/vr/ - Retro Games

>>4905673
that's like asking someone to define fun for you. try shit out. if you like a game, keep playing. if it's not your thing, drop it. games aren't meant to be a chore.

Same way you get into new games. If you see something that looks interesting, try it out. If you don’t see anything you like, move on.

>>4905673
>Final Doom (use PrBoom+)
>Duke Nukem 3D (EDuke32)
>Blood (really hard, but really fun)
>Rise Of The Triad (use WinRottGL, without the 3D models, also if you like this game try out the 2013 remake)
>Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES or SNES, either is great)
>Super Castlevania
>Castlevania Chronicles
>Castlevania Harmony Of Dissonance
>Return To Castle Wolfenstein
Half-Life (don't get the Steam version, Valve broke it like fuck, pirate an old CD release instead, also look for YourEvilTwin's HD Pack if you think the original game looks a bit too chunky and crude, that version of the pack is much better and less bothersome than the official HD pack release)
>Final Fantasy 5
>Baldur's Gate (1&2)
>Diablo (Belzebub is a good mod which breathes a little bit of new life into the game, as well as letting you play it in HD and on modern systems, it changes the game quite a lot though, so it's hardly the vanilla experience, maybe try the original game first, then look at the mod)
>Starcraft
>Warcraft 2
>Earthbound
>Chrono Trigger (DS version gives you the gorgeous Playstation anime cutscenes, without having to wait for the game to stop and load at each screen transition)
>Final Fight 3
>Super Streetfighter 2 Turbo
>Harvest Moon
>Simcity 2000 or 3000
>Wario Land 1 & 2

Pick some of these games, get them emulated, buy a port on a new console, or pirate them and play them with a sourceport, it's real easy, whichever of these ways you go.

If you get stuck in a game, look up online what to do specifically, but don't spoil yourself. Make it a point to try to get as far as possible, give the games a chance for at least a good 4 or 5 hours or so (for the ones which aren't really short), don't give up easily.

>Morrowind and Doom 2
Not bad, kid, though the original Doom I feel have better levels, and do check out Final Doom (Plutonia and TNT Evilution), they're tougher, but I think they have much better levels overall. There's also a lot of good usermade content.

Also, for emulating any old console game, I *strongly* encourage you use a gamepad of some sort. These games are misery to play on keyboard, or worse, touch screens.

Like anything decent does, a SNES USB gamepad, an XBox360 controller, a cheap Dual-Shock knockoff.
As long as there's enough buttons.

>>4905673
First of all, define what genre interests you.
Then look what people consider "classics" in said genre.
Then simply try things out.
Abandonia is your friend.

I was born in '83 and as far as I'm concerned, the only retro games that I'm still capable of enjoying to any degree are strategies, adventure and a handful of RPGs. I absolutely loath platformers now, despite they made the bulk of games I've played through the 90s.
Does it mean such attitude it going to work for you? Maybe. But most likely it won't. Just try things out.

>>4905673
Please don't play retrogames, stick to modern stuff and /v/. Thank you, have a nice day.

>>4905846
Also, try more "modern" things first. The main bottleneck in getting into retro games is usually within "non-standard" control scheme and different weird quirks. The deeper you dive, the more likely it is for a game to have really damn weird controls OR being written for different type of controller than the one you have at hand.
So first of all, try mid and early 90s stuff first. They are your safer bets, since those games are going to have more familiarity to you on gameplay level.
For example, I absolutely LOVE original Wasteland, but in the same hand I know it is close to impossible to play by someone without the manual at hand and a key-bind list right in front of them, just because the entire interface and controls are... quirky from modern perspective, to put it mildly. But once you get through that, you have one of the best RPGs ever made. Meanwhile, within the very same genre, we have Albion, which is almost just as fun, while in the same hand being easily accessible to everyone.

tl;dr try things from mid 90s first.

Read a lot about vidya history and keep trying the classic games until you actually start enjoying them.

May not work for everyone, but I find that getting immersed in the context is essential to really enjoy an era of games. Some of my favorites of today I could barely stand at one point, before I "broke the ice" so to speak.
One thing about old games is that manuals were important. Like, often basically essential to figure out what the game is about. Get scans of the manuals, read the stories, fluff content and gameplay tips. This goes double for RPGs, strategy and adventure games.

>>4905673
Do what the rest of us do, try games and see which ones you like.

Not all people like all games. There are some games in >>4905737 which I think are timeless classics and will fight anyone who disagrees, and there are some in that list I think are unplayable garbage.

It's okay not to like the "popular" games. I fucking hate Zelda and JRPGs.

If you are really stuck for titles, read the "Games which defined the <system>" lists on RacketBoy, or just Google "Top 100 SNES/Genesis games" and you'll find heaps of lists. For DOS, sort Abandonia or MyAbandonware by rating or downloads, or look for that big image "worthwhile DOS games" made up of floppy disk label pictures.

>>4905880
Out of interest, which ones do you not like? The GBA/DS Vanias are kind of controversial around here, so I assume those, but generally I just rattled off a bunch of old games which I like and which are easy to get into.

There's a few which I think would be a bit more esoteric to get into, and honestly Blood would fit there just for being so fucking mean and twitchy.

>>4905673
Become so broke that you can't afford new games and then all you'll have is old games to play...having a dogshit old PC also helps so you can't just torrent new PC games.

>Any suggestions on games
Megaman series on NES (try 2, 3 or 4)
Original UFO:Enemy Unknown/X-Com Ufo Defense (play it easily on modern PCs with OpenXCom)
Tyrian (freeware source ports nowdays)
Diablo 1

>how to get the motivation to play them and not modern games?
They're good and you'll discover concepts and genres that are rare in modern games

>>4906071
I really hate ROTT. I assume you know the history of Tom Hall and Doom, the best thing iD ever did was fire Tom. ROTT just seems like a shitty inferior technology Wolf3D clone trying to be anything even close to Doom and failing in every way. It's so unengaging and cringeworthy, even Corridor 7 and Blake Stone have more coherent atmosphere and better gameplay, and those suck too.

I don't like JRPGs so FF, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound are out.

I actually love the GBA/DS vanias that I've played. I think DoS has the best gameplay of the whole CV series, though Soma's such a clueless whiny baby he ruins the story. SotN had the best story by far, they'll never beat that. (I even like CotM which Iga later struck from canon and bitched out the DSS then literally copied it as the TSS in AoS/DoS)

I do like a lot of the games you posted, and I realise even the games I don't like are popular so it's a good list for OP to explore. We all have different tastes and that's perfectly fine.

start with SNES/Genesis or newer, earlier stuff is good too but a lot of it has some QoL issues you might not be able to deal with just yet.

there area few good youtube channels like classic game room, thorhighheels, and game sack that primarily cover retro games in a non-annoying way. these are a good way to find interesting games to play. avoid metaljesusrocks and his crew.

if you like doom, try quake and powerslave. maybe check out king of dragon pass if you like the lore and world of morrowind.

the hardest stuff to get into is early 3D and pre-NES games. these are in a weird place control-wise. imo you're better off with the saturn than the ps1 just due to the controller. in fact, if you want to emulate you should probably consider picking up a saturn controller and adapter. it's easily the best controller of all time.

don't start zelda and metroid with the NES entries. they hold up the worst of the major nintendo titles on those consoles imo. pretty much every other first party nintendo game on that platform is good.

the most intuitive games for older consoles are action games. good ones are the mario games, gunstar heroes, gimmick, blaster master, etc.

>>4905673
Watch more youtube videos of spastic effeminate children and wish you could be as much of a man a them. It's the only way to be sure.

>>4906112
Ah, I see.
I think maybe Tom wasn't so suited for what Doom turned into, and he probably had shitty luck with how things turned out, but looking at Doom, among my very favorite levels are those which Tom started, and which were initially rejected, then were recycled and transformed by Sandy, like E2M2, E2M7, and D2M10. I feel they take the misplaced pseudo realism Tom thought he was supposed to go for, and then get twisted by Sandy into something really fun.
People hate on Sandy for his aesthetic choices (and some of his rushed levels for Doom 2), but he knows how to stage encounters and make the levels feel like good dungeon crawls.

Aside from that, I like Tom's quirky nature, and how that comes through in ROTT, even getting in make-up and costume to play the final boss, his humor also shows.
What I like about ROTT though, isn't the idea that it tries to compete with Doom (which it did, but not amazingly), more, that it takes all the features of Wolf3D, and improves them a thousandfold, while taking Wolf3D's 'obsolete' arcade features, and goes completely wild with it.
ROTT is basically an arcade style shmup in a first person format; you select your character (who have differing stats), your base weapons have unlimited ammo, and you can carry up to two extra powerful weapons, but they have limited ammo (to me, this is a very shmup way to do things).
You collect tokens for score, look for secrets, there's absolutely crazy powerups like Shrooms Mode, God Mode, and Dog Mode, and most importantly, the game juxtaposes photorealistic actors with completely surreal and near cartoonish gore (burnt skeletons collapsing with xylophone noises, flying severed hands flipping you the bird, eyeballs soaring towards you, sometimes a gibbing enemy chucks two skulls, etc).

ROTT would have made a pretty perfect coin-op arcade game in its day, just a few feet away from a Mortal Kombat machine. That is how I feel.

>>4905737
>Recommending PrBoom+
>SNES Mario 3
>SCIV
>Harmony of fucking Dissonance
>Not realising the unbroken original Half-Life is on Steam too
>Final Fight 3
Please don't listen to this man's opinions, OP.

>Plutonia and TNT
>Better levels
Pic related. 10,000 chaingunners are just out of shot behind them.

>>4905673
We've reached peak zoomer.

Start with the SNES and Genesis. There are zero (0) 8-bit games that are still worth playing today.

>>4905673
Best PC (not only IBM PC) games > best console games
But the shittiest games are shittier on PCs as well

>>4906242
You sound like a doublenigger.

>unbroken Half-Life
Nope, they didn't just fuck up Half-Life Source, they broke a shitload of things in the normal game too.
If you want unbroken Half-Life, you need to get the old Sierra published CD versions.

>Mario 3 on SNES
It's perfectly playable, and anyhow I suggested either. I doubt OP cares all that much about the minutae of jump physics (which can be patched, for what it's worth).

>PrBoom+
Perfect for some no frills gameplay. You can go for GZDoom if you want, but some people don't want anything flashy.

>Plutonia and TNT
Yes, they do have better levels over all.
I don't hate Doom 2, it has a bunch of good levels, but you'll never find anything as creative as Hunted in that game.

>baww revenants
>bawwww hitscanners
Don't get hit, bitch. Chaingunners basically gives away infighting to you.

>Final Fight 3
>Super Castlevania
What's your problems with those, faggot?

>How do I get the motivation to play retro games?
you don't
seriously, I don't see much sense in playing old games released before your DOB; personally, I play old stuff but it's mainly due to the nostalgia factor (I'm 35)

someone born in the late 90s or even in the 00s and enjoying let's say Stonekeep is a riddle to me

>>4906714
'90 and I had a blast playing early 80s games, especially first adventure games that were made back then.
But I'm god-awful example, being a Pole and thus "catching up" for entire 90s and early 00s.

>>4906242
Fuck off, dickhead

>>4906714
I'm just as old as Wolfenstein 3D, a lot of the games I love, I would have been way too young to play when they came out, but I check them out because a lot of games from that era suit my tastes a lot. I also have a bunch of NES favorites older than me.

I don't think it's weird. Tetris ain't gonna like, suck, just because it came out years before OP was born, it's a fundamentally appealing game that touched generations, kids and adults alike were spellbound by it when it came out, and it still works on people today.
Games just have to be fundamentally good.

>>4906714

That makes no fucking sense whatsoever. I was born in 91 and I love the NES and Master System.

>>4905673
>I was born in 2000

I stopped reading here. I refuse to listen to a young shit such as yourself. Even if you said everything right (which you didn't) I still wouldn't want to listen to you. Get the fuck off of /vr/ and stay on /v/ you shit. There is nothing wrong with you preferring new games. Just stay in your own lane. You don't have to force yourself to play old games.

>>4908050
>t. 1998 kid

>>4905673
Hi pal, gonna list a variety of games and hope you have fun:

Super Mario World
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
Sonic the Hedgehog 3
Dynamite Headdy (best platformer of the 90's)
Final Fantasy IV/V/VI (people mark out for these games)
Chrono Trigger (tends to be a lot of people's first jRPG and with good reason)
Shadowrun
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Goldeneye 007/Perfect Dark (best FPS available on console at the time)
Half-Life
Duke Nukem 3D
Starcraft
Planescape Torment
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Super Metroid
Tetris
Tekken 3

>>4908109
Oh shit, I forgot to mention

Resident Evil (unique game if you haven't played old RE before)

Uh... It's not a job, we play old games because it's fun. You shouldn't need to motivate yourself to do things that are fun.

>>4909258

Also, nostalgia is a large factor. Recently played the first RE , haven't played it since I was about 8 and played it at a friend's house, I'm 30 now, brought me right back.

>>4905673
realize a lot of games are pretty rough around the edges and not as fun, or are exclusively multiplayer

try daggerfall with a grain of salt, it's fun.

>>4909265
Nostalgia is meaningless if the game in question is simply good.
Meanwhile, a shit game survives only thanks to nostalgia.

>>4906714
You are literally the worst thing about classic gaming. I despise you and wish your kind stopped caring about video games altogether.

>>4906236
>Sandy is cool
Yeah dude, you and I think similarly.

Romero did the first episode then they handed the rest of the unfinished Tom-Hall-realism nonsense to Sandy and said "here, you finish this" and he not only made the maps playable, he made them enjoyable. What a guy!

I love his visual style. Nobody else can use those awful blue and red textures like Sandy manages to. People have gotten reasonably good at emulating Romero's style (see DTWID) but not Sandy's style imo.

Interesting take on ROTT as a first person shmup. I wasn't really looking for that sort of game in the 90s, at least not as an FPS, so it makes sense it didn't appeal to me. I might try it again with that in mind. Thanks!

>>4905673
>tfw you're from '86

"Nostalgia glasses" are a stupid meme. There are good games and there are bad games. If people thought a shitty game was good "back in the day" it means nothing, it was still bad. You don't listen to terrible 70s garage rock recordings and go "ahh, it used to be good". No, it sucked, you just didn't know better.

>>4910228

I disagree. Nostalgia is part of the enjoyment, and several old games that were good at the time have AGED into being not good. The original Mario Kart and its derivatives is an example. It was genuinely good at the time, it did something new and interesting (third person cart-racing in wacky courses), but playing it nowadays is a pain because it feels very barebones compared to all the flashy stuff added in the sequels, and the graphics (though acceptable at the time) are nowadays bad enough to make it actually hard to play.

But with nostalgia these games can still offer a modicum of enjoyment. I recently fired up Wacky Wheels and played it for a bit, enjoying it almost purely from the nostalgia it gave me (played it a lot as a kid with my sister).

>>4910319

That is a very bad measure of what is bad and good though. If something is innovative and fun it will often be considered good. If later iterations makes this first foray seem crude and not fun in comparison, does that mean that the first foray was never good? That's seems like a weird thing to say. People liked it at the time because it was good at the time, but that doesn't mean it will be considered good eternally.

>>4910320
I played Mario Kart for the first time like a year ago. Never was into consoles so I didn't care about Kart games. It's legit a great game with fun tracks, it's not "obsolete" at all or whatever you're implying.
I played the DS sequel too, and it's pretty boring. AI is msde terrible so you can't fail.

Try Unreal Tournament. If that one doesn't moto you, none will.

>>4910320
Ever heard that anecdotal evidence is no evidence.
It's best put by anon directly above you: bad shit simply didn't survive and if it did, then it did thanks to people who were nostalgic toward it. Everything else ends up simply forgotten.

>>4910320
Yeah gonna disagree with you here. I find the new Mario Karts too flashy and concentrate on graphics and so much extra shit. SNES Mario Kart you can just sit down and play, you learn everything quickly, it's comfy to play thru it on easy but hard to master on hard. Almost perfect. F-Zero is the same.

>>4910320
Meanwhile Wacky Wheels and Skinny Kart are shit. They were shit when they were new and they're shit now. The only people who thought they were good were poor unfortunate kids who had no other racing games and didn't know any better.

That's nostalgia.

>>4910228
A mediocre game can also survive on nostalgia.

>>4910320
I think that sometimes a game can maybe be 'obsoleted' a bit if another game (perhaps a sequel), does all the same things but much better, however, if the game was actually good, it still retains merit.

For instance, Perfect Dark might be better than Goldeneye as a whole, but Goldeneye is still pretty fun for what it is, and Doom may be a far more advanced and exciting game than Wolfenstein 3D, making it pale in comparison, yet Wolfenstein 3D isn't terrible, it's still kinda fun.

>>4910314
>same age
I know that feeling.

>>4912248
>A mediocre game can also survive on nostalgia
What is Mortal Kombat

>>4912248
Mediocre game ends up forgotten, just like bad one.
In other words - if a game isn't genuinely good, the only things keeping it "around" is nostalgia and that's cancerous.

>>4912530
Mortal Kombat isn't maybe the strongest in gameplay, but it has lots of charm.

>>4905673
Read some respectable game magazines, get hyped.

>>4906242
>props to beautiful nes mario 3
based

its fuckin easy, even a 2000s kid can make it happen
>pregame the night before with a 90s documentary, or some n64 retrospective or something that covers the launch, expectations and lineup
>obtain a supply marijuana and beer, maybe dab concentrate
>DO NOT EMULATE, USE CRTs
>cant stress how important it is you slap in the cartridge, feel the controller and embrace the hardware limits
>wake up
>set the fucking mood and get a bowl of peanut butter crunch with heated milk but not too warm
>throw up some gfunk, light it up nigga
>https://youtu.be/Gn0IryqstFU
>brisk shower
>chromecast some late 80s and 90s commercials on the big screen at low volume, shit even some early 2000s
>have the battlestation nearby, or use a laptop and pull up nreboot.com or toonamiaftermath
>use stream chat to feel connected to others
>optional phone or tablet on a stand with some other stream
>have both super everdrive and everdrive 64 setups on two crts for easy swapping
>begin drinking or hit the rig
>play games based off of footage you find interesting and nothing else, listen to no one unless you are a hopeless pleb
>read threads online about peoples' first time with the game back in the day if you picked a classic
>try to stick to 1-2 major story games at a time, with maybe at most a couple fun arcadey games to break up the pace
>use headphones
>have swivel chair
>have no one around with no distractions to make it intimate
>during summer

do some variation of this and you may find as much enjoyment as I, who managed to cry tears of joy at several points where it felt like i was reliving my earliest gamer memories

geeahhh~

>>4915316
>obtain a supply marijuana and beer, maybe dab concentrate
>DO NOT EMULATE, USE CRTs

>>4915343
I know, those are the most important parts.

>>4915316

Unironically this. Earthbound music while high is an almost transcendent experience.

>>4915349
Some people enjoy games sober, some prefer displays which aren't chunky fuzzy shitboxes.

>>4915965
some people dont know what they want, and walk around depressed asking why vidya isnt as good as it used to be.

that's a last resort deal, if even that doesnt work you simply need to work on yourself before even thinking about making vidya as fun as it used to be

>>4916043
I still enjoy plenty of old games, and sober.

>>4908087
I'm '96

>>4905673
favourite retro games for me as aN 18 y/old zoomer
>yoshi's island
>megaman 2, 3, 5, & 6
>megaman X 1, 2, 4 & 5
>sonic 3 & knuckles
>ristar
>strider 2
>ys 3 (preferably the remake)
>seiken no densetsu 3 (fan translationà
>rocket knight adventures
>metal slug
>kirby's adventure (or gba version)
>kirby super star (or ds version)
>street fighter 3rd strike

>>4905673
yo, what's up, fellow youngfag here born in '99, I grew up playing Morrowind, Sim city 2000, Wolfenstien 3D, Diablo 2 and Starcraft, recently I've been trying to find games similar to those that I like, since you like morrowind and doom I'd suggest playing through (or at least trying) the first two elder scrolls games (they're free), both system shock 1 and 2, and the first two fallouts, they're all pretty cheap on steam, I haven't play a ton of other 'retro games' though so I'll probably be checking out some of the ones in this thread.

>>4910314
>>4912510
it used to be the best year to be born... now we're 32 year old boomers.

but hey, I look mid-20s, still a full head of hair and am still very good looking so it's alright.

>>4918572
If you liked Diablo 2, you should check out Diablo.
It's simpler in many ways, but a lot of the basic concepts apply.

Most quests aren't available in multiplayer, so I'd suggest starting out with singleplayer (not that D1 Battle.net wasn't a desolate wasteland a decade ago already).

If you want to do multiplayer with a pal, like the good old days of Diablo 2, then I'd suggest doing it with the Belzebub mod (though you should really do a run of vanilla Diablo to get a good idea of the base game).
It incorporates a few Diablo 2 features, such as being able to carry an extra weapon set, and having a storage for items (only it's huge and you can share it with your other characters). It not only adds some new quests and dungeons, but makes all of them work in multiplayer. Also it lets you pick a number of resolutions, including widescreen ones.
In some ways, I feel it gives the best of both worlds, shedding a lot of the excessive skinnerbox-tier stuff from 2, while adding some of its nicer quality of life improvements to 1.

>>4916804
92 you fuckin degenerates.

>tfw

>>4919302
Same.
Also, that game was weird, but oddly compelling.
I got mad at PacMan a lot, but I still wanted to see where things were going.

>>4905673
>I was born in 2000
Not retro. Mods. Let the you tube tell you what to think. Like the rest of your degeneration.

>>4920023

>>4919242
sounds cool, where could I get the base game from? Would it be on blizzard's site?

>>4920283
You could buy it I suppose, personally I'd just pirate it, because almost none of the people who worked on the original game gets paid for that nowadays.

Perhaps maybe Metzen worked on it or something, but he can fuck a pig.

>>4920297
I'm downloading the full game on my abandonware now, would you suggest playing through it like this or with hellfire first?

>>4920474
Hellfire is really... uh, unrefined, so to say, being a third party expansion (an authorized one).
Growing up with Diablo as a kid, loving it, and hearing for years about this rare expansion with all these cool new things, that sparked my imagination like crazy, and it mystified me. Actually getting to borrow it from a teacher in junior high, to burn my own copy, and then getting to play it (it wasn't easily available online from what I recall), in a few ways it lived up to my expectations, but in some ways not.

It gives you two new dungeons, and that's pretty cool, and it gives you a new character class, and a whole host of new unique items and usable items.
The problem is that a lot of Hellfire is kind of broken, the drop chances for unique items means you will just not be seeing many unique items at all, be they new or old, and there's some other bugs too. Also it dummies out multiplayer for you, and the new voice acting is pretty bad, both in audio quality and performance.
A lot of (but not all) of Hellfire's new content, is actually alpha/beta content from Diablo which is repurposed and reused, and sometimes a bit clumsily. It's kind of neat to see some of this stuff, but when you look at Belzebub, in my opinion it does this (reusing cut content), much better and with greater elegance.

I don't remember if Belzebub supported Hellfire (been a year or two since I played it), but if it did, or had support added in a later version, I would suggest trying it out there, because Hellfire is pretty rough around the edges, and I would expect Belzebub to handle and replace some of its things and do them better, because it certainly did when it came to things which did get featured in Hellfire.

>>4905673
You have to want to, you can't somehow force yourself to like them.
Maybe start by reading about developer or game series history for a few weeks, that might spark your interest and make you actually want to seek out certain titles or work by specific studios.
Also don't just play old or new games exclusively, mix it up and play everything.

Literally start with Super Mario if you are into action, play it until you find out you are supposed to go running through everything without stopping and realize how good old games can get.

After that branch out to arcade and DON'T try to 1cc, play the whole thing in one go the best you can (which will make you die but that's the way you figure out if a short game is worth it), play it for the controls first (ask yourself if they feel actually good, a lot don't so don't be afraid to just outright reject a game after cheesing though it with continues).

Also this >>4920601, consider old games a way to add more variety to the stuff you usually play, see it as a different style of game not as an old one (crappy "classic" old games like Genesis Altered Beast or outright broken ones are just crappy games after all, in these days emulation gives you options, and mods can fix a lot of hardware shortcomings and anything it can't fix then fuck it, it probably wasn't worth your time), think of indie stuff that uses pixels, it's new and it only looks old in your mind because you know it's related to 8-bit games. Try weird but well produced console games like Ecco or Sonic CD, they definitely feel like something that could come out today, except they were made decades ago.

>>4905673
This reminds me of the time I posted asking for help on getting motivated to start a stamp collection. Wait, what?

It sounds like you don't like retro games so don't play them. There are enough 1x and 2x year olds driving prices up as is.

>>4905673
You can make retro games fun by doing math/language exercises between levels. That kind of sugar coating really can be an effective study strategy.

>>4920474
AVOID HELLFIRE. Only install if you've already beaten the original game.

>>4920524
I'll say though that the new dungeons has some crunk music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_aJSGvJbJs

>>4921708
I can't get the normal game to work, it keeps crashing after the blizzard screen, I seriously tried to get it to work all day yesterday, go through dozens of forums trying everything I could find to fix it but it still won't work, I don't know what to do, I might just try the second one, most of the people having the same problem said they could run diablo 2 fine but not the first one

>>4922464
I recall if you turned off Windows Aero, it should work, and there should exist a basic .CMD file you can do to write the path of your install to, which kills the process when you start the game, and then runs it.

At least, that's what I did when I played Diablo on my Win 7 computer some years ago.

>>4910320
The original Mario Cart is still the second best, second only to 64.

>>4905851
this, retro communities are good because there are no zoomer scum in them, go back to led dit OP

>>4910320
Why are you here?

What worked for me was finding a developer whose games I had experience with and who have a good reputation and just play every game of theirs I could find. I wasn't really into shooting games until I just played through as much of Raizing's catalog as I could.

>>4905673
Seriously? You have the motivation to play the clucky, walking simulator Morrowind, but not other retro games?

>>4922847
>clucky walking simulator
nice bait

Anyways, thanks guys for all of your suggestions. Recently started playing Duke Nukem and a few old Nintendo games (Mario 64, Pokemon Stadium etc) and only have one more question to ask when emulating games:
Should I use controllers that are basically copies of the console I am emulating's controller (like USB N64 controller) or would a standard Xbox One controller be pretty universal?

Only playing one game at a time (excluding maybe multiplayer games) pretty much worked for me. Break at a walkthrough if you get stuck at least it's one less game on your list.

>>4923489
As long as it functions and has enough buttons, comfort really the priority.

>>4905737
This is such a big coincidence for me as i also play doom 2 and morrowind and was born in 2000. I spend most of my time playing half life or sven coop tho. I recently found out i love games like battletoads and castlevania.
Imma play deus ex soon more than likely

>>4924586
Man, haven't touched Sven-Coop in so many years.
Do people still play those Resident Evil maps? Those were fun.

>>4925523
Svens 20 year anniversary is next year
I play it occasionally but the community is pretty niche.
Needs some new interest
I havent seem any REZ maps tho, closest thing ive seen to that is they hunger

First I feel like I want to play some games.
Next I remember most new games are shit.
Finally I remember the old classics still exist, and are considered such for good reasons.
Pretty easy process, really.

>>4926908
Reminder that most old games are also shit, and that you're actually just going back for the old games which stood the test of time and held up.

>>4926996
I'm okay with this.

>>4927062
Yeah, we remember the games that mattered, just like we only play the games that matter today, in truth, most games ever are shit, and the good ones always had to be sought out.

>>4905851
At least OP is trying to get himself some taste, what's wrong with that?
I bet you go on /v/ and cry about "why dont these kids know about REEAL games?"

>>4905673
honestly, if I was your age, I'd be playing multiplayer shit but since I'm older I can't stand teens.

>>4927965
Speaking as someone a few years older than him, I really am not wired for multiplayer, mostly.
Singleplayer is my forte.

Find yourself a good chart

>>4908050
>>4916804

This has to be bait. I remember people being like this in school when they were 12. "Oh boy I'm 12, I'm a big boy now, but those 11 year olds, man those are just children.

>>4922847
> walking simulator

you didn't play the game much obviously, because one of the best ways in which it rewards progress is by allowing you to travel around the world faster and faster, using siltstriders, boats, then high athletics/acrobatics, levitation and mark and recall.

>>4928732
True, though the beginning is slow as molasses.
Fortunately, I'm good at juggling money with merchants, and can make vast fortunes in just a month of ingame time.

>>4928016
Please link me to more /vr/ charts as most of the /v/ charts lack alot of stuff. I need those turbo autist charts of real hidden gems like ball bullet gun on sfc, majajarun kun on famicom or azito 3 on ps1.

>>4928784
Using the mages guilds teleporters early is a good way getting from one place to another relatively cheap.

>>4928798
Those work, though I also tend to memorize boat and silt strider routes decently.

>>4928784
>Fortunately, I'm good at juggling money with merchants, and can make vast fortunes in just a month of ingame time.

Don't rub your hands together so much. You should cherish the early game poverty in mwind. It makes you have to think how you will spend your coin. Later when you are rich the game becomes less exciting because it's one less variable you no longer have to manage; the others being health, magicka, fatigue, encumbrance, and time (not quests but enemy and plant respawn times).

Tfw zoomer and my gateway was fighting games, shmups, and shitty indie platformers. So I didn't even have to think what retro games I wanted to play.

>>4931547
I've done the early poverty enough, going full Hlaluu and making vast riches (through what's really weird and probably immoral means), it excites me, there's no other game that lets me Jew out like this.