on the burger?

>>4919872
jesus fuck all I can fucking find for alternative textures are UBER ULTRA MEGA CANCER 4K TEXTURE BULLSHIT TRASH FOR HARDCORE GAYMERS
jesus fuck
I dont fucking want textures higher resolution than normal
I just want them different
for fuck fucking sake I didnt expect it would be this hard to find a goddamn standard res texture pack for a game like doom
how the fuck is someone supposed to use those packages on real 667 site?
why cant they upload playable versions?
whats the fucking point to have so many packs and none of them you can fucking play with

>>4919890
>whats the fucking point to have so many packs and none of them you can fucking play with

That is exactly NOT the point, the point in anything in Realm667 is being resource-ready for usage in mods, not ingame directly.

And ffs stop crying like a little bitch and do the shit yourself.

>>4919897
die of brain cancer faggot cocksucker nigger trash

>>4919861
I usually don't like ketchup that much, but I find it fits that particular cheeseburger.

>>4919890
It's a resource you fucking idiot, you load it into a .wad and then use those textures when making a level.
That's the entire point with R667, modding resources.

If you have the patience to learn, you could modify that texture pack and try to make it work as a replacement pack for regular Doom.

>>4919890
Have you heard of Consolation Prize?
It's maps from Doom 64 and Doom's PS1 port being playable with mods, if that's what you want

>>4919904
you sound like a bitch yourself
didn't knew that?

Im pretty sure there was a Heretic+Hexen for Doom texture pack somewhere.
but i dont wanna look - do it yourself.

>>4919370
Posted this a few days ago and some anon recommend some texture variety. Thoughts? I'm trying to get better at texturing outdoors.

>>4919890
Look up Hexen texture replacements for Doom 2.

>>4919954
The framing of the door clashes with the rocky textures, or is there a hidden techbase behind it?

so normal black imp is kind of a joke once you get the intimidation factor out of the way, so I figured to make his ex form a lot more interesting and different, keeping the smoke aspect but actually making his attacks a threat

>>4919965
Nah it's just a placeholder light texture for now. This texture pack doesn't have any good ones for door frames.

What are the best DN3D mapsets? I'm in the mood to chew some ass.

>>4919971
https://youtu.be/w45hddegK_Q

There's a hell fungus among us.

>>4920104
how about you post more shit for me to tile anon

>>4918502
And Quad Damage spawns health packs, but still doesn't breat the codex.
A strange bug, alright.

>>4919890
I got a couple you might like. This first one is Hexen 2 Textures for Doom. The second one is called Fearriffic Textures. You can actually play with these. Mixtape makes up a name when you upload to it.

https://my.mixtape.moe/lowmoe.wad
https://my.mixtape.moe/uhvjqf.pk3

>>4920119
I'll look around and see if I find some stuff that *maybe* could be used.
Anything from here you think looks usable?

>>4919370

>>4920189
What is this?

>>4920191
Map for a Boom set I'm working on

>>4920189
That looks nice. Please don't be slaughter.

>>4920198
If the map looks nice it's usually going to be slaughter. I don't know why it's almost always like that but it is.

>>4920215
If a map is made to look pretty, odds are it probably started as a visually intended map to begin with, and then the creator has no idea how to actually balance it for a proper Doom level so they plaster enemies everywhere. Especially in wide open maps that may have never been designed with any sort of progression in the first place.

>>4920215
Usually a map that is that open automatically becomes slaughter because when there are few enemies people complain on enemy placement saying "there was not enough monsters to fill the emptyness of the rooms", so we enter in a bit contradictory rules here.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=61370

What the FUCK?

>>4920236
On one hand, automatic resolution scaling to window size, neat. On the other hand, why?

>>4920236
why

>>4920236
This is the dumbest idea. It's another another reason why graf and Rachael need the boot.

>>4920236
Who's responsible for this?

>>4920248
Graf, of course.

>>4920236
If they contain fucking up this way maybe we'll get some more Buildbros

come to the build engine guys, the doors aren't that dangerous

>>4920229
>>4920220
>>4920215
I like large enemy counts in non-linear maps set in places like cities or whatever since it's fun to run from building to building clearing shit out and gradually making parts of the map safe.

Cheese crater (IIRC) was my favourite map of E2 of Square for this reason.

>>4920256
A Build Samsara would be the fucking tits. Filled with every Build engine playable character and idtech1 characters.

>>4919506
I'll probably speed it up regardless. But maybe reducing the damage bonus of berserk and instead having the advantage be speed could be interesting.

>>4920215
Skillsaw is guilty of propagating this.

>>4920236
Why

>>4920273
newfag

this has been going on ever since sunder

>>4920236
>Simple: They've been removed. The game works similar to how Starcraft 2, World of Warcraft, Diablo 3, etc behave now by Blizzard, where you can no longer set a resolution. Instead, what you can do is drag and pull the window size out and the game adjusts automagically.
Fork NOW. Jesus Christ, why would you ever think is a good idea?

Setting your resolution is extremely important for performance reasons.

>>4920275
Didn't he make Sunder?

>>4920236
GZDoom is one of the most popular source ports for a legendary video game, this will fuck up modders, long time Doom fans and even newcomers
It's bad enough that nobody likes the default GZDoom settings
If we can't get rid of Graf or anyone like this, then >>4920280 might be the only option left

>>4920281
insane_gazebo did

>>4920236
SHUT THE FUCK UP WILDWEASEL, GOD.

>>4920280
>>4920284
I really want /g/zdoom to be a reality, mainly to put in features that a sane person would put in.

>>4920293
he's not wrong, the [img] thing is an entirely other matter

if you're going to be mad, be mad at something relevant, nigger

>>4920293
>inventing reasons to be mad at the wrong person

Christ, even as someone that PREFERS Gzdoom to something like Zandronum, this just pisses me off. Why would something this disruptive and pointless be added? Why do we have "lens effects" (that look terrible), bloom, SSAO, dynamic lights with SHADOWMAPS, but placing decals on floors and ceilings still isn't a thing and requires flat sprites? Why? Why? WHY?

>>4920304
It's like the Youtube of source ports

>>4920304
Graf's a retard and has the most skewed priorities. He prefers graphics over anything practical, such as what you said and online play.

You're right, I should actually be angry at this bullshit.

>>4920310
>I actually never considered people needing precise screen sizes for whatever reason.

graf is literally a sociopath holy shit

>I already said, the mode change was removed because it was a source of endless problems
I like how he doesn't actually explain what this means or give any kind of examples of them.

>>4920270
A faster-moving fist would deal more damage, for the same reason as a faster-moving bullet.

I wonder how much damage this is gonna do to people who have fixed HUD sizes in their mods?

>THREAD LOCKED

>thread gets locked

>p-p-people are disagreeing!!!!
>rachael hurriedly slams the lock button on the thread

>>4920294
>/g/
>put in features
>sane
i'll make the logo

>>4920310
>I actually never considered people needing precise screen sizes for whatever reason.
Now I see why weaponsprites constantly shifting pixels around are a thing
Countering the argument "but its hard to do in GL", well other GL ports like prBoom+ did it just fine.

Anyway. What do I do with this puzzle?
Is this some kind of Sudoku thing? I cant figure it out.

>The responses here are starting to get a little vitriolic
Oh fuck off Rachel, you simpering fucking sycophant.

>>4920280
>>4920284
A fork will never happen, give it up. You've been saying the same shit for years. None of you know how to do it and the people that do couldn't care less.

>>4920368
Noclip.

>>4920372

This is unfortunately the truth. There's only two options, either eat shit or walk away.

>>4920372
You're a defeatist stain of shit, Institutional Inertia is your name.

>>4920171
Is that just the texture replacements? I liked the look of those but the original mod had a bunch of other shit I wasn't interested in

>The responses here are starting to get a little vitriolic
>If you feel strongly about it, fine, but be nice!
rachael is the whiniest, most hand-wringing, simpering idiotic bitch i have ever seen

>>4920236

>>4920379
Cool insults. That's all you can do, just talk shit and try to make yourself feel better over the fact that a fork will never happen.

>>4920215
>download wad because it looks awesome visually
>gameplay is horribly unfun
>have to fight hordes of barons, cacos, etc. without nearly enough ammo and not even a super shotgun

I'm not a programmer by any means but how hard is it maintain the current method of changing resolution?

>>4920384
She always says that when anyone disagrees, even if it's totally peaceful and reasonable discussion, because Graf would get triggered

>>4920392
I heard that Graf is laying groundwork for a modern Vulkan render for gzdoom.

>>4920392
>>4920396
He specifically brought up Vulkan support as a reason for taking this out now

>>4920395
>why are people being so harsh to us?
>meanwhile, graf gets away with snapping at fucking everybody

>>4920401
Two wrongs don't make a right.

>>4920401
Graf is the golden child. He can do no wrong.

>>4920405
considering he just posted this:
>If you think you can do it better, feel free to fork the project and do what you want to have.
we are in full on denial mode from him and this feature isnt getting reverted that easily I think

>>4920401
It's so ridiculous. He'll go out of his way to personally attack people and shit on their wads if they disrespect GZDoom in any way.

>>4920404
But three lefts make a right, so let's keep on fucking going.

>>4920396
>>4920397
What the fuck is a Vulkan renderer?

>>4920415

>>4920415

>>4920420
It's a graphics API like OpenGL.

>>4920380
Yeah, these are only textures buddy. They don't mess with gameplay.

>>4920420
Less code-bloated renderer.
>>4920427
Sucessor of OpenGL in case.

>>4920420
something made to pander to the 5 or 6 people that still use amd.

>>4920420
Direct3D, OpenGL, Metal, and Vulkan are some examples of low-level GPU rendering APIs. The rendering system is the part of the game engine that translates all the objects and scenery into a set of function calls to one of these APIs.

Right now, GZDoom targets OpenGL, which is pretty old (1.0 was released in 1992) and modern computers are starting to drop support for it. Vulkan is lower-level and more powerful. Many engines have made the switch already.

>>4920428
Thanks

So, does that mean that everyone on the old hardware that cant handle Vulkan will get fucked?

>>4920435
They can use old versions or upgrade their damn hardware already

>>4920434
No problem my man, have a good time. The Hexen textures go well with GMOTA if you like playing that.

>>4920436
>They can use old versions
Not if mods are made to work exclusively with versions that come after, which happens often.

>>4920439
If you don't replace your hardware every year how do you expect to play Doom?

>>4920440
It's enough to have a computer from this decade.

>>4920304
Bros are we ever going to have floor decals? Give it to me straight

>>4920374
Anon.
One day you'll have to complete a puzzle irl.
And won't be able to just noclip it.
Then you'll be sorry.

>>4920236
This is hilarious. My computer can't handle GZdoom at all though so it doesn't really effect me.

>>4920390
That's how I felt with Stardate 20X6, 20x7, Sunlust, and Swim With the Whales. Beautiful maps, bad gameplay.

>>4920273
There are few Skillsaw maps I would actually consider slaughter maps.

>>4918698
Well, there are Id Tech 1 sourceports, Quake 1/IDTech2 sourceports, Quake 2 sourceports, Marathon sourceports and a couple of Build engine sourceports. Why no Dark Engine or Unreal Enginee sourceports?
Also, Hooray for System Shock 1's source code finally being publicly revealed to have been recovered!

>>4920459
I haven't played those yet. Do they have a reasonable amount of ammo at least? I can appreciate slaughter when you're given the proper tools. Like Vanguard is very fun.
>>4920469
Is NewDark not enough?

>>4920469
Shockolate is a SS1 source port.

>>4920453
I'm already sorry. I'm one of the sorriest pieces of shit you'll ever meet. I blew it lad. Don't be like me. Make something of yourself.

hehe what an mess *snap creckle*

>>4920386
Well, there's still Zandronum, Zdaemon, and Chocolate Doom.

>>4920091
Pretty sweet. Thanks for sharing.

>>4920471
I thought NewDark got abandoned a few years ago...

>>4920104
Has this texture been used yet?

>>4920472
Finally!

>>4920486
Fuck you, Doomgirls are great.

>>4920502
Doomgirl (male)

>>4920236
is it me or did graf shift the blame of cooke?

>>4918698

>>4920512
>>4920236
>>4920248
#DUMPGRAF
Boy am I even gladder that I have not just an earlier version of GZDoom, but also skulltag and the Zip files for chocolate doom.

>>4920517
i want to make a cashier and SONOFABITCHMUSTPAY joke but i cant think of anything

>>4920509
>>4920502
A doomgirl-type WAD but its a TerryWAD with a Terrytrap with dialog from Terry involving lady parts

>thread is locked again

>>4920519
I smell some potential here, anon.

>>4920104

Hah, looks great. Nice work.

>>4920509
No. Girl (female).

>>4920512
I suppose.

>RACHAEL LOCKED THE THREAD AGAIN

>>4920236
>Tfw it got sent to the hall of unpleasantness

>This thread has demonstrated that some people really just need to walk the fuck away from the keyboard - get a breath of fresh air, smell the roses, before they come back to post shit.
>I will say some healthy discussion occurred, but some unhealthy stuff happened, too, and it's just better if people try to take a moment and understand what is happening from ALL sides, rather than resorting to insults and sarcasm to get their point across.
HOW FUCKING THIN IS YOUR SKIN

>>4920538
>This thread has demonstrated that some people really just need to walk the fuck away from the keyboard - get a breath of fresh air, smell the roses, before they come back to post shit.
Wait. Didn't Racheal just admit to doing stupid under pressure though?

if the thread is getting too fucking inflammatory, be a fucking moderator. delete posts, warn users, split shit. bunking the entire discussion just because USERS ARE BEING TOO MEEN FOR ME is fucking stupid

>>4920457
just curious what engine do you use for doom and stuff then? just zdoom if that? i love hearing about retro fps fans' computers because unlike a lot of gamers computers they're WAY behind the times

>>4920517
i love Blood so much. i feel like even if i had the budget to make my dream game with no limits whatsoever, all i would do is remake blood. it's that perfect for me.

>>4920542
If you let users pull you around like a little bitch, then you don't deserve to have any form of authority.

Why the fuck does guncaster crash every time i pick a difficulty ??? Says very fatal error i have had nothing but problems with this wad

>Graf doesn't notice that unnatural resolutions make graphics look crap because he always has filters on

so, what the fuck is this whole thing about?
you have to drag the window to pixel perfect resolution by hand?

Hey, Marisa, phantombeta, you can stop talking shit about us.

>>4920562
They removed resolution options because they thought it'd be cool and allow for more control to reorient your window by hand, pixel by pixel, without realizing that there's a fundamental reason why games don't do this, and scale to pre-set resolutions when window-resized.

>>4920565
>profile pic is some furry/scalie shit
Everytime

>>4920565
>it's always the same people talking shit, it's always term and ispook and ablooblooboo
man, fuck the users for trying to discuss things in a discussion board, right?

>>4920567
I've never seen a game that "scales to pre-set resolutions" when resizing the window.

>>4920575
That's pretty funny that a tripfag said that.

>The absolute state of the zdoom forums

>>4920581
>tripfag
uh... dude...

>>4920584
Should have clarified. Marisa was a tripfag until recently.

>>4919969
is this WRW armory Flak cannon?

>>4920372
WHO CARES IT WILL FUCK ADS

I RATHER HAVE FUCKING BETHESDA RUNNING THE PORT THAN FUCKING GRAF AT THIS RATE! THAT FUCKING AUTIST CANT MAKE PORTS!

its too much to ask for a quakespasm or Quake2xp/yamagi/kmq/Q2pro compatibility port? even fucking doomsday had more potential

>those meanie weanie 4channers ruined the discussion

what fucking year is it

>>4920587
Funny you tell me that, because I'm Marisa.

>>4920603
Then...you should know you tripfagged a lot until recently?

>>4920236
>Graf keeps threatening to leave
Good. Leave, you no-fun fucking kraut. You turned GZDoom into a convoluted fucking mess of an engine because of your completely arbitrary development restrictions.

>>4920603
You should also know better than to shift blame on us, you utter troglodyte.

>>4920603
No. I am Marisa.

>>4920605
Yeah, but I'm not the one shitting up the thread.

I really think dropping the trip was a mistake, it just results in paranoid finger-pointing.

>>4920614
Nice try, Kegan.

I guess "the costumer is always right" doesn't apply there, huh
Can't wait for when everyone stops using GZDoom and the source port is only used by Graf, instead of players or modders

>>4920627
>Yeah, but I'm not the one shitting up the thread.
No, you're just shitting up Discords.

>>4920614
>>4920603
You're both wrong! I AM Marisa!

>>4920631
OH

>>4920631
damn

>>4920631
DAMN

>>4920631

>>4920629
Stop it, iSpook.

>>4920631
lmao

>>4920629
I was genuinely confused reading this and I thought I had made a post I didn't actually make

>>4920639
>>4920640
stop it, eric

>>4920645

Hush, Linguica.

>>4920648
go away, rachael

its time to force Graf and rachel out of doom ports

>>4920653
Hi Graf.

>>4920654
THE REVOLUTION HAS BEGUUUUUUUUUUN

>>4920480
But the reason people would use gzdoom in the first place is because it's the one with features that other source ports don't have and more importantly a lot of mods are made to work exclusively with it, due to said features.

>>4920236
I'm genuinely fucking mad about this. The thread got locked for unpleasant replies which I understand but they refused to listen to the genuine criticisms and I think this is really fucking dumb. The whole point of source ports like GZDoom is that you can set it up yourself and do whatever the fuck you want with it by configuring a bunch of shit yourself. Want windowed mode to work like that? You can tick it in options. Now? Graf is fucking forcing you to use that. Fuck off, cunt. I want all of my pixels dedicated to doom.

>>4920660
>The thread got locked for unpleasant replies which I understand
There was literally one single post that was unpleasant/unconstructive.

What the fuck happened to this thread,why do discord fags think anyone cares about them and their faggy posts

>>4920660
>I want all of my pixels dedicated to doom
explain

>>4920662
Let me rephrase that, I understand that there were unconstructive, unpleasant posts in the thread. What I don't fucking understand though is how they couldn't just delete them, which is something they do for posts like that in threads anyways. It feels to me like they're just trying to stifle genuine discussion early.

>>4920664
You heard me niggerfaggot.

>>4920595
Bethesda would charge you for it, have twice as many bugs which include gamebreaking ones and make modders charge for their work.

its time to force zand or doomsday as the best doom ports

>>4920667
that's not an explanation

>>4920567
What happens exactly if you do that, if you don't mind me asking?

>>4920671
Neither is your mom.

>>4920674

>>4920667
Because there's a thread for it in feature suggestions. By /Rachael/.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=61375

>>4920595
>its too much to ask for a quakespasm or Quake2xp/yamagi/kmq/Q2pro compatibility port? even fucking doomsday had more potential

>tfw people are mad at Graf's decision about removing the excsluvie fullscreen because they think the primary purpose of GZDoom is just make Doom work on newer machines, not push extensive moddability and also be an engine for standalone games other than Doom.

Install PrBoom+ if you want Quakespasm equivalent, faggot.

P.S: Doomsday had potential in being a retarded Source Port that makes Doom look like a poorly made PlayStation 1 game.

>>4920681
Fuck you Marisa let me be outraged

>>4920687
Graf, neck yourself because im closer to send the entire Zdoom forums and GCD private dev to Tim and Sync on QC discord

and how id would love to get their hands on GZD SRC and rights

Uh, what exactly is the problem of replacing a limited number of resolutions to an infinite number?

someone remind me again why he did this when he's having trouble implementing a viable solution? Why couldn't he have done work on an alternative before doing this retarded shit?

>>4920691
If you're gonna tell new id about this, can you tell former id too?
I wanna see Carmack's reaction to Graf's code

>>4920692
People simply bought into the "exclusive fullscreen" meme and are just buttmad that gzdoom no longer has it.

>>4920697
>I wanna see Carmack's reaction to Graf's code
holy shit me too

>>4920696
Better yet, why not warn people and take in suggestions to allow for mitigating the problems or so forth before doing it?

>>4920692
preset resolutions are a Big Thing and removing them all (without the knowledge that there was actually a replacement) is Fucking Stupid

>>4920469
>Why no Unreal Enginee sourceports
There's no public source code sadly. Tim Sweeney said that UE1 might go open source one day though

>>4920692
>I want to play at 1280x960, so that a HUD designed for 640x480 would not look like shit!
>well tough tits, you now have to imprecisely drag your window to that size instead of selecting from a neat menu because Graf does not now how few pixels off can make a difference

>>4920697
1 person alone can't do this, it needs the entire weaponized autism of /vr/doom to make this work

>>4920707
This is why I hate when coders basically get to circlejerk about what is added or don't and push shit a lot of people don't like just because they want it, even though it's clearly still in development. You can't just gut out a feature people still use without a valid replacement, and no, dragging the fucking window by hand is not a replacement.

What the absolute fuck was he thinking would happen? I'd totally be open to a new way of trying shit if he ACTUALLY HAD A WAY TO BEGIN WITH.

>>4920236
>locked
like clockwork

>>4920469
>>4920710
IIRC that is because unlike idTech which moves in leaps and was rewritten between generations, UEngine evolution was far more gradual so there may be traces of the old code in the newer versions, however residual they might be, which leads to all sorts of problems should the source e released, both legal and not

>>4920567
>without realizing that there's a fundamental reason why games don't do this
Games do do this though? Never played Starcraft 2 before?

>>4920603
Stop liking such shit touhous. Switch over to something that doesn't make people puke, like Meiling or Youmu.

>>4920236
this is really autistic, you can't even set it through the console

>>4920697
He'll probably get giddy about the fact you can jump and crouch.

>>4920670
>doomsday

I use it because I like Legend Farewell Edition for Hexen and Wrath of Magic for Heretic a ton but that engine is total ass man.

>>4920712
Are you blind, anon? See >>4920681

>>4920727
>Meiling
Confirmed plebeian taste.

>>4920724
A lot of games have dropped exclusive fullscreen. Those that let you "pick resolutions" actually just change the internal scaling (which gzdoom can do, too).

>>4920713
Oh god, please

>>4920256
I'm going to switch to Build when someone makes a level editor of this century

>>4920741
this, duke builder when

>>4920736
>Are you blind, anon? See
cool, a thread that was made literally just now makes up for it

>>4920736
>Are you blind, anon
here's a thing, they considered doing that only AFTER the outrage over removal of a basic feature.

They shouldv'e gone "Hey, we can't do exclusive fullscreen with modern OS since its obsolete, and we'll do better off without it, use resolution scaling for that. Windowed mode resolution is tied to the window size and the menu setting will now only change the window size - the resolution will follow"

Instead they went "Lol no resolutions for you now, drag the window!"

>>4920736
Alright Marisa list your top 10 favorite touhous

>>4920736
>Are you blind
are you

>>4920752
>Instead they went "Lol no resolutions for you now, drag the window!"

Worse, they suggested a third-party application.
Well, by "they" it was actually Cooke, who got thrown under the bus.
And then blamed the users for the "toxic" dialogue and it's the mean old 4channers like Term and iSpook and Mike12 that ruined the discussion.

>>4920754
Oh no don't do that to me, last time I tried to do a Touhou sort I spent a whole day in there.

>>4920758
isn't cactus literally a moderator

isn't term like one of the most positive people there

>>4920765
yes and yes

>>4920765
Yes.

>>4920763
Okay, at least answer this:
Are Youmou and Junko high up there?

>>4920765
term is our favorite boy, even if he gets bored fast of his projects.

When Term gave up Samsara, did he ever release resources or stuff with the prisoner in there?

>>4920769
Yes

>>4920765
yes. one 4channer actively wrangles the community, one encourages people to make and play new stuff and shows how stuff is made, and many other continue to mod and make shit for the engine.
throwing everyone under a generic blanket and blaming them is a shitty thing to do.

now that being said, it's not like the entire staff say that.

>>4920773
I respect your taste

>>4920778
yeah. The fact of the matter is /doom/ has basically become another major Doom community spot and it's fucking stupid that Graf dismisses it as a bunch of trolls just because it shares the same website space with the likes of /b/ and /pol/.

>>4920770

You're going to make me blush. Thanks.

>>4920772

I didn't. At the time I was optimistic and thought it would simply be "on hold" and I could come back to it later, so I just kept the stuff.
I think I still have it, but it's a couple external hard drives back. I'll see if I can dig it up--no promises, but I'll still look.

>>4920787
It's easy to associate a website with its most noticeable stereotypes, specially in an anonymous imageboard like 4chan.
It'd be like ignoring Term or Kinsie because they just happen to be on Tumblr, so you end up assuming they're Voltron shippers.

>>4920795
i unironically want to see kinsie writing shipping discourse now

>>4920236
Why not just have 2 optional fields... like...
W[640] X H[480]
Wouldn't that be easy as fuck? Your automagic bullshit could still be a toggle-able option.

>relocate resolution changes to a third party program
absolutely fucking awesome idea graf, literally the master of the universe levels of intelligence

>>4920797
That has already been suggested and I hope it gets added.

>>4920798
That was major cooke's idea.

>>4920519
Skulltag doesn't get enough love on here. It's pretty dam good.

>>4920802
Whoever's idea it was, it is a bad idea

>>4920804
Skulltag is Dead, and Zand is worse

>>4920758
This is why I don't really post on other forums much. People get real touchy all at once when you call them out on their bullshit. Here you can call people twats and so long as you're being semi constructive about it no one is hurt.
Because no one knows who you are.
And you don't know who they are.
So you CAN'T take it personally.
And if you do you're a faggot.

>>4920810
I have to be honest that what helped me in see the problems of what i was doing with my mod was exactly that, lol.

>>4920810
I also want to add that Rachael's post about how to be a constructive poster was a long winded way to call a specific person an asshole.

No wonder people get pissed at them constantly. They must have Asperger's or something to be that socially oblivious.

So what can be done about this recent development?
We all now how the story goes, unpopular thing happens, the party responsible plays the victim and doubles down, everyone stays mad and nobody wins.
Now what?

>>4920821
do as everyone is asking for a long time, a proper source port, but no one here besides M210 knows how to program, and he's hands full on GDX

>>4920821
Simple, punish the party responsible.

>>4920821
Nothing bad is going to happen. dpjudas swooped in to clarify things that should've been said in the OP:

>1) The list was queried from the display driver. A concept utterly obsolete and in practice a hard-coded list in the display driver. Legacy resolutions like 1024x768, 800x600, which all were incorrect as the hardware doesn't actually support any of those resolutions. Modern display technology only supports one resolution as they aren't CRT displays.
>2) Asking the typical user about the full screen resolution is bad UI as the answer in 99.95% of all cases is.. the actual monitor resolution. Why do you think modern newer games just ask you if it should be fullscreen + a scale factor. Apparently not only are we idiots based on the feedback, the entire gaming industry seems to be so!
>3) The code was very old, included broken obsolete concepts like the LB modes that no longer made sense (the general scaling system in GZDoom handles this via other settings for a while now). It also conflicted with #2 as it required the user to make a pointless obscure decision for the majority of users.
>4) The newer scaling code actually supports selecting specific resolutions. This made the old video selection code redundant. The list of options currently is pretty small, but it is trivialto add more to that list.
>5) OpenGL doesn't support exclusive full screen mode changes. What we had was always a hack. Due to #3 it meant any user that selected full screen would get their desktop icons rearranged. That really sucked!
Half the feedback currently seems to come from people that have no idea what scaling features GZDoom actually has, nor puts much consideration into why we are trying to adjust the menu in the first place.
It seems like we could use some way to specify specific windowed geometry sizes, as apparently some used that feature in the old video list. That's more or less the only useful conclusions I've been able to draw from this so far.

>>4920827
>Nothing bad is going to happen.
I tried out the new build. The OpenGL renderer runs like shit. I don't know what else is happening behind the scenes but it's unplayably slow.

>>4920821
from the sounds of things it's all going to be okay once everything is hammered out, cooke is just a fucking retard that sperged out and in trying to prevent a potential panic managed to create the worst possible one.

>>4920848
Maybe you should use some 3rd party optimization software you fucking scrub.
git gud

>>4920821
nothing except call cooke, rachael, and graf faggots

turns out what they're doing is perfectly fine and cooke shat the bed, graf handled things in the usual way, and rachael was a handwringing crybaby.
dpjudas clarified what's actually happening, it's just being replaced with a more efficient way to do the exact same thing.

>>4920712
Boy do you look stupid now.
>>4920827

>>4920856
Considering this was clarified /after the fact/ by a completely different person?
No.

Get that stick out of your ass.

Absolutely mesmerizing.

(NewHub4)

>>4920860
That has nothing to do with the fact that you were wrong, your assumption was just your childish bias making shit up about the most pessimistic scenario possible before you even knew what the update was. Get over it. You were wrong, objectively. To claim that it doesn't count because someone else clarified it is the pettiest thing you could do in an attempt to defend yourself and only makes you look even worse. Way to make the anti-graf sentiment here look bad, genius.

>>4920853
It's weird how their idiosyncrasies are intolerable in situations like this.

It's like in those horror movies where you have a few people stuck in an elevator, or cabin or something and they're instantly at everyone's throats and freaking out until Heroman calmly takes control of the situation.
Thanks dpjudas.
It's a shame, though, that in those movies one of those assholes usually stabs Heroman in the back...

>>4920860
>Considering this was clarified /after the fact/
Wrong, the post was made on the zdoom thread before you posted.

I'd hate to go off topic, but it turns out I didn't give these guys a makeover for "Shut up and Die" in the original Anyone got an idea?

I'm looking for more class-based randomizer wads like Doomzone. Any good ones?

>>4920881
Who are you talking about?
I haven't payed attention for this mod, sorry

>>4920871
>>4920879
That wasn't even me, I'm telling you to get the stick out of your ass because expecting people to keep up to date with every forum topic posted is faggotry.

>>4920885
To be honest? To anyone who wants to reply. People who've played the original mod (Shut up and bleed) probably will have better advice, but I'm not really aiming my question at anyone specific.

>>4920865
Neat

>>4920486
hey buddy, you got a source on that doomgal in the lower right

>>4920809
>skulltag is dead
True
>Zandronum is worse
I don't think its THAT bad but if you do, stop using it

Anybody know if there's some kind of convenient Master Levels launcher for Chocolate Doom/Crispy Doom? Haven't really been able to find anything.

>>4920903
http://captainanaugi.tumblr.com/tagged/doom

>>4920909
hey thanks friend
the helmet is still on so i can pretend it's crash while fapping to it

>>4920236

>>4920914
see
>>4920827

>>4920904
>mfw i'm pretty dam good at doom multiplayer but no one ever plays the fucking game.
I know i'd probably lose to anyone who knows what there doing but idk every time I go on those servers I do pretty well against the 4 people on there.

>>4920917
>but no one ever plays the fucking game.
what.

>>4920502

you know what would be cool
a Kamen Rider inspired gameplay mod

>>4920904
its mostly because of the WASTED potential that is ZD, which is now played with fuckloads of complex doom servers, or 8-bitdm without any hope of anyone improving them with mods like Megaman X and such, it gets boring.

>>4920925
Didn't we discuss this several threads back?

>>4920928
If you did I totally missed it.

>>4920927
Everytime I go on Doomseeker there's servers that aren't either of those, including right now. It seems like you don't actually care about playing what you want and just want to complain more than anything about things that are popular. You could also arrange your own servers with /doom/ just like the blood guy did these past 2 threads and completely overthrow that "issue" of yours, but since you don't actually care you don't bother, complaining is easier and feels better.

Fuck yeah an RGA server is on.

>>4920927
Welp, maybe someday there will be more activity on single-player type mods and certain visual effects. Its definitely better than most versions of odafex and Vanllia Doom.

>>4920920

https://youtu.be/UnhrPeNoQfA

>normally play 4 or 5 levels of a wad before getting bored and quitting
>absolutely hate slaughter wads
>get doped up on alcohol, klonopin, xanax, and caffeine pills
>go through all of sunlust in one sitting

Truly being a wretched and disgusting degenerate is the path to Doom mastery.

>>4921042
hey buddy, i think you got the wrong board
the ha ha hate myself threads on /trash/ are two boards down

>>4920937
>You could also arrange your own servers with /doom/ just like the blood guy did these past 2 threads and completely overthrow that "issue" of yours
Bloodguy here, I stopped doing that because it's too difficult. The general is just too slow and it's hard to coordinate things when everyone's anonymous. It's best to organize these things over Discord or Steam.

>>4921039
makes you think

>>4920919
Doom multiplayer servers are graveyards. Filled to the brim with bots.

>>4920248
fucking graf

>>4921054
The hell are you talking about? There's 183 human players right now.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&p=1064797#p1064797
kek

>>4921076
Kinsie's bants are hilarious. That's the one thing I love about the 4chan guys, they know how to be funny while making a point without being LOL NIGGERZ AMIRITE?

>>4921046
Want to borrow some kpins and xannies? Feels good. Play good.

>>4921076
Of course he gets a warning. Fucking Rachael and Graf ruining the Doom community because of their autism.

>>4920236
Why the fuck?

>>4921086
Look, in Graf's defense, as much of an ass as he is sometimes, he's way too important to the community to just shove him away with such ease. Remember, you may not want Graf to touch a lot of your stuff, so do I, but without Graf nobody else is remotely insane enough to touch the ZScript parser and the arcane crap of the engine. It's a somewhat delicate matter that absolutely cannot be handled with extremes, because both extremes will result in the community shattering eventually. And don't count on another dpJudas to just pop in anytime soon.

>>4918698
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/257239268
What Quake Sourceport is this??

>>4921076
Holy shit they're thin-skinned. It's a game engine, get over it lmao

>>4921109
Rated M for Mad on the Internet.

>>4921076
i keep telling you guys, Doomsday with ZD and GZD source code or Zand is our last hope, if not id taking the reins

>>4921142
>Doomsday with ZD and GZD source code or Zand is our last hope
Ah yes, just take the code and put it over there, that'll work out perfectly and solve everything.

>>4921076
you see, even Doomworld had enough of Rachel and Graf's Autistic thin skinned bullshit
>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101560-gzdoom-lags-for-bizarre-reasons-eg-not-picking-up-a-chaingun/

>>4921149
yeah graf because even you can't program your own autsitic bullshit

now KYS with a .45 FMJ magnum to your head, please

>>4921153
You okay buddy?